Hour 3 – NBA’s Small Market Revolution, Big Ben Triggering Players in Pittsburgh

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3

Date: February 12, 2026
Main Theme: NBA’s Small Market Revolution, NBA All-Star Weekend, and Ben Roethlisberger’s impact on the Steelers locker room

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Episode Overview

This hour dives into three main themes: the coming NBA All-Star weekend (and suggestions for livening it up), a discussion of the NBA’s small market teams thriving by building from within rather than by luring superstars, and heated fallout in Pittsburgh from former Steeler Joey Porter Sr.’s comments about Ben Roethlisberger. The show retains its signature blend of banter, humor, nostalgia, and listener engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA All-Star Weekend: Nostalgia, Contestants, and Fixes

[01:49–10:36]

• Dan Patrick expresses curiosity about the All-Star Weekend, wondering whether this year’s format will make the game more competitive (or if it will just be another "layup line"). He reminisces about past dunk contests, expressing a wish for integrating shooting legends from the past with current stars.
• Creative Idea: Dan suggests a tandem three-point shootout with NBA legends (e.g., Steve Kerr, Larry Bird) and current stars (e.g., Steph Curry, Klay Thompson), and incorporating WNBA or additional legends.
• Dunk Contest Quiz:
  • The hosts quiz each other on the teams of this year’s largely anonymous Slam Dunk Contestants (Jackson Hayes–Lakers, Jace Richardson–Orlando Magic, Carter Bryant–San Antonio Spurs, Kashad Johnson–Miami Heat).
  • Nostalgic references to past competitions with eight participants ("like back in the day with Terence Stansberry" – [04:41]).
• Funny Anecdote: The crew jokes about travel stories, e.g., visiting Mount Rushmore ("the rock structure;" [08:26]), and muses about living in Sioux Falls versus Miami ([07:52]–[08:50]).

2. NBA “Small Market Revolution”

[12:09–16:08]

• Dan highlights how the best teams in the NBA currently (Oklahoma City, Detroit, San Antonio) are doing so without superstar signings or big-market advantages:

  “None of them built their teams by landing big free agents. ... These are teams on the periphery in these big cities who have built really good teams.” ([12:09])

• Marvin challenges whether market or star power matters more in the NBA. He notes LeBron did it in Cleveland, Steph in Oakland.

  Marvin: “Isn’t it more so the stars than the market that they’re in?” ([14:06])

• Dan adds that Cade Cunningham of Detroit has elite skills but lacks media star power, which impacts recognition in smaller cities.

3. Phone Calls: Load Management, All-Star Fixes, and NBA Debates

[10:39–16:08; 28:50–41:07]

• Caller Jordan recalls how the Spurs "managed" David Robinson’s injury to draft Tim Duncan, sparking discussion on early load management and tanking. Seaton: “The Spurs are like the original load manager.” ([11:52])
• Caller Don suggests a generational All-Star tournament; Dan fears it’s a “torn Achilles waiting to happen” but likes the idea of stationary three-point contests featuring legends ([29:15–30:20]).
• Caller Eric suggests the midseason tournament could replace the All-Star Game, calling current attempts “just not working.” ([32:34])
• Caller Paul proposes an All-Star Dunk "HORSE" competition to boost creativity and lessen missed dunk attempts ([38:58]).

4. Pittsburgh Steelers: Joey Porter Sr. vs. Ben Roethlisberger

[20:48–24:19]

• Joey Porter Sr. appears on the “Not Just Football” podcast, strongly criticizing Roethlisberger (“Seven definitely broke the brotherhood… he’s not a good teammate… we protected him…” [21:10–21:53]).
• Dan and crew are surprised at the timing, parsing whether this is about Ben as a player or as a person.

  Dan: “Is this about him as a teammate or him as a person?... But this feels like it’s more about the person that Joey Porter Sr. doesn’t like.” ([23:06])

• Seaton interprets Porter as saying former teammates protected Ben, and now resent him talking about “Steeler business” publicly after retirement.
• Marvin quips, “this type of dirty laundry is for other franchises, not the Steelers.” ([24:13])

5. Additional NBA Topics & Humor

• The team riffs on LA Lakers internal drama: potential shake-ups under new ownership (Guggenheim Group), Rob Pelinka’s future, and whether LeBron will stay (“Most Laker fans are okay with [potential changes].” [24:34])
• A light segment on defense, where Dan jokes about how players only play defense after making a shot:

  “I played some of my best defense—well, my only defense—after I made a shot.” ([27:19])

• Humorous nostalgia on high-school basketball cheers and potential for the Dan Patrick crew as “male cheerleaders” or “yell leaders.” ([27:33–28:13])

6. LeBron Load Management: Fact vs. Memory

[33:49–37:37]

• Caller Eric claims LeBron once took a midseason break to work out with Dwyane Wade; the crew fact-checks, concluding LeBron has seldom missed games and was given days off by the Cavs, not skipping games to vacation.
• Paulie: “In LeBron's first seven seasons... he never played fewer than 75 games.” ([34:25])
• Dan: “He wanted to show the younger players that he could play all of these games.” ([34:25])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the All-Star Game’s declining gravity:

  “Maybe we just want to see our guys out there, running up and down and, you know, shooting some threes or dunking or some fun passes... I'd like to see a little more.” – Dan Patrick ([01:49])

• On the Slam Dunk Contest contestants:

  Paulie: “Jackson Hayes, who does he currently play for?”
  Dan: “He plays for the Lakers.” ([05:11–05:18])

