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Last night saw Shohei Ohtani get taken deep first inning and then all of a sudden he comes to the plate and then he goes deep as well. It's just fascinating. It's, it's such a great head start when it comes to winning MVPs because if you're a quality pitcher, high end pitcher, so that's going to stand out. And, and then you have the hitting part of it. It's just, you know, it, it would be difficult for him to lose an mvp. Now I don't know if there's anyone even close to him talent wise as a hitter in, in the National League. And then you throw in the pitching part of that. And when you speak of pitching, I watch Paul Skeens. I don't know if he's going to be able to win the Cy Young. He's got great numbers. The problem is he's playing for a team that's not very good. But you start to look at, you know, we've seen this before. Felix Hernandez in 2010 was 13 and 12. Jacob deGrom in 2018, 10 and 9. Trevor Bauer Covid season won the Cy young. He went 5 and 4. Jacob deGrom in 2019 went 11 and 8. And then if you're looking at just winning percentage, Gaylord Perry in 1972 went 24 and 16. So his winning percentage was.600. Imagine having 40 decisions, 24 and 16, 40 decisions back then. I did see Buster only the great baseball reporter for the mothership saying that Tarek Scubal, the Tigers pitcher who's awesome, he, he's probably going to get $400 million. And I thought those days are long gone with their starting pitcher. You know, Garrett Cole got a big deal with the Yankees. And you know how I feel about these long, long term deals. I just guaranteed to go wrong. But Tarek Scubal is, he's the real deal. It feels like he, I don't know how many like legitimate starting pitchers there are where you go, you know, that guy could go somewhere six or seven innings. Now I know that sounds like, oh my God, you went seven innings. It used to be like there was a, a walk of shame when you didn't make it to like the eighth inning. If you were, you know, the number one guy. If you were a hammer out there, you're not taking me out of this game now. It's. I got in trouble. I've gone four and two thirds. Can you come out and get me? Yeah. Paulie Tarek Skubel's in year six. He won a Cy Young last year. He's made over 110 career starts. He has one career complete game. Yeah, well, you just, we're not asking that anymore. That's why I wouldn't pay $400 million to Tarek Scubal. As, as great as he is, I just, is he, am I going to treat him differently than every other organization is treating their number one pitcher, their starting pitcher? Are we going to say that he will go six or seven will be surprised if he doesn't go? Okay. And I'm fine with that. But I still wouldn't be paying $400 million. I wouldn't have paid Garrett Cole $350 million. It's a picture. I mean, seems crazy. Yeah. Paul. A bunch of years ago, when Tarik School made his debut or a couple games into his career, I misheard his name. I thought his name was Tarik Screwball. I was like, that is a fantastic name for a pitcher. That's awesome. He was destined for this. And then I watched the replay of Sports center and realized it was Tarek Skubal, Derek Skubel. But he's the real deal, man. He and the Tigers are real, too. They were a playoff team. You know, first teams to 60 wins. Who would have thought the brewers would be the, you know, one of the first two teams, The Tigers and the brewers, first to 60 wins. And the brewers have been on a heater, man. This isn't just winning 11 in a row. Like, what have they done since maybe the start of May? Like, they put together an incredible run here. So it's not one of those. Well, they're, they're playing really well right now. They've been playing really well for a while. NFL training camps are open. All veterans report today. And the mayor of Washington, D.C. says that the stadium is on course that I know that President Trump had talked about maybe making that new stadium a challenge if they don't change their name back to the Washington Redskins. All right, poll question for the final hour of the program. Speaking of pitching, by the way, rich Hill is 45 years of age. He's pitching for the Royals tonight. He has pitched for 13 different teams, but he's pitched for at least one team, I think four different times. The Red Sox, I think four times that he's, he's been A Red Sox, but, wow, that's a lot of teams. And that ties him with, I think, Edwin Jackson for the most teams in a career at 13. But he's been with the Red Sox, I think four different stops. That just feels like you're. You're flying into Boston. You're going to connect at Logan Airport, and the Red