Hour 3 – Met Gala Madness, Reggie Miller

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 3 – Met Gala Madness, Reggie Miller

Date: May 5, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

The third hour of The Dan Patrick Show delivers Dan’s signature blend of sports commentary, humor, and pop culture banter. This episode’s main focus zigzags between the curious social circus of the Met Gala (and Ben Stiller’s prioritizing it over the Knicks), inside stories on celebrity encounters, and a deep, insightful NBA playoff discussion with Hall of Famer Reggie Miller. The tone is informal, good-natured, and sprinkled with the crew’s playful ribbing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Met Gala Madness, Ben Stiller, and Knicks Fandom

(03:24–06:12)

• Poll Results:

  • Knicks fans: 57% are “trying not to think about the finals," 43% are optimistic.
  • Ben Stiller gets flak for Met Gala attendance over the Knicks’ playoff game: 72% say it's “weak.”

• Dan’s Take on Ben Stiller at the Met Gala:

  • Dan doesn’t fault Stiller for honoring his Met Gala commitment but criticizes him for playing up to the cameras and neglecting to help his wife up the stairs, leaving a stranger to assist.
    • “He is playing to the cameras, the paparazzi, talking about the Knicks are going to win in six. He’s not even helping his wife up the steps… That’s where I have a problem.” — Dan Patrick (04:01)

• Met Gala Curiosity and Mockery

  • The guys rib on fashion culture, what really happens inside, and whether any “Devil Wears Prada” stars appeared (they did: Anne Hathaway, Stanley Tucci, Emily Blunt – 05:46).

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2. Star Encounters & Behind-the-Scenes Hollywood

(06:10–11:17)

• Celebrities at Met Gala & Beyond:

  • Athletes like Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Russell Wilson, and others mentioned among fashion’s elite.
  • Dan recounts stories of sitting at the “kids’ tables” during film shoots, seeing the likes of Vanilla Ice, Susan Sarandon, Tom Brady, and others.

• Susan Sarandon Story:

  • She barely acknowledged Dan on set, making for an awkward, starstruck moment — “She had no idea who we were. And you know what? She didn’t care who we were either.” (08:10)

• Small Talk with Katie Holmes:

  • Dan shares memories of Holmes becoming much friendlier after Tom Cruise left the set. She even baked cookies for Dan — “We were just chatting like two girlfriends.” (09:53)

• Inside Jokes:

  • A running bit about colleague Marvin spinning Michelle Smallman around more enthusiastically than he did his own wife at their wedding (10:08–11:17).

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3. College Sports Finances and Olympic Sports At Risk

(11:44–12:51)

• Dan breaks big news:
  • “Top schools in football will be trending towards $50 million this year. Basketball, top programs may near $30 million for just one year. This is before regulation comes in… We’re losing Olympic sports…”
  • Focus on the fallout: non-revenue sports (tennis, field hockey, swimming) get cut as schools pour resources into football and basketball.

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4. Listener Calls: Show’s Final Gifts and The “Toddcast”

(12:51–15:50)

• Caller Jack’s Gift Suggestion: Dan is prompted to gift his crew parting gifts like quarterbacks buy for their offensive linemen.

  • Dan’s response: “No, I’m not buying them anything. I gave them life. I birthed them, gave them careers.” (13:24)
  • Jokes ensue about what gifts would be appropriate—ATVs, scooters, etc.

• Caller on the “Toddcast”:

  • New listeners discover Todd’s wild side, especially odd details like his love for soap, and the rough state of public restrooms on Metro North.

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5. NBA Playoffs Deep Dive with Reggie Miller

(19:46–40:06)

Lakers vs. Thunder: Do the Lakers Have a Chance?

• Dan: “I don’t like when people say the Lakers have no chance. They are on the floor. They have a chance.”
• Reggie: “It’s a tall order. Average margin of victory in the regular season was 29 for the Thunder… Lakers have to play a perfect series: no turnovers, high efficiency shooting, must rebound.” (20:00–21:30)

Who Benefits Most From a Championship This Year?

• Reggie: “Jalen Brunson… For how the Knicks are playing, it’s between them and the Thunder. Two most connected teams.” (21:38–22:44)
• Debate on whose legacy changes most: Brunson vs. SGA (Thunder), Wemby (Spurs), Anthony Edwards (Timberwolves), LeBron.

LeBron’s Legacy with a Fifth Title

• Reggie: “If LeBron wins going through the Thunder, then Knicks, he’s the GOAT for some. That makes a case.” (23:02–23:53)
• Dan: “The greatest and the best are two different things… LeBron can have the best resume. Michael Jordan is the best player I’ve ever seen.” (24:46)

Celtics’ Offensive Issues & Jaylen Brown’s “Agenda” Comments

• Reggie: “No agenda. The Celtics lost because they refused to diversify their offense. All they did was chuck threes… Playoff basketball, you’ve got to have a midrange game.” (27:20–29:06)

Working Referees: The Subtle Art

• Reggie: “Before jump ball, you set a rapport—‘How’s your family?’ During a timeout: ‘Hey, watch this, he’s holding me down low…’ Never show up an official in front of 20,000.” (30:09–30:56)

Draymond Green vs. Carmelo: Chips or Stats?

