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Dan Patrick
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Fred Armisen
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Carrie Brownstein
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Dan Patrick
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Dylan
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Ari Chambers
What's up fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.
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Paulie
All?
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It's your girl, Sam J.
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Ari Chambers
And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I heart women's sports.
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We're breaking down the biggest headlines.
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Ari Chambers
Naomi Osaka showing out shout outs to you Naomi. The viral moments.
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Sam J
I've been obsessed with Chrisean Rock's boxing journey.
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Dan Patrick
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Ari Chambers
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Dan Patrick
Final hour on this Wednesday, a pizza Wednesday. Morale is getting a little higher. Dylan is doing the honors here with Billy Tips. He is his sous chef out there with the rec tech grills. The pizza menu today is we have
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Todd
a Cajun gumbo pizza perchance, a Dan Patrick show original hot honey pepperoni and bacon pizza. And then Todd's iconic classic cheese pizza.
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Dan Patrick
All right, who has it better than we do?
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Dylan
Nobody.
[03:00]
Dan Patrick
You got a big project coming up. Chat GPT is a new agent for larger projects. Chat GPT work give it a goal. Help turn scattered materials into finished work. It started at chat GPT.com selecting work mode available on plus and pro plans. You got the WNBA on NBC and Peacock Sunday, Paige Beckers against Olivia Miles. I love that matchup. WNBA live on NBC and Peacock. You can also see this program on Peacock. Download the app if you haven't done so. We will talk to the former bookmaker and the guy who took all those bets from Cho he Otani's interpreter Matt Boyer here. He will join us coming up momentarily. Terry Scubal. He pitched. Okay, bigger picture. Dodgers lost again. He made his debut at Wrigley. Thursday night hall of Fame game. Carson Beck versus Kenny Pickett. The Falcons have lost Jalen Walker. He's got a torn acl. The Ravens lock up Zay Flowers. He got paid. The Bears locked up offensive tackle Darnell Wright. So those are some of your headlines, by the way, because of the nature of the payment, the live tour still owes John Rom about $150 million. Good luck getting that now. He's earned almost $100 million in live earnings already. But they could file bankruptcy and full liquidation and then John Rom would probably not get paid $150 million that he's owed. A lot of these guys who first went to live, they got most of that money up front. John Rom had it on the back end, but it looks like he might get the 100 million that he's earned, but not the 150 that he's owed.
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Dylan
How.
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Dan Patrick
How can you declare bankruptcy with a, you know, the Saudi fund, they've got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. That's the curious part of this, that you're going to say that this portion is bankrupt here. Okay. And I don't know how John Rom fights this. Maybe it's just that you're declaring bankruptcy. Chapter seven bankruptcy as opposed to chapter 11. I think chapter 11 is restructuring. Chapter seven for bankruptcy is full liquidation, if I know my bankruptcy laws here. But I don't know if bankruptcy would help them. Maybe they renegotiate what they owe John Rom. I don't know. But does this go to a higher court like for $150 million? I don't know. The other golfers who were involved in this on who would be on the back end as far as their payments. I think Bryson DeChambeau was that there was talks of, you know, 500 million dollar extension. Obviously that's not happening, but yeah, just interesting stuff. You know, it feels like the Live Tour was on life support and then all of a sudden, oh, there's going to be an influx of money. They're going to try to keep this going. Everything I've heard since January is it was going to die a slow death. And that's exactly what's happened. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paulie
Yeah. According to Golf Monthly, the Live Tour is still actively participating in events the bedminster this week and the new CEO Scott Neal is still in talks with investors about having some type of season next year.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, well, good luck with that, Matt Boyer. No, I, I mean I, I still don't know how they thought this was going to be something that people were going to watch and it was all of a sudden going to. Now, has the PGA Tour benefited? Absolutely. Have they adopted some of the things that Live was presenting? Absolutely. But you're, you're, you're trying to do this around the world and people just weren't interested. Yeah. Dylan?
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Todd
Yes, I'm seeing actually like just today it says that they've secured funding from an unnamed investor that will keep the circuit alive. But it seems like that would basically just cover what's owed to golfers right now. So it's like putting a band aid on a musket ball. There's still the larger issue of like maintaining and running the league.
[07:34]
Dan Patrick
8773 DP Shell get to your phone calls. He is the two time Amazon best selling author speak speaker. He was the bookmaker at the center of the Shohei Otani Ippei Mizuhara sports betting scandal. Matt Boyer was sentenced to one year and a day pleading guilty for money laundering, falsified tax returns, illegal bookmaking. I talked to him after yesterday's show and I started out by asking him, when is the first time you took a bet from Shohei Ohtani's interpreter?
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Matt Boyer
I believe it's 2021. That the end of the. Yeah, the End of the season of 2021.
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Dan Patrick
How were you introduced?
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Matt Boyer
I actually met him at a poker game after I was introduced to him by going to a private poker game with some of the Angels players and coaches and friends at a local Hilton in San Diego.
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Dan Patrick
When did you realize that he worked for Shohei?
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Matt Boyer
I mean, I knew right away, of course. I mean, who didn't, right? He was such a popular character, probably the most important, most popular interpreter in the world. Thanks to Shohei, of course.
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Dan Patrick
What's your role as a bookie? Of keeping somebody betting. But also, is there a sympathetic side to being a bookie when you realize somebody is in a lot of trouble?
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Matt Boyer
Yeah, that's a fine line. As a legal bookmaker, you're giving out credit and it's a. It's a tough way of trying to make a living, but also not being greedy and egotistical and then trying to maintain giving someone a relationship to where you're not hurting their family or their situation with their bills or. It's a very fine line. The more you get to know the person and more you understand them and what they do for a living, then the more you can help them if they are having a gambling problem, which, you know, I personally had one as well, so I understand that dynamic better than anyone. But you're right, it's a. It's a hard line to figure out. And sometimes they're. Oftentimes they're lying to you because they're gambling with you, and they. They want to give you the impression that it's not affecting them, you know, at home or financially, because they want to continue to bet with you or get credit or ask you for more credit. So those are the situations that come up. They're hard to, I'm going to say, run and figure out. Because when you are dealing with these people, you know, at least in my case, you have a heart. I mean, the last thing you want to see is someone just losing more money than they can afford.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but at what point are you allowed, or do you ask? That's a lot of money you're betting. Does Shohei know you're betting this?
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Matt Boyer
Truth be told, when Epay came to me, it was a tiny account. It was $1,008,000 credit line. So I, you know, initially I thought it was no big deal. And then that escalated very rapidly to the point of about 30 days later, we were at a half a million to a million dollar credit line. And then I knew at that point it had to be either Shohei or him together, or maybe he had some funds I didn't know about. You really don't know everyone's personal private lifestyle. Maybe he was a large investor in something. But then when it started getting to the point of millions and millions, then I knew that either Shohei was involved or they were partners. I wasn't really sure. And I didn't ask a lot of questions because anonymity in my business when I was running a bookmaking operation was key. I had a lot of clients and celebrities and athletes, CEOs that were very private. And that's why they liked working with me, because of that privacy. But at the same time, I was being paid $500,000 every two weeks. So the greedy side of me of running a business and making a lot of money was just like, you know what? Everything's running smoothly. He's not even making any signs of, you know, panicking or even really, he's laughing and making fun of himself quite often. If you look at the text messages that the government, you know, threw out, which is there was quite a few of them, you could see us joking back and forth about both of us being degenerates and losing money through bookmakers slash casinos, etc.
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Dan Patrick
So you didn't know that Sh. Otani knew? Not for a fact, right?
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Dylan
Yeah.
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Matt Boyer
I mean, I didn't have a relationship with Shohei at that time. He spoke very little English. And I've been around the team and some players. I used to play golf with some of the players and gamble with them. And quite a few of the Angels players were betting through my organization. But my relationship was with dp. I never spoke about anything outside of that to even the players. Even like, for example, some of the players were betting with me. I wouldn't discuss their business with the other players. That being said, I don't think a lot of these guys knew. I'm saying. I'm talking about the Angels players knew the extent of what was going on because Ippei was very private, didn't have a lot to say. You know, very, very wanted things to be low key. I realize now why. At the time, I thought. Personally, I thought Shohei was betting with him. Because the amount of bets that they were making and clearly the amount of money that was being wired. I just figured he had to have known. Especially with that long period of time, you're seeing $500,000 wires come up at the count every two weeks for basically a year and a half. I just. Even to this day, I still don't understand how Shohei didn't, wasn't aware. I do believe wholeheartedly that he never gambled. I don't think he was placing any of the bets or involved in that part at all.
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Dan Patrick
He's Matt Boyer, two time Amazon best selling author and at the center of the Shohei Otani if a Mizuhara sports betting scandal. How many athletes, give us a sense are betting this way that you dealt with that? We're betting through a booking.
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Matt Boyer
I estimate at least 50, 60%. It's probably even higher because the reality is everyone's using third party people and beards and people to bet through. You know, let's be real competitive. Athletes are very competitive on and everything they do and sports is. If you're a sports fan, as you and I both are, we watch all sports and whether you gamble or not, you generally like to have some sort of play in the game. Whether it's fantasy betting, a friend, you know, you go, I don't know about you. Do you even golf, Dan?
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Dan Patrick
I golf. I, I'm a, a guy who gambled a long, long, long time ago and cold turkey. Yeah.
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Matt Boyer
Do you. So you don't gamble on the golf course? Five bucks, ten bucks, nothing.
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Paulie
Okay.
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Matt Boyer
That's rare, right? I mean if you, if you go to a golf course, you'll see that most people that golf, whether they gamble a lot or little, it's usually A$5, 20, whatever. Most people gamble on almost everything they do. When it comes to that, I think athletes are even higher because the fact they're so competitive and they like to win at all cost.
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Dan Patrick
But these are current athletes, Matt. These are current athletes who are still betting.
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Matt Boyer
Definitely. Yeah, no doubt.
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Dan Patrick
How many bookies are there left in America?
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Matt Boyer
Millions. I mean they're everywhere. Literally throughout the country. There's at least a million bookmakers. Now, some of them might only have 10 or 20 clients, you know, very small. There's a lot of small operations that are just local bookmakers at golf courses or whatnot. But there's millions.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I just didn't know if it was a shrinking because you have all these other gambling sites where you can go and do it above board. But a lot of guys love that, you know, they're not paying taxes, that, you know, you can do it in a clandestine way. So what's next for you?
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Matt Boyer
You know, I'm excited about this journey I'm rebuilding, as you know, you just said. I have two books that I produced. One of them I just did right when I got out of prison and public speaking and Giving back to people that, you know, maybe hopefully NFL teams, NBA teams, college athletes. I'd like to go to these schools and universities and give a public speaking event to where I can help these kids avoid going down the wrong path. I have the best experience because I've been on both sides. Not always a gambler, but as a bookmaker and dealing with athletes. And I understand that it's easy to fall into that trap of, you know, not only betting yourself, but maybe trying to sway a game, you know, fixing a game to make a few extra dollars, especially these college athletes. And now you're seeing it with all these pros that are, you know, Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups and guys that you would never anticipate getting into trouble because they're wealthy and, you know, they're NBA athletes. But it's sad that it's happening. If I could persuade a kid from doing that or a professional athlete, then by giving a public speaking event, then I feel like I'm doing something great. So I plan on doing that and just building my personal brand.
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Dan Patrick
Did you take any action? Were there any suspicious bets where you thought somebody might be fixing a game?
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Matt Boyer
You know, just in the ufc, there was a particular fight that I saw a lot of people coming in, betting on, and there was a fight that was rigged and they got caught and they obviously got barred from the UFC tennis matches. I saw quite a bit lower level, you know, like the 2, 300 top 300 players in the nation, not these high level ones that I'm aware of, you know, top 20, top 100. So those are usually the guys who are really not making a ton of money that are, you know, trying to find other edges to make an earning on the side, sadly, the wrong way.
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Dan Patrick
If I task you to fix a sporting event, which one are you fixing?
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Matt Boyer
Tennis is the easiest by far. Not even close. I mean, because you can make it so unobvious by, you know, just playing a particular set or a game. For example, you know, tennis works. You got to win. And men's usually three out of five. I mean, you could just throw set one, come back and win the next, you know, three. And if you throw set one and you're a favorite, especially then the underdog is. The value is very big on that.
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Dan Patrick
Sounds like that's happened many times.
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Matt Boyer
I mean, if you think about it in tennis, tennis wise, you still win. So the guy who threw set one can still win the match and still get paid and still keep his status and nobody really gets harmed in that sense. In his mind, of course, there's somebody getting harmed who's gambling on the sport and has basically is betting a bet that they're going to lose and they don't even know it. And the integrity of the sport, more importantly, is the problem. And that's what I hate to see more than anything. I knew in 2018, when gambling became legal, this was going to happen, and I've been saying it even before I went to prison, that it's only going to get worse. And really what you're going to see, the sad part is these young kids, I have five children and three of them are young adults who have their, you know, boyfriends or kids come over and I hear it all day long. They're all gambling and they're young.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Sean
And.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, I agree.
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Dylan
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
That's a sweet spot of 18 to 24. Matt. I keep saying I've been down that road and thank God I wise enough to quit gambling because I. I see where we're headed with this. Are you worried about your safety at all through all of this?
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Matt Boyer
No, definitely not. I mean, don't get me wrong, anything can happen, especially this crazy world we're living in. But, you know, I've been. I made my peace with everybody. I've done everything I can to make it right. And, you know, I'm not an angel. I've done some things in my life that I'm not so proud of, but I've done more than I am proud of. So I don't. I don't really have any enemies per se, that are looking for me.
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Marvin
So.
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Dylan
No.
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Dan Patrick
Thanks for joining us, Matt. Good luck with the journey.
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Matt Boyer
Thanks for having me, Dan. I really appreciate it. It's been an honor.
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Dan Patrick
That's Matt Boyer. We did the interview yesterday after the show. Look, I don't want to glamorize anything with this person. I know he's got an agenda. I know that he. He's got to make money. You owe the government $10 million from what I'm told probably wants to look at doing a movie deal on. On this. So there's a lot involved. You know, the tennis aspect of fixing a tennis match. And we've had examples of this. It's happened recently. The number of players, athletes who do bet through bookies. Now, There was no DraftKings or FanDuel when I was growing up. I bet through a bookie. If I was growing up now, I'd be all over that app. I wouldn't be going through a bookie. But a lot of people don't want people to know what they're doing. They don't want you to be able to follow their activity, that they want to be able to do something clean. It's with somebody. You don't know how much I'm making or how much I lost. So there's less of a paper trail. I understand that it's going to continue. That's why I wanted to know how many bookies. I was told there's probably 10 real bookies left in America, like prominent bookies now. You have guys who will take, you know, some action. But as far as true bookies, a source told me probably 10 major players in America. All right, we'll take a break, get the phone calls coming up. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Ari Chambers
What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.
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Sam J
Hey, what's up, y'?
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Sean
All?
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Sam J
It's your girl, Sam J.
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Ari Chambers
And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I heart Women's Sports because let's
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Ari Chambers
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Sam J
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Ari Chambers
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Sam J
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Ari Chambers
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Dan Patrick
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We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia. AO rewatch our brand new podcast.
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Carrie Brownstein
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Dylan
Well, I thought he was gonna write. I thought you were all gonna write a song.
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Dan Patrick
