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Mike Tirico
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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.
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This Sunday night, Dodgers, Yankees heats up in the Bronx. Sunday night baseball live on NBC. And Peacock, Poll question Dylan for the final hour. And let's recap the first two hours.
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Poll Coordinator / Producer
Well, Dan, better deli Jewish or Italian? Italian, kind of idling at around 74%. And then poll question for this hour. Kind of a two part one. Who are you rooting for in the World cup final and who do you think is going to win? Are they the same?
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Dan Patrick
I think Spain's gonna win, but I'm rooting for Argentina because of Messi. You know, when we talk about the goat, you want those players to finish something. You know, Brady, you can say, hey, the goat. Yeah. Bottom line, you're winning championships. Jordan winning championships. That's what you want. And you know, when you have other players who are on a really high pedestal, it can be Brady, it can be Michael and Tiger. Like they all have admiration for Messi. Like that's pretty cool, you know, and you're watching something that's happening right now. You know, Mike's been retired for a long time. You know, Tom's not coming back, Tiger's not coming back. But you're watching Messi. He's the latest to get to this point where you go, I'd like to see him finish this off in his final World cup match. Mike Cherico, he does everything. And he's at the Open Championship in Royal Birkdale. Have you played Royal Burkdale, Mike?
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Mike Tirico
I have not played Burkdale. I've played five, six of the courses on the Rota, but not Burkedale.
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Dan Patrick
Are you allowed to play?
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Mike Tirico
Am I allowed to play? I'm sure if I really asked, I could get out to play on Monday. They usually have hospitality or TV folk or others. But I want to get back home. But yeah, I'd like to play here at some point. I'd like to take that quintessential Scottish and English and Irish golf trip. I've done so many Opens and I've never really done that trip where you go three, four days and play and do those. So I'd like to at some point.
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Dan Patrick
This is the 28th Open Championship that you've worked.
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Mike Tirico
That is correct. I am old.
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Dan Patrick
Wow.
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I'm old.
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Mike Tirico
I'm old. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Do you remember? You may not remember. This was ready to do Sports center late at night. It was like 10:45 and I'm walking over to do sports center and ESPN hadn't announced who was going to do golf. And I had been mentioned to do golf and you. So I didn't know anything about it. And I remember I'm walking over to do Sports center and one of the bosses says to me, hey, hey, come here, come here, come here. Because USA Today was going to break the news that you were going to do golf. So I'm getting ready to do an hour long live Sports center. And management goes, come here, come here, come here. I go, what? What? They go, you're not going to get the golf. They're going to give it to Mike Tirico. I said, couldn't this wait? I'm going to go do a Sports Center. So I'm doing the entire Sports center thinking about, well, I, I didn't want the golf, but I would have loved to have the golf. And I'm like, well, now I'm mad that I'm not getting it. Where before I was like, hey, that'll be great, Mike. Mike will do a great job. And I don't know if you ever heard that story.
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Mike Tirico
I think I have. I think you've told it to me at one point, but I'm glad that you've let it go. So that's.
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Dan Patrick
At least I could be there and you could be interviewing me there.
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Mike Tirico
Mike, you could be fritty. Fritty, Fritty. Pretty old question, Fritzy. You know what changed my career trajectory and changed my life and what I didn't know was what a risk it was because I didn't realize or know how demanding the golf viewers are. While smaller in numbers than the other sports. Right. Just look at the ratings. The golf viewer really has the mentality of being a member at a golf club where you speak up, you say, what's on your mind? Hey, I want this. Can we get in the grill room? Can we do this to the golf course? And the golf viewer is very particular and very loud and very vocal about what they want on their broadcast. And I didn't realize that it could have been career ending in terms of that role of doing play by play or having a lead job on other sports. So I'm glad it worked out. I was surrounded by Curtis Strange and Judy Rankin and Steve Melnick and the late Bob Rosberg and a bunch of great people. Jack Graham was our producer, Jim Jeannette was our director. They're all pros. And they all covered my butt until I figured out what I was doing. I'm very thankful for that.
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Dan Patrick
Give me the ratio of calling a live shot to something that's on tape and then sounding like you're seeing it for the first time even though it's on tape.
