Hour 3 – Most Must-Win, Harassed by the Yankees

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: Most Must-Win, Harassed by the Yankees

Date: January 9, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In this lively "Meat Friday" hour, Dan and the Danettes dive into two entertaining topics at the heart of sports and pop culture: assessing the "most must-win" football games of the weekend and playing their infamous "Legacy Boost" game, where they debate which players and coaches stand the most to gain with a playoff or Super Bowl run. The conversation travels through food banter, Super Bowl betting odds, fun trivias, and memorable listener calls, all with the show’s signature blend of insight and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meat Friday & Empanada Debates (01:09–03:24)

• Dan and the team open with their traditional Meat Friday, describing the spread of hambone soup and various empanadas, leading to a humorous exploration of the differences between empanadas, quesadillas, tacos, and chimichangas.
  • Quote - Paulie (01:55): “It’s a delivery system for the meats.”
  • Seaton raves about breakfast empanadas and applauds Mexican food for its versatile “delivery systems.”
  • Paulie fact-checks (03:24): “A chimichanga is a deep fried burrito. It's more of a Tex-Mex, and it's more popular in America than in Mexico.”
• The conversation sets the playful yet informed tone for the episode.

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2. Most Must-Win Game of the Weekend (03:37–10:41)

Each Danette names their pick for the highest-pressure football game of the coming weekend, blending personal insights and wider league narratives:

• Todd (04:13): Picks Indiana vs. Oregon, framing it as a “must-win” for Indiana after a storybook but unfulfilled season.
• Seaton (04:54): “Your Buffalo Bills need to win. Sean McDermott needs to win. Josh Allen needs to win… It is now or never.”
• Marvin (05:49): Chooses the LA Rams—“the most must-win, league MVP to me, the best receiver in football, Puka Nakua, 10 point favorite.”
• Dan (08:13): Picks the Pittsburgh Steelers, emphasizing the unique local vs. national perception of Mike Tomlin’s job security—“Nationally we have not realized just how warm that seat feels to people in Pittsburgh.”
• Paulie (10:23): Cites the Philadelphia Eagles, spotlighting coach Nick Sirianni's precarious position—“If you lose in the first round at home, you now have undone your Super Bowl goodwill instantaneously.”

Notable Quote

• Dan (09:42): “If I say to Steeler fans, ‘Hey, the next 10 years you're not going to have a losing record… but you're not going to win any playoff games,' what Steeler fan is going to sign up for that, right?”

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3. Legacy Boost Game (13:31–30:14; Resumes at 18:50)

A Snake Draft game where Dan and the Danettes argue who among NFL coaches, quarterbacks, or others could most elevate their legacy with a playoff or Super Bowl win.

• Todd: “Jim Harbaugh… to take a Charger team, they were all waiting to fall flat on their butts. If he can go on a run and get… [to] a Super Bowl, Jim Harbaugh would become a really, really big deal.” (23:20)
• Seaton: Wavers between perception and legacy, settles on "CJ Stroud or Caleb Williams," ultimately choosing Caleb Williams.
• Marvin: “If Aaron Rodgers wins this next Super Bowl, it’d be very much kind of like Peyton Manning…” (24:38)
• Dan: “Jalen Hurts… that would be three Super Bowls that he's gone to, and if he wins two of them, then he's going to be a Hall of Famer.” (25:51)
• Snake Draft continues: Picks extend to Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur, Justin Herbert, and Nick Sirianni.

Notable Moments

• Friendly heckling about who’s already been picked, the necessity of a “snake draft,” and playful jabs at coaches with “in spite of” Super Bowl wins.
• Dan (28:46): “The answer is Nick Sirianni. If Nick Sirianni wins another Super Bowl, he goes back to back, Jack. He's gonna be a Hall of Famer. Yes.”

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4. Memorable Listener Calls & Callbacks (14:05–22:37, 31:13–44:18)

• Caller Chris (14:05): Dissects a controversial end-of-game non-call in football, leading Dan to ponder the difference between a Hail Mary and "intermediate Mary.”
  • Dan (14:48): “That wasn’t your traditional Hail Mary… it was an intermediate Mary.”
• Listener JJ (21:03): Gives a short “Mexican cooking lesson” clarifying empanadas and tacos.
• Other calls cover sports gambling superstitions, trivia, and fond memories about Dan’s interviews with Don Mattingly and navigating unhelpful Yankees PR people.
• Dan (40:54): Reminisces about getting interviews with Don Mattingly thanks to personal rapport rather than support from Yankees PR.

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5. Super Bowl Bet Odds – Surprise Name (06:00–07:41)

• Dan shares an odd DraftKings stat: the best odds for anytime touchdown scorer in the Super Bowl belong to Zach Charbonnet—a result met with widespread disbelief.
  • Paulie (07:22): “Can’t be right.”
  • Dan (07:36): “Early Super Bowl anytime touchdown scorer: Zach Charbonnet.”

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6. NFL Playoffs, Coaching Legacies & Hall-of-Famer Debate (10:41–30:14)

• Spirited discussion on the “legacy boost” that a Super Bowl or deep playoff run can give coaches and QBs (Tomlin, Hurts, Harbaugh, Rodgers, Sirianni, etc.).
• They examine misconceptions about multiple-ring coaches, Hall-of-Fame candidacies, and “winning in spite of” certain coaches (touch on George Seifert, Tom Coughlin, Sean Payton).
  • Dan (29:13): “How many coaches have won two Super Bowls and we go, ‘Yeah, but they won in spite of him?’”
  • Paulie recalls George Seifert as a two-time champ rarely mentioned among the coaching elite.