• On NBA’s small-market shift:

  “Small markets are not supposed to dominate this way... They’ve done it the right way so far.” – Dan ([12:09])

• On “Steeler business”:

  Joey Porter Sr.: “He’s not a good teammate. Won a Super Bowl, woop-di-doo, but as a person, he’s just not a good teammate... we protected him because... that was my quarterback. So do I love my quarterback? Yeah, but is he a good person? No.” ([21:18–21:53])

• Defensive cynicism:

  “Nobody is more excited about playing defense than the guy who just scored.” – Dan ([26:54])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:49] NBA All-Star Weekend: Hopes, contests, participants
• [05:11–07:04] Slam Dunk Contest team guessing game
• [08:25] Mount Rushmore anecdote
• [10:39–11:52] Load management and Spurs “tanking” to draft Tim Duncan
• [12:09–16:08] Small-market teams’ NBA rise and the star vs. market debate
• [20:48–24:19] Joey Porter Sr. slams Ben Roethlisberger; Steelers locker room culture
• [24:34–27:19] Lakers’ future and defense as an "illusion"
• [28:50–31:41] Fixing All-Star Weekend: Generational tourney, legends’ reluctance, 3-point contest
• [33:49–37:37] Debunking LeBron “banana boat” midseason vacation
• [38:58–41:01] All-Star Dunk “HORSE” suggestion, Mac McClung's path, G-League gap
• [41:07–44:44] Pablo Torre, Jerry West, the “Meadowlard” saga, show in-jokes

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Summary Takeaways

• All-Star Fatigue: The NBA’s All-Star Weekend is losing luster, with even sports radio legends struggling to recognize the dunk contestants. Dan and crew favor injecting more legend-versus-current-player dynamics (especially in shooting contests).
• Small Markets Rising: Dan and Marvin’s debate about whether stars or markets make NBA success reflects OKC, Detroit, and San Antonio’s rise—which bucks the “big market big star” trend but also raises questions about media visibility and star perception.
• Steelers Locker Room Rift: Joey Porter Sr. torches Roethlisberger’s record as a teammate—a rare airing of Pittsburgh’s “dirty laundry” that surprises the crew for its timing and force.
• Humor and Insight: Classic Dan Patrick banter on sports radio tropes, high school cheers, and the very importance of “staying in your lane” with fan opinions.
• Listener Participation: The show thrives on callers pitching All-Star game fixes and weigh-ins on NBA or NFL culture debates.
• Old School vs. New School: Whether in discussing NBA shooter legends, team-building, or the sanctity of the locker-room, Hour 3 embodies the show’s blend of nostalgia and up-to-the-minute sports world issues.

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Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's the final hour on this Thursday. Minister of Humor Fritzi is here. Here, Seton, Marv, Polly, yours truly in the back room. Guys, your phone calls coming up. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network or listening on our radio affiliates around the country have a new poll question coming up and 877threeDP show operator Tyler sitting by. We have the All Star Weekend coming up and we've gone back and forth of can this liven up the All Star Weekend? I'm at least curious about it. I'm. I'm far more curious than I've ever been with an All Star Game in the last 10 years, maybe 15 years now. I'm not. The expectation level is not very high. It's all right. Is it going to be kind of look like basketball kind of back and forth that, you know, maybe they're competing, not trying to kill each other, but not making it seem like it's a layup line and that's what it's been before and maybe that's good enough for you. Maybe you say, hey, we just want to see our guys out there. My favorite player out there running up and down and you know, shooting some threes or dunking or some fun passes, whatever those, you know, moments might be, I'd like to see a little more. I don't blame them if they don't give a little more. You have the three point shooting contest, which being a shooter, I love watching it. I still think that you could do somebody from the past with somebody with the present. If I say I'm going to put Steve Kerr and he has one rack, that's it. And then he's going to be with say Klay Thompson or Steph Curry and then I get somebody out. Larry Bird's going to be out there, Reggie Miller and. And they get one rack. They only have to shoot one rack and it'll be a tandem. I think that would be fun. Now if you wanted to incorporate WNBA players in that and you would have a legend of the game, I think that would be awesome. Now, now we do like the. I won the three point shooting contest. That still holds some value there. But I got Dame Lillard in the three point shooting contest. He's not even playing. And we made a big deal about Mack McClung. He's not even on an NBA team. But I think Mac is going to show the dunks that he would have. Maybe he's already put out the video. These are the dunks that he would have used if he was in the slam dunk contest. If I would go, yes, these are the dunks that I would perform. And then Paulie goes, do you know who, who was in the dunk contest? And I said, I. I don't know. And he goes, there's only four. We only have four competitors in the dunk contest?

[Paulie]

Yes. No, it's been four the past couple years.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. It's.

[Paulie]

It wasn't like back in the day with like Terence Stansberry.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, eight dudes. Terrence Stansberry.

[Paulie]

Feel good about that one?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Terence Stansberry. Was he out of like St. Joe's or checking Terence Stansberry? He did win the slam dunk contest. Terrence Stansberry. All right, so there's four competitors in the slam dunk contest.

[Paulie]

Yes. I'm going to name the competitor. You guys must name the team. Oh, Marvin, unfortunately you're going to have to go last. You're going to have to wait for other answers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, this is right in your wheelhouse here.

[Paulie]

Okay, this one is somewhat easy. Jackson Hayes, who does he currently play for? Big man.

[Dan Patrick]

He plays for the Lakers.