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Mike Tirico
So it's interesting because I've worked now in all the systems that there are. So I covered masters at ESPN. That's CBS's production. ABC and ESPN did our own production. And now it's 10 years for me with NBC. And philosophically, it's a little different on NBC. You will not hear the on course reporter unless it's a live shop. And that's just the philosophy of Tommy Roy, who's a Hall of fame producer. CBS's philosophy is different. ABC's was somewhat in between. And what you have to remember is every other sport, there's one ball and no more than 120 yards in golf. Like on a Thursday, Friday. I'm going to go sit. I'm not on the air today. I'm going to go sit in the control room for an hour today just to watch. Just to get myself reacquainted with how difficult it is. There could be 30, 35 balls moving. You have half the field on the golf course at any time. So there are about 80 players out there. So you've had 80 players and 30 balls moving at once. You have to make choices. So you do one of two things. You either continue the movie along and don't let people in, or you say, this is live and people should be smart enough to understand you can't show. Every shot lives. You say, this is earlier. You got to make a decision. Rory drives the ball. Great. You want to watch Rory hit a drive on 7? Yeah, I do. Of course I do. Well, do you want to see Scotty Scheffler's puts reverting? Yeah, I want to see that happening. At the same time. What do you do? And there's four, five, six hours of those decisions that have to be made. And it's a. It's a venture that costs money because the rna, the usga, the PGA Tour, it's a rights fee. And it's a lot to take 100 people overseas to pay them. So you gotta have commercials. So you factor all that in. I think it's the hardest sport to do on tv. And I. I'm gonna go sit inside and watch the. Watch the sausage get made for an hour just to remind me how difficult it is to do that.
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Dan Patrick
Mike Trico joining us from Royal Burkdale has Scotty Scheffler come back to earth?
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Mike Tirico
Oh, he's played really, really well. I mean, he just hasn't won. And there are years like that for players. I'd say other guys are having good years, like Matthew Fitzpatrick's having a good year. Chris Goderup's having a good year. Rory not in volume, but in quality. Every time he plays, he seems to be in the mix. Scotty had a good day one today, which has been what has held him back a little bit this year in terms of wins. I think his year has been really good. It just hasn't been incredible. And when you're spoiled by best on the tour, best on the tour, second best on the tour, a notch down is eye opening. His stats are still really good, but one thing he hasn't done is hit the ball as close to the hole as he has the last three years. If you look at the stat, that is proximity to the hole, he was best on tour in that number in all of these three years where he's been terrific. Not the best this year, still really good, but not the best. And that's why instead of winning four or five, he's won one with a good round. First round today wouldn't put it past him to be in position to win here and take the clarity back home again.
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Dan Patrick
What if the majority of the tour venues were like Royal Burkdale and there would be. And then all of a sudden they played, you know, like a pg, a PGA north or, you know, west or, you know, whatever. But because we look at this now, I love it for one week.
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Mike Tirico
Yes.
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Dan Patrick
I don't know if I could have a steady diet of playing it, but I enjoy watching it.
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Mike Tirico
I love watching it. Unfortunately, we're not going to get rain and wind. And it's the only time you say that you want rain and wind because it just adds to. Actually came over without a big old rain suit for the first time, truly in 28 years. The first time I haven't come over with two rain suits for the week and a pair of shoes that I've left, I think four or five pairs of shoes in this country because you're just not bringing them back home. They're ruined. It. It would be fascinating. I wish we could see two things in golf. I wish we could see more lynch golf like this, and I wish we could see more match play golf because I think match play is so much fun. I think a lot of people who play golf consistently at a club play match play against their friends, and I'd love to see the best in the world. Match play doesn't really work for TV very well. They're going to try it again in the new iteration of the Tour. But I would love to see just a little more of this where you really have to think your way around the golf course. Now, it's interesting to watch today's talent and today's approach play. A century old course, this is just under a century, but Bryson Dechambeau is trying to take driver and hit it over stuff. And wherever it ends up, I'll hit a pitch and try to. And try to make a putt. It's a little bit harder to do on these courses because of the bunkering, but when he does it, it's pretty cool to watch. So it's a great mental test this week of choices off the tee. How aggressive do I want to be and can I really get myself out of that trouble around the green?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I go back. Wasn't it Tiger at St. Andrews didn't put the ball in a bunker for four rounds, which is. I'd say it's impossible. But he did it. But if I, if I didn't see it, I'd say it's impossible.
