Dan Patrick (5:08)

Poll question for the final hour of the program is going to be what? Seaton yeah. Let me get you some results here as we've just thrown a couple up. Not literally thrown up. I mentioned a couple of point spreads that changed. The Vikings are now getting five and a half. Against the Cowboys, they were getting six. The Chargers getting four and a half. Against the Chiefs, they were getting three and three and a half.

Paulie (5:30)

Yeah, Paul, I was looking at the odds after you ran through them. If Philip Rivers, let's say hypothetically became the starting quarterback this weekend, would it make the cold sides better or worse? What do you think?

Dan Patrick (5:43)

I don't think it'd move. Be as is 13 and a half. That's a lot. It's 13 and a half no matter who's quarterbacking.

Dan Patrick (5:52)

Packers are at the Broncos and the packers are favored by two and a half. The Bills are at the Patriots and the Bills are favored by one and a half. Very interesting betting lines there.

Dan Patrick (6:04)

The Falcons at the Buccaneers. Falcons are getting four and a half. That's a must. Must win for Tampa. That's Thursday night. I'm wondering.

Dan Patrick (6:16)

Man, it feels like Atlanta is going to have a coaching change. Feels like. It feels like. And there's a couple of teams that feels like they're going to have a coaching change.

Dan Patrick (6:27)

Falcon certainly one of those teams.

Dan Patrick (6:31)

The Browns against the Bears. The Browns are getting seven and a half. I mean, I don't know if Kevin Stefanski, who has been I think two time coach of the year, but there seems to be this thought that prevailing thought that Kevin Stefanski somehow doesn't want Shador Sanders to play even though shedor Sanders gives Kevin Stefanski a better chance to hold onto his job because Shador Sanders puts more of a fear or threat into the defense because he can throw the long ball. I mean he, he can make some plays. And look, is he a starting quarterback? I don't know yet. But I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say yes he is or no he isn't. He's got a couple of games here that he's going to go against some suspect defenses and he can put up some good numbers here. The Bears defense isn't great. They play Buffalo. That defense isn't great. They play Cincinnati. That defense isn't great. He's got a chance to put up some decent numbers here and maybe, you know, here's a couple of scenarios to, to factor in. If the Browns are in a position to take a quarterback that they really love and they have two first round draft picks, Shador Sanders may play himself into a position where he gets traded where he could play for somebody else. Yeah, once again I go back to where I thought he was going to end up, with the Raiders. I thought they were going to draft him.

Dan Patrick (7:58)

Maybe that could be a scenario, you know, as the Raiders move on from Geno Smith, they're probably going to have a coaching change as well, but he might build up enough of a sample size where the Browns say Fernando Mendoza is too good to pass up or whoever that quarterback Dante Moore might be too good to pass up. And we're going to have Shador. Now. You do have the desean Watson situation where he's going to come back next year. Now, I don't know if you have him as a backup. Do you have him on the roster? I don't know. Salary cap, dead cap money, any of the implications there. But that is a possibility, I think for Shador Sanders. Is he good enough for them to not take a quarterback? Yeah.

Paulie (8:43)

Paulie, Giants have the number one draft pick as of today. They will not take a quarterback. The Raiders right now have the number two pick. Geno Smith is under contract next year, guaranteed $26 million, but that's it. After next year they can get out from him. So that could be a situation. Tennessee as the third pick. Can't imagine drafting a quarterback again. Browns had the fourth pick as of now. The Browns also have in the trade for Travis Hunter, the Jacksonville pick which is now at 27.

Dan Patrick (9:11)

Yeah, gonna be tough to bypass a quarterback, I think, but maybe Shador plays well enough and he's. He should play well against these defenses coming up. And maybe, maybe they don't take a quarterback. Maybe they do have their quarterback there. I think that would be kind of the interesting thing to watch and watch the game. Don't look at highlights, don't look at stats because you don't get a full feeling. Maybe appreciation sometimes for quarterbacks. Well, players for that, you know. You know, if we're going to expand it, watching a player play an entire game gives you, you know, a fuller feel instead of looking at highlights because you can go, man, he looked great. Well, there are times when you can really look great and then there are times that you don't look great. You have seven highlights, but then you have all the other plays where you don't look that good. Yeah, Seaton the Shador has the problem now where he's being judged on a throw by throw basis. It isn't even game to game. It's every single throw that he makes. Told you he's good enough. Told you he wasn't good enough. It's every single play that he makes is either just obviously proof that he could do this or proof that he's not ready or not able to. Yeah. And the media hasn't helped him out because it feels like, you know, Now, I don't know if Shannon Sharpe was goofing around or, you know, being, you know, kind of sarcastic, but he said, oh, you know, if I'm Shador Sanders, I say, hey, I'm not playing these final four games against these teams. You put in Dylan Gabriel. And I thought, well, why wouldn't you want him to play against these defenses? And then he did come back on his show with Ochocinko saying, oh, it was just sarcasm. I'm like, okay, yeah, Paulie.