[Paulie]

That's correct. Seventh season. Seven footers. Rarely do well in Duncan.

[Dan Patrick]

That is true.

[Paulie]

Too close to the rim. Yeah, he should get shorter before the weekend. Okay, here's somewhat. There's a good hook here. Jace Richardson.

[Dan Patrick]

So his dad played in the NBA.

[Paulie]

Yes, Jason Richardson. He was a two time slam dunk contest winner in O2.

[Dan Patrick]

Played at Michigan State.

[Paulie]

That's correct.

[Dan Patrick]

J, A, C E. Yes. All right. J, A, S E. Oh, se.

[Paulie]

Okay, close enough.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Jace Richardson plays four.

[Seaton]

It's actually Jaws, but Jaws.

[Paulie]

Y. Richardson.

[Dan Patrick]

I'll say Memphis.

[Paulie]

No, let's put. I'll give you a hint. It's a team that you've liked for a couple years now. Doesn't narrow it down a lot. Decent squad, a lot of young talent.

[Dan Patrick]

Orlando.

[Paulie]

Orlando is right.

[Seaton]

Orlando always has a guy in the slam dunk contest. They always have a guy.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, so Jace. J A S E. Okay.

[Paulie]

Carter Bryant, real name Carter Bryant. He was drafted, I think in the first round this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Brooklyn.

[Paulie]

No, but similar color uniforms.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know Brooklyn's colors. Oh, blue.

[Seaton]

San Antonio.

[Paulie]

Carter Bryant is a spur.

[Dan Patrick]

Whoa.

[Seaton]

Sort of a gray, black and white situation there.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Drafted 14th overall. Coming off the bench, last up, Kashad Johnson. Kashad Johnson.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, do you know Kashad Johnson?

[Marvin]

Never heard of him.

[Seaton]

Memphis Grizzlies.

[Paulie]

Well, close enough. That's an NBA team. You guessed. He's a Miami Heat.

[Dan Patrick]

He.

[Paulie]

He's a Heat.

[Dan Patrick]

He's a Heater.

[Seaton]

The Miami Heat.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

He was with the Sioux Falls Sky Force last year.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so I hear you. Sioux Falls shout out. It's close.

[Seaton]

You guessed an actual NBA team, so it is close.

[Dan Patrick]

Six, six, four.

[Paulie]

Hey, none of us are in the NBA. No, he split last season between Miami and Sioux Falls. That great surf and turn. I'd actually rather live in Sioux Falls.

[Dan Patrick]

Back to you then. Miami.

[Paulie]

Yes, I've been to Sioux Falls. It's lovely.

[Dan Patrick]

I've been to Sioux Falls. I've been in North Dakota and South Dakota both. Dakota, yes. And wanted to date Dakota Johnson.

[Paulie]

So that's our guy. Kashad Johnson of the Heat and The.

[Dan Patrick]

Sky Force favorite, quarterback Dak Prescott. Dakota.

[Paulie]

That old poll question. Sioux Falls or Miami?

[Dan Patrick]

Where are you going to live? Well, there's a lot of expanse out of North Dakota and South Dakota. When you drive, there's nobody and there's nothing but fields.

[Paulie]

That's lovely, though.

[Dan Patrick]

It. It can be if you. Now, we had a beautiful drive with the family because my wife said we got to go see, you know, the, as my kids say, the, the rock structure. Yeah, well, go see the rock structure. Mount Rushmore.

[Paulie]

The rock structure.

[Dan Patrick]

The rock structure. And then we got there, you know, and you pull up and then my kids go, okay. And I go, no, no, no, we're. Your mom is here. We're going in. We're going to go through the gift shop. We're going to do the video. We're. We're here for a while, so unpack. And they sat outside while we went inside. And I mean, it was fascinating, but. And if you get the opportunity, please go see Mount Rushmore. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, if you're driving miles and miles of so called nothingness, how much are you enjoying the prairies and the views and the cows versus what if my car breaks down and I'm like here for days?

[Dan Patrick]

Of course you would think that. I didn't think if I break down.

[Todd]

There'S just no humans anywhere to be seen.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, there's a lot of farmland. I mean, there, there, there is civilization.

[Todd]

Called Triple A will be there Wednesday. Hang in there. I don't have enough water for the next four days. What are you talking about?

[Dan Patrick]

Only you. Only you.

[Marvin]

That's all.

[Dan Patrick]

I would think about it.

[Marvin]

How many?

[Todd]

The next rest area. 73 miles.

[Dan Patrick]

What's going on here? Yeah. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paul, if Mount Rushmore could ever consider adding an extra head. Let's say there's a really great present. They wanted to add a head. It would. And then you show you have a fifth person on Mount Rushmore. That would really help sports radio going forward if there was a fifth spot on Mount Rushmore.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, so when we did the Mount Rushmore of like the San Antonio Spurs. Yes.

[Paulie]

You know, now we have a fifth option. I'm putting that request in on behalf of Sports Radio.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, this current president may end up trying to find a way to get him up there on the Mount Rushmore. I know, I mean, sculpt it out. Yeah. Although it'd be kind of difficult though, looking at the structure. But.

[Paulie]

It does look a little tight in there. There's a wedge in there that you could probably about a 40 by 80 slot.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

Greatest face the world's ever seen.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Seaton]

Never been a better face.

[Todd]

Starts with the Kennedy center. And once you can get your name in there, you know, it's the stepping stone. Who knows what you're going to get?