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Mike Tirico
He also. I'm sorry, Dan. Another one of the Opens that he won and it was hot and fast and the fairways were brown, not green like this year. He only hit one driver the whole week. Right. So Tiger, Tiger always had that 15th club in his bag. His mind. That was a difference maker. And I think the guy who comes to this event with my game plan, I'm not going to be stuck to it. I will adjust depending on the conditions. Those are the guys who usually win here. It's not always he's the best strongest player. He's the guy who hits it the farthest. It's the mental game here because all the trouble you have to avoid.
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Dan Patrick
And I'm looking at the last eight winners of the Open Championship. By the way, when. When did we kick British? When did we kick British Open to the curb? Now people at.
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Mike Tirico
When people ask me, how long have you been doing this event? I said, well, I did it when it was the British Open. I've done it when it's the Open Championship. Now I'm doing it when it's the Open and the grade line that somebody else had. I forget who it was. So I can't give credit if I'm here long enough. We'll just call it V and be done with that, Right? So it was British until like the early 2000s. Then it was The Open Championship. And it's been the Open for the last eight or nine, I think.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. But I'm looking at the last eight weeks. Scotty Scheffler, Xander, Brian Harmon, Cam Smith, Colin Mor, Shane Lowry, Francesco Maranare and Jordan Speed. These aren't bombers.
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Mike Tirico
No, no, correct, exactly. Then that, that goes back to that point. Most of these golf courses have been around for a century, a century and a half. You can only lengthen them so much. And every time you lengthen them, you want to keep those bunkers in play. And those key bunkers are what matters. And the strategy of this event with the wind and the rain, those are the two things that end up making this event unique and special and kind of fun. I mean, they've been placed 154 times over 160 years. If you take the stretches out with the war and, and a lot of these golf courses have been around for a good part of that. That's why I think there's a different connection with the game and it's fun to be able. Look, we love, we love with quarterbacks go up and down the field and it's 42 to 40. Right. We also love when it's a great, truly great defensive battle. Different styles keep variety and enjoyment in the game. And this variety, probably more than any other makes people say, man, I'd love to try to play like that once where you can hit a four iron, it can roll. You're going to see balls roll. 50 yards. I watched somebody putt from 35 yards off the green today like that. That's just part of what you've got choices and can you take your choices and your talents and marry them? That's what makes this one. I, I love this event. I've loved it since I've covered it. And I get so excited to get on the plane and come back every year because you see really cool stuff here.
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Dan Patrick
If I said that of all the places that have held the Open Championship, you had to live part time in those towns, those cities, where would you pick and say that's where I could live for three months out of the year?
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Mike Tirico
Port Rush, Northern Ireland. Oh, yeah. Though the golf course is right next to Bushmills. You want to start there. So that would be. That's the town I, I enjoy. But if you told me three months. St. Andrews. St. Andrews is, as you know, the town's great. I mean, you know, if you go there on a Sunday afternoon, people are walking their dogs down the 18th fairway, like one of the Most famous places in the sport, 1 and 18. The game started right over in that corner, right when you're walking down there. But you're walking through the town with people. It's got a great university, one of the best universities in the uk, St. Andrews. You can walk through the cemetery. Those who like to walk through cemeteries. And old Tom Morris is buried at the cemetery in town. It just has so much history and feel in addition to the really cool restaurants. That would be the one place for three months. But if you, if you told me that we get to hang for a few weeks and go on a guys trip. Port Rush is pretty darn cool place.
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Dan Patrick
I know you probably didn't think you'd be asked this, but I'm going to ask this. Last night with the ESPYs, the team of the year. Yeah. Was the Knicks. Huh. Okay. Now Indiana football.
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Mike Tirico
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
USA Hockey.
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Mike Tirico
Yeah. USA Hockey.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Either like Indiana football. Did you ever think in your lifetime, Mike, Indiana football would win a national title?
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Mike Tirico
Well, college sports is so screwed up right now. And I won't get started on it because it's a passion point for me. But how screwed up his college sports. Michigan is the basketball champion in Indiana
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Dan Patrick
is the football champion.
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Right.
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Mike Tirico
20 years ago he told me the reverse. You say, yeah, of course they are. No, but that's, that's how screwed up things are. Yeah, that Indiana, that was a special thing. It's the New York factor. I mean, I grew up there. I love the city. But you know, if it happens in New York, Northeast media elevates New York in a different capacity. So I was on the plane coming over here. I saw the ESPYs were last night and it made me think about the first ESPYs. Were you at the first ESPYs or were you in the newsroom?