Paulie (10:58)

So many. Like Seat said, so many in the media cherry pick his good plays or bad plays to serve their narrative, not to recap the entire game.

Dan Patrick (11:07)

Yeah, it's. It's about, okay, I told you he can't throw. Oh, I told you he's athletic. I told you he's not athletic. You know that he's under the microscope. It's just, he's either going to be a starting quarterback or he's going to be a Tim Tebow, where it's going to be tough to put him on the roster because unless you have a great quarterback in front of him, you're always going to be saying, well, why? Hey, coach, you're going to put Shador in. No coach wants that. I mean, we saw Stefanski. He didn't want that. And for what? I'm told he knew that Dylan Gabriel was ready sooner, but he was not as good. He didn't have the arm that Shador has. And even somebody I know says, you know, Shador has a long way to go, but he has shown progress, which is what you want. He's a rookie quarterback, but we've spent way too much time on him and zero time on Cam Ward. Cam Ward does. Nobody talks about Cam Ward. He was a number one overall pick, and he does make throws where you go, now that's a guy. If you look at the highlights, you go, wow, watch the game. Now, granted, he's on a bad team, but watch the game. And he acts like a rookie quarterback, but with Shador Sanders, it is throw by throw. And that's unfortunate because I want to see what he can do, but it feels like everybody's using his play, good or bad, for their narrative, for their agenda.

Paulie (12:38)

Yeah, Paul, Cam Ward's last month as a starter. Four touchdowns, one pick, quietly improving.

Dan Patrick (12:44)

Yeah, he's all right. Nothing great. He'll make a couple of great throws, but, I mean, he's not Jaden Daniels. You know, people even looking at Caleb Williams, the Bears are succeeding, but they're doing that maybe in spite of Caleb Williams, they're running the football. That should help Caleb Williams be a really good quarterback, like he should be at this point, a really good or good quarterback, consistent quarterback, and most coaches will take that. I just want my quarterback to be consistent. I don't want that. Highs and lows, the ebb and flow here. Not at that position. Yeah.

Marvin (13:19)

Mark, how come we didn't talk about Cam Ward more? Because he went to the U. It's not like he went to some small. He didn't come out of some small school. Was it Shador Shadow was just so big. It just loomed over everybody else in the draft. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (13:31)

Yes. Leading up to the draft, it was, oh, well, they're going to take Cam Ward. And then we moved on. That was it. And he kind of came out of nowhere. Now, he had other stops where he's successful, but, you know, Washington State, Incarnate word. And then you go to the U, and then you're like, oh, okay, he played well. But that. There was nothing where you. We're like, oh, my God. You know, Dion, you know, created this because of, you know, him. You had Shador, and Shador played at a pretty high level, and then you had the Heisman Trophy winner as well at Colorado. But I. I mean, have we talked about Travis Hunter? Did we talk about him before he got injured? Very little.

Dan Patrick (14:16)

Very little. But that is really a peek into what this sports business has devolved into. Who gets clicks? It's not, is that the right story to cover? It's who gets clicks and clicks wins. That's how. That's how things are programmed. And, you know, it's unfortunate because there are good stories that just don't get covered, and I can be guilty of that as well. But then there are times when the Cowboys are relevant or Shador Sanders is relevant, and then you cover them appropriately. It's not. How do we go out of our way to talk about LeBron or. I mean, I go back to what Skip Bayless used to do. And look, I think what Skip did was brilliant at the time because he's saying more people care about the Cowboys one way or another than any other topic. More people care about LeBron one way or another than any other topic. And he would play the hits every single day.

