Hour 3 – Memories of Atlanta and a Career, Steve Young

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 3 – Memories of Atlanta and a Career, Steve Young

Release Date: March 13, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Steve Young, Hall of Fame Quarterback

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1. Reflecting on Career and Considering Retirement

Dan Patrick opens Hour 3 by contemplating the future of his broadcasting career. He shares a heartfelt conversation with his wife during a romantic vacation in wine country, where she suggests, “[...] you've started your broadcasting career, TV career in Atlanta at CNN, why don't you end your career in Atlanta at the Super Bowl?” ([06:00]). This idea sparks Dan's consideration of wrapping up his show during Super Bowl week, envisioning it as a grand send-off that could potentially earn an Emmy:

• Dan Patrick: “I think we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season.” ([02:30])
• Dan Patrick: “Super Bowl week is a hell of a time to do it. We could put together like a baller week, send off, farewell kind of thing.” ([09:00])

2. Discussion with Co-Hosts on Extending the Show

Co-hosts Todd Fritz and Marvin engage in a lively debate about the feasibility and implications of extending the show to conclude at the Super Bowl. They humorously discuss the logistics and potential for memorable moments, such as getting pies to faces as part of the farewell:

• Dan Patrick: “Marvin, what about you? Pie to the face...” ([02:52])
• Todd Fritz: “...just once, for the last time, we might have a shot at winning an Emmy.” ([04:00])
• Dan Patrick: “Out of respect to you guys, the audience, to wrap it up in the proper way, I am certainly considering that.” ([09:30])

3. Reflecting on the Atlanta Journey

Dan delves into his career origins, highlighting how moving to Atlanta and joining CNN was a pivotal moment that shaped his path:

• Dan Patrick: “I was really down. I was 27 and I thought, I won't get a job in TV. I just lost out the weekend job at Channel 2 and my ex-girlfriend said, you should come down to Atlanta. CNN is hiring.” ([06:00])
• Dan Patrick: “If I don't go to Atlanta and I don't get that job or take the job at headline Sports, I'm not here today because I probably would have just stayed in radio.” ([06:30])

4. Interview with Steve Young: Career Insights and Statistics

The highlight of the episode features an in-depth conversation with Steve Young, the legendary Hall of Fame quarterback. They discuss various aspects of Young's career, including his performance metrics and the evolution of the quarterback role in the NFL.

a. Steve Young’s Career Highlights

Dan and Todd explore Steve Young’s tenure in the NFL, touching on his achievements and contributions to the game:

• Dan Patrick: “Steve Young, the Hall of Famer. He worked at a car dealership.” ([25:37])
• Todd Fritz: “In high school and college, I worked all summers with landscape company Bucky Lanzarone...”. ([26:00])

b. Pick-Sixes and Defensive Strategies

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Steve Young's interception returns for touchdowns (pick-sixes) and how they compare to other quarterbacks like Joe Montana:

• Dan Patrick: “He threw 11 interceptions returned for touchdowns.” ([44:08])
• Todd Fritz: “Steve Young's got among the lowest of pick sixes.” ([53:09])

There is a humorous back-and-forth regarding the accuracy of these statistics:

• Dan Patrick: “Out of 139 interceptions, Todd, can you see how many Montana threw pick sixes here? We gotta go.” ([45:00])
• Todd Fritz: “He [Steve Young] worked for his father, Steve.” ([25:37])

c. Modern vs. Traditional Quarterback Dynamics

Todd provides insights into how the quarterback role has evolved, emphasizing the need for quarterbacks to be mobile and versatile in today’s game:

• Todd Fritz: “The game is now. Like, if you... the quarterback has to leave the huddle every day down with a threat to attack the line of scrimmage.” ([30:29])
• Todd Fritz: “In today's game, you have to have the ability to run around, threaten the line of scrimmage...” ([34:16])

He compares current quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson to traditional ones, discussing their adaptability and impact on the game.

5. Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions

As the episode winds down, Dan Patrick and his co-hosts reflect on the discussions and the potential for future shows:

• Dan Patrick: “I don't like death talk. I don't like talking about things ending.” ([12:34])
• Todd Fritz: “It's sad because then you have to go out and try to find another job.” ([12:39])

They contemplate the legacy of the show and consider creative ways to conclude it, maintaining humor and camaraderie throughout the conversation.

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Notable Quotes

• Dan Patrick ([06:00]): “...why don't you end your career in Atlanta at the Super Bowl?”
• Todd Fritz ([10:12]): “Just. That is perfect. Yeah. That's exactly what we should be doing.”
• Dan Patrick ([12:34]): “I don't like death talk. I don't like talking about things ending.”
• Steve Young ([25:37]): “...I was 27 and I thought, I won't get a job in TV.”

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Key Takeaways

• Career Reflections: Dan Patrick openly discusses his career trajectory, influenced significantly by a pivotal move to Atlanta and a chance opportunity at CNN.

• Show's Future: There's a genuine consideration of concluding the show during Super Bowl week, aiming for a memorable and impactful farewell.

• Guest Insights: Steve Young provides valuable perspectives on his career, the significance of performance metrics like pick-sixes, and the evolving role of quarterbacks in the NFL.

• Evolution of the Game: The conversation underscores the shift in quarterback responsibilities, highlighting the importance of mobility and adaptability in the modern NFL landscape.

• Humor and Camaraderie: Throughout the episode, Dan and his co-hosts maintain a light-hearted and humorous tone, even when delving into serious topics like retirement and career endings.