• Draymond Green’s complaint about Steve Kerr not running plays for him is debated.
• Reggie: “It’s all about the chips. Draymond has four of them… Both are Hall of Famers, but one drank bub four times.” (34:34)

Jordan’s Farewell and Gift Snub

• Dan: “When Jordan retired with the Wizards, Wes Unseld asked the locker room to chip in for a gift: everybody said no.” (36:10–37:04)
• Adds to MJ’s “a-hole” legend: “Doesn’t that kind of add to the legacy of MJ being an A-hole? Even his own teammates!” — Reggie (37:04)

Memorable Anecdotes

• Dan’s story of going to an all-black lounge in Indy with Reggie and dancing the Soul Train line, hoping someone would recognize him:
  • “Someone better recognize me here soon… And then they did the Soul Train dance — I had to do the pony down the line.” (38:29–39:51)
  • Reggie: “Naptown loves you, Theodore. We always have and we always will.” (39:51)

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6. Final Calls & Reflections

(45:40–49:39)

• Listener Q&A:

  • Dan insists retirement isn’t driven by changes in sports media – streaming, NIL, or gambling – but personal timing.
  • Dream interview wish list: Another sit-down with Michael Jordan or a candid LeBron James interview. “Tiger’s not a good interview… Jordan would be great, because he’s willing to have fun…” (47:18)

• Crew Wrap-Up:

  • Lighthearted jabs about who learned what (“Reggie would take Draymond Green’s career over Carmelo Anthony’s”).
  • More reminiscing about NBA player attitude and Dan’s own campus basketball prowess (“I was the third best player on the campus of the University of Dayton”). (44:32–45:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Patrick, on Ben Stiller at the Met Gala:
  “He is playing to the cameras, the paparazzi… meanwhile, she’s walking up the steps needing help because of the dress that she’s wearing. That’s where I have a problem.” (04:01)

• Reggie Miller, on title impact:
  “You can make a case if LeBron wins a chip this year… he is the GOAT at five chips with three different teams. That’s pretty remarkable.” (23:15)

• Dan Patrick, on MJ vs. LeBron:
  “LeBron’s resume is unapproachable… But if you said, ‘who’s the greatest player you ever saw?’ It’s Mike.” (24:46)

• Reggie Miller, on Draymond Green:
  “It’s all about the chips. And Draymond has four of them.” (34:34)

• Dan Patrick, on being snubbed in the Indy bar:
  “Somebody better recognize me here soon… I’m on SportsCenter!” (38:40)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Met Gala/Ben Stiller rundown:
  03:24–06:12

• Celebrity encounters, Tom Brady, Susan Sarandon stories:
  06:10–11:17

• College sports financial future / Olympic sports risk:
  11:44–12:51

• NBA talk with Reggie Miller – Playoffs, LeBron legacy, Draymond, Celtics:
  19:46–40:06

• Retirement and dream interviews:
  45:40–47:18

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Flow & Takeaway

The episode captures the full flavor of The Dan Patrick Show: topical sports chat, playful crew dialogue, and real insider perspective from guests like Reggie Miller. Listeners get a candid look at NBA playoff matchups, legacy debates, and the intersection of sports and celebrity culture. Whether riffing on Ben Stiller’s Met Gala etiquette, sharing NBA war stories, or dissecting LeBron’s place in history, the hour blends substance and laughs in equal measure. Even for podcast newcomers, this episode distills why Dan Patrick remains an essential daily sports listen.

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For more:

• NBA Playoffs continue tonight: Thunder vs. Lakers, 8:30 ET on NBC/Peacock
• Next episode teasers: Tim Legler to join for more NBA insight

Transcript

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[Dylan]

I will, Dan. So the last couple hours we had, if I'm a Knicks fan, I'm thinking finals, baby, or I'm trying not to think about the finals. 57% are trying not to think Ben Stiller opting for the Met Gala over Knicks game one. 72% say week 27% think it's not a big deal.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, there's I have a problem with the video of Ben Stiller with his wife arriving at the Met Gala, and I don't have any problem that he went to the Met Gala and missed Game 1 against the 76ers. This is probably something that they had planned or his wife had planned. And he's going to live up to the yes, we will go to the Met Gala. If you watch her walking up the steps, he is playing to the cameras, the paparazzi and talking about the Knicks are going to win in six. He's not even helping his wife up the steps with that long train on her dress. There's another woman in the picture who's holding his wife's hand going up the steps. He's going, yeah. Nixon sick.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Nixon six, yeah. Meanwhile, she's walking up the steps needing help because of the dress that she's wearing. Ah, that's where I have a problem with Ben Stiller. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I mean, I feel like he was probably like, you dragged me to this thing. You're on your own going up the steps.

[Dan Patrick]

It's fair. You drag me here, you drag yourself up there. I don't go to this stupid thing. I don't know what happens there, though. That's What? I'd be curious about what goes on there. I gotta find somebody who's gone there. Todd, get a hold of Kylie Jenner for me.