Dan Patrick (15:20)

So when you tuned in, you knew he was talking about the Cowboys or LeBron one way or another, and you would have an opinion. Now, there are other stories to cover, but Skip did this before anybody did this. He programmed it how he wanted to, and it was like, you're playing the same four or five songs over and over and over and over and over. Yeah, Paul, the peak of this.

Paulie (15:45)

And I'm not going to name names or shows, but there was a show that celebrated Tim Tebow's birthday like it was a national holiday. It was August 14th. The football season haven't started. It wasn't even like a relevant topic. I remember sitting here with you guys like they're doing three segments on Tim Tebow's birthday and his future into sport. It was mid August.

Dan Patrick (16:02)

Yeah, we should have done four segments on that. And you know what? That drove Tim Tebow out of the NFL. When you think about it, you couldn't have him as a backup quarterback because if then you had to cut him. Oh, how can you cut him? He's Tim Tebow. Well, this is what the media does. You make him so powerful. Tim couldn't start in the NFL, but he could have been maybe a, you know, a tight end, maybe an emergency third string quarterback. Maybe he could have been a taste, some hill. But, but he didn't want that. And you know, the narrative was no, they're not giving Tim a chance. Okay? Tim wasn't a good NFL quarterback. He made, you know, Tebow time, but it felt like he's the one that made Tebow time because he didn't do anything prior to Tebow time. And then he'd have a big play and you go at Tebow, Tebow time. This ain't Florida where you're surrounded by NFL players. He was a great college quarterback, but there's big difference. You know, you could scramble out of prep. You know, Tim would always do that. You scramble out of pressure and you're in college. NFL can't do that. But you, you know, you're always hyping him. Therefore everybody. Well, why didn't Tim Tebow plant which he's better than that guy. Well, no, he wasn't. Yeah. Mortal.

Marvin (17:26)

We used to say the same thing about Cam Newton. Because Cam Newton was such a big star and a big personality. There's no way he could be the backup. We used to call it the Cam Cam.

Dan Patrick (17:34)

Yeah.

Marvin (17:34)

Anytime somebody, the starter with the interception, a pan the camera right to Cam Newton, see what his reaction is. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (17:40)

When he was in New England, you're like, put him in. Why don't you put Cam in? And you can't miss him on the sidelines. But yeah, we, you know, the media and I get it, it's, it's ratings driven. You want people watching, you want people listening. I understand that. I just Hope that some stories don't fall to the wayside that stories that should be brought to light. Michael in Oregon. Hey, Mike. What's on your mind.

Dan Patrick (18:08)

Dan?

Caller (18:09)

First time caller, actually. And I just pulled your TV show up for the first time too. 6ft 210.

Caller (18:18)

I wanted to comment on your lasers on top of the goal posts.

Marvin (18:23)

Yep.

Caller (18:23)

And what a conundrum that would cause because when the ball goes obviously through the laser, is it blinking right and through the uprights for a field goal or is it doinking left and no good?

Dan Patrick (18:37)

Whoa. I haven't thought that out.

Paulie (18:40)

We should let smart people call.

Dan Patrick (18:41)

Yeah, Michael, I'm, I'm not. I just come up with ideas, that's all. What do you do with a doink? What's a doink sound like off a laser? Yeah.

Dan Patrick (18:55)

Well, maybe if you put the lasers on the outside, therefore if it touches the laser, then that's a doink. Then it doesn't. I don't know.

Paulie (19:05)

Yeah, Paul, I would have failed physics completely. But I think if you put the laser right in the middle of the. The center circumference of the goal post and shot upwards, if it hits a laser, that means it was going out or coming back, Right.

Dan Patrick (19:20)

Why don't we just build? Yeah, see, you can't do that in the wind and goal post and you know, the higher up it goes and I don't know, maybe, maybe we shouldn't do the lasers. It sounded like a good idea two hours ago. I will take a break, Paul. Fine. Bomb. He's on fire. Calling Notre Dame crybabies. How would Paul feel if this happened to Alabama and the sec?

