Dan Patrick (3:15)

Let's see, we got up there right now. Team that will drop off this season and miss the playoffs. Vikings and commanders sort of running away with that one. Everybody thinks the Chiefs will be in the playoffs. Okay, hot take.

Paul Pabst (3:29)

Except for you.

Dan Patrick (3:29)

Except for me. Someone also commented on that, that apparently I'm on the pink stuff.

Paul Pabst (3:38)

The pink stuff.

Dan Patrick (3:39)

Yeah. Apparently I'm on the pink stuff.

Paul Pabst (3:41)

The pink stuff. On the yacht.

Dan Patrick (3:42)

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm speaking of pink stuff. Off to a more iffy start. Stefan Diggs in the Patriots or Bill Belichick in North Carolina. That's at about 68% for Bill. People still not thrilled with that situation. Yeah. Yeah.

Paul Pabst (3:57)

All you gotta do is win games. That's all. Stefan Diggs just catch passes, score touchdowns. Feels like, you know, those things have a way of going away really quickly. Yeah, Paulie.

Dan Patrick (4:11)

But there's no way for Diggs to play his way out of this in June.

Paul Pabst (4:14)

No.

Marvin Harrison (4:14)

Right.

Paul Pabst (4:14)

Or July. Yeah. Or August. It's just, do you address it once and then that's it. We'll check in with the Patriots coming up. Stat of the day is always brought to you by panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Thank you. If you're watching on peacock, that's our streaming partner listening on our radio affiliates over 400 cities that carry the program. IHeartRadio Fox Sports Radio as well. Also, I mentioned this because I, I do think it's important Lions all pro center Frank Ragnow announced his retirement. They did draft a couple of offensive linemen that maybe you can turn them into a center. But you lose your center on a team that I Mean, Penny Sewell is a, you know, a future hall of Fame lineman, but you got Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs. You know, you got a quarterback who's not exactly mobile. I mean, they got everything that you need to, you know, compete. But now you lose your center and you lose both your coordinators in the off season. Phil Perry covers the Patriots Patriots Insider for NBC Sports Boston. Kind enough to join us. So digs at practice but didn't talk. What kind of update has the media been given on his availability to address what happened recently?

Phil Perry (5:40)

Yeah, we haven't been given any update, Dan, and thanks for having me, first of all. But I think what's probably going to happen is during the mandatory minicamp portion of the off season calendar here, so that'll be June 9th through 11th for the Patriots, that we would at some point have some availability to him. So we're going to apply as much pressure as humanly possible, Dan, and we're going to, we're going to make sure we get him in front of a microphone. I think he's probably not all that scared of speaking to us on his way out to the field yesterday, he made sure to basically stop and wave at the cameras and say, you know, nice to see you all. So I think he'll be ready to talk to us whenever the team will allow it.

Paul Pabst (6:19)

If I gave you the first question, what are you asking Stefan Diggs, can.

Phil Perry (6:25)

You tell us what was in the bag? You know, I think that is that to me is is kind of at the crux of it. And I think his answer, Dan, while I wouldn't expect him to be all that forthcoming with us, we'll see. I think how he answers that question to Mike Vrabel could make a serious impact on their relationship moving forward. Mike is obviously a former player. He is not naive to what players might be doing a Memorial Day weekend when they're away from the team during the voluntary portion of the NFL, NFL calendar. But I think if you're going to start off on that kind of foot where he can tell if you are being dishonest with him, that you've been dishonest with him, that to me doesn't bode well for that relationship moving forward. As desperately as the Patriots need him, they need this guy. They need him to be on the field. They need him to be their best receiver, which to me is asking a lot for somebody who's coming off of his injury and is on the other side of 30. But that's sort of where they're at in terms of that receiver room and the talent offensively on the team overall. But I think that the answer to that question for Diggs to variable and what was he doing on the boat and what kind of decisions were being made will be really critical for them.

Paul Pabst (7:36)

Is this a Patriots situation or does this escalate that this is an NFL situation?

Phil Perry (7:45)

I think the difficult part of this, if the NFL was ever going to try to get involved, is how would you prove anything?

Paul Pabst (7:54)

Right?

Phil Perry (7:54)

I mean, the video we have is what it is. You can't really tell what's in the bag. He's not actually consuming anything that was in the bag. He's giving it away. He is saying it sounds like, don't do it all, go have a good time and then come back and see me. So, you know, that doesn't sound great if you're the Patriots or the NFL, but I don't know how you would enforce anything other than maybe to use the league's broadcast powers of being able to punish these guys the way they. They used to without much in the way of evidence. But I think they've kind of gotten away from that and they've wanted to rely more on, okay, if something happens, you know, if law enforcement gets involved and they have been convicted of something, then we'll step in and we'll punish from there. I think they want to get out of the. The legal business, the law enforcement business, quite frankly. So I, I think this would, if anything, damn. My guess is because if you're very able, you have to do something. I think you have to do. You're trying to establish a culture here. You're trying to show that, you know, we're not only going to make sure we hold the guys that are on the. The lower end of the totem pole to a certain standard, but this guy's going to be one of our best players. We think we have to make sure we hold him to that very same standard. So my guess is there might be some kind of fine or something else behind closed doors that the rest of the team knows about to make sure that they have made a statement in the aftermath of all this.

