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Debbie Brown
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Dan Patrick
If you're into tech, you'll love this. TikTok is a live lab where users post instant reviews of the latest trends. Download TikTok and check it out. Hey, guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Kevin Jonas
I'm Kevin.
Nick Jonas
And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.
Kevin Jonas
We invented a podcast.
Nick Jonas
Well, we didn't invent it, we just contributed to it.
Dan Patrick
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Kevin Jonas
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Nick Jonas
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.
Joe Jonas
Listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen.
Dan Patrick
We don't care where you hear it.
Robert Smigel
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
Kevin Jonas
Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Robert Smigel
Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Patrick Ewing
What's up, fam?
Kevin Jonas
It's Isaiah Thomas and I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast Point game, the playoffs.
CJ Toledano
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn' talk ever again, I was fine.
Kevin Jonas
You just understood.
CJ Toledano
That's how personal it gets.
Kevin Jonas
Wow.
CJ Toledano
Then after that game seven, Marquis coming to you. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.
Kevin Jonas
So listen to Point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.
Dan Patrick
Final hour on this Thursday. Patrick Ewing said to join us. Just talked to Isaiah Thomas. It was fun. You start to take a trip down memory lane. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. NBA playoffs continue. Spurs, Thunder tomorrow night on NBC. And Peacock. You can see us on Peacock. That's our streaming partner. Download the App if you haven't done so. 8, 7, 7, 3, DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle DP show the Knicks are six and a half point favorites tonight as they were in game one and the Thunder over the spurs last night. 30 for SGA to tie the series at a game of peace. Keeping an eye out on updates for de' Aaron Fox and Dylan Harper. Not sure their availability on Friday night when the spurs will be one and a half point favorites as of now. All right, poll question there for the final hour of the program. Dylan. Then we'll get to Patrick Ewing.
Dylan
Yeah, we got a couple options.
Patrick Ewing
You want to do it?
Dylan
Aaron Rodgers or another Otani Wemby question?
Dan Patrick
You can give me Aaron Rodgers.
Patrick Ewing
All right.
Dylan
Do you actually think this will be Aaron Rodgers last season, yes or no?
Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. I'm going to take him in his word. I'd have no reason not to. I mean, I covered a couple of Sugar Ray Leonard's retirements, including his first one in Baltimore, and I think he had five retirements after that. But that's boxers, Boxers don't retire. The phone just stops ringing because we've seen Tyson get back in the ring, of Andrew Holyfield get back in the ring, Roberto Duran, I mean, they're all like, you want to put Manny Pacquiao, Patrick Ewing, the Hall of Famer, and now the number one New York Knicks fan. Man, look at you walking around Madison Square Garden. You got your, your hat on or whatever that hat and chapeau that you got on. It's like you, you, you own the building, Patrick.
Patrick Ewing
No, I don't know about owning the building, but I do feel like it's, it's one of my homes. You know, I've been, I've had 15 years, 15 great years here in New York as, as an athlete, you know, for also four more as a college. As a college athlete. So I spent a lot of time in the.
Dan Patrick
Do you get to choose who you sit next to in the front row? Well, you know what?
Patrick Ewing
They've been putting me next to my, my, my good friend John Stark, but I might have to move. He's just too fired up. I'm like, I keep telling him, john, you're gonna get us attack. You keep trying to get onto the floor. Oh, my God, Calm down. No, but you know what? You know what, Dan? It's, it's great being around the guys, you know, the former guys, you know, former teammates. And, you know, we all feel like we are part of it because, you know, we have bled. Bled, you know, sweat and tears, a lot of the things that they're going through now. So, you know, we're just there to support them. And I think that Leon And Wes and Ms. Dona have done a great job of making us feel like we are part of it.
Dan Patrick
How do you explain what happened in game one at the Garden?
Patrick Ewing
I. Look, you know, it's never over until it's over. You know, a lot of people thought that the game was over. Some people, and I might have been one of those people that turned the TV off if I was at home, but I thought that Jalen Brunson did an outstanding job of putting on his Superman cape and being able to score all those points for us. Then we locked down defensively. I thought that the coaching staff made some, you know, Landry came in and did an outstanding job on the defensive end for us. OG Made some. Some big plays for us. Cat was able to do some things. You know, I just thought that the team as a whole did everything right at the right time to be able to come away with that win.
Dan Patrick
What's your most memorable moment in the Garden?
Patrick Ewing
You know what? I've been asked that a lot, and I really don't have one particular. You know, I guess if I was just going to, you know, put it as one, you know, when we beat Indiana to finally make it to the. To the final, you know, we've been trying to get to the finals for a lot of years, and that was my first opportunity to be able to get there. And, you know, we struggled game, Game six, but we were able to get it done in game seven. You know, I thought that I showed my emotion, you know, my gratitude for the fans, for all the. That they had to endure and we had to endure. When I got up on that table with my arms stretched out, just trying to show them my appreciation.
Dan Patrick
When did you stop hating Reggie Miller?