[Paul]

It is a very valid point because once they're all showing off their dress and everything, I have no idea. They're just all staring at each other and whispering amongst each other what ugly or wonderful thing each other's wearing. It's weird.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think they say about anything ugly.

[Paul]

I'm sure there's whispering and cattiness like,

[Dan Patrick]

I can't believe she should have been bad.

[Paul]

Even on a night like this where you're supposed to wear some crazy that was too crazy.

[Dan Patrick]

Did anybody from the Devil Wears Prada to go to it? Because I would think that would be a perfect movie advertisement product placement where Meryl Streep shows up or with Emily Blunt and with Anne Hathaway, Stanley Tucci, you know, interlocking arms. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

Right on cue, Dan. Anne Hathaway, Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt attended last night.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

I was gonna say that exact same thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right, good. Yeah. You have to let me know what you guys think of the movie. I'm not going to see it. Although I didn't like the first one. I did. I appreciate Meryl Streep. She was playing Anna Wintour. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin saw a couple athletes last night.

[Dan Patrick]

Joe Burrow was Jackson Dart there of the Giants.

[Marvin]

Justin Jefferson, Russell Wilson, obviously he's a man about town with his wife Sierra.

[Dan Patrick]

And maybe Russ is going to join the CBS press pregame show, question mark. Stay in New York.

[Marvin]

Oh, yeah. It felt like him going to the Giants. Like, you know what, this is a

[Dan Patrick]

great career move for his wife and him as well if he's going to do tv. But yeah, his wife getting opportunities, I guess, to do what she does still. When I did that movie. That's my boy. And we were at. We were in Indianapolis and that was the super bowl. And she was at the table behind us. And I remember seeing her in person. It's like, whoa, whoa. First ballad hall of Famer right there. Yikes. Who else was there? Was Vanilla Ice. Ice was there. Was Jason Sudeikis there or was it Nick Swartz's always there. Yeah. Because he helps. Well, he's in the movie too. But Vanilla Ice. I'm trying to think if there was. But they had a whole table. Why is it we didn't get to sit at their table? We were in Indianapolis at the St. Elmo's.

[Paulie]

Yeah. After the test of the movie yes.

[Dan Patrick]

And. And I just remember, like we had to sit at the kids table. We didn't get to sit at the celebrity table.

[Paulie]

I remember. Was it Tom Brady walked in with a TB12 hat and his crew later that night?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. Gas Mark.

[Marvin]

Super random, but. So my wife, for some odd reason met Susan Sarandon maybe about a week ago. She's like, oh, she was so nice. She spoke to me. I was like, she said more words to you than she said to Dan Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm in the movie with her. She's kind of in the movie with me. But it's a big prison scene. And I just remember when Sandler and Andy Samberg weren't there talking and it was just her and then it was us. She had no idea who we were. And you know what? She didn't care who we were either. It was awkward that. And she looks gorgeous. She was stunning. And I just. I didn't know what to say and so I didn't say anything. And then she didn't know what to say. She didn't say anything. And then I just turned around and started talking to the Danheads. Oh, man. You think everybody gets along on a movie set or like, you know, hey, you're hanging out with Jennifer Aniston, Nicole Kidman. No, I'm not. I'm just in a scene with them.

[Paulie]

Is not small talk.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, I'd small talk with was Tom Cruise's ex wife, Katie Holmes. He was still married to her. And the. The first day that he was there, she didn't say much. He left and she had a whole lot to say after that. She very chatty. I was in a scene with her that was cut out of the movie Jack and Jill. But she made me cookies. Made me cookies. And I'm like, okay. But very, very, you know, I think she's from Ohio. So it was like a Ohio vibe. We were just chatting like two girlfriends.

[Caller]

Yeah, you were.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, just chatting it up like Marvin does with Michelle Smallman from ESP.

[Paulie]

Growing there today.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, we see.

[Marvin]

We saw sportsmanlike people.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you were unsportsmanlike. All of a sudden, Evan Cohen and Michelle Smallman come in, the, you know, friends of the show, and they're in Pittsburgh doing their show. They came in to see our show and Marvin saw Michelle and spun her around a couple of times.

[Marvin]

Wow.

[Rich]

Dip.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my God.

[Marvin]

I didn't know. I didn't know such thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you did.

[Marvin]

Now we were excited to see one because we go back to the days at the mothership because that was her Board up when she was producing. And so I haven't seen her a while.

[Rich]

Hey.

[Marvin]

Oh, just like when you see Rich Eisen, you spun him around, too.

[Dylan]

I think Marvin baked her cookies, too.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I don't know. He didn't spin his wife around on their wedding night like he did Michelle. It's like I'm going, wow. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul Marvin was a bit of a ball hog that day.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you were.

[Paulie]

Little ball dominant.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes.

[Paulie]

Not sharing the rock.

[Dan Patrick]

You were James Harden that day.

[Alex English]

Oh, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I got so many jokes. Yeah, you were. You were. We were all waiting to say hello to, you know, Evan and Michelle. Marvin's like, oh.