Paul Pabst (9:17)

How's the building different since Belichick left?

Phil Perry (9:23)

Well, it was very different last year under Gerard Mayo, that's for sure. I think Mayo wanted to make sure, even though he spent his entire pro career under Belichick, that he was going to make it very clear to everybody that business was going to be done differently. What's interesting with Vrabel is that he wants to separate himself from Bill too, but we're hearing some of the same messages. Maybe it's a slightly different wording involved, but like, you know, we're still hearing. I think he even said it, maybe even in this order, Dan, during his introductory press conference, that he wants smart, tough, and dependable players. We've been hearing smart, tough, dependable from Bill and I'm sure other coaches as well. But that was one of Bill's, you know, relied upon cliches in that building for years and years and years. And we're still hearing it from Mike. Mike is a big fan of saying things like he wants players who are going to treat the team appropriately, and if they don't, then he has to protect the team. And Bill had it right on the door as you were leaving the building. Put the team first. Speak for yourself. Put the team first. And so there are going to be some Belichicking kinds of vibes with Vrabel, whether he wants to acknowledge it or not. And he, I think, would bristle at the notion that there would be any similarities between the two of them, but there are. They're old school football guys. They want their team to be run a certain way. Mike, I think, will be much more of a players coach. And you're already hearing that from some of the players. But just in terms of their overall philosophies, they're pretty similar.

Paul Pabst (10:50)

As far as reporters, how many are still covering Belichick? How important is that story in New England now that he's in North Carolina?

Phil Perry (11:01)

Oh, it's huge. We talk about it almost every day. The Jordan Hudson stuff. I mean, we can't get enough up here, Dan. It's. It is the story, I would say, in the re, even as the Celtics are making a run in the postseason, the thing that people will stop you on the street and ask you about is Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson and what's going on there and how is he allowing this to happen and how long is he going to last in North Carolina? We talk about it all almost every night because there's. Almost every day there's something new. Thank God for our buddy Pablo Torre. I mean, unbelievable the work that he's been doing. And I know there are others who, you know, who may look at that and say, is, is that how we should be spending our time? I heard Bill Simmons say something to.

Paul Pabst (11:43)

That effect recently on a podcast.

Phil Perry (11:45)

But people are interested. And so, you know, I get it. And. And we certainly are interested still up here as well. And I think people are just fascinated to see what the football looks like, of course they're interested in all the Jordan Hudson stuff. I mean, we had people that were interested in the Miss Maine pageant results a couple weeks ago, Dan. So people are 100% in on that end of the storyline. But I think people really want to see how is Bill going to be able to handle college kids? How is he going to adapt to the college game? Is he going to actually be able to win? If he doesn't, what do those press conferences look like? Because for those of us that have sat in those rooms, you know, I covered bill for almost 15 years and sat in the front row for a lot of those press conferences and got a lot of very awkward stare downs and very awkward pauses and sometimes worse than that, which I'm sure everybody that's listening is familiar with as well. So if you're writing for the Daily Bugle on, you know, on North Carolina's campus there, whatever that is, the Daily Tar Heel, you know, how do those interactions go with, with Coach Belichick? You know, that to me is a fascinating part of this, too. If it doesn't go all that great.

Paul Pabst (12:54)

On the football field, I'll give you five minutes with Belichick or five minutes with Stefan Diggs.

Phil Perry (13:04)

I'm taking Diggs in that scenario, Dan, because I think even after covering Bill, as long as I've covered. As long as I've covered him, I'm not sure five minutes with Bill is going to yield all that much for me.

Paul Pabst (13:16)

Jordan Hunt. What about his girlfriend? Five minutes with Jordan Hudson or Stefan Diggs?

Phil Perry (13:24)

I'm taking digs.

Paul Pabst (13:25)

Okay. But I'm curious.

Phil Perry (13:26)

I would, I would like to hear your reporter's instincts on that. Like, if you got, if you had digs, what would be the first thing you would ask him?

Paul Pabst (13:32)

The same thing I would say. What was in the back?

Phil Perry (13:35)

Yeah, I think you have to, right?

Paul Pabst (13:37)

Well, yes, because it's, it's videoed. I mean, he, he saw it. He was being videotaped. And it's not like he was done in a clandestine, surreptitiously way. He was there presenting this and there's Cardi B. And two other women there. They're not crushed up. Sweet tarts. I mean, there's something there.