Patrick Ewing
You know, dad, sometimes I wonder, you know, do I really still hate him? Do I like him now? But no, I mean, you know, we. We as athletes, we go through some. Some ups and some downs, and we had some great. Some great time battling against those guys, the Pacers. And us. We. We were built in, you know, a lot in the same way Reggie was a master. You know, they. If they. If they, you know, now they talk about flopping all the time. That guy used to flop all the time. But then he also. He, you know, just call him an actor. He's a great actor. I think he would have gotten an Academy Award for his acting and he knew how to pull strings and, you know, he knew how to, you know, pull certain people's strings. He pulled John string a few times, got John to headbutt him. But you know what? It's all water under the bridge now. I see him, I hug him, I show the respect that I have for his game and also the things that he's doing now. He's his life after basketball. Well, after playing basketball, he's done an outstanding job of getting into his next career. So all you can do is just admire the work that he does.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Patrick Ewing, the Hall of Famer, you faced, Ralph Sampson. I try to remind people that Ralph, while he's not as good as Wembanyama is now, but to be that skilled at that height and being on the outside, being able to shoot, being inside as well, playing both ends of the floor. Do you see similarities with Ralph Sampson and Victor Wembanyama?
Patrick Ewing
Definitely. You know, I've been talking to a lot of people about the same thing. You know, I see Ralph would have been a great player in this era. In our era, people used to get mad at you if you were big and you don't get into the post or you start shooting too many jump shots. And, you know, that was Ralph's game. He was a skilled big. He was, you know, Victor's height, he's seven for. He wanted to be a perimeter big. But in our era, people look down on that. But I thought that he would. This era would have embraced him and embrace his abilities and which is what they're doing with Victor. And Victor is a special young man. Every time I watch him play, I see how special that he is.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he's got these unique traits that, you know, you don't want your 7 foot 5 guy shooting a three pointer, but in today's game, we kind of accept it. Like, even with you at Georgetown, I never knew you could shoot that well. And then you get to the NBA and all of a sudden you're hitting 15, 18 footers. I'm like, why didn't Coach Thompson unleash this in college?
Patrick Ewing
Well, you know, like I said back in those era, they wanted us to be back to the basket, dunking it. Even when I first got to New York, they. I remember talking to Dickie McGuire and he said the exact same thing. He's like, patrick, I never knew you could shoot. And Dickie was, was, you know, the head scout for, for the Knicks for a lot of years. His numbers in the Raptors next to my. I do have to say next to mine. But he just said, you know, I really never thought that you could shoot. I thought all you could do was block shots and dunk. Well, I say, you know, Dick, you know, Big John was like, son, get your butt in the post, work on the, you know, when you go to the NBA, then you can, then you can show them the rest of your game. But you know, I always could shoot. I could shoot in high school. You know, I developed an more all around game as I got older. But I thought that, you know, I showed that, that I had the ability to do these things and you know, what could I do it in this era, I didn't really shoot many threes or I'm not sure if I'd be proficient at it as a lot of these guys are. Wemby yoke, you know, yo kids and embiid, those guys, you know, you know, but if I, if I practice, practice it, I probably would be just as proficient as they are.
Dan Patrick
I got you with 19 three pointers
Patrick Ewing
and that's too many. Back in my era that was too many.
Dan Patrick
When, when would you put Joker in a top 10 player of all time? Is he close to being a top 10 player of all time?
Patrick Ewing
You know what Joker is? He's another one that's special. You know, his, you know, whatever he lacks in athleticism, he, you know, definitely makes up in all the other things that he does. He plays every night, he very rarely gets hurt. He can shoot, he can pass. He's more of a facilitator than then most bigs. We were all the ones that, you know, were getting, you know, we had to depend. We, we played a dependent position. He doesn't need to play a dependent position. He can bring it, bring it down. He can score, he rebounds. He does all the things that in this era that bigs need to do. And you know, I'm not going to sit here and say he is the greatest player of greatest big of all time because there was a lot of great bigs. Keem was a great big in my era, Kareem before that. So there's a, you know, Shaq. You got to talk about Shaq and all those guys. But you know, he's definitely special. I would have loved to have tried to compete against him to see, you know, how I would fare against that talented young man. I had the opportunity to meet him this year when we played in Denver. I went up to him and told him that, you know, I love what he's doing, continue to do it and he's a very special player.
Dan Patrick
What do you remember about facing Kareem at the end of his career?
Patrick Ewing
Hey, I'm gonna tell you a story. So we're getting ready, and Rick Pattino was our coach at this, at this time, and we are getting ready to face the Lakers. And I'm like, you know, Rick was like, no, we're not going to double Kareem. He's getting older. And I'm like, rick, he may be getting older, but he is still good. So Kareem got heated, he got hot. And I don't care what I did, I could push him to the three point line. He still was rolling that skyhook. And I said, rick, what did I tell you? We need to double him. No.
Dan Patrick
You know, Kareem Patrick, I'm looking at the video. He hits 6, 6 consecutive sky hooks over you.