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I think Shaq's gonna join us tomorrow or Friday. Rob Gronkowski not sure if it's tomorrow or Friday as well. You know, one of the things I love about Paul Feinbaum is I'm never quite sure where he stands on a topic. You know, he's usually very neutral. So when he says that the committee got it right. And the crying from Notre Dame is quite frankly embarrassing. They cried, they didn't get their way. And then they said, you know, we're going home, we're taking our ball like a five year old on the playground by not going to a bowl game. Why did they get it right? Because Notre Dame had very little to show on its resume. Had they joined the acc, which they, by the way, are a member of in every other sport, they would have played for the ACC championship game. Paul Feinbaum of the Mothership joining us on the program.

Dan Patrick (25:42)

Hey, you're a little fired up about Notre Dame. What? What drew your ire?

Paul Feinbaum (25:48)

Yeah, but I have a correction, Dan. In the acc, Notre Dame is a member, I think also in field hockey. So let me make sure I tell America that.

Dan Patrick (25:57)

Fair enough.

Paul Feinbaum (26:00)

Dan, you've been around Notre Dame a lot and I spent most of Monday on espn talking about your interview with the ad, and.

Paul Feinbaum (26:10)

I think if he had stopped there, it would have been great. He went on a big platform, he told it, told us, told everybody off. But then he continued to talk and he talked himself into a corner. And ultimately Notre Dame's resume is good. It's not great. Is this committee good? No, no. I mean, it was a clown show. We all know that. And they changed the rules as they went along. But ultimately, I still felt Miami deserved to be in. Did Alabama. Should Alabama have made it? I think so. Yeah. I said that. And stop us, because I live in Alabama and. And I have a Dick Saban fat head in my bedroom. It's because I. It's because I. I believe that they should not have been eliminated by playing an extra game. But, you know, all that. It. Notre Dame is the story of the week. And the one thing I don't understand, that Pete said here and. And later at a press conference, he made all these threats. What has he done since making all these threats?

Dan Patrick (27:11)

Well, I think that's on. I think that's coming up in January.

Dan Patrick (27:15)

I think there'll be something that's happening. I think it was smart to say, hey, we're going to, you know, huddle, and we're going to figure out what our next move is. I thought they were too reactionary. You know, when the kids said, we're not going to play in a bowl game, I think if they gave them a couple of days to think about it. Even Pete's reaction when, you know, we reached out and he said, yeah, come on. And then all of a sudden he said, there's permanent damage. I think if he would have stopped and said, hey, explain to me how we're ahead of this team for five weeks. And then all of a sudden it gets to the final, you know, the day of reckoning, and then they leapfrog us. Explain that to me. I think we all could have understood that if that happened to Alabama. How would you react if Alabama was ahead of Miami for five weeks and then Miami leapfrog them? How would Greg Sankey, the commissioner of the sec, reacted to something like that? So there I thought he was right. I understand that. But he didn't stay with that.

Paul Feinbaum (28:15)

He.

Dan Patrick (28:16)

He, you know, he expounded upon it. And I think that's where everybody focused on all Notre Dame. Crybaby. Take your ball and go home.

Paul Feinbaum (28:26)

Yeah, Dan. Had it been Alabama, I would have been on the footsteps of the Capitol, calling for a federal investigation.

Dan Patrick (28:34)

Of course.

Paul Feinbaum (28:38)

Thank you. Would have been crashing the back gate at the White House. But, but, and I agree. I was on first take down the. Down the dial when, when the story broke about your interview and I like, oh, my goodness. I mean, this sounded like a major break, but two days later found in fury signifying nothing. Here we are. But that's okay. It's been the story of the week. And, and Notre Dame got this, you know, continued to be in the news. And by the way, it's. It's about the most relevancy Notre Dame has. Has had at least since last year's national championship game. Wow. They've taken the, the attention off Marcus Freeman maybe looking around at the NFL.

Dan Patrick (29:16)

Well, you know who is happy about this is Lane Kiffin.

Paul Feinbaum (29:19)

Oh, yeah.

Dan Patrick (29:20)

Yeah. If the spotlight shifted off Lane Kiffin, he's like, coast is clear.

Paul Feinbaum (29:24)

Yeah, maybe, maybe not though. I think we both know Lane well enough to know that he sits up every morning and if his Twitter mention start to. He's upset.

Dan Patrick (29:36)

He's letting his coaches coach for like. I'm trying to understand this from ole misses perspective that you don't want Lane, but you'll take his coaches.