[Rich]

And then.

[Paul]

Then.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, and do you remember when fake laughter.

[Marvin]

It was real laughter kind of.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Marvin]

I feel that way. Same way if I feel. See, you got me stumbling. The same way I feel about Michelle. I feel that way about, like, George Sedan. If I see him.

[Dan Patrick]

Or is it Gutierrez? No, you don't.

[Marvin]

I'll swing them around, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah,

[Dylan]

you are a swinger.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna let you off the hook. All right.

[Marvin]

Oh, are you?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Now I'm letting you off the hook. Let me get a couple of phone calls. Oh, by the way, just had a source say, hey, just to let you know that I have confirmed the top schools in football will be trending towards $50 million this year. Basketball, top programs may near $30 million for just one year. This is before regulation comes in. Like, everybody's trying to, you know, get their money. We're losing Olympic sports as well. Tennis, field hockey, swimming. Like, there's going to be sports that are kicked to the curb because every dollar that you'd be spending on those sports, you could be spending that dollar or dollars on football and basketball. But $50 million for a football roster and close to 30 million for a top basketball program. Jack. In Michigan. Good morning, Jack. What's on your mind today?

[Jack]

Hello, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi, Jack.

[Jack]

Dan, I've got a couple ideas for your final show, for some gifting options.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Jack]

The way I see the show, I think you are like the quarterback of the show. The Dan Outs are the linemen. They're doing some of the dirty work, not getting a lot of notoriety. And I think you could do like the quarterbacks do at the end of a good season, maybe get the guys.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm not buying them. No, I'm not buying them anything. I gave them life. I birthed them, gave him careers. Come on, Jack. You don't know Jack. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I mean, if there's four ATVs sitting here on the last day of the show. I'm not going to be disappointed.

[Dan Patrick]

You can't have Todd riding in an ATV.

[Dylan]

Three ATVs and a little tykes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. You know, who knows? Who knows what's going to happen? Who knows how we're going to feel about each other when we get closer? Buying gifts for my offensive lineman.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, you got to get Todd one of those old people scooters that they scoot around the malls with.

[Dan Patrick]

He's right.

[Superhuman Podcast Host]

Ready?

[Dan Patrick]

I would not. I would not have him in that either.

[Paul]

Even those are a little wobbly. I don't know if I want to go on that.

[Dylan]

A rascal, I believe.

[Dan Patrick]

Ian in Fort Wayne. Hi, Ian. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Six two, two, 15. First time, long time. Grew up with you, man. Really appreciate you and the crew. So recently started with listening to the Todd cast, I guess it would be called. And I. I started listening in reverse chronological order. So the first one I listened to is just this most recent episode. And I never knew how much Todd was holding back on the show. And I started listening to the podcast and realized how depraved he is. He's like a pinball. Pinball bouncing all over the place. One of the specific things I learned is the newest episode was Todd's love for soap, and I'll leave it at that. And then the ironic thing is I went to listen to the episode before that, and they were talking about the Metro and how Todd didn't like the Metro. And his first reason for not liking the Metro was because there's never soap in the restrooms.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Todd.

[Paul]

Yeah, they're. They're often out of, you know, the. The paper toweling or the toilet tissue, whatever you want to call it. But now that we're in dude wipes lands, I have no issues now.

[Dan Patrick]

This is the train going into New York. Yeah, the Metro North.

[Paul]

Yeah. Metro north is relatively clean. Is not graffiti and all like the New York City subway. You think of growing up, but sometimes that's not kept very well. Even on Metro north. The. There's things that could be done better. You can't lock the door very well. You hit one bump, the door opens, and there you are in all your glory. And a lot of times there's no. Can't dry your hands and there's no toilet. Toilet paper. It's just kind of left for you to replace Survivor in Metro North. Basically.

[Dan Patrick]

More of that on the Todd [e-mail] When we come back, Reggie Miller will join us after this, be sure to

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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the Enhanced Games. Some call it grotesque, others others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

[Superhuman Athlete]

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

[Superhuman Podcast Host]

Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Robert from Stuff to Blow Your Mind]

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[Paul]

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[Rich]

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[Dan Patrick]

Reggie Miller, hall of Famer, NBC lead analyst for the NBA. And he's got. What do you have? You got Oklahoma City coming up tonight

[Rich]

and the Lakers tonight, game one.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I don't like when people say the Lakers have no chance. They are, they're on the floor. There are other team. Boston doesn't have a chance. You know, there are a lot of teams that don't have a chance. The Lakers are on the floor, so they have a chance. Now how much of a chance do they have in this series?

[Rich]

Rich, look, it's a tall order and look, you could base it off their four regular season meetings, the average margin of victory for the Thunder were 29 points. Having said all that, that goes out the window because now you start oh and o. But things are going to have. They have to play a perfect series to upset the defending champions. And what I mean by that is can't turn the ball over because that is the number one thing. Okc. They put so much pressure on you defensively and they have to shoot the ball at a very high clip, especially from the Three, which they're not a great three point shooting team. And they've got to be efficient about it because the Thunder, they put so much pressure on you. They're going to have to rebound with them. But the live ball turnovers will be the story in, especially tonight, how the Thunder play defensively because they've got a number of players that love to kind of get up under you and disrupt you.

