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Liberty Liberty Liberty Liberty. Niall Horan presents Dinner Party live on tour performing across North America in 2027. Get tickets now@livenation.com you are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour on this Wednesday. Gangs all here. Fritzi, Dylan, Marv, Paulie, yours truly. The back room guys. We appreciate your phone calls every day. 877 3DP Show Good Morning if you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner. Watch all three hours if you like and come on and see the best man cave in the business. We will get to more of your phone calls coming up. We'll talk some football with Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback fresh off the owners meetings. Why don't we have dates for the Atlanta super bowl and Nashville Super Bowl? I'm guessing we probably don't have one for the Vegas super bowl as well. It's because the NFL is waiting if there's going to be an 18th 18 game schedule. So we'll talk to Albert coming up knicks were down 22, came back, forced overtime. They win and they cover. They close out on a 44 to 11 run. You got next game tomorrow night, Knicks favored by six and a half. And then you got Spurs, Thunder, the Thunder favored by six and a half tonight. Game two, you have Golden Knights at the Avalanche. Game one as well. The Mavs. Surprise, surprise, Jason Kidd fired and they had it. They had extended his contract and, and he has four years, $20 million, I believe, 44 years, $40 million guaranteed. This was basically anybody who had anything to do with Luka John Church being traded. He there. They're shown the door and we're going to start over and build around Cooper flag. All right, Dylan, poll question for the final hour of the program is what? Yeah, Dan, how much of an advantage or disadvantage is travel distance for NFL teams over the course of a season? Well, I'm looking at this, these numbers here and the NFL. I hope somebody gets to ask the commissioner this. The Niners will have traveled 38,000 miles this year. With their schedule, the panthers will travel 30,000 miles less. Why the disparity? And you send the Niners to Australia, so they already have the most mileage this year, 38,000. Panthers are just under 9,000. That's an incredible disparity there. And I didn't even think of this, of looking at the different teams and how much they will travel. You know, Seattle is always going to travel a lot. But you know, in the Western Conference you're or in the west, you're able to play in San Francisco, you play in Arizona, you play in Los Angeles. So they try to cut down on that. It's the other games in the other cities that you have to factor in as well. But the niners will travel 38,000 miles this upcoming season. Yeah, Paul, I know that's an interesting stat.
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Dan Patrick
Do you think it has any real
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Paul Pabst
effects on the athletes? Well, when you're going cross country and you're going across a couple of time zones, you know, are they going to make you play at 1 o'? Clock? Do you get at least a 4:30? Do you get a Sunday night game? Is it a Monday night game? So do I think. Yeah, I do. I think it has an impact, yes, Dylan? Yeah, I think even if you weren't playing football, if it was just a regular old job and over the course of whatever six months, you're traveling 38,000
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Dan Patrick
miles biplane or 8,000 miles, I feel
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Paul Pabst
like you'll be at the end of that. You'd be significantly more worn down yes. Yeah. As much travel as I used to do when I was at the mothership or at NBC, you know, it'll be. It'll beat you up, quietly beat you up. And these guys are playing a sport where they do literally get beat up. I was wondering about this. With the Knicks with the come from behind win, imagine that was game seven of the NBA Finals. Would that surpass 28. Three Super Bowl, Patriots and the Falcons. I'm going to hear from Atlanta fans, oh, you somehow worked work the Falcons back into a conversation. But imagine being down 22, Game 7, NBA Finals. Would that surpass 28. Three in the Super Bowl? Marvin? No, because Tom Brady was involved in a 28.3 comeback. But you had a New York team coming back 22 down. So anything that happens in New York, you know it's going to be viewed as far more important. But you're right about Tom Brady doing it. If it was Drew Bledsoe who did it, you know, it wouldn't be the same. But let's say Lakers, Knicks, the Knicks came back from 22 down in the finals, game seven. How would we view this? Because this, this loss can be wiped away by Cleveland. Like, like we can. This can be for forgettable to a certain degree if you go and win. Because then we go, oh, yeah. Remember they got blown out and they came back to win. Like it even adds to the story of them advancing, but it might just hang there in the air and you have a best of seven. So it's different than, you know, college football or NFL where it's one and done. Yeah. Paul. Okay, if this happened in game seven of a final final, I think it
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Dan Patrick
would be second to 28:3 because 28:3,
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Paul Pabst
the Falcons had the ball a couple
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Dan Patrick
times where if they would have gotten one more first down, it probably would have been over maybe twice. They could have just gotten one more
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Paul Pabst
set of downs and ended it. Basketball has back and forth. You can't keep the ball. So the nature of football, you could prevent Tom Brady from getting the ball back. NBA playoffs continue. Spurs, Thunder tonight on NBC. And Peacock, which is where you can find this program. Thank you for downloading the app. Mike Brown, Knicks head coach, talked about Jalen Brunson's brilliance last night.