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This episode offers listeners a blend of personal reflections, professional insights, and engaging discussions with one of the NFL's legendary figures, all wrapped in Dan Patrick's signature humorous style.

Transcript

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[Todd Fritz]

I don't know if they were going to do better than another team or.

[Dan Patrick]

A certain number of games they needed.

[Todd Fritz]

To win or they had to win a playoff game. Whatever it was, it was Broncos.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Marvin, what about you? Pie to the face, because Chuck and Queens bet me on St. John's versus Yukon the first game, and I didn't realize St. John's was as good as they were or else I would have not taken that bet. I don't think anybody realized just how good St. John's was going to be. Now they're hotter than fish grease on Jimmy Fallon and all that. Yeah. Wait, they're hotter than fish grease on Jimmy Fallon. Like, they're hotter than fish grease, comma.

[Todd Fritz]

They were on Jimmy Fallon.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought. I thought poor Jimmy Fallon had fish grease all over him. I didn't see that story. Fish grease on Jimmy Fallon is extra hot. Garage sale. Everything must go. Clearing out the inventory. DanPatrick.com Also, sign up for the newsletter. It is really well done. Recaps everything that happened on the show in case you missed it. Even if you didn't miss it, it can still refresh your memory of all the great items that we talked about, all the great memories. Because after all, I'm on the clock with the number of days, number of shows that I have. There was reaction, though, to me maybe extending my window of Here we go, 2029. Seaton was out of the country, so. Oh, did I miss this conversation? Are we back? No, we rolling. Are we keeping the band again? No, I. I was, you know, on a romantic vacation with my wife in wine country, and she said, so final show is December 24, 2027. I said, yeah. She goes, where's the super bowl that year? I said, I don't even know. And she goes, atlanta. And we're driving. And my wife says, well, you've started your broadcasting career, TV career in Atlanta at cnn, why don't you end your career in Atlanta at the Super Bowl? And I went, I didn't have a comeback. I was like, wow. And then I just thought, you know what? I'll present that as a way to truly, truly wrap up my career. Yes. I'm just saying if the show is going to be, is going to end. Yeah, super bowl week is a hell of a time to do it. We could put together like a baller week, send off, farewell kind of thing. That could be really, really great. That could be the kind of week that actually wins us the Emmy. Just saying, you just gave me hope that maybe just once, for the last time, we might have a shot at winning an Emmy. Just by saying that we're going an extra two months, Pete Rose has a better chance of getting into the hall of Fame than we do winning a sports Emmy. I don't agree. And it might be posthumously if you know, for me as well, just like Pete Rose. Yes. Here to accept the sports Emmy is Tyler. Yes. Paul. So when you broached or floated the concept of having a two month extension.

[Todd Fritz]

For the super bowl in Atlanta, did.

[Dan Patrick]

You get any actual feedback from people that matter? I only talked to my wife.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, so no one.

[Dan Patrick]

No industry? Yeah. Some people at the people who sell this show. The sales people, right. Hey, tell me about it. You're gonna extend it to the Super Bowl. I said, hey, I just brought up a conversation I had with a romantic vacation in wine country and my wife brought that up. But yeah, we got some time. But yeah, it did. It kind of hit me that, yes, my career was at a crossroads. I had just lost out on a job at a local station in Dayton, Ohio. And then I got, I don't know, I was, I was really down. I was 27 and I thought, I won't get a job in TV. I just lost out the weekend job at Channel 2 and my ex girlfriend said, you should come down to Atlanta. CNN is hiring. I go, I, I couldn't get the job in Dayton, Ohio. I'm not going to get a job at cnn. And then it turns out they hired me. I was only doing headline sports. I wasn't even on camera. And I was, I took a $10,000 pay cut and thank God I did. Six months later, I'm in New York and I'm covering Baltimore, Boston, Philly, New York, D.C. all of the different teams, the 86 Mets, the Giants, won a Super bowl covering the Celtics. I mean, all of that was able to, you know, grow up covering some of these teams as a reporter. But if I don't go to Atlanta and I don't get that job or take the job at headline Sports, I'm not here today because I probably would have just stayed in radio. But you know, my wife was right. That's where my career got started. And at that point I didn't think that I would work in TV at all.

[Todd Fritz]

And.

[Dan Patrick]

And America would be cheated of looking at this face. They would only be able to hear that voice. And that's enough for a lot of people. But when you throw in the face part of it, Todd. Yeah, that's really. Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

And you control barriers and not say.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you mean headline Sport.

[Todd Fritz]

That would have been a problem.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Marvin, could you imagine the pilgrimage to Atlanta for your last show?

[Dan Patrick]

Like legit. Legit. Not even legit. I don't think it's not going to be a pilgrimage.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, Malcolm X went to Mecca. It was a pilgrimage.

[Dan Patrick]

They're going to make the type of pilgrimage. I don't think it'll be the same. I don't. I mean it'll be close, but I don't think it'll be the same. Shades of similar.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, not quite the same, but it's.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, degrees of it, maybe. Yes, Paul, Like Hoosiers, when the town is closed and the bus full of.

[Todd Fritz]

People, all the buses going down the street to the game, just mythical.

