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Hi, I'm Sam Mullins, and I've got a new podcast coming out called goboy, the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted, has spent 24 of those years in jail. But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is Fighting Words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a bestselling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us. You know, we are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. 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The sports Emmy nominated Dan Patrick show led by the king of comedy, Fritzi Seaton. Marv Polyers. Truly in the back room. Guys. We will head to Dallas. Coming up a little bit. The Mavs are going there. It's Luca, his first game against his former team back in Dallas. I'm expecting a standing ovation. I don't think this is Jimmy Butler going back to Miami where you might applaud him in the beginning and then boo him every time he gets the ball. But. But this is different. Jimmy Butler wanted out of Miami. Luca didn't want out of Dallas. So we'll have some more coverage on this. Also, what happened in Denver where you have a bloodbath with three games to go in the regular season. You're trying to hold on to a playoff spot. Maybe you're going to end up in a play in game and you fire your coach and your GM and Michael Malone will get a job. That's not the question. The question is why is he getting another job? What exactly happened? The friction between Calvin Booth, the gm, the front office and why you do it now. Is this giving your team a spark, I wonder? Because they're gonna have to hold on just to get a playoff spot. They're gonna end up in the play in game. Got a sale going on@danpatrick.com Everything is on sale. Everything is 50% off. Great deals to be had there. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Something this monumental could only happen in Las Vegas. You can watch John Cena, Cody Rhodes and more of WWE's biggest superstars at WrestleMania live April 19th and 20th. So big that they had to do two days. And at 7 Eastern only on Peacock, which is where you'll find this show. Thank you for downloading the app. Tim McMahon from the mothership covers the NBA. He. He'll stop by. The masters part three contest is today. I got an opportunity to caddy for Peter Jacobson, former golf pro. And I put on the. The bibs. I put on the caddy outfit there at Augusta, and I'm with. Payne Stewart was in our group. Fred Couples was in our group. And I. I had a mishap where I'm trying to put the straps on with Peter Jacobson's clubs. And I had one strap on, and then I had the clubs turn over, and they all fell out right in front of everybody. At the par three contest, everybody was laughing, except for Peter Jacobson, because those are his clubs. He's going to be playing in the Masters with those clubs. And, oh, my God, I was so embarrassed. And then we got to. I forget the second to last hole. And then Peter Jacobson goes here, and he hands me a pitching wedge. I said, what do you. What do you want me to do? He goes, you guys are always, you know, you guys think this is so easy. You. You. You know, announcers, you know, go ahead. I said, I'm not gonna hit it. And then Payne Stewart, he goes, yeah, yeah, it's so easy, right? And I said, all right, how about. I'll. We get up to the green and I'll putt one of your putts? So Payne Stewart has me with a putt that is diabolical. I don't know. It's. It's 70ft away and up over a hill and down over a hill, and. And he goes, yeah, go ahead. I said, well, let me have a read on it. You know, let me use your caddy like you have. So his caddy came over and he said, you have no shot. And I said, okay, but let's act like this. So there's a whole crowd there. And, of course, I didn't get it close, but, you know, that feeling of you're. You're out there, and it's just the par three. So I've spilled clubs, I've got a putter in my hand. And then you're like, I'm not ready for this. Even for a celebrity event. That's another thing. When you play in those celebrity golf events, people think you're actually good. When I would play at pebble beach, they. They'd be, like, right next to you and you're hitting shots. I'd be like, man, I. I could hit you. And they go, oh. I go, no, I could actually hit you with the club, with the ball. But Masters is something spectacular. Never tired when you're there. You know, when. When you see it, it's as if you've seen it for the first time each time you go there. 