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Dan Patrick
No, I was there.
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Mike Tirico
You were there. So the group of us that were in the newsroom, the forgotten, the unwanted, the unwashed, that was one of the funniest nights of the year because the show was a bit on take delay. So we're watching it come down live and we're all sitting there going, well, we are the B team, all of us. We are the uninvited. But in all seriousness, like hat tip to ESPN for what the event has become.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Mike Tirico
And what it still means for the V Foundation. Like that, that is, that is one of the coolest things ESPN's ever done. Forget SportsCenter and all these sports and apps and all that, like ESPN's and George Bodenheimer, the president of ESPN for a long time is a huge reason behind that. The connection of the V Foundation and ESPN and the ESPYS is one of the things that is just. This kind of gives me a great feeling inside to know that we saw it, we were part of it for a little bit, but we were the unwanted and the unwashed while you guys. The big time.
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Jason Garrett
Oh, yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, we were.
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Mike Tirico
For the, for the first one. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
I didn't want to go to the ESPYs. No. No. I thought it was going to be a disaster.
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Mike Tirico
Well, I had the potential to be. Right. Because that's a very different lane for a cable sports network that was not a behemoth as it's become.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Mike Tirico
Right. And so, so credit to them for. For doing all that. Would you rather been doing the 2am with me and Myers that night? How are you? Glad you could make it for the show.
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Jason Garrett
Hi.
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Dan Patrick
Hello. And how are you? Yeah, but I'm glad I was there because I, you know, I, I was there and I. There was a lot of things that happened behind the scenes and how they got athletes to show up and. Greatest night in sports, Mike.
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Mike Tirico
For some. Yes.
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Dan Patrick
Just ask espn. Like, like cnn. We're the world's most important network. That was their thing. That was their.
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Mike Tirico
That was the best. I know.
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Dan Patrick
I'm like, damn, how did you win that? We didn't. We just named ourselves. When ESPN goes, we got the greatest night in sports. What is it? The ESPYs. I go, what?
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Mike Tirico
Okay, that was James Earl Jones who did that right. On cnn.
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Dan Patrick
This is in.
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Mike Tirico
Well, I always love radio shows when people say, we've got a great hour coming up for you. Well, do you know that. Is it all on tape? You know, it's great. What if the guest stinks? Right? Like this hour. You could have said, this is the greatest hour. I come on and it's been terrible.
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Dan Patrick
Well, you stole a job from me. But. But that's okay. Look at what it did for your career. And I'm stuck here doing this. Mike, congratulations.
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Mike Tirico
I'll bring you back a tea.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, that'd be great. That would be great.
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Mike Tirico
Thank you.
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Dan Patrick
We'll be. We'll be watching this weekend. Thank you, Mike.
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Mike Tirico
Thanks, buddy. See you, pal. Have a great week.
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Dan Patrick
Mike Tirico coverage over the weekend on NBC. And Peacock is 7am Eastern, Saturday and Sunday. You imagine management saying this to me, like, it's chaotic that I'm running over to do a live sports center. And I remember one of my bosses, because it was going to break, the story was going to break And I'd been told that I was up for the golf job. Now, Mike, far better at that than I would have been. But I remember. So here it is. You know, it's 10:53. I got to get over at 11:00 and it's about a four minute walk. So, you know, they're saying, hey, just want to let you know you're not going to get the golf on abc. I go, could this have waited? And my boss said, no, because story's gonna break. Couldn't you have told me before the story was going to break? Maybe 4:00 in the afternoon. Unbelievable. It'll be in the book that I don't write. All right. When we come back, he's got a new podcast. He is Jason Garrett, Football Night in America. He'll join us right after this.
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Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am PAC on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Mike Tirico
What are we eating?
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Carrie Brownstein
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Fred Armisen
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Carrie Brownstein
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Fred Armisen
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Carrie Brownstein
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Fred Armisen
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Dan Patrick
Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write a song.
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Fred Armisen
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Carrie Brownstein
Listen to Podlandia AO rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Dan Patrick
Great to see you again. Give me an idea of the coaches or former coaches that you're speaking to or you already spoken to.
