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Quinn Buckner, their broadcaster, former NBA player, will join us as Pacers are a win away from going to the NBA Finals, thanks in large part to Tyrese Halliburton, 32, 15 and 12 rebounds tonight. The Timberwolves holding on for dear life. The Thunderer went away from going to the NBA Finals. Minnesota is getting eight and a half. The Oilers up three one on the stars. Panthers. Hurricanes. That's game five. Panthers up three one in that one. And Shohei Ohtani. That's three games in a row with a home run. He now has 20 on the season. 8 7, 7, 3, DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle it DP Show. The stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you. Downloading the app and our radio affiliates around the country. We'll get to those phone calls coming up as we make way for the man they call Buck. He is Quinn Buckner, the Pacers color analyst, former NBA player joining us on the program. Quinn, great to see you again. How would you. Do we have him? I think we need a minute. I think we got to call it 20 for Mr. Buckner. He just needs a minute. Okay. We had him for a second then. All right. We lost him. Okay. Oh, I. Did I commit a turnover there? I think it was not on your side, I think. Oh, okay. A little technical issue. Still looking at a triple double, though. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But I can't have a triple double without a turnover here. I can't join Tyrese Halliburton. We got to see how they credit that in the box score there. That was your turn. What is the poll question for the final hour? How many MVPs will Shohei Ohtani finish his career with? Right now, four has 40% of that vote. It actually goes exactly in order. Four, five, six, and then seven with just 12% of that vote. And we also have up there which team down 31 is most done. Timberwolves running away with that one. Followed actually pretty closely by Hurricanes, followed pretty closely by the Knicks. People believe most in the Stars. They only have 9% of that vote. All right. Yes, Paul, I was thinking if anyone ever had a triple double with turnovers included, I know that would not be a Positive one, but it'd still be a triple double. I wonder what the most turnovers by a player in an NBA game. Do you think it's more than 10. But is that part of your triple double that you had points, rebounds, turnovers? It's not positive, but it counts as a triple double. Well, there was one player. Was it Nate Thurman, who had a quadruple double? Did he have points, rebounds, blocks and assists? Maybe. I think Hakeem had a couple of those. Did he really? Yeah, I think Hakeem had two quad. Quad doubles. Okay, quad. Quad dubs. They would be quadruple doubles. Quad dubs is a kid. That's a quad up. Quad dubs. And you had a Q dub out there. We're checking Otto in Los Angeles. Hi, Otto. What's on your mind today? How you doing, guys? I had a great about the NFL schedule, but I want to say something about the New York Knicks, about Boomer saying about the celebrities. I kind of agree with him because game one, it looked like a freaking high school homecoming basketball game. It had all the former stars there, everybody's high five and clapping. And then they thought it was sweet and then ended up losing that game. So I think it's something to do with it. As far as the NFL, I'm a Charger season ticket holder, and the Chiefs are coming out here for the home game because they're in freaking Brazil. So do you think the NFL should be scheduling NFL rivalry division games out of country? No, I don't. But the NFL doesn't care what we think. And, you know, I brought this up when they started to do this, you know, we were going to do more NFL games in, in Europe, around the world. And I said, you are going. The NFL will create a schedule that will be international games, an entire schedule for international games. That's exactly what they've done. So now you can, you know, bid that out and then, you know, networks are going to spend billions of dollars on that. Quinn Buckner, Pacers TV color analyst, former N player, joining us on the program. Buck, good to see you. How would you describe the atmosphere last night? Very much. I wouldn't say chaotic. It was fun. It really is exciting. You know, basketball is a big part of what the state of Indiana is about. You know, it's in the ethos of the. Of all of the fans. And so to see the Pacers at this stage, I mean, as you know, and those that watch, Reggie's there, Jermaine o' Neal is there, Lance is there. I mean, You've got a number of the guys. Danny Granger, who had not been back, came to the game and. Excuse me. And Triple H. I. I'm not into wrestling, but that's a big deal for Reggie. I'm not so Reggie, but for Tyrese, because Tyrese is a big wrestling fan. So you got all of that going. And John Mellencamp, it was. It was a lot of fun. Just a lot of fun. What's more iconic, Reggie's choke to