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7. NBA Trivia – Fastest to 10,000 Points (18:46–20:06)

• Celebrating Anthony Edwards’ milestone, Dan quizzes the group on who was youngest to 10,000 points in NBA history (LeBron, Durant, Edwards himself are top three), comparing Wilt Chamberlain’s rookie dominance.

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8. Sports Media & PR Stories (40:35–43:18)

• Dan and the Danettes share stories about being harassed or regulated by Yankees and Mets PR, and fondly recall press box antics—Dan’s father-in-law even smoked a cigarette in the Yankees dugout.

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9. What Will Be Monday’s Lead Story? (37:03–38:25)

• Panel predictions for the biggest sports storyline emerging from the football weekend, with most thinking a Bills loss would dominate headlines.
  • Dan (38:04): “If the Bills win, the Bills aren’t leading. So… you’re saying the Bills are going to lose this game? If you think that’s going to be the lead story.”

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “It’s a delivery system for the meats.” – Paulie (01:55)
• “Buffalo Bills need to win. Sean McDermott needs to win. Josh Allen needs to win. It is now or never.” – Seaton (04:54)
• “If I say to Steeler fans, ‘Hey, the next 10 years you’re not going to have a losing record… but you’re not going to win any playoff game,’ what Steeler fan is going to sign up for that?” – Dan (09:42)
• “That wasn’t your traditional Hail Mary… it was an intermediate Mary.” – Dan (14:48)
• “If Aaron Rodgers wins this next Super Bowl, it’d be very much kind of like Peyton Manning…” – Marvin (24:38)
• “The answer is Nick Sirianni. If Nick Sirianni wins another super bowl, he goes back to back, Jack. He’s gonna be a Hall of Famer.” – Dan (28:46)
• “How many coaches have won two Super Bowls, and we go, ‘Yeah, but they won in spite of him?’” – Dan (29:13)
• "Can’t be right." – Paulie (upon seeing Zach Charbonnet leads Super Bowl anytime TD odds) (07:22)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Meat Friday Empanadas & Mexican Food Banter: 01:09–03:24
• Most Must-Win Game Debate: 03:37–10:41
• Legacy Boost Snake Draft Game:
  • Start: 13:31
  • Resumes: 18:50
  • Wraps: 30:14
• Super Bowl Betting Odds (Charbonnet Shocker): 06:00–07:41
• Listener Calls & Food Trivia: 14:05–22:37
• NBA 10,000 Points Trivia: 18:50–20:06
• Coaching Legacies, Hall of Fame Talk: 25:51–30:14
• Monday Sports Story Predictions: 37:03–38:25
• Old PR & Baseball Stories: 40:35–43:18

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Episode Tone & Style

As always, the discussion is insightful yet lighthearted; Dan and the Danettes balance inside-sports analysis with listener-friendly banter and fun, never letting things get too heavy—even when weighing coaching job security or debating “all time” lists.

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For New Listeners

If you missed the show, expect a rapid-fire mix of sports analysis, locker-room debates turned Snake Draft games, fan call-ins, and laugh-out-loud asides about everything from football coaches’ legacies to the superiority of breakfast empanadas. It's a window not just into sports, but how sports fans truly talk.

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Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Seaton]

Liberty. Liberty.

[Dan Patrick]

Liberty. Liberty. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour on this meet Friday. Dan and the Danets Dan Patrick Show. Coming up, the most must win game of the weekend and more of your phone calls as well. Update our poll results. Just went out into the kitchen to survey the scene for meat Friday. Dylan doing the honors. Hambone soup. And then we have empanadas, cheeseburger empanadas. We have pork empanadas, chorizo empanadas. I'm not quite sure the difference. When I go in and get a quesadilla, an empanada and something else. What are the other ones that tacos.

[Paulie]

Quesadillas.

[Dan Patrick]

Quesadillas, yes.

[Paulie]

It's a delivery system for the meats.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. But I don't know the. If you said empanada. Those are a little bit smaller, like half moon type things.

[Paulie]

According to empanada.com Dan, it's more of a fried or baked turnover.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

And a little bit more puffy than a quesadilla or other things like that.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yes.

[Todd]

What about a chimichanga?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's another one. I, I'm not quite sure. I love Mexican food, but if you said, hey, you're gonna get a quesadilla or a chimichanga, I probably, I'm guessing What's inside? Yes. Seaton, are you up on the culinary delights?

[Seaton]

I try to be up on the culinary delights. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm still.

[Seaton]

I'm obsessed right now with a breakfast empanada is really all I can think.

[Dan Patrick]

Breakfast empanada?

[Seaton]

Yes. If we're making empanadas right now, man, you throw some eggs and maybe some potatoes in one of those jams, bake it up.

[Dan Patrick]

But didn't we have breakfast burritos earlier this week? Okay, those were delish, too.

[Seaton]

I would say Mexican food is top seed in terms of food delivery systems. A taco, a burrito, an empanada. All of them are about as perfect as they get.

[Dan Patrick]

And then you throw in a margarita and ball game.

[Seaton]

What, you got a problem with chips and salsa?

[Dan Patrick]

No, buddy. Perfect.

[Seaton]

That's perfect.

[Dan Patrick]

They're really.

[Seaton]

Culinarily speaking.

[Dan Patrick]

And some guac.

