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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
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Dan Patrick
Million million doll grand prize winner.
Paulie
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
That. Who does Clemson think they.
Dan Patrick
Are?
Paulie
Clemson? They said that like they were Ohio State or.
Dan Patrick
Alabama. Well, for a while they were, but that was a few years ago.
Paulie
Yes. Paul, do you almost reward Clemson for being patient because Dabbles had two down seasons out of.
Dan Patrick
15? Yeah. But they've been the last.
Paulie
Two. Two of the last three have been.
Dan Patrick
Down.
Paulie
Yeah. And I don't know, maybe I respect them for being.
Dan Patrick
Patient. Well, who are you.
Paulie
Getting? Who's.
Dan Patrick
Better? Yeah, that really, that's what it comes down to. And I don't know if you have somebody where you go, boy, that's the next guy that you're going to get because Lane Kiffin's already at lsu. It always feels like, man, Alabama Opens up. That would have been great for Lane Kiffin if Alabama opened up. I wonder if Dabo Sweeney would say, you know what? Maybe you don't care about me. I'll go to Alabama because I know what that landscape is all about. But, you know, you see that Arch Manning is coming back, and I think that's really good. Lenore Sellers at South Carolina is coming back. I think that that makes a lot of sense. Now. It's easy for me to say when I'm watching these kids because it always feels like you could use a little more seasoning there. And scouts want to have more than 30 starts. Ideally, they'd like to have more than 35 starts. That's that. That's their sweet spot of, okay, maybe around 30, but I'd like to have a little bit more than that. And now you're seeing these quarterbacks transferring. You know, you got Aiden Chiles leaving Michigan State, Sam Levitt moving on from Arizona State. DJ Lagway, he's leaving Florida. Dylan Raiola, he's saying goodbye to Nebraska. And we've seen what's happened with these, what last four Heisman winners, They're all transfers. So you might go a couple of years. You. Fernando Mendoza took Cal to two bowl games, I believe, and then he transferred to Indiana. He was already a good quarterback. And you could have one of these quarterbacks who's transferred who might end up winning a Heisman Trophy, because that seems to be almost the blueprint now of I'm going to play someplace and then I'm going to go someplace. And Jaden Daniels did this at lsu, and you're going to get a big pay raise. So you prove yourself. We're going to give you a big pay raise now you got a chance to play for, you know, nice, shiny trophies. Yeah.
Paulie
Paulie. Arch Manning, though, is such an anomaly because in this down year for a quarterback draft based off his reputation, he would be a top 10 pick easily. And he doesn't need the money. Like, he's one of the few quarterbacks in college football history that the NIL wouldn't keep up with the family.
Dan Patrick
Money. But he needs to.
Paulie
Play. Yes. He's only got. He's got less than.
Dan Patrick
15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a. And even then, he's going to give you close to 30 starts when it's all said and done. He didn't play against great high school competition, but he does have the athleticism. He does have that name. And you're on a big stage. And look, you start out the season against Ohio State. And that's. That's a defense that's probably going to have maybe five starters in the first round. Four or five starters. And he didn't play well. He looked overwhelmed, but we saw him at the end of the year. That's why I'm looking forward to seeing him play in the bowl game. I just. The more he plays, the more it becomes apparent that there are a lot of great traits there. But still, I. I would not be taking him early if I had a. If I had a top 10 draft pick, I would not be taking him until I saw a little bit more. And look, maybe you pass up a generational talent, but I got to see more. I think that's the problem. Teams, you get into this and you go, yeah, Zach Wilson. Yeah, let's take him. How many starts? I don't know, 14. That. That's where it's dangerous, you know, Trey Lance, I don't know. He looked really good. That one year. Need to see a little bit more. Yeah.
Paulie
Paulie. And then a guy like Bo Nix. 61 starts in college and not just not incarnate word. Auburn in.
Dan Patrick
Oregon. Yes. And Jaden Daniels had over 50 starts. That's what you need to see, because I need to see the good and the bad and the ugly. If you have one magical year at North Dakota State. Ah, man, I gotta see more than that. If you had one great year at North Carolina, I gotta see more than that. But these guys love potential. But potential gets you fired. That's why I would always be looking at taking a quarterback in the transfer portal. If I was a head coach now, I would always look at somebody. Give me Somebody who's 21, maybe 22, spent a couple of years, and now I get more of a finished product, plug and play, you know. Next thing you know, you got a magical season going on. And that's what's happened in college football. Alrighty. Robert. In Arizona. Hey, Robert, what's on your mind? Hey, thanks for taking my call, Dan. 165 and 6 foot tall. Perfect. Hey, I'm wondering if you spend $8 billion on a team and you don't put any money into the facility and they play outside on the frozen.