to play social casino void. Where prohibited, visit spinquest.com for more details. Full disclosure I did have some trepidation about having the bookmaker for Shohei Ohtani's interpreter on because, and I've talked about this and I, I speak from firsthand experience. If I was 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and I had a chance to bet whenever I wanted to bet and I could do that on an app. And yes, I know I DraftKings is a sponsor, but if you do it and you do it and you do it wisely, you can have fun, it can be entertainment for you. But the problem I see is knowing firsthand and I was actually good at it. I walked away with a profit. But I, I needed a devastating loss to walk away. And that's what happened. I lost 3, $300 on a bowl game and my bookie actually talked me out of the winning side. And I'm thankful that he did because if I won that I might be still betting. And I just know you, you don't own that money, you rent that money. So having him on, I wanted to kind of understand, you know, what is that like when, you know, somebody is that damaged gambling wise and they're losing $40 million as a bookie, is there any part of you that says, man, I can't take your bets anymore? And you know, he said, yeah, a little bit. But look, he's running a business and probably think of that gravy train is going to continue. I'm still amazed though, that nobody flagged this like the bank and maybe Shohei Otani had no idea what was going on. And even, you know, the bookie, Matt Boyer said so. He doesn't believe that Shohei was involved in this. But doesn't your bank look at things like this, withdraws? Do you have a, do you have a business manager? Like you can't just have a couple million dollars gone and then a couple of million dollars and then a couple million dollars. That to me is the most amazing part of all of this, that nobody flagged this. So, and he got away with this. But you know, once I, I mentioned that I was going to have him on, I heard from three people, two, two that I know and you know, trusted sources on a lot of things. But you start to get into the different layers of gambling, the leagues and their involvement and how deep it goes and, and who they're, you know, in business with. And man, I, this is what keeps commissioners up at night. I asked Adam Silver what keeps you up at night, and he said, gambling, because that's your, your league is Based on that, that we understand that everything is on the up and up. How many times on a Monday we take phone calls, people saying the referees were out to get us, like the fix was in. And I don't believe that's the case, but I understand why people would say that your entire. Your entire infrastructure is built upon your integrity and your integrity of making sure the product you put on the field is correct. But there's so many different loopholes. There's so many weak spots here. And it's never the guy who's making, or at least not always the guy making all the money. It's somebody who wants to make all the money, somebody who wants to have a shortcut here. And that's what happens. But that's a lot of money. And he's raking in $500,000 a month. I think maybe it was a week. Yeah. Time.
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Marvin
How many times have we seen a bad beat? At least even once in a while, where you're like, is that a bad beat or is that some kind of contrived bad beat? Like, how could that have possibly happened where I lost my bed in the last second?
[29:02]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but it's not always about you. You can have a good win. Like, we always look at the bad beat. We don't look at the guy who won. You know, by the way, gambling podcast coming up at after the show. And I did this because I do talk about gambling and Dylan gambles and big day, Ray and Shay and Irving. I. I'm a voyeur. I like, I watch this now. If I thought that Dylan or Ray, who were employees of mine, had a gambling problem, then I would say so. I would say something to them. I would. I would encourage them to get help, even if it meant leaving the show. I feel that strongly about it. But we're doing it kind of tongue in cheek when we gamble on here. Or they gamble, because I do not. But I'm aware of it. I, you know, I take it seriously when I bring this topic up because I want you as a parent or even if you're in that age group that you have a credit card, you're away at school, your kids are away at school, or they have a credit card, keep an eye, because it will. You know, Brendan Sorsby had everything. All this talent, nil. Money that wasn't good enough. And it is a disease. It is. It's like alcoholism. It is a disease. And you want that action. Some of the biggest names in all the sports, Pete Rose, Michael Jordan, they needed the juice. Now Michael may still. Charles loves the juice. Pete Rose, they need it. So just. I know I get on my soapbox with it, but it, you know, if you tune out, you tune out. I just want to make sure that you understand. It can happen to you. It can happen to your son, daughter. It can. It can happen right under your nose. That's the amazing part of it. A couple of phone calls in here. By the way, sign up for the DP show calendar yearbook because you can send us your ugly picture. Awkward picture. The awkward, the better. DP Calendar2027@gmail.com. the month of December will be the audience you provide your pictures. We're going to try to include as many as possible. Sean in Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean.
[31:36]
Sean
Hey, Dan. Great in the info with Matt Boyer there, I can't win a coin cost. So thank you for all that karma cred you and the Dan at. But before I get to that, real quick, Zay flowers. Congratulations. Two times I had a chance to spend some extended time with him. Loves his fan base. Genuine, nice guy. But to you guys, best scripted show in the business. You just mentioned the yearbook photos. Thank you yesterday for putting out the call. I saw that yesterday and I wanted to send one, but I graduated 33 years ago. 32 years ago, my girlfriend at the time burn my yearbook to a crisp. Now, yesterday afternoon, my high school yearbook popped back up on Facebook for sale for five bucks. And I'm happy to say this morning I'm an owner of it. So I'll be sending one in. Thanks, guys.
[32:25]
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Sean. Yeah, thank you. We look forward to it. I didn't want to get into. Why did she burn your yearbook up? Let me just wonder how that happened. Chad in South Dakota. Hi, Chad. What do you have for me today?
[32:41]
Dylan
Morning, guys. Five, six, dents, 180. Thank you. Two quick things. One, in June was in Chicago for a work trip late at night at the Four Seasons. Bob Costas is there. He just got done with the White Sox game. I walk over to him fairly full, tell him how much of a fan I am and my brother is as well and wonder if he could take a quick video immediately off the cuff. 30 seconds of pure. Bob Costas couldn't be a nicer guy. Class act. The other thing, maybe an idea for the trail. Idea with you and your wife. The Mickelson Trail in the Black Hills of South Dakota, little over 100 miles. You can't camp on it overnight. So every night you stop in a small hills town, have a steak, hit a Brewery. Go to a casino if you want to take a shower, hit the trail again the next day. In a week, you're done. Maybe test the waters a little bit and see if you like it.
[33:37]
Dan Patrick
All right, thank you, Chad. I nearly lost my wife in the Black Hills. She went out on a bike and she was carrying the bike like she had to go in the river, carry the bike over her head. She came back, she was all cut up. It was getting dark. I've got four little ones. We're in a hotel because we're out there for a wedding. And she said, oh, I want to go take a bike trip. And I go, okay. Like eight hours later, can't get a hold of her. And she came back like she came back from war. She's all banged up. And I go, what? Where the hell have you been? She goes, oh, I got a story for you. I go, oh, my God.
[34:21]
Paulie
Yeah, Paul, I lost my wife in the Black Hill. Sounds like a Clint Black song or something like that. George Strait.
[34:30]
Dan Patrick
Fred in Maryland. Hi, Fred. What do you have for me today?
[34:34]
Dylan
Good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. 6ft, 185. Listen, regarding your topic today, I think there's some naivety involved here, Dan. The success rate on people who attempt the Appalachian trail is roughly 80, 25%. There is a 75% failure there, and that's people that have really went after it. It's, it's a challenging thing, to be sure.
[35:09]
Dan Patrick
Oh, I don't think she's naive about it. I think she's driven to do it and it's always been on her bucket list. I'm going to try to continue to discourage her, but thank you, Fred. Thank you for the statistics. I'll be using that in about a half hour from now when I see her. Yes, Marvin?
[35:26]
Marvin
Is she trying to discourage you from, like, retiring?
[35:32]
Dan Patrick
So, so I would come back because I don't want to go on the Appalachian Trail? Yeah, I, I, I don't, I didn't think of it that way. Maybe she's playing some games. So why'd you decide to come back? I don't want to do the Appalachian Trail.
[35:49]
Sean
Huh?
[35:51]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Dylan?
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Todd
Yeah. What else would you do during that 4ish month stretch other than coming back and doing the show?
[36:00]
Dan Patrick
I don't know. I don't want her to do it. But I said, how about you do portions of it? Are there nice areas that you could do a week and then I could come and get you and then you come back like a month later and do in another Portion. And we could go from Georgia to Maine, but we could do it collectively.
[36:21]
Todd
Ish.
[36:22]
Dan Patrick
That might be. Might be the route that I take. Yes, Paulie.
[36:26]
Paulie
According to this search, the easiest air quotes part of the Appalachian trail is Maryland. 41 miles. Relatively flat and unthreatening.
[36:36]
Dan Patrick
David in Denver. Hi, David. What do you have for me?
[36:39]
Dylan
I'm still thinking about the chick that burned the dude's yearbook. Man, that's going to.
[36:43]
Paulie
Wow.
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Dylan
Be. How jealous do you have to be? But yeah, dude. So like, my brother, shout out to John. He's. He's doing the Appalachian Trail in sections, so it's taken him like three years. But what he'll do is he'll do the northeast section and then he just finished the Shenandoah Valley section. So I was like, man, hey, how about you and Fritzi go on a little hike? A little. A little stroll through the Shenandoah Valley. It could be a great bromance. Could be a good bro time, you know, Then all your beef.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, Todd could. No, he can't survive. No.
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Marvin
Is it like a diner? Every few miles up the road, you could kind of pull over.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And we'll never resolve all of our beefs. It won't happen. Here is. Here's the plot. I tell Todd things that maybe would help him that he needs to work on. Todd disregards them. That's it.
[37:33]
Marvin
No, I'll say something like, you know, I should work on that. I should look into that. Then. Like, I never do. But that's always a big.
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Dan Patrick
I hate that. I hate that. Yeah, I could be better, you know, I'll be like, todd, you know, maybe don't do that. Yeah, I could be better about that. Yes. Dylan, do you think Todd could handle
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Todd
the 41 mile stretch of Maryland?
[37:52]
Dan Patrick
No.
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Marvin
How many months do I have to do it?
[37:57]
Dan Patrick
Well, if we're doing 41 miles, can you do maybe 10 a day?
[38:02]
Marvin
That's asking a lot. I was thinking more like five if we can negotiate that down a little bit. Five sixes there.
[38:07]
Dan Patrick
No, no, I. I know you can't do it, but then, you know, there's a lot of people can't.
[38:11]
Marvin
I like to walk. I just. I get the plantar fasciitis and sometimes I get cramps in the ankles.
[38:15]
Dan Patrick
See, you're. You got cramps in your ankle.
[38:23]
Marvin
The toes kind of get. Just get a little. I don't know, I get a little charley horse. But the heels. Yeah, the heels get banged up fast. Pickleball or not. It's just once I start moving, the Feet.
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Dan Patrick
Your mom did a number on you.
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Kelvin Washington
Yeah, she did.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
She did.
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Marvin
I'm going to the ear nose throat doctor right after the show because I've had a clogged ear for a month and it's still unresolved, so I gotta go get it checked.
[38:44]
Dan Patrick
How about I cut it off?
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Marvin
Like a van Gogh kind of thing?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Marvin
It's really annoying, though. For a month, this client. Every time I blow my nose, I hear, like, this weird clogging.
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Todd
What is the over under on Jewish kids from Brooklyn who have done the Appalachian trail? I'm gonna guess it's probably about 0.5.
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Dan Patrick
Paulie, could you see. Could you look that up?
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Marvin
Yeah.
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Paulie
Wish me luck.
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Dan Patrick
Jewish kids from Brooklyn, Appalachian trail. And the answer is nobody. Your mom would never let you go on the Appalachian trail.
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Marvin
I had to go get a throat culture, like, every week because I had big tonsils as soon as I met a coughing noise. You got strep throat. We got to check and see if you have strep throat.
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Dan Patrick
I still love the story, and this is emblematic of your relationship with your mom when you and your brother went to the doctor and you got a clean bill of health, but your mom insisted that you guys get penicillin shots when you were younger.
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Marvin
She went into Dr. Houtman's office, and all of a sudden, we're getting in the car, we're high fiving each other. My brother and I, I think, no shot. No shot this time. And she get. She did a little, like, you got to come back in and like, what's going on? Next thing I know, our pants are down and we're getting shots in the toughest as we'd like to say. You actually convinced the doctor. My mom has no degree of any type of medicine, and she convinced doctor. Might be a good idea just to give them a shot.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin, if Fritzi wasn't married, do you
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Marvin
think he'd still be living with his mom right now?
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Marvin
I think I get, like, an apartment next door. I don't think I'd be looking in the exact apartment.
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Dan Patrick
You would be there for every meal. She would do your laundry.
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Marvin
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
You. You would be with your mom.
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Marvin
She take her little wagon out. We go to the supermarket and, you know, down Brighton Beach. It'll be. It'll be lovely.
[40:30]
Dan Patrick
Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow. If you're watching on Peacock, which we hope you are, we're going out to the rec tech grills. It's a Pizza Wednesday, right after this.
[40:42]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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[40:54]
Dan Patrick
Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. Ah, what a day. What a day it's been this day in sports history. Have that for you. Coming up, final results of the poll questions as well. Chris in la. Hi, Chris. What do you have for me?
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Chris
Hey, Dan. I saw your interview with Dan LeBatard and I'm sorry to go off course. I graduated From Full Sail 24 years ago and I am curious what you're telling your students and prospective students with the state of the industry right now. Because I was a location scout in TV and film for 25 years and the industry is currently gone. So when parents are asking you, hey, should my kid go to Brown Broadcasting School? What are you telling them?
[41:44]
Dan Patrick
Tell them the truth.
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Dylan
Tell.
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Dan Patrick
I tell them how difficult it is. I tell them that not all of you will be on the air. In fact, most of you won't be. I tell them to diversify. I tell them to learn how to produce, how to direct, how to run a camera. Your degree is in sportscasting, and not everybody's going to be in front of a microphone. The reason, one of the reasons why I started my broadcast school was I met with the parents of a student who went to an SEC school and graduated in communications and nobody had ever checked on if he had had an internship, any kind of experience. And I thought, you know, there's no guarantees. I stay in touch with my students. When you graduate, you always have an opportunity to check in with me and the people who run the program. This isn't where once you graduate, you're done. That's what colleges do. I speak from experience. I tell them who you see going up, you might see on the way down. Not everybody's going to get to espn. You might be in Bozeman, but to call yourself a professional sportscaster, consider that an honor and don't do it for money because you're going to be disappointed. So we speak the truth, Chris. I don't know what happened with your career, but with these young students, they are getting great advice. They're getting the answers to the test. We've created something that other universities are trying to replicate, but they don't have me running the program. I review students videos every single month. You submit a video and I'll watch it and I'll critique It. But your degree is in sportscasting. And Full Sail gave us total autonomy to be able to teach this program. But thank you for the phone call. Matthew in South Carolina. Hi, Matt. What do you have for me today?
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Dylan
Hey, Dan. DP 59176 this morning. I. I'm a middle school PE teacher, middle school football coach, and heard y' all today while I was painting the field talking about yearbook photos. Well, I've done Captain Jack Sparrow, Mario, Darth Vader, the Bandit, Ricky Bobby. I'm looking for some ideas for this year. I've got a few weeks to figure it out.
[44:11]
Dan Patrick
So wait a minute. You're a teacher and you're gonna do a yearbook photo dressed up as somebody?
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Dylan
Every year.
[44:20]
Dan Patrick
Every year. All right, does anybody have advice, a suggestion from Matthew for it? This year's yearbook photo. I got crickets. Matt. I got crickets. Dylan, you should have one.
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Todd
Robocop.
[44:39]
Dan Patrick
Why would he do Robocop?
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Todd
I don't know. Just the first thing that popped into my head.
[44:43]
Dan Patrick
Well, because you have a Robocop tattoo.
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Todd
I know. I didn't even look at it, though. Yeah, it's just on the top of my head.
[44:50]
Dan Patrick
You don't want to be reminded of it.
[44:52]
Todd
No,
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Dan Patrick
but you have a. Like an oyster. You have a tattoo of an oyster? Yep.
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Todd
A fish smoking a pipe, a peach, a palm tree, a couple sharks and a dragonfly, and a really, really bad flamingo tattoo. Oh, and Reba's signature.
[45:16]
Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. You. You lost a bet in Reba McIntyre. Her signature.
[45:21]
Dylan
Yep.
[45:21]
Todd
Got that on my back.
[45:23]
Dan Patrick
Of course you did. Yeah. And Shay and Irving got one too, didn't he? He did, yeah. Yes. Marvin, Paul, and Fritzy, do you guys have tattoos?
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Paulie
No, I never got one. I just never found something that I thought I'd keep forever.
[45:40]
Marvin
A lot of scars. No tattoos.
[45:43]
Dan Patrick
Emotional scars. Emotional scars.
[45:45]
Marvin
I have those as well. Those are worse than the physical ones.
[45:48]
Dan Patrick
This day in sports history.
[45:50]
Paulie
Paul, in 2013, Bud Selig suspended Alex Rodriguez, a weird number. 211 games for PEDs that were reduced to 162. And this is a good one. We brought out trades the other day. In 1962, clubs traded managers. Detroit traded Jimmy Dykes for Cleveland's Joe Gordon.
[46:08]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, we brought that up yesterday. Let's see final results of the poll question.
[46:13]
Todd
Dylan, thoughts on Zay flowers getting a 35 million dollar a year deal with the Ravens? 65% say hate it. I think that's a little strong, but. And the food, that's the best. Even when it's bad. Pizza, burgers, tacos, or other pizza. Running away with it at 74%.
[46:31]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I would throw in hot dogs as well.
[46:33]
Todd
Oh, yeah, hot dogs.
[46:35]
Dan Patrick
2012, Usain Bolt set the Olympic record 9.63 seconds. Todd, what'd you learn today?
[46:43]
Marvin
Paulie brought this one up earlier. The last time the steals had fewer than six wins in a season. 1988. Almost 40 years. Wow.
[46:49]
Dan Patrick
Dylan, how about you?
[46:51]
Todd
You're not gonna have to hike the Appalachian Trail.
[46:54]
Dan Patrick
No, I'm not. Marvin.
[46:56]
Marvin
College football.
[46:56]
Dan Patrick
Coaches don't watch college football. They do not.
[46:59]
Sean
Paul.
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Paulie
Tennis is the easiest sport to fix.
[47:02]
Dan Patrick
Todd, what did I learn?
[47:03]
Marvin
Alabama ranked outside the coaches poll top 10 for the first time since 2008.
[47:08]
Dan Patrick
We'll talk to you tomorrow. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 3 — Matt Boyer, Gambling Epidemic