Phil Perry (13:59)

So, yeah, fun dip. You didn't think it was fun dip?

Paul Pabst (14:01)

Well, it was for him and them. I'm guessing it was fun dip in a different way. But yeah, I think you got to ask that. And I don't know how he's going to answer this because at some point he has to answer it, but, you know, does it go away soon after that? And certainly if you play well, nobody cares. I wouldn't have signed him to begin with at that age. Coming off an injury, I don't want him to do to Drake May what maybe he was doing to Josh Allen. Even though he was really good with Josh Allen, there's a reason why he's bounced around to a couple of teams here. I want Drake May to establish his own receivers. And I brought up when Baker Mayfield was in Cleveland and they brought in OBJ and he deferred to OBJ to the detriment of Baker Mayfield and the team.

Phil Perry (14:51)

It's so interesting because this is why they made such a hard push for Chris Godwin. They tried to blow him out of the water, and they did. Financially. He just didn't accept it. But they went above and beyond time and again in their pursuit of Godwin, in part because not only is he a good player, although he's coming off an injury as well, but he's considered an unbelievable teammate and a great locker room guy and the kind of positive force that you would want to impact on your young quarterback. They went after DK Metcalf. They let him know, hey, would you sign with us long term if we traded for you? He told them no, which I think surprised him. I think that has been maybe one of the biggest surprises to Vrabel since he's taken the new job is their inability to convince guys to join them in New England. The DK Metcalf one specifically, somebody within the organization told me after he ended up signing with Pittsburgh. Man, must be a huge Mason Rudolph fan, I guess.

Paul Pabst (15:49)

Well, because it comes down to this, the reason why players wanted to go there was because Tom Brady could help you win a Super Bowl. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I got to play with Bill Belichick, coach. You know, it's about. I'm going to go there. I'll put up with this the Patriot way, but I get to play with Tom Brady and I might win a Super Bowl. I mean, that's. That's power. And you don't convince.

Phil Perry (16:16)

Yeah, they don't. And they're convinced that, you know, if they don't get to that level, which, you know, whoever gets to that level, but they're convinced, this regime is convinced that they will win eventually and they'll be able to convince more players than they have. Maybe not to the same degree they would have been able to with Belichick and Brady, but that that will change eventually. It's just, I think, really hard for them. It might be really hard for them to just get out of the blocks because as good as a coach as Mike Vrabel is, and I think he's a good coach, and I think Josh McDaniel is a great offensive coordinator. If you don't have the talent, it's really, really hard to win in this league. And they might have a great, a great quarterback. Drake May, I think, is uber talented, and we'll see what he develops into. But they need those pieces around in that receiver room if Diggs is going to be their best player. I think that's a. That is testament to what they have in that receiver room, which is probably not enough right now.

Paul Pabst (17:04)

Great to talk to you, Phil. Thanks for joining us and good luck with that first question to Stefan Diggs.

Phil Perry (17:10)

I'll let you know how it goes. Dan, Appreciate you having me.

Paul Pabst (17:12)

We'll be listening. We'll be listening. That's Phil Perry, the Patriots insider, NBC Sports Boston. Yeah, you got to ask the question. You got to get it out of the way. I don't know what he's going to tell you. I don't know if the NFL gets involved in this, do the Patriots. I mean, you need him. You know, there's that sliding scale of. All right, what do you. What are you accused of and how good are you? Well, we just signed you to that contract. Ah, it's not that big a deal, you know, no big deal. That, you know, those girls were just having fun. Okay. Gonna guess there might be just a little more to that, but we'll see. We'll see. Derek Henry will join us coming up. Also, thoughts and prayers to Seaton as I found out that somebody reached out to him and told him it's time for Seaton to quit smoking. What? Yeah. Yeah, somebody was worried about Seaton yesterday. And yes, look what smoking's done to you.

Dan Patrick (18:15)

I did. I got a message from a fella that said something along the lines of. I'm paraphrasing, but like, hey, man, I'm just really concerned about you. You look awful. Smoking is really taking a toll on you. And do yourself, do yourself a favor. Quit smoking so you can enjoy some years with your son. Which is a very nice message. He's right. Everyone should quit smoking. It's a bad habit. And that's. So I replied to him. And, you know, unfortunately for me, I quit smoking 16 years ago. And I think this is just the way I look. I don't know that I've ever been having? Not since I was in fourth grade have I been healthier than this right now. So last two years or so, I've been about as healthy as I've ever been in my life.

Paul Pabst (18:56)

Yeah, you stop smoking, stop drinking. And he's saying, man, look, you look awful. You know what I would do? I'd start smoking and drinking again.

Dan Patrick (19:06)

All right, back up. I got it. That's only two of the numerous things I've quit, Dan. I do think about picking them all back up. I could tell you.