[Paulie]

Mount Rushmore for us in sports, a fifth head would help.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. Anywho. 8773 DP show. So we know our slam dunk contestants. Kind of. Kind of. Yeah.

[Marvin]

Well we know the names but we still don't know them.

[Dan Patrick]

Jordan in Utah. Hi Jordan. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning Donnett. Thanks for taking my call. 62170. So the conversation on the tanking and the load management earlier the question was asked what came first? So I wanted to point out I heard this on a local show that I listened to after you guys in the afternoons. Spence, Check. It's David Robinson. His rookie season. He plays 82 games next year. 82 games. 68 games. 82. 80, 81. So on and so forth. In 1967 he played six games that year there was a senior for Wake Forest by the name of Tim Duncan. The 97 draft. The spurs get the number one pick and drop Tim Duncan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I know they had David sit out. This is common knowledge.

[Paulie]

Wasn't tanking. He actually had an injury.

[Dan Patrick]

He did but they didn't want him to come back. It worked out for they encouraged him to make sure that he really took care of his body.

[Seaton]

The spurs are like the original load manager. They are David Stern. Find them like hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And it's didn't bother Greg Popovich. He was like I don't care. Finus. We're winning championships here. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin and I also learned that David Robinson played in 1967.

[Dan Patrick]

How about that? If you look at the three teams right now with the best records, you have Oklahoma City. You have the Detroit Pistons and the San Antonio Spurs. None of them built their teams by landing big free agents. Nobody benefited from an elite player forcing his way into town. You know, it's not a glamorous zip code. And usually when you think of the NBA, we think of big market, you know, teams and they spend deep into the luxury tax, you know, the apron and all of that. Small markets are not supposed to dominate this way. Oklahoma City and Detroit and San Antonio, they're in the bottom 10 in spending in the NBA. They've done it the right way so far. And OKC, Detroit and San Antonio, proof that anyone can compete when built the right way and congratulations to them. But we tend to look at the NBA. You go, oh, you need la, you need Philly, you need New York, you need Boston. And yeah, it helps. The league is better when you have representatives from those cities, certainly with New York. But these are teams on the periphery in these big cities who have built really good teams. And Detroit did that quietly when they drafted Cade Cunningham. And he was going to be the number one pick because somebody had to be. And I remember watching him in college, and I go, okay, he could take over some games. Seemed like he was pretty good at everything, maybe not great. And I thought, okay, it's a nice complimentary player. And then you realize the makeup of the person. That's what you can't really gauge. He wants to be great. And that's the kind of player it's. When you get to the NBA now the job begins. And it feels like that way with Cade Cunningham. He got to the NBA. Now I want to be great. Yes, Marvin, but don't you think the.

[Marvin]

NBA is more about stars, more so than the markets? But because LeBron James was the biggest star on earth doing it in Cleveland. Same thing with Steph Curry. I know Oakland's not a small market, per se, but he was doing it with the warriors also. So isn't it more so the stars than the market that they're in?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the Suns had stars. They didn't have any success.

[Marvin]

What do you mean?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you're. You're talking. Talking about big markets or you're talking about the actual stars?

[Marvin]

I was. I was only talking about. What I was saying was the stars are more important than the market that they're in. Correct, because LeBron James was the biggest star on earth doing it in Cleveland.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Detroit doesn't have stars.

[Marvin]

But they have good players.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but they don't have big names. I mean, San Antonio has wimy. I'm. I'm not sure what we're discussing or arguing here, but I think you were.

[Marvin]

Saying the NBA is better when it has big markets. Yeah, but I think the star power is more important than the market.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but those teams. Jalen Brunson's an elite player. Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown, elite players. LA has Luca and LeBron. So you. I mean, you do have big names in big cities. You know, Joe LNB was an MVP in Philadelphia. Now, do we maybe enhance somebody's credentials or notoriety because they're in a bigger city? Yes. I mean, Jalen Brunson played in Detroit and. Or Dallas, and people don't even remember. They're like, he was with Luca. And you're like, yes. Yeah, Marv.

[Marvin]

So that'd be the same thing with Kate Cunningham. Kate Cunningham would be a bigger star if he was somewhere else. He's a top five player in the NBA this season.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Okay. He doesn't have star power. He. He's a, he's a really good player.

[Marvin]

Well, neither does Jalen Brunson, but he only plays in New York.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

You see what I'm saying?

[Dan Patrick]

Are we arguing?

[Marvin]

No, we shouldn't argue.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Are we beefing now? Rich?

[Marvin]

Rich had enough beef for the. For both of us.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Rich in Chicago. Okay. All right, Let me take a break here. More phone calls coming up. Back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Marvin]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Podcast Narrator]

Within days, tips started flooding into the sheriff's department.

[Caller]

They the rumor around the drug scene was that a deputy was taken care of.

[Dan Patrick]

Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?

[Stugots]

A homicide captain saying, detective, do not find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Caller]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Seaton]

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[Dan Patrick]

Was that. Was that you, Paulie?

[Paulie]

We put the D in Seattle.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. The adult. So that T shirt is up there.

[Seaton]

Because their defense was really good.

[Dan Patrick]

That's what.

[Seaton]

That's. It's reference to their defense in the Super Bowl.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paulie]

Complex bit.

[Dan Patrick]

D Idle workshopping it. Joey Porter, senior, former Steeler linebacker. He was on the Not Just Football podcast and he said this about his former Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, seven definitely broke.

[Marvin]

The brotherhood because, like, that's the one.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't understand.