Date: August 5, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick
Notable Guest: Matt Boyer (former bookmaker at the center of the Shohei Ohtani betting scandal)

Episode Overview

The third hour centers on the escalating gambling epidemic in American sports, featuring a candid interview with Matt Boyer, the bookmaker implicated in the Shohei Ohtani interpreter scandal. Dan and his crew explore the prevalence of gambling among athletes, the mechanics and ethics of bookmaking, and the alarming spread of gambling culture among young people. The hour is marked by unusually frank admissions, behind-the-scenes details, and pointed reflections on the risks sports leagues now face due to legalized betting. Humor and personal anecdotes from the Danettes round out the conversation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Live Tour & Sports Headlines (04:58–07:34)

Live Golf Tour Financial Woes: Discussion of LIV Golf’s financial troubles and the uncertainty facing players like Jon Rahm, who may not receive $150 million still owed to him due to potential bankruptcy.
- Dan Patrick: "How can you declare bankruptcy with… the Saudi fund, they've got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. That's the curious part of this." (04:58)
LIV vs. PGA: Recognition that the PGA Tour adopted some LIV innovations but questions persist about LIV’s sustainability.

Matt Boyer Interview: Inside the Scandal

(Main Interview: 08:08–19:00, 24:51–28:52)

How the Betting Started

First Contact:
- Matt Boyer: "I believe it's 2021. The end of the season of 2021." (08:08)
- Boyer recalls meeting Ippei Mizuhara, Ohtani’s interpreter, at a private poker game with Angels players in San Diego.

Bookmaking Ethics and Dilemmas

Conflicted Role:
- Boyer: "As a legal bookmaker, you're giving out credit... but also [trying] not being greedy and egotistical... It's a very fine line." (09:00)
- He acknowledges the challenge of enabling gambling addicts while running a business.

Money Flows & Shohei Ohtani's Role

Credit Explosion:
- Initially set at $1,000–8,000, the account soon ballooned to a $500,000–$1 million credit line. (10:14)
Boyer’s Suspicion:
- Boyer: “When it started getting to the point of millions and millions, then I knew that either Shohei was involved or they were partners. I wasn't really sure. And I didn't ask a lot of questions because anonymity in my business... was key.” (10:14)
- Still, he says he believes Ohtani never gambled.
Anonymity & Celebrity Clients: Privacy was critical for Boyer's clientele, which included athletes and CEOs.

Athlete Gambling Prevalence

Shocking Statistics:
- Boyer: “I estimate at least 50, 60%. It's probably even higher because the reality is everyone's using third party people... Competitive athletes are very competitive on everything they do.” (13:21)
Current Athletes Betting: Confirms that many current athletes use bookies. (14:19–14:24)

State of Bookmaking in America

Millions of Bookies:
- Boyer: "There's at least a million bookmakers. Now, some might only have 10 or 20 clients... there's millions." (14:31)
Rise of Legal Betting, Resilience of Illegal Bookies: Despite legal betting apps, clandestine action remains common for privacy and tax reasons.

Boyer's Redemption & Public Speaking Mission

Boyer: "I'm rebuilding... I'd like to go to these schools and universities and give a public speaking event to where I can help these kids avoid going down the wrong path." (15:06)
- He wants to leverage his experience as both a gambler and bookmaker to steer athletes away from gambling’s dangers.

Fixing Games: The Weak Links in Sports

Sports Most Vulnerable to Fixing:
- Boyer: "Tennis is the easiest by far. Not even close... you could just throw set one, come back and win the next three.” (16:59)
- He’s seen suspicious betting and match fixing in UFC and lower-level tennis.
Dan Patrick: “That’s what keeps commissioners up at night... your league is based on... understanding that everything is on the up and up.” (25:45)

The Youth Gambling Epidemic

Younger Demographics at Risk:
- Boyer: “Really what you're going to see, the sad part is these young kids... they're all gambling and they're young.” (17:28)
- Dan Patrick: “That’s the amazing part of it. It can happen to you. It can happen to your son, daughter. It can happen right under your nose.” (29:02)
Dan adds from personal experience: "I needed a devastating loss to walk away. And that's what happened. I lost 3, $300 on a bowl game and my bookie actually talked me out of the winning side." (24:51)

Notable Quotes & Reflections

Boyer (on privacy): “My relationship was with Ippei. I never spoke about anything outside of that to even the players.” (11:47)
Boyer (on fixing): “The value is very big... The guy who threw set one can still win the match and still get paid and still keep his status.” (17:28)
Dan Patrick (on Boyer’s motives): “I know he's got an agenda. I know that he... probably wants to look at doing a movie deal on this.” (19:02)

On Gambling & Integrity in Sports (25:45–29:02)

Dan Patrick reflects on the long-term risks: “Your entire infrastructure is built upon your integrity and your integrity of making sure the product you put on the field is correct. But there's so many different loopholes.”
Dan: "I just want to make sure that you understand. It can happen to you. It can happen to your son, daughter. It can. It can happen right under your nose. That's the amazing part of it." (29:02)

Lighter Moments & Show Banter

Appalachian Trail Conversations (35:08–38:35): Humorous back-and-forth about hiking challenges, including Producers Todd and Marvin joking about whether they could complete even the "easiest" stretch of the Appalachian Trail.
Tattoo Roll Call (45:00–45:44): Hilarious rundown of Todd’s tattoos, including a bad flamingo, a fish smoking a pipe, and Reba McEntire's signature.