Spike Lee or Tyrese Halliburton recreating that choke? Well, the fact that he recreated is. It's pretty creative on his part, but. Well, it's not creative, but it. It's something that he wanted to do. But I have to say, Reggie's is by far the most iconic. I don't think there's any question about it. First of all, that say points, nine seconds. That's a huge difference when you look at it. Even though Tyrese got it going, could have moved that foot back and make the shot. But I'll tell you what this is. This kid is. He's not a kid. He's a young man, but he really gets what winning basketball is about, and. And it's important for him to share it with his teammates. And that's one of the reasons why this team can run, because guys are run if you know you're going to get the ball and he will throw the ball to you. And he does it very uniquely. He. He even admitted he's one of the few guys in the league that does a lot of jump passes, which for many of the older generation understand that was something that was taboo. But he has the ability to find a pathway to deliver his teammates the ball. And equally important, his teammates understand if he gets in the air, you got to get open because you don't want him to travel with it. So they make an effort to give him the space, and then from there, it's knocking down the shot. He's got swagger, but he's likable. Like, he. He. He doesn't have that, you know, where you don't like him because he's so cocky. Excuse me. Typical of you. That's a great observation. You. You're very observant. Yeah, he really does. And that's why he can play with his teammates, and they're not jealous, because he's not trying to take the limelight and carry it for himself. It really is his pride in how he plays and plays for his team and plays for the guys. He's big on his guys, as a human being, when you're around him, he lights up a room. He wants to make sure everybody is comfortable. All those kind of things that you, you like about human being. He makes sure he engages you, everybody. And I mean top to bottom, pardon me, including those, if you will. Because I've always watched guys to try to see how they treat, if you will, the back office, the back room, how do you treat people there? This guy is the same with everyone. And when he gets on the court, you know, guys I have understand, he's just a really good guy that just happens to be one heck of a basketball player. Can the Knicks come back? Can is, is is a word that you can use on at any time. I, I think the paces are hard for the Knicks to play against because the Knicks are more of a, a slower, they're slower paced team, which is typical. This is what's unusual about this to me. And maybe you, because you watch the sports, many sports, but this one, the game typically slows down in the playoffs. And the further you go, as I was fortunate enough to do with the Celtics and others, the further you go up that ladder, the more it slows down. The Pacers have managed to maintain their pace for the most part. The game they lost, they lost the pace at the end of, I think it was the first half and the beginning of the third quarter. And it caused them a problem with this kind of pace. It's going to make it very, very difficult. But you know, can is a word. But I'm not, I don't know, it's really tough. He's Quinn Buckner, the Pacers TV color analyst. You were prominently featured in the Celtics documentary. A couple of stories stood out when your wife wanted to know how confident Larry was going into the game seven in 1984. Yeah, she, she was very concerned about that. And Larry, we gonna win. And Larry just gets out of the car like we all do get out of the car. Yeah. And just keeps walking. I mean he did, he just kept walking. And my wife, I think felt better about the whole situation. But that, that is Larry yesterday, today and tomorrow. He is the ultimate confident guy. But Larry looks at it, he's just playing a basketball game. He never looked at it like it's, you know, he knows it's the seventh game, but he just does that. But he also had that ability to, I think maintain that, that presence, that, that, that confidence because he knows it helps his teammates also. You were there in, in New Orleans when Larry, when Larry went off against The Hawks and Dan. It was one of the most. I've been, been blessed to be around the sport for many years, and I'm going to say more than four decades, I have never seen anything like was one of the great athletic performance, great performances. I, I don't go to plays or anything like that, but he did it, he did it simply. And when I see Dominique over there and the guys on the bench giving each other five because he's taking a shot, he's got no business taken. He's got guys draped on him and he makes it and just runs down like he's breathing. You know, he's just breathing. It's just the next shot, but the proverbial zone. He was there. And you know, the blessing for me, quite