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Jason Garrett
Yeah, we've done a lot of them already, Dan. And we did four sit down interviews with current NFL head coaches, Andy Reed, Sean Payton, Dan Campbell and Dan Quinn. And then we've done podcast interviews with Sean McDermott, Tony Dungy, Corey Close, the women's basketball coach at UCLA. Kelly Amante Hiller, the women's lacrosse coach, Northwestern. Jeff Monkin, the head football coach at Army. Trying to think, who else? Oh, Joe Girardi and Joe Madden, baseball guys. And it's just been a really fun experience talking to all these guys. You know, the podcast goes for an hour and I literally could go for three or four hours with him because I'm learning so much. And you know, you know this. The great Fred Gedelli says, enough with the platitudes. I want stories. I want reasons for the stories. And you know, we see, we spend a lot of time having them talk about their stories when they went to these different places to build their teams and what it was like and what they learned from the different experiences. So they've been incredibly generous, incredibly humble, and I've learned a lot.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Freddie Godelli, the decorated producer with Football Night in America, is there a common thread with greatness at that level?
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Jason Garrett
You know, I think at the core of it, these guys are all coaches. These men and women are all coaches, and they really want to do whatever they can to help their players be their best. How do they create that environment for them? They obviously want to build something special. They're interested in building programs, not just teams. So, you know, we go through those processes and they're all a little bit different. What I love about it is they share stories about their mentors and their experiences and their influences and what I got from this guy and what I got from that guy, what I learned from this. And that all shapes them in a very unique way. And what I loved is they're very authentic. They're very open about their experiences and very humble about their experiences. What we did well, what we didn't do very well. And I think that's probably the thing that allows them to be great because they're constantly growing tougher to get to
- [28:43]
Dan Patrick
a championship level or remain there.
- [28:47]
Jason Garrett
Great question. You know, I tried to ask the guys who've won multiple championships that question. Kelly Amante Hiller, the women's lacrosse coach at Northwestern, they've won like, nine national championships. She won two as a player at Maryland, and they won a lot early. And then there was 10 years where they didn't win, and now they've won again. And she went through that process. They won seven out of eight, and then they had a decade dry spell. And what she learned through that and what they were able to do early on, but then how she had to change as the athlete changed and maybe how she changed. So I think each of them have unique experiences. I would always argue that it's hardest to get there. Think about all the great coaches who have had built great teams in all sports that never won a championship, not unlike a great quarterback who never won a championship. So to win the first one, I think is the hardest. But there's certainly a challenge in maintaining it.
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Dan Patrick
We talked to the Seattle Seahawks head coach, Mike McDonald last week, and he said. I said, who would surprise me that you talked to leading up to the super bowl with the Patriots? He said, well, I did talk to one person with a conflict of interest. I immediately said, bill Belichick. And he said, no, I've had beers with Belichick, but no, he was not the guy. How. How normal is that, that you can reach out to somebody who may be played for a team, coached for the team that you were facing in a Super bowl or a big game?
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Jason Garrett
Well, I think what's really normal is you. You talk to people in the division that compete against that team, right? So, hey, we play the AFC east, and, you know, after the game, I talked to a friend of mine on, say, the Patriots, and we have the jets coming up. He says, hey, you know, can we visit a little bit about the Jets? You know, and they kind of give us their insight on it. I think that happens a lot. I think the thing you're describing maybe happens less frequently because if you're with a team, you've had success with a team, I don't know that you're going to be completely forthcoming unless you have an ax to grind and, you know, sometimes. Right?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Jason Garrett
And sometimes a guy gets cut or a guy gets fired, and he does have an ax to grind. And I think that probably is what precipitates those conversations. I hate these guys. They screwed me, okay. I'M going to give you all I got, you know, But I think the first one happens more, the second one probably happens less.
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Dan Patrick
And it wasn't Tom Brady, by the way. People in New England keep saying, I'm covering up for Tom Brady. I go, I know who it was, but it's not Tom Brady, okay? I don't have a relationship with Tom Brady. I can only tell you that Mike McDonald told me who it was. And it's not Tom Brady, by the way. We ran into some players out there in Tahoe and they were counting the days down. Like the dread of going to training camp. It's like, hey, you know, when's training camp start? Ah, ten days. Kyle Hamilton of the Ravens and Baker Mayfield, like, they all knew 10 days. Do coaches feel that way?