[Marvin]

The seven dude that did that we don't talk about.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Marvin]

Is crazy.

[Todd]

Like.

[Marvin]

Like, out of anybody should talk. He should never grab a microphone and really talk. Steal a business. Yeah. Because if we talking Steeler business, his ass is. Is foul of all foul. Like that he's did. Is foul of all foul. He's not a good teammate. Won a Super Bowl, Woody. But the person. He's just not a good teammate. Like, he knows that. Anybody in the Steeler building knows that. But we protected him because I've only won one super bowl, and that was my quarterback. So do I love my quarterback? Yeah. But is he a good person? No.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know where this came from.

[Seaton]

Foul of all foul.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at this, but I'm just surprised at the timing of this. I don't know. Did Ben have something negative to say about Aaron Rogers or Mike McCarthy?

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, Ben has been on a podcast that I think he runs with some people over the course of this year, and he said some things, analyzing from outside that I guess some Steelers are upset with not one specific incident.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I don't have any problem with him from his perch, his perspective, his career. If he has something to say. Like, he hasn't earned the right to be able to say that just because he wasn't a good teammate. I mean, he was there for 18 years. Yes.

[Seaton]

I got the sense that what Joey Porter was saying, and maybe I'm just reading too much into it, is for years we protected you, and now you're supposed to do the same thing for the Steelers. For years, you were a bad teammate, but we all protected you. Nobody talked about our dirty laundry outside of that locker room. But you're more than welcome. You're more than willing to discuss things on your podcast, and nobody did that to you when you were in the building.

[Dan Patrick]

But is this about him as a teammate or him as a person? Because as a former player, I want his perspective on the Steelers. Whether I agree with it or not, I welcome it. And he's earned the right to have a podcast where he can, you know, share that content. But this feels like it's more about the person that Joey Porter Sr. Doesn't like. Well, it might be the teammate. Maybe they. They blur the lines there together.

[Seaton]

Maybe the teammate wouldn't be saying it, but the person is, I guess.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And what are you trying to accomplish this many years later anyway, and I don't know, why is that an important thing? To make sure the world knows how you feel about how bad a guy, Big Ben was?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, if I'm interviewing Joey Porter Senior, I would say, well, give me specifics here. I mean, if you're already going to call him out being a bad person now, there might be things that he doesn't want to say publicly, but I was just kind of surprised where, you know, it's like, oh, do you hear what Joey Porter Senior said about Ben? Like, no. And then I heard it. I go, wow, okay. It's a long time after the fact. Yes, Mark.

[Marvin]

And this type of dirty laundry is for other franchises, not the Steelers. Oh, that's all I had.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, fair point. Fair point. The NBA's biggest stars, the all star weekend on NBC, and Peacock USA versus the world. Chris in LA. Hi, Chris.

[Caller]

Good morning, Dan. You know, you were talking about LeBron's future in L. A. I just want to give you a vibe as to what people here in LA feel, you know, with the Guggenheim group that owns the Dodgers now owning the Lakers. The feeling here is that they're going to make some major shakeups, including maybe Brad Pelinka being gone, and that would include, you know, LeBron being gone as well, and that they're not as beholden to Clutch Sports and LeBron as the Buss family was. And it kind of makes you want. And Andrew Friedman, the president of the Dodgers, has already started meetings with Laker personnel. So we think there's going to be some. Some shakeups, and most Laker fans are okay with that. And it also makes you wonder if they're picking Magic Spraying, who. You know, you have a co owner who is one of the best players of all time. They're probably getting his opinion on this as well. So we'll see. But I think there's going to be some. Some differences here with the Lakers roster next season.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I saw with Rob Polinka is his job in question here. LeBron's future there. And you, you know, now it's Luca's team. So what. What do you want to surround him with? And LeBron can still play at a pretty high level. You still want him around. This isn't one of those where you say, like, Kobe, hey, we're not going to be very good. Come out and watch Kobe play the last couple of years. You know, that. That's not this scenario. Like, we have Austin Reeves and we have Luca. We should be better. And they are. They're not going to be. I mean, they might be a dangerous first round opponent, but, you know, they just don't play any defense. They have no interest in playing defense. And they have a couple of big guys that are supposed to be those rim protectors here. All I know is Luca might play a little bit of defense. LeBron can look like he's playing defense, but, man, you watch, sometimes you're like, this is. This isn't, you know, a good team. Yeah, morph.

[Marvin]

LeBron plays defense like you do, like when you make a basket.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on.

[Marvin]

Whose guys?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, oh.

[Marvin]

Come on, come on, slap the floor. It's the illusion of I'm about to get down in the chair and play some defense.

[Dan Patrick]

Nobody is more excited about playing defense than the guy who just scored. Yeah, you never see the guy who misses the shot, who is like, slapping the floor and can't, you know, he's ready to play defense. I played some of my best defense. Well, my only defense after I made a shot, you know, so therefore I probably played some decent defense. Okay, look, clapping. Yeah, Come on now. Come on, pick him up. You got him. You got him. I got him. Watch the switch.

[Caller]

Pick.

[Dan Patrick]

Pick. You know, if I missed the shot, I wouldn't say a word. Yeah, like, damn, how did I miss that shot?

[Seaton]

He's getting that rebound.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on, guys, get a rebound and get it back out.

[Seaton]

Who's getting that rebound?

[Dan Patrick]

Rebound, rebound. Get it, get it. I remember some of the cheers were so silly. When you're in high school, but you're watching those cheerleaders, it didn't matter what.