[Dan Patrick]

Who would benefit the most from winning a championship this year? Player

[Rich]

that's. That's still in this.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah,

[Rich]

I think, wow, Jalen Brunson, he was a champion at Villanova. And how the Knicks are playing right now, I think there's two teams that are so connected as these second rounds kick off. That's the Thunder, who are getting ready for game one. That first round. You could just tell, okay, we're on a mission to repeat. And the last four games for the New York Knicks, everyone thought the sky was falling when it was 1 1. When they went down 21 to Atlanta. Oh, my God. Fire Mike Brown. What is. Mikhail. Brit, what is wrong? And. And then their last four games have been spectacular. It just shows me they are so well connected at both ends of the floor. They are playing the Thunder and the Knicks are the two teams again. I like what Minnesota has done. Shorthanded. You still have San Antonio on there, but if you're talking about two teams that are so well connected, I'm going with the Knicks and the Thunder.

[Alex English]

Okay.

[Rich]

And Jalen Brunson to win that championship, you're saying.

[Dan Patrick]

So you think it would be more impactful, more important for Jalen Brunson to win a title then SGA win another one. Wemby win one. Anthony Edwards to win one.

[Rich]

These are all new.

[Dan Patrick]

LeBron to win one. What would a title now? Okay, might not happen. But if LeBron won a title this year.

[Rich]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

What would that mean?

[Rich]

Okay, look, he's always in the discussion with MJ. Correct. And Colby, to a certain extent. Kobe has five chips, LeBron has four. MJ has six. You can make a case if LeBron wanted chip this year, having to go through the Thunder, who are the defending champs? And let's just say, hypothetically, the Knicks come out of the east. And to go through New York, you can make a case he is. He is the goat at five chips with three different teams. That's pretty remarkable.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the greatest and the best are two different things.

[Rich]

Yes, totally. Two different things. The best player, in my opinion is Michael Jordan. The greatest. If you can make a case, if he was to Win. This is all. Look, he has an uphill battle, trust me. But if he was to win and have to go through OKC and then maybe Wimby and. Or Ant man to win the west and then maybe the Knicks, baby. Cade Cunningham. Yeah, that's. That's pretty great, don't you think?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I just don't think LeBron. There's people that are gatekeepers are not letting him in. They'll never, ever acknowledge that LeBron is better than Mike. And, and I say this.

[Rich]

You're saying better and best versus great.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm saying Mike is the best player.

[Rich]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

LeBron can have the best resume, and there's a difference in that. It doesn't mean that he's better than Mike. Mike didn't have the resume that LeBron. LeBron's resume is unapproachable. I mean, it's incredible what he's done and still doing it. But if you said, who's the greatest player you ever saw? It's Mike. So I don't. If LeBron wins, it's, it's, it's awesome. It'd be unbelievable story. By the way, any update on Luca coming back for the Lakers?

[Rich]

From what we're hearing, he hasn't even started on the floor scrimmaging anything like that. So certainly these first two games, he's out. I think we'll probably get more of an update next week. But here's my thing. If I'm the Thunder, knowing that, you know, Luca may, may not come back in this series, how you approach games one and two, if you put a beat down on the Lakers, Luca could probably say, you know what? I'm good. Yeah, we're not going to. But if they let the Lakers hang around, maybe still a game. Now you're giving the Lakers life. The Thunder can do themselves a huge, huge pat on the back if they come out and take care of business and set a tone in game one, they're the younger team, they're more fresh. And again, average margin of victory during the four games during the regular season or 29. You cannot give the Lakers any life.

[Dan Patrick]

I was wondering the. I like what Minnesota did bringing Anthony Edwards off the bench. I got to limit his minutes, let him kind of get acclimated. But I wonder, do you kind of stay with that for this next game and have that weapon coming off the bench as opposed to let's rush to insert him in the starting lineup?

[Rich]

Well, that'll be an Ant man decision. Look, they. They did what they've already had to do they've stolen home court? My only question was that was. Would the knee get stiff? It was a little awkward early on once he got warmed up, especially in the second half. I think his second half he was ant man. I think he was questioning a little bit of his movements early on. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You won game one with him coming off the bench. I don't know why you wouldn't just go back to that, have that pop coming off the bench and, and then you can start them once you get back home to Minnesota.

[Dan Patrick]

The Celtics with their loss. Jaylen Brown's comments saying that there's an agenda against him that he says some officials told him there's an agenda. Calling offensive fouls. Your thoughts on an agenda against Jaylen Brown?