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Dan Patrick
Great win by our guys and obviously we don't get it done. If Jalen Brunson doesn't play like one
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Paul Pabst
of the MVP guys in the league. He was phenomenal. He did what he was supposed to do tonight.
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Dan Patrick
Definitely helped us get the win.
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Paul Pabst
Now here's Kenny Atkinson The Cleveland Cavaliers head coach, and he uses some interesting words to describe his team and what happened.
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Dan Patrick
They hit some really tough shots in that fourth quarter.
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Paul Pabst
You know, those two threes, prayer threes and a shot clock.
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Dan Patrick
We got a little unlucky, quite honestly. Brunson obviously took over at the end and, you know, we started double teaming.
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Paul Pabst
I'm going to try to try to do some different things, but listen, I'm super proud of the way our group played. We played great basketball tonight for, you know, three quarters. Unfortunately, fourth quarter. They dominated us in the fourth quarter. That pesky fourth quarter. Other than that, I'm really proud of what we did. That's why they play four quarters. Crowd is a weird description. I'm really proud of my team. I'd be prouder if they would have won the game. But they got to come up with an interest, you know, new philosophy here on playing defense. And I'm sure that's what the practice session is going to be all about today. Yes. Dylan also hoarding timeouts till the end of the game is all well and good, but not while you're in the midst of blowing a 20 point lead. Yeah. When you know he said that he wanted to keep his timeouts towards the end of the game, you don't get to take them with you and use them in game two. And they're on a run. Call a timeout. Settle down the Garden. Settle down your team. Remind them. Remind them of how they got here. Yeah. Dylan, is there any possibility that coaches are, like, afraid of getting flamed for not having timeouts at the end of the game, so they, you know, might opt to sit on them as opposed to using them earlier? Well, I'm sure that's what he thought, but at some point I do have to call a timeout. And if at the end of the game I don't have a timeout, then I have to say to the media, I chose to use a timeout there because I had to stop their momentum. And whether it worked or not, you know, if you're getting to the end of the game and you don't have a timeout, I mean, I find timeouts sometimes are overrated because a lot of times if. And I've been around the huddle where you're just listening in. I was when the NBA Finals back in the mid-90s, and I did the game on radio covering the NBA Finals, and that was the Seattle SuperSonics in the Chicago Bulls. I was privy to what was being said in the Seattle huddle. Well, there Wasn't a lot going on in there. It was basically George Carl saying, two down. And that would be. Gary Payton would get a screen, come out and get the ball. That was it. There was no motivational, hey, somebody knocked Jordan on his butt. There was. There was nothing like that. It was like, all right, all right. Getting. Getting here. All right. Like, all right. Two down. All right, all right. Okay, come on. All right, let's go. I'll be like, wow. And then, you know, they would go to me and say, oh, what'd they say? I said, well, you know, kind of what they said the last time out and the timeout before that. Two down, Gary Payton gets the ball. So sometimes you do it just to say, let's just stop. Let's just have the game stop and see what happens after that. But the way it was going with the Knicks and that crowd, and they fed off of that, and then all of a sudden the Cavaliers, you know, you're in a tsunami, and all of a sudden you can't get out. And you saw that last night.
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Dan Patrick
All right.
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Paul Pabst
The 877-3-DP-SHOP email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle DP Show Jordan in Peoria. Hi, Jordan. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Whenever you bring up 28 3, I
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Dan Patrick
just picture Al Atlanta being a little bit more sad.
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Paul Pabst
So that always makes me laugh. I was listening to the pod catching up on Monday. You guys are talking about, like, international players obviously really taking over the NBA, and I was curious if you had any insight on the development that they have in Europe today versus what they do in the United States and Canada here, and how's that translating to modern day NBA basketball? Thanks. Well, they have academies over there, whether it's soccer, basketball, and they go there, and they're professionals. They're 14, 15. Luca was 15. You're. You're being taught fundamentals. You're being taught how to be a basketball player. Not, hey, you're a shooting guard, you're a big guy. Back to the basket. That's not the way they do it. And Dirk Nowitzki talked about this when he was growing up, learning how to handle the ball and how to shoot outside. That's what they teach. We have aau, they have academies. And aau, if you've ever been to aau, you'll see a lot of things, a lot of good things, and you'll see a lot of bad things as well. Yes, Marv, While I agree with the
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Dan Patrick
development process that international play has, I think this whole International players taking over.