Top Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

Matt Boyer (On Bookmaking's Ethics):

“It's a hard line to figure out... At least in my case, you have a heart. The last thing you want is someone just losing more money than they can afford.” (09:00)
Matt Boyer (On Ohtani’s Possible Involvement):

“I do believe wholeheartedly that he never gambled. I don't think he was placing any of the bets or involved in that part at all.” (12:36)
Matt Boyer (On Prevalence of Athlete Gambling):

“I estimate at least 50, 60%. It's probably even higher... everyone’s using third party people...” (13:21)
Matt Boyer (On Game Fixing):

“Tennis is the easiest by far. Not even close. You could just throw set one, come back and win the next three.” (16:59)
Dan Patrick (On Risks for Leagues):

"That's what keeps commissioners up at night... your entire infrastructure is built on your integrity." (25:45)
Dan Patrick (Personal Reflection):

“If I was 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and I had a chance to bet whenever I wanted to bet... it can happen to you. It can happen to your son, daughter... right under your nose.” (29:02)

Important Timestamps

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---------|-------|-----------| | Opening headlines & LIV Golf bankruptcy | 02:27–07:34 | | Matt Boyer interview | 08:08–19:00 | | Matt Boyer on match fixing and athlete betting | 16:21–17:28 | | Dan’s post-interview reflection | 19:02–20:38, 24:51–28:52 | | Show banter/appalachian trail | 34:21–38:35 | | Tattoo roll call | 45:00–45:44 |

Conclusion

This episode delivers an uncommonly transparent discussion about the shadowy world of sports gambling, its impact on athletes, and the deepening danger among young fans—a topic the host takes personally. The Matt Boyer interview exposes both the allure and peril of unchecked betting, highlighting vulnerabilities in both individual lives and sports institutions. Dan balances serious warnings with his trademark humor and real-life anecdotes, making this a must-listen for sports fans, parents, and anyone concerned about the propagation of gambling in American culture.