[Seaton]

Take or swim, do or die. Come on, Eagles, break that tie.

[Paulie]

Re, B, O, U, N, D. Rebound, rebound.

[Marvin]

Okay. U, G, L, Y. You ain't got no alibi. You ugly. Y Y. You ugly.

[Dan Patrick]

We got spirit. Yes, we do. We got spirit.

[Marvin]

How about you?

[Paulie]

We could be male cheerleaders.

[Dan Patrick]

We would be yell leaders.

[Seaton]

What do you mean, could be?

[Paulie]

Yeah, very. Got a lot of experience.

[Dan Patrick]

What was this? What was the cheer that I. I told you about?

[Marvin]

Bleep.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. It was, hey, get off your ass in jam. I. I remember we came and we were playing this all black school and we came out of the locker room and they started with that cheer. And I'm like, we're in trouble. We're in trouble. I don't know how good they are. They turned out to be really good. But we're in trouble when the cheerleaders are kind of like, blue, blue, blue.

[Marvin]

The principal's leading the charge.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, get off your ass in jam. I'm like, good cheer though. Don in Oregon. Hi, Don. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning. Dan Dennett, first time, long time. I have an idea for salvaging the All Star weekend and that is to make it a generational tournament where you set it up like the old school at the park half court games. You got teams, maybe play four on four, have six guys, so you got a couple subs that'll accommodate the older fellas playing for bragging rights. Add a little to that goat debate.

[Dan Patrick]

Don, it's, it's a torn Achilles waiting to happen and we can't have that. Now, I don't want to see old men out there, but I would have them out there for the three point shooting contest. You get one rack of balls, you have to shoot five of them and that would be enough for the older guys that they wouldn't get winded. It's stationary. If you can put some of these great shooters in the past, you know, from the past out there, I think it would be fun. Yes.

[Seaton]

I think you guys are all underestimating the reluctance of a formerly great athlete's willingness to go out on a field and, or a court and show what he can't do anymore.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, I want to protect him from him.

[Seaton]

Right. But even shooting, I don't even know, like you could get a great shooter out there. They're not. If they're not able to do it the way that we remember them doing it, they don't want to do that to themselves.

[Dan Patrick]

Reggie Miller would go out there.

[Seaton]

I don't know if he would.

[Dan Patrick]

You could put Reggie out there. You could put Ray Ellen out there, Steve Kerr out there, Craig Hodges out.

[Seaton]

There, Ray Allen a little closer to his former glory than those other guys. I don't know that any of those dudes want to go out there and be like, I guess I can't really shoot anymore. That stinks.

[Dan Patrick]

Anyway, Reggie Miller would go out there. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. Reg would go out there and Reg would probably make all five of them.

[Seaton]

And not, not shooting against another retired guy, shooting against an active guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, you're part of a team.

[Seaton]

Okay, so you're all part of a team.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So you pick wherever you want to be on, on the court, whatever rack you want. You know, some guys are really good, top of the key. Some guys are good from the side. Reggie wouldn't be top of the key. He'd be to the side. Now, I'm not saying Larry Bird's gonna want to go out there. But I think you could get, you know, some of these guys who were great shooters and it never leaves you. Shooting does not leave you. It doesn't. Yes. Paulie.

[Paulie]

I agree with Seaton. They don't want to be embarrassed. But older athletes also like to remind people once in a while, hey, I still have it. Like Reggie, when we were in San Antonio, I think it was. He's like, let's go. I'll bet you Tim Legler's in.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. Legs would do it.

[Paulie]

He's in.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes. How about Jeff Hornacek in now? He wasn't a three point shooter.

[Paulie]

He. He won it twice. I got him winning at 98 in 2000.

[Dan Patrick]

But he wasn't a three point shooter, though. I think his numbers don't bear that out. That he was a three point shooter.

[Paulie]

He saved it for all star jumper contest.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Oh, man. Mid range jumper.

[Seaton]

Mid range jumper.

[Dan Patrick]

Horny. What a great nickname. Horny. Yes. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

DP I'm sorry, but we can't do this because I was at this all star game 2019 in Charlotte. They had legends due to three point shootout and it did not go well in Charlotte.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. You only get one rack.

[Marvin]

They all got. So the four guys made 6 of 25 shots. Dell Curry went 2 of 10. Mark Price 1 of 5. Glen Rice 3 of 5.

[Dan Patrick]

How about we edit around it like we will. We'll edit that. We won't do it live, but we'll come on, produce it up a little bit. Okay. Man, those guys didn't miss.

[Marvin]

He went two for two. But there's five balls there.

[Seaton]

Eric.

[Dan Patrick]

Eric And Tucson. Good morning, Eric. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Good morning, Dan. Hey, thank you for taking my call again. Just a couple thoughts. One on the all star game. All star games in general. I'm an old guy. I'm 61, but I think we just got to give up the ghosts on these. The purpose they had back in the day was we as fans got to see players we wouldn't have a chance to see any other time. And those days are gone. And now we're just trying to find filler and it's just not working. The only option I have for the NBA is that possibly the mid season tournament championship game takes place over this window. Outside of that, let it go. And then the other comment is on the load management. And I'm going to honestly admit that this is a little bit off memory. So I'm not quite sure of my timeline here, but one guy I think Gets a bit of a pass on. This is LeBron, because I distinctly remember, I think it was his first run through Cleveland. He took a week mid season and went to Miami and worked out with Dwyane Wade. I don't know if it was the same period as the banana boat incident, but that was the first time I remember an all star player taking a break for a longer period of time. More so than just San Antonio saying, one player's out for one game.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but LeBron has played more games than anybody and took care of himself better than anybody. And the fact that he's been doing it for 21 years, if he did now, I don't remember him taking timeout during the season where he's going to go work out with Dwayne Wade. It feels like a conflict of interest there. But, I mean, maybe he did, but that guy played games. He, he, it was a couple years ago. He wanted to play in all 82 games. I mean, he took it personally. He wanted to show the younger players that he, he could play all of these games.