Paul Pabst (19:15)

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Paul Pabst (24:51)

He says he's not sure what he's doing with this show when it ends, but he said maybe he could work at a McDonald's or fast food restaurant. We just heard from Matthew Hansen. He's the CEO of something in really important here. Let me see. He has stores in 32 states. Fast food restaurants. We have Taco Bell, Sonic, KFC and Arby's. Maybe Todd would like to work at Taco Bell, work the line there or maybe kfc.

Todd Fritz (25:28)

A lot of choices there.

Paul Pabst (25:29)

Yes, but Matthew Hansen, the coo and he reached out and said if things don't work out with you trying to crawl back to ESPN when this show ends, then maybe you could work at a fast food restaurant.

Todd Fritz (25:41)

I Can get yelled at.

Dan Patrick (25:42)

What are you doing?

Todd Fritz (25:43)

I've been waiting 20 minutes. All I had, Otis, was fries and some chicken. How long does it take?

Paul Pabst (25:47)

Yes.

Dan Patrick (25:48)

It is actually only fitting that given Todd's onion bagel history, that he actually has to work a drive through to listen to people lose their minds the way he did about not having an onion bagel.

Todd Fritz (25:58)

Does this look extra crispy to you? Sorry. I'll go talk to the guy.

Paul Pabst (26:03)

You did yell at a high school girl because they didn't have onion bagels.

Todd Fritz (26:08)

I didn't yell, but I was terse and I made it known that I was very disappointed and shocked that a popular bagel like an onion bagel. I didn't ask for a blueberry bagel.

Paul Pabst (26:16)

But she's not management. She's just a high school kid and you're yelling at her.

Todd Fritz (26:21)

I know, but I had some history with this place because I asked them to cut the bagel in half and they just kind of put a dent in it. And I have to peel it off and I'm trying to eat half of it while I'm driving, which I shouldn't be doing. And the cream cheese is like on my thumb and I'm tearing it apart because they didn't fully cut it through. And that bothered me. So I was already ready to jump at somebody.

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Dan Patrick (26:43)

Speaking of Dan and his.

Paul Pabst (26:44)

Speaking of Todd and his bagel story, I think that he should go work at a bagel restaurant for a day. We could follow him for one day, but I'm not sure if he's going to throw up to the job.

Dan Patrick (26:57)

Thank you.

Paul Pabst (26:57)

All right. Thank you, David. I don't think there's any way Todd could work at a fast food restaurant. You do, don't do well under pressure.

Todd Fritz (27:05)

I might not last like 10, 15 minutes.

Paul Pabst (27:08)

Chris in Scottsdale is. We'll wait for Derek Henry to join us. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. Listening to Barkley. He interviewed Barkley. You have him on often and usually the topic of Jordan comes up. And I just had an idea. I think it was 76 Jerry Lewis MDA Telethon. The iconic moment when Frank Sinatra came on stage. He brought Dean Martin on stage and he reunited Martin and Lewis. Oh, I remember. Even a tech 10 years old, I knew it was a big deal watching that. So I was thinking, what could rival that? You could play the role of Sinatra. You bring Barkley and Jordan together in some fashion over the next few months.

Phil Perry (27:48)

I know Barkley would be up for.

Paul Pabst (27:49)

It Jordan, that might be a tall task. Yep, I agree with that. Chris Charles was critical of Michael as an owner and Mike didn't take too kindly. And that was, that's a long time ago. But as you might have realized, Michael Jordan can hold a grudge. And that feels like that's going to. Unless something happens where they're brought together, if you know, somebody passes away, they happen to be in the same place. Maybe an accidental meeting there. But Michael doesn't do too much other than play golf and he's got his own golf course. So unless he's inviting Charles to play golf, they may not be crossing paths. All right, Derek Henry, he is the Baltimore Ravens star. Let me give the the full lineup here. He is a five time Pro Bowler. He is the 2020 NFL Offensive Player of the Year, two time rushing champ, three time rushing touchdown leader. Signed a two year $30 million deal in the off season, 25 million is guaranteed. All of a sudden the running backs are valued again. Derrick Henry joining us on the program. Good to talk to you again. You know, let me start. When you went to Alabama, you had one of the more decorated high school G resumes in history of any running back, maybe the greatest of any running back. Then you go to Alabama and you're like third or fourth on the depth chart. How do you, how do you process that from going from what you were in high school to, to a backups backup at Alabama?

Marvin Harrison (29:27)

Yeah, I think that was one of my first times that I actually like experienced adversity, which was really good for me coming into that program, you know, being highly recruited and having a stellar high school career and then coming to Alabama, getting humbled really, really quick. It was, it was really good for me and a great learning experience as well being so young because I graduated high school early in the road that spring and got to, got to participate in spring football and get a jump on that early and then then end up getting hurt. The last scrimmage practice right before the spring game fractured my fibula and tore all the ligaments in my ankle. So that year was a, a big adversity learning year for me.