[Seaton]

Oh, dude, are you kidding?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Perfect.

[Seaton]

Yeah, like mole.

[Dan Patrick]

Nice cold beer. Yes. Paulie.

[Paulie]

Dan. Coincidentally, I'm on chimichanga.com and a chimichanga is a deep fried burrito. It's more of a Tex Mex, and it's more popular in America than in Mexico. More of a little offshoot.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, thank you. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, see what you're missing. If you don't download the app and you could watch the show while you learn. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country as well. We'll get to more phone calls coming up. Football tonight. Football last night. Football this weekend. It's time to play Most must win game of the weekend. If you do want to include tonight's game, technically, we're talking the weekend. Todd, I'll start with you. The MM W G O T W.

[Todd]

I wrote rams, crossed it out, wrote bills, crossed it out. And I am going with tonight's game with the whole story with the Heisman winner and the number one team to do all that and come up short of playing for the national title, Indiana Hoosiers must win this game tonight against Oregon.

[Dan Patrick]

Indiana favored by three and a half over under 48 and a half. Speaking of gambling, another episode of Dan Patrick Takes a Gamble [e-mail] it was pretty wild yesterday. Marvin was in there listening with Bad Larry. You had Dylan and Shay. And Shay taking us back to his dark days. Man, those are dark days. And we did get around to placing some bets. Seaton. Most Must win game of the weekend.

[Seaton]

I think the your Buffalo Bills need to win. Sean McDermott needs to win. Josh Allen needs to win. There's no Patrick Mahomes. There's no Lamar Jackson. It is now or never. There's already people talking about if, if Sean McDermott has outlasted maybe his welcome or overstayed a little bit, which is a little kind of crazy to me, but it is something people are talking about. They, they absolutely need to win not only this game, but the super bowl this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, it feels like we do focus on quarterbacks with Super Bowls. Not as much coaches not getting to a Super bowl, but in this case with Sean McDermott, it, it just feels like there has been that expectation that they should be in a Super Bowl. Should have been in a Super Bowl. By the way, Sunday night it'll be the Chargers in New England to take on the Patriots. And that'll be wild card weekend. You can see it on NBC and Peacock, Sunday at 7:30 Eastern. Marvin, the most must win game of the weekend.

[Marvin]

Your LA Rams. DP. I got the most must win league MVP to me, the best receiver in football, Puka Nukua, 10 point favorite. You got to pull this one out.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, draftkings just sent me odds early super bowl anytime touchdown score. Who has the best odds to score a touchdown in this year's Super Bowl? I don't think you're gonna get this one. Paulie.

[Paulie]

Jackson, Smith and Jigba.

[Dan Patrick]

Second. Second on the list. Todd.

[Todd]

I was thinking Nakua, but based on what you said, it can't be him because it's, he said it's a less obvious one.

[Dan Patrick]

No, he's down. Okay, this guy is plus 450 and then you've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 at plus 500 Puka Nakua. Plus 600. Satan.

[Seaton]

Yeah, I was gonna say Puka Nukua too, but maybe like Christian McCaffrey.

[Dan Patrick]

Nope, not on the list. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

Trey Henderson.

[Dan Patrick]

No. Yes. Todd.

[Todd]

Cortland Sutton.

[Dan Patrick]

Cortland Sutton. No, but he's on the list. Jackson, Smith, Najigba, Devonte Adams. Kenneth Walker iii. RJ Harvey, Kyron Williams, Pukinakua. Cortland Sutton. But the guy with the best odds to score a touchdown anytime in the Super Bowl, Zach Charbonnet.

[Paulie]

Can't be right.

[Dan Patrick]

I, I, I got a list right here from drafting.

[Paulie]

I know it's printed out and everything and it's on paper. I'm actually gonna throw the bs.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, the, where is the flag?

[Paulie]

It's in the air.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I got early super bowl anytime touchdown scorer, Zach Charbonnet.

[Paulie]

Surprised right now. Yeah, you would, you would go, Kenneth Walker.

[Dan Patrick]

I would think I would.

[Paulie]

The third or the second.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Seaton]

So how do I like. I'm going to use the wrong terms here, but how do I like short that bet? How do I go the opposite bet? Is this like a poly market thing where you jump on and be like, I say it's not going to happen.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't.

[Seaton]

That's the obvious one. So you should do the.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think you can bet against Zach Charbonnet like you can bet with others. That's your way of saying, I don't believe in him. But I, I don't think it's, you know, either Zach or you.

[Seaton]

Why can't I vote the other way on that bed and say, I don't.

[Dan Patrick]

Think that's going to happen? I, I don't know if somebody will take your bet. I don't know that. But we can look into that. I'm going to do the most must win game of the weekend, the Steelers, because we already saw what happened with John Harbaugh. I don't know if Aaron Rodgers coming back, you could see because it feels like Pittsburgh, an older team, is headed towards a rebuild and if they would lose this game. I mean, can you just, I think nationally we have not realized just how warm that seat feels to people in Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin, it is a local versus national perspective and perception. But if you lose that game now, you're, you're not favored to win, but you're still at home and you're a three point underdog. But if, if Mike Tomlin loses another first round playoff game and Aaron Rodgers, do you want to come back? So I, I'm going to say Pittsburgh, yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

That just shows you the expectations of a Steelers fan and the Steelers organization that Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. But they're like, all right, we've had enough of this. Because you haven't won a playoff game in what, 10 years?