[Dan Patrick]

I just, I just put that out there. That was a conversation I had with my wife. That was all. I'm not putting it out to say that's what we're going to do, but I did bring that up to the Danets just to say, hey, this is something that did stir my interest in extending and we're not going to put this to a vote. We're not. No, you're not putting you. So you just put it out there now two times today. Like, what are you talking about, dude? Of course we're doing that. No, but you weren't here. Yeah, no, but now this is the second time. Now that you're like flirting with the idea, I'm guessing. I don't know how it went over the first time, but me hearing that news thinks it makes all the sense in the world. It does, it does. But I would have to talk to management because we have contracts, you know, we have relationships with sponsors and you know, I don't know how that works. To extend it two months to the end of February. Yeah. Two month bonanza. Yes. Yeah. But I am. It's under advisement. That's all that's a long time. A lot can happen. Lot can happen. I'm not going to bet a pie to the face. The final pie. No, the final pie. No, no, no. Not going to do that. But out of respect to you guys, the audience, to wrap it up in the proper way, I am certainly considering that. That we would do it just to the Super Bowl. Just to the Super Bowl.

[Todd Fritz]

That is perfect.

[Dan Patrick]

Just. That is perfect. Yeah. That's exactly what we should be doing. It's perfect. Yes. Mark, is there anybody that you would want for sure.

[Todd Fritz]

Like, we have to get this.

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Todd Fritz]

Guess. Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. I have one. Yes. Tim Kawakami. Yeah, that's. Could do 49ers.

[Todd Fritz]

You could do Warriors San Jose Mercury News.

[Dan Patrick]

He could do. If we don't have Tim Kawakami on the last show, then what are we really doing? Why did we do this? Tim Cowlishaw, you know, like all the people. Well, Jordan, Tiger. Yes, Paul? We already have an issue with this possible plan of you extending through the super bowl in Atlanta.

[Todd Fritz]

Want to hear it? So let's say we did.

[Dan Patrick]

You extended for two more months to your final contract and you did the show. We did the show in Atlanta for Super Bowl. We have to be on. On Monday.

[Todd Fritz]

To recap the super bowl, you cannot not be on a Monday.

[Dan Patrick]

So here's the plan. Last week, super bowl extravaganza, and then the final show from the attic of your house. No, no. The cat and the dog and the bacon. No, it'd be here. I'll be here in the man cave.

[Todd Fritz]

Really?

[Dan Patrick]

Put a bow on it. It's the. There's no equipment in the attic. We'll figure that out. No, we. We've already figured it out. This would be. We'd have to do that show here in the man cave, and then we turn out the lights of the man cave, and then we all walk out. You guys cry. I'm laughing. I'm celebrating. Yes, Marvin. But I just saw the 2028 Final.

[Todd Fritz]

Four is in Mason, Ohio. So we have to do.

[Dan Patrick]

No, the show from there. It could be in my hometown and I still wouldn't do a show. Wow, I'm good. No, not because it's in my hometown. I don't want to go back there. It's just like at some point, I gotta say, that's it. I'm done. Maybe we do other things. Maybe. Maybe we do a podcast once a week or something. I don't know. We're discussing all these things. Maybe I don't do anything with you. Guys, maybe I just go on my own. I've been dragging your asses up and down the floor for decades now. The one who gets so emotional is Todd. And I don't know why you get them. I don't know. I don't like death talk. I don't like talking about things ending. No, no, no. This is career death. This isn't me dying. Just in general.

[Todd Fritz]

I know everything is finite, but I just.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. I just. I don't like things that come to an end.

[Todd Fritz]

It's sad.

[Dan Patrick]

And talking about it, especially years in advance, is upsetting. No, but it's. It's sad because then you have to go out and try to find another job. That's true, too. Yeah, that's. That's the sadness.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. I'm not of an age where I.

[Dan Patrick]

Can just say I'm retiring. Would anybody retire when I retire? Paul, possibly. Seon. I'm not even remotely close to financially ready to retire. That. That is a pipe dream. But let's say somebody decides that they would like to host this show. Are you retired from doing a show like this? If somebody is over here sitting in the chair. Marvin, I just got here, so I'm staying. Okay. Paul. Likely not doing this after you leave. All right. Time. I would have to think about that. That.

[Todd Fritz]

That wouldn't.

[Dan Patrick]

I wouldn't be a definite. How about you think about it right now?

[Todd Fritz]

That's for three years from now.

[Dan Patrick]

I wouldn't say completely.

[Todd Fritz]

No, but I have other interests and things. I may want to.

[Dan Patrick]

May want to live in other places.

[Todd Fritz]

And do other things.

[Dan Patrick]

So I have to see what's going on in a couple. All right. Seaton, could you be another part of an ensemble with a radio show? M. The percentage of that is slight. Okay. But, I mean, I need a job. I need a paycheck. Okay. So maybe I'm not really interested, though, in being. And I've, like, said this before, and I don't know why I remember exactly.

[Todd Fritz]

Why I said his name, because I love the guy. Like, I truly do.

[Dan Patrick]

But, like, I don't want to be. If I'm gonna do a show with somebody else again, when do it with them. I don't want to be, like a Tucker at. You know what I mean? And be like. See, what's the poll question? Like, I don't want to do. I really don't want to do that anymore. So. Ross Tucker. If. Ross. I would very. I'd be very happy to work with Ross Tucker, but it wouldn't be in this dynamic.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. A Tucker Ed. I'm not. I don't want to be an Eisenhead. I don't want to be at anymore. Then after, once you're done, then that's the end of my ET Career. Okay. How about a Nick Wright at. No, no, not a Colin Cow herder. Cow herders.