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Paul Pabst
The NBA is a bit overblown.
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Dan Patrick
The international players can't even field a
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Paul Pabst
full NBA all star roster.
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Dan Patrick
They split it into eights. They couldn't even get 12 international players.
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Paul Pabst
They're top heavy. But how many other guys from Slovenia or Serbia can you name? I'll wait.
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Dan Patrick
Usa.
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Paul Pabst
Usa. Usa. All right, Mark, but the best basketball players in the world are not from the United States. Right, you're right, but he said taking over. No, no, but taking over. And you're right. Top heavy, but the best players are not from the United States. So is it just a coincidence or, you know, is there something systemic that these players getting the proper tutelage are. You know, they have a little bit of a head start with fundamentals, with the way they're taught. You know, it's not an AAU style that they're brought up in. They're brought up in maybe a little bit more structure. But you can't deny the best players. Right now, the best five or six players are not from the United States. Yes, Mark, but guys like Embiid and Shay, they grew up in the AAU system, right? So sometimes they're just really great players from a different part of the world. So it might not be, hey, they're developed better over there. Luka and you know, Jokic, they're anomalies. Yes. Paul. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
I've got this SI article from a
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Paul Pabst
few years ago and they said the big difference is in Europe there's high practice to game ratios. It's more about practice than playing weekend games. And that if you're 15 and you're a star, you'll stay in a certain program for a long time.
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Dan Patrick
You don't go year to year joining other places.
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Paul Pabst
Also keep this in mind. You know, the Michigan Wolverines national title team is a little bit younger than the current starting lineup for okc. Get ready for LSU basketball this year, folks, because this is going to be a train wreck for the NCAA because Will Wade is back. They're getting players. They've got a couple of guys who've already spent time with the Celtics and Jazz in the G League. They got a player who's been playing professionally overseas for years. I think it's Marcio Santos. He's 23. Then they got a 25 year old former Celtics draft pick and. And they also have another player who played overseas and has already been drafted into the NBA. Illinois did this, brought in players who knows how old they are, but you're getting somebody who's 25 who has played professionally and gets to play in college. Something's wrong with that. Once you sign a professional contract or once you're drafted, you shouldn't be able to play. But LSU is going to, they're going to make a mockery of this. Like, oh, we can bring in whoever we want. Like, okay, lsu. And they're all in on this. Like, I don't know what their morals or standards are. I don't think they care. Yes, Dylan. It sort of reminds me of how the hockey pipeline works because I had to go from like high school and then play juniors and then go to college. So you'd be in like freshman class and be like, oh, how old are you, like 23? Yes, Paul, I was just thinking, you're
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Dan Patrick
at LSU, you're in like a astronomy class and some 27 year old guy from Latvia walks in with a beard.
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Paul Pabst
He's calling his wife and kids between classes smoking heaters. Yes, yes, Tom.
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Dan Patrick
Maybe that's exactly what the sport needs for someone to make a mockery of it. Someone's going to show something to such an extreme level where eventually someone feels like, whether it's competing schools or the ncaa, we gotta do something about this. Finally. This is obnoxious.
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, well, I don't know how much power they have. It's like when I told you this a couple of weeks ago and you had people say, I think you've greatly inflated the amount of money that's attached to these college programs. I said that they were. There were certain schools approaching $40 million, football wise, with their salaries, with the amount of money attached, 40 million. And that's the case then, you know, then there was some data that came out and it showed like, there's three or four football programs that are going to spend $40 million. Meanwhile, we're doing away with secondary sports at a rapid rate. It's everybody all in. Hey, I can donate a dollar. Well, don't have that dollar. Go to the tennis team or softball team. Have it. Go to the football team. Yes, Dylan, it just goes to show how crazy the landscape was before. Like, they have no problem shooting, shelling out $50 million for a team from like a financial standpoint. So they've been profiting buckets for just ever. I also wonder about this. I know it's crazy to say this, but like the academics, when you got guys who were coming over from Europe.