[Dan Patrick]

Because if I say to Steeler fans, hey, the next 10 years you're not going to have a losing record. Chances are you're going to be getting in the playoffs, but you're not going to win any playoff game. What Steeler fan is going to sign up for that, right? Hey, we didn't have a losing season and we made the playoffs, but we didn't win again. I mean, this is coming from Pittsburgh. They expect to win championships or compete for championships, not get into the playoffs and then lose in the first round. So I would say the Pittsburgh Steelers would be my choice there all Right. A couple of phone calls in here. Oh, Paul, I did. I didn't get to you.

[Paulie]

It's okay. It's not that great. The most must win game of the weekend would be the Eagles and specifically Nick Sirianni. He gets the one year hall pass and it extends if he does well in the playoffs. But if you lose in the first round at home, you now have undone your super bowl goodwill instantaneously.

[Dan Patrick]

And if you look at what's at stake here in the playoffs. Matthew Stafford, maybe another super bowl, he's going to be the mvp. Maybe Josh Allen finally gets to a Super Bowl. How about Trevor Lawrence and the Jags if they would get there. Talk about a recovery. New England Brable, Drake May the early stages of maybe doing another dynasty there. What about Justin Herbert and Harbaugh going to a Super Bowl? Herbert could really use that. The Texans, C.J. stroud that defense. What if like if the Eagles win another Super Bowl, Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts become Hall of Famers, don't they? Right. Sirianni would have back to back Super Bowls for a guy that we thought might get fired a year ago. And Jalen Hurts, he's been to two Super Bowls. He's the MVP in one of them. And if he got back and won another one. What if Caleb Williams went to the Super Bowl?

[Paulie]

My bad. You shouldn't say it out loud.

[Dan Patrick]

The packers without Micah Parsons. Jordan Love could use it. Matt LaFleur could use it. So there's. There are scenarios here, you know the Niners with what they've been through. Seattle going back, Sam Darnold, that image remake. Dang people would then you know know who the coach is for the Seattle Seahawks as well. Yes. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

So the Panthers are they the only team playing with house money almost like last year's commanders?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I didn't include them and I, you know I showed they're in the playoffs but kind of. But what would that do to Bryce Young? If Bryce Young and the Panthers. I know my own long shot but that we're playing the game, right? Yes, Mark.

[Marvin]

If they get to the NFC championship game there's going to be real pressure. Wait, is he the franchise quarterback right now he's just the starting quarterback.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he needs. He's looking for a new contract like you talk about. This would solidify him as. Although it's not fair to him. But I kind of go it kind of a right handed tua. Like I'm. I'm just not sure. But they look they made the playoffs and you have to respect that. Everything that he's gone through leading up to this, it's a pretty good story. Yeah. Paulie.

[Paulie]

Dan, you're unintentionally playing the game we played a year ago in this segment. Legacy boost. Who or what would get the biggest legacy boost? We should continue this.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I forgot, I forgot we had a title to this legacy boost. Yes, Todd, he's already a Hall of.

[Todd]

Famer and held an extremely high regard. But how much room is there for us to look at Aaron Rodgers? Even a bigger deal if he can take this Steeler team all the way to the super bowl and win and get that second ring, even though he's already considered one of the greatest ever.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, he's got one ring. There are a lot of guys that have played who have one ring. Quarterbacks. It's getting to that second one. But yeah, we can play the legacy game. You can do that. A couple more phone calls. Chris in la. Hi Chris. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Good. Good morning, Dan. You know, if, if my thunder is going to be stolen, I'm glad it was by the great Chris Fowler. He touched on what I was going to say in that I think if this at last play last night had been a 10 or 20 yard pass, they probably would have called pass interference based on the way as you said they were calling the plays all game. But I think because in essence it was a Hail Mary that you know, they weren't going to call in and decided down there and wanted to swallow the whistle because think of all the Hail Marys we've seen. How many times have we seen a pass interference call when afterwards you see clearly there was jostling and all that. So I think it just was because they're used to just swallowing the whistle. That's why they didn't call it.

[Dan Patrick]

But yeah, but. And thanks for the phone call, Chris. That wasn't your traditional Hail Mary. So that's where I'd push back on that Hail Mary. They're not going to call it. But that, you know, once again it was an intermediate mary. It's under 40 yards and you know it wasn't just thrown up there. He would be throwing to a target. I don't want the game to be about that. No call, it shouldn't be. But you can't help but address it and wonder if it was earlier or maybe it was a 15 yard pass instead of a 40 yard pass, would it be called? I mean I hate to think in that way but if I'm a defense. I'm a defensive coordinator and I would say to my defensive backs, do whatever it takes. Do whatever it takes. Keep your hands down low and if you got to hold, you got to grab whatever you have to do, they're not going to call it. So you're giving them an advantage in that situation. That's the problem I have. All right, we'll take a break. We'll continue to play the Legacy Boost who could benefit the most with playoff wins, A Super bowl appearance, A Super bowl win. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific topic on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

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[Seaton]

Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, Liberty.

[Dan Patrick]

Gonna play the Legacy Boost game. Not only the player, but also the coach or other who could benefit the most in these playoffs. Here. 8, 7, 7, 3, DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle @DP Show. Anthony Edwards had 25 last night. He is now at 10,002 career points. And I was curious. He's 24, 24 and 156 days. Who is the quickest to 10,000 points in NBA history? LeBron James did it in 23 years, 59 days. Kevin Durant, 24 years, 33 days. And right now that makes him third on the list to get to 10,000 career points. I don't know how old Wilt was when he got into the NBA, but you would have thought with the numbers that he put up that he would have gotten to 10,000 points.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, I have Wilt Chamberlain being 22 years old as a rookie in 1959.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

And he. Nick, he looked pretty good, though, as a rookie. 37 and 27, he averaged. They don't look real when you look at his stats.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, that's. You know, LeBron was in at what, 18, 19.

