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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Stacey Vanek Smith
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Max Chavkin
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
I decided to ask people how they felt about the penny going away. Listen to Everybody's business wherever you get your podcasts. I also want to address the Tonys on a recent episode of Checking In With Michelle Williams. I open up about feeling snubbed by the Tony Awards. Do I? I was never mad. I was disappointed because I had high hopes to hear this. And more on Disappointment and Protecting youg Peace. Listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Pablo Torre
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Did the NFL owners do something that maybe they didn't realize they were going to be caught doing? Or at least it's open to interpretation that maybe there's some collusion? We'll talk to Pablo Torre. The Pablo Torre Finds out podcast. He's been he took time out from Bill Belichick and his girlfriend to find out something else. Him and Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk have all the details and I'm going to have him. He's a very smart guy. Simplify it for me so I can understand it and maybe dumb it down is the expression that I would probably use for me. 8773 DP Show Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle it DP Show Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Thank you for doing so. The Senior Open, the US Senior Open, that'll be at the Broadmoor and Colorado Springs live on NBC Golf Channel and streaming on Peacock. Coming up this weekend, couple of phone calls in here before we wait for Pablo Torre. Mike in LA joins us on the program. Good morning, Mike. Good morning, Dan. Good morning, fellas. Native Cincinnati and Dan went to high school at Lakota. I talked to you about it before. Over the years, we always bring up Kevin Greeby. Kevin Gravy was a tough dude for me to guard. Man, that guy was badass. Dan. Yeah. Kevin Green, never tough guy. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I appreciated your story yesterday. I'd known you had health problems over the years and I appreciated your elaborating on some of the agony went through with that chronic pain because I've been dealing with it since the Vietnam thing, too. What was your lottery number, Dan? Do you remember what your lottery number was? I didn't have one. My oldest brother did. My second oldest brother missed out and then I was two years younger than him. Oh, good for you. Yeah, I thought, well, I might, I might be able to make out on this deal. No, you're not, Mike. Number 12. Bye. Bye. Might as well have gotten drafted. So it didn't work out well, being from the same hometown Same age group. I wanted to know if. If you can recall the starting five for the University of Cincinnati Bearcats and their run for a three peat in 60, 61 and 62. Okay, okay. Cincinnati Bearcats championship team, 1960, 61. I think Ed Jucker was the head coach. They had Bonham, Thacker, Yates, Hogue. I think they had a center Durking, Connie Durking's brother. I don't know if Wiesen Hahn was there yet.
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Todd Fritz
He was.
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Pablo Torre
He was. Okay. How did I do with Bonner? Bon, Thacker, Yates, Hogue.
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Todd Fritz
Tom Thacker, Tony Yates, Paul Hogue, Fred Durking you referenced. And Bob Wiesenhan.
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Pablo Torre
There you go, Mike. Thanks for calling in, by the way. I played a pickup game with these guys who played for Cincinnati and won a national title in the 60s, and we played against them. They were probably in their late 40s and they were incredibly great. Still, you know, it was one of those all star teams traveling around Ohio playing high school alumni. He's Pablo Touring and he is a contributor to Pardon the Interruption. Of course, Pablo Torre finds out. Meadowlark Media podcast. He took time out from Bill Belichick to spend a little time with the NFL. And now I want you to dumb this down though, Pablo. Okay. And just so our audience knows exactly what the NFL are they guilty of or being accused of?
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Stacey Vanek Smith
They are being accused of quite a bit. They are guilty. And that is. I'll use that word sort of conversationally here.
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Pablo Torre
Okay.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
They were found by the arbitrator to have attempted to collude with the 32 NFL teams. We have extensive documentation now, by the way, hello. Thank you for having me. This is a 61 page document that has been suppressed by both the league, the owners and the union in which. There's a treasure trove, Dan. And there's just one bit of vocabulary that I want to do at the top, which is expedited discovery. What does this mean? It means that you get all of the texts, the emails, the documents, the private messages, the slideshows, all of the secret stuff from owners, players, agents, executives. It's the treasure trove. And so the question of there is a treasure trove. There's a finding that the NFL encouraged the owners to collude to prevent the next Deshaun Watson contract. You'll recall, that was fully guaranteed. Unprecedented. They wanted to stop Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray. That same summer of 2022, they wanted to stop that from happening. So into all of this, I guess I walk in and I'm like, oh, man. I think I can get this document. And I now have a sense of why the union and the league, neither side wanted this out there. And that was the question. Why haven't we heard about this? Well, there's a. There's a lot deeper here that explains that, too.
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Pablo Torre
Okay, but do you need to have a slideshow sent out, a memo to not be stupid like the Cleveland Browns were with Deshaun Watson?