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Dan Patrick
Come on, dude.
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Paul Pabst
I know, I know. Once again, one of my goals this year is have somebody declared academically ineligible in football or basketball. A big name just, just So I can feel better about kind of teetering on the brink of being declared academically ineligible. Oh, but you're going to bring over 25 year olds. Are they going to school? Like, what are we doing? Yeah, get off my lawn. I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. Let me take a break. Albert Brer, the Monday morning court. What, Paul?
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Dan Patrick
Okay, I'm going to send a note to the NCAA with a simple question. You want to hear it or should I save it? I'm going to give it to you now.
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Paul Pabst
Do you have to be registered in classes to play college sports? All right, you take a break. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, will join us on Wednesday. After this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. Would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is the fifth Hour? I'll tell you. It's a spin off of the Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen? Picture, if you will, a world where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more every week. Explore some amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to the fifth hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast. Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast.
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Dan Patrick
Well, we didn't invent it. We, we just contributed to people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
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Paul Pabst
So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and we were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
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Dan Patrick
This is how you guys remember it going down?
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Paul Pabst
Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a
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Dan Patrick
bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey Jonas.
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Paul Pabst
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas and offered it
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Dan Patrick
up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Paul Pabst
But thanks for remembering that.
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Dan Patrick
Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Paul Pabst
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy.
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Dan Patrick
Not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
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Paul Pabst
Me and Hilar. Various guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week.
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Dan Patrick
My guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head
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Paul Pabst
writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
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Dan Patrick
We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
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Paul Pabst
Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the
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Dan Patrick
toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset and what it
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Paul Pabst
really takes to win on clay.
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Dan Patrick
Jen Chunwin. She won.
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Paul Pabst
I mean, she went down in three to Rybakina.
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Dan Patrick
But I'm delighted she's an outsider to
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Paul Pabst
win the French for me and she likes Click Listen.
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Dan Patrick
Lena Rybakina is arguably the best player in the world right now and I actually win on any surface because if she's serving well, good luck.
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Paul Pabst
Consider this your courtside seat to the French Open.
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Dan Patrick
Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Paul Pabst
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports, Jacob Kingston grew up
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Dan Patrick
in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth.
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Paul Pabst
He felt destined for greatness.
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Dan Patrick
So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary he doesn't look back.
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Paul Pabst
Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets meeting the president of Turkey.
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Dan Patrick
I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one
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Paul Pabst
of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levan, this went to a billion dollar fraud.
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Dan Patrick
But with two kings from entirely different worlds.
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Paul Pabst
Just how long can their empire survive
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Dan Patrick
the largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Lavon.
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Paul Pabst
You're ruining my life.
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Dan Patrick
Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the
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Paul Pabst
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll hear from Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback fresh off the owners meetings. And we now know that the Super Bowls are set for the next couple of years. We just don't know the dates for we Know where it's going to be. We don't know when it's going to be, which is crazy. Crazy. But that means they're waiting for that 18 game schedule. Yes. Marv, you can't plan your vacation yet after Atlanta, 2028. Oh, I know. I don't even know when I'm retiring. Rhonda in Texas. Good morning, Rhonda. What's on your mind? Good morning, Dan. Thank you for taking my call. Just want to say that you and the Danettes in the back room guys are the absolute best of the. So I have a possible conspiracy theory question for you. Knowing that you've shared your retirement date will be after the Atlanta Super Bowl, 2028. Could it be intentional that no date has been set for that event because they and we all want to continue enjoying the Dan Patrick show after 2028. Thanks, Dan. Thank you, Rhonda. Yeah, I, I understand what you're saying. I'm following the plot line there. Yes. Dylan, have you thought about sticking it out to 2030 so we could take a trip to Nashville as a little squad, as a nice little bachelorette party? Well, since I was the first to report it, then maybe we'll take the maybe. Yes. Yes, Marv. Now, if you are retiring in 2028,
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Dan Patrick
are we having a retirement party at Magic City?