Paulie
Turf. I've only been on one playing.
Dan Patrick
Service, and that was in Arizona at the.
Paulie
Cardinals. And that is a lush playing.
Dan Patrick
Service. Yeah, I'll second that. Beautiful. Yeah.
Paulie
Paul. Team.
Dan Patrick
Stinks. Fields. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Paulie
Yeah. We don't know how to play football.
Dan Patrick
If. If it was the other way around, where the field wasn't good, but our team.
Paulie
Was. We're all.
Dan Patrick
Healthy. You might take.
Paulie
That. Just not good at.
Dan Patrick
Football. I still was amazed when I went to Lambeau. This is when Farve was still playing. And I went there and it was a New Year's Day game against Seattle. And I got on the field and all of a sudden I saw that the dirt was painted and I go, this is Lambo. Lambo. And that's when Hasselbeck was out there. He was the quarterback for Seattle. And I was in the end zone and he walked over. I was with my son who's a Packers fan, and he walks over and he goes, oh, so much for objective reporting or something like that. I go, no, he's the Packer fan. I'm not. And he goes, look at this. Looks good on tv, doesn't he? He's pointing to the field. But it was painted. The dirt was painted. I go, man, okay. There's still Lambo, though. Beautiful. Seaton poll question for the final hour. What are we gonna go with? Yeah, we got a new one here from Paul. If you were the top quarterback coming out of college and you could play for one of these teams, all right, those teams would be. Paul, do you want to help.
Paulie
Out? That would be the draft order right now. The Las Vegas Raiders had this 2 pick. The Cleveland Browns had the 4 pick and the jets had the 5 pick as of right now. And those are teams that are likely to take a.
Dan Patrick
Quarterback. Do we know for sure that the Giants would not take a.
Paulie
Quarterback right now? The Giants, due to tiebreaker with strength of schedule, have the number one pick of the.
Dan Patrick
Draft. Yes. So you're going to need a new coach. I think they're keeping the gm. It's a foregone conclusion that the Giants are going to either pass that up, trade that pick, and it's Fernando.
Paulie
Mendoza. When darts playing, they love them and the fans love them whilst.
Dan Patrick
Playing. Yeah, I just, I don't. I don't like the way this could.
Paulie
End. Vegas is the 2 pick. Tennessee as the third pick. Browns have four and the Browns have two picks in the first.
Dan Patrick
Round. Tennessee's not taking a quarterback. Giants aren't taking. Raiders are taking a quarterback. Jets are taking a quarterback. Is New Orleans going to take a.
Paulie
Quarterback? They're at.
Dan Patrick
7. Chuck has played and quietly played pretty well for them. Quietly. I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback, but I mean, he was his second round draft pick. He. He should be good. Yeah.
Paulie
Paulie. The Arizona Cardinals had the sixth.
Dan Patrick
Pick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Paulie
Yeah. They're taking.
Dan Patrick
One. Yes, yes, yes.
Paulie
Yeah. Money in that.
Dan Patrick
Position. I think Kyler Murray's done. I think he's. He's.
Paulie
Elsewhere.
Dan Patrick
Jettisoned. I think he'll be jettisoned. He might be Jets.
Paulie
Listen. Oh, we didn't. Who wrote that bitch T.
Dan Patrick
Shirt. Thank you.
Paulie
Jet. Okay, if somehow Fernando Mendoza had the three hats thing based off these situations. Raiders, Browns, jets, and you have to pick one. You cannot go back to.
Dan Patrick
India. I would go to the Raiders. That's 63% of the audience say the Raiders. I would go to the Raiders because half my games are indoors. I'm gonna start there. I got Brock Bowers and I got Ashton Genty and I still got a high end, Max Crosby. Now, you need a lot more than that. You need some linemen as well. But I would probably like. You don't want to go to the Jets. I mean, he seems like a really nice guy. Like, there's certain guys where you go, you know, he seems like a nice guy. Don't do that to him. Go to the Jets. That's. I still think Kyler Murray to the Jets. The risk and the reward, I think would be.
Paulie
Fascinating. I'm sure the media would be.
Dan Patrick
Understanding. Yeah, they would. See, that's another thing. Do I want to go to the Browns and is sure Sanders going to be on the roster? If he's on the roster, then it's going to be a mess. You can't. You can't go to the Browns if Shador is not your starting quarterback. Yes. You don't want to go to the Browns before Shador and all of them got there. Nobody's wanted to go to the Browns for 20 years. Brady Quinn wanted to grow to the Browns.