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Stacey Vanek Smith
Well, it's a great question. And so despite that, despite what seems obvious, Roger Goodell, in repeated emails with Jeff Pash as general counsel, had this exact conversation. We need to make sure that they don't do this. And so there's this thing called the NFL Management Council, Dan, and this is a shadowy entity that I didn't understand before I reported this story. But at the league annual meetings. All right, I'll set the scene. It's Palm Beach. It's a big conference room. Into this walk, the 32 owners and the representatives at the front of the room are the head and the. The executives in charge of the NFL mc. And there's a slideshow presentation. And in the slides, there is written off to the side for the presenters to see the results of these emails that Roger Goodell had written back and forth with Jeff Pash in which they wanted to spare no ambiguity as to the fact that this would be a problem if anybody else did this. So it's a great question. A horrible contract. We laughed at it at the time, and yet it's so symptomatic of the level of control and cohesion when it comes to why they didn't want to even allow the possibility that someone would be dumb enough to do this again.
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Pablo Torre
Did teams collude or was the NFL asking them to collude?
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Stacey Vanek Smith
That is the key distinction that the arbitrator drew, is that the NFL encouraged them to do it. Here are the documents. Here are the emails. But they didn't have admissions on the record. And certainly they had denials from the eight NFL owners that they had witness testimony from that they again, spoiler alert that they did not sign another Deshaun Watson style contract.
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Pablo Torre
Right.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
There were never guarantees like that again. But the arbitrator could not prove that that was because the NFL had encouraged them. What we did see, though, in these documents, it's just over and over again, private text messages between the owner of the Cardinals and the owner of the Chargers in which they are celebrating how Kyler Murray's contract was going to be not guaranteed and how, in fact, as Michael Bidwell, the Owner of the Cardinal says, and I'll just quote this, gets a text message from Dean Spanos. Dean Spano says, congratulations on signing Murray. Michael Bidwill says, thanks, Dino. These QB deals are expensive, but we limited the fully guaranteed money. Have some pretty good language, thankfully, of a QB that's worth paying. Spano says in response, your deal helps us for our quarterback next year. And so look everybody, Dan, the thing I'm struck by, right, as you go through all of this and there are so many examples like this where you have the Broncos owners deliberating internally their internal messages in which they are saying, we're not going to give Russell Wilson the guaranteed deal that he wants. Of course we're not. Even though he's demanding it. We have Lamar Jackson, the backstory of that deal, right? We have texts from Lamar, messages saying to the Ravens, I want a fully guaranteed deal in all caps. We now know, by the way, that thanks to this document, after they of course non exclusively franchise tagged him, that was their solution, that he got zero offers from other teams, zero. The mvp, zero. And so the question you ask yourself is, okay, why was any of the encouragement in that NFL MC meeting responsible for it? The arbitrator could not publicly, certainly publicly, but did not privately feel comfortable ruling. It was because of the, of the league's guidance. And so many things can be true.
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Pablo Torre
Why would the Players association be in cahoots with this since they would want their players to be paid as much as possible?
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Stacey Vanek Smith
That's the best question, right? So the NFLPA sources at the union have always, you know, they've dreamed of this, right? Because in this document, it's not merely the Mike Florios of the world who are yelling about this and saying this is how they're like backstage. Trust me, you see it in 4K quality. It's been described to me, this document as a holy grail for the union. And so why did they not want this out there? A couple of reasons. But I think the best summary to dumb it down for everybody, because there's a lot here, is that the NFL Players association has been the product of a regime change after Demora Smith, their executive director, in which J.C. treader, former Browns center, became the NFLPA president, two term president. But this same month of March 2022, by the way, he got cut from the Browns simultaneously. D. Smith, that same month, March 2022, says, okay, I guess I'm on the way out. JC Treader decides, I'm gonna run this search in a very confidential, secret way and going to Result in this new guy, Lloyd Howell, the new executive director of the union. Which is all to say that when it comes to why the union didn't act, you look to J.C. treader, you look to Lloyd Howell. There's a lot there in those two guys that's in this story, in this episode. But they did not want this released, in part because J.C. treader, in the document is referenced privately trashing Russell Wilson, blaming him, Russell Wilson, for not getting the fully guaranteed contract that everybody wanted him to. Get to your point, of course you want the full guarantees. J.C. tretter, president of the union, is privately insulting Russell Wilson, saying that he is the reason why we're never going to get the full guarantees again, effectively. And so if you're the president of the union who wants to be the next executive director of the union to replace the guy you handpicked to replace D. Smith, this is something that looks terrible, I have been told. And so, again, cover up. You could argue as much as these infractions, these, I won't say crimes for legal reasons, but as much as these missteps and embarrassing things are bad, the COVID up, damn, that's always worse, right? And the question of why didn't you hear? It's about self interest from individuals instead of the collective good of the players and the union. Which is why this is such an insanely interesting story to me.