Sox say, hey, while you're here, would you pitch a game? Sure, I'll do that. Then get back on the plane and, you know, go to your next destination. Yes. He's definitely, like a good food recommendation guy. He's lived all over the place. You know, you need to know a steakhouse in any city in this country. Not only has he played just from traveling, but he's lived in a lot of these cities, too. So he's got the lowdown pretty much on any food that you need. Rich Hill should put out a, you know, a book on his travels and best places to stay, what to do when you go to this city. King of the hill. We'll call it Rich Hill. Oh, that's right. There's already king of the hill. Yes, Paulie, Rich Hill was drafted in 1999. That's how long ago he was drafted. Also, he made his major league debut 20 years ago next week. Good for him. You know, it's not like he's. His pitch is slowing down. I think it was already slowed down that just like, hey, get ready for an 88 mile an hour heater. Yeah. Paulie, we do have the Rich Hill game, which we've been wanting to play. Oh, ready for it? Sure. Okay, here it is. Simple question. Rich Hill making his start tonight for the Royals. What will his max velocity be on any pitch? Max. He'll top out. Yes. He might be pumped up, though. He might get, you know, like. All right, I'm gonna go out there, and I'm gonna bring it. I'll say he maxes out at 88 miles per hour. 88. Guess. Yeah, I don't think he's dipping into a nine unless it's 89. Anybody taken over 88 for Rich Hill? How about how many innings? Or as they like to say, how many pitches? Over. Under 60 pitches for Rich Hill. Over. Under 60 pitches. I'll take the over. Marvin's got the over. I'm gonna go under on that. Okay, okay. All right. So Rich hill at age 45. I'm gonna go over with pitches and 86 topped out for a pitch. Okay, 86. All right, 86. Feels a little light, though, too, doesn't it? On borderline disrespectful. Now Nolan Ryan can probably, if I gave him six weeks, could still get into the 90s. I truly believe Nolan Ryan could throw 90 mile an hour. And. And how old is noli? Is he 74? Something like that? That'd be. That'd be awesome. That would be awesome. Yeah. Get him out there bringing cheese. So, Rich hill, at age 45, what is Paul schemes. What, Todd? Nolan Ryan is 78. 78. How about that? He can definitely throw his age. I think he could definitely throw his age. And he's been 78 for a while into January, so he's like 78 and a half. Oh, okay. What's Paul Skeen's record? It's a losing record. What, five and eight. Five and eight. Five and eight. He's winning every place else other than on the mound. Feels like stats are good. All star starter in love. The question is, what do the Pirates do? He can't be the one that says, get me out of here. Let me. Let me pitch, you know, meaningful games. Let me pitch for, you know, a team that gives me support. But if you're the Pirates, at what point do you say, we can get a king's ransom for this guy that will better the organization? The question is at, you know, I would keep him as long as I could. You know, he's still a draw. I know it's important to win, certainly in that city. They haven't done much of that in the last, what, 20 years, but you still have a draw. And it's all about getting people to show up at the ballpark. Yeah, Paulie, I see what you're saying. And he is a star in a draw, and they need it. But they will never get deep into the playoffs with the roster they have because they can't afford to keep him and spend on the roster. And if you get deep in the playoffs, a Tarek Skubal or a Skeens can go seven or eight innings and win you that. That title. But if they trade him early, if the Pirates somehow trade him early, they'll get the biggest haul in recent baseball history and they may be able to reset their entire farm system and have one of those runs with a bunch of young, talented players and may sneak into a deep playoff run. I don't think he'll ever pitch a playoff game with the Pirates, but it's always temporary because once you get somebody who's good enough to help you get into the postseason, you don't want to pay them. And then they're going to play for somebody else like that. That's the problem. I remember watching Garrett Cole with the Pirates, and I go, he's going to be great on some other team. And that may be the case with Paul Skaines. Yes, Todd, you also don't want to be bad and have no identity. Like, at least if you have schemes that he's synonymous with the Pittsburgh Pirates right now, like it or not, at least you can get behind the Pirates. If you're a fan saying you've got this one star player at least, as opposed to being a terrible team with a bunch of no names that may amount to something in the future. All right, let me get a couple of phone calls in here. The controversy, so called controversy with Celebrity Family Feud. We've been accused of cheating, which that's not accurate. We didn't do anything. Maybe if something happened with Celebrity Family Feud and maybe they made a mistake, I, you know, I say we're not guilty of anything, even though Rich Eisen and his team came out and accused us of cheating. Chris and Syracuse, on that topic. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today? Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey. I was only able to catch a little of the show today, and thank you very much for getting me in. I was only able to catch a little bit and. But I came right in on that Family Feud stuff. And I, for me, I guess the best word maybe not in his crew, but disappointed, especially in Rich. You know, I think it was 15 years ago, probably at least you allowed him and he was very good. You allowed him to host the show several times. And I'm almost positive he had never done any shows hosting nationally especially, and he kind of cut his teeth on the show. And I'm not saying that's the reason he is where he is, but it certainly helped him out. And yeah, just disappointed. And I, I hate to use the same line I used yesterday, but it's so fitting for Rich Ison and his crew. I mean, Tony Dungeon's mama's advice, when you win, say a little. When you lose, say less. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, if they want to be critical of Steve Harvey and Celebrity Family Feud, that's one thing. We didn't cheat. We didn't manipulate anything. We did as we were told. Fritz. He had an answer and then he got buzzed and then Steve Harvey said, you know, give me another one. And then you gave an answer. And they, of course, said they were poised with the correct answer, which I find a little suspicious because they didn't have any answers. To anything else that day. It's just sour grapes, that's all. Like, you got humbled, humiliated, embarrassed, and you want to blame somebody. I blame myself. That's what I would do. Yes, Paul, I do know what they're saying. They said before, if you answer something that's already on the board, you're gonna get axed. But that's not our fault. Absolutely not our fault. When we're up there on the stage, we're being run by his production team, Steve Harvey's production. We're being. We're the cogs. And they were telling us, do this, do that. You know, here's how it goes. And if they would have told Fritzi, you didn't get it, we would have gone, okay, we didn't get it. But they said, no, no, give us your answer. And he gave me yes. So are you guys saying the Eisenhower did get ripped off by Celebrity Family Feud? No. That's what it sounds like. No, it sounds like you're saying that Todd did do it wrong, and they just didn't know that. They just didn't follow their own rules. Did he do it wrong? I don't know. But if they did do it wrong, it's not on us. It's on them. So that we didn't cheat. Did they make a mistake? I don't know. But that's not our fault. We'll probably never know. Unless Steve Harvey comes on and says, you know, hey, my. My fault. My bad, guys. But Todd did, you know, like a true hero does a competitor. He kept going. He's a winner. That's what he is. Yes. They wanted us to win. They should have given Marvin that answer when he just blanked. That would have been good. That would have been a solid. Help Marvin out or help me out. The old guy who didn't hear Steve Harvey's last clue on Fast Money. Yeah, they didn't give you that one. They didn't give you that. Yes. And I didn't even hear what the clue was. And then, you know, Eisen shows, like, you know, strawberries and Blueberries. I. I know. I didn't hear it. But the fact that they were buzzkills when we're celebrating one of the greatest achievements of this show's history, that was pretty weak. And they're saying, as we're jumping up and down, one of Rich's producers, you know, they gave Fritzi another chance and shouldn't have given another chance. And I'm jumping up and down, we're screaming, and I'm going, what? What, What Name a type of grape sour. It's it, it would be like if Matt Ryan of the Falcons blame the referee for the Patriots coming back and winning. I mean, that's Matt Ryan being all class. That's what it is. You know, instead of saying, hey, you know, it felt like, you know, maybe they allowed Fritzi to take advantage of something. But still, those guys were the better team, obviously, the smarter team, the brighter team, the more cohesive team. And yes, we were