Paulie
Yeah. Paulie, the Browns right now have a really good defense, at least ranked really good. And they've also got the 4th pick of the draft and the 28th pick of the draft. They have a lot of draft capital this year. Build a team, not a quarterback. Build a.
Dan Patrick
Team. Okay, but what are you going to do with the quarterbacking.
Paulie
Position? Build a team. Keep Shador for a year and then reevaluate. But you didn't spend it on another.
Dan Patrick
Quarterback. Yeah, but let's say Fernando Mendoza is there. Do you pass up Fernando Mendoza? Now, I don't think he's a generational talent, but I do think that, you know, he's going to get an opportunity to prove that he's a franchise quarterback and maybe a safe pick for them. Yes, Marvin, but if you're The.
Paulie
Jets. Why would you want Kyler Murray? And if you're Kyle Murray, why would you want to play for the.
Dan Patrick
Jets? Kyler Murray may not have many options.
Paulie
Here. If one of them is another team, I'm going to another.
Dan Patrick
Team. Okay, how about the Raiders? Could you see Kyler Murray with the Raiders? Okay, I.
Paulie
Know. How about the Mets? Not the Jets? Like they're going through this now with Justin.
Dan Patrick
Fields? Talented quarterback that can run. Yeah, but Connor Murray's a better.
Paulie
Quarterback.
Dan Patrick
Barely. Yeah, he's a better.
Paulie
Passer.
Dan Patrick
Barely. No, he's. He's a better. He's a better quarterback. Yeah, he.
Paulie
Is. Oh, no, no, you're right, but I just said barely. He's not, you know, Mahomes or.
Dan Patrick
Josh Allen or anything like that. He's a great thrower of the football. He's got a great arm. He's athletic. He just. He has to want to play football. He wants to want to be.
Paulie
Great. You think that's going to.
Dan Patrick
Work? I don't play for the Jets. I don't know. I mean, that's a wake up call when the Cardinals, who need help every year, don't want you. You're a healthy scratch.
Paulie
Yes. Todd, if Kyler Murray is distracted by video games and doesn't like to put in a lot of work, what's going to happen in Sin City?
Dan Patrick
Exactly. Can see him there. The one armed bandits there. I just like the lights. I just like the pretty lights and the noises. Okay, so the Giants know. Titans know. Browns yes. Ish. Jets yes. Raiders yes. Cardinals yes. But I don't know if you have four quarterbacks who were top 10 talents. That's the problem. I don't want you to reach. Yes.
Paulie
Mark. You took the words out of my mouth. I was going to say that exact same thing word for.
Dan Patrick
Word. I don't believe.
Paulie
You. Kind of word for.
Dan Patrick
Word. Word for word. Word up. Whatever happened to word.
Paulie
Up? Was that cameo at the.
Dan Patrick
Band? Sure was. No, but then it was also an expression. Be like word. Like somebody would agree with you. And they go word it more.
Paulie
Quickly from word up to just.
Dan Patrick
Word. Yeah.
Paulie
Right. Checking my notes. Word or word might be really like. Oh, you. You wouldn't believe what happened last.
Dan Patrick
Night. X, Y and Z. Yes.
Paulie
Todd. Then it was word to your.
Dan Patrick
Mother with an A on the end to your.
Paulie
Mother. Word.
Dan Patrick
Up. Word. Yeah, a word. Dear.
Paulie
Mother.
Dan Patrick
Mother. Like Marvin was talking to me about 50. He was saying 50 and I. This documentary that he's doing on P. Diddy. I go, it's fitty. Marvin.
Paulie
Fitty. That's not 50 cents. I'm G. Just call him.
Dan Patrick
Curtis. Yeah, that's. Then he came back with Curtis. I go, okay, I'll give that one.
Paulie
Too. If it's 50.
Dan Patrick
Cent. Yeah. Is it plural? Is it 50 cents like a 50 cent.
Paulie
Piece? Excuse me. Half.
Dan Patrick
Dooll. Yeah. I don't know how we got here. Emmy coming our way. Let's go. All right, word up. Yeah. Take a break. They call him Big Mike. Big Mike Golick will join us next year on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino ENRICH Live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search kovino and rich fsr on YouTube again. Go to YouTube. Search covino enrich fsr. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe. Hit that thumbs up icon and comment.
Paulie
Away. What a matchup we got.
Dan Patrick
Y'.
Paulie
All. This is that classic hbcuva nonstop action. The bed is rocking and the crowd. Crowd lick, chant, tackle drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride.
Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
Agent. Okta secures AI More phone calls coming up on this Tuesday. Mike Golick Sr. Co host of Golick and Golic on FanDuel Sports Network. He was well, he was on the call for the Dolphins Steelers Monday night pregame halftime show on Westwood One Radio and good to see you again buddy. Explain the Dolphins situation to me moving forward into next.
Paulie
Season. Well obviously you know you're talking about the quarterback. What do you do with tua? We we know that was a big cat dead money cap hit with Russell Wilson when he left Denver. I believe the post June 1 cut for next year. If they were to go down that road, the dead money would be like $67 million. Where his cap hit if he's on the team is $55 million. So you know the question will be have you seen enough of him? Are you willing to start over? And if you start over, do you start over with a draft pick or do you start over with a veteran? And are you going to be much better with with a veteran or do you just kind of retool everything and you're sitting there at 6 and 8. You'll probably finish just a little under.500. You're not going to have a really high pick. And oh by the way, the this incredible quarterback class coming out of college that we all thought before the season is really not an incredible quarterback class coming out at the end of the season. So I Mike McDaniel may may have saved may have saved his job which seems weird because we thought he was gone, but he, he may still be.
Dan Patrick
Around. How would you describe the Steelers playoff potential as far as getting in? What can they do when they get.
Paulie
In? I. Dan, I don't think they can do much. I really don't. This Pittsburgh has normally been a running team and a defensive team. Now they ran it pretty well last night. Gainwell and Warren basically split carries, I think 13 and 12. So that was good. Defensively they haven't been what they normally have been. And as far as Aaron, Aaron was incredibly effective last night, 23 or 27. But most of those passes were to gain well, which were short passes. When he wanted to unleash one, he certainly did a couple of times for sure. But I don't think now the one thing that's in their favor is you don't have a dominant Kansas City team in the playoffs. You don't have a just below Kansas City dominant Buffalo Bills team this year. Buffalo will get in to the playoffs. But is it the dominant Buffalo team, the team that's been given up a lot of run rushing yards on defense? So I look at all the division leaders and I could find a flaw in all of them where it wouldn't surprise me if they got knocked.
Dan Patrick
Off. Can Mike Tomlin survive another one and done in the.
Paulie
Playoffs? You know, I think if you step back and look at it, if you get past the losing in the first round of the playoffs and having just good enough record to not pick late in the first round or not pick early in the first round, I would say this. What, what are you going to get out there that's better? What, what, what, what are, what are you going to get that's going to make them win two more playoff games? I remember you and you remember too, Dan. Marty Schottenheimer went to a couple of ASC title games in Cleveland to didn't get him past the point and got fired. Well, where's Cleveland been? I mean it's, it's not like they've, they've found somebody to ride past that. So I think we, we kind of knee jerk though. This knee jerk has been for a couple of years with a Mike Tomlin. But my thought is when you settle down and you think about it, you're like who are we going to get that's better? Are we going to get a retread that we know or a young new first time head coach that maybe injects something new into the.
Dan Patrick
Team? But is this sort of like Penn State though? Like it's a cautionary tale.
Paulie
Of.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Like they waited over 50 days for his repl. They were quick to get rid of him, that decision. But then you didn't exactly have the treasure trove of candidates that you thought you would. Now, the Steelers would be attractive because of the stability there. You know, Penn State, Matt Campbell, and while he's really good, he doesn't have a good record against, you know, top 10 opponents.
Paulie
Either. No, I mean, all the. I mean, there was really the one bell of the ball choice this year, and that was Lane Kiffin. Right. Somer. All who some raw went to Florida was certainly up there as well. And a lot of coaches change hands. But look at.
Dan Patrick
It.
Paulie
What. What do you look at when you go to a new team? You look at obviously ownership. Then you look at the quarterback situation. What. What's Overall, the Steelers are a better situation than. But are they better than the Giants? The Giants have a quarterback the Steelers.
Dan Patrick
Don'T. Does Rogers play next.
Paulie
Year? Pardon.
Dan Patrick
Me? Rogers play next year. In your.
Paulie
Opinion? Boy, oh boy. It seems like. It seems like he's had a really good experience with Pittsburgh. But again, if they don't go that far this year, what's the expectation that they're going to go far next year? Eventually, whether it's this year or next year, they have to start over a quarterback yet again. And they haven't found their guy to take them anywhere since Ben Roethlisberger, so. And it's normally a team that's built on defense and the run game anyway, but they still haven't been able to find a.
Dan Patrick
Quarterback. Let's look at the draft. Right now, the Giants have the number one pick. Are you confident that they would not be interested in Fernando.
Paulie
Mendoza? No, they will not. They. They. Yeah. Jackson.
Dan Patrick
Dart. They found their quarterback in Jackson.