Patrick Ewing
Yes. He's. I mean, people, when they talk about greatest of all time, I mean, they never, you know, they very, very rarely put him in there. And what he did was, was special. I mean, you know, he was 7:2. He had, he developed a. A shot that was virtually unstoppable. When Pat Riley came to the Knicks, he tried to get me to, you know, develop a sky hook. Unlike Coach, that's just not my game. The captain was, was special. He developed that. That's his, that's his thing. I'm a jump shooter.
Dan Patrick
Wait, you didn't want to even try to do the sky hook?
Patrick Ewing
I just didn't, I just didn't get the feel of the sky hook. I was more of a, of a, of a jump hook guy. You know, I use the jump hook as, you know, one of the pieces, the pieces to my game.
Dan Patrick
Do celebs come up to you at the Garden and want pictures?
Caller
Yes, they do.
Patrick Ewing
And you know what? I'm like, like Lenny Kravitz was at the game, the last game, and I'm like, man, I'm a huge Lenny Kravitz fan. I'm like, forget you asking me for the picture. I need to take a picture. You know, I got to send this to all my kids. Cause, you know, funny, I was at a game last year and I brought my kids with me, and, you know, the Knicks asked me to take a, a picture with. With a group, one of the, one of the K pop groups. So I didn't know who they were, so I took the picture of my kids. Like, dad, do you know that's probably the most famous person that you ever taken a picture with? I'm like, what?
Dan Patrick
Who
Patrick Ewing
I'm like, I had, I had. I. I couldn't believe it.
Dan Patrick
Well, in their world, K pop, yeah, those are big stars. They don't care about Lenny Kravitz, who's, you know, in his 60s, or even Tracy Morgan or Spike Lee.
Patrick Ewing
Oh, yeah, I know. They. They do. They, do they, they. They have more of a knowledge about all these things than I did, you know, than I do. My, I was so tunnel vision as a player. I was just locked in on trying to be the best I could be as a player. I wasn't. I didn't care who was in the stand just as long as it was filled with all of our fans. And, you know, one thing I love before you go down, one thing I love about our fans, I don't care. I'm in Boston and I'm like, oh, my God, I never saw New York Knicks fans in Boston. Maybe in LA or what happened in Philadelphia. I could not believe that. I'm like, we, we. We show up. We show up and we show out on these road games.
Dan Patrick
Did it ever bother you that Spike Lee was a Knicks fan, but he was friends with Michael Jordan during doing those commercials?
Patrick Ewing
No. You know, I mean, Michael and I were friends. We. We got to meet each other in college before, you know, in high school, I should say, we've developed a friendship. We stayed friends, still are friends today. But once we get on that floor, as you saw, it wasn't just about the friendship. We were both trying to kick each other's butts. And he lets me know every time I see him or I talk to him that I was not able to beat him. People talk about Larry Bird talking trash. I think he's probably the biggest trash talker that I ever been around.
Dan Patrick
Wait, did Larry talk trash to you?
Patrick Ewing
Did he ever. I mean, if I saw Larry today, he'd still probably talk trash. You know, I think that's how we got to be friends with the Dream Team. You know, he was talking so much trash. You know, he talked trash when we played against each other, but back then, so now we were around each other all the time. And he talks about how, you know, his team would always used to kick our butts, and I was more of a power forward than a sinner. And, you know, we just, we just got into all these, you know, joking things and we call ourselves the Harry and Larry show. But Larry was a great competitor, a great teammate, and I got the opportunity to become good friends with him during that, during that time.
Dan Patrick
But, you know, that the Dream Team birthed all these great players from around the world. Like the timeline, Patrick. I mean, I think you can, you can point right towards the Dream Team dominating everybody. Next thing you know, you got a player out of Africa, out of Germany, out of, you know, you know, the Croatia, I mean, variety of places due to the Dream Team.
Patrick Ewing
Yeah, everywhere. I agree with you. Because every other country in the world, soccer was the number one sport. I used to want to play soccer when I was growing up in Jamaica. I wanted to be the next Pele, moved to America, fell in love with this game of basketball. And I thought that, you know, when David Stern decided to let the NBA players play in the Olympics, that that made basketball a global sport. It was loved all over the world. And I think that that was one of the smartest things that he did.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Patrick Ewing
So everybody who used to play soccer at that time, football everywhere else except for here, that's when they fell in love with basketball. And you saw a huge everyone wanting to play basketball after that Olympics.
Dan Patrick
Have fun tonight. Behave. Tell John Starks to keep it down a little bit so you don't get teed up there. And thank you again.
Patrick Ewing
Oh, it's my pleasure, my friend. And it's always great to be on your show. I still need to come up there and be in that. That man cave.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I'd like to bring you up here and school you a little bit, you know, maybe take you. Thank you.
Patrick Ewing
Hey, look, you might be able to now. You might be able to now because I haven't. I haven't really been shooting.
Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. Thank you, Patrick. When we were in San Antonio, I think at the final four, and I had the ball during a commercial break and Patrick came out on me and I'm like, oh. And then I did a little hesitation and ended up somehow scoring on him. And that was it. I was one and done just walked off. I was like, finger raised, like I'm Larry Bird in the three point shooting contest. All right, let me take a break. We're back after this.