8 7, 73 DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle At DP show we will play in or out coming up. And here is Luca. Luca got ejected from last night's game against Oklahoma city. He has 5073 technicals in the last five years, most in the NBA. And he talked about the ejection last night. You can see it. That happened. But you know, I never got a fan of Jackson, never. But if he's going to talk, I'm going to talk back like always. So that had nothing to do with the ref. So I didn't really understand. Okay, so he got one technical for talking to the official. The other one, he was talking to a fan. And I think the official had rabbit ears and thought that he was talking to him and then he ran him. But Luca does not get benefit of the doubt. He doesn't. And Vincent Goodwill, who covers the NBA for Yahoo Sports, brought up something interesting. He said, you know, this is a child prodigy. So he has been enabled his entire career. Growing up, he was a child prodigy and probably didn't hear no or that's, you know, don't do that. And he might have that behavior that he's just carried into the NBA because he does complain an awful lot. But thought that was interesting analysis on Luka Doncic. But you have the game coming up tonight and his over under, I think is 30 and a half points against his former team. Poll question for the final hour of the program. Then we'll play in or out. And why is Jalen Milroe going to the NFL draft? Seaton. It's funny how prodigy being called a child prodigy can either be used as a positive or a negative. Yeah, it was probably really awesome for a while, but man, that sure is a slight right there, huh? Well, I remember Mozart. You know, if you read about Mozart, that he was a prodigy, but he was very enabled and was childlike, overrated Mozart. Okay, Whose career would you rather have? Mozarts or Luka Doncic? I don't know if Mozart's getting paid as much as you think he should be with all that music. Maybe he is, but artists never get paid like that while they're alive. Music business is tough these days, gotta tell you. Yeah, yeah. Streaming, yeah. They didn't have Napster back then with Mozart. Didn't have to worry about that. Anybody sampling his stuff. I think musicians right now would kill to go back to the Napster days rather than the Spotify Era, Mozart. Career, salary game. Yeah. How much did. Well, it's like Vincent Van Gogh. Van Gogh didn't sell any of his art till he died and his brother was his agent. Turns out this is pretty good, huh? Yeah. You see what Vinnie's been working on? Yeah. Vincent and Theo. Theo Van Gogh didn't do a very good job selling his art. Yes. Todd didn't even sell his ear. He cut it off and just sent it to the girl in the mail. Thank you, Todd. Okay. League with the least job security right now. And if the NBA's got 52% of that vote, followed by the NFL, we also put up there the Denver Nuggets are nuts or doing the right thing right now, 94% of the audience have them as nuts. Denver Nuts. Nuts get. The Denver nuts get nuts. Gets. All right, Paul, time to play. In or out. Nice and simple. You say in or out. Okay. Nikola Jokic will win another title with another team. In or out? I'm out. Oh, I'm in. Tracy, Out. You think he's finishing his career there? Well, he's got three more years under contract. Yeah, then he'll be 33. I just wonder. I don't know how much he wants to play. Like, he'll have a Hall of Fame career, he'll have $300 million that he's made, and then maybe just goes back home and plays basketball. But since his game doesn't rely on explosiveness, him at 33 could be similar to now. And he could sign a three year deal for 250 million. Yeah, but I don't know if he wants to play. I got. I'm sure he enjoys it, but I. I mean, he always talks about he just wants to go back home and, you know, play with his horses. Yes, Todd, is it that hard to suck it up and play a few more years of basketball for a few hundred million dollars more? Could you be that done? I don't know. I'm just throwing this out there. I don't know. How much can you love your horses and your donkeys? Just stick around a few more years, Todd. I've got everything and I'm gonna retire. Fair enough. Okay. I've been called the Joker of. I have heard that on the street. Actually meant to tell you about that. Thank you. What else? Here we go. The warriors will be in the Western Conference finals. Fritzy, I'm out. Seon, out. Marv, out. Out. Wow. Not even the finals? Not the final. Final Western. All right. If I could pick the Masters winner, it would be Rory McElroy Dan. I'm going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm in. I'm in. Ish. Yeah, he. He completes the career grand slam. He's been through an awful lot. It felt like it was him against everybody from the live tour. He was kind of the vocal critic of live and, you know, staunch defender of PJ Tour. Yes, he did. We just do a thing with Dylan on our Masters picks. Yes. Is Rory on yours? No, I picked Scottish. It sounds like you're out, then. Well, no rooting for. You're rooting for. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I. I can root for Todd to do something good on the show, but you're gonna be waiting a while. Yes, it's true. Here we go. I would take Sunday Masters tickets over. Super bowl tickets. I'm in. Marvin, I'm up. Ritzy out. Seaton in. I'm in on Masters. That seems just so impossible. But you haven't been there. You've been to the Super Bowl, But I will tell you to be there. Now, I'd much rather watch the Masters on TV than the super bowl, but to be there in the moment, and you could actually set up shop wherever you wanted to. You could be on 16, you could be at 18, you could be at 12. Actually, 12 is the best vantage point because you, you know. Well, there's a couple places there. Don't want to give away any trade secrets there. All right, Paul, what else? Last one. If I were Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe, I would attend the first round of the NFL draft in Green Bay. Dan, you're gonna go last. Oh, okay. Todd, I would not attend. Okay. Seaton. I would go. Martha, I'm out. Paul. I mean, I would go, I'm out. But is he going there for a payday with some of the other things that you can do when you go to the draft? Is he actually going to the draft? Three NFL scouts told USA Today that they would be shocked if Jalen Milroe were picked in the first two days. First two days. So that's the first three rounds. Now, I don't know if he's going there for business or is he going to go there and he's going to be on camera. Now he's. If he's drafted high, then it might be Pittsburgh at 21. Satan. I would go. Just. It's the only time in your life you're going to get that invitation. It's never coming again. So, yeah, I would go, and I would just go with the expectation of, like, all right, if I don't go today, then who cares? I still had fun today. Don't worry about it. But then you could not go the next day. So then that's rounds one, two and three. I mean, they. The commissioner decided to do away with the. Put the camera on the draft pick who's sliding. Yeah, Paulie. According to NFL draft analyst for the Athletic Dane Brugler, Jalen Milro has accepted the invitation and will attend the draft in Green Bay. Yeah, okay. You know, things get squirrely. He certainly had some great time. You know, his Pro Day ran a 4, 3, 9 or something crazy like that. And all you have to do is look at that win against Georgia. He went 27 to 33, two touchdowns, rushed for 117 yards, two touchdowns. They beat Georgia. I mean, if you look at that tape against an NFL quality defense that Georgia normally has. Okay, could you see Pittsburgh pulling the trigger here? Yes. Paulie. What about a team that has an established quarterback who's kind of on his way out like the LA Rams with Matthew Stafford, he probably has two more years and then it's over. And Jalen Milro could sit there for a year or two and then step right in. That seems like he seems like a project player. Oh, yeah. But then you might look at him and go, if you're the Colts, yeah, that's like Anthony Richardson like. And look what happened there. Ton of potential. Freakishly athletic. But do you want to risk a first round draft pick there? Because Jackson Dart, Shador Sanders, Cam Ward and you know, once again you're. You're starting to get a little more. I checked in with my source with the Cleveland Browns, man, he's not budging. They are, they have to be under they, you know, a cone of silence there because I said, got any indications here? And I was told that 2 through 9 will take the best player available in his opinion. So teams two through nine are taking the best player available. You know, therefore there's not a strategy as much as who is that guy? Okay, Travis Hunter? Is there Abdul Carter? Okay, do we take one of those guys? Okay, we'll take that guy. The Giants are then next. Do they take Abdul Carter? Do they take Travis Hunter? That's sort of the feeling that I got from a source of mine, but I don't know if Cleveland is out of the quarterback. I still think, and I'll go back to what I was told a long time ago, before anybody else I think was talking about this, that Kirk Cousins, after the draft, the Falcons will accommodate him and let him be Traded to Cleveland. I don't know what that means with salary. I don't know any of that stuff. But I'll stay with it because I was told that. That Kirk wants out and the question is reworking his deal. And what's Cleveland have to get? You know, compensation here. But maybe that's a fifth round draft pick. Yes. Marv, is it just me or is this draft really lacking real star power? And that's what