Paul Pabst (30:26)

What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

Marvin Harrison (30:32)

I'll say probably my rookie year in, in camp I think we were, it might have been a running play kind of got lit up a little bit by Sean Spencer.

Paul Pabst (30:48)

Oh, what do you mean you kind of got lit up?

Marvin Harrison (30:50)

Like, like, like he hit me. I didn't fall but like kind of got knocked back a little bit and then I ended up finishing the play, but I got a, got a good pop out of it.

Paul Pabst (31:02)

This is in practice.

Marvin Harrison (31:04)

This is in practice. Yeah.

Paul Pabst (31:05)

Yeah. They're allowed to hit you that hard?

Marvin Harrison (31:07)

I mean, it's a thud, but like, we mean, we going full speed. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be live and a stout dude.

Paul Pabst (31:16)

You ever knock anybody out in practice?

Marvin Harrison (31:19)

No, I don't try to do anything like that.

Paul Pabst (31:21)

Well, they might run into you and knock themselves out.

Marvin Harrison (31:25)

Yeah, I mean, if, if the collision is that big, but try to. I try to be nice to my teammates.

Paul Pabst (31:30)

What do you do better now at 31 than you did at 21?

Marvin Harrison (31:36)

I think the game has just come with more experience. You know what to expect. Look at tendencies. I mean, as long as you study film, it'll make it a lot easier paying attention to the little things.

Paul Pabst (31:52)

But what are you looking for when you know you're getting the ball?

Marvin Harrison (31:55)

Yeah.

Paul Pabst (31:56)

Okay, so Lamar is calling the play and then all of a sudden. And then that two seconds, three seconds, whatever it is. What are you looking at?

Marvin Harrison (32:08)

Well, maybe I'm just looking at the defense, seeing how they align, trying to see what I can make happen. I mean, because they give you a picture, but in the snap, a finger that could change as soon as the ball is snapped. So I'll just try to try to see what the defense is giving us and not try to anticipate too much because you don't want to make a pre snap the decision, but just let it come naturally. But just really try to get a picture from the defense rather than be out there running.

Paul Pabst (32:39)

When did the shift go back to now? Running backs are valued with you and Saquon.

Marvin Harrison (32:47)

Yeah, like we had that big commotion about it like a year and a half ago when the market was really sad. You know, we, you know, want to do something about it. And I think the biggest solution was play better, show our value.

Paul Pabst (33:04)

But you had to get the opportunities to carry the ball, to run for 1900 yards and Saquon for 2000.

Marvin Harrison (33:13)

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, at the time I was still in Tennessee when that big commotion came about and he was in, in New York and a lot of guys were still on different teams. And next year some of us were free agents. We all got to a lot of different franchises and, you know, new opportunities, new beginnings, and it all worked out well for us. And the market is, you know, where we wanted to get it to for the future of guys that's coming out to us.

Paul Pabst (33:40)

We're talking to Derek Henry, signed a two year, 30 million dollar extension, 25 million guaranteed signing. When's the last time you spent a lot of money on something? Like you splurged? And he went, oh, boy.

Marvin Harrison (33:54)

Yeah, I mean, I don't try to splurge too much.

Paul Pabst (33:59)

Something crazy.

Marvin Harrison (34:00)

I know, I know, but everything. Everybody has something that they. What they really like. I mean, you like what you like. And I think my biggest thing right now is I'm into, like, watches. I love, I love watches.

Paul Pabst (34:12)

All right, what did you buy?

Marvin Harrison (34:17)

Recently purchased, was like, I think I got a, A platinum Daytona Rolex. Okay, that was a nice one. But. Yeah, yeah, you gotta, gotta treat yourself.

Paul Pabst (34:29)

Yeah, but, but if you're in New York City, you can buy those watches that look like real Rolexes and then you don't have to spend, you know, 50, 60 million or, you know, a thousand dollars on it. Just saying.

Marvin Harrison (34:41)

Yeah, I don't know about that.

Paul Pabst (34:44)

You can, you can, you can't. You can buy them, though. You should wear it in the game one time, you know, just.

Marvin Harrison (34:51)

Oh, no.

Paul Pabst (34:54)

It'd be great advertising there.

Dan Patrick (34:56)

I know.

Marvin Harrison (34:56)

It definitely will be, but I just can do it, though. Heck no.

Paul Pabst (35:00)

The bench press game. Let's go around the room. One rep. Derrick's best. All right, Todd. 444. 40. Seaton.

Dan Patrick (35:12)

455.

Paul Pabst (35:13)

Marvin.

Dan Patrick (35:14)

425.

Paul Pabst (35:15)

Paulie.

Dan Patrick (35:16)

425.

Paul Pabst (35:18)

I'm going to go 435. One rep.