lucky that we were even invited on the stage. I think that's probably how they should phrase, you're never going to get that. I knew that. But that's what they should. Sounded lovely. Like nobody's reaching out to the Rich Eisen show to put them on to begin with. And then it was like, who will come on? And. And I think everybody was afraid to come on against us. So I do give Rich and his team credit that they thought they had a chance. Yes, Marsh, I know you were into content, but did you want to win more than get good content? I wouldn't have wanted to steal the board and get a whole bunch of points, but we didn't come up with the clues. As I told you guys when we started, my philosophy was let's take the clue. Let, let's, you know, always play. We were never going to pass because I said, worst case scenario, we get a ton of TV time, but we don't win. And best case scenario, we get a ton of TV time and we do win, which that's how it played out. Oh, former GM Mike Tannenbaum, I guess is going to join us, talk a little bit of football there. We want to talk to Mike about the philosophies of this Bengals and the Cowboys with their two defensive stalwarts that are holding out now the approach that you have by Jerry Jones and Mike Brown. We'll take a break. Let's see, we'll get to more phone calls. We'll come up with a new poll question as well. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, FOX Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips blaming me. Well, you know what it's called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. 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And I guess more phone calls in regards to the family feud cheating scandal, or at least we're accused of cheating by the Rich Eisen Show. Speaking of which, I'm at dinner last night with our production assistant Anthony, who everybody thinks is my son or my grandson, and a gentleman comes up to me and he says, rich Eisen? I said, yes, goes, yep. I love watching you on SportsCenter. And I said, thank you. Walked back to his table. Anthony goes, you're not going to tell him that you're you? I go, it's a far better story. If he thinks I said. He could have said Stuart Scott, as that has happened before one time. Hey, Stuart Scott. No, no, close, though. Close. Yes, Paulie. I get Jim Lampley. Like if someone walked into a restaurant, saw you, and they don't know sports that well. Hey, Jim Lampley, the boxing announcer. I could see that you don't look at anything like Rich Eisen and vice versa. No, no, no. Or Stuart Scott. No. A little here and there. Do I look more like Stuart Scott than I do Rich Eisenhower? A bit, yeah. A little bit in the eyes. Okay. Okay, thank you. Mike Tannenbaum of the Mothership, former general manager in the NFL. Kind enough to join us, Mike, I want to get your reaction to these two different clips from two different owners. Let me start with Jerry Jones and what he is saying about Micah Parsons. Just because we sign him doesn't mean we're going to have him. He was Hurt six games last year. Seriously, We've signed. I remember signing a player for the highest paid at the position in the league and he got knocked out two thirds of the year. Dak Prescott. So there's a lot of things you can think about, just as the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money. What's the purpose of those comments, Dan? It's stunning and totally unnecessary. It's the cost of doing business. Nobody knows that better than Terry Jones, who was one of the architects of the collective bargaining agreement. Look, there's parts of the agreement that are both. That are good for both sides, Dan, and everyone knows the risks. But you're fortunate to have a great player in Micah Parsons. And he's going to be the highest paid non quarterback in the history of the NFL. Every day you don't get that deal done, the more expensive it gets. And I was stunned by what he said. All right, then you have the Bengals owner, Mike Brown, who said this about his great edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson. We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get Trey signed as we speak here. There are guys over in the office working to get that done. We like Trey as a person. He's a good guy. But when it comes to these negotiations, and we've been through a few of them with him, he pushes hard, he gets emotional. We never have an easy time of it, but there's one thing that is consistent. It always gets done. And I think this one will. Okay, you have an owner who inherited a team and he is critical of a player who gets emotional trying to negotiate a contract here. Help me understand what Mike