makes Jalen Milro such a, you know, hot commodity as far as attending the draft. Well, when somebody says boy interior lineman, you know, there's a run on interior lineman and doesn't exactly, you know, get your pom poms out. You need to have, you know, that's why Shador Sanders has been talked about so much because he's the one name player and then the other name players, his teammate, Travis Hunter. But Abdul Carter to me, could be a Hall of Famer, you know, but we want to talk about the people that people are curious about because I could tell you, you know, there's a interior defensive lineman who's going to be a Hall of Famer in this draft and you go, okay, there's no wide receivers really in this draft. Yes, Mark. Well, I think because the NFL is a copycat league, you gotta look, interior linemen have won Super Bowls and they've been a big part of it. So I think that kind of gauges people's interest. I don't think they're interested at all. They should be because that's how you build your team. Well, if you say, hey, this is the next Chris Jones, is the next Aaron Donald, they don't care. The average fan is like, I need to know where Ashton Genti's going. You know, Shador Sanders, Travis Hunter, that. That's what they want to know. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's really disappointing if you're a real fan. I know, but we've seen this before. We need a BJ Raji. BJ Raji. He helped win a Super bowl for the Packers. He cut job. I know. Wow. I'm all in on the interior lineman. This. I know that. That's what you need to win. That's why the Eagles won. They had the best offense. They had the best combination of offensive and def. Why are we yelling at each other? Because we're an Emmy nominated show. Good sports radio. Converse. All right, let me take a break. What kind of reception does Luca get tonight? What the hell happened in Denver? 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And look, this is a heartbroken fan base to this day. Certainly a lot of anger, outrage in the wake of the trade that is starting to kind of turn into apathy. There will be nothing apathetic about the reception that Luca received tonight. This is going to be a fan base that felt betrayed by this trade that is celebrating six and a half years of spectacular brilliance and mourning that it wasn't much, much, much longer than that. And then, you know, the Mavericks as a, as an organization, they're in this awkward spot, right? They dumped this dude. He didn't want out. He was closing on a house, his American forever home in Dallas. Lost his earnest money. Not that he can't afford it, but, you know, this guy was locked in long term to Dallas, couldn't wait to sign the supermax contract. They dumped him in the middle of the night. They pretty much publicly shamed him on the way out. And now they've got to show some appreciation. You like these? Oh, these are. These are classy. Should. Should soothe any hard feelings. These are the shirts on the seats tonight. I don't know how to pronounce that last word. There's, you know, Versivia. I don't know, Havala. Sa to say versy. Whatever. Thanks for everything in Slovenian. Should certainly soothe any hard feelings. It will be. I don't know how you say appreciate it, pal in Slovenian. You know, there will be a tribute video play, but, like, let's just call it like we see it. This is going to be extraordinarily awkward because the only way that the Mavericks could attempt to justify trading a generational talent as he approaches his prime was to dump on him, was to cite the conditioning concerns, the culture concerns, you know, all those sort of things which mass fans didn't want to hear. You know, Luca certainly felt a certain way about it. And then, you know, Luca last night said he doesn't know how he's going to react. He's going to be emotional. He's used to being the enemy in arenas. He's used to kind of thriving off of that energy, as we saw last night. He's used to kind of going back and forth with fans on the road. He's not used to an entire arena wrapping rotary and wrapping their arms around him and, you know, kind of loving them up. And it'll be very interesting to see how he handles that. If Mark Cuban was still the majority owner, does this deal happen? Hell, no. No. 0.0% chance. Cuban tried to talk Nico Harrison out of it, but Cuban got a. I mean, a five minute heads up. There's this, you know, the equivalent of a handshake agreement on the deal by the time Cuban got a heads up on it. But no, when. When Cuban lost juice, that made this trade a remote possibility. And, and look, man, Mark Cuban, as the. Essentially as the general manager of the Mavericks for, you know, 20 some odd years, had plenty of personnel