Kevin Jonas
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Nick Jonas
Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
Dan Patrick
What's the news?
Kevin Jonas
Huge news.
Nick Jonas
We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.
Kevin Jonas
We invented a podcast.
Nick Jonas
Well, we didn't invent it, we just contributed to it.
Paulie
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Nick Jonas
Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts starting, but this one's extra special.
Dan Patrick
So how did we.
Joe Jonas
How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Nick Jonas
This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that.
Joe Jonas
Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
Dan Patrick
We don't care where you hear it.
Robert Smigel
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
Kevin Jonas
Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Robert Smigel
Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
It's always great to talk to former greats of the game and I never take it for granted. You know, when you're around Isaiah, Patrick Ewing, Reggie, whoever it might be, you get guys who are in their 50s and 60s and you've been with them almost every step of the way. Certainly Patrick Ewing, his freshman year at Georgetown. I remember I went there and they didn't allow the players, certainly freshmen, to do any interviews. And if John Thompson was going to sit down with you, then you got your interview. And I remember sitting down with Big John and he was always intimidating, but he wanted to be intimidating. He wanted his teams to be intimidating. And therefore Patrick Ewing was just a mystery. You were like, I don't know who this is. He doesn't do interviews. The way he played, he was so aggressive, he was so defensive minded. And then he gets to the NBA, he's not defensive minded. He's shooting 15, 18 foot jumpers. It was like, now that was college NBA. I'm shooting.
Caller
Yes, Mark, DP Paulie, this might be a question for you guys. Can you guys explain to me the Georgetown phenomenon? Because Patrick, you and played the bulk of his career in New York City at the Garden, but he's probably more iconic and more famous for what he did at Georgetown and he had a all time hall of fame career in New York.
Dan Patrick
Well, I think, you know, there was something different about Georgetown basketball and they would have those starter jackets and everybody wanted like you were wearing Georgetown gear because. And it was for a younger audience because they were like, man, I love the way they play. You know, they had those gray uniforms that were ugly but you know, they, they just had this Persona, this bravado. When they came on the floor, it felt like they were already up five nothing. And then you know, that national title game, Patrick's blocking every shot. I think John Thompson so said go after every shot to start that game against Jordan in North Carolina and he might have goal tended five or six shots in a row. It was, we're going to send a message. Whenever they put something up, we're going to go after it and they played defense. I mean, that's. I always marvel when, you know, people talk about today's athlete. You know, the superstars back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, you had to play defense. John Thompson got his players to think defense first. Jerry Tarkanian got UNLV to think defense first. Mike Krzyzewski got his teams to think defense first. It's, you know, there's a correlation there to winning. John Wooden, it was about defense, playing defense. Now it's sort of lost. But back then, even with all these teams and these great players, you were playing defense first. Bob Knight, defense first. Yes. Paul.
Paulie
I was 12 years old when Ewing showed up at Georgetown, and he was a household name when he arrived there, basically. And they were the team. They were like the counterculture team. They did it differently. John Thompson was defiant and didn't take anything from anybody, just like his team didn't on the court. And young people gravitated toward Georgetown. The look, the feel, the tone, the clothes, everything.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I had great respect for John because John stood up for people causes. You know, Prop 48, which was a terrible label for students because that meant you weren't smart enough or, you know, the perception was, oh, Prop 48, and it would be you. Academically, you weren't able. You weren't at the same level as everybody else. And it was unfair. It was like a scarlet letter that you put on these players. But he was tough. He was tough. He's another one of those guys that I wore down eventually, and we became friends. It took a long time. It's like, Bob Knight, I'll wear you down. I'm playing the long game. And same thing happened with Coach Knight. You wear him down. I'm still here. I'm not leaving. Yeah. Paul.
Paulie
Dan, a bunch of years ago, when we were just starting this version of the show, you brought us down to Washington, D.C. at the local radio station, and Coach John Thompson did a show before your show, our show. And we walked in the room and I looked up at John Thompson at 6, 10, he goes, hello, young man. And I was like, holy cow, it's him. Very cool.