Dan Patrick (29:46)

Why not a clean break?

Paul Feinbaum (29:50)

It's pretty obvious they just did not trust Lane. And.

Paul Feinbaum (29:55)

Dan, I don't want to get in trouble with Nick Saban, but the precedent was really set in 2016. Everybody knows what happened.

Paul Feinbaum (30:06)

And Kiffin was on the Alabama staff. He got hired by Florida Atlantic and he. And he remained. But he was. He did such a poor job. I have. I had several people come up to me this weekend in Atlanta and say, yeah, I was on the field with Kiffin and Kiffin, I mean, during a practice, not, not after practice, not during warm ups. Kiffin's over there in the corner on the phone trying to get his coaching staff together. He was not paying attention. And. And Saban got so fed up, he fired him. But then Saban was out. Oh, Lane should be at Ole Miss.

Paul Feinbaum (30:37)

And I think the Ole Miss people just did not want that. They didn't believe that Kiffin could be trusted with. I think the, the passwords to the computer were all the. This. The secrets were with. With recruiting and everything else. Even though he had just been there the day before. It was a mess. But it's Lane Kiffin and you always expect, you know, some theatrics.

Dan Patrick (30:57)

Did Ole Miss ever have a chance here?

Paul Feinbaum (31:00)

No, I don't think so. I mean, Lane Kiffin is like. Is like that girlfriend in high school. You walk into the party and she's looking right over your shoulder at the quarterback. I mean, Lane never can be. He's been looking for for years. Three years ago he almost took the Auburn job just close. Two years ago he wanted the Alabama job, but he never got a call. And last year he was, I think he was already packing to go down to Florida and Lane screwed that one up. He took his Ole Miss team down to Florida and lost save Billy Napier's job. But, but by the time it got to mid season he knew Florida was going to be open. But the real moment that occurred was when Brian Kelly got fired, giffen said. Oh my goodness, I could actually have that job which, which is a better job than Florida. It's a better job than Ole Miss. That's not really. You don't need me to say that Nick Saban told him that because Nick Saban has told a lot of people that. I mean, Nick Saban had this love affair with lsu, but he couldn't, he couldn't stay there because he had so many NFL openings. But he never quite got over it even though he only won six national championships at Alabama.

Dan Patrick (32:08)

Where is Lane Kiffin? In five years.

Paul Feinbaum (32:12)

He might still be in lsu, but he's going to have to win a national championship. But I would think ultimately he'll move on. I don't know if Lane goes back to the NFL at some point. I mean, I think now that Al Davis has been dead and buried for a number of years, I think the reverberations from that are over. But I think ultimately he's just never going to be happy anywhere. But I think he could get a national championship at lsu. Dan, stop me if you've heard this before, but Les Miles and Ed Ogeron both won national championships at laq. The two of us could walk in off the street and win a national championship down there. It's not that hard.

Dan Patrick (32:47)

Paul Feinbaum, host of the Paul Feinbaum Show Monday through Friday on sec network from 3 to 7 Eastern. What kind of changes do we have in the off season with college football?

Paul Feinbaum (32:59)

Well, guess they're going to have a meeting, Dan, probably at a five star resort somewhere near the, near the, near the Southern Cal Mexican border. So it's warm in the winter and they'll retool the sea. The cfp. They'll put in a couple of tweaks that don't make any sense. But that, that's going to be the big one. They've already made most of the rules. The the transfer portal is now back to January so the bowl season doesn't get overwhelmed. The bowl season that I think they're still looking for people to play in a bowl game. But ultimately this Notre Dame, ACC conversation is going to dominate once they start meeting again in January. But I should have just said nothing's going to change. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to go so long.

Dan Patrick (33:46)

Could you see Notre Dame saying, you know what, we're going to go into the Big Ten with all of our sports and we will play a limited schedule, a partial schedule with the Big Ten.

Paul Feinbaum (33:58)

It could happen. Now they have that contract with the ACC and I'm sure some of the bluster by Pete was to get out of that and I'm sure at some point the ACC is going to let them go. But yeah, the SEC and the Big Ten would probably be more than happy to fill in that role. But I think the Big Ten is where they belong even on a limited schedule. It's good for tv. I'm sure Fox would and all the, you know, the 17 other networks that the Big Ten is on would love to, to do a five game schedule, especially with Ohio State and Michigan and some of the bigger names in the Big Ten because that's really all they do in the, in the acc and they, and they, they, they went in and tweaked it where now they're playing the better. They're not just playing Wake Forest anymore. They're playing Clemson and Miami and the schools that matter.