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Paul Pabst
No, my family will be there. I think that might be hard to. So my question still stands. Are we having. Oh, you guys can have the retirement party there if you want. Yes, Paul, how about if somehow some
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Dan Patrick
version of this show continues down the road, you come down to Nashville and
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Paul Pabst
hang with us that week for the Super Bowl? Okay, I will do that. Yeah. So. So let's say mission accomplished. Let's say when I'm done that the show, the guts of the show, the structure of the show, the look of the show, every. Everything stays the same. But you get somebody who will sit in my chair. Yeah. Okay. A hand off to a new host
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Dan Patrick
and then that you come down, you hang out during super bowl week, do
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Paul Pabst
a couple segments, go do some fun stuff. Yeah, I would do that. So the Dan Patrick show presenting. And then you would have the host name, and then we would do that. And then 2030, I would join you in Nashville at the Super Bowl.
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Dan Patrick
Exactly. Like Tyler Perry presents.
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Paul Pabst
Yes. He was raking in money. It's Dan Patrick Presents. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. All right. Jim in South Carolina. Hi, Jim. What's on your mind today? Dan, how are you? Good, good, good, good, good. Hey, got a thought regarding your daughter's wedding in the big speech, I, I chime. I talked into a show the other day, kind of mid show and I heard you throwing out a few lines in French and I didn't know maybe it was tied in with Canadians hockey game or something like that, but you delivered them pretty good. You sounded like you at least were fluent enough to use some sentences potentially in a speech. And I thought maybe when you're delivering the speech, if things are feeling a little squirrely, it might be a calming way to go to throw out a few lines or two in French to take, take the edge off. Thank you, Jim. Well, I might just say je t'. Aime. I love you. Yes, Dylan, Just do the whole thing in Mandarin, no tears. Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, joining us. Albert, fresh off the owners meetings and here was something that stood out to me and thank you for joining us. The owners passed a policy yesterday to eliminate protections for international games. Now any game can be moved to an international spot, adding value to the packages, including those games as well. So everything's available to move a game internationally.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I think like this is sort of what the NFL has wanted, the league office has wanted for a while is to take all these protections away. And we've seen it like over the years, right? Like, so they went from, you know, only allowing teams to play one Thursday night game per year to two, you know, now they can go and play a third game on a Friday night, which doesn't count as a Thursday night. You don't have to have a bye week anymore. In fact, I think more teams that not don't have a bye week after their international trips this year. I think the two teams that are coming back from Rio on a Sunday night on, on a, on a, on a Sunday are playing the next week. So they've sort of removed all of these different things. And I think, you know, the obvious reason why is, you know, goes back to, you know, wanting to satisfy all the partners who they're hoping will bid at a very, very high level over the next few years to either keep or get those packages. So I mean, it's the reality of it. Like I guess we all have bosses, right? And Roger Goodell's bosses are the owners. And it looks like the owners, I don't know if I call them their bosses, maybe the ones who are directing traffic for the owners or the television networks.
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Paul Pabst
We know where the Super Bowls are going to be the next couple of years, but we don't know the date of the Super Bowls. Why?
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Dan Patrick
I mean, I've for a while thought that the reason why is because they're considering going to 18 games. And, and I think that's been something that I would just tell you this. Like, I don't think the people in Atlanta are real happy that they don't have a date yet because for the people who don't know, like the way this works, you block off, you know, two different weeks. You have like a week where you can move the game if it needs to be moved, and, you know, it allows for the league to have some flexibility. Well, you know, if you don't know when the game's going to be because you don't know what your schedule is going to be, and you just say it's February, you got to block off the whole month, you know. And so what does that mean? Well, that means convention space in the city that they're going to is blocked off. That means hotels are blocked off. That means, you know, these cities can't really plan for and you know, make plans for what, weeks. The super bowl won't be there. And that blocks other business from coming into town. And so obviously the NFL has the hammer in these situations. Those cities are going to want to have the super bowl almost regardless of the circumstances. But, you know, I, I do know, like even, you know, as far back as, you know, really a year and a half ago, the Atlanta people were getting a little impatient with the fact that they didn't have a date and the fact that that Atlanta super bowl, which is Super Bowl 60, and I got to get the numbers right in the head, 62, which is the end of the 2027 season. The fact that that doesn't have a date, hasn't had a date like this late in the game, has been a smoking gun for a lot of people, you know, and looking at it and saying that's when the NFL wants to go to the 18 game season. And you know, my guess would be the reason they had 27 marked is because they want to have the 18 game season in place before they go to market with the new television deals, whether those goes to the broadcast networks or the streamers. And so there are a lot of moving pieces here, but certainly the owners want to go to 18 games and the question can be how soon they can do it and they can finally actually start to negotiate that. Now that the NFL PA has an executive director in place and J.C. treader,
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Paul Pabst
what's stopping the NFL from going to 18 games?