Marvin Harrison (35:23)

I think you might be right, Dan. I think that's the last, last time I bench, like, heavy max, probably 435.

Paul Pabst (35:30)

Okay. But that would probably be up there among the top running backs, I'm guessing.

Marvin Harrison (35:36)

I don't know. I mean, some strong guys in the league, and it's been a while since I've did a max bench, but last time I did it, it was probably like 435. All right, dumbbells. Oh, dumbbell.

Paul Pabst (35:49)

What about 40 yard dash? What would you run it now?

Marvin Harrison (35:56)

Probably the same. When I, when I ran it during.

Paul Pabst (35:58)

The combine, what was that?

Marvin Harrison (36:01)

It was like 4, 4, 5. 4, 4, 5, 2.

Paul Pabst (36:04)

Okay. But you seem to be faster when you're carrying the football. There are certain guys who run faster when people are chasing them.

Marvin Harrison (36:13)

I feel that way. I don't know. You notice, you know, some people say you have like, testing speed, and then some people have football speed. And I definitely feel like that's the case for me. I feel like I'm more faster on the field.

Paul Pabst (36:27)

If I had you and Lamar race.

Marvin Harrison (36:31)

Oh, I like me.

Paul Pabst (36:35)

I'm gonna guess he likes him.

Marvin Harrison (36:37)

Yeah, for sure. He gonna tell you.

Paul Pabst (36:40)

Who did you have. Did you have a poster on your wall?

Marvin Harrison (36:43)

Growing up, I was a big Ladanian Thomason fan. But I like all running backs, though. But I was a big LT fan. I said I had his bobblehead, the jersey. I love lt. What?

Paul Pabst (36:54)

What? Have you talked to him?

Marvin Harrison (36:56)

Yeah, I thought LT plenty of times. Hey, ko. Did he spend some time with him as a little Nike event and Nike hill?

Paul Pabst (37:03)

Well, he runs differently than you do.

Marvin Harrison (37:06)

Way differently. And I thought I could run like him until I got older and the bigger I got, I was like, maybe.

Paul Pabst (37:11)

I'm not like, do you wish you were built like Ladanian? Than you're built like you?

Marvin Harrison (37:17)

No, I mean the Daniels and Ladanian. And I'm. I'm me. So God made me the way I need to be made.

Paul Pabst (37:23)

So I'm sure there are defenders that wish you were built like Ladanian then.

Marvin Harrison (37:28)

It's running now. I mean, you know, the size ain't matter. And it was. He was the truth.

Paul Pabst (37:35)

Great to talk to you. Congrats on the. The contract extension there.

Marvin Harrison (37:40)

Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.

Paul Pabst (37:42)

Can we get to 2000 yards this year? I mean, why stop at 1900?

Marvin Harrison (37:46)

I don't know. I know.

Paul Pabst (37:48)

How important was 2000 for you?

Marvin Harrison (37:51)

It wasn't really. It wasn't. Wasn't important at all. But, you know, when you get that close, everybody's like, hey, you couldn't get 2000 1900. I'm like, man, I don't know what in my cars last year.

Paul Pabst (38:04)

Well, nice to talk to you. We'll talk to you again. Thank you again, and congrats on the contract.

Marvin Harrison (38:10)

Appreciate it. Dan. Thank you for wearing that hoodie, man. Lime green. Brighten up my day.

Paul Pabst (38:14)

Appreciate it. Well, this is happy Gilbert. More 2. This is what Adam Sandler gave me.

Marvin Harrison (38:20)

Okay. That's one of my, you know, I said my favorite actor. So that's what's up.

Paul Pabst (38:24)

So that. That's the Happy Gilmore golf swing right there. That patch right there.

Marvin Harrison (38:30)

Hey, if you. Hey. Hey, can you do me a favor?

Paul Pabst (38:32)

Yeah.

Marvin Harrison (38:33)

If you ever see him again, tell him I'm a really big fan. I really love to meet him one day.

Paul Pabst (38:37)

Okay. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to text him today and ask if he'll send a video, please, and then I'm going to send it to the Ravens.

Marvin Harrison (38:48)

Okay, cool. I'm. I'm a huge fan.

Paul Pabst (38:50)

Okay. And if you get to 2,000 yards, I'll get you in a Sandler movie.

Marvin Harrison (38:56)

All Right. Cool. Say no more.

Paul Pabst (38:57)

Is that all right?

Marvin Harrison (38:58)

Remember that? Now you remember this? Remember that?

Paul Pabst (39:01)

No, no, I'll take care of my end of it.

Marvin Harrison (39:03)

Okay.

Paul Pabst (39:03)

I mean, mine's easy. Yeah, yours is hard. You got to get 2,000 yards. No pressure.

Marvin Harrison (39:10)

That is on. No pressure at all.

Paul Pabst (39:12)

All right. Thank you.

Marvin Harrison (39:14)

All right. See y' all.