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Dan Patrick
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Carrie Brownstein
and Fred Armisen here, the dream of
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Fred Armisen
the 90s is alive in podcast form.
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Carrie Brownstein
We're launching Podlandia AO Rewatch, our brand new podcast where we revisit every episode of Portlandia together, breaking down sketches, going deep on our iconic characters and pulling back the curtain on how it all got made.
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Fred Armisen
And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life, guest stars, collaborators and friends including director Jonathan Krisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.
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Carrie Brownstein
Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvised not just words, but a song.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I thought you were all going
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Dylan
to write a song.
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Carrie Brownstein
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Final hour on this Wednesday, a pizza Wednesday. Morale is getting a little higher. Dylan is doing the honors here with Billy Tips. He is his sous chef out there with the rec tech grills. The pizza menu today is we have
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Dylan
Nobody.
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You got a big project coming up. Chat GPT is a new agent for larger projects. Chat GPT work give it a goal. Help turn scattered materials into finished work. It started at chat GPT.com selecting work mode available on plus and pro plans. You got the WNBA on NBC and Peacock Sunday, Paige Beckers against Olivia Miles. I love that matchup. WNBA live on NBC and Peacock. You can also see this program on Peacock. Download the app if you haven't done so. We will talk to the former bookmaker and the guy who took all those bets from Cho he Otani's interpreter Matt Boyer here. He will join us coming up momentarily. Terry Scubal. He pitched. Okay, bigger picture. Dodgers lost again. He made his debut at Wrigley. Thursday night hall of Fame game. Carson Beck versus Kenny Pickett. The Falcons have lost Jalen Walker. He's got a torn acl. The Ravens lock up Zay Flowers. He got paid. The Bears locked up offensive tackle Darnell Wright. So those are some of your headlines, by the way, because of the nature of the payment, the live tour still owes John Rom about $150 million. Good luck getting that now. He's earned almost $100 million in live earnings already. But they could file bankruptcy and full liquidation and then John Rom would probably not get paid $150 million that he's owed. A lot of these guys who first went to live, they got most of that money up front. John Rom had it on the back end, but it looks like he might get the 100 million that he's earned, but not the 150 that he's owed.
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Dylan
How.
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Dan Patrick
How can you declare bankruptcy with a, you know, the Saudi fund, they've got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. That's the curious part of this, that you're going to say that this portion is bankrupt here. Okay. And I don't know how John Rom fights this. Maybe it's just that you're declaring bankruptcy. Chapter seven bankruptcy as opposed to chapter 11. I think chapter 11 is restructuring. Chapter seven for bankruptcy is full liquidation, if I know my bankruptcy laws here. But I don't know if bankruptcy would help them. Maybe they renegotiate what they owe John Rom. I don't know. But does this go to a higher court like for $150 million? I don't know. The other golfers who were involved in this on who would be on the back end as far as their payments. I think Bryson DeChambeau was that there was talks of, you know, 500 million dollar extension. Obviously that's not happening, but yeah, just interesting stuff. You know, it feels like the Live Tour was on life support and then all of a sudden, oh, there's going to be an influx of money. They're going to try to keep this going. Everything I've heard since January is it was going to die a slow death. And that's exactly what's happened. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paulie
Yeah. According to Golf Monthly, the Live Tour is still actively participating in events the bedminster this week and the new CEO Scott Neal is still in talks with investors about having some type of season next year.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, well, good luck with that, Matt Boyer. No, I, I mean I, I still don't know how they thought this was going to be something that people were going to watch and it was all of a sudden going to. Now, has the PGA Tour benefited? Absolutely. Have they adopted some of the things that Live was presenting? Absolutely. But you're, you're, you're trying to do this around the world and people just weren't interested. Yeah. Dylan?
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Todd
Yes, I'm seeing actually like just today it says that they've secured funding from an unnamed investor that will keep the circuit alive. But it seems like that would basically just cover what's owed to golfers right now. So it's like putting a band aid on a musket ball. There's still the larger issue of like maintaining and running the league.
[07:34]
Dan Patrick
8773 DP Shell get to your phone calls. He is the two time Amazon best selling author speak speaker. He was the bookmaker at the center of the Shohei Otani Ippei Mizuhara sports betting scandal. Matt Boyer was sentenced to one year and a day pleading guilty for money laundering, falsified tax returns, illegal bookmaking. I talked to him after yesterday's show and I started out by asking him, when is the first time you took a bet from Shohei Ohtani's interpreter?
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Matt Boyer
I believe it's 2021. That the end of the. Yeah, the End of the season of 2021.
[08:16]
Dan Patrick
How were you introduced?
[08:18]
Matt Boyer
I actually met him at a poker game after I was introduced to him by going to a private poker game with some of the Angels players and coaches and friends at a local Hilton in San Diego.
[08:32]
Dan Patrick
When did you realize that he worked for Shohei?
[08:36]
Matt Boyer
I mean, I knew right away, of course. I mean, who didn't, right? He was such a popular character, probably the most important, most popular interpreter in the world. Thanks to Shohei, of course.
[08:48]
Dan Patrick
What's your role as a bookie? Of keeping somebody betting. But also, is there a sympathetic side to being a bookie when you realize somebody is in a lot of trouble?
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Matt Boyer
Yeah, that's a fine line. As a legal bookmaker, you're giving out credit and it's a. It's a tough way of trying to make a living, but also not being greedy and egotistical and then trying to maintain giving someone a relationship to where you're not hurting their family or their situation with their bills or. It's a very fine line. The more you get to know the person and more you understand them and what they do for a living, then the more you can help them if they are having a gambling problem, which, you know, I personally had one as well, so I understand that dynamic better than anyone. But you're right, it's a. It's a hard line to figure out. And sometimes they're. Oftentimes they're lying to you because they're gambling with you, and they. They want to give you the impression that it's not affecting them, you know, at home or financially, because they want to continue to bet with you or get credit or ask you for more credit. So those are the situations that come up. They're hard to, I'm going to say, run and figure out. Because when you are dealing with these people, you know, at least in my case, you have a heart. I mean, the last thing you want to see is someone just losing more money than they can afford.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but at what point are you allowed, or do you ask? That's a lot of money you're betting. Does Shohei know you're betting this?
[10:15]
Matt Boyer
Truth be told, when Epay came to me, it was a tiny account. It was $1,008,000 credit line. So I, you know, initially I thought it was no big deal. And then that escalated very rapidly to the point of about 30 days later, we were at a half a million to a million dollar credit line. And then I knew at that point it had to be either Shohei or him together, or maybe he had some funds I didn't know about. You really don't know everyone's personal private lifestyle. Maybe he was a large investor in something. But then when it started getting to the point of millions and millions, then I knew that either Shohei was involved or they were partners. I wasn't really sure. And I didn't ask a lot of questions because anonymity in my business when I was running a bookmaking operation was key. I had a lot of clients and celebrities and athletes, CEOs that were very private. And that's why they liked working with me, because of that privacy. But at the same time, I was being paid $500,000 every two weeks. So the greedy side of me of running a business and making a lot of money was just like, you know what? Everything's running smoothly. He's not even making any signs of, you know, panicking or even really, he's laughing and making fun of himself quite often. If you look at the text messages that the government, you know, threw out, which is there was quite a few of them, you could see us joking back and forth about both of us being degenerates and losing money through bookmakers slash casinos, etc.
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Dan Patrick
So you didn't know that Sh. Otani knew? Not for a fact, right?
[11:47]
Dylan
Yeah.
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Matt Boyer
I mean, I didn't have a relationship with Shohei at that time. He spoke very little English. And I've been around the team and some players. I used to play golf with some of the players and gamble with them. And quite a few of the Angels players were betting through my organization. But my relationship was with dp. I never spoke about anything outside of that to even the players. Even like, for example, some of the players were betting with me. I wouldn't discuss their business with the other players. That being said, I don't think a lot of these guys knew. I'm saying. I'm talking about the Angels players knew the extent of what was going on because Ippei was very private, didn't have a lot to say. You know, very, very wanted things to be low key. I realize now why. At the time, I thought. Personally, I thought Shohei was betting with him. Because the amount of bets that they were making and clearly the amount of money that was being wired. I just figured he had to have known. Especially with that long period of time, you're seeing $500,000 wires come up at the count every two weeks for basically a year and a half. I just. Even to this day, I still don't understand how Shohei didn't, wasn't aware. I do believe wholeheartedly that he never gambled. I don't think he was placing any of the bets or involved in that part at all.
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Dan Patrick
He's Matt Boyer, two time Amazon best selling author and at the center of the Shohei Otani if a Mizuhara sports betting scandal. How many athletes, give us a sense are betting this way that you dealt with that? We're betting through a booking.
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Matt Boyer
I estimate at least 50, 60%. It's probably even higher because the reality is everyone's using third party people and beards and people to bet through. You know, let's be real competitive. Athletes are very competitive on and everything they do and sports is. If you're a sports fan, as you and I both are, we watch all sports and whether you gamble or not, you generally like to have some sort of play in the game. Whether it's fantasy betting, a friend, you know, you go, I don't know about you. Do you even golf, Dan?
[13:52]
Dan Patrick
I golf. I, I'm a, a guy who gambled a long, long, long time ago and cold turkey. Yeah.
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Matt Boyer
Do you. So you don't gamble on the golf course? Five bucks, ten bucks, nothing.
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Paulie
Okay.
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Matt Boyer
That's rare, right? I mean if you, if you go to a golf course, you'll see that most people that golf, whether they gamble a lot or little, it's usually A$5, 20, whatever. Most people gamble on almost everything they do. When it comes to that, I think athletes are even higher because the fact they're so competitive and they like to win at all cost.
[14:20]
Dan Patrick
But these are current athletes, Matt. These are current athletes who are still betting.
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Matt Boyer
Definitely. Yeah, no doubt.
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Dan Patrick
How many bookies are there left in America?
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Matt Boyer
Millions. I mean they're everywhere. Literally throughout the country. There's at least a million bookmakers. Now, some of them might only have 10 or 20 clients, you know, very small. There's a lot of small operations that are just local bookmakers at golf courses or whatnot. But there's millions.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I just didn't know if it was a shrinking because you have all these other gambling sites where you can go and do it above board. But a lot of guys love that, you know, they're not paying taxes, that, you know, you can do it in a clandestine way. So what's next for you?
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Matt Boyer