[Todd Fritz]

Where the cow herders?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Where's your cattleman? Romette. Jim Rome. Jim Romette. It'd be wild if you were done before. He was fascinating if I retired before, some could say he's already retired. Easy. Okay. All right. Don't poke one of the kings. Been doing it a long time. I know he's done very. He could retire anytime he wants and race horses. Yeah. Or do whatever he wants. He's done very well for himself. Yes, he has. Yes, he has. Maybe you could work for Dan Lebatar and. And Stu Gods, South Beach. The great privilege of working for one of my idols, a man who has meant so much to me, truly one of the titans in the industry. All right, tell me, how is it now to work for me? It was awkward. It was awkward when Dan Lebatard interviewed me in New Orleans. It was a little awkward for the Danets. It got way too serious. Way too serious. Can't believe I missed that. Yeah. Well, you decided not to join us. Yeah. Todd. Yeah. Boycott. Yeah. You boycotted. You boycotted the big night. Where? At Tipitinas. And. And Dan was interviewing me, and I kept telling him, have fun, let's have fun. And he's like, oh, I think people should realize the backstory of what you've been through health wise. I go, no one cares. They're drinking. Nobody cares. And then he asked me the question about what was love like? What was love like in the house? In my. Yeah, what was it like? Love. What was love like in your house? Oh, my God. And I thought, you know, did he know about me sneaking, you know, Amy Lakes into the house there? I think he was going for tears. No doubt. I think that maybe he was, you know, trying to win an award or something. It was. It was Dr. Phil S. But I knew where it was. It was coming from a really good place. I just. I didn't want to talk about anything serious. It's fun. And I just remember Seaton, when he saw me after that, he goes, oh, there's Dan Patrick. Oh, the incredible. Unbelievable. And I'm glad he does that when he comes on the show too. You know, I love Dan Levitard. He's the best. He's a Great guy. It is funny, though. He's a deep thinker. He's very emotional. He is emotional. He's gone through a lot. He lost his brother. I think he leaned on me. Clearly has great respect for you. Yes, he does. Very clearly. And I'm glad somebody does. I can't account for taste. Thank you, Todd. Thank you, Todd. See, this is where I go. Nah, maybe I don't stay on.

[Todd Fritz]

Don't even do that.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd. If I said that if you need a letter recommendation. No, it's not. Oh, my God.

[Todd Fritz]

Am I gonna have to ask you.

[Dan Patrick]

For a recommendation for a job? The one guy. Okay, Marvin gets a letter of recommendation.

[Todd Fritz]

Hold on.

[Dan Patrick]

DP I have to do a resume. Oh, my God. I haven't done a resume since 2007. If you. If you do a resume, you can put me down as a reference.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, my God, A resume.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. That's because he tells you what a wonderful show you had at the end of the show. That's what you have to do. Yes. Okay. Let's play the game. Because we had a good show. We have fun. I could play the game. How do you think. How do you think Elon Musk got to where he is in the White House? Very fair. Can you guys be nice to me? Gets to break. Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

Terrible.

[Dan Patrick]

He would say, thank you. Be nice. Marvin's the nicest person I've ever met. That was a great point, Dan. Thank you, Todd. I'm exhausted, Marvin.

[Todd Fritz]

I said.

[Dan Patrick]

Very good points. He makes wonderful points. He does the Prince. How about we take a break here? Steve Young, the Hall of Famer. He might. Maybe he'll say some nice things about me being a world. Yeah. In a world. We'll take a break. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio.

[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

I mean, that says something, right?

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Todd Fritz]

Neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans?

[Dan Patrick]

It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century and the God damnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my.

[Todd Fritz]

Thought was this is the most important.

[Dan Patrick]

Phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

Hey, this is Mel Reid, LPGA Tour winner and six time ladies European Tour.

[Dan Patrick]

Winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC sports reporter and host. You forgot to say warmer. Miss America by the way. And we've got a new podcast, Quiet.

[Todd Fritz]

Please with Mel and Kira.

[Dan Patrick]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower.

[Todd Fritz]

Or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for.

[Dan Patrick]

The dads, Brads and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Penny, Amanda Baliotis.

[Todd Fritz]

So if you want to keep up.

[Dan Patrick]

With us and here is yap, tune.

[Todd Fritz]

Into our new podcast, listen to Quiet.

[Dan Patrick]

Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue sports and entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. About 40 minutes from now, Fritzi takes a pie to the face. Marvin takes a pie to the face as well. More phone calls coming up. He's the hall of Famer, three time super bowl champ of the Niners. Steve Young back on the program. Steve, we were wondering, did you ever have a full time job, aside from being a football player when you got out of high school and you went to byu, did you ever have a job like, you know, some of 99% of the rest of Americans where maybe you wash dishes or something? So, Todd, let me start with you. Steve Young, did he have a job and what job was it? I think he did have a job, and it was some kind of paralegal or something with a law or something along the way. Okay, all right, all right.

[Todd Fritz]

High end. No way.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got to go around the room. Everybody gets a gas here. But, you know, keep in mind he grew up in Greenwich, Connecticut. Mean Streets, the other side of the tracks in Greenwich. Okay. Seaton. Oh, boy.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

That really changes things, doesn't it? I think he has had a job. I think it was more like working at someone's store. Store. Okay. Marvin, the great one, worked at a car dealership. Car dealership. All right, Paul, we go real specific.

[Todd Fritz]

When he's young, a caddy in Greenwich. And when he was in college, probably.

[Dan Patrick]

Like an internship with a hedge fund or something, I'm going to say probably had a paper route. And I'm going to say that he worked. I'm going to say he worked for his father, Steve.