[Rich]

Well, number one, it call names. You can't say some officials told you that. Call the officials by name because you're, you're letting that float out there. There's no agenda. The Celtics lost because they refused to dive, diversify their offense. They just lived. All they wanted to do was shoot threes. And I was saying this on the telecast. I don't mind threes. I don't mind the plethora of threes you shoot, but it's how you shoot them. If you're getting in the paint, collapsing the defense and knocking it out the shooters and they're missing, that's one thing. All the Celtics were doing would, would do a high screen and roll and chuck 30 footers. There's no, there's nothing. It's so easy to defend. And I just, it was frustrating because that's how they won a championship. But they also had a different roster at that time. You know, they had the holidays and the porzingas it was. They had better shooters as well. So there was no agenda. You guys refused to change your offense. You just thought you guys could put up 53s and win. And when you're the playoffs, as you know, Darren, you've been around this game a long time. Once the playoffs hit, you know you've got to have a mid range game. You've got to be able to make tough twos. And all the Celtics wanted to do was shoot threes and it caught up to them.

[Dan Patrick]

Can they change?

[Rich]

Absolutely, you can change, yes.

[Dan Patrick]

But are you going to put Tatum down low or Jaylen Brown down low? If they don't have a Tatum, have

[Rich]

a great mid range game. Okay. I thought a lot of his settling was because of the Achilles. He didn't have that Explosiveness that we're used to Tatum having. He wasn't able to drive and play downhill like he's used to. He was great that he was back, but I thought he settled a lot in that series as well.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Reggie Miller, Reg on the call. Tonight it's game one, Western Conference semis, 8:30 Eastern, NBC and Peacock. It'll be OKC against the LA Lakers. I'm wondering how you work a referee. How. How do you get your message to the referee without embarrassing him or having people notice? If it's before during a game, how did you do it? Or how would you recommend somebody who wants to get a message like Jaylen Brown is telling us.

[Rich]

There's a lot of ways you do this. You start even before jump ball. When you're out there warming up, both teams are doing layup lines and all that, you go to the official, hey, how are you doing? Everything good? Good to see you. And you start setting up a rapport, a friend, hey, everything good?

[Dan Patrick]

All right?

[Rich]

Family's good, right? This is a, hey, great environment. So you're setting the tone. Hey, let's have this conversation. It's not, you know, adversarial. Let's just, you know, talk about this. And then every timeout or every free throw, hey, kind of watch this. He's holding me down low. And you're trying to make it more friendly because if you show them up in front of 15, 20,000, it's not going to go your way, especially in the playoffs.

[Dan Patrick]

What do you make of Draymond Green's comments on his podcast that Steve Kerr may have hindered his career by not calling plays, offensive plays for Draymond Green?

[Rich]

Look, I know it raised a lot of eyebrows and, you know, I heard Austin Rivers and they're going back and forth. Draymond is entitled to his opinion. He's a four time champion. And if that's how he feels. Look, him and and Steve obviously have a great relationship. You know, he's been there his whole career. If he feels that, he has every right to say that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but Austin Rivers has every right to be. I mean, he played in the NBA, so why can't he say that's silly? Why would you run a play for Draymond when you have Stephen Clay and you had Kevin Durant? How did, how did Steve Kerr hinder? What was he hindering? Because if anything, he helped his career. He made him a star. He said, I'm entrusting the entire offense that goes through you. How is that hindering Draymond Green, maybe

[Rich]

poor choice of words. By saying hindering, because I don't think they. You know, people say you only won four championships because of Stephen Curry. People don't understand. You're right. The whole offense was being facilitated through Draymond Green, the way he was finding Clay and Steph. So maybe poor choice of words. I'm sure Draymond probably just wanted one or two sets.

[Sam J]

Run.

[Rich]

Run for him.

[Dan Patrick]

No. Robert Ori said the Rockets never ran a play for him.

[Rich]

And look how impactful his career was, making big shots look, being the facilitator, getting those guys off and occasionally making a three. Draymond, that was your role. And obviously the defense. People forget how great defensively he is. And for your head coach Steve Kerr to come out and say, he is the best defender I've ever seen, that's. He played with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and Dennis Rodman. For him to say that about Draymond Green, that's not hindering.

[Dan Patrick]

But if he played in Sacramento and he averaged 19 and 10, like nobody cares about Draymond Green. He became a Hall of Famer because now his abilities. But also,

[Rich]

Steve, look, he's a lightning rod. And whenever he goes on his own podcast and says these things.

[Dan Patrick]

But would you rather be. Okay, would you rather be Harvey Grant who averaged 22 a game for Washington or his brother who played for the Bulls? Horace Grant is winning championships.

[Rich]

Case in point, Mike drop. It's all about the chips. And Draymond has four of them.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you rather have Carmelo Anthony's career or Draymond Green?

[Rich]

It's all about the chips. They're both going to be hall of Famers. Mellow is a Hall of Famer already, and Draymond's going to be a Hall of Famer. One just has four rings and a defensive player of the year.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. The other one got to shoot an awful lot.

[Rich]

That was his game, though.

[Dan Patrick]

So you would take.

[Rich]

Drink a top 10 score. Carmelo is a bonafide bucket. But they're both hall of Famers at the end of the day.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Rich]

And one is gets to drink, bub. Four times.

[Dan Patrick]

Don't.

[Caller]

Don't.

[Rich]

Doesn't. To me, chips matter. They do. I know a lot of people. Chips matter. Coming from a guy who never won one, they'd matter.