You know, I'm excited about this journey I'm rebuilding, as you know, you just said. I have two books that I produced. One of them I just did right when I got out of prison and public speaking and Giving back to people that, you know, maybe hopefully NFL teams, NBA teams, college athletes. I'd like to go to these schools and universities and give a public speaking event to where I can help these kids avoid going down the wrong path. I have the best experience because I've been on both sides. Not always a gambler, but as a bookmaker and dealing with athletes. And I understand that it's easy to fall into that trap of, you know, not only betting yourself, but maybe trying to sway a game, you know, fixing a game to make a few extra dollars, especially these college athletes. And now you're seeing it with all these pros that are, you know, Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups and guys that you would never anticipate getting into trouble because they're wealthy and, you know, they're NBA athletes. But it's sad that it's happening. If I could persuade a kid from doing that or a professional athlete, then by giving a public speaking event, then I feel like I'm doing something great. So I plan on doing that and just building my personal brand.
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Dan Patrick
Did you take any action? Were there any suspicious bets where you thought somebody might be fixing a game?
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Matt Boyer
You know, just in the ufc, there was a particular fight that I saw a lot of people coming in, betting on, and there was a fight that was rigged and they got caught and they obviously got barred from the UFC tennis matches. I saw quite a bit lower level, you know, like the 2, 300 top 300 players in the nation, not these high level ones that I'm aware of, you know, top 20, top 100. So those are usually the guys who are really not making a ton of money that are, you know, trying to find other edges to make an earning on the side, sadly, the wrong way.
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Dan Patrick
If I task you to fix a sporting event, which one are you fixing?
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Matt Boyer
Tennis is the easiest by far. Not even close. I mean, because you can make it so unobvious by, you know, just playing a particular set or a game. For example, you know, tennis works. You got to win. And men's usually three out of five. I mean, you could just throw set one, come back and win the next, you know, three. And if you throw set one and you're a favorite, especially then the underdog is. The value is very big on that.
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Dan Patrick
Sounds like that's happened many times.
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Matt Boyer
I mean, if you think about it in tennis, tennis wise, you still win. So the guy who threw set one can still win the match and still get paid and still keep his status and nobody really gets harmed in that sense. In his mind, of course, there's somebody getting harmed who's gambling on the sport and has basically is betting a bet that they're going to lose and they don't even know it. And the integrity of the sport, more importantly, is the problem. And that's what I hate to see more than anything. I knew in 2018, when gambling became legal, this was going to happen, and I've been saying it even before I went to prison, that it's only going to get worse. And really what you're going to see, the sad part is these young kids, I have five children and three of them are young adults who have their, you know, boyfriends or kids come over and I hear it all day long. They're all gambling and they're young.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Sean
And.
[18:17]
Dan Patrick
Oh, I agree.
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Dylan
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
That's a sweet spot of 18 to 24. Matt. I keep saying I've been down that road and thank God I wise enough to quit gambling because I. I see where we're headed with this. Are you worried about your safety at all through all of this?
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Matt Boyer
No, definitely not. I mean, don't get me wrong, anything can happen, especially this crazy world we're living in. But, you know, I've been. I made my peace with everybody. I've done everything I can to make it right. And, you know, I'm not an angel. I've done some things in my life that I'm not so proud of, but I've done more than I am proud of. So I don't. I don't really have any enemies per se, that are looking for me.
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Marvin
So.
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Dylan
No.
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Dan Patrick
Thanks for joining us, Matt. Good luck with the journey.
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Matt Boyer
Thanks for having me, Dan. I really appreciate it. It's been an honor.
[19:03]
Dan Patrick
That's Matt Boyer. We did the interview yesterday after the show. Look, I don't want to glamorize anything with this person. I know he's got an agenda. I know that he. He's got to make money. You owe the government $10 million from what I'm told probably wants to look at doing a movie deal on. On this. So there's a lot involved. You know, the tennis aspect of fixing a tennis match. And we've had examples of this. It's happened recently. The number of players, athletes who do bet through bookies. Now, There was no DraftKings or FanDuel when I was growing up. I bet through a bookie. If I was growing up now, I'd be all over that app. I wouldn't be going through a bookie. But a lot of people don't want people to know what they're doing. They don't want you to be able to follow their activity, that they want to be able to do something clean. It's with somebody. You don't know how much I'm making or how much I lost. So there's less of a paper trail. I understand that it's going to continue. That's why I wanted to know how many bookies. I was told there's probably 10 real bookies left in America, like prominent bookies now. You have guys who will take, you know, some action. But as far as true bookies, a source told me probably 10 major players in America. All right, we'll take a break, get the phone calls coming up. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show
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Ari Chambers
What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.
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Sam J
Hey, what's up, y'?
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Sean
All?
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Sam J
It's your girl, Sam J.
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Ari Chambers
And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I heart Women's Sports because let's
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Sam J
be real women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days.
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Ari Chambers
So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii.
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Sam J
My first thought is just like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what do we. What are we eating?
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Ari Chambers
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Sam J
Shout outs to you, Naomi, you get the Palm.
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Ari Chambers
Naomi, you get the palm for that.
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Sam J
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Dan Patrick
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We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia. AO rewatch our brand new podcast.
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And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators and friends, including director Jonathan Krisel, the the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.
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Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvised. Not just words, but a song, a melody.
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Dylan
Well, I thought he was gonna write. I thought you were all gonna write a song.
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Dan Patrick
to play social casino void. Where prohibited, visit spinquest.com for more details. Full disclosure I did have some trepidation about having the bookmaker for Shohei Ohtani's interpreter on because, and I've talked about this and I, I speak from firsthand experience. If I was 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and I had a chance to bet whenever I wanted to bet and I could do that on an app. And yes, I know I DraftKings is a sponsor, but if you do it and you do it and you do it wisely, you can have fun, it can be entertainment for you. But the problem I see is knowing firsthand and I was actually good at it. I walked away with a profit. But I, I needed a devastating loss to walk away. And that's what happened. I lost 3, $300 on a bowl game and my bookie actually talked me out of the winning side. And I'm thankful that he did because if I won that I might be still betting. And I just know you, you don't own that money, you rent that money. So having him on, I wanted to kind of understand, you know, what is that like when, you know, somebody is that damaged gambling wise and they're losing $40 million as a bookie, is there any part of you that says, man, I can't take your bets anymore? And you know, he said, yeah, a little bit. But look, he's running a business and probably think of that gravy train is going to continue. I'm still amazed though, that nobody flagged this like the bank and maybe Shohei Otani had no idea what was going on. And even, you know, the bookie, Matt Boyer said so. He doesn't believe that Shohei was involved in this. But doesn't your bank look at things like this, withdraws? Do you have a, do you have a business manager? Like you can't just have a couple million dollars gone and then a couple of million dollars and then a couple million dollars. That to me is the most amazing part of all of this, that nobody flagged this. So, and he got away with this. But you know, once I, I mentioned that I was going to have him on, I heard from three people, two, two that I know and you know, trusted sources on a lot of things. But you start to get into the different layers of gambling, the leagues and their involvement and how deep it goes and, and who they're, you know, in business with. And man, I, this is what keeps commissioners up at night. I asked Adam Silver what keeps you up at night, and he said, gambling, because that's your, your league is Based on that, that we understand that everything is on the up and up. How many times on a Monday we take phone calls, people saying the referees were out to get us, like the fix was in. And I don't believe that's the case, but I understand why people would say that your entire. Your entire infrastructure is built upon your integrity and your integrity of making sure the product you put on the field is correct. But there's so many different loopholes. There's so many weak spots here. And it's never the guy who's making, or at least not always the guy making all the money. It's somebody who wants to make all the money, somebody who wants to have a shortcut here. And that's what happens. But that's a lot of money. And he's raking in $500,000 a month. I think maybe it was a week. Yeah. Time.
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Marvin
How many times have we seen a bad beat? At least even once in a while, where you're like, is that a bad beat or is that some kind of contrived bad beat? Like, how could that have possibly happened where I lost my bed in the last second?
[29:02]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but it's not always about you. You can have a good win. Like, we always look at the bad beat. We don't look at the guy who won. You know, by the way, gambling podcast coming up at after the show. And I did this because I do talk about gambling and Dylan gambles and big day, Ray and Shay and Irving. I. I'm a voyeur. I like, I watch this now. If I thought that Dylan or Ray, who were employees of mine, had a gambling problem, then I would say so. I would say something to them. I would. I would encourage them to get help, even if it meant leaving the show. I feel that strongly about it. But we're doing it kind of tongue in cheek when we gamble on here. Or they gamble, because I do not. But I'm aware of it. I, you know, I take it seriously when I bring this topic up because I want you as a parent or even if you're in that age group that you have a credit card, you're away at school, your kids are away at school, or they have a credit card, keep an eye, because it will. You know, Brendan Sorsby had everything. All this talent, nil. Money that wasn't good enough. And it is a disease. It is. It's like alcoholism. It is a disease. And you want that action. Some of the biggest names in all the sports, Pete Rose, Michael Jordan, they needed the juice. Now Michael may still. Charles loves the juice. Pete Rose, they need it. So just. I know I get on my soapbox with it, but it, you know, if you tune out, you tune out. I just want to make sure that you understand. It can happen to you. It can happen to your son, daughter. It can. It can happen right under your nose. That's the amazing part of it. A couple of phone calls in here. By the way, sign up for the DP show calendar yearbook because you can send us your ugly picture. Awkward picture. The awkward, the better. DP Calendar2027@gmail.com. the month of December will be the audience you provide your pictures. We're going to try to include as many as possible. Sean in Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean.
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Sean
Hey, Dan. Great in the info with Matt Boyer there, I can't win a coin cost. So thank you for all that karma cred you and the Dan at. But before I get to that, real quick, Zay flowers. Congratulations. Two times I had a chance to spend some extended time with him. Loves his fan base. Genuine, nice guy. But to you guys, best scripted show in the business. You just mentioned the yearbook photos. Thank you yesterday for putting out the call. I saw that yesterday and I wanted to send one, but I graduated 33 years ago. 32 years ago, my girlfriend at the time burn my yearbook to a crisp. Now, yesterday afternoon, my high school yearbook popped back up on Facebook for sale for five bucks. And I'm happy to say this morning I'm an owner of it. So I'll be sending one in. Thanks, guys.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Sean. Yeah, thank you. We look forward to it. I didn't want to get into. Why did she burn your yearbook up? Let me just wonder how that happened. Chad in South Dakota. Hi, Chad. What do you have for me today?
[32:41]
Dylan