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Pablo Torre
Before I let you go, any updates on Bill Belichick and. And his girlfriend?
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I was hoping you would ask. Yeah, I continue to report that, too. It's funny. It's funny. I don't have anything to break with you exclusively other than to say that I got some stuff cooking. As much as people think that I've become a real journalist because of this NFLPA story, nope, I'm still in the mud. Dan, I look forward to calling you from the mud, hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Pablo Torre
Will he coach opening week at North Carolina?
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I believe he will.
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Pablo Torre
Okay.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I would set the line. Number of seasons at North Carolina.
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Pablo Torre
One and a half. Oh, one.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I would say one.
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Pablo Torre
Oh, he's. I would say he's one and done.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I think he's one and done.
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Pablo Torre
Okay.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
Personally. Personally.
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Pablo Torre
Okay.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
You know, okay. Oh, boy.
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Pablo Torre
I'll wait. I'll wait for the mud. Thank you, Pablo. I don't.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I don't sling it. I just wade through it. To be clear, I'm not a mudslinger. I'm just a mud. I'm like a catfish.
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Pablo Torre
Okay.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
You know.
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Pablo Torre
All right. Pablo. Tori. Pablo Torrey finds out. You can find that podcast. It's metal arc media. Yeah, I was going to set it at one and a half, but if that's the case, he's taken the under with. With Bill. Yeah. This stuff with the NFL is kind of fascinating that it was available to find out. That's how Florio and. And Pablo found this out. And I mean, it's clearly collusion. But why would you go to great detail as he talked about the ambiguity. We can't have any ambiguity here. This has to be any. They also point out that none of the networks that carry NFL games are covering this now. Everybody's kind of like nothing here. But why would you go to great detail to tell owners not to be stupid like Jimmy Haslam in Cleveland? Do you need to really tell these guys not to be stupid and don't do a paper trail? How about a face to face conversation, not a slideshow. But do I need to tell these guys, hey, I remember there was one owner livid with the Browns when Haslam signed up to Sean Watson. But as I told the owner, I said this guy had to. He had to bribe him to play for the Cleveland Browns, baggage and all. You gave him a $230 million guaranteed deal. But that's overlooking a whole lot. And you're hoping, hoping that somehow he's able to play like he did when he got to the Houston Texans, but he'll never play again. Certainly not for the Browns. But that's pretty wild, the COVID up. You know, I can go back to the commissioner and somebody in the office saying it wasn't what Tom Brady did, it was the COVID up and lying to the commissioner. You gotta, you know, do you have a cover up here and are you lying about this? I know they don't play by the same rules. Yes. Punk.
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Todd Fritz
It feels like the Sean Watson's been off the map for forever.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah.
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Todd Fritz
Four years ago he was a starter. He had 4,800 yards for Houston. 33 touchdowns, seven picks. He's 25 years old. He's entering his prime. And those are all pro stats. Like, where is he his last three seasons in Cleveland? Seven touchdowns, five picks, seven touchdowns, four picks, five touchdowns, three picks, nine and 10 as a starter.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah. I had somebody with the Browns saying that he was afraid to run again, like he. He wasn't going to be. What made him a really good quarterback in Houston? Yes, T. He's having like a similar.
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Michelle Williams
Career arc somehow to like Ben Simmons.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, but. But Deshawn had a career like Ben Simmons did too. He won the. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Deshawn played at a really high level. Ben never played at a high level. He couldn't shoot, but he was a good passer and a really good defensive player.
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Michelle Williams
He was what was thought to be a key piece of a building. Yes, he was dominance Sixers team.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah. But Ben didn't do anything wrong. He just didn't want to play.
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Todd Fritz
Yeah, Paulie, I see what Seaton's saying, though, because if you go back to 20. 20, 20, 21, same year as Deshaun Watson. Now, he wasn't a superstar, but Ben Simmons at age 24 was averaging 15 points, seven rebounds, and seven assists a game and two steals.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah.
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Todd Fritz
You would take that for the duration.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, I guess, when you lump him into Deshaun Watson. But, you know, Ben didn't do anything, you know, off the court.
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Todd Fritz
Yes. It's apples and orange.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah. So I. That maybe that's where.