Dan Patrick
And it's nice when you get on somebody's level or they allow you. It's like when your kids get on a level where you go, I'm talking to an adult here. But you got to prove yourself, man. Back then, you had to prove yourself, you know, Coach K, even John Wooden. When I went to Coach Wooden's condominium, and this had to be in the early 80s, and I remember that we were sitting outside doing the interview and I was trying. I wanted to go inside the condo. And it was really a modest condominium, but I thought if I get in there, that means that he is kind of opening up the gates, that he knows that I know basketball. And man, am I piling it on with John Wooden. I'm bringing up guys who were eighth or ninth on the roster. I mean, I'm bringing up all these guys where they went to high school because I knew UCLA basketball. We get towards the end, my cameraman says, hey, Ma, pack up and go. And Coach Wooden said, do you want a sandwich? I said, of course. And it was a pimento. I don't like pimento cheese. But I didn't care. I would have eaten five of them. So we go inside, we sit down, he serves me up a glass of milk and pimento cheese. And I'm in John Wooden's condominium. And he goes, do you want to see some of my scrapbooks? Like, I'm going, you gotta be kidding. So I'm trying to be like, I'd love to. Shows me scrapbooks, photos of his wife Nell, and photos of him when he played. And so I'm looking, he gives me, you know, the pyramid of success and he writes a note on it. Well, the only problem is they didn't have Uber back then. I don't have a car. I'd come over with my cameraman, but I didn't want to pass up on this. So I. It took me probably three hours to get back that. It would have taken me 30 minutes because I had to walk most of the way. And I'm hitchhiking back then, but it was so worth it. I got the. I got the pyramid of success piece of paper in my hand as I'm walking down. I don't know where I was and I'm. I'm hitchhiking, but it was worth every moment of it to be able to get inside the condominium. Yeah, Paulie, that.
Paulie
That's the greatest walk of all time. You're probably sitting there having an out of body moment. I was just in John Wynn's apartment. And you're probably just soaking it in it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I mean, you still think back on those kind of moments. And I've been very fortunate because I got the opportunity to be around these people in different moments throughout different stages of their careers. Kent in Indiana. Good morning, Kent. What's on your mind?
Caller
Good morning, dan. Dan, it's five nine and old 185 listening to you talk to Patrick E.W. reminded me and it jogged my memory of one of the greatest lines of a sports report I ever heard. And I still remember it. And I think you delivered the line, but I'm not sure. You showed a clip of Patrick going around Rick Smith's and you said, and Patrick Ewing abuses the Dutch boy in the pink.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah. Because it was, you know, the Dutch boy in the paint. And so. Yeah, Kent, thank you.
Paulie
You're proud of that one, aren't you?
Dan Patrick
I don't know if I am.
Paulie
I think you should be proud of that one. That's a nice ref.
Dan Patrick
The dunking Dutchman. Rick Schmitz. Andrew in Michigan. Hi, Andrew.
Caller
This message has been transcribed.
Dan Patrick
One moment while I notify the caller. Andrew. Bye. Andrew. What was. What was that? Chad in Florida. Hey, Chad, what's on your mind?
Caller
Hey, how's it going, Jan? Truly an honor to be on the. On the radio a real quick harsh inside and holding Wemby and clutching him and not allowing Webby to close out or elevate. It's like holding a 240 pound dumbbell on your hand and becoming an average NFL, I mean, sorry, NBA center. And also about Aaron Rodgers. Like I'm tired of seeing that angry scowl bitter on my television screen. I mean it's just a bad look for the NFL. I'd rather see somebody like just energetic, excited and just joyful to play the game and just it just competitive, you know.
Dan Patrick
He's just different though. Aaron is not that happy. Go. Lucky big smile guy. Just not. And I've been around him for a long time. He's just not that way. So I'm not sitting there. Go. Hey, be happy. Have fun. How about a smile or two?
Paul
Yes, Todd, he does have his moments when he smirks or winks at a receiver or back to the coach when they got away with or a certain play was drawn up. So he's not completely frowning or angry or miserable. I think he's still having fun with it.
Dan Patrick
I don't know if Tom Brady was having fun like there most of the moments he pretty intense.
Caller
Yes, Marv, if Aaron Rodgers had five Super Bowls, we would have said, man, he's just always cool under pressure no matter what. But because people don't like him, he's always sulking.
Dan Patrick
Luke and Columbus. Hi Luke. What's on your mind?
Caller
Morning, guys. Five nine, a hard 177
yesterday.
Dan, you gave a great rundown of the different murals you guys have in the man cave there and how they're about matchups that we will never see one being LeBron versus Jordan. I'm curious now if you think that LeBron is into golf, if we'd ever get Netflix or something like that to put together kind of a. Like the match did with quarterbacks, and we could see LeBron vs. Jordan in golf.
Dan Patrick
LeBron would take years to get to where Mike is. Mike plays 36 a day. That ain't happening. Mike would love. If LeBron wanted to challenge him to golf, I would have Steph Curry go against Michael Jordan. Then we would have something interesting, because Steph Curry, I think, could play on. On like a DP World Tour, Korn Ferry, something like that. I think he's that talented. Yes.
Paulie
Paul, I think you should produce up this show. You get Steph Curry and Michael miked up. Get two NFL greats miked up or other sports. You got something here.
Dan Patrick
Barkley. Barkley versus Tom Brady.
Paulie
Michael Phelps, he loves golf.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah. But you got to get handicaps that are very similar. You know, you can't get it too crazy there. Yes, Dylan.
Dylan
I actually saw a video the other day. I think it was on Tick Tock of Bronnie swinging the golf club. And I was like, he is light years ahead of his dad, so the basketball thing, he's probably not gonna catch up to his dad, but he's got his number in golf.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I'm gonna guess that he'll never get close to his dad. Really? Yeah, probably. Just I'm curious, What happens when LeBron retires? What happens to Bronnie?