[Todd Fritz]

All right, so the Young family had the famous paper route. I started it for years. That was when we were little. That doesn't really count. But I'm giving you the credit for it because I gotta tell you the story that my brother, the worst day of the paper route was when he had to go collect the money and knock on the door and ask for the $30 for the Greenwich Times, you know, as a pain. And one day my brother told my mom, like, I'm not doing it. I'm not. She got so sick of it. And this is great, like story where my mom punches my brother as hard as she could and puts him back against the wall. And we laugh about it today that my mom, who is the greatest peacemaker of all time, who would never like her to flee somehow got so enraged because my brother would not go collect for the Greenwich Times, she punched him. So, anyway, I was in high school and in college, I worked all summers with landscape company Bucky Lanzarone man in Greenwich, Connecticut. And I ran a whole truck of guys. And. And the funny thing about Greenwich is you pull up to these big places, these big estates, you know, to go cut their lawn, and all the mom's like, come inside. The landscapers are here. We don't want to mix company. And I was like, you know, it was. It was rough and tumble back then. That's. That was my job. The hedge fund thing is great. Yeah, that works. Sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. If you're Aaron Rodgers, I'm going to make you Aaron Rodgers, and I'm going to give you the opportunity for Pittsburgh in New York with maybe the possibility of the Vikings. What would you do?

[Todd Fritz]

I'd sprint to the Vikings if possible. I'm. You know why Sam would leave a place where he knows he's gonna thrive? Maybe because they had to. They told him he didn't have a spot. But you've got to find Dan in today's game. You've got to find a place where someone has left Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, or Andy Reid and understands the new kind of run to the future that is necessary to be great for quarterbacks, and then you got to run to those teams. And that's what Sam found in San Francisco briefly as a backup and that as a starter in Minnesota. So I'd run McConnell as fast as any of. Because that's what you. If you're going to have. If you're going to thrive in today's game, especially with what all that. Aaron knows. He was. He was born and raised in a more sophisticated era of the NFL. He could take advantage of it. That's why Tom Brady, I think we've talked about this before, towards the end of his career, ran into him in a Monday night game, and I go, what's the difference between the old. Before the rule changes and now he goes, well, now the flats are always open, the middle of the field is unpatrolled, and no one can hit me. And so Aaron understands that, like, that's why people can play in their 40s, because we know we learned in a more sophisticated time. So get to a place that understands the future and go dominate. I don't look, that's. To me, that's an obvious one. If that's a chance, okay.

[Dan Patrick]

But does Pittsburgh make sense for him? If they want Him. No.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. To go win some games. Yeah, but they're not built. They don't. They have not run to the future as far as the quarterback position. And those are the teams that are in the super bowl every year. They're in the championship game every year. They're. They go deep in the playoffs. And so I would say, yeah, go on with your bad stuff. If you don't want to play, you know, you don't want to retire. I'm not. I'm not done. Look at playing. Playing Pittsburgh's amazing. I mean, it's. You know, they're going to win a lot of games. They always do, and he can help them win more. But I just. I think the way I see the game today, the way the NFL is built, you know, you got, you know, New York Giants. No, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but are the Eagles in that same blueprint that you're talking about? Because.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. Look, Dan, I know you're trying to trick me here and try to catch me on my. My little theory. Yes. Because they have a quarterback that's still, you know, is going to threaten the line of scrimmage every play. They've got a unique way to run the football, just like the 49ers did, and I give them credit for that. But the idea that you're now going to go win Super Bowls by playing great defense in a running game is just not the way that it's going to get done. You have a very dynamic quarterback position, which they do have, and I think that's where they are, a team of the future in that way. They have a unique way to do it with Saquon, which I give them as an anomaly. But, you know, the idea that today's game, you can throw together a number one defense and a great running game and go win the super bowl, doesn't happen.

[Dan Patrick]

But if I gave you Saquon Barkley or Justin Jefferson.

[Todd Fritz]

These stupid bar fights, like, you know. Yeah, I. In today's game, Justin Jefferson, with a great, innovative offensive mind and a quarterback that understands the position that can really thrive. Those are the guys that go. So I'd go that way.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you call it a stupid bar fight? That. Well, that's what is going on. This is what I do for a living.

[Todd Fritz]

I know, but sometimes you just gotta. You gotta admire and just stand back and just say, look, people are great, and I don't want to have to pick, you know, you know how hard it is to be great, and then you want to pick between great, like, I don't know, so it's. It's a bar fight.

[Dan Patrick]

It's just a fun philosophical question. As a quarterback, who do you want? The guy right behind.

[Todd Fritz]

Let's. Let's do more of it. Let's what? What can we talk about? Muhammad Ali versus what do you want to do?

[Dan Patrick]

You call it Better quarterback, you or Montana?

[Todd Fritz]

See, I knew you. I didn't even have to. I was just sitting here going, I know he's going, so just listen.

[Dan Patrick]

You made me do that.

[Todd Fritz]

Let's do it. I was headed to mom and Ali. I was trying to get you off track.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you get a Christmas card from Joe Montana's family?

[Todd Fritz]

No, but I don't. I mean, look, don't try to. We never fought. We didn't. We never had a fight. We never had a disagreement. We never.

[Dan Patrick]

I just asked about a Christmas card.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, no, I'm just trying to say I'm trying to get ahead of you now because I was trying to get you off, but now I'm trying to get ahead of you.