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Todd Fritz
But. But a career that was cooking, that just is not even close. Yeah, it's not like it cooled off. I mean, Ben Simmons last year played in 18 games. He started zero.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah. Can you. This is where you're trying to understand if you really want to be great or you just get paid and then, you know. And I know he had injuries, but do you want to be great? You can still recover from these injuries. Hey, there have been some really serious injuries, and guys have at least tried to come back. I just don't know if Ben loves playing basketball. You know, I've said this before. There are people really good at certain things. That doesn't mean they love what they're really good at doing. Yes.
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Max Chavkin
Marv, in basketball, more than any other sport, is a genetic sport. So if you're six, nine, man, somebody get him a basketball. Like, I'm not sure if he loves it. So, like, baseball. Baseball more so is you love the game. But if football, if you're a big guy, if you're 6, 3, 2, 4, 0, man, give him some shoulder pads. So it was probably a lot of those guys. I'm sure there's tons of guys that are seven feet tall that played Division 1, NBA even. Yeah, like, you know what? I'm tall. And let's make some money.
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Pablo Torre
How about Ben Simmons, Angel Reese, shooting contest at the all Star? Oh, no, that's not.
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Max Chavkin
That's not nice.
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Pablo Torre
What's. What's the line you had, Seaton? All right, do you want to say this line?
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Michelle Williams
Well, it's not my line. Somebody said it somewhere on social media about. It was something along the lines of, like, if you put Angel Reese in a gym by herself to shoot a thousand shots. She'd have five points and 900 rebounds.
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Todd Fritz
But compared to Ben, she'll attempt shots. Yeah, he stopped shooting.
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Pablo Torre
Oh, yeah, yeah. She gets inside by the hoop, she's probably going to put up three or four.
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Todd Fritz
This is right away.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, Ben, don't even take the shot. Yeah, she would shoot a thousand. She would make five and miss and have 995 rebounds. That's mean spirited. Take a break. We're back after this. Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. Hi, this is Jay.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
I'm the producer of the Paulie and Tony Fusco show. Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to the show. I'm here to ask you, please don't listen to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to this show so it can get canceled.
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Pablo Torre
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Max Chavkin
What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get him, Paulie. Ignore that fool. Listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Pablo Torre
He's still moving.
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Max Chavkin
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Let me check this pocket.
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Oh, mints.
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Pablo Torre
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Michelle Williams
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Pablo Torre
Absolutely perfect.
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Michelle Williams
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Pablo Torre
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Todd Fritz
Yeah. Three years would be like $210 million. Around 70. 70 plus.
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Pablo Torre
Okay. And then the other one's a four year deal. That one might be for a little over 300 million. Does that sound about right? Maybe. 313.
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Todd Fritz
Checking.
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Pablo Torre
Okay. Josh Kroenke is the president and governor of the Denver Nuggets. Governor. Governor. So. Governor. But yeah, it just kind of surprised me. Yeah, Paul.
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Todd Fritz
But. But to be fair to him, I know you don't say it out loud. Shouldn't all these teams think about even having the best player on earth considering trading the best player on earth timing with contracts? For example, if you ran the Pittsburgh Pirates, I would suggest that they trade Paul Skeens early, not late. They're going nowhere. With Paul Skeens, he's young, hot, exciting, cheap. But if they trade him a year earlier than they should, they could probably get a lot more form. The biggest trade in recent history and even a guy like Jokic, you got five. The past five years, he's been the best player on earth or second.
- [31:21]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, but with Paul Skeens, I'm going to use him as long as I can.
- [31:25]
Todd Fritz
But I see, I think that's the.
- [31:27]
Pablo Torre
He's still going to be great. Now I can. When he pitches, I don't know what the attendance is, but like now I have an identity at least for my franchise and I pitch him as much as possible until we get to the trade deadline when his contract is going to run out. And then maybe you do that. You have a bidding war here. Yes, Todd.
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Max Chavkin
And how do you expect your fan base to support a team? As soon as you have anyone that's great or remotely good, you're immediately going to get rid of them for prospects to save a buck. What does that say to anyone that wants a.
- [31:59]
Pablo Torre
If you're a Pirate fan, you can't be surprised at this. If you're a Reds fan, you can't be surprised at this. There's certain franchises where you go, he's going to look really good in a Yankee uniform or a Dodger uniform. It's unfortunate, but baseball created this and there are markets that can keep up, try to keep up, and then there are other ones that just can't. They get high draft picks, they develop the player and then they ship them off. It's like, hey, we're going to put you through high school, but you're going to go to college and grad school and we're going to get your doctorate someplace else. Yeah, Paulie.
- [32:35]
Todd Fritz
But going back to the Joker, I wonder if they look at him and may say themselves, we got his best work. We're going to pay for his gradual downslide and we're going to pay double. So we maybe shop him now when there's max value for him and put together an Oklahoma City type franchise where we're going to build with 15 draft picks over the next. Whatever.