- [31:54]
Jason Garrett
Absolutely, absolutely. You get like a three or four week window in the summertime and it's like, ha, this is. Well, I'm living a normal life. But then you're getting right back into the grind and, you know, it's seven months, every minute of every day, you know, training camp for these guys. And I don't want to be the guy that says, hey, way back when, when we played. But you know, training camp isn't really training camp anymore. I mean, they got days off left and right. They practice in the morning, walk through in the afternoon, they're done by 7 o' clock at night. I mean, it's a far cry from what training camp used to be, but, you know, once you step your foot in there for the first time, you're in it. And the Super Bowls played February 14, so, you know, summertime's over, Lake Tahoe is over. All that. Hee hee. And haha with Dan Patrick, that's over.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Jason Garrett, coach to coach. Go inside the minds of top leaders in sports and explore how they build their successful teams, the organizations. You can find it on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, Podcast, wherever you get your podcast. If Vince Lombardi was coaching today, could Lombardi have the same mindset, the same coaching style he did in the 60s with Green Bay? Or does he change because he has to change?
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Jason Garrett
You know, I read a quote recently from Frank Martin, the basketball coach down in South Carolina, and he said, I'm so tired of hearing people talk about how the kids have changed. You know, who's changed? The adults have changed, we've changed. We let them do whatever the hell they want. You know, it was, it was a real rant. And you know, I agree with a little of that. I really do. I don't Know that Lombardi could be as extreme when you really think about the stories that, that, that people tell about those years he had in Green Bay. I don't know if it could be that extreme, but I always say this, and this comes up in the, in the podcast when we talk to Andy Reid. You know, I call Andy Reid a fraud. I said, you know, I think you're a fraud. And he's a great friend of mine and certainly a mentor, but, you know, he stands on the sidelines. He's kind of a fatherly figure, a grandfatherly figure, and he does the Nuggies commercials with, with Mahomes, and he dresses up like Santa Claus. But go to Andy Reid's practice and go watch. Go watch the Kansas City Chiefs practice. Shirts are tucked in, they run, they hit. He threw the GPS's away 10 years ago. He's not counting how many steps and workloads and all that stuff. They're running. They're doing long drives, 18 play, 20 play, 22 play drives in practice. It's an old school mentality. So I think that gives him an advantage. When I travel around to training camps and I see teams practice that way, I think that gives them an advantage. Now, was it to the extreme of Lombardi?
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Mike Tirico
No.
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Jason Garrett
But I do think you can still coach players tough. You can coach them hard, you can develop relationships with them. And that's one of the great takeaways from it. You know, we talk about this a lot. It's easy to be a black and white leader. Hey, I'm the hard ass or I'm the coach's player. You know, greatness comes when, you know, high standards, high accountability. But I also develop relationships with these guys. The nuance of leadership, I think that's what the best guys do.
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Dan Patrick
Before I let you go, ESPN had the quarterback list, the top quarterbacks. And I kind of view those lists as regular season. You know, that their stats if. Because, you know there's certain players that are in there and ranked high, like Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson, they don't have playoff success. If I said, let's have the list, and it comes down to this criteria. Game on the line, two minutes to go. How different is that list, in your opinion?
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Jason Garrett
I think it's different. I did something the other day with Kevin Jennings, the quarterback at smu, and he and I did an interview, and the last question he asked me was your Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks of all time. And, you know, it's one of the hardest questions there is. And there's a Lot of potholes all over the place on this one. But, you know, I just said, I'm going to be honest with you. And I went. I went Unitis. I went Montana, I went Brady, and I went Aikman. I said, you know, I'm biased because I played with Troy for eight years and we won three Super Bowls and all of that. But to your question about game on the line, you know, we're racking up stats left and right. Guys are throwing for 80,000 yards, all of that. But is that as meaningful as what Terry Bradshaw did win in four Super Bowls? Or Joe Montana leading the drive against Cincinnati? Or Troy Aikman just being impeccable in three super bowl performances? You know, Tom Brady, obviously the best of all of them. So, you know, those big moments, that's when those guys get measured. And, you know, I think it applies to other positions, too. Lyn Swann, what does he have, 400 catches?
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Dan Patrick
Lesson.
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Jason Garrett
That's. Yeah, that's, that's, that's. That's two years for two and a half years for guys these days. Right. But his catches were pretty meaningful, weren't they?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Jason Garrett
Go back and see the images of Swan in the back of the end zone in the Super Bowl. So, you know, I do think those are the things that guys get measured by. And you look at the guys who have won, those are the guys that you put first. Patrick Mahomes is one for me. Right. Because he has all the other stuff. But then he's won the big game.