frankly, and I'm a little selfish in this thought, is I was there to, to witness it. But I'm telling you, it was one of the great performances I have ever seen. And I happen to be blessed enough to be around the bulls in the 90s. But this, this was something that was just unbelievable. But you, you played with Larry. You're good friends with Michael Jordan. Can you compare and contrast their competitiveness? Oh, they were equally competitive. I don't know if you can really say one is more competitive than the other. I only think about when people ask that question and they don't often because I don't one, I don't really delve into it, Larry. And for those who you are religious. Don't, don't, don't, don't take this the wrong way. Michael got 63 on the Bulls, I mean on the, on the Celtics in the playoffs. And Larry had. Somebody asked him about Michael Jordan. He said, well, Michael Jordan's a basketball player. It's like he basically said he was God. He, Larry had never seen anything like this. Larry enjoys winning. They both are very, they're smart as all get out. They read people at a high level. But getting those two and this is, this is one of those to death kind of things. You get those two against each other, it's to the death of both of them. Not one of them to both of them, because that's how competitive they are. Today's NBA, if you could tweak, I'll give you, I'll let you be commissioner for a day. You can tweak one thing or change one thing. What would you do? That's a interesting question. I'm not sure I would. I played in the era that was much more physical. These guys are supremely more talented than Those generations in the 80s and the 90s, the three point shooting, I think is going to. It will taper to the degree that you have more capable players shooting. Some teams have guys shoot the ball, some, some people have shooters and some people have makers. Okay. There'll be more, less people shooting the ball that can't make it. And I think that will make the game probably even more interesting. But I just like the evolution of the game and how, how it's grown. Dan. I did not take to it, quite frankly, when it first happened. Dick, Dick Vital, the great Victor. Dick Vital. I think you work with him. So you know, Dick, he was on this from the very beginning and thought it would change the game. I think it's more exciting for fans. I think the players are much more excited about it and, and like to do it. But there's some guys, you know, you just, you want to just shoot it because they're not going to make it. So there's not anything necessarily that I would change from the game. I'm, you know, I'm sure Adam and his crew is spending many hours on that. I don't anybody compare to Steph Curry that you saw. No. Prior to. No. No. Okay. No. No. And I got to give Mark Jackson credit when he. And I remember him saying this, Mark played for the paces, for those of you who don't know, and was a great guard from New York. He said when he got him, he said you these are the two best shooting he guards maybe in the history of basketball. Steph is so unusual because Steph can get his and he is never. He's in terrific shape, which I think is, is a factor quite frankly as we talk about New York and the Pacers play. Can't get it. But if he get it, he's gonna make it. He played against the Pacers one game and I'm not proud of this and I don't think anybody in the organization is. He got 60 points in 29 minutes on 11 dribbles. And it was, it was an unbelievable performance. Now Steph's going to take more dribbles than that, but he's capable of doing that on it. I mean, at that time, on any given night, obviously as you move into your 30s, you're not. There's nobody that ever compared to what Steph does because most guys shoot were shooters in, in earlier times, but they didn't have the ball handling skills quite as effective as he does. There's going to come a day where Larry Bird's not one of the top 10 players of all time. I don't know about that. I don't know about that one. Dan, I am telling you, Larry is, is, is. There's a uniqueness about him, but I tell you who is comparable. And, and, and Larry has said there's only one guy he watches play, Jokic. And if you look at him, the difference is Jokic is longer, but that's about it. And longer, and that's not about it. He's taller. They play and whatever talent they have on their team, those guys play at a higher level. For having played with Larry, I knew it because I did. And, and I watch jokers do that. And, but getting Larry out of the top 10. No, you're not gonna, I, I, I may be biased, but I don't think so. I just think if you look at pure basketball players, Larry Bird is as pure basketball players, you're ever going to find nothing he could not do. You know, can't jump, can't run, beat you get your triple double, the whole nine yards. No, Larry's staying in the top 10. If it ends up Pacers and OKC, how does, how does Indiana win? The bench has got to be really good because OKC plays 10 to 11 players and they all contribute. And this is what I think is the, for me, what I enjoy watching in terms of the coaching, Rick has done a terrific job and you can go, you know, nine. He has gone 10. And you get some really good performance. OKC has 11 guys that they may throw out there. Everybody may have a specialty, but they star in their roles. The others have to starve in their roles. On the Pacers, I think Matheran's consistency off the bench. He had 20 last night, but he struggled for the previous games. That's got to have some consistency. 