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Dan Patrick
The players, I mean, the players negotiated the right to veto it. And so when they agreed to go to 17 games. You know, they, they, they, they negotiated that the owners would need their sign off to go to 18. And so I think the question then becomes, what do the players get back? I mean, I think people, people look at this in like a little bit of a vacuum. You know what I mean? They just think, well, that's going to be a little tougher for them to get to 18 games, get through an 18 game, a playoff team, that could be 21 or 22 games. And that's true, you know, but I think for all players, there's also the element of getting to free agency, getting your second contract, getting the really big money, you know, so when it was 16 games, if you think about it, it's four years unrestricted free agency in the NFL, right? So that means you have to get through 64 games healthy. Then they go to 17 game season, that's 68 games healthy. Now it's going to be 72 games healthy. Whenever they go to 18 games, that's a full half season that they're adding. Just as far as like what a player has to make it through physically to get to a second contract. So, yeah, if I'm the players, I look at that, you got to, like I'm saying, you got to make it easier for us to get to our second contracts to get the really big money if we're going to do this, you know. So does that mean allowing for players to get to unrestricted free agency after three years, does that mean loosening the reins on franchise tags? There are all sorts of things that could be negotiated, but I think it's pretty clear that there's going to have to be some sort of give back to the players if they're going to sign off on 18 games.
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Paul Pabst
Talking to Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter, I didn't realize this. I don't know if this is a big issue. It seems like one to me. The Panthers will travel 8,700 miles this upcoming season. The 49ers will travel 38,000 miles. Is this an issue with the scheduling and with ownership of the Niners? I don't, I don't know if this is burner stuff, but that, to me, that's a huge, huge disparity there.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And Kyle Shanahan didn't seem real happy when, when the idea of Australia was presented to him at the owners meetings. I mean, if you remember that, I think it was Florio he was on with. Right. And he said, I mean, like, they're Making us go to Mexico City already and now we have to go to Australia. Why don't you make the Rams come to Mexico City with us instead? They gave the Rams an extra day of rest coming off of Australia. They didn't give it to the Niners. So you can read that, read into that what you, what you want. But I think you've seen it already. I mean, I, I think one nuance, like the Patriots season last year, right. Like we talked about how easy their schedule is. Do you know, they didn't go east, they didn't go west of Mississippi until the super bowl or until the, I'm sorry, until the AFC Championship game. Isn't that crazy?
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Paul Pabst
Yes. Wow.
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Dan Patrick
They did not go west. And so not only was their schedule a little soft, they also didn't go west of Mississippi until deep in the playoffs, the AFC title game in Denver and then the super bowl in Santa Clara, which you have two weeks ahead of. It's, I mean, you think about these things, right? Like in these. And so like that, is that team going to be in better shape than a team that's had to travel all over kingdom come? You look at what they've done to the Chiefs the last couple of years, did that wear on them? The playoffs plus all the travel, plus all the midweek games, like, I don't know. That looked like a worn out team at the end of the year. Now, I don't know if there's a way to quantify that. Like, because what they're, what they'll tell you is we have injury data that shows this. Well, yeah, but can you prove that it's not affecting the performance of the teams? And I, and I do think that that's something that they've got to continue to look into. But I mean, I think it's, it's pretty clear here, like where their priorities are. And I don't blame them for it. They're men, right? Like, but think about it, like, I think you go back 15, 20 years. They came to the determination, like, there's only so much more we can grow in the box that we're in right now. Domestically. We, we're already up here. Like, how much higher can we go? And so, you know, they made the decision we need to grow out and we need to, instead of growing up, we need to grow out. And that means adding inventory. So that's expanded playoffs, expanded regular season, two teams in Los Angeles, you know, that's Thursday Night Football. That's the new broadcast windows on top of that. And that ultimately is going overseas, you know, and because, you know, again, they've sort of got this Wall street mentality where if you're not growing, you're failing. You know, I think the focus is on, on those areas of growth and international, you can see it with the way they're pushing. Flag is certainly a big part of that strategy.
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Paul Pabst
We're looking at cities, teams that are building stadiums. You know, Cleveland wants to have a Super Bowl. Buffalo's not going to get a Super bowl, but they'll get a draft. Minneapolis has had a Super Bowl. They're getting a draft. Coming up. Tennessee is going to get a Super Bowl. Yep. Am I leaving out anybody? Kansas City, that's. Kansas City's getting a draft.