- [37:12]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Look, I love Josh Allen, but he's a regular season quarterback. Like, I, I have to look.
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Jason Garrett
I'd be careful of that. You know, for years they said John Elway is a regular season quarterback, but you and I both know that John Elway put that, that city of Denver on his shoulders and he carried him there. And then when they got to playing the super bowl, they weren't as good. Right?
- [37:35]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but he got to the Super Bowl. He got to the super bowl and, and he was leading drives in the playoffs. Like, you know, when you're beating Houston, you're beating the Browns, and it's John Elway who's doing that. Look, Josh Allen is probably the best quarterback in the NFL, but I'm saying, like, trying to think, like, there's Caleb. Caleb Williams is really good in the fourth quarter. He might not be a great regular season guy, but, you know, fourth quarter, he's proven to be really, really great. I think, sometimes. Yeah, go ahead.
- [38:09]
Jason Garrett
I didn't Mean to interrupt you. Let's go back 20 years. You're doing the show, and we're having the same conversation about Peyton Manning. Okay. Throws all these touchdown passes. But in the big games, you know, New England knows how to shut them down.
- [38:21]
Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Jason Garrett
Right.
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Jason Garrett
You know, and that's a story that's been a story for a long time in a lot of different sports, how the guy can't break through. The guy can't break through. The guy can't break through. He's not good enough. And then he breaks through. The circumstances around him are better, and then he's able to do that. So Josh Allen will win a Super bowl, and I believe he's going to win multiple Super Bowls, and he's knocking on the door.
- [38:43]
Dan Patrick
I know, but game on the line. I. You're not taking Josh Allen over Patrick Mahomes.
- [38:50]
Jason Garrett
I'll take a Patrick Mahomes.
- [38:52]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Wonderful. I. But I'm saying there's a different list. If I look at a game on the line and it's a playoff game, Lamar Jackson hasn't produced, until he does, I can't put him up there and go, oh, yeah, he's. He's an incredible talent, but he's like Josh Allen.
- [39:12]
Jason Garrett
Yeah. Agree with you completely. Agree with you completely. And, you know, let's go back to the greatest one that ever walked in basketball. Right. What are the conversations about Jordan, you know, through the mid late 80s. Right. Boy, the guy can score, he's incredible, whatever. But he's never won a championship until he does, until they get the team around him and the circumstances are right, and then he wins six of them. So I agree with you. I couldn't agree with you more, But
- [39:37]
Dan Patrick
Hertz was 17th on the list. But if you said game on the line and it's a playoff game, he's top five.
- [39:47]
Mike Tirico
Yeah.
- [39:48]
Jason Garrett
And he's an enigma. Because there are a lot of things you don't like about. You know, they seem inconsistent during the season. But go back and look at his performances in the super bowl, in the big games. Talk about a guy who takes a deep breath and comes up and makes plays. He's been fantastic. So you make a great point. He should be higher than 17.
- [40:08]
Dan Patrick
Good luck with the podcast. Great to talk to you again, coach.
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Jason Garrett
Thanks. You're the best, man.
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Dan Patrick
That's Jason Garrett, Football Night in America, former head coach. Coach to coach. You can find it on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. You know, I hate list, but then I end up talking about how I hate list and then talking about the list. But there's certain quarterbacks. You want them on your team. When Russell Wilson was playing at a very high level, he was in the top five for me, game on the line. He would be in my top five certain players. And yes, is Josh Allen the most talented quarterback or Lamar Jackson? Yes, probably. So you're taking Patrick Mahomes over them in the playoffs? Game on the line. You just are. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn right after this Fox
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So Kelsey Findler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii.
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Sam J
My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we.
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Mike Tirico
What are we eating?
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Ari Chambers
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Sam J
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Carrie Brownstein
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Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, Breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process.
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Fred Armisen
How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it.
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Carrie Brownstein
And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life, Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Krisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.
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Fred Armisen
Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvised not just words, but a song about.
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Dan Patrick
I thought he was gonna write. I thought you were all gonna write a song.
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Fred Armisen
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Carrie Brownstein
Listen to Podlandia. Ayo rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
What's in store tomorrow, Will Ferrell stops by and Darius Rucker. Rucker is supposed to be. That's Darius Rucker supposed to be stopping by as well. Stat of the day has been brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I've seen this drink. I've never had this drink, but the big German just gave me a can of Liquid Death and I went, okay. He goes, try it, try it. I go, the. The name kind of scares me. Liquid Death. I think they used to be like water, and then now they Branched out into other things. Dylan.