Paulie
Dart.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Paulie
Okay.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. The Raiders, Jets, Cardinals, Cleveland. Quarterback. Quarterback. Quarterback. Quarterback.
Paulie
Yeah. I would say yes. But how many top quarterbacks are available? Now we know the quarterback position gets overvalued. So you have Fernando Mendoza. You have Dante Moore from Oregon, who, by the way, can go back to college. You have Ty Simpson, who can go back to college as well. In most of the mock drafts I've seen, there have been three quarterbacks taken. Ty Simpson taken later in the first round. So while the top of the draft, you're going to have a number of teams that need a quarterback as a quarterback. Worth a number. Is there a third quarterback out there in college that's worth a number four, number five pick? That's going to be the question we thought this was going to be an unbelievable class, but it turns out it maybe isn't. And Adante Moore can go back to school even though in Oregon he did lose his offensive.
Dan Patrick
Coordinator. Talking to Mike Golick Senior Golic and Golic on FanDuel Sports Network every weekday from 3:30 to 5:30 Eastern. We spent a lot of time talking about turf, natural turf, artificial turf, the number of ACLs, the fact you have a couple of marquee guys getting hurt. Michael Parsons non contact what was the worst playing surface? I probably know this. It was Philadelphia by.
Paulie
Far. It was, it was like playing on a a 20 year old carpet over concrete except where the pitcher's mound was for the Phillies and it was.
Dan Patrick
Metal. But could you complain? Could players complain to ownership? Can we make this.
Paulie
Better? There was every Dan, every visiting team filed a grievance with the NFL before their game in Philadelphia. Never went anywhere. But I mean remember Wendell Davis from the Chicago Bears went up for a deep ball, came down, blew out both Patel attendants just on the turf. You could literally stand on that turf, not play a down in the game, stand on the turf and your back would be just so hurt, so sore after the game. It was by far the worst turf. I mean they're playing on a cushion of the gods today compared to what we played on. But I get their, their, their thoughts that if you're getting a lot of non contact, I don't care what kind of artificial turf it is. Is that bad for the player and is it enough for the owners? Because we already know the owners have come out with their own report that kind of disputes the players report the NFLPA report of non contact injury. So it doesn't sound like the owners want to go change in anytime.
Dan Patrick
Soon. How about we bring the owners out and somebody tackles them and let them land on the.
Paulie
Field. The owners couldn't last that long out on the field that that would be a good test for them though they'd be unconscious after taking one hit. We'd have to use the smelling salts, which are now illegal to wake them.
Dan Patrick
Up. Yeah, it's short sighted but it's all about money and if you don't want to spend the money and I this is where the it feels like the commissioner should say let's protect these players. If we're going to add an 18th game, shouldn't that be in there? That let's do all we can do to protect them from themselves with you know, the blue tent and concussions and all of that. But the playing surface, I Mean, go Back to when RG3 got hurt, Mike. Yeah, my backyard looks better than.
Paulie
That. No, listen, I agree. And listen, there's natural graphs, natural grass surfaces that are horrible as well. I mean you have, I think in Vegas and in Arizona. I know in Arizona, where they roll in the grass for the game, that seems to be one of the best choices right now. You're only using the grass for a football game, nothing else to make your extra money. And going back to what you said about Roger Goodell and the commissioner, well, at the end of the day, who does the commissioner work for? Works for the owners. So I don't know if he'll be able to, he would be able to make a decision like.
Dan Patrick
That. Is there a gruff, Is there a great team in the.
Paulie
NFL? If push came to shove and you made me name one, I would say the Rams. I would say the Rams are the most complete team in the NFL. Close to the great team, but the most complete team. Now losing Devonte Adams, we'll see how long he's out with a hammy could hurt them. But I could make a case for every leading division team in the AFC to get knocked off. Right. I was part of the me and Ryan Radke for us with one called the Washington hosting the Denver game. Washington had a wide open receiver on a two point conversion to win that game with a backup quarter quarterback. But Nick Bonito blocked the ball. So they actually won it 27, 26. So I mean they're, they're winning one score games. Kind of like Kansas City did last year. You're on the verge in the playoffs, one doesn't go your way, you're all of a sudden you're going.
Dan Patrick
Home. Yeah. And we saw what happened with Kansas City. You know these teams that have these one, you know, all these one possession games, one score games. I always say I go against them the following year because you can't, it's not sustainable. I mean the Chiefs were I think 12 and oh in one score games last year. I think they were one in seven so far this.
Paulie
Year. Yeah, it's that and it's, it's turnovers. Like turnovers now like the, the Chicago Bears. It's ridiculous. They're plus 20 and they have 30 takeaways, 21 interceptions, nine fumble recoveries. I would not bank on that happening next.