- [32:56]
Pablo Torre
If you're confident that the people know what they're doing with the draft picks.
- [33:00]
Todd Fritz
Right.
- [33:00]
Pablo Torre
Sam Presti is one of one. What he did with okc, he's one of one. I would, I would say, hey, we'll trade Joker. We want Sam Presti and we would like to have Jalen Williams and we would like to have some draft picks here.
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Todd Fritz
Has a GM ever Been traded for. Coaches have, right?
- [33:22]
Pablo Torre
Oh, yeah, coaches have. Yeah. NFL coaches. That's happened. I don't know. I don't. Well, the Knicks were trying to trade for Jason Kidd, but yeah, Brooklyn Nets have five first round picks. That doesn't mean they know what they're going to do with them or they're going to be any good at assessing the talent. Yes.
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Max Chavkin
Mark, with the Nets, who do you put on the media guide? Just one of the draft picks, all 10 of the drafts.
- [33:52]
Pablo Torre
I would put, like, former Nets greats on there. Who is the next to join the greats who have played for the Nets.
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Max Chavkin
Like Buck Williams and Kenyon Martin and.
- [34:02]
Pablo Torre
Drosin Petrovich, Derek Coleman, Jason Kidd. You put. Put all of the former greats. Who is the next to join this list? Man? Yes, Marvin.
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Max Chavkin
Just the worst franchise. Are they the most irrelevant?
- [34:23]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, they're up there. Yeah. You just like, they're apathetic. That's the thing. You just go, like, it doesn't even really elicit a response when somebody goes, hey, Brooklyn Nets. And you go, hmm. Like your EKG doesn't, you know, doesn't move. Just like flatlining. Yes, yes.
- [34:46]
Michelle Williams
And it feels like just because of the way Brooklyn has changed over the last 20 to 30 years, you're never going to get an authentic fan base there.
- [34:54]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, that's fair.
- [34:55]
Michelle Williams
Never going to happen. That's really the main problem is that people who are from Brooklyn probably left a long time ago.
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Pablo Torre
Yes, Paul.
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Todd Fritz
And the opposite. When the Nets were in New Jersey, you had to make a trip to go see them wherever you lived.
- [35:07]
Pablo Torre
You.
- [35:07]
Todd Fritz
It was not easy to get to a Nets game. I went to a couple and it was, it was like moving.
- [35:11]
Pablo Torre
I had, you know, you really have to plan, you know, accordingly. If you're going to go to a Nets game at Brendan Byrne arena, you're going through the Lincoln Tunnel. And then you got here and I'm here and you go there and you're like, why am I here?
- [35:28]
Michelle Williams
Unless you lived in New Jersey.
- [35:30]
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
- [35:31]
Michelle Williams
And then it was okay.
- [35:32]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, yeah. Fair. But being a basketball fan, I was in New York and I went to see the Nets because it was cool.
- [35:40]
Michelle Williams
When you could just drive north up the Parkway or the turnpike and go see them.
- [35:45]
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
- [35:45]
Michelle Williams
Now you got to drive through New York City to get to Brooklyn, which no one's doing.
- [35:50]
Pablo Torre
Lori in South Carolina. Hi, Lori. What's on your mind today?
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Dan Patrick
Hi, Dan.
- [35:56]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, 51128 this morning.
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Dan Patrick
I. I'm a more recent listener via my husband's podcast.
- [36:06]
Pablo Torre
When we're driving, traveling this summer in the car. But I was wondering in your last. I'm sad to hear that you're retiring in the next, what, two and a half years maybe. But I was wondering if you'd ever consider having a female Danette on your show. Oh, I'd consider anybody. But, you know, people have to understand, when I first left the mothership, I was. I mean, everybody thought I was crazy, and I might have been, but I'm. I had to beg Fritzi to join me. Right. Would you say that's fair?
- [36:39]
Max Chavkin
There was some tough negotiations. It wasn't an immediate decision.