Morning, guys. Five, six, dents, 180. Thank you. Two quick things. One, in June was in Chicago for a work trip late at night at the Four Seasons. Bob Costas is there. He just got done with the White Sox game. I walk over to him fairly full, tell him how much of a fan I am and my brother is as well and wonder if he could take a quick video immediately off the cuff. 30 seconds of pure. Bob Costas couldn't be a nicer guy. Class act. The other thing, maybe an idea for the trail. Idea with you and your wife. The Mickelson Trail in the Black Hills of South Dakota, little over 100 miles. You can't camp on it overnight. So every night you stop in a small hills town, have a steak, hit a Brewery. Go to a casino if you want to take a shower, hit the trail again the next day. In a week, you're done. Maybe test the waters a little bit and see if you like it.
[33:37]
Dan Patrick
All right, thank you, Chad. I nearly lost my wife in the Black Hills. She went out on a bike and she was carrying the bike like she had to go in the river, carry the bike over her head. She came back, she was all cut up. It was getting dark. I've got four little ones. We're in a hotel because we're out there for a wedding. And she said, oh, I want to go take a bike trip. And I go, okay. Like eight hours later, can't get a hold of her. And she came back like she came back from war. She's all banged up. And I go, what? Where the hell have you been? She goes, oh, I got a story for you. I go, oh, my God.
[34:21]
Paulie
Yeah, Paul, I lost my wife in the Black Hill. Sounds like a Clint Black song or something like that. George Strait.
[34:30]
Dan Patrick
Fred in Maryland. Hi, Fred. What do you have for me today?
[34:34]
Dylan
Good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. 6ft, 185. Listen, regarding your topic today, I think there's some naivety involved here, Dan. The success rate on people who attempt the Appalachian trail is roughly 80, 25%. There is a 75% failure there, and that's people that have really went after it. It's, it's a challenging thing, to be sure.
[35:09]
Dan Patrick
Oh, I don't think she's naive about it. I think she's driven to do it and it's always been on her bucket list. I'm going to try to continue to discourage her, but thank you, Fred. Thank you for the statistics. I'll be using that in about a half hour from now when I see her. Yes, Marvin?
[35:26]
Marvin
Is she trying to discourage you from, like, retiring?
[35:32]
Dan Patrick
So, so I would come back because I don't want to go on the Appalachian Trail? Yeah, I, I, I don't, I didn't think of it that way. Maybe she's playing some games. So why'd you decide to come back? I don't want to do the Appalachian Trail.
[35:49]
Sean
Huh?
[35:51]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Dylan?
[35:52]
Todd
Yeah. What else would you do during that 4ish month stretch other than coming back and doing the show?
[36:00]
Dan Patrick
I don't know. I don't want her to do it. But I said, how about you do portions of it? Are there nice areas that you could do a week and then I could come and get you and then you come back like a month later and do in another Portion. And we could go from Georgia to Maine, but we could do it collectively.
[36:21]
Todd
Ish.
[36:22]
Dan Patrick
That might be. Might be the route that I take. Yes, Paulie.
[36:26]
Paulie
According to this search, the easiest air quotes part of the Appalachian trail is Maryland. 41 miles. Relatively flat and unthreatening.
[36:36]
Dan Patrick
David in Denver. Hi, David. What do you have for me?
[36:39]
Dylan
I'm still thinking about the chick that burned the dude's yearbook. Man, that's going to.
[36:43]
Paulie
Wow.
[36:44]
Dylan
Be. How jealous do you have to be? But yeah, dude. So like, my brother, shout out to John. He's. He's doing the Appalachian Trail in sections, so it's taken him like three years. But what he'll do is he'll do the northeast section and then he just finished the Shenandoah Valley section. So I was like, man, hey, how about you and Fritzi go on a little hike? A little. A little stroll through the Shenandoah Valley. It could be a great bromance. Could be a good bro time, you know, Then all your beef.
[37:13]
Dan Patrick
Oh, Todd could. No, he can't survive. No.
[37:16]
Marvin
Is it like a diner? Every few miles up the road, you could kind of pull over.
[37:20]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And we'll never resolve all of our beefs. It won't happen. Here is. Here's the plot. I tell Todd things that maybe would help him that he needs to work on. Todd disregards them. That's it.
[37:33]
Marvin
No, I'll say something like, you know, I should work on that. I should look into that. Then. Like, I never do. But that's always a big.
[37:39]
Dan Patrick
I hate that. I hate that. Yeah, I could be better, you know, I'll be like, todd, you know, maybe don't do that. Yeah, I could be better about that. Yes. Dylan, do you think Todd could handle
[37:49]
Todd
the 41 mile stretch of Maryland?
[37:52]
Dan Patrick
No.
[37:54]
Marvin
How many months do I have to do it?
[37:57]
Dan Patrick
Well, if we're doing 41 miles, can you do maybe 10 a day?
[38:02]
Marvin
That's asking a lot. I was thinking more like five if we can negotiate that down a little bit. Five sixes there.
[38:07]
Dan Patrick
No, no, I. I know you can't do it, but then, you know, there's a lot of people can't.
[38:11]
Marvin
I like to walk. I just. I get the plantar fasciitis and sometimes I get cramps in the ankles.
[38:15]
Dan Patrick
See, you're. You got cramps in your ankle.
[38:23]
Marvin
The toes kind of get. Just get a little. I don't know, I get a little charley horse. But the heels. Yeah, the heels get banged up fast. Pickleball or not. It's just once I start moving, the Feet.
[38:35]
Dan Patrick
Your mom did a number on you.
[38:37]
Kelvin Washington
Yeah, she did.
[38:37]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
She did.
[38:38]
Marvin
I'm going to the ear nose throat doctor right after the show because I've had a clogged ear for a month and it's still unresolved, so I gotta go get it checked.
[38:44]
Dan Patrick
How about I cut it off?
[38:46]
Marvin
Like a van Gogh kind of thing?
[38:47]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
[38:48]
Marvin
It's really annoying, though. For a month, this client. Every time I blow my nose, I hear, like, this weird clogging.
[38:55]
Todd
What is the over under on Jewish kids from Brooklyn who have done the Appalachian trail? I'm gonna guess it's probably about 0.5.
[39:06]
Dan Patrick
Paulie, could you see. Could you look that up?
[39:07]
Marvin
Yeah.
[39:08]
Paulie
Wish me luck.
[39:09]
Dan Patrick
Jewish kids from Brooklyn, Appalachian trail. And the answer is nobody. Your mom would never let you go on the Appalachian trail.
[39:19]
Marvin
I had to go get a throat culture, like, every week because I had big tonsils as soon as I met a coughing noise. You got strep throat. We got to check and see if you have strep throat.
[39:30]
Dan Patrick
I still love the story, and this is emblematic of your relationship with your mom when you and your brother went to the doctor and you got a clean bill of health, but your mom insisted that you guys get penicillin shots when you were younger.
[39:43]
Marvin
She went into Dr. Houtman's office, and all of a sudden, we're getting in the car, we're high fiving each other. My brother and I, I think, no shot. No shot this time. And she get. She did a little, like, you got to come back in and like, what's going on? Next thing I know, our pants are down and we're getting shots in the toughest as we'd like to say. You actually convinced the doctor. My mom has no degree of any type of medicine, and she convinced doctor. Might be a good idea just to give them a shot.
[40:06]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin, if Fritzi wasn't married, do you
[40:08]
Marvin
think he'd still be living with his mom right now?
[40:11]
Dan Patrick
Yes.
[40:12]
Marvin
I think I get, like, an apartment next door. I don't think I'd be looking in the exact apartment.
[40:16]
Dan Patrick
You would be there for every meal. She would do your laundry.
[40:20]
Marvin
Yeah.
[40:22]
Dan Patrick
You. You would be with your mom.
[40:25]
Marvin
She take her little wagon out. We go to the supermarket and, you know, down Brighton Beach. It'll be. It'll be lovely.
[40:30]
Dan Patrick
Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow. If you're watching on Peacock, which we hope you are, we're going out to the rec tech grills. It's a Pizza Wednesday, right after this.
[40:42]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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[40:54]
Dan Patrick
Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. Ah, what a day. What a day it's been this day in sports history. Have that for you. Coming up, final results of the poll questions as well. Chris in la. Hi, Chris. What do you have for me?
[41:11]
Chris
Hey, Dan. I saw your interview with Dan LeBatard and I'm sorry to go off course. I graduated From Full Sail 24 years ago and I am curious what you're telling your students and prospective students with the state of the industry right now. Because I was a location scout in TV and film for 25 years and the industry is currently gone. So when parents are asking you, hey, should my kid go to Brown Broadcasting School? What are you telling them?
[41:44]
Dan Patrick
Tell them the truth.
[41:45]
Dylan
Tell.
[41:46]
Dan Patrick
I tell them how difficult it is. I tell them that not all of you will be on the air. In fact, most of you won't be. I tell them to diversify. I tell them to learn how to produce, how to direct, how to run a camera. Your degree is in sportscasting, and not everybody's going to be in front of a microphone. The reason, one of the reasons why I started my broadcast school was I met with the parents of a student who went to an SEC school and graduated in communications and nobody had ever checked on if he had had an internship, any kind of experience. And I thought, you know, there's no guarantees. I stay in touch with my students. When you graduate, you always have an opportunity to check in with me and the people who run the program. This isn't where once you graduate, you're done. That's what colleges do. I speak from experience. I tell them who you see going up, you might see on the way down. Not everybody's going to get to espn. You might be in Bozeman, but to call yourself a professional sportscaster, consider that an honor and don't do it for money because you're going to be disappointed. So we speak the truth, Chris. I don't know what happened with your career, but with these young students, they are getting great advice. They're getting the answers to the test. We've created something that other universities are trying to replicate, but they don't have me running the program. I review students videos every single month. You submit a video and I'll watch it and I'll critique It. But your degree is in sportscasting. And Full Sail gave us total autonomy to be able to teach this program. But thank you for the phone call. Matthew in South Carolina. Hi, Matt. What do you have for me today?
[43:45]
Dylan
Hey, Dan. DP 59176 this morning. I. I'm a middle school PE teacher, middle school football coach, and heard y' all today while I was painting the field talking about yearbook photos. Well, I've done Captain Jack Sparrow, Mario, Darth Vader, the Bandit, Ricky Bobby. I'm looking for some ideas for this year. I've got a few weeks to figure it out.
[44:11]
Dan Patrick
So wait a minute. You're a teacher and you're gonna do a yearbook photo dressed up as somebody?
[44:19]
Dylan
Every year.
[44:20]
Dan Patrick
Every year. All right, does anybody have advice, a suggestion from Matthew for it? This year's yearbook photo. I got crickets. Matt. I got crickets. Dylan, you should have one.
[44:35]
Todd
Robocop.
[44:39]
Dan Patrick
Why would he do Robocop?
[44:41]
Todd
I don't know. Just the first thing that popped into my head.
[44:43]
Dan Patrick
Well, because you have a Robocop tattoo.
[44:46]
Todd
I know. I didn't even look at it, though. Yeah, it's just on the top of my head.
[44:50]
Dan Patrick
You don't want to be reminded of it.
[44:52]
Todd
No,
[44:54]
Dan Patrick
but you have a. Like an oyster. You have a tattoo of an oyster? Yep.
[45:01]
Todd
A fish smoking a pipe, a peach, a palm tree, a couple sharks and a dragonfly, and a really, really bad flamingo tattoo. Oh, and Reba's signature.
[45:16]
Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. You. You lost a bet in Reba McIntyre. Her signature.
[45:21]
Dylan
Yep.
[45:21]
Todd
Got that on my back.
[45:23]
Dan Patrick
Of course you did. Yeah. And Shay and Irving got one too, didn't he? He did, yeah. Yes. Marvin, Paul, and Fritzy, do you guys have tattoos?
[45:35]
Paulie
No, I never got one. I just never found something that I thought I'd keep forever.
[45:40]
Marvin
A lot of scars. No tattoos.
[45:43]
Dan Patrick
Emotional scars. Emotional scars.
[45:45]
Marvin
I have those as well. Those are worse than the physical ones.
[45:48]
Dan Patrick
This day in sports history.
[45:50]
Paulie
Paul, in 2013, Bud Selig suspended Alex Rodriguez, a weird number. 211 games for PEDs that were reduced to 162. And this is a good one. We brought out trades the other day. In 1962, clubs traded managers. Detroit traded Jimmy Dykes for Cleveland's Joe Gordon.
[46:08]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, we brought that up yesterday. Let's see final results of the poll question.
[46:13]
Todd
Dylan, thoughts on Zay flowers getting a 35 million dollar a year deal with the Ravens? 65% say hate it. I think that's a little strong, but. And the food, that's the best. Even when it's bad. Pizza, burgers, tacos, or other pizza. Running away with it at 74%.
[46:31]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I would throw in hot dogs as well.
[46:33]
Todd
Oh, yeah, hot dogs.
[46:35]
Dan Patrick
2012, Usain Bolt set the Olympic record 9.63 seconds. Todd, what'd you learn today?
[46:43]
Marvin
Paulie brought this one up earlier. The last time the steals had fewer than six wins in a season. 1988. Almost 40 years. Wow.
[46:49]
Dan Patrick
Dylan, how about you?
[46:51]
Todd
You're not gonna have to hike the Appalachian Trail.
[46:54]
Dan Patrick
No, I'm not. Marvin.
[46:56]
Marvin
College football.
[46:56]
Dan Patrick
Coaches don't watch college football. They do not.
[46:59]
Sean
Paul.
[47:00]
Paulie
Tennis is the easiest sport to fix.
[47:02]
Dan Patrick
Todd, what did I learn?
[47:03]
Marvin
Alabama ranked outside the coaches poll top 10 for the first time since 2008.
[47:08]
Dan Patrick
We'll talk to you tomorrow. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