Paulie
Oh, boy.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. See, that, to me, is the interesting part of that, that, you know, you're kind of on scholarship. Although he did have moments, but I think he's playing like somebody who was drafted when he was drafted. I think he's a. You know, he's a capable player. Not a great player, not a starter. But, you know, every time he walks on the floor, he's being compared to his dad. So you're always going to lose that battle. Yes, Marv, he'll be on the Lakers.
Caller
The question is, will he be on the Los Angeles Lakers or the South Bay Lakers?
Dan Patrick
Wow. Well, it's a shot there, Marv. Would you say it to his face?
Caller
No, no, no. I like behind people's back now.
Dan Patrick
You like stabbing people in the back far better. I always say that to Todd. Hey, you know, when he says something about an athlete, I go, okay, what happens when they call any. I'll be nice to him. I go, okay.
Paul
Yeah, I got a lot of bravado before. And then Once I'm done with. Hey, what's going on, buddy?
Dan Patrick
Well, Philip Rivers. When Philip. You used to bash Philip Rivers. And then I go, what happens when Philip Rivers calls in? And then we had him on when he played.
Paul
I changed my tune a little bit. I changed my tune a little. We played nice.
Dan Patrick
I really enjoyed you with the charters. And I think what you're doing is incredible.
Paul
Aren't you the guy that's the Bronco fan that always rips me? No, that's somebody else. I know what you're talking about.
Dan Patrick
All right, let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow.
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Kevin Jonas
We invented a podcast.
Nick Jonas
Well, we didn't invent it.
Kevin Jonas
We.
Nick Jonas
We just contributed to first people to do podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special.
Dan Patrick
So how did we.
Joe Jonas
How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
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Last call for phone calls what we learn what's in store tomorrow on a Meet Friday. Final results of the poll question. Dylan, can you offer up those results please? Yes.
Dylan
Dan, do you actually think this is Aaron Rodgers last season I might be in the minority here because 81 or 89 say yes, it is.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I think it is. I'll take him at his word.
Dylan
Yeah, I mean if you're, if you're a Steeler fan though, what would be your preference? Because I think.
Dan Patrick
Okay, well let me ask you, you're a Ravens fan. Are you hoping Rogers retires or comes back for another season after this one?
Dylan
As a Ravens fan, I'd want him to come back.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Dylan
As opposed to them basically essentially tanking this year with Drew Aller and Will Howard or platooning them or whatever. Getting a higher draft pick, Getting a real quarterback next year.
Dan Patrick
Terry in Seattle. Hi Terry. What do you have for me today?
Caller
Hey, good morning, Dan. Your conversation with Ewing reminded me of another player from that era that I know you watch a lot who was so clutch, the bigger the moment, the better he got. But he was a nine time defensive player on the all defensive team and I'm talking about the great late C.J.
Dan Patrick
c.J.
Patrick Ewing
D.J.
Caller
dennis Johnson.
Dan Patrick
Oh, D.J. yeah. And, you know, he got got to Boston and Bird called him his favorite teammate because Dennis Johnson did whatever it took to just win. And I remember when he first came into the league, he was a great jumper, and I think his brother was an even greater like a high jumper. But I remember DJ Was a really good player. And then they ended up getting him on Boston and just solidified that backcourt with Danny Ainge. Mark in South Carolina. Hey, Mark.
Caller
Good morning. Good morning, Dent. Fourth time, long time. You guys have documented for over the years how cheap Fritz he is. And I'm a season ticket holder to both the Carolina Panthers and the Atlanta Falcons, and I'm willing to offer tickets to Fritzi. I don't know how many he would need. If there's. If one or two conditions. A, I could go with them. If that's not an option, that's fine. But then B, would be me if you could give me a shout out limerick on the following Monday. But I got four tickets to the Panthers that I'd be offering up to Todd so you wouldn't have to pay because he's apparently super cheap.
Dan Patrick
All right, Todd.
Paul
I'm not as cheap as you guys have made out to be. Number one. Number two, I was considering going to that game because my daughter goes to school in North Carolina, and I was going to make a weekend out of it to visit her and then go to Charlotte for the Broncos Panthers game. So that's a very. That's a very generous offer. And if all I need to do is a limerick to take my wife and I to a Bronco Panther game, that's something we can explore.
Dan Patrick
Well, why don't you just go with Mark?
Paul
We can do that, too. He's welcome to join us. My wife will be with me, and he could hang out with us. Of course we would hang out together.
Dan Patrick
He's got four tickets.
Paul
Yeah. So we could double date. I don't know who's with him or a friend, but the four of us can go to the game.
Dan Patrick
All right, Mark, Fritzi, does your.
Caller
Does your wife have a sister? Fritzi?
Paul
She does not, unfortunately, but I would have been happy to try to. She's an only child.
Dylan
Does she have a brother?
Dan Patrick
Is. Is the deal contingent on Dodd bringing a girl for you, Mark?
Patrick Ewing
No.