[Paulie]

Yes, Pauline, in LeBron's first seven seasons, all in Cleveland, he never played fewer than 75 games. And I can't find anything that says he left his team mid season to go play pickup with Dwyane Wade, a competitor.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, this isn't like Rodman going to Vegas. Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit different, but no, LeBron played now this year once. He missed like 16 or 17 games already, but. And he can't qualify for the all N B A. I don't think he's a first sec. I mean, he's not a second or third team guy anyway. And maybe realizing that maybe, you know, trying to rest himself a little bit to get ready for the second half.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, the past two years, LeBron has played 71 games in 70 games. 35 minutes per game. He's on pace this year to play 70 games. So he is not a 62 game guy. You know, he's 70 is pretty respectable when you're 40.

[Dan Patrick]

He. Well, he won't be able to play 70.

[Paulie]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

He's already missed 16.

[Paulie]

Yeah. So his pace is lower.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Now he won't even come close.

[Paulie]

The past two years, 71 and 70.

[Dan Patrick]

Tony in California. Hi, Tony. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Good morning. So wait, did Mannix just say the Clippers are no good? That guy needs to stop running his mouth and stay in his lane, man. Kawhi just went up to Minnesota and made Ant look like a rookie dropped 41 on him in three quarters and sat on the fourth quarter.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, they are two games under.500.

[Caller]

The hot team. 20 and seven since going six and 21. And we got better. We got better at the trade deadline, too, I believe.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but so much so. James Harden wanted out of Los Angeles because he didn't think you were a contender.

[Caller]

It's not fair, Dan. We got Mather, and Matheran's a good player, and he's hate. He's from Haiti. So we got that going for us.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, congratulations. Thank you, Tony. Yeah. I mean, the Clippers story is kind of crazy. And then I wonder if Kawhi's there next year. By the way, where do we stand with the fake job and the money that he got and Pablo Torre? And is the NBA investigating? Yes, Marvin, this is a perfect weekend.

[Marvin]

To bring that up, too.

[Dan Patrick]

It would be. Commissioner, commissioner, Commissioner, can we. Can we talk about the Clipper situation here with the jobs? And can we go back to tanking questions, please? No. Commissioner, we want to ask you about this. Yeah. I wonder if Kawhi's there next year.

[Marvin]

Yes, Barbara, Ask him about traveling, caring. There's gonna be no good questions for the commissioner.

[Dan Patrick]

Fritz. He just found something.

[Todd]

Windhorse wrote a column in the beginning of March of 2016 about the LeBron spending time in Miami, and he did work out with Dwayne Wade. But Cavaliers players were given Tuesday and Wednesday off by coach Lou after they played three games in the previous four days. James flew to Miami on Tuesday with his family, spent some time in the warm weather. The Cavs were aware of the trip, had no issue with him going.

[Dan Patrick]

But he didn't miss games, right?

[Todd]

Yeah. They were given Tuesday and Wednesday off, so I'm assuming that they. There's no games that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So these are off days.

[Todd]

Yeah, they had a few days break since they played a number of games.

[Seaton]

I mean, come on.

[Dan Patrick]

But he didn't miss any games. And he did take his family with him. I like how they add that to the art. He had his family.

[Seaton]

That officially makes it a vacation. Family goes, oh, this is real.

[Dan Patrick]

We've somehow gotten to the end of the show. We're going to come back. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow. I think the Giants new head coach, John Harbaugh is joining us tomorrow. Sure is. Okay. Who has it better than we do? No. Okay. Are the Giants going to be one of those teams that makes the leap that they go up? I. I wonder what Vegas has the best Odds for the teams that didn't make the playoffs to make the playoffs next year. I'll bet the Giants pretty high up on that list. All right, we'll come back. What we learn what's in store tomorrow, right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. A meet Friday. The Giants new head coach, John Harbaugh will join us. Paul in Boise joins us now. Good morning, Paul. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, D.P. first time, long time. Thanks for taking my call this morning. I, I had an idea for All Star Weekend that I've had for a long time, and I think it'd be great for the dunk contest. I think they should do a game of Horse or, or call it Dunk D U N K or something like that. And you could kind of see then who could come up with a creative dunk and if the other guys could replicate it because then you wouldn't have to sit through missed dunks and a time frame and, you know, subjective scoring, whatever that might be.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they have a certain amount of time they have to fill. They don't mind if there's missed dunks or I think that if you miss a dunk, then that, you know, that score should count against you. But, you know, you get a couple of tries here. I don't tune into the dunk contest. Mac McClung. I remember seeing him in high school and realized just how great a leaper he was. I don't think he displayed that in college when he was at Georgetown and I think Texas Tech. But watching him in the G League, then you had an idea of, wow, you know, something a little different. Got a white guy, he's small, and he's the best dunker in the house. But then it was, well, he's not on an NBA team. And then I think Orlando picked him up or something for a couple of games. Hey, he's on an NBA team. Put him in the slam dunk contest. Okay, we're done with the contest. Send him back to the G League. He dominates the G League and he puts up 30 a night in the G League. But there is such a. It's incredible when you watch even G League or you're watching these AAU or you're watching, you know, pick up All Star games, the incredible talent that you see, yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