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Poll Coordinator / Producer
Yeah, it started off as just, like, canned flat water, and it was. I mean, obviously the branding worked out smashingly, but I think it was kind of designed as, like, cool can. And, like, you could be at a bar and order it, maybe if you don't drink or something like that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Because I'm not familiar with it. They don't sponsor the show. But the big Germans, like, try liquid death here. And I go, okay. Yes, Paulie.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
Yeah, I've seen this in bars for years and has kind of a German font and looks intimidating.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
And I always thought it was some type of energy drink. It turns out it started as still in sparkling water and now is a lot of different things.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's got kind of a gothic type, you know, font to it, but Liquid death. Yes. Dylan.
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Poll Coordinator / Producer
Yeah, the. The. I actually read an article about the guy who started at one time, and he basically was like, just go hard on marketing. And it paid off pretty well. It's worth over a billion dollars now.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I never got attached to any of these energy drinks. I see that a lot of people have cashed in on these energy drinks. Yes, Paul.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
I remember reading a story about Kobe Bryant years ago. I think it was body armor or one of those. And they offered him upfront money to be a spokesperson. And he was advised, take equity. And I think when they sold after his passing, I think his family got $300 million.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. Well, it's no tailgate moonshine, I'll tell you that. That's my financial ticket. Tailgate moonshine. We're gonna make millions.
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Jason Garrett
Will Ferrell tomorrow.
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Dan Patrick
Will Ferrell tomorrow.
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Jason Garrett
Let's go.
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Dan Patrick
How about this day in sports history? Paul?
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
I'll see if I could change the tone here. This is a big one. 1950, the largest crowd in sporting history. 199,000 people. They did not round up to 200,000. I respect that. They watched Uruguay defeat Brazil in the World Cup Final in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The stadium was built for this tournament. It was supposed to hold, like, 178,000 comfortably, and they estimate 199, 854. Watch the soccer match.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
The pictures are surreal. It looks like the Indy 500 with soccer in the middle.
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Dan Patrick
You gotta round up. You gotta round up to 200,000.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
I respect that.
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Dan Patrick
They don't like roundups on this date. 1970, the Reds spoil the Pirates debut in their new stadium. Well, that's karma because the Pirates copied the Cincinnati Red Stadium, and then the Phillies copied Riverfront Stadium. So, yes, they should lose. They look like ashtrays from up, up above. You know, you're looking down on the Riverfront Stadium, Three rivers, and they just look like an ashtray. But yeah, the Reds, they should have beaten the Pirates.
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Mike Tirico
Yes, Marvin, that Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, it all kind of looked the same.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Mike Tirico
Okay.
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Jason Garrett
After the Reds.
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Dan Patrick
The Reds for the first day.
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Mike Tirico
Oh, they did it first.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, they do.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
I went to a Reds game in 1989. It was so clean and nice around the stadium. I enjoyed the experience. We had high seats. It was a great experience.
- [48:38]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Let's see. On the state 1941, Joe DiMaggio goes 3 for 4. That would be his 56th consecutive game with at least one hit.
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Sam J
And.
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Dan Patrick
And then it would end after that. How many games did he go consecutively? So it stopped and then did he go like 18 games after that? 56 games. It ended. And then he started another streak, I believe. Yeah. Paulie.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
According to Baseball Digest, Joe DiMaggio began a new separate 16 game, hitting 16 game the next day.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie (Caller or Contributor)
After the one ended.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Let's go around the room, see if we learned anything. Todd, you were on fire in first hour. You cooled off dramatically. Hours two and three, if the SBs
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Mike Tirico
were held in Bloomington instead of NYC, the Hoosiers would have likely won the best team SP over the Knicks.
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Dan Patrick
Dylan, you can go inside Mount Rushmore. Yeah. There's a tour and I would encourage you to do it. Take the kids.
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Mike Tirico
Marvin, you don't wait in line for anything.
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Dan Patrick
No, especially food. Like, I'll just go down the road someplace.
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Fred Armisen
Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvised not just words, but a song.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I thought you were all going
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Jason Garrett
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I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia AO rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guest is Karen Tilton.
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Mike Tirico
You know, I did an interview and
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Jason Garrett
they're like, have you heard about this Jonas Brothers thing? And they were like, what did you think of him?
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