missteps going. When we go back to Steve Nash, the Porzingis trade ended up being a dud in Dallas. They completely bungled the Brunson situation. You know, I could go on and on. One thing he got right was that Luka Doncic was the guy to take the torch from Dirk. Luka Doncic was the guy to build around. And Cuban's strategy with Luca, you know, to. To just put it bluntly, was to kiss his butt and make sure he did everything possible to ensure that Luca was happy in Dallas long term. And I think that's a reasonable strategy with this level of superstar. It's. Luke is not the only superstar in the league who gets his butt kissed on a regular basis. But they went from kissing his butt for six years to stabbing him in the back in year seven, fresh off of finals appearance. There's no way that happens if Cuban's still in charge. You know, you speak about kind of enabling and kissing Lucas, but you write the book, the Wonder Boy, the Curse of Greatness. We had Vincent goodwill from Yahoo Sports on last hour, and he said, because I was asking him about this behavior that Luca has, that he has 73 technicals in the last five years, most of anybody in the NBA. And Vincent said, you know, he's been enabled his entire life, probably hasn't been told no and is used to getting his way. You were around him writing this book. Can you see any kind of relationship between how he's brought up and how he acts on the court? Well, I mean, listen, a lot of superstars around the NBA are enabled and Lucas flaws are as obvious as his talent. There's two main flaws, the conditioning concerns, which honestly is as much about diet as it is conditioning. You know, does the guy enjoy a post game brewski or two ski? Yes. You know, his, his post game routine and sometimes the summer routine are way too similar to mine, which you can get away with as a sports writer, you know, and. But you know what, what's crazy I say, I was about to say you can't get away with it as an NBA superstar, but he, he's a five time first team all NBA selection who hasn't hit his prime. You know, he's been to the finals, he's took another completely different supporting cast to the conference finals. And that's part of it is like you could tell him, hey, look, you got to change your approach, got to lay off the refs, you know, like the petulance is not helping you. But it's hard to say, dude, you've got to really change your ways. When this dude was a legitimate MVP candidate before he could legally buy one of those beers in America. I mean, at the age of 20, he was putting up historically dominant numbers. His rookie year he arrived and it was like he was an instant star and the ascension was quick. And it's hard to say, hey, what you're doing is not working when, yeah, it was. I mean, was it perfect? You know, could. Could he have been better? You could argue that, but it's hard to say. His way didn't work when his accomplishments at the age of now 26 stack up with the very best who have ever played in the league. Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA reporter covering Lucas return to Dallas, the Lakers and the Mavs. 7:30 Eastern on the mothership. Mike Breen, Doris Burke, Richard Jefferson will have the called in Tim's book the Wonder Boy Luca and the Curse of Greatness, now available online wherever books are sold. We were shocked with Luca. We were shocked with what happened in Denver. Both are hard to explain. But with Denver at the end of the season, tell me what the logic is to do this right now to fire your coach and gm. Yeah. And let's just be straight. You were shocked Luke was traded, period. Yeah. You're shocked that Malone was fired now. Yes, with a few games left in the regular season, like everybody, like it was not a secret that there had been more than a cold war, like just, you know, pretty much warfare between Michael Malone and Calvin Booth. And the anticipation was, it's going to be one or the other this summer. Well, Josh Kroenke, you know, the face of the Nuggets ownership group, basically said, no, it's going to be both of them now. And what I was told is his explanation internally, you know, as he's meeting with people in the Nuggets organization was, hey, this was an unsustainable situation. It felt like, you know, the. The plane was. Was crashing and the co pilots were so busy bickering at each other and making it about themselves, talking about Michael Malone and Calvin Booth, that he just needed to, you know, get them both out of the equation. Now just looking at, from my perspective with Michael Malone, he's the most successful coach in Nuggets history, wins record, both regular season, playoffs, a title. Two years ago, I would have thought that would have earned him the right to have one last crack at a playoff run to try to save his job. But Josh Kroenke decided, no, we need to get these guys out of the mix right now. And in his mind, that's the only way they're going to have a chance to salvage this season and put together a playoff run. Do you think Luca ends his career in Denver? Luca in Denver? I mean, Joker. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to shock you. Listen, I've been shocked by Luca transactions before. Joker. Do you think Joker ends his career in Denver? You know, so one thing I always try to be careful about is putting words in somebody's mouth or speaking on something that I haven't spoken directly to a person about. So with that clarification, what I would say is everything about Joker is indicated that he's kind of cut from that dirt cloth. You know, that, that extreme loyalty, you know, like Dirk, he does have a championship. So it's not like he maybe will have to chase a ring somewhere else down the stretch of his career. So my guess would be that, yes, he is a Denver Nugget from start to finish of his career. But I mean, if that situation melts down in Denver and he looks around and it's, you know, and he's playing on a mediocre team, I don't know. And you know what? Maybe. Maybe he just says, to hell with it. I'm gonna go ride some. Ride my horses in Serbia. I'LL give you OKC or the field in the West. I still take Oklahoma City. And look, man, the Thunder are going to set the NBA record for the best point differential in a season that's not nothing. Have they done it? Have they made a deep playoff run? Obviously not. But this is a team that gave the Mavericks a hell of a series last year. The cumulative score in that series was even, by the way. Dead even. So gave the Mavericks the best fight in the Western Conference and then got significantly better. Bringing in Isaiah Hartenstein, bringing in Alex Caruso. Two veteran role players, Caruso with championship experience that fit perfectly. And then internally, all their young guys got better, including the guy who's probably going to be the MVP of the league this year, Shay Gilder's Alexander, who, by the way, was spectacular in. In the playoffs last year. Yeah, this dude is significantly better than he was last year as the, as the MVP runner up. Jalen Williams, first all Star appearance. You know, learn from a disappointing playoff run. So, yes, I would take OKC against the field in the Western Conference. Having said that, literally from the 18 series on, they're going to be facing quality competition. They're going to be in a fight every single playoff series. And that loss by Minnesota last night was mindboggling and costly. How do you. I, I know they're a dangerous team, but they're dangerous to themselves as well, Tim. No doubt. I don't understand that you blow a lead that big. Well, and the Timberwolves biggest flaw by a country mile is they stink at closing games. They're a good comeback team, but protecting a lead, they're awful. And you know, I, I think a big part of that is you have a young ascending star in Anthony Edwards who is very much still learning on the job. A brilliant talent, a. A guy who you love to have as the foundation piece of your franchise, but 23 years old and, and you know, he's not. He's not like a Luca or a LeBron or a Joker in the sense of like, just has this unbelievable natural feel. You know, those guys are like Jimi Hendrix. They pick up a guitar and they just feel it. They just know how to play it. Where Anthony Edwards is learning how to read sheet music. And sometimes, like, I don't want to see that crap. And, and you know, he. His tendency is to lean into hero ball down the stretch games, and a lot of times that blows up in his face, in the Timberwolves face. And that's why there might be a 7 seed or an 8 seed instead of a 2 or a 3. Good to talk to you. Always. Great. Good luck with the book. Thanks for joining us, Tim. Appreciate you having me. That's Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA reporter. Also, he has a podcast on the Hoop Collective and his new book, the Wonder Boy. It's Luca and the Curse of Greatness. You start to look at these coaches who have won championships since 2015. There's two head coaches still with their respective teams. You have Steve Kerr with Golden State, and you have Joe Missoula with the Boston Celtics, Michael Malone, and Mike Budenholzer, who was with the Bucks. He was let go in 2023. Frank Vogel, he won a championship with the Lakers. He was let go in 2022. Nick Nurse, four years after guiding Toronto to a title, he was let go. Ty Liu brought a title to Cleveland three straight NBA Finals. He was fired six games into the 2018-2019 season. There's not a lot