[Dan Patrick]

Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, joining us on the show. You are on record, I think, beginning of February, where you talked about the Niners need to make or not make, maybe. That sounds strong. Brock Purdy, take advantage of his legs. He's not Jaden Daniels, but I think your quote was he could be 80% of Jaden Daniels. You truly believe that?

[Todd Fritz]

I do. I think he's nifty. Right. He's got. You saw him in the pocket. He can move around. He can carry the football out of the huddle. Look, I don't want to go back over it again, but because the field is. Has gotten bigger, essentially because of the rule changes, you can't launch your body at defenders, can't patrol the field as well as they can. It's, it's. The game is quarterback position has to threaten the line of scrimmage every play. They don't need to go do it, but the threat needs to be there. It's too powerful. And the players that, the quarterbacks that are doing that every play are the ones that are thriving. And so for Brock, he can threaten the line of scrimmage essentially as fast or as strong or all the stuff that other guys do, but he can do it. And I think you have to lead into it because if you don't threaten the line of scrimmage, all you're going to do is be a processing, a phenomenal processing quarterback, and every play is out of the huddle and we're going to just complete lots of passes, then you're going to have to go the retail way, right? We have to go the long way. In today's game, there's shortcuts everywhere, and you got to take advantage of them. And, and, and so I think he can do more of that. And I think that. And as they try to iterate. Look, when the world changes happened, there was three guys that ran to the future. Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay. And every coach that come out that's been thriving in the NFL has come from those guys. And they've all kind of. They had a tactical advantage for six, seven, eight years. That tactical advantage is gone now. There's too many guys out there teaching the same thing. So there's got to be a new iteration of it, a new, you know, kind of reinvent yourself. And so for Kyle and Brock, to me, it's leaning into threatening the line of scrimmage with him carrying the football. I know that sounds scary to people and that's how he gets hurt and all that kind of stuff, but in today's game, you have to do it. Or if you're going to be championship football.

[Dan Patrick]

If you look at the amount of money that the quarterbacks make and they defer, you know, they restructure their deals, at what point do you think a quarterback should have a say in what is done with the money that they're freeing up? Like Mahomes, Josh Allen, should they be able to have input in free agency?

[Todd Fritz]

Look, given enough time, in a million years, all sports leagues will be owned by the players, right? Because they're the ones that are on the field. They'll be the equity owners. It's inevitable. Over a million years. It's just that football is going to be a really long time. But I think that in that sense, players, especially the ones that you've invested to be the, you know, the pillars of your. Of your. Of your team, should be included, should be included in those personnel conversations, should be included in the draft. The biggest mistake. And I told Aaron, Rod, I told Tom, I took. I told anyone I could that the biggest mistake I made was not. Look, I don't want to say that I did want to do unnatural things and walk in and tell him, you better draft that guy or you better take care of me or you better. No, but I wish that I would have gone into the, into the room and had a say and had the conversation and talked through it and tried to make sure that we were, you know, as a, as a quarterback, trying to advocate for what felt like we needed to try to take care of. And I am, I encourage players to do it with the right spirit, with the right, you know, the way to do it with tactically that's appropriate and that kind of thing. But, but absolutely, Dan, if you're going to do a quarterback, you know, team friendly deal over many, many years, you bet you got to tell me that you're going to be part of those conversations. Absolutely.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you can only imagine what Aaron Rodgers felt when he's watching the draft and they decide to take Jordan Love and they gave him a five minute heads up.

[Todd Fritz]

There's, there's tough moments. Look, I'm not, I'm not even trying to avoid that or like, oh, don't I, you know, I'm going to go and advocate. You better not do. I'm not talking about threatening. What I'm trying to do is, is build a partnership in personnel because what I, what my experience was, and I'm sure it's still the same, we watched every play, every draft class come in the first ota and we as players, we all look at the guys that they drafted like, you know, he's pretty good or oh, he sucks, you know, right away. And like, as players, if we have that sense in 15 minutes, I'm overstating it, but in a very short amount of time, why would we not be invited in to at least give an opinion about what we see in a certain player, a certain thing. I can think of Gino Kamazi or I mean, like we had lots of draft guys at quarterback. Like, what you maybe let me work the guy out. Why wouldn't you have the quarterback? Like, that's, to me, that's a big mistake that the league continues to make and not, you know, kind of getting the opinion of the players that are on the field.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know how much you solve Shador Sanders the past two seasons, but it feels like, you know, we get to this point of leading up to the draft and then you start to get opinions like we build you up and then we tear you down. And it, and it certainly happens at that position. And I don't know how much of a role or factor in Deion Sanders with Shador Sanders or maybe teams are, you know, saying negative things so he'll slide a little bit, which I always find amazing, that, wow, we're not going to take him now. They said, you know, some bad things about him. What do you think of Shador Sanders as an NFL quarterback?

[Todd Fritz]

I feel like we better talk about Dion For a second, because it's so much a part of the conversation. And I think I've read I shared this with you, but if I haven't, I'll do it really quick. When he joined the 49ers, he pulled me aside and said, steve, I am the best teammate you'll ever have. I show up every day. I'm ready to practice, I'm ready to play. I'll always be there, and I have your back. That's set. Now, the rest of it is a parade that I want you to just get some popcorn and enjoy because it's going to be a good time, you know, and it's exactly what he did. So I take that. And it's exactly who he was and who I think he is. Today there's a parade and get your popcorn and enjoy the parade. I think chadur is part of that same philosophy, right? It's like there's a parade, enjoy, and popcorn, everything. But is he ready to play football? Is he going to do the hard work? Is he going to be in the classroom studying and memorizing and getting ready to. I think those are all things that his dad would say, hey, buddy, you better be ready to play ball. And so in that way, I'm not going to listen to the noise. I think that, sure, it's going to be a. The question is about the pure, raw talent. It's not going to be about his work ethic, his ability to, you know, put the time in to all that kind of stuff. I have no. I have no worries about that.