[Paulie]

I think he was 19.

[Dan Patrick]

19 for Durant, Anthony Edwards. So if Wilt came in, Wilt would have had 15,000 points probably by that. By that age. Let me see. Gary in San Antonio. Hi, Gary. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan, I'm calling to correct your dad on the national pie date. The 314 date. That's the mad symbol pie P. I. The actual national pie day for the dessert is exactly two weeks from today, Friday the 23rd.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I mean, we could do that. I kind of like the pie. I mean, Seaton came up with that.

[Seaton]

I think that was the joke I was making is that it was the.

[Dan Patrick]

We knew it was PI.

[Seaton]

PI.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

Not PI.

[Dan Patrick]

3.14. Not past interference. It was March 14th. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

It wasn't PI day last night.

[Dan Patrick]

Because.

[Todd]

They didn't call PI.

[Marvin]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

JJ in Florida. Hi, jj.

[Caller]

Be tough to follow, Todd after that one quick Mexican cooking lesson. I'm married into it and spent a little time living down there. Tacos are basically just like a way to get rid of leftovers. Like we make sandwiches or the French make omelets.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Caller]

In Mexico, 99.9% of the time, it's a corn tortilla. Here in the States, it's normally a flour tortilla. Empanadas I've only seen ever made with wheat flour. So they're like a bread sandwich sort of thing. And they can go from sweets like lavas or strawberries to breakfast like bacon and eggs and jalapenos.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, jj. Got a little food lecture there. Mexican food lecture. It's an opinion. Yeah.

[Seaton]

It's not fact, it's an opinion.

[Dan Patrick]

Tom in Michigan. Good morning, Tom. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Good morning, gentlemen. Six foot, couple houses short of three trips around the block. As a person who doesn't mind spending a little of my Social Security on the fun of gambling, my main rule that I violated last night is never better under the next thing. Point I want to make, Dan, is that pick on Marv Fleming was unbelievable. I still don't know what teams are involved there. And the last thing I want to say before I leave is I enjoyed your interview with Laramie Fowler. You guys have a good weekend, all right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I enjoy talking to Chris Fowler. Great guy. And he's got a, you know, personality sometimes doesn't come through when you're doing play by play. But when you do talk to him, it, you know, same thing. Like Jim Nance, you know, these guys get an opportunity to talk. I mean, they talk for a living, but they're kind of reciting what they're seeing. Not necessarily able to give opinions and always enjoy talking to Chris. Okay, let's play the legacy boost. It could be coach, quarterback, owner, positional player. Todd, I'll start with you. Whose legacy could use a boost the most with the playoffs?

[Todd]

I would go with Jim Harbaugh because after everything he accomplished in college to be able to take a charger team, they were all waiting to fall flat on their butts. If he can go on a run and get the NFL a Super bowl with Michigan, Jim Harbaugh would Become all of a sudden a really, really big deal.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, so Jim Harbaugh is off the board. Seaton.

[Seaton]

Oh, you're going off the board. Can I change the word legacy to perception?

[Dan Patrick]

Let me check with the judges. The judges say. All right, well, okay, well, because I'm.

[Seaton]

Trying to not do Josh Allen and the Bills for everything related to the playoffs this year because I very clearly think that this is important for them.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

And I'm struggling between CJ Stroud and Caleb Williams, both of them, if they find a tremendous amount of success this postseason, their, their perception, I guess sl legacy is going to jump through the roof.

[Dan Patrick]

You're going to have to pick one, though. God, why? The judges say?

[Seaton]

I said. I'm just saying the, I'll say C.J. williams.

[Cam Jordan]

Nice.

[Seaton]

I'll say Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams jumps up into a new stratosphere quarterback if he goes far Here.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, with your Chicago White Sox baseball cap on, who were you picking?

[Marvin]

Yeah, because I love them so much.

[Dan Patrick]

Aaron Rodgers.

[Marvin]

If Aaron Rodgers wins this next super bowl, it'd be very much kind of like Peyton Manning where you have all those super regular season MVP awards, but only one super bowl ring to show for it. So he's got to do it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Sarin Rogers off the board, Paul.

[Paulie]

God. Aaron Rodgers was my number one overall draft pick in this game.

[Dan Patrick]

You know he would.

[Paulie]

He's not considered a top five all time quarterback, right, Rogers? No, I don't think he is.

[Dan Patrick]

But he's considered the most talented quarterback of all time.

[Seaton]

The thrower of the ball.

[Paulie]

Peyton Manning needed the second Super Bowl.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he didn't really.

[Paulie]

It's still on the resume.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Aaron Rodgers, his stats.

[Dan Patrick]

I earned his second one more than Peyton did. Wow.

[Paulie]

Harsh. Aaron Rodgers stats, by the way, are the best in NFL history. 527 touchdowns to only 123 picks. Nuts. I'm gonna pick Drake. Maybe Drake may, if he won the super bowl way ahead of schedule, becomes the guy for the future of the NFL and all the attention would shift. Jayden Daniels getting it. Other guys have flirted with it, but it'd be Drake may show going forward.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna say Jalen hurts because that would be three Super Bowls that he's gone to and if he wins two of them, then he's going to be a Hall of Famer. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, here's a sneaky one. Someone that we thought would be. Wait, I, I, I thought you made your pick.