Caller
Maybe we can get somebody, the audience that wants to go as well.
Dan Patrick
Well, you know what? I'll have Tyler take down your information, Mark, and then maybe Fritzi can reach out time. Maybe you can get a girl, Nick, in Texas. Hi, Nick. What's on your mind? Matchmaking.
Patrick Ewing
This is for Wimby. I think he's being bullied around and
Caller
pushed around and held.
Patrick Ewing
Maybe he should work. Since he's worked with Garnett and Crawford. He needs to start working with Kareem
Caller
and Tim Duncan and work on the
Patrick Ewing
bank shot and the skyhook.
Dan Patrick
Well, he's been working with Tim Duncan and David Robinson. I mean, let's. Let's let him work on so many things, you know, not everything all at once. He's not going to get the sky hook and the bank shot. Plus he's working on his ball handling skills. And then he's working with Kevin Garnett. And, you know, let's give him credit, he's 22 years of age, that he's willing to be doing this in his off days. Off months. Nick in the Ozarks. Hi, Nick.
Caller
Hey, Dan. Long time. Congratulations on your daughter getting married. I was just going to say you're a professional speaker. One of the best. I don't think you need a speech. Just stand up there, tell it from the heart, and if the tears flow, they flow. Then the other thing was bought a new rec tech. Eight pork butts, four racks of ribs. Excellent smoker.
Dan Patrick
That thing is built like a tank, isn't it, Nick?
Caller
Yes, it is. It was very surprising.
Dan Patrick
All right, well, thank you for taking my recommendation. Maybe I just take questions from the audience when I'm up there doing a speech. You know, maybe we, we make it interactive. That way, you know, maybe I get a, like an appearance fee for my daughter showing up for a meet, meet and greet and signing some autographs and taking some pictures. Anybody have Cleveland tonight? We have the gambling podcast coming up after the show. Shay and Irving and Dylan, Picture day. Ray is going to be there and Dylan famously had the money line of the Cavaliers against the Knicks. And man, oh, man, you had to feel good.
Dylan
You'll never guess what, what I'm doing tonight, Dan. The same thing. I need. I want payback.
Dan Patrick
You're taking the money line with the Cavaliers again?
Dylan
I am.
Dan Patrick
And this is why you normally lose at gambling, right?
Dylan
Yeah, but it's not my fault. It was Mario's uncle's fault this time or last game.
Dan Patrick
Oh, because he signed off on. Boy, you got this one.
Dylan
He mushed me.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Wait, it's called mush.
Dylan
Yeah, it's like the being like the cooler.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
Patrick Ewing
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Paul
Todd, don't you guys think it's a wake up call that they went down 22 and it required them to make that wild comeback, that they're not going to let it get to that point. And they're going to go all out and make sure it's not particularly close. And they take the 20 lead to Cleveland.
Dan Patrick
Okay, well then why don't you bet, Dylan?
Paul
Oh, so you got the Cavs to win outright?
Dan Patrick
Yep.
Dylan
Straight up.
Paul
Okay, let's do that. I don't know, we'll figure out what the win is, but what the winner gets. But I think the knicks will go up 20 and I think they got woken up by the. Reggie Miller said, like if they take the Cavs for granted, they're going to run into a problem. So 22 point lead definitely woke up the Knicks, I think for this game tonight.
Dan Patrick
Wow. And they woke up. You too.
Paul
Woke me up.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah.
Caller
No, we can't. The Knicks can't win. New York City cannot handle the knicks being up 20 in a conference finals. Do you think 7th Avenue can handle that?
Dan Patrick
There will be a lot of topless dudes tonight. 7th Avenue, here we come. What was it Dylan gave us? 6th Avenue. Freeze out the 7th Avenue topless tarps off. Yes. Paul.
Paulie
Why do the wrong people always take their shirts off?
Dan Patrick
I know.
Paulie
Never the right people.
Dan Patrick
You're right about that.
Dylan
I take my shirt off a lot.
Paulie
My point exactly.
Dan Patrick
Exactly. You and Mario taking your shirts off. That is not good.
Dylan
Meow.
Dan Patrick
Todd, did I learn anything on today's award nominated program?
Paul
We all did. Isaiah says when he played today's ball dominated. NBA players were simply called the hogs that didn't want to pass.
Dan Patrick
Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. It's a meet Friday tomorrow. Dylan will do the honors. Thanks for joining us. Our pleasure to serve you for Fritzi, Dylan, Marv, Paulie, yours truly. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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Dan Patrick hosts NBA legend Patrick Ewing for a nostalgic, insightful conversation revisiting his days with the Knicks, classic NBA rivalries, old school college basketball, the evolution of big men, and the lasting impact of the Dream Team.
Ewing’s Homecoming:
Ewing reflects on his deep sense of belonging at Madison Square Garden, describing it as “one of my homes” after 15 years as a Knicks player and four in college basketball.