Paul Pabst (39:16)

Okay.

Todd Fritz (39:17)

How about that?

Paul Pabst (39:18)

Yeah, it's not a big deal for me. I'll just reach out to say. You know what? Maybe during the commercial break, I'll. I'll reach out to Sandler, ask him if he'll send a video and have him say nice things about Derek Henry, and then I'll clue him in on If Henry gets 2,000 yards and he gets put in a Sandler movie.

Dan Patrick (39:36)

Yeah, Paul, his reaction was fantastic. He's like. He goes, if I get the 2000, you're gonna hold up your end of the bet.

Paul Pabst (39:42)

Yeah, yeah. He's actually saying something to the Ravens PR person. Like, hey, he's. You're a witness here. No, there's a. A few million people who are a witness to that, but say no more.

Todd Fritz (39:53)

It's on. Let's go.

Paul Pabst (39:54)

Yeah, I'll reach out to Sandler. Just say sandman. I need to have you do a video, and if Derek Henry gets 2, 000 yards, he gets in your next movie. Sure, we can do that. Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow right after this.

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Paul Pabst (44:07)

Robert Ori Oreo will join us on the program coming up tomorrow. Casey in LA joins us now. Hi, Casey. What's on your mind? Hey, what's happening, Dan? Are you, yesterday you guys had a little conversation about McCutcheon being a Hall of Famer because he's an MVP and the like. I'm gonna give you a Hall of Famer. He's a 10 time all star in the National League, a six time silver slugger, four time gold glove. Yeah. Steve Garvey. Steve Garvey's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, we've, we've brought that up before that. I mean, you look at the resume, I don't know if anybody's a 10 time All Star maybe who's not in the hall of Fame. But I agree with you, Casey. Yeah. And we weren't saying that Andrew McCutcheon was a Hall of Famer. He was the hall of Very good. That's, that's what we were talking about. But Steve Harvey, Steve Garvey and Steve Harvey. Did we find out when Celebrity Family Feud is going to be? We're supposed to find that out at some point here so we could tell the audience. I'm going to guess July. Yes, Todd, you want me to reach.

Todd Fritz (45:14)

Out or is that being a past or wait for them to.

Paul Pabst (45:16)

No, just say, hey, we're excited to share with our audience any indication of when that episode is going to air. When we go opposite the Rich Eisen.

Todd Fritz (45:26)

Show, we'll do that.

Paul Pabst (45:26)

And it's on a Sunday night, right?

Todd Fritz (45:29)

I believe so, but I'm not sure.

Paul Pabst (45:31)

Yeah, I think, I think this, it's a big deal that it's a big audience Sunday night, right? Marvin primetime or abc. Yeah. Yeah. This is a big deal.

Marvin Harrison (45:41)

We're part of the big Summer lineup.

Paul Pabst (45:48)

I'm glad we did it. I did have. When we were on stage with Steve Harvey, I'm thinking, oh, this, this is not going to be fun. This is going to go, you know, and poorly. And then I kept thinking that I sort of have the same feeling when I do this show, but then I always come back to the same thought content. If it's really bad, as long as it's funny, that's all I care about. And Marvin and Fritzi, I thought were really good. They're very entertaining, let me put it that way.

Todd Fritz (46:20)

And win or lose, we celebrate.

Paul Pabst (46:21)

Yes, we do. Win or lose, we celebrate. But we'll. We'll find that out and then we'll let you know when that episode will air. Let's see. So Derek Henry, I'll reach out to Sandler and I'll just say, hey, can you do a video? Say something nice about Derek Henry. And oh, by the way, if he gets 2,000 yards rushing, he's in your next movie. And I think that's fair. I mean, Sandler, you know, as long as he lives up to his end of this, putting him in a movie and he'll do the video and then Derek Henry just has to go out and rush for 2,000 yards. Yes. Yes, Paulie.

Dan Patrick (46:57)

I just love the idea of after week three, Derek Henry's got like 100, you know, 450 yards and someone goes, Are you on pace for 2,000? Well, that's the game plan. Because the goal is to get into a Sandler movie.

Paul Pabst (47:08)

No, no, it's not. Are you pace for 2000? Are you on pace for Sandler? Really? That's what it should be.

Dan Patrick (47:15)

Exactly right?

Paul Pabst (47:16)

Oh, this is what I was thinking with Saquon Barkley. You know how Jordan has his jumpman? Can Saquon Barkley create his own logo where he is jumping over the player backwards? Let's say he has merchandise. Could he do the Saquon, his version of the jump band, Just, you know, that's on the Madden cover. What do you think?

Dan Patrick (47:41)

Perfect. He's already known for it. It's already branded. The league is going to say, sorry, I think we own that.