[Dan Patrick]

I. I didn't bring that up.

[Rich]

But you're saying you're comparing Mello, who to me is one of the top 10, maybe certainly 15 scores our game has ever seen. He may be top 10 score this game. Has ever seen.

[Dan Patrick]

Is he a better scorer than Durant?

[Rich]

No, but he's in that conversation. Durant. Durant might be top five.

[Dan Patrick]

He's going to be on another team next year, isn't he? It's crazy when you look at Harden and Durant, two of the greatest scorers of all time. Yeah, but why do they keep bouncing around?

[Rich]

I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

Do younger players not want to play with these guys?

[Rich]

Oh, I don't. I. Look, I'm not in that Houston locker room.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, something happened in that locker room.

[Rich]

I don't think it happened in the locker room. I think it happened on one of these things.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, his burner.

[Jack]

Oh.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ever hear that story when Jordan was retiring with the Wizards and Wes Unselled went around the locker room and asked for, you know, donations to buy Mike a gift?

[Rich]

No. Keep going.

[Dan Patrick]

Everybody said no.

[Paul]

No.

[Rich]

I refuse to believe that.

[Dan Patrick]

Gilbert Arenas just confirmed it this week. Wes Unselled is on record saying that it was true. Nobody pitched in any money to get Mike a gift.

[Rich]

He was probably brow beating them.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I know he was.

[Rich]

He was probably brow beating him. Yeah, he probably was.

[Dan Patrick]

But it's still. Mike don't. I mean, the fact that nobody wanted

[Rich]

to give any money for Nobody, like all 15 guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Reg. Wes Unselled is on record as saying that was true. Gilbert Arenas, who arrived the following year, followed up on that and said nobody donated to Michael Jordan.

[Rich]

I don't think he needed a gift anyways.

[Dan Patrick]

No, but it's symbolic, though.

[Rich]

Yeah, but doesn't that kind of add to the legacy of MJ kind of being an A hole? Right, Right. Isn't that why his own teammates like Scotty and Horace and these guys when you're winning?

[Dan Patrick]

If Mike wasn't winning and he acted the way he did.

[Rich]

Oh, true.

[Dan Patrick]

The Bulls wouldn't have donated any money when. When he retired.

[Rich]

It's all fine and dandy. All the champagne is bubbling. Coming down, and you're getting your championship rings.

[Dan Patrick]

Reg will be on the call tonight. You with Mike Tirico.

[Rich]

Mike Tirico. The great Mike Tirico. Say his name right, Theodore.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait.

[Rich]

The great Mike Tirico.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm first team. All Chirico.

[Rich]

Thank you. Yes. You guys are co workers.

[Dan Patrick]

I worked with him when he got to ESPN. He was like 24. He had hair. I knew you when you had hair.

[Rich]

That is true. Yeah, Those were the days in the early 90s. Oh, we could tell some. We need to Tell some of those stories in the. In the cigar bar. You and Mark Jackson. Oh, my God.

[Dan Patrick]

God. If you guys used me as the. The final judge, you would be like, montana. No, it's Marino Holyfield. No, it's Tyson. You guys were going, rod kw who We. And then did you ever go to the Cozy Lounge in downtown Indy?

[Rich]

I'm sure I did. I probably hit every lounge.

[Dan Patrick]

This was not. It was an all black lounge, so.

[Rich]

And you were there. You were.

[Dan Patrick]

I know I did.

[Rich]

You hung with us.

[Dan Patrick]

I walked in. I walked in. I think I got grandfathered. But it's one of those, like, Animal House. When they walk in, they go, otis, my man. And then the entire club, all black patrons turned around. That's what it was. I walked in with my friend Charlie Moynihan, and everybody at the bar turned around like, what are you doing here? And so we had to go up to the bar, and finally I got up there and I'm thinking, Damn, I'm on SportsCenter. Somebody better recognize me here soon. Dude comes over to me and he says, hey, let me get you a beer. I said, yes, yes, that'd be great. And he said, hey, welcome to club. I said, all right. And then they did. They did the Soul Train where you dance. I did. I did do the pony down the Soul Train line because. Because everybody was doing it. And I go. And the guy who bought me the beer, he goes, you might want to do it. I go, oh, my God. I said, I'm gonna need a couple more beers. And then all of a sudden, I rode the pony down the Soul Train line.

[Rich]

Nat Town loves you, Theodore. Naptown loves you. We always have and we always will.

[Dan Patrick]

Reggie on the call with the great Mike Tirico tonight, 8:30 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, talk to you next week. Thanks, Red.

[Rich]

Thank you, Theodore.

[Dan Patrick]

Take a break. Back after this.

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[Alex English]

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[Alex English]

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To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all

[Dan Patrick]

day, but yeah, yeah, but just so

[Alex English]

y' all know, I mean at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

[Sam J]

We also have AIDS on the table

[Alex English]

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Yeah.

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For me it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

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[Dan Patrick]

see what their tax dollars were being used for.

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[Rich]

This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona.