Dan Patrick (34:42)

You believe in Indiana?

Paul Feinbaum (34:46)

Yes, it's taken me. I, I am the, I mean it's too late to get on the bandwagon. I've missed that and also ran over my foot. But yes, I believe in him. I mean I did not. I mean I think that's pretty well known. But I mean I'm, I'm, I'm half blind, but I'm not entirely blind. I can see how good they are.

Dan Patrick (35:04)

It's one of the great stories though in recent college football. I mean based off the history, you know, when we were growing up, Indiana, I mean It's a losing U.S. program in, in college football and to do this in a two year period.

Dan Patrick (35:20)

And he stays.

Paul Feinbaum (35:20)

Dan, to think about this Saturday night in New York during that just fantastic Heisman show which I know you, you're a big fan of. Tune in it at 8:57 and you have not missed anything. By the way.

Paul Feinbaum (35:36)

The fact that Indiana and Vanderbilt are two of the four schools represented among the finalists is pretty spectacular.

Dan Patrick (35:43)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean when you think about it, growing up, Vandy was always the and such and such won by over Vandy. Indiana. Ohio state beats Indiana 55 to nothing. And here you have two Heisman candidates there. Pretty amazing.

Dan Patrick (36:01)

Yeah.

Paul Feinbaum (36:02)

I mean, I used to cover Alabama games when people were really intent on the final series, and that was whether Alabama covered the 42 point spread against Vanderbilt or not.

Dan Patrick (36:13)

Do you have anything nice to say about anybody today.

Paul Feinbaum (36:18)

Dan? Can I get back to you on that?

Dan Patrick (36:21)

Yes, you can. Thank you, Paul.

Paul Feinbaum (36:24)

Thank you, Dan.

Dan Patrick (36:25)

That's Paul Feinbaum, voice of the sec. Paul Feinbaum show every Monday through Friday on SEC Network, three to seven Easter.

Dan Patrick (36:36)

Snarky. Let's see. Brooks in Florida. Hi, Brooks. What's on your mind today?

Caller (36:43)

Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I had two comments, one on the College Football Playoff. I'm thinking why don't we let Vegas just handle the rankings and get rid of the committee because Vegas tells you who's the better team anyways.

Dan Patrick (36:56)

Yeah, yeah, we brought that up before. I forget what the reason. I think it made people uncomfortable if Vegas was running college football. But they're the most objective. Like they have the most to lose in this scenario. Millions and millions of dollars. But thank you, Brooks. Yeah, we, we've mentioned that before. Bucky in Illinois. Hi, Buck. What's on your mind?

Caller (37:22)

Hey, dp, thanks for taking my call. Quick comment. And then I got a poll question for you and the Danette. Quick comment about the College Football Playoff. If you're, if you're from the American or you're from the Seven Belt Conference and you're going to make the College Football Playoff, like you automatically have to be undefeated to get in, in my opinion. But quick, quick poll question for you in the Dan.

Dan Patrick (37:46)

Okay.

Caller (37:48)

As a senior college football player, would you rather go to a Division 3 school, win the Gagliardi Trophy and win a national championship, or would you rather go and ride the bench for an Ohio State and win a national championship that way?

Dan Patrick (38:06)

Okay, so you get to be a bench player for Ohio State, win a national championship, but I don't get a scholarship at Ohio State, Is that what you're saying?

Caller (38:17)

Probably not. Probably not.

Dan Patrick (38:19)

Okay. Because if I got a scholarship at Ohio State, I'm going to take that because then I'm, I got my school paid for. You go Division 3, you got to pay for it usually yourself. You get a little financial aid. Yes, Marvin.

Marvin (38:31)

But if you're on scholarship as an athlete at Ohio State, you would want to play somewhere else because you were probably all state somewhere.

Dan Patrick (38:39)

Yeah.

Marvin (38:40)

So you're not going to go to Ohio State just to sit the bench Just to say I went to Ohio State. Right.

Dan Patrick (38:46)

Depends on if you grew up in Ohio and you want to be an Ohio State Buckeye.