Dan Patrick
Year. Yeah.
Paulie
Right. So I, I put that and one score games kind of in the same box of you cannot count on that year to.
Dan Patrick
Year. Great to chat with you. My best of the family. Happy holidays.
Paulie
There. You too.
Dan Patrick
Dan. Thank you, Mike. That's big Mike Golick. You can catch him every weekday from 5 3:30 to 5:30pm with Mike Jr. A couple of phone calls in here. Louis in Venice. Hey.
Paulie
Lewis. Hey.
Dan Patrick
D.P. first time, long time. Six two dad by 280. Yeah. I've always thought, thought this and.
Paulie
It just confuses me to, to think.
Dan Patrick
Like, why don't we just go to dome stadiums with natural grass now? Because I think we're past the nostalgia of, you know, playing at Lambeau Field and Chicago in December, you know, because it'll make life easier for, for.
Paulie
Both the fan and the.
Dan Patrick
Players. Yeah, but Buffalo doesn't want a dome stadium. Green Bay wouldn't want a dome stadium. Minnesota did adopt one, but if Bud Grant was still the head coach, they wouldn't have done that. Chicago, I, if they moved the suburbs, they might. Is Cleveland going to build a dome state? I'm with you. I mean it does create a better experience for the fans. Climate controlled. It's better for the players. But we do like to see the elements. And December, we like seeing snow or you know, you like to see something different. But if, if they could all afford dome stadiums, great. It would certainly make it a lot easier for players and also for the fans in that experience. Ty in Ohio. Hi, Ty. Hey.
Paulie
Dan. How are you guys.
Dan Patrick
Doing? Happy holidays to you in the. Dan, that's 6 foot solid 180. Hey, so do you think with all the field related injuries, do you think the NFL and the NFLPA are going to rethink adding an 18th regular.
Paulie
Season game down the.
Dan Patrick
Road? My thought process is if the owners want to fork out the money to fix the fields, why would the.
Paulie
Players want to make more.
Dan Patrick
Money? They want to make more money. We're, we're heading towards 18 games. Absolutely. Players are going to get another paycheck a lot of times. And I talked to two former players and I said, what did you. This was two, two and a half weeks ago. And I said, what do you think about an 18 game? And they say we never think we're going to be the one who gets injured. You can't go out there thinking add another 18th, you know, an 18th game, another game, I'm going to run my risk even higher of getting hurt. They don't think that way because you can't think that way. All you think is another game, another paycheck. Marcus in Jacksonville. Hi, Marcus. Good morning.
Paulie
Dan. I've got a pie to the.
Dan Patrick
Face bet for Fritzi here. The Jacksonville Jaguars My Jacksonville Jaguars are going into Denver to beat the Broncos ass on Sunday. Wow. I'm gonna spot him. I'm gonna spot him 13 points.
Paulie
Because we're winning by at least two.
Dan Patrick
Touchdowns and we're gonna win the Super Bowl. I'll take it off here.
Paulie
Wow. He's got the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns in.
Dan Patrick
Denver. He's given you 13.
Paulie
Points. I would have probably taken that as a straight up win for Denver. So I will totally go in with.
Dan Patrick
That. Yeah, I can't blame you. I'm looking at super bowl odds now. Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Bills, Texans, Eagles, Patriots, Packers, Jags aren't even on here. They're not in the top eight right now with super bowl odds. That's a, that was a bold proclamation there, Billy in New Orleans. Hi, Billy. What's on your mind? Happy Hanukkah.
Paulie
Fritzi. Dan, I have two comments, if you'll indulge.
Dan Patrick
Me. The first comment and main reason I called is in reference to the plain surface study being conducted by the NFL. I'm sure they're comparing injury prevalence by surface, but I wonder, and I highly doubt by the way, is, are they also going to consider the long term health risks of turf? There have been several studies that reference the carcinogens and possible effects of TIRF on long term health. I know the NFL often listens to your show, so I just wanted to point this out to Park Avenue and this is a little bit lighter. I think Paulie's brought this up before and of all years, I think this would be a very interesting topic or proposal. And I know it'll never happen, but if the NFL play teams could draft, like Arch Manning, for example, this year, knowing he's going back to Texas, but then next year he's on their team. I just, I feel like that would make a very interesting draft. Just like the Celtics did with Larry Bird. They, they drafted him. He was draft eligible. And Red Arbok said, you know what? We're going to draft Larry.
Paulie
Bird.
Dan Patrick
Jeez. And at the time, people like, wait, he's not even going to be able to play for you. And he was like, oh, we'll wait. Red Arbok. He was playing chess. Everybody played checkers, man. Yeah.