"I've had 15 great years here in New York as an athlete...I do feel like it's one of my homes." (03:55)
Front Row Friends:
Ewing jokes about always being seated next to John Starks at games:
“I keep telling him, John, you're gonna get us a tech. You keep trying to get onto the floor. Calm down.” (04:23)
He praises Knicks management for making former players feel welcome and part of the current team’s journey.
Dan asks about the stunning comeback in Game 1:
“Jalen Brunson did an outstanding job putting on his Superman cape...the team as a whole did everything right at the right time to come away with that win.” (05:19)
Most Memorable MSG Moment:
Ewing ponders, ultimately citing the win over Indiana to reach the NBA Finals:
"...When we beat Indiana to finally make it to the Finals...I got up on that table with my arms stretched out, just trying to show them my appreciation." (06:08)
Reggie Miller Rivalry:
On his feelings about Reggie Miller today:
“Sometimes I wonder, do I really still hate him? Do I like him now? ... He's a great actor...but it’s all water under the bridge now.” (07:02)
Dan draws parallels between Ralph Sampson and Victor Wembanyama, asking Ewing’s view:
“Ralph would've been a great player in this era...he was a skilled big...I see similarities with Victor. Every time I watch him play, I see how special he is.” (08:41)
On Shooting as a Big Man: Ewing shares how his range was stifled in college and early NBA:
“Back then, they wanted us to be back to the basket, dunking it...But I always could shoot...if I practiced threes like these guys, I'd probably be just as proficient.” (09:54)
Jokic in NBA History:
Whether Nikola Jokic is top-10 all-time:
“Joker is special...what he lacks in athleticism, he makes up in everything else...I would have loved to try to compete against him.” (11:40)
Facing Kareem:
Ewing shares stories about defending the aging Kareem, still unstoppable:
“I could push him to the three-point line. He still was rolling that skyhook...we need to double him.” (13:12)
Pat Riley tried to get him to develop the skyhook:
“Unlike Coach, that's just not my game...I’m a jump shooter.” (13:58)
Celebrity Encounters at the Garden:
Ewing shares starstruck moments with Lenny Kravitz, K-pop groups, and his kids’ reactions. He marvels at Knicks fans traveling and supporting on the road:
“We show up and we show out on these road games.” (16:02)
Spike Lee & Jordan:
On Spike Lee’s Knicks fandom despite friendship/commercials with Jordan:
“Michael and I were friends...but once we get on that floor, we were both trying to kick each other's butts. He lets me know every time...that I was not able to beat him.” (16:57)
Larry Bird Trash Talk:
Bird’s legendary banter:
“If I saw Larry today, he'd still probably talk trash...that’s how we got to be friends with the Dream Team.” (17:40)
Dream Team’s Global Impact:
On basketball’s globalization after ’92:
“When David Stern decided to let the NBA players play in the Olympics, that made basketball a global sport...that was one of the smartest things he did.” (18:53)
Dan and the crew reminisce about Ewing’s Georgetown days, John Thompson’s intimidating persona, and the defensive DNA of 1980s powerhouses:
“Everybody wanted...Georgetown gear...They just had this persona...when they came on the floor, it felt like they were already up five-nothing.” (25:23)
“John Thompson got his players to think defense first...there’s a correlation there to winning.” (25:23)
Paulie adds:
“They were the team...like the counterculture team. They did it differently. John Thompson was defiant and didn’t take anything from anybody, just like his team.” (26:55)
Patrick Ewing on MSG:
“It’s one of my homes...I’ve had 15 great years here in New York as an athlete.” (03:55)
On Reggie Miller:
“[Reggie Miller]...just call him an actor. He’s a great actor...He would have gotten an Academy Award for his acting.” (07:02)
On modern big men’s shooting:
“If I practiced [shooting threes], I probably would be just as proficient as they are.” (10:45)
On Kareem’s skyhook:
“I just didn’t get the feel of the sky hook. I was more of a jump hook guy...I’m a jump shooter.” (14:38)
On Michael Jordan’s trash talk:
“People talk about Larry Bird talking trash. I think [Jordan’s] probably the biggest trash talker that I ever been around.” (16:57)
On Dream Team’s legacy:
“[1992 Olympics]...that made basketball a global sport...that was one of the smartest things [David Stern] did.” (18:53)
The episode is informal and rich with NBA nostalgia, camaraderie, and gentle ribbing between Dan and Patrick Ewing. There’s reverence for the history of the game, humorous asides (especially on celebrity sightings and trash talk), and a keen appreciation for old school toughness, both at the pro and college levels.
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show delivers a masterclass in basketball nostalgia, with Patrick Ewing reflecting openly and joyfully on his Knicks career, his rivalries with legends like Reggie Miller, Kareem, and Jordan, and the evolution of the center position. Ewing’s candor—about everything from front-row antics with John Starks to his childhood soccer dreams in Jamaica—offers a rare insider’s view on what makes the Garden, the Knicks, and the NBA fraternity so special. The crew and callers round out the hour with anecdotes and spirited sports talk, bringing warmth and wit throughout.
If you miss this hour, you miss a living bridge between basketball’s golden past and its vibrant present.