[Dan Patrick]

I wasn't done yet.

[Todd]

Oh, you're picking several people.

[Dan Patrick]

It's A Snake draft. So I get to go.

[Todd]

I thought we were picking one. I didn't know we were good.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, it's two rounds.

[Seaton]

Oh, it's two rounds.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's a Snake draft.

[Seaton]

Oh, I got my pick.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I'm going to go with Mike Tomlin because imagine winning a Super bowl and then saying, you know, I'm going to go into TV for a little while instead of bowing out in the first round. Paul, since you're going.

[Paulie]

Coaches, I'm with you. I'm gonna go. Sean McVeigh, you get your second with Matthew Stafford, and you're rolling. You now have the hall of Fame ticket, and it can't be taken away.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin.

[Marvin]

Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan's only two in Super Bowls, and he still has the stink of the Atlanta super bowl on him, too. Okay, so this would be huge.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton.

[Seaton]

Well, I went with a quarterback at my first one, Caleb Williams. I'm going to go with C.J.

[Paulie]

Stroud.

[Seaton]

C.J. stroud would have a huge perception slash legacy bump.

[Todd]

Todd, Someone who we thought might be a bust recently, who's now going to show that Goldilocks maybe is going to.

[Marvin]

Get all the way.

[Todd]

What if Trevor Lawrence were to win a Super bowl when we were going to write him off not too long ago? I think we get a big, big boost in what we think.

[Dan Patrick]

How about we do the Snake Draft one more round? Yeah, if you're ready, Todd, because it's your turn again.

[Todd]

Okay, I am going to go. Then with Matt LaFleur becomes a much bigger deal in the coaching realm as we look back.

[Dan Patrick]

You weren't ready, were you?

[Todd]

I don't really have a really good choice, but since we're going for a third, we're getting down to the scraps here. I think LaFleur taking this Packer team, a seven seed, to a Super bowl, that would be pretty huge for my.

[Dan Patrick]

No Connor.

[Seaton]

I could have done this guy as my first option, not my third option. I'm shocked that he fell this far to me. I'm going to stick with the quarterback theme that I have going. Jaylen Herz getting number two. That puts him. That answers a lot of questions.

[Dan Patrick]

But I had. Hurts.

[Seaton]

Oh, you did.

[Paulie]

Oh, no, you did.

[Dan Patrick]

That's a dq.

[Seaton]

Do all of my picks get taken? Did.

[Dan Patrick]

I said.

[Seaton]

I said Jordan Love said the Packers. The Eagles. Bear.

[Dan Patrick]

Packers. Hold on. Let me go to the judges.

[Seaton]

And Chicago Eagles get Jordan Love.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin. Damn it.

[Marvin]

Justin Herbert. The perception is that he's a great quarterback, but he's Got to show it in the playoffs.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Paul.

[Paulie]

Sean Payton of the Broncos hall of Fame. And you become re. Relevant. He's close to being relevant. He went away for a while. It would do a lot for Sean Payton.

[Dan Patrick]

The answer is Nick Sirianni. If Nick Sirianni wins another super bowl, he goes back to back. Jack. He's gonna be a Hall of Famer. Yes. Yeah.

[Seaton]

I think Paul is really onto one there, too, because he. There was a lot of turmoil there with the end of the start of the Sean Payton era. Did not go smoothly in Denver at all. And it was kind of like, what the hell is wrong with this guy? Who does he think he's. Oh, he actually is a good coach.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Todd.

[Todd]

I think Nick Sirianni, fair or not, can win three or four Super Bowls. And there'll be a segment of people saying, like, in spite of Nick Sirianni.

[Cam Jordan]

The Eagles won it all.

[Seaton]

They would be right.

[Dan Patrick]

How many coaches have won two Super Bowls? And we go, yeah, but they won in spite of him.

[Seaton]

It would be fun to do the McVeigh Stafford, like, wow.

[Dan Patrick]

They won with.

[Seaton]

Couldn't win without Matthew or couldn't win.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Are you playing the worst coach to win two super.

[Dan Patrick]

Because I Trying to think who.

[Paulie]

I have a name. And I'm just saying it because if we started talking about the greatest coaches in NFL history, we'd be talking for a while before his name came up. Based off that hint, George seaford of the 49ers. He does not get a lot of credit for winning two.

[Dan Patrick]

But he's in the hall of Fame, isn't he?

[Seaton]

Checking first ballot.

[Dan Patrick]

I, for some reason, thought he was.

[Paulie]

I'm betting against it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

It definitely felt like he was winning with Bill Walsh's team and Bill Walsh's system.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah, right. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Marvin]

So I think that hurts. It's almost like Barry Switzer. I know he didn't win, too, but it feels like, hey, I just went with Jimmy Johnson's players.

[Dan Patrick]

That's how good Jimmy Johnson was, that Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl. Yeah. Paul.

[Paulie]

I do not have George Seaford in the hall of Fame.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Paulie]

Other guys who have won two. Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid, Mike Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson, of course, Phil Parcells, Tom Flores.

[Dan Patrick]

He's a Hall of Famer.

[Paulie]

Yep. Tom Landry, Don Shula, Vince Lombard.

[Dan Patrick]

Everybody's a Hall of Famer there. Yeah, I believe. I think Coughlin is not a Hall of Famer yet.