- [36:41]
Pablo Torre
Yes, but I. I had to kind of beg you to leave espn. I had to have you have a leap of faith. Seton. I got him at the right time. Before he moved up to ladder there, Paulie was kind of a free agent, and I was able to get him as well, but nobody wanted to join. I was in my attic for three years. We weren't on TV. McLovin came to kind of do blogging for Sports Illustrated. I didn't even invite him. He just said, hey, can I come up and blog about the show? And he came up. He drove up from Brooklyn. And then I said, do you want to stay? I get this wasn't really thought out. I mean, I knew what I wanted to do, and I wanted to have friends, and I wanted to be able to do it where I'm not doing a rundown of things that you got to check off a list at ESPN like I did. So it was three years. The only reason why we moved out of my attic was because in the association where I live, they said, you can't run a business. And we scrambled. I met my local bar guy who ran the bar goes, I got space upstairs. I'm with Paulie, drinking beer, crying in my beer. And then we went up, and it's an old dance studio, And I go, we'll take it, like. And we didn't have anything. So it's not like somebody's gonna go, man, I'd love to join you now. Have I thought about other women being involved? Julie Stewart Banks was somebody that I thought of great respect for her and her sense of humor and timing, and she would have fit right in. But I had to be fair to the people who were involved. Marvin was here. Like, why? Why should I look down outside when I should be fair to the people inside? And I was looking outside, and Seaton goes, why not, Marvin? And I go, yeah. And then that was it. Like, there wasn't any hey, we got to sit around. What do you guys think? Yeah or nay? It was just. Yes. And then we just put Marvin in. We knew he knew sports, he knew the show had a sense of humor, and he just fit right in. So that. That's. I mean, that's as far as we've gotten. We don't replace anybody here. This is. You know, McLovin left because he wanted to have a job closer to home with his two daughters, and Marvin was perfect now. So that's the beauty of this. Dylan answered phones now, you know, he's doing a variety of things here. Marvin help with the build of this building. Answered phones. Now he's doing this like, that's what I love. You earn that opportunity to move up. So have I considered it? Yes, I have, but that's as close as we got. All right, we'll take a break. You're still happy, aren't you, Marvin?
- [39:40]
Max Chavkin
Who, me?
- [39:40]
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
- [39:41]
Max Chavkin
What? Heck, yeah.
- [39:42]
Pablo Torre
Okay. Just want to make sure.
- [39:44]
Max Chavkin
My goal wasn't to be a Danit, but I wasn't going to turn it down.
- [39:46]
Pablo Torre
Okay. All right, we're happy to have you. How about a round of applause from Marvin?
- [39:50]
Max Chavkin
Yeah, yeah. Marvin Prince.
- [39:51]
Todd Fritz
It's not over that.
- [39:53]
Pablo Torre
Wait a minute. That. Come on. How about a round of applause for Marvin?
- [39:59]
Stacey Vanek Smith
Oh, great.
- [40:00]
Pablo Torre
Come on.
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Max Chavkin
Come on. It's me.
- [40:01]
Pablo Torre
Get up.
- [40:02]
Todd Fritz
It seems like the same.
- [40:03]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, it does seem. Sound golf clappish there.
- [40:08]
Michelle Williams
You're welcome, by the way.
- [40:10]
Max Chavkin
Yes, thank you.
- [40:10]
Pablo Torre
Seaton is the one who said, what about Marvin? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure. But I have to make it. So we did think of you. Not like an afterthought, which is what it was like. God, I don't know. Who do we place McLovin with? All these people. People are texting me and obviously goes, how about Marvin?
- [40:30]
Stacey Vanek Smith
I go, okay, it's kind of like.
- [40:31]
Michelle Williams
How about we don't replace McLovin? I'll just jump in his chair and then Marvin can replace me.
- [40:35]
Pablo Torre
Yes, because Seaton said he didn't want you to replace McLovin, and then maybe people would. There'd be a backlash with that. That Seaton was going to be replacing McLovin. You're replacing Seaton. So how about you give Seaton a round of applause?
- [40:49]
Max Chavkin
All right.
- [40:50]
Pablo Torre
All right.
- [40:50]
Max Chavkin
Thank you.
- [40:51]
Pablo Torre
All right. Yeah. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Absolutely perfect.
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Pablo Torre
You combine his careers with baseball, Major League Baseball and the Nippon Professional Baseball League. Shohei Ohtani now has 300 career home runs. Start of the day, Start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day.
- [46:30]
Stacey Vanek Smith
This is the start of the day.
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Pablo Torre
Brought to you by Panini America. Did they do that with Ichiro? With the number of hits he has and if you combine what he did in Japan with the United States, mlb, does he have more hits career wise than Pete Rose does? And I don't know if they did that. I don't know. Like aba, NBA is a little different but. And you know, combining those numbers with the Japanese league and MLB.
- [47:01]
Todd Fritz
Yes, Paulie, I have Ichiro with 3089 hits in MLB and 1278 in the the other league, the Japanese league.
- [47:14]
Pablo Torre
So he would have more hitch career than Pete Rose.
- [47:16]
Todd Fritz
I have him 4, 367.
- [47:19]
Pablo Torre
Okay, so he'd be the all time. But we don't do that. Baseball has not combined those. But they got around to combining the ABA and the NBA numbers, didn't they.