of patience going on in sports now when it comes to your coach or your manager, because the average stay in all of these sports is around three years. I mean, imagine in your job, if you go, man, I be here maybe three years. Like, we lock in for jobs for a long time. At least you think you are, but these guys, they're in it, and you're like, I don't know. I won a title a couple of years ago, but my job's in jeopardy. Alex in Utah. Hi, Alex. What's on your mind today? Hey, morning, guys. I'm just calling to. Just to congratulate you. I mean, just looking at the list of the other nominees, it's just so cool to see, what is it, a team of 13 that are able to compete against, like, these huge networks. And what, what it is, for me, I think, that sets you guys apart is that you guys tell the story of sports. I think in a way that other shows, other shows don't. I feel like I'm a relatively new fan to sports. And so for you guys to be able to break down not just like, eras and players and teams, but to break down, like, the stories of, like, why this team was monumental or why this player is so monumental is really helpful for someone somewhat of a novice for sports. And so I just don't think anyone does it like you guys. So thanks for the laughs, thanks for the stories, and thanks for the great sports radio conversation. Thank you, Alex. I treat you, the audience, the way I want to be treated. That's really what it is. You know, treat me with respect. You know, don't have silly takes to have silly takes, get people on that are interesting, have a sense of humor, the teamwork that we have, and it is teamwork every single day that's important. And you know, we've been very lucky. It's not by accident that this happens. We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow and this day in sports history. Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. What's up everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found except for a cassette tape lodged in the player on that tape were 10 vile. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Grotesque. Oh my God. Oh my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public until now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Mag Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin. The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail. I'm sitting down with legendary singers, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my life. We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stephane Bonsell, CEO of Moderna. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative, the spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published and he was unlike any first time author Canada had ever seen. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted, has spent 24 of those years in jail, 12 years in solitary. He went from an ex con to a literary darling almost overnight. He was instantly a celebrity, he was an adrenaline junkie and he was the star of the show. Go Boy is the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. I had a knife go in my stomach, puncture my spleen, break my rib. I had my guts all in my hands only to find himself back where he started. Roger's saying is, I've never hurt anybody but myself. And I said, oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong on that one. Rod from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Harry Houdini. Harry Houdini could make elephants disappear, walk through walls and escape the Chinese water torture cell. But he was also on a mission against mediums. I have never seen one genuine medium. Join me, Tim Harford, for a cautionary tales trilogy on the world's most famous magician. It takes a flim flammer to catch a flim flammer. Houdini wanted the world to see reason in an age of spiritualism. He went undercover to seances, exposed fakes and charlatans, and even tried to convince Washington lawmakers to ban mediums for good, a campaign that cost him friends and made him many enemies. They're going to kill me. Listen to cautionary tales on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Last call for phone calls. What we learn. What's in store tomorrow. Dwight Howard, former Laker, Orlando Magic, going into the hall of Fame. He'll join us on the program tomorrow. This day in sports history. Final results of the poll question. We got a few things to get to Dustin in Alabama. Hey, Dustin, what's on your mind? Yes, thank you. I'm so proud of us for the Emmy nomination. When you get Allison real quick. While I'd love To talk about my Todd and Jalen Melro or Mel Kuipers, my draft and Shador going to my Saints. Today is April 9, 2025, my youngest son, Baylor Grant's 12th birthday. And 11 years ago on what