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Dan Patrick
Kansas City's getting a new stadium. I, I, I would think that they'll get something for that. Now, my guess would be it won't be a Super bowl, but they are one of these teams that's in line to build new stadium. Washington's another one that I think will eventually get a Super Bowl.
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, just, I think it's interesting when, I mean, the draft has become so big that, like, if you're Buffalo, you're not going to get a Super bowl because the infrastructure there, you're going to get a draft. Cleveland. How does Cleveland get a Super Bowl? And I don't think they do. A drive. You don't think so? They do.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I actually, so I asked some of the Nashville people about this, and by the way, that was a really good scoop by you. I think you had that for, like, cold for a month. Right. So, but I, like, I did this, this was really interesting to me. So they have 68,000 hotel rooms right now in the metropolitan area, which is a big number for a city of that size. It's not a, it's not a big, huge city. Right. And that number is going to jump to 80,000 by the time the Super bowl comes along in February 2030. Someone told me, like, Cleveland's numbers around, like 22,000. That's a massive difference. You know, even though the Cleveland metropolitan area, actually, I believe if you look at market size is still bigger than Nashville. You know, you, Nashville's got the event space and the infrastructure, the hotels, all that different stuff. So I, I think a lot of it's going to ride on that. Like, I would, it's all, I mean, I think you sort of alluded to it, right? Like, the draft has kind of become what they give the cities that build new stadiums that aren't equipped to host Super Bowls. So, you know where I think, you know, Chicago. If they build a dome in Washington, if they build a dome, they'll get Super Bowls. With your Cleveland's and your Kansas City's, you're probably looking at getting drafts.
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Paul Pabst
Paulie keeps asking me what happens sooner, Cleveland gets a Super bowl or Cleveland goes to a Super Bowl.
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Dan Patrick
Cleveland goes to a Super Bowl. I don't think they're getting it. I don't think they're getting. I don't think they're going to host one. Does I love Cleveland, by the way. I, you know, I have a ton of friends from there. You know, like half buddies from college are from there. But this is not a shot of Cleveland. I don't think you're getting a Super Bowl.
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Paul Pabst
But if Kansas City has a dome stadium, yeah, they're getting a Super Bowl. Can they host a Super Bowl? I don't think so.
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Dan Patrick
I just. I just don't think that they have the infrastructure. And they've already hosted a draft. I think they would get maybe another one, you know, but I. I have a. I have a hard time seeing that. I just. I think you sort of have to draw the line somewhere, you know, and I. I think the experience a lot of people had in Jacksonville 20 years ago, I. It's sort of underscored, like you. There's still, like, you know, a certain number of hotel rooms, a certain amount of event space. Like, there's a. There's a certain structure that a city has to have to host one of these.
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Paul Pabst
And so does Jacksonville get a Super bowl again?
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Dan Patrick
Like, I can't imagine after what happened the last time now, I. I just don't think they have, again, the infrastructure to do it. But I, you know, again, it's a southern city, so it's a little bit different. But I. I'd be surprised if Jacksonville got another one. And they're getting a new they, but getting what, in essence is a new stadium as well.
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Paul Pabst
Thank you, Albert. Know you're busy. We appreciate you joining us.
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Dan Patrick
You got it. Thanks, Dan. I appreciate it.
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Paul Pabst
And thank you for the shout out in the Monday morning Quarterback with my. My Nashville exclusive. How long have you had that?
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Dan Patrick
You had that like a month ago, didn't you?
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Paul Pabst
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes. But you're the only one who did give me credit for that. But my source kept saying, hey, they're not going to announce it for a couple of weeks, so you're going to probably have people say that you're wrong. And the number of people are like, in Nashville, they're like, when are we getting this? Super. Are you sure we're getting this?
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Dan Patrick
I'm like, well, what sucks about stuff like that because I've been there before is like you're sitting on, you know, you report something and it's like this is going to happen. But there's always some variables. So like, it's like you can be right in the moment and something can go haywire in between. But you had a cold, no question.