Marvin (38:50)

You just ride the bench.

Dan Patrick (38:51)

I don't. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. The Division 3. I love watching that. I love watching the. The smaller schools play for championships. And, you know, you get. It's. It's always fun to see those schools and how much it means to them. And the fact North Dakota State is out at South Dakota State, I think, is out as well. So it's wide open there in the fbs. Yes, Marvin.

Marvin (39:19)

No, no. I was shaking my head. I was green.

Dan Patrick (39:22)

Oh, thank you. Yeah.

Paulie (39:23)

Paul, Division 3 Final 4 this weekend. Dan, I know you're watching, but it's John Carroll versus Barry Wheaton versus UW River Falls. That's some heavyweights.

Dan Patrick (39:32)

Yeah, that's different. Yeah.

Paul Feinbaum (39:34)

Some new.

Paulie (39:34)

Yeah, like uw. Whitewater's out. Mount Union's out. Fresh blood.

Dan Patrick (39:38)

Yeah. John Carroll used to be. I think Don Shuler went to John Carroll. I believe. I believe. But they used to be a football powerhouse.

Marvin (39:47)

Yes, Marvin, I did have one question.

Dan Patrick (39:48)

Okay.

Marvin (39:49)

Poll question. Ohio State or D3. That's a big jump. Maybe Ohio State 1, double A or something like that. But you can't you sit the bench at Ohio State or you play D3?

Dan Patrick (40:01)

So would you rather go to North Dakota State and play for them and win a national championship or be a bench player at Ohio State and they won a national championship?

Marvin (40:10)

Play at North Dakota State?

Dan Patrick (40:11)

I'd rather play at North Dakota State. I mean, that's a high level. Yes.

Marvin (40:14)

Todd, would you play for Wheaton if you can't tolerate gluten?

Dan Patrick (40:17)

Thank you. Todd. Yes, Paul?

Paulie (40:21)

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Yeah, you should. Yeah. I would distance myself.

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No one situation.

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They put their pants on, same way we do. All right.

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The look on Lou Holtz's face when I did my Lou Holtz impersonation to him, that did not go well, as it shouldn't have. What? My. It's my impersonation. Pretty good. Oh, Dan, the more real it is.

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Dan Patrick (40:56)

Oh, correct. So I'm asking, was it a good impersonation?

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Yeah.

Dan Patrick (41:02)

Okay. Thanks. That's all I cared about.

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They put their pants on. Same way.

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He did. He said, first of all. First of all, I don't say that. I'm not saying that. Word never kicked the Lord's lean in. Oh my God. Okay, but aside from that, how did it sound? They put their pants out same way we do. How about we take a break? Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow right after this. Oh dear. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Dan Patrick (46:44)

Let me see. Also you have Army Navy coming up this weekend. I think Navy is favored by six against Army.

Paulie (46:53)

Yes, Paul, I got the preseason NFL MVP odds and Matthew Stafford was 35 to 1. Drake May is not on the top 50 board.

Dan Patrick (47:01)

Wow.

Paulie (47:02)

Ahead of Matt Stafford were Purdy Stroud, Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, etc. Etc.

Dan Patrick (47:08)

Etc. Etc. Alrighty. A couple more phone calls in here. Curtis in Illinois is back. Hi, Curtis. What's on your mind? I got army favored by six against Navy or no, getting six and the over unders 38 and a half. 38 and a half. Hi, Curtis.

Paul Feinbaum (47:27)

Morning.

Dan Patrick (47:27)

DP Morning.

Caller (47:28)

Got a pseudo solution for your field goal problem. Instead of using the lasers, every other goal in sports isn't open ended like that. So why don't we just put another crossbar on the top and you have to make it through the rectangle. And then if you wanted to make it even more difficult, instead of just having it where these guys can kick 50, 60 yards, why don't we put a net on the field goal post and put a target in the middle that's worth three points. And if you don't get it on that target, but you still make it within, you only get two like Savannah bananas.

Dan Patrick (48:03)

I don't want to get to that point. Okay. I mean, it was kind of a whimsical suggestion to have lasers up there on the goalpost. That's all. You could raise the goalpost up two feet. Yes, Todd, you can't turn into a carnival.

