The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: Phil Perry & Derrick Henry

Release Date: June 3, 2025

Overview

In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick delves deep into the current turmoil surrounding the New England Patriots, featuring exclusive insights from Patriots Insider Phil Perry. The discussion primarily revolves around Stefan Diggs' recent controversy and its potential implications for the team. Additionally, the episode welcomes Baltimore Ravens' star Derrick Henry, who shares his journey, experiences, and perspectives on the evolving role of running backs in the NFL.

1. Patriots’ Turmoil and Stefan Diggs' Controversy

Phil Perry’s Insights on Stefan Diggs

The episode kicks off with Dan Patrick introducing Phil Perry, the Patriots Insider from NBC Sports Boston. The primary focus is Stefan Diggs' recent off-field incident that has cast a shadow over his standing with the team.

• Availability for Media Statements

  Phil Perry ([05:40]):
  “...we haven't been given any update, Dan, and thanks for having me... I think what's probably going to happen is during the mandatory minicamp portion of the off-season calendar here, that we'll have some availability to him.”

• Potential Impact on Team Dynamics

  Phil Perry ([06:25]):
  “...if you're going to start off on that kind of foot where he can tell if you are being dishonest with him... that doesn't bode well for that relationship moving forward.”

Dan and Phil Discuss Team’s Future Without Belichick

The conversation transitions to the broader changes within the Patriots organization following Bill Belichick's departure, highlighting Mike Vrabel's new leadership style and its similarities to Belichick's approach.

• Leadership Transition

  Phil Perry ([09:23]):
  “...with Vrabel, whether he wants to acknowledge it or not. And he, I think, would bristle at the notion that there would be any similarities between the two of them, but there are.”

• Media Focus on Bill Belichick

  Phil Perry ([11:01]):
  “...the Jordan Hudson stuff. I mean, we can't get enough up here, Dan. It's the story... people are fascinated to see what the football looks like... how Coach Belichick handles...”

Speculations on NFL Involvement

Phil Perry discusses the possibility of NFL intervention in the Diggs situation, emphasizing the challenges in proving any misconduct without concrete evidence.

• Regulatory Challenges

  Phil Perry ([07:45]):
  “...how would you prove anything? I mean, the video we have is what it is...”

2. Derrick Henry’s Journey and the Changing Landscape for Running Backs

Introduction of Derrick Henry

Transitioning from the Patriots' issues, the show welcomes Derrick Henry, the Baltimore Ravens' star running back, to discuss his illustrious career and the evolving value of running backs in the NFL.

• Henry’s Early Career Adversity

  Derrick Henry ([29:27]):
  “...I actually experienced adversity, which was really good for me coming into that program...”

From Underdog to Pro Bowler

Henry shares his progression from being a third or fourth-string running back at Alabama to becoming a five-time Pro Bowler and the 2020 NFL Offensive Player of the Year.

• Welcome to the NFL Moment

  Derrick Henry ([30:32]):
  “...a running play kind of got lit up a little bit by Sean Spencer... I didn't fall but got knocked back a little bit and then I got a good pop out of it.”

Training and Performance Insights

The conversation delves into Henry's training regimen, including his bench press statistics and approach to in-game decision-making.

• Training Regimen

  Derrick Henry ([35:30]):
  “I think that's the last time I bench, like, heavy max, probably 435.”

• In-Game Decision Making

  Henry ([32:08]):
  “...try to see what the defense is giving us and not try to anticipate too much because you don't want to make a pre-snap decision...”

The Resurgence of the Running Back Position

Henry discusses the recent market shift that has elevated the importance and valuation of running backs in the league.

• Market Shift

  Derrick Henry ([32:47]):
  “...the market was really sad... biggest solution was to play better, show our value.”

3. Interactive Segments and Host Banter

Humorous Interactions

Throughout the episode, Dan Patrick and co-host Paul Pabst engage in lighthearted banter, including discussions about personal habits and humorous bets related to Derrick Henry's performance.

• Smoking Quip

  Dan Patrick ([18:15]):
  “...I quit smoking 16 years ago. And I think this is just the way I look.”

• Sandler Movie Bet

  Paul Pabst ([36:31]):
  “...if he gets 2,000 yards rushing, he gets in your next movie.”

Audience Engagement and Polls

The hosts encourage listeners to participate in polls and share their thoughts on various sports topics, fostering an interactive community feel.

• Poll on Saquon Barkley’s Rating

  Dan Patrick ([50:21]):
  “Question: How overrated Saquon? Final results of the poll.”

4. Closing Highlights and Takeaways

Key Learnings from the Episode

As the episode winds down, the hosts recap the major discussions and humorous moments, reinforcing the key insights shared by Phil Perry and Derrick Henry.

• Takeaways

  • Todd Fritz ([51:29]): “Your best advice for an up and coming sports broadcaster? Do not put a time frame on success.”

  • Dan Patrick ([51:36]): “Seaton Derek Henry has new motivation for this season.”

  • Paul Pabst ([51:53]): “Marvin Fritz's highlight in 23 years was meeting Tim Tebow.”

Final Remarks

The show concludes with a nod to future episodes, upcoming guests, and continued engagement with the audience, ensuring listeners stay tuned for more in-depth sports discussions.

Notable Quotes

• Phil Perry on Stefan Diggs:
  “[...] we are going to apply as much pressure as humanly possible, Dan, and we're going to make sure we get him in front of a microphone.” ([05:40])

• Derrick Henry on Adversity:
  “...it was really good for me and a great learning experience...” ([29:27])

• Phil Perry on Patriots’ Leadership:
  “...Mike Vrabel will be much more of a players coach...” ([09:23])

• Dan Patrick on Smoking:
  “...I quit smoking 16 years ago...the last two years or so, I’ve been about as healthy as I’ve ever been in my life.” ([18:56])

Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive look into the New England Patriots' internal challenges and star player Stefan Diggs' predicament through Phil Perry's expert analysis. Additionally, Derrick Henry provides an inspiring narrative of resilience and excellence, shedding light on the renewed appreciation for running backs in today's NFL. The blend of serious sports analysis with playful host interactions ensures a balanced and captivating listening experience for fans.