- [47:30]
Todd Fritz
Are technically separated when you look at them on NBA reference.
- [47:34]
Pablo Torre
Yeah, they are.
- [47:35]
Todd Fritz
They give you different lists. NBA, NBA, aba, aba, they're not combined.
- [47:41]
Pablo Torre
But baseball did combine the Negro league stats just recently or I don't know if they're combining them because most of those players didn't get the opportunity to play in major league baseball. Like Josh, Josh Gibson didn't get to play in Major League Baseball. Satchel Page did. Larry Dobie did. Yes, Paulie.
- [48:02]
Todd Fritz
Similar to the aba, the negro league statistics are in the MLB record books now. But they are given a different like page, their own page.
- [48:10]
Pablo Torre
All right. The NBA draft coming up tonight. By the way, Fritz, he does scoreboard every day on this program where he puts up a scoreboard, has some numbers there and then it's something that happened this day in history. I was in the back and the BRGs are always gossiping and I was told by one of the BRGs that sometimes they make up names of people who Win scoreboard.
- [48:34]
Max Chavkin
That's very disheartening if that's accurate.
- [48:36]
Pablo Torre
Yes. Well, I think what happens is maybe your clues are very difficult. So it might be a testament to you that they want to make it seem like somebody new. They run your wavelength there.
- [48:48]
Max Chavkin
Yeah. Neal in Connecticut seems to win 95% of the time. And I got all excited that there's a Peyton in Grand Rapids, which now I don't know if that person actually exists.
- [48:56]
Pablo Torre
Peyton in Grand Rapids does. I believe Neil in Connecticut does. But once again, BRGs are spilling some tea back there and saying that not every day does somebody win.
- [49:08]
Max Chavkin
I'd rather than just say there was no winner today. And so you have Fred from Alhambra, California, one.
- [49:12]
Pablo Torre
Yes.
- [49:13]
Michelle Williams
Is that because the. The hints are so difficult? Lack of interest?
- [49:17]
Max Chavkin
Well, you guys do caught the snowboard, so there may be something to that.
- [49:21]
Pablo Torre
Okay. But Paulie does this day in sports history, and then you did the scoreboard, which is this day in sports history.
- [49:29]
Max Chavkin
So I do often go to this.
- [49:31]
Pablo Torre
So you do that right before I could go to Paulie. Right now, this day in sports history, you hijack that. Yes, it's.
- [49:38]
Michelle Williams
I think that's a little unfair to Todd. The reason Todd does the snoreboard and is because Paul used to yell at him for not doing it. Todd used to do it off air just for fun. And Paul would make all of these snarky comments that only Paul could make. Being like, you know, it'd be great content. What if we had content once in a while? That would be nice for you, Todd. And so now Todd does do it on air. And now Paul's upset that Todd does it on air because he's hijacking his own segment that he forced him to do.
- [50:00]
Todd Fritz
Whilst a fair and correct point by Seaton. The original snoreboard by Fritzi was little plays on numbers. It wasn't sports history. Like.
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Pablo Torre
Well, he loves his numerology.
- [50:10]
Stacey Vanek Smith
Yes.
- [50:10]
Todd Fritz
His more numerology.
- [50:11]
Pablo Torre
Okay.
- [50:11]
Todd Fritz
BABE Ruth had 11 hits and on.
- [50:13]
Pablo Torre
The 11th day of the 11th month.
- [50:15]
Michelle Williams
Oh, that's the difference between that and sports history. Babe Ruth numbers.
- [50:19]
Pablo Torre
Now, normally what Understood. Normally what Todd does is he incorporates music in his snoreboard.
- [50:24]
Max Chavkin
I'll try to put some pop culture in there. A movie premiere or a jersey number as opposed to a year. There's other things. It's not all that. But there is a lot of the state in history.
- [50:34]
Pablo Torre
You know, we took all the time. So we can't do this day in sports history. Of course, I Mean, we. Sorry.
- [50:39]
Michelle Williams
Didn't we just do it in this. Oh, wait, yeah, that was.
- [50:42]
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
- [50:43]
Max Chavkin
Tim Duncan and Carla Penny Towns, drafted on this date in sports history. 97 in 2015.
- [50:48]
Pablo Torre
But you missed 1979.
- [50:50]
Max Chavkin
Well, I can only do two things. There's only two numbers that fit on the scoreboard.
- [50:53]
Pablo Torre
I know, but you could have put 32 on there.
- [50:56]
Max Chavkin
I did. I had 21 and 32. I got Duncan and Cat. That's all I can fit. I had to pick two things. Hopefully you have something else.