Paulie
Pulling. Yeah. That was the 1978 NBA Draft. Like you said, Larry Bird was not household name yet. They hadn't played Magic Johnson in the final. The people taking over him in the 78 draft. Michael Thompson, Phil Ford, Ricky Roby, Michael Ray Richardson, Purvis Short, then Larry Birds of the.
Dan Patrick
Celtics.
Paulie
Yeah, you know, you're great when.
Dan Patrick
We'Re taking the guy, we're going to.
Paulie
Wait, won't play for.
Dan Patrick
Us. Yeah, we're going to wait. I'm going to wait for.
Paulie
You. All.
Dan Patrick
Timer. Yeah. The number of former players who have stories about Larry Bird. Of all the players who played in the history of the sport, more players, former players have a story about Larry Bird than anybody else. Because most players will say, you know, Mike was unbelievable. You know, Mike put up 58. You know, Bird was, I'm going to put up 45, and I'm going to tell you where I'm going to do it. But they all have a story. I don't care who it is. They. If somebody crossed his path and had a story. I still love the Casey Jones story when he, he comes up to Larry and he goes, larry, there's been a threat on your life if you play in this game. And Larry said to Casey Jones, I'm going to play. And then Casey Jones said, I told Larry, make sure you stay away from the huddle just in case somebody shoots you. And Larry went right to the huddle and put his arms around Casey Jones. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What's in store tomorrow? What we learned this day in sports history. After this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen.
Paulie
Live. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Nonstop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance, echo drum beatin everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right.
Dan Patrick
There.
Paulie
Mmm. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride.
Dan Patrick
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Paulie
IBM. Thursday Night Football is on, and.
Dan Patrick
It'S only on prime video. This week, the NFC west grabs a spotlight as the Rams visit the Seahawks coverage begins at 7pm Eastern. We with TNF tonight presented by Verizon. It's Rams Seahawks Thursday at 7pm Eastern. And don't miss Broncos Chiefs on Christmas night Only on Prime Video. Not a Prime member. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Apple Card members can earn unlimited daily cash back on everyday purchases wherever they shop. This means you could be earning daily cash on just about anything, like a slice of pizza from your local pizza place or a latte from the corner coffee shop. Apply for Apple Card in the Wallet app to see your credit limit offer in minutes subject to credit approval. Apple Card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch terms.
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Agent. Okta secures AI we had Joe Thomas on last hour. Former Browns offensive lineman, now a Hall of Famer, he took part in 10,715 offensive snaps in his career. He was called for holding 20 times. Stat of the day, Stat of the day, of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that one. Stat of the day. Alrighty. Some basketball last night. Cooper flag put up 42. Mavs lost in overtime to the Jazz. That's the most points by an 18 year old surpassing LeBron James. He had 37. It also ties Mark Aguirre for most points by rookie in Mav's history. Nicola Jokic. 39, 15 and 10. That's 12 triple doubles this season. Twice as many as the closest player, Jaylen Johnson. Yeah, Joker. I'm surprised when he doesn't have a triple double. Wemby talked about Joker is the best offensive player but not the best player. He would have put Giannis in there over him. I I believe he was talking about centers and all around player offensively, defensively. He put Giannis in there over.
Paulie
Joker. Yes, Marvin, I'm gonna feel terrible when Joker doesn't win MVP this year because The Thunder wins 76.
Dan Patrick
Games. Yeah, that's the only thing that's.
Paulie
Going to stop him how good the Thunder.
Dan Patrick
Do. Yes, Yes. I just want to know what OKC is going to do in the draft with all those draft picks and unless they're allowed to extend their bench to 20 players, I mean, they're going to. They're going to have a treasure trove of young talent there. Everybody will be under the age of 25. Yes, Paulie, Thunder have lost one in a.
Paulie
Row. Dan, your.
Dan Patrick
Thoughts? I'm shocked. I'm looking at some point spreads here. Let me see. The Rams getting one and a half at Seattle. I don't think they're going to have Devonte Adams in that game. Packers minus one and a half at the Bears. Interesting. Bucks minus three at the Panthers. See, that's one of those games in the NFC south where then the Panthers win the game as the underdogs. Chargers getting one and a half at the Cowboys. Chiefs Chiefs against the Titans at the Titans. Chiefs are still favored by three and a half. Let's see, what else do we have in here? Do we have Patriots getting three at the Ravens. The Raiders getting 14 and a half at the Texans. Jags getting three against Fritz's Broncos. All right, some interesting match. We got a lot of football coming up starting Thursday night. And you got Friday night, Friday bull games, Saturday bull games Saturday, NFL Sunday, full slate Monday night, Sunday night. Get busy. Yes.