15 to 18 points a game, and you're going to have to get a lot more out of topping all of that because OKC can score the ball, but they're the best defensive. They may be the best defensive team. Well, I think left, they really challenge you and they can run with you and get back in transition. It is, it would be a very difficult series. Thanks for holding up your golf game. I'm sure you're headed to the golf course. Right? Right. You called it. All right. I appreciate it very much. Always good to talk to you. Thank you, Buck. That's Quinn Buckner, Pacers TV color analyst, former NBA player. We'll take a break. We got an NBA quiz coming up. Also another NFL game coming up to play. We're back after this Dan Patrick show, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio Apple. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. 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Timberwolves are getting eight and a half tonight with the Thunder in okc. Time to play a quick NBA game. Paulie is your host. Do we have some music here, Marvin? Of course, of course. Game show music feeding which NBA player had the most turnovers in a single game in NBA history and how many did that person have? And would anyone like a hint? Yeah, it happened in the last, within the last 25 years. All right, what position did they play? He was a point guard. Was okay, it was a point card. Was a point guard. Yeah. See, well, my initial guess was a Russell Westbrook type. Yeah. Because they're like ball dominant. They had, they need the ball a lot and they, they get a lot of minutes. They would be in a position to turn the ball over many, many times. Yes, that is incorrect. However, going to give you two bonus points because Russell Westbrook had 11 turnovers three different times in his career. That's pretty high. But he did not. I'm going to go James Harden. Oh, that's a good guess too. Another good guess. You're getting a couple bonus points. James Harden had 12 turnovers one time in his career and that's third all time. Here's A little fun part of the game. The guys who are in second and third are a small forward and a power forward. One is, Giannis had 12 turnovers in a game three years ago. And Chris Mullen, the great forward guard, had 13 turnovers in a game back in 88. What a loser. But that's not the record holder, Molly. That's not the record holder. No. Yes. Marvin Paul, you said was a point guard when he played. He was a point guard. He no longer plays. He didn't switch positions. Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd is correct. Nicely done. Jason Kidd had 14 turnovers on November 17, 2020. Here's the bonus we talked about. Quad dubs. Quadruple doubles. Yeah. Jason Kidd had a quadruple double that night. 18 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists and 14 turnovers. The unlikely quad dub bonus coverage. Who else had quad dubs in NBA history? There are four gentlemen who had quad dubs. Here's a hint. They all happened between 1974 and 1994. Nakim Olajuwon. That's correct. Did he do it twice? Correct. Okay. Does that take care of two of the four? That takes care of four different gentlemen. Oh, four different players. Okay. Is. For some reason, I think Nate Thurman is in there. For some reason, you're correct. Wow. He's the first person to do it. 1974. All right. Okay. Martin. David Robinson. David Robinson is correct. 34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks in 1994. Here's the toughie. 1986. This gentleman did it with 20 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists and 10 steals. He was known as a. A temperamental player and a very good allaround player. Yes. Morin. Alvin Robertson. Alvin Robertson is correct. Come on. This dude. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Are you. Are you looking. Are you looking at him? Come on. I don't. Marvin doesn't cheat. I've seen him do a lot of good answers here, and he does not cheat. Are you saying there's somebody who does cheat? No. No. Okay. It just felt like Marvin was on an island that he doesn't cheat. So Jason Kidd, who we just had on the show, is he in the Quad Dub League? I should have brought up the Quad Dub Quad. Yeah. Patrick in Indianapolis. Hi, Patrick. What's on your mind? First time, long time. 6 foot, 175. So about two years ago, I was watching Pardon the Interruption and Mike Wilbon was talking about how he was just speaking with Flynn Buckner. I'm a police officer. And the very next day, I Had an interaction with a man, no fault of his own. He did nothing wrong. But I thought I recognized him, so I asked him his name and it was Mr. Buckner. I was starstruck when I told him it was nice to meet him. And now I feel like I'm friends with Mike Wilbon and Quinn Buckner, even though they have no idea who I am. Thanks for taking my call. All right. Thank you, officer. Yeah, by proxy. I'm friends because you're friends. And now I'm friends with Michael Wilbur Wilburn. Are we going to play the NFL hall of Fame game? Well, this is a kind of. I was thinking about this with Kirk Cousins. He's at 288 career touchdown passes. That's pretty high level stuff. He's 18th all time. Let's say he gets another shot with another team and finishes in the 320 range. No, he'd have to win a Super Bowl. Right, but who is the. Statistically, he's not getting in. But if he wins, if he wins the super bowl, then I could say, okay, maybe. Okay. The question off this list is I have the list of the most touchdown passes in history. Which quarterback is not getting in that has more than 300 touchdowns. I'll throw out a name. Philip Rivers has 421 touchdowns. It seems. I mean, it's crazy to say with 400 touchdown passes, he's six all time. Probably not getting in. Maybe like a veterans committee or something down the. Never appeared in a Super Bowl. That's crazy. Well, in. His playoff record was pretty medium. That's crazy. Yeah. Okay, this Ben Roethlisberger, he's obviously going in, right? 418. Matt Ryan is ninth all time with 381 touchdowns. He has an MVP. A Super bowl loss. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I would think with the MVP that that might be enough. You know, like Cam Newton, he's not up there on the. The passing touchdown list, but won an mvp. Went to a Super bowl as well and lost in dramatic fashion. Well, no, it wasn't dramatic. It was over quickly. It was less than dramatic. Yes. Paul, can you believe that Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan shouldn't get in the hall of Fame, but also think that they will? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, here's the next one. This is a toughie. Okay. Russell Wilson's 12th all team. Went time with 350 touchdown passes and counting. He's ahead of guys like John Elway, Johnny Unitis, Warren Moon, Joe Montana, Dan Phelps. Jeepers Creepers, 350 yeah, but the game changed. The game changed. Okay. You can't, you can't look at numbers from the 70s and 60s. They just, they didn't throw the ball 50 times. Oh, man. Let's say he doesn't add any more significant work. He just starts another year or two in the NFL. God, it's on a random Wednesday. Well, he's playing himself out of soup. The hall of Fame contention. And you go back to that super bowl and if he wins that, then you know there's. Because he has a better career than Eli and they would go in with two super bowl wins. But Rogers is going to go in. Who would you rather? Yeah, but his, his statistics are like mind boggling. Touchdowns, interception ratio. Who would you rather have in a big game, Eli Manning or Russell Wilson? Oh, in a Super Bowl. Who do you want? Paul? Russell. Todd. I'm gonna take Eli Seaton. I'm good with Russ. Marvin. Russ. I'm gonna go Russ too. Yeah. Russ has 350 touchdown passes, only 111 interceptions. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I hate to say, but like Russ, he did good enough to win that game. I know it ended on an interception, but I don't. That interception really wasn't his fault. It was just an amazing play. And everybody and their brother knows hand the ball off and you win the game still or run a run pass option. Yeah. Then, then you decide if you're going to throw it, you're going to be able to throw it away and maybe you, you were able to run it. Give the ball to Marshawn and you win the game. Yeah. Yeah, Paul. So we probably think that Rivers, Matt Ryan and Russell will go in should is a different topic. The Kirk Cousins with 288 touchdowns, he'll be in the threes someday. Carson Palmer has 294 career touchdown passes, 15th all time. He's not going anything. No, but these numbers are going to be hollow because in the next 10 years, the number of quarterbacks, you know, Joe Burrow, what's he going to end up with? I mean, just run down the list of what guys are going to end up, you know, with their touchdown pass total going to be, you know, everybody's going to get to used to be 300. I think 310 was Fran Tarkington's record and it was there for a long, long time. They just blew right by that. And I think it. If you don't get to 300, we're going to look at you and go, man, you pedestrian or what? Get a couple more phone Calls in here, Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind? All right, dp, thanks for taking my call. You can go back in