[Dan Patrick]

But, you know, we used to say you had to be six, four. You know, we're looking for that guy who's six, four, six.

[Todd Fritz]

The prototype. Dan was in the pocket delivering the football. That was because the game was different. The game is now. Like, if you. How many teams are still in the past, like, it is now a time where the quarterback has to leave the huddle every day down with a threat to attack the line of scrimmage and make the defense worry they're going to get free first downs and free touchdowns and every great quarterback. Today, the prototype is a guy that can run around, throw it all over the field, but yet can still do the traditional job of sitting in the pocket delivering the football. That's the. That's Patrick Mahomes. That's the guy. And Shador, he definitely fits the prototype. It might not be size and weight exactly, but absolutely a prototype kind of player.

[Dan Patrick]

Give me the guy, the guy who was successful as a quarterback. Where you go, it didn't make sense, but he. He made it work. Like, Drew Brees always amazed me because I go, yeah, how. How does he do this? And, you know, he was. Always had his head up. I mean, he was always looking downfield, always. But is there somebody that you played with or against? And you go, I don't know how he does it, because it's just at his size, it's unique.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, yeah. I mean, when I. When I met Russell Wilson and I was like, oh, my gosh, that dude. I mean, I didn't realize how much taller I was. That made me feel good. Like, I was like, but it's anyone. But I. I admire people that are shorter, that can play the game because, you know, there is the element of, you know, kind of visibility.

[Dan Patrick]

But Drew Brees doesn't make sense because he's not fast, he's not quick. But he.

[Todd Fritz]

But he.

[Dan Patrick]

But.

[Todd Fritz]

But he lived in. He lived in an era where processing was the king.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay?

[Todd Fritz]

It was the only king. And in today's game, processing is vital, but it's not all you have to have. You have to have the ability to run around, threaten the line of scrimmage. That's what I'm trying to tell you is it's different. If you talk about a player that stood in one place his whole career, back in the prototype days, a previous prototype, I don't know that that person would thrive in today's game. It's just that different.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you be a Hall of Famer in today's game?

[Todd Fritz]

This is. Dan, come on. This is my game. I mean, I was an oddity back in the day. I was the guy that was like, oh, he's a scrambler. Yeah. You know, Bill Walsh was the only one that I remember, and luckily I was close to him that looked at me in the eye and said, look, because you can run, you're going to be better. I believe it makes you more powerful. It makes you like. The other one else was like, this is an oddity. Tie his legs up. You can't move. It's stupid. We don't need any. This crazy, scrambling, crazy guy. Like, I was. I was absolutely an oddity in today's game. It is. I am. I am the prototype, Dad. I am. I'm ready to go. Just give me a call and I'll.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you better than Lamar Jackson in today's game?

[Todd Fritz]

Well, no, it's still. What is. Okay, here we go. You can't help but. Can you just. It's like. It's like you're drawing Like a, like a fly to the, to the.

[Dan Patrick]

Why are you, you're fired up today. Like you, I don't know, you make me want to test you a little bit here. I mean, that's all I, I would.

[Todd Fritz]

Say while we're on with Lamar, you know, he's one of my favorites and I think he is the absolute prototype and his, his greatness is not still yet found because he hasn't found the to be great. You need lots of help, innovative minds and offense today with lots of talent around you that can run all over the field like they're getting closer. Beldemar finally capitulated a couple years ago and said, okay, we're in, we're going to get out of this sophisticated running game. We're going to come, we're commit, we're going to get you some, some, some, you know, offensive minds that are going to help you thrive as a quarterback. And if, and get some talent out of the wide receiver and really kind of down. They're halfway. They're 60% of the way there. Of who Lamar Jackson could be. And if you want to compare, he's. If we raced what my peak and his peak, he's quicker. There's no doubt, man. He can make people miss. I can make people miss, but not like him. But if we raced. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

You mean like a forty or a hundred?

[Todd Fritz]

I think like a forty or even a thirty, you know, I mean like Ray, like top end speed, you know, I mean, I don't know. We'll see.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd Fritz]

I was, I was sneaky. I was sneaky. I ran down a lot of Interceptors and then I cleaned up my mess. I know, I, I look, have Todd look it up. No one ever. I pick six was unheard of with me. Never.

[Dan Patrick]

Who would be?

[Todd Fritz]

I was cleaning it up and I could chase them down and I dragged down a lot of gas.

[Dan Patrick]

Who would be better at delivering papers? Who would be faster, you or Lamar Jackson?

[Todd Fritz]

It'd be tight, man, it'd be close. Because if a collection day, then you.

[Dan Patrick]

Got to bring your mom, who knows?

[Todd Fritz]

You can't get people at the door, the kid can't find his mom, they don't have the money. I mean, it could get really up.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope I didn't set the tone for your day or ruin your day because, you know, it's early.

[Todd Fritz]

This is therapy for me, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay?

[Todd Fritz]

No one wants to talk football at my house.

[Dan Patrick]

This is like you're surrounded by women.

[Todd Fritz]

I know, it's just they love, they love the game because they, you know, like Taylor Swift said it was okay.