Brown is saying. Yeah, likewise. That. That was a surprise, Dan. Look, if they had locked Trey Hendrickson a room after the last game and said, hey, we're gonna make you the highest paid pass rusher would have been $34 million, 34.1 million higher than Nick Bosa. And when we see the off season, Danielle Hunter, Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, and lately T.J. watt. And if we're running the Bengals, Dan, T.J. watt and Trey Hendrickson are two months apart in terms of age. Trey Hendrickson has out produced TJ Watt over the last two years. And we know based on everything Pittsburgh has done from Aaron Rodgers to DK Metcalf, John who Smith, Jalen Ramsey, Dan, they're going to get D.J. watt done. So why are we waiting? So I was surprised by Mike Brown's comments and I just. They had a great off season getting T. Higgins side Jamar Tay side. Why not be aggressive and proactive to get Trey Hendricks inside? Yeah, it feels like the Eagles gave us the blueprint, gave us the blueprint for building a team that Howie Roseman's done a wonderful job and Jeffrey Laurie and getting these contracts done. And they. They don't drag out, I don't think, do they, in Philadelphia? You're making a great point. No. And look, if we're in an arms race, we're the Cowboys and we're trying to catch the Eagles, and we're paying premium prices and they're getting discount prices. That's why you lose guys like Jordan Lewis to Jacksonville, DeMarcus Lawrence to Seattle. You know, Adam Schefter mentioned this morning, Dan, like, maybe that's why they didn't have the money to sign Derrick Henry. So if you. And they've done a nice job of drafting, if, you know, you have CD Lam or Dak Prescott or, in this case, Parsons, sign them early. You would save tens of millions of dollars. And that translates into keeping more good players to your point, which is what the Eagles have done. How tough is it to be a general manager and have an owner who speaks? Well, look, I always define the job of being a GM is the point guard of information. I gotta sit between the head coach and owner and it could be Darrell Reavis or whomever and say, hey, look, here's where we are. Here's what's reasonable. Here's what they want. You know, is there a spot that we could all live, live with, fight another day, maybe not ideal. And look, owners are going to speak. They certainly, you know, they're entitled to it. Dan, my whole thing was, if we're speaking, let's just be aligned on the sound bites, and let's never say anything negative or anything that could be inflammatory to the other side, especially the big media markets. I want, you know, worked in. And Jerry Jones is too smart and too strategic. Like, why would you want to inflame Micah Parsons or even take a shot at Dak Prescott? Wasn't like, Dak Prescott tried to get hurt. You know, the guy cares deeply. He got hurt. So I was really surprised. But what, you know, what he said. But is this how owners really think? We're just hearing the quiet part out loud. That's a fair question. I. Look, I don't think it's one size fits all, to be candid. Do some owners think that way? Yeah, obviously they do, but, you know, there's others that all they want to do is, you know, want to win. They understand the risks involved. Look, the collective bar agreement, Dan, is a very long and complicated agreement. All these valuations of the franchises keep going up. So the asset appreciation is a very big one for the owners, which it should be. They've taken the risk of ownership and they should enjoy the upside. Players get their bites of the apple when they earn it three years and, you know, from their rookie year to get back to the table. So to me, I'm Jerry Jones. I'm very well aware of how much my franchise has gone up. I should thank the players that are busting their tail for me. And when a guy gets hurt, it is what it is. Nobody wants it to happen, but that's just part of the game. He's Mike Tannenbaum, the former general manager in the NFL, works for the mothership. How often were you told to sign somebody that you personally didn't want to sign? Well, I would say what would be more frequent was like, how much to sign the player for. And again, you know, we had a sign up in our, in our office, Dan, in God we trust. For everyone else, we need data. And basically that symbolized, hey, when we have disagreements on who to pay, how much to pay, it's not going to be who screams louder. It's going to be, let's get more information, let's watch more film, let's do more research, whatever it may be. And I just felt like if we kept drilling down into the information that should lead us to the best decision