time and accomplish One of the two things. Dropping 40 or the sports Emmy. I'll hang up and listen. All right, I take the sports emmy because that, that's a team effort. If I'm putting up 40, that's just me. I mean, somebody might have to rebound or set a pick, but no sports Emmy. No, these guys need it. They desperately want that sports emmy. And I, if it's the last thing I do, I'm gonna get them that sports semi. You're welcome, Todd. Thank you. Thank you. Didn't mean to wake you up. Adam in Chicago. Hi, Adam. What's on your mind today? Hey, Daniel, thanks for calling me back. Fellas, Happy Wednesday. I've got a loss on the hall of Very Good, and I'm moving into Steven Jackson's Brothers hall of fame. I'm 6 foot 3, white in Al dente, but I'd like to announce my eligibility for the Brothers hall of Fame because I just want to see at that table and quick little trivia for you, standing cup time going on here. What two brothers have the most points in the NHL combined? Gretzky brothers. You got it. He thought. He thought he had you. Well, it, it's similar to what brothers have the most combined home runs in Major League Baseball, and it's the Aaron brothers. So, Justin in Austin. Hi, Justin, what's on your mind? Hey, Danny, how you doing? Thanks for having me. So listen, I grew up in New York for 30 years. I have to defend my boy Boomer. There's a big difference of New York crowds and LA crowds. All right, first off, the fans are mostly blue collar and grew up with the team in New York winning and losing, but the passion and pressure is real. They know the game. New York celebs are almost all from nyc. They all grew up there as well, watching the team. So that's extra pressure when you play in front of people that know the game. Louisiana celebs do not know basketball for the most part. None of them are from la. All their best fans, Denzel, Jack, they're from New York. Anyway, so it's all fake in la. Alright, well, thank you, Justin. I can't imagine now if you're saying because of the celebrities who are there at the Garden that the Knicks don't play well, not once the game starts, you're not worried about what's going on around you. And here I am, you know, trumpeting Just how great Jalen Brunson is in the spotlight. So, you know, you can't have it both ways. Yeah, you know, he's big time and, you know, they. He plays big and then all, oh, man, these guys, the. The atmosphere now, I understand the atmosphere, but they're all on your side. When the atmosphere is you're on the road. When you're the Lakers and you go into the Boston Garden and Magic hits the sky hook to win the championship, that's pressure. That's in a. An environment that is hostile, not where, you know, you're playing in front of your own crowd. And, boy, they. They want us to win so badly, try to do that, win a championship on the road. And, you know, that's. Whenever I think of Magic and they say, what's one play that stands out? It's that play. He had a skyhook over Kevin McHale and Robert Parrish and won a championship. That's pressure. Not going into your own building, and then you're surrounded by friendly fire. And I get that, you know, the expectation level is pretty crazy there in New York, but the Garden, I mean, I can still feel the Garden that day. And you're thinking, they are going to. He may have just won the championship, and then Bird got loose in the corner, should have hit a jumper, and, you know, Boston ended up losing. That's pressure. That's pressure for both teams, but more on the Lakers to try to do it in the Boston Garden. Yeah. Paulie, I want to go back to what you said with Quinn Buckner about Larry Bird falling out of that top 10. And you're probably right. Over the course of the next 20, 30 years with Bird's back injury. But like you've said, we've said before, Magic and Bird are tied together. And their ranking on the list doesn't matter because it's like contributions to the game. Their top three as a pair, you know, if you put them together, what they did for the NBA, they're linked together and they'll never be separated. Yeah. And I. And I do like that. And we have suggested that, that, you know, Magic and Larry. Larry, Magic. But, you know, you got guys who are doing some things, you know, just Joker eventually move it. Imagine Joker gets another mvp. Larry had three, but let's say he gets another one. Does he move into the top 10? Is. Is Steph Curry in the top 10? Greatest shooter of all time, got four titles, unanimous MVP. Is Kevin Durant going to go in there? So I, I just. I think you as much as we like to hold on to those players. There's a couple of players who just aren't going to stay in the top 10, I don't think. Yeah. Paulie, Larry Bird had a nine year run his first nine years where he finished first, second or third for MVP. Well, I can pick out a night, I can pick out Larry's best run and LeBron's best run. And I'll take Larry. LeBron's a better player, you know, for