[Dan Patrick]

So they're like, yes, Todd, Steve Young during his NFL career.

[Todd Fritz]

No, Todd, no, no, no. You're not going to want the number and find out if there was a pick six.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm not doing that, Todd. I have the number of pick sixes. I thought that's what we wanted. We need. No, we need. He brought it up. What is it? 11 interceptions returned for touchdowns. Wow. Wow. Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

It's impossible.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

That is impossible. You know what? That's what scares me a little bit, Dan, is that when you live in your own little private Idaho and you think, you know what this is, how great you were.

[Dan Patrick]

Great until you got on this call. We got Todd over in the corner.

[Todd Fritz]

It just wants to just, you know, tear you down.

[Dan Patrick]

Out of 139 interceptions, Todd, can you see how many Montana threw pick sixes here? We gotta go. We have to go.

[Todd Fritz]

That's the best.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, buddy. That's Steve Young. Back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Health Beauty, Tarang Amin. The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail. I'm sitting down with legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my life. We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stephane Bonsell, CEO of Moderna. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the.

[Dan Patrick]

Podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. Join me every week as I tell.

[Todd Fritz]

Some of the most enthralling true Crime.

[Dan Patrick]

Stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm Mark Seal.

[Dan Patrick]

And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really the first interview I've done in bed. We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said we're finished. This is over. Not only is not going to work.

[Todd Fritz]

You got to get rid of those guys.

[Dan Patrick]

It's disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns.

[Todd Fritz]

In combat boots and wild haired priests.

[Dan Patrick]

Trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious. Somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all the their neighbors and said to them do.

[Todd Fritz]

You think these people are good Americans?

[Dan Patrick]

It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century and the God damnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my.

[Todd Fritz]

Thought was this is the most important.

[Dan Patrick]

Phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean Brendan, it was divine intervention. Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

Hey, this is Mel Reid, LPGA Tour winner and six time ladies European tour.

[Dan Patrick]

Winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC sports reporter and host. You forgot to say all my Miss America by the way.

[Todd Fritz]

And we've got a new podcast Quiet please.

[Dan Patrick]

With Mel and Kira. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their.

[Todd Fritz]

Superpower or just people we like, plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for.

[Dan Patrick]

The dads, Brads and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baliotis.

[Todd Fritz]

So if you want to keep up.

[Dan Patrick]

With us and here is yap, tune.

[Todd Fritz]

Into our new podcast Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart.

[Dan Patrick]

Women'S sports production in partnership with Deep.

[Todd Fritz]

Blue Sports and Entertainment.

[Dan Patrick]

You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Last call for phone calls. What we learned what's in store for tomorrow? I just went out to the kitchen and I was overseeing the making of the pies. Well, I think we have blueberry pies with whipped cream, one for Fritzi and one for a Marvin that'll be coming up here towards the end of the show. Have that for you. Let me see. David in Iowa. Hi Dave. What's on your mind today? ADP say I think with regard to your last day and I think we're.

[Todd Fritz]

All assuming you're going to go through the super bowl here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I really want you to rethink or consider not coming back from Monday. Recap. The only reason I say that is that's what most shows would do. They feel the need to do that. But let's admit it, you guys aren't most shows and I see a very Seinfeld esque send off on Friday with kind of the show dissolving and the.

[Todd Fritz]

Audience wants more but they're just not.

[Dan Patrick]

Going to get it.

[Todd Fritz]

Everyone walks their separate ways and Paulie.

[Dan Patrick]

Standard, they're saying see ya. All right. Well, thank you, Dave. Chris in Kentucky. Hi Chris. Hey Dan. 510195.

[Todd Fritz]

Dan, it's not that I don't want your show to extend, but since.

[Dan Patrick]

I've been listening to you back to the mothership days, you stated that the last show would be the stove, the show that you told all the stories that you normally couldn't tell. The tell all show.

[Todd Fritz]

I think that's going to be hard to do if you've got guests that you get. You've got to tell these stories from right in the Super Bowl. I mean do we want a longer.

[Dan Patrick]

Show, more DP or the last biggest epic show of DP of all time. Well, we have time to think about that. I got to decide if I want to extend to that super bowl in Atlanta. 2028. Yes. Marvin.

[Todd Fritz]

Do we do, like, a big theater show sometimes at the end of the year? At the end of the show?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

And just tell all your stories right then and there?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's probably what we'll do this day in sports history.

[Todd Fritz]

A quick one.

[Dan Patrick]

Bobby Thompson of the Braves broke his ankle sliding to the base during spring training. He was replaced with a rookie named Hank Aaron. Yeah. What did he ever do? Yeah, that's it. All right, let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Todd, what'd you learn today? I think I learned that Steve Young had four and Joe Montana had six career pick sixes.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm getting different things from Pro Football.

[Dan Patrick]

Reference and another story that I was looking at. I thought you said 11. Said 11, which is a number that keeps haunting. Yeah. Why do you keep saying 11? You screwed up his baseball career 0.32%. As far as pick sixes, Steve Young's got among the lowest of pick sixes. What did I learn today?

[Todd Fritz]

Steve Young's mom punched his brother when they were younger because he refused to.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

101 free agents will have it covered.

[Dan Patrick]

For you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbanks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Todd Fritz]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly.

[Dan Patrick]

And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Todd Fritz]

Julius prick pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. This podcast is based on my co host Mark Seals best selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with frequent Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

And six time Ladies European Tour winner.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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