And it's incredible because you see his game. He's like putting up 40 a night. Like, why can't he do that? Because they already have a guy that can do that on the NBA. They need you to stand in the corner and hit open threes. And if you can't do that, you can't stay in the league.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for the phone call, Paul. Mark in Albany. Hi Mark. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. First time, long time. 511185 on my wedding day. Just wanted to follow up. You guys are talking about the Pablo Torre and Kawhi thing. I know we don't have the best relationship with Metalark media and the Levitart show after last year's Super Bowl. Thanks a lot, Todd. But he had dropped a bomb yesterday. 5am has a voicemail from Jerry west calling the Lakers a BLEEP show and saying that LeBron would be or excuse me, Kawhi would pretty much be in LeBron's coattail. And more or less, even though he'd be the best player in the team, he wouldn't even be front. So just curious to see if anything does come up this weekend at the All Star Game. If anything comes up, we don't quite want to answer any questions and who knows if we even play.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I don't even. I haven't followed that. I'm still looking for answers with Kawhi in his summer job that he got paid for and it's the NBA going to do anything. They're going to take away draft picks or find the Clippers or both. But the Clippers are hosting the All Star Game. The other part of Pablo and a Jerry west comment recording. I don't know anything about that. And what was the problem with Meadowlark Dan Levitard show last year at the Super Bowl?

[Todd]

I wasn't sure what he was referring to.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we have a great relationship with Dan Lebatard. I don't, I don't know if we had a falling out and I'm unaware of.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, did someone just sent a note. Did Todd get the name of Meadowlark wrong or something wrong with Dan Lebatard? They said. I just got a note from someone. I don't recall it exactly.

[Dan Patrick]

But it was a big deal apparently. Did, did you have the wrong title for somebody that I vaguely remember that I had.

[Todd]

We called it something or I put it on the sheet wrong. But I don't think it became some kind of class action lawsuit or something like that. I don't remember Being like some. Everybody was all of a sudden upset with each other.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, I had to put out the fire not to make sure that it done didn't become a class action lawsuit. Yes.

[Paulie]

Yeah, the I team just tracked this down. Thank you, I team. And back. Fritzi, on the one sheet for Dan Levitard, put Metalard Medial Art Media, which.

[Seaton]

Could have turned into a class action lawsuit, got to admit.

[Dan Patrick]

And if you've seen Levitra, I mean, you could say.

[Seaton]

Not necessary.

[Paulie]

Why would you do that?

[Seaton]

That is not necessary.

[Dan Patrick]

I, I sometimes I don't know if this thing is on.

[Paulie]

He's a healthy guy.

[Marvin]

What was love like?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my God. I was talking to Levitard yesterday. Plus, you got to gear up when he calls. You got to. You're in for the long haul. Because my wife saw my phone ring, and she goes, okay, 30 minutes, then we're gonna have dinner. She kept you. No, she knew that it was gonna be at least 30 minutes. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, that was not intentional. But looking at my keyboard, there are four letters between the D and the K, so I don't know why I put that. It's not like I hit the letter one to the left or one to the right. There's F, G, H, and J between.

[Dan Patrick]

The D and the K. Dan Lebatard. Meadow Lard.

[Todd]

It seems like I was trying to be cute because the letters are nowhere near each other on the keyboard, but could assure you I wouldn't put metal lard. That's unprofessional, and it would embarrass you to say that by accident. Metal lard, lamp. You know, it's looking.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I did say it.

[Todd]

You did. Which was I kind of screwed you.

[Dan Patrick]

Over, and the whole company and Dan Lebaton.

[Todd]

Yeah. Embarrassed everybody.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You trashed Dan Lebatard.

[Todd]

All I could do is apologize.

[Dan Patrick]

Final results of the poll question. Satan, Meadow. Meadow, Lard. I forgot all about that. That's so good.

[Seaton]

Let's see. We have a couple of poll questions up there right now. Which would you rather from player? Would you rather 60 games for 15 years or 82 games for 11 years? It's 82 for 11. Currently winning with about 71% of that vote. And if you were the Texans, would you extend CJ Stroud right now? 75 of the audience say no. No, they wouldn't.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Seaton]

They would not extend him right now.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, all right. Trying to stay in my lane. Certain things. I just have to stay in my lane. How dare you criticize, critique, C.J. stroud and the Texans. Let's go around the room, see if we learned anything on the program. Todd, you learned anything.

[Todd]

I did. Kevin Durant says don't worry about USA players playing hard in the All Star game. Ask Luca and Joker who don't give a full effort.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton, what did you learn today?

[Seaton]

Based on callers, the state of Illinois wants you to stay in your lane. That's Chicago and Illinois. Those have been the main stay in.

[Dan Patrick]

Your lane coming after me in the Midwest.

[Seaton]

Heck, Chicago.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, what'd you learn today?

[Marvin]

That the Bears will be in Super Bowl 61.

[Dan Patrick]

If I look at the last 20 years, you lose and then you come back and then you play in the Super Bowl. Just saying. Paul, what you learned today.

[Paulie]

This Stroud story on this show has legs.

[Dan Patrick]

Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you on our Meat Friday. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.