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[Dan Patrick]

Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow. Tim Legler, the Mothership will join us, I believe tomorrow on the program, his ESPN NBA analyst. Good to talk to Legs again. Still embarrassed that he said he could beat me in a three point shooting contest and he would shoot left handed. And you know what? He wasn't kidding. I was embarrassed for him. I said, hey, I'm not Greg Anthony because Greg Anthony was shooting around with us. We were in Detroit and Greg Anthony was a great 15 to 18 foot shooter, kind of like Avery Johnson, but he won a three point shooter. And Legs goes, I could beat you left handed. And I had some choice words for him. And then at the end I said, hey, I'm not Greg Anthony, okay? Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, these former NBA players have a lot of attitude. A lot of

[Dan Patrick]

you'd think that they would understand, they would not be challenging me.

[Paulie]

You chose to go to radio. You could have.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I chose to be a talking hairdo. What? Marvin, you're shaking your head here.

[Marvin]

I respect your ego, but there are times when I'm just like, all right, all right. Professional and as good as you were. I met a teammate of yours when you played intramural ball with in Dayton. He said you were a real Michael Jordan on the Wizards type.

[Dan Patrick]

He. I was. I was. He did say that I was the third best player on the campus of the University of Dayton.

[Marvin]

He did.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, he did. But I was not any fun to play with or against. I. I was in it. I was whatever. I was what Reggie called Michael Jordan. If your hair isn't playing like it did in your 20s, might be time for a real comeback. The hat isn't there you go with the hat again.

[Dylan]

I'm waiting on the delivery, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Caller]

Hey, what's up, Dan? I got a few things, so keep it quick. First thing is about your retirement. Personal question. How much of this is about. It's just time for you to go and it's that point in your life Versus how much is like, streaming, gambling, and Nil infiltrating in the sport, kind of pushing you in that direction. Two, what athlete would you love to interview before you retire that you haven't linked up yet? And three, the streets are talking about and we think that Peacock should pay for Dylan to go to the Met Gala, get absolutely plastered, and we would love to see that.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. I wanted to know what happened when you get into the Met Gala. We see everybody arrive. I don't know what happens inside. So Paulie said, all right, let me check the Rolodex. And then you got a hold of Josh Duhamel, the actor who was married to Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas. Did he tell you what happens when you get in the Doors?

[Paulie]

He said he has been there and we're waiting a text back about what happens when you get inside. Any minute.

[Dan Patrick]

We don't have many minutes. No, he can't be that busy. Retiring has nothing to do with Nil or any of that. It's still good content. I mean, so that. That would not be what drives me out. What was the other thing that athlete? I think I've interviewed everybody now. I. I take another spin at Jordan, obviously, but I don't know if there's anybody. Tiger is not a good interview there. There's a lot to talk to Tiger about, but I think Tiger kind of chose not to be a good interview.

[Caller]

It.

[Dan Patrick]

If he put his mind to it, he could be a great interview, but I. I don't think he's interested in that. Jordan would be great, too, because some of those conversations we had after he was winning championships on SportsCenter were great because he made them great. He was willing to have fun, but then he just won a title. Yes, Paul, I'd love to have you

[Paulie]

do 30 minutes plus with LeBron. You were there, right when he was entering the league. You've seen it all and have him just take off the. You know, let it go.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I. I interviewed him a long, long, long time ago. I was still at the mothership, so it's probably been 20, 23 years. No, 22 years.

[Paulie]

I think we had him on around 2011. 12. Right around there.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, we did. Okay.

[Paulie]

On the radio show.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Paulie]

I gotta check. But around 11 or 12, right before Miami, I think. Or.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you sure?

[Paulie]

I'll check.

[Dan Patrick]

Because there was a Sports Illustrated cover, and it says, Dan Patrick interviews LeBron James. I have it in my office. And I would have still been at the mothership when I did that. And I've been gone, what is it, 20 years now that I've been gone from ESPN?

[Paulie]

Yeah, 19, 19.

[Dan Patrick]

So maybe it was 20, maybe 20 years ago that I interviewed LeBron. Not much has happened since then. I can't even do this day in sports history other than Ron Turcot on this day, ride Secretariat to the Kentucky Derby. That's what Paulie had. I took it from it. Todd, you learned anything today?

[Paul]

Yes. Reggie Miller would take Draymond Green's career in his four NBA titles over Carmelo Anthony's.

[Dan Patrick]

It's all about the chips, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Dan, you're no stranger to a ride on the Soul Train.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. Doing the pony. We just needed Don Cornelius. I love Don Cornelius. Former Chicago police officer, I believe. Don Cornelius. Marvin, what'd you learn?

[Marvin]

Fritz? He saw bits and pieces of the Devil Wears Prada.

[Paulie]

Paul, I have a lot of rundowns to go through.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Rich]

All?

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podcasts on the Look Back at it podcast from 1979.

[Dan Patrick]

That was a big moment for me.

[Alex English]

84 was big to me.

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I'm Sam J.

[Alex English]

And I'm Alex English.

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Each episode we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians and favorite authors like Mark Lamont hill. On the 80s, the 84 was a

[Alex English]

wild I mean, I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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