would be his very first birthday, I had the once in a lifetime opportunity by a friend. I got invited, all expense paid trip to go to the Masters of which I declined. In my son's very first birthday. However, life has irony all in it. That year Bubba Watson won. My son has grown up and played golf. Speaking of child prodigies, this very past year, Bubba Watson is very involved with the youth activities we do down here with golf. My son, my two sons played him and a bunch of other teams in a putt putt golf tournament. And it came down to my two kids, Bubba Watson, his teammate, of which they lost in a playoff. However, hopefully in 10 to 15 years, we see my son Baylor and Jim Nance telling a good backstory at the Masters. So just wanted to use my time to tell my son, thank you, Dustin. Thank you, Dustin. Although if you had to do it again, your son's first birthday or all expense paid trip to Augusta, what would you have done? Oh, I didn't know I was still in there. Yeah, I would have gone to the mat. Okay. All right. That's all I wanted. Here. That's it. Thank you, Dustin. Thank you, Dustin. Drive safely. By the way, this day in sports history. Paul, that's a good one. Good topic there. The Brooklyn Dodgers opened ebbets Field in 1913. In 1945, this is a good one. The NFL officials decreed that it was mandatory that players wear this in all league games going forward. What is this? Fill in the blank. 1945, officials said all players must wear what in games? Face masks, socks. Players were not wearing socks. Ah, come on. This game is getting soft. Yeah. Sticklers. Yeah. 1965, the Houston Astrodome hosted its first ever baseball game. And you know what happened in that game? No. I think baseball's first indoor home run was hit, I think by Mickey Mantle. I think the first indoor home run not inside the park but inside the dome was hit by Mickey Mantle. I believe on this date, 1981, Fernando made his Dodger debut, beat the Astros, he won rookie of the Year and Cy Young. It's hard to kind of explain that to a whole different generation. What Fernando Mania was. I remember there were stories on the nightly news. Not nightly news, sportscast. This was nightly news, non sports. And it was about Fernando Mania. Yeah. Paulie, to confirm you're Right. Mickey Mantle hit the first home run in the Houston Astrodome. It was sold just last year for $12,000, that baseball. Oh, I thought you meant the Dome. That's a good deal. Well, they brought the Dome down, so you could have bought it, I guess. Big pile. Yeah. Pile of dome cinder blocks or whatever it is. I think that's it for this day. And, oh, this is one of my favorite days. This is 1978. David Thompson and George Gervin are battling for the scoring title. David scores 73, but I was with San Antonio. He scores 63 and he wins the scoring title. 27.22 points per game to 27.15. No three pointers back then. Yes. Yes, Marvin. Neither of those games were televised either. Nope. But Ice knew what David had done, and he played later. And then he knew he had to get 60. Whatever, 63 points to win the scoring title. That happened with David Robinson as well. I think he won a scoring, Todd. He had. He had 71. Yes. Marvin, what is that feeling like? Because you would know better than I. What's that feeling like? You know what? I'm gonna go off tonight and score 30. In the half or in a game? Just in the game. Oh, okay. I didn't know if you meant like in a half. Well, when you get the green light. Nothing better, you know, Just give me the green light. That's all I want. Inside joke. I don't know if that was. I don't know if John Legend was talking about the green light the way I just wanted to shoot. Yeah. Well, shot. Yes. Yes. Todd, when did you realize it wasn't your night? Or do you always have to try to shoot your way out of it and then find your. I always thought it was my night. Yeah. On the court, off the court. It was never my night. I was shooting off the court, too, but I wasn't making anything. But. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta keep going. Your team needs you to get some shots up there. That's what I kept thinking. All right, final results of the poll question. Seaton. We got up there right now, the Denver Nuggets are. Right now 94% of our audience say they are nuts. Okay. All right. A lot of fun. And then league with the least job security. Right now, the NBA has got about 51% of that vote. Todd, what'd you learn today? I think they're the Denver Nuts. Gets based on the poll. Seaton, what'd you learn? I'm rooting for Scott Van Pelt this year. Let's go. Buddy Marvin you don't want a lifetime achievement award? No Paul SVP 0 for 8 Todd what did I learn? 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