Paulie
Paulie. Phil Rivers getting his second start. 49ers at Colts Monday.
Dan Patrick
Night. 49ers are favored by five and a half.
Paulie
Yes. Paul, I kind of wish for the story. I'm not necessarily a Rivers fan or not a fan, but he would have snuck out the win, got out of there and they bring in Richardson or whoever the or Riley Leonard and it was a oneand done grab a win and not get banged.
Dan Patrick
Up. Yeah, I know, I know. That would have been pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, that would have been fun. Just a one and doner. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would have been fun. 30 for 30. The one and doner Philip Rivers. Let's see this day in sports.
Paulie
History. Paul, your 1972 Dolphins became the first team to go unbeaten and untied in a 14.
Dan Patrick
Game. Oh, you know what? I always forget about that each year that they go when undefeated one.
Paulie
Year and never remind me your guy OJ Simpson. 1973 broke Jim Brown's single season rushing record. Brown had 1863 and OJ got 2003 in a single.
Dan Patrick
Season.
Paulie
Yeah. And 1979 Roger Staubach of the Cowboys played his last regular season.
Dan Patrick
Game. One of my favorite players and way ahead of his time. You imagine somebody who. Roger the Dodger, that ability to run and didn't get into the NFL until he was, what, 28? Something like that. After his military service requirement there. Let's go around the room, see if we learned anything. Todd, you learned anything.
Paulie
Today? I did. Santa Harbo reminds us tis the season for.
Dan Patrick
Competition. Seaton, what did you learn? Jim Harbaugh's been texting Sherro Moore. Yeah, a little surprised with that. Or that he told us. Marvin, what'd you learn.
Paulie
Today? You're quitting.
Dan Patrick
Surgeries? Yeah, I'm done. I'm done with surgeries. Surgery doesn't know this, but I am done with surgery. Paulie, would you.
Paulie
Learn? Roger Staubeck was 27 years old his rookie.
Dan Patrick
Year. Todd, did I learn anything.
Paulie
Today? You did. Joe Thomas hated playing in Cincinnati.
Dan Patrick
On that old hard turf, as well.
Paulie
As Soldier Field and the old Heinz Field in.
Dan Patrick
Pittsburgh. We did it. We made it through a Tuesday. Fritzi, Seaton, Marv Polyures. Truly. Backroom guys, we'll talk to you tomorrow.
Paulie
Buddy. What a matchup we got.
Dan Patrick
Y'.
Paulie
All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody. Showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right.
Dan Patrick
There.
Paulie
Mmm. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going. These days, it seems like AI agents are just about everywhere you turn, every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing it. Fortunately, Okta helps you get identity right by securing your AI agents identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a single user or your entire enterprise, with Okta, you'll turn risk into opportunity. Secure every agent. Secure any agent. Okta secures AI. When your little one has got to go number two, show them your number one with little dude wipes, the flushable wipes for kids. Lil Dude Wipes are free of chemical binders and alcohol, so they get the safest possible.
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Sandwiches. It's all about that 12 gram protein boost with the new Uncrustables Bright eyed Berry or up and apple.
Dan Patrick
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Receiver energy up an apple. Your classic do it all tight.
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Freezer. Whether you're on the couch, driving to the tailgate or heading to the locker room, new Morning Uncrustable Sandwiches are the MVP of.
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Hour 3 – Quarterback Draft Class, Mike Golic
Date: December 16, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Mike Golic Sr.
This episode dives into the uncertain landscape of the upcoming quarterback draft class in the NFL and its implications for key franchises. Dan and the crew discuss coaching hot seats, the impact of player transfers, trends in the NFL draft, and stadium surfaces. A featured interview with Mike Golic Sr. brings an insider perspective on playoff contenders, the Steelers' leadership, NFL field conditions, and what teams need at quarterback.
"[Arch Manning] would be a top 10 pick, easily. And he doesn't need the money... but he needs to play."
— Paulie, [07:21]
"At the end of the day, what are you going to get out there that's better?"
— Mike Golic Sr., [25:47]
"Every visiting team filed a grievance with the NFL before their game in Philadelphia. Never went anywhere."
— Mike Golic Sr., [30:42]
Hour 3 delivers a comprehensive look at the dilemmas facing teams seeking quarterback stability amidst a shaky draft class, offering veteran insights from Dan, the crew, and Mike Golic Sr. The episode is rich with perspective on the state of the NFL, both on the field and in the front office, balancing speculation, humor, and candid critique.