a variety of reasons. You know, if I look at longevity and you know, everything he did in the game. But if you say here's a window and if I give you, let's say all the players, I give you a five year window, six year window and you take the best six years now got to be consecutive the best six year run. With these players in the top 10, I'd be curious how we would rank those players. Would we rank them much differently or would somebody fall out? Would somebody jump in if I looked at a six year run? Yes, Marv. Yeah. Because a lot of times we're talking about longevity, but how good were you at the peak of your powers? Right. And so maybe 86 Larry Bird. There might not be too many people that can touch Larry Bird in 1986, especially that three year MVP run of his. So that's how I would go off of it. Yeah. Paulie Michael Jordan had a six year run from 24 to 29 where he finished, he won three MVPs, finished top three every year. He was also top five defensive player of the year for six straight years. Yeah. Although it's weird with all defensive team because Larry Bird made I think first team all defense a couple of times. And Larry was not a defensive player. He played the passing lanes. He'd get a lot of steals but he, I don't think that you would go, boy, that Larry is a lockdown defender because he wasn't. And he had rim protectors there behind him with McHale and Parrish and Bill Walton. But. All right, let me take a break here. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. In the iHeartRadio app, t mobile stats are as impressive as your favorite athlete's highlight reel because T Mobile helps keep you connected from the heart of Portland to right where you are on America's largest 5G network. Switch now keep your phone and T Mobile will pay it off. Up to $800 per line via prepaid card. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com keepnswitch up to 4 lines of your virtual prepaid card. 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Alrighty, so we got hockey tonight. Panthers, Hurricanes, Timberwolves at the Thunder. Thunder. How about this day in sports history, Paul? Just a couple. 1951, Willie Mays hit his first home run. It was his first time at bat in the major leagues. That's cool. 1956, Dale Long became the first to hit home runs in eight consecutive baseball games. Ooh, tough one. 1957, the National League allowed the Brooklyn Dodgers to move to Los Angeles, the New York Giants to move to San Francisco simultaneously. Dang. Blasphemy. Blasphemy. Fritzi. That would have been a big show the next day for us reacting to that. Yeah, but the Giants moving to San Francisco didn't receive anywhere near the fanfare. The Dodgers moving out of Brooklyn. Imagine losing two franchises in a day. That's. That's a tough day. Toughy. A 1962 Wide World of Sports with Chris Schenkel premiere. That's awesome. And another toughie. 2006, Barry Bonds of the Giants hit home run 715. You know what that meant. Speaking of Barry Bonds. 1998, Buck Showalter intentionally walks Barry Bonds with the bases loaded. So there's two ounce bases loaded, ninth inning and his team is up eight to six. Buck Showwalder of the Diamondbacks walks Barry Bonds. Brent Main comes to the plate and then lines out to end the game. I mean, here's the thing. They won the game. So I guess you could say Buck had the right call. Also this one, I think, I think I have his name right. Rob McCoviak. He played with the Pirates. His wife is in the hospital and she's getting ready to give birth to their first child. He hits a walk off grand slam in the first game of a doubleheader, then hits a game time two run homer in the nightcap with the Pirates to go on went on to win. So on the. The birth of his. So that that child is 21 years of age right now. All right, let me see. Update the final results of the poll question if you can see no counter. Yeah, we got two of them working right now. We have up there. How many MVPs will Ohtani finish his career with right now? Four has about 40% of that vote, followed by five, then six, then seven. We also have which team down three. One is most done. Sorry, Minnesota, but the Timberwolves are most done. Yep, sorry about that. I could see that yeah. Eight and a half point underdogs and okc. I wonder, since Minnesota could have won that game, they Only lost by 2 points, can you have the same philosophy if you're okay see, with Ant man, and that is let everybody else try to beat you. Or do you all of a sudden go, you know what? Maybe, maybe we decide that we'll take our chances with Ant man going off. I mean, Lou Dort's going to be guarding him, but he's going to get a whole lot of help when Anthony Edwards gets by. Yes, Mark. Now don't overthink it. What's been working? Keep it up. Thank you, Martha. Yeah. Oh, you asked the question. I answered it. Oh, I know. Okay. It was a rhetorical question. Was it? Okay, yeah. 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