[Paulie]

Checking.

[Dan Patrick]

He was on the. The ballot, I believe. Yes. Todd.

[Todd]

George Seaford Bay Area Sports hall of.

[Dan Patrick]

Fame, 2011 hall of famer. That's what I meant.

[Paulie]

Chuck Dole's not in there.

[Dan Patrick]

That multi.

[Seaton]

Hall of Fame.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's. That's, that's what I meant here. Earnest in Arizona. Ernest, I enjoyed the legacy boost. We'll play it again next year at this time. Hey, Ernest.

[Caller]

Hello. 57165. I'm just calling in as a Chargers fan to call Fritzi out. Why he picked Jim Harbaugh to be the legacy. Just because he's trying to do it in spite. So that, you know, he'll jinx the Chargers and the Broncos will go further than that.

[Todd]

That's exactly what I did. Reverse psychology. I'm going to play up the other teams, like especially an AFC west team so they can crumble before my eyes.

[Dan Patrick]

Jack in Oregon. Hi, Jack. What's on your mind, Mr. Dan?

[Caller]

510 and svelte.

[Dan Patrick]

180. Svelte.

[Caller]

Yeah, svelte. So, first and foremost, I just want to let you know that I've been with you since the old Overman days. So I. I really enjoy your show. Have for many, many, many, many years.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Jack.

[Caller]

You guys have brightened my life in a lot of ways. And I just want to thank you guys, first and foremost, for the work that you do, the joy that you bring to so many of us.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Jack.

[Caller]

So moving on to sports here, I think my MMW got to be the Bills in Jacksonville. It has to be the Bills. This is Josh Allen's year. And Joe Burrow may be fading into Dan Marino land.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And we should. We should have taken Buffalo off the board. I think, you know, it's that big that you have this opportunity. You got Josh Allen, you know Sean McDermott, you got some of the heavyweights out of the way, and this should be your year. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

I don't think any of us picked him for the legacy game. Him or McDermott.

[Dan Patrick]

Right. No.

[Marvin]

Yeah. So we knew, like, I think that's obvious.

[Dan Patrick]

Aaron in Pennsylvania. Hi, Aaron.

[Caller]

Hey, gang. Happy meet Friday. I was wondering, do you think Mendoza is just too nice, too clean? He gets. He's been getting a lot of backlash, and I wonder if that's part of it. I kind of like Kurt Warner. You know, everybody used to say he was. He was. He was too clean.

[Dan Patrick]

But. But Eric, if. If Mendoza turns out to be Kurt Warner, sign me up. Sign. Sign me up. I'm. I'm good. You know, people wondered if Tim Tebow was really like that Russell Wilson, if he's really like that. Kirk Cousins if he's like that. There's so many players trying to think of those guys where you go, he can't be that nice. Alex Rodriguez, he now I didn't, I don't think Alex was the way he presents himself.

[Paulie]

Can of worms here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. No need to go down that rabbit hole. Let me see Kevin in Birmingham. Hi, Kevin. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan, thanks so much. Hey, I was going to switch it up a little bit, talk about last night. Do you, did you guys find it interesting? Like around 37 seconds or so? Ole Miss calls the timeout. I feel like kind of after that first down play, they didn't really get yards. Carson back gets up, looks a little bit confused. But Ole Miss calls a timeout. I didn't understand that. I was going to see what you guys thought about that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we were talking about and everybody would, each side was playing the clock there. And then, you know, you're, do you let somebody score and then you get the ball back and how much time and you know, so there were a variety of things that there was a whole lot that went on in that fourth quarter. A whole lot. All right, let me take a break. I'm checking the outdoor grilling. Dylan is plating things right now. How about we go out there during the commercial break and if you're watching on Peacock, you'll be able to see the menu coming off the grills. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live.

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[Seaton]

Liberty. Liberty.

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Liberty. Last call for phone calls. What we learned what's in store for Monday? Bill Cower will be on the show. Nice timing with the Steelers game this weekend and the fallout maybe from that game. Steelers underdogs at home. What will be the lead story on Monday? Universal lead sports story. I'm not talking about headline. Don't write the headline, Todd. I'm just saying what will be. Who will be the lead story? Marvin.

[Marvin]

If they lose, the Buffalo Bills.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Paul.

[Paulie]

The future of Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Todd.

[Todd]

I'm gonna go. Josh Allen. The Bills too, if they play that game.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton. You got one.

[Seaton]

It's got to be something completely not football related that we couldn't possibly predict right now. Something crazy is going to happen and.

[Dan Patrick]

We'Re going to be like, whoa, if the Bills win, the Bills aren't leading. So the Bills. So you're saying that Bills are going to lose this game? If you think that's going to be the lead story. The Bills beating Jacksonville won't be the lead story on Monday. Todd.

[Todd]

Right. But when the Bills do lose.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, they are losing.

[Todd]

It's going to be a big shock to everyone. Then it becomes the big news story.

[Dan Patrick]

Pie to the ball. To the ball. What do I think then? I think the Steelers, assuming you know they're going to lose.

[Paulie]

Actually, Emi, they play Monday. That's me. I looked at the sheet. I was looking at the. I didn't see the dates. We had to retract. I had to retract my Steelers one.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, then maybe we need Bill Cower for Tuesday instead of Monday. Todd.

[Todd]

Well, Carol will get us ready for the big Steeler game.

[Dan Patrick]

Bill in Cincinnati. Hi, Bill. What's on your mind.