Hour 3 – Matt Bowyer, Gambling Epidemic

Hour 3 – Matt Bowyer, Gambling Epidemic

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 3 — Matt Boyer, Gambling Epidemic

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Live Tour & Sports Headlines (04:58–07:34)

Matt Boyer Interview: Inside the Scandal

How the Betting Started

Bookmaking Ethics and Dilemmas

Money Flows & Shohei Ohtani's Role

Athlete Gambling Prevalence

State of Bookmaking in America

Boyer's Redemption & Public Speaking Mission

Fixing Games: The Weak Links in Sports

The Youth Gambling Epidemic

Notable Quotes & Reflections

On Gambling & Integrity in Sports (25:45–29:02)

Lighter Moments & Show Banter

Top Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

Important Timestamps

Conclusion

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 3 — Matt Boyer, Gambling Epidemic

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Live Tour & Sports Headlines (04:58–07:34)

Matt Boyer Interview: Inside the Scandal

How the Betting Started

Bookmaking Ethics and Dilemmas

Money Flows & Shohei Ohtani's Role

Athlete Gambling Prevalence

State of Bookmaking in America

Boyer's Redemption & Public Speaking Mission

Fixing Games: The Weak Links in Sports

The Youth Gambling Epidemic

Notable Quotes & Reflections

On Gambling & Integrity in Sports (25:45–29:02)

Lighter Moments & Show Banter

Top Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

Important Timestamps

Conclusion