- [51:04]
Pablo Torre
Lakers took Magic Johnson with the first pick. 1979.
- [51:07]
Max Chavkin
How did I not put Magic on?
- [51:09]
Pablo Torre
Kind of a big deal. Kind of a big deal. Let me see. Anything else? This day in sports history.
- [51:21]
Michelle Williams
Yeah, you're doing this thing.
- [51:23]
Pablo Torre
Sports history. I just. I just took it.
- [51:26]
Michelle Williams
Todd does it, then you'll throw to Paul to do it. And then you'll wrap up Paul's part with doing more of this day in space.
- [51:32]
Pablo Torre
Yes. So we have three people doing one job that none of us really want to do. That's the show in a nutshell.
- [51:41]
Max Chavkin
How creative.
- [51:41]
Pablo Torre
Yeah. Thank you, Todd. Let's play the Cooper flag game.
- [51:45]
Max Chavkin
Yep.
- [51:45]
Todd Fritz
We've been waiting for this for a year, Dan. Okay, what player comp will happen when Cooper flag is picked tonight?
- [51:53]
Pablo Torre
Okay, you got.
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Todd Fritz
You could pick one or I'll let you pick two.
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Pablo Torre
All right, Marvin, I'm going to start with you. The Cooper flag game. Who is he compared to tonight?
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Max Chavkin
Got two of them. Scottie Pippen and Andre Kurylenko.
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Pablo Torre
Oh, okay. Todd.
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Max Chavkin
Mark Price. I know it's not a good.
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Pablo Torre
That's not even funny.
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Max Chavkin
I know. I don't. I'm not good at this sports talk.
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Pablo Torre
Comps. And that's work on your scoreboard for tomorrow. Satan. Do you have a player comp for Cooper flag tonight?
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Michelle Williams
Jason Tatum.
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Todd Fritz
Okay, Paul, I think I have two written down. Also. Andre Karolinko was one of mine and I think Kawhi Leonard's name will be mentioned in the player comp.
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Pablo Torre
I am. I'm gonna go player comp. LeBron. Okay, yeah, me go LeBron. Same age team first. Not necessarily dominating score as much as he is an all around great player. Yes, Mark.
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Max Chavkin
None of us picked an American white guy.
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Todd Fritz
Oh, it's progress.
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Max Chavkin
Mark price.
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Pablo Torre
I picked LeBron.
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Max Chavkin
I said American white.
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Pablo Torre
Oh, white guy.
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Todd Fritz
Like a Tom Guglia type.
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Michelle Williams
LeBron's pretty white. I mean.
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Pablo Torre
I'm not going to say another word.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
Not going to fall for me.
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Pablo Torre
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Max Chavkin
That's what you learned.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, I learned don't say anything.
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Dan Patrick
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Pablo Torre
I think any good romance, it gives.
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Pablo Torre
What up y' all? This your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.
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Max Chavkin
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Pablo Torre
June is Black Music Month, so what better way to celebrate than listening to my exclusive conversation with my bro, Ja Rule?
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Max Chavkin
The one thing they can't stop you or take away from you is knowledge. So whatever I went through while I was down in prison for two years through that process, learn, Learn from Check.
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Pablo Torre
Out this exclusive episode with Ja Rule on Rock Solid. Open your free iHeartRadio app.
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Max Chavkin
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Dan Patrick
I also wanna address the Tonys. On a recent episode of Checking in with Michelle Williams, I open up about feeling snubbed by the Tony Awards. Do I? I was never mad. I was disappointed because I had high hopes to hear this. And more on Disappointment and Protecting youg Peace. Listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
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Max Chavkin
Talk about the business news that concerns everybody.
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Dan Patrick
From Bloomberg businessweek, I'm Stacey Vanek Smith.
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Max Chavkin
And I'm Max Chavkin.
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Dan Patrick
Each week we unpack what is happening on Main street and Wall street, all the streets. WrestleMania has taken over the US economy.
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Stacey Vanek Smith
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Dan Patrick
A little actual magic in our underrated story of the week.
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Pablo Torre
The single greatest marketing campaign music business has ever seen.
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Dan Patrick
I decided to ask people how they felt about the penny going away. Listen to everybody's business wherever you get your podcasts.
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Max Chavkin
I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have.
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Pablo Torre
You ever had to shoot your gun?
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Max Chavkin
Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Pablo Torre
But there's a company dedicated to a.
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Max Chavkin
Future where the answer will always be no. This is absolute Season one, Taser Incorporated.
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Todd Fritz
I get right back there and it's.
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Max Chavkin
Bad listen to Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Pablo Torre
This is an iHeart podcast.