[Caller]

Hey, Dan, I appreciate you taking my call. This is the first time I've ever had the guts to call in. I just, I heard you guys talking about how Barry Spitzer won with Jimmy Johnson's guys, which just was going to lead me to this, basically. How come nobody really ever talks about, you know, about how there's a lot of Sears fans that will say that. Mike Tomlin one with Bill Cowers guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'd have to look at the turnover there, how many players were still there, but that's fair to say. Bill, that is Joe in Michigan. Hi, Joe. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hi, Dan. First time, long time to say this, but I think the producers of the Daily show were watching you because they had a pet psychic on a segment last night.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Caller]

A lady from Maine.

[Dan Patrick]

Coincidence? I think not.

[Seaton]

Where'd they get that idea?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, if I can help out John Stewart in his career, I'm more than happy to. My psychic, my, my pet psychic tonight at 6:30, half hour, she gets to tell me. I get to ask quite. I don't even know what I'm supposed to do. My wife said, why don't you just listen? I said, well, I can listen, but I think I'm supposed to offer up information and. 30 minutes, that's a long time. Tell me about my dog. Brian in New York. Hi, Brian, what's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hi, Danny, how are you?

[Dan Patrick]

Good.

[Caller]

It was on the Twitter last night I saw a clip of you doing an interview in 1980. 84, CNN New York, interviewing Don Mattingly, old Donnie Baseball. Your hair was amazing, your suit was amazing and the reporting was out of this world.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, Brian. Yeah, I struck up a relationship with Mattingly, 83. And that's when Donnie was Donnie Baseball. And he was very generous with his time because the Yankee PR people were terrible. They didn't help you at all. Certainly, you know cnn, where I'm not out there that often, but you know, the locals, they certainly helped out the sports reporters there. But me, it was basically, I'd have to say to Donnie Mattingly, hey, can you do this for me? And then, you know, you'd have to wait a couple of days and then eventually you'd sit down and do a story with you. But yeah, for the most part, you'd go to the Yankees and was like you were going to get yelled at. If you walked on the grass at Yankee Stadium, there would be security that would yell at you that you weren't allowed to walk on the grass by the Batting cage. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

I got yelled at a Chase Stadium by a PR person. I guess I could. Should I say his name or.

[Dan Patrick]

Who? Jay. Yeah, yeah.

[Todd]

Our good friend Jay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd]

You can't. You can't, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, maybe. Maybe you deserved it.

[Todd]

I had a credential, but maybe it didn't have the field access part. It was just for the press box. But I went down there anyway and I was escorted off the field.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Seaton.

[Seaton]

Yeah, I think at Wrigley we got told you could stand here, but not there.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, but wasn't that for foul balls? I don't remember that.

[Seaton]

We got throwing the pitch out. Oh, yeah, they were very clearly like you'd want to stand right over here.

[Dan Patrick]

But not go anywhere else. Oh, that was pretty cool, though. We got to all go out to the mound.

[Seaton]

All of the things you're talking about are super cool.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seaton]

They don't really like you roaming around the field. No, they think it's what we're getting.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. I remember taking my father in law to Yankee Stadium and I got him a press pass. Die hard, Yankee fan all of his life. I said, all right, dad, I'm going to take you there, but you gotta stay right here. And of course he didn't. He lights up a cigarette. He's smoking a heater in the dugout, and he goes. He picks up Mattingly's bat and he's swinging it. And I go, dad, you cannot. You can't do this. But there he was, smoking a heater, picking up a bat, swinging it. I'm like, oh, my God. Especially of all places, the Yankee Stadium. Let's see this day in sports history. Paul.

[Paulie]

This is my favorite, Dan. I'll start with the first one. 1977, Super Bowl XI. Set a pro attendance record with 103,000. It's funny that the Super bowl now has like 20,000 fewer people. In 1962, the NFL banned the grabbing of face masks. I did some research. They did have a meeting about different rules changes in 1961, and they tabled the face mask grabbing thing because they just weren't sure. And 1962, they said, yeah, no more grabbing a face mask. Yeah, we got soft after that.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, let me see. Bevo Francis of Rio Grande College scored 116 points in a game in 1953, he scored 55 points in the fourth quarter. Also this. This is a pretty amazing one. 1958, Oscar Robertson, he outscored Seton Hall. The final score was 118 to 54. Oscar at 56 at the Garden over. Wow.

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[Dan Patrick]

Crazy thing to say. Overrated. That's one of those. If you do it in New York, you know, this isn't Cincinnati or Indianapolis where Oscar was from. He was doing it on the biggest stage in basketball, Madison Square Garden, and putting up those points. And look, I think his career was incredible. But 99.9 of the analysts who talk about Oscar, they didn't. They didn't see him. And if you did, you saw him in Milwaukee when he was not Oscar Robertson. He was basically just a guy who set the tempo, got the ball into Kareem, and they won a title. But yeah, people say, oh, you got to have Oscar in the top 10. They only know him from a triple double. Todd, what did you learn today?

[Todd]

Brady Quinn would like to think Lane Kevin was pulling for Ole Miss to win last night. He was incentivized financially, though.

[Dan Patrick]

Satan Bill's got a lot of pressure.

[Seaton]

On him this weekend.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin.

[Marvin]

Brady Quinn doesn't do hypotheticals.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul, Legacy Boost thanks for everything this week for Seaton, Fritzi, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly, the BRGs. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you on Monday.

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