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Paul Pabst
Thank you, Albert. We'll talk soon. The Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's store tomorrow right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live basketball coming up tonight. Spurs getting six and a half against the Thunder tomorrow night. The betting line already out for the Cavaliers getting six and a half against the Knicks. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. And you can watch Spurs, Thunder tonight, NBC and Peacock. I don't know if it's an actual campaign by Bill Belichick, but it feels like there's something going on with Bill. I think he's getting back talking to the media a little bit here, talking some football. He was with Barstool Sports. Was he with Big Cat Paulie? Yeah, he sure was. Okay. And he was reminiscing about why he didn't take the New York jets job. I mean, I had worked for Modell and the two trains that were coming down the tracks were Dolan and Woody Johnson. And I just felt like I'm don't feel comfortable working for whichever one of those guys ends up with the team. Nothing personal. I just, you know, I'd had a bad experience and I was either I'm going to work for a good owner or an owner that I felt comfortable with, it was shared a vision with or I'm not working for that. What is personal because you're talking about a person. Therefore it's personal of who you wouldn't want to work for. But I think maybe I'm making a little bit more out of this. But it feels like Belichick wants to get back to being Bill Belichick football coach. Not Bill Belichick in People magazine or tmz. Because of your girlfriend? Yeah, Paul. Yeah, I've been checking around.
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Dan Patrick
This is his third or fourth interview with kind of random media people, different types of media People over the past
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Paul Pabst
week and a half, I just don't see him with Big Cat and pft, because they're probably wanting to joke around a little bit and probably joked around at his expense with his girlfriend at some point. But different fan base in there. And maybe Bill's trying to. Maybe his girlfriend is saying, hey, you should go on these. These different places. I think Bill's still upset at 60 minutes with the interview and how his girlfriend was portrayed. But Bill making the rounds here with the media. Yes, Dylan. Things have been pretty quiet on the girlfriend front, though. I haven't heard much recently. That was pretty hot in the streets for a bit there. So maybe they've kind of, you know, figured everything out. Yeah, but it doesn't compare to Diana Rossini and Mike Vrabel. So, you know, it's the current Patriots coach, previous Patriots coach. You know, he got kicked to the curb. It's like, what about me? We're getting all this attention now. We're not getting any attention. I think he just wants to be known as a great football coach, and maybe that's what he's trying to get back to by doing these interviews. Nick and Irvine. Hi, Nick. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, Always a pleasure to talk to you. Listen, I, I'm a huge Laker fan here. Listen to my Golden Retriever belt pump. Okay, so your. Your Golden Retriever didn't do anything. Yeah. And the LeBron's career, I, you know, it's always hard to let him go. Kobe dropped 60, went out the perfect way. Storybook LeBron. It's going to be hard, but he has four years of eligibility, Dan. He could go back to Ohio state. Ronnie's got two years left. He could drop 20 mil and get the 10 best AAU players and lead Ohio State to a national championship. This is legit is what he could do, and I hope he does. And Belichick, as the kids would say, is low key. Washed. All right. Thank you, Nick. It is funny what you said about LeBron. With four years of eligibility going back to college, he's going to win another championship. He's going to win a championship because Michael Jordan has a national championship at North Carolina. Bob in Montana. Hi, Bob. What's on your mind? Welcome back. Oh, hey, thanks there, dp. Hey, since you love love so much, I have two quick topics. First, me and my half my age girlfriend are still going strong after eight months. If we do get married. You were talking about converting the man cave maybe into an Airbnb. Maybe we could have our wedding night at the man cave and be the first guest. That would be awesome. And then second, and more importantly, my daughter just got engaged on Sunday. Maybe I could get a copy of your speech and I'll just change the names for when she gets married next year. All right, thank you, Bob. I don't want to have the visual of Bob and his girlfriend in the man cave on their wedding night. I've met Bob before. I've gotten undressed with Bob before in Vegas when we were putting on our Elvis outfits and mine was a little too snug, a little too revealing. And so I said to Bob, how about we switch these up? Yes, Marv. Yeah, that was a different meet and greet. I'm gonna give you a bloop on that one. This day in sports history. Paul, I just got a couple for you, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
I got the New York Yankees in 1959.
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Paul Pabst
They were in last place. They hadn't been in last place for
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Dan Patrick
even a minute since 1940. So they went 19 years. 1984, Roger Clemens got his first career
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Paul Pabst
victory, and this guy doesn't get enough credit.
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Dan Patrick
1988, Mike Schmidt hit home run 535
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Paul Pabst
to go into 8th place on this date. 1930, University of California received $1,500 to research the prevention and cure of athlete's foot. Have a great day, everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.
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Dan Patrick
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Paul Pabst
Guaranteed Human.