Paul Pabst (47:47)

Oh. Oh, yeah. I didn't realize that. Catchphrases that I had at espn. ESPN owns those. That I wasn't allowed to take those with me. That, that I guess they owned intellectual property of everything that we said there. David in Anaheim. Hi, David. What's on your mind today? Hey, thanks. Longtime listener. Five, seven, soft 180. Hey, Steeler fan and a football Fan. Thanks a lot. What the hell was that? Like Derek Henry needs any more motivation to run all over the NFL. True. Yeah. I don't know if he needs any motivation. There he goes.

Dan Patrick (48:29)

What the hell?

Paul Pabst (48:30)

Yeah, sorry about that, David. You know, I didn't think of others here. I'm just thinking of Derek Henry. I mean, you imagine getting 1900 yards and you don't lead the NFL in rushing. 1900 yards. And Saquon. Oh, by the way, is that the greatest season a running back has ever turned in? If you look at now, not the most yards, but he. He won a Super bowl as well. So if you factor in now he. What did he have from line of scrimmage, like total yards? I don't. I don't know how many yards he has pass reception wise. Because I truly thought they were going to use him like the niners do Christian McCaffrey when they got him in Philadelphia, that he'd be a guy that I would try to get 60 or 70 catches out of. Yes, Paulie.

Dan Patrick (49:23)

Derek Henry ran for 1921 yards. He had only 19 catches for 190.

Paul Pabst (49:29)

No, Saquon Barkley.

Dan Patrick (49:30)

I'm sorry, I thought.

Paul Pabst (49:32)

No, Saquon Barkley. He's the one who had the 2,000 yards. And then I don't know how many catches he had. Yes, Marvin.

Dan Patrick (49:38)

Terrell Davis had 2,000 yards and he.

Marvin Harrison (49:40)

Won the Super Bowl.

Paul Pabst (49:41)

Okay. Yep.

Dan Patrick (49:42)

Oh, that's a pretty good call.

Paul Pabst (49:45)

Good call. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (49:47)

Paul Saquon had 2, 283 total yards last year. 2005 rushing and receiving. He had 33 catches for 278.

Paul Pabst (49:56)

Yeah, I got to do better than that. You got to do better.

Dan Patrick (49:59)

His rookie year, he had 91 receptions. Yeah.

Paul Pabst (50:01)

That's why I thought that. That he would be a great safety valve for Jalen Hurts.

Dan Patrick (50:05)

I thought he had a good season last year.

Paul Pabst (50:09)

He had a disappointing season.

Dan Patrick (50:10)

I mean, the jump was cool, but other than that, what did he really.

Paul Pabst (50:13)

Well, he got shut down in the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (50:15)

Overrated.

Paul Pabst (50:16)

Yeah.

Todd Fritz (50:17)

Step up your game, dude.

Paul Pabst (50:19)

Yeah. What's wrong with you? Final results of the poll.

Dan Patrick (50:21)

Question how overrated, Saquon?

Paul Pabst (50:25)

100%. What are we doing?

Dan Patrick (50:27)

Oh, my God. It's a joke.

Paul Pabst (50:28)

It's.

Dan Patrick (50:28)

We're just kidding.

Paul Pabst (50:29)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (50:29)

Gee whiz. Team metal drop off next season. Vikings ran away with that. Who's off to a worse start, Stefan Diggs or Bill Belichick? Bill ran away with that one, too. So a lot of big hangover from Jordan gate.

Paul Pabst (50:44)

This day in sports history.

Dan Patrick (50:46)

Paul, here's just one kind of sad 2003 Sammy Sosa of the Chicago Cubs broke a bat when he grounded out versus The Tampa Bay Devil Rays. The bat was corked and exploded all over the field. He said he grabbed the wrong bat that he used to put on the show during batting practice.

Paul Pabst (51:01)

Practice.

Todd Fritz (51:02)

We believe you. We believe you.

Paul Pabst (51:04)

Yes, we. Of course we do. Let me see anything else? Josh Gibson in 1937 hit a home run two feet below the rim of Yankee Stadium. 580ft.

Dan Patrick (51:20)

Dang.

Paul Pabst (51:22)

580Ft for Josh Gibson. All right, let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Todd, what'd you learn?

Todd Fritz (51:29)

Your best advice for an up and coming sports broadcaster? Do not put a time frame on success.

Dan Patrick (51:33)

Seaton Derek Henry has new motivation for this season.

Paul Pabst (51:36)

Marvin Fritz's highlight in 23 years was meeting Tim Tebow.

Todd Fritz (51:40)

Yeah, why did I come up with that?

Paul Pabst (51:42)

But it's a great anniversary, though. You and me, Paul.

Dan Patrick (51:45)

We have the Henry Sandler Tracker.

Paul Pabst (51:47)

What did I learn today? Todd?

Todd Fritz (51:49)

The last time Derek Henry did a max bench press, one rep, he put up 4, 3, 5lbs.

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