Marvin (48:17)

You're going to shoot the water into the clown's mouth and win a prize.

Dan Patrick (48:19)

Come on.

Marvin (48:22)

Targets in certain parts of the.

Dan Patrick (48:23)

That's getting a little quick. Thank you, Todd. Josh in North Dakota. Hi, Josh. What's on your mind?

Caller (48:31)

Hi, dan. Dan, it's 51025 0.

Caller (48:37)

I just have to say, as a proud NDSU alum, I love that you're talking about my Bison, Lil Hurd. And the dynasty will continue. But I know you talked about it earlier. You were talking about Cleveland or these other teams. A team that I, as a Giants fan, would be looking at is the Rams. Excuse me, but with Matthew Stafford year.

Dan Patrick (48:55)

To year.

Caller (48:58)

Matthew Stafford year to year, would the Rams want to trade up and take a guy like Mendoza? Because if you look at it, you can have him sit behind Stafford and then you can pay that defense when or as Mendoza's on a rookie Deal. Then if you're the Giants, you still with that stopping pick can take a top receiver and then you have all kinds of flexibility at the end of the first round.

Dan Patrick (49:20)

Yeah, I think we initially thought I did that this might be the last year for Stafford. And then they go in to the draft and they get themselves a quarterback. I don't. The way Stafford's playing and protecting him, I mean he's probably going to be your mvp. I don't know if he walks away from that. It's a good team. You got a lot of talent there. So I don't, I don't know if it's one of those situations where all of a sudden you get that I, they have to start thinking about that. And if you do that now, because if you're Stafford, you're like, don't waste any of those picks. I mean, we could use more picks with talent that can help us win again, you know, if they win the Super Bowl. But he's been healthy. That was the one thing that prevented me from picking the Rams this year was I didn't think Stafford would be healthy enough. And he certainly proved me wrong this day in sports history. Paul, I got a couple for you.

Paulie (50:20)

The NL in 1919 voted to ban spitballs by pitchers. How about that? 1972, the AL voted to adopt the designated hitter rule in a three year experiment. And they kept it. Lastly. Oh no. Michael Vick in 07 was sentenced at 23 months in prison.

Dan Patrick (50:38)

2016, Lamar Jackson, the youngest player to win the Heisman. He was 19 years of age.

Dan Patrick (50:45)

Same day 2012, Johnny Manziel, the first freshman to win the Heisman.

Dan Patrick (50:52)

I guess redshirt freshman, although it says first freshman. Also on this date in 2002, Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen played against one another for the first and only time. Scotty was with Portland and Mike was with the Wizards. They both scored 14 points as Portland ended up winning that game. I did not remember that. I did not know that. Alan in Syracuse. Hi, Alan. What's on your mind today?

Caller (51:22)

Hey, Dan.

Paul Feinbaum (51:23)

And Dan.

Caller (51:23)

That's first time, long time, 6 foot 200. Syracuse. And I just wanted to kind of help out with the idea of this poll between.

Caller (51:37)

Riding the bench at Ohio State or being the best player in Division 3. But you were talking about North Dakota State, I believe that's what we used to call Division 2. And Division 3 is much smaller. Schools like Cortland and Ithaca College in New York, both of whom have won Division 3 Nationals.

Dan Patrick (51:56)

Well, it was one double A.

Dan Patrick (51:59)

Right? Yes, D1. And then it was one. Double A.

Caller (52:03)

Absolutely.

Dan Patrick (52:04)

Yeah. All right. Well, thank you, Al. Yeah. Division three. Yeah, I'm well aware of Division three. University of Dayton won a national title in football in Division 3. They beat Ithaca. I think it was 77 to nothing. And then they said to Dayton, you can't be Division 3 anymore because you have a Division 1 basketball team. So they had to get out of Division three football because they thought it was an unfair recruiting advantage for the Dayton Flyers. But I think they beat Ithaca college Something like 77 to nothing. Yes.

Paulie (52:37)

Paul, I think you said one time you Wish you went D3 so you had the green light.

Dan Patrick (52:41)

Oh, yeah, yeah. I would have taken the green light on the court. Off the court. Mount Union and I didn't get the green light on the quarter. Off the court.

Marvin (52:50)

Yes, Tom, you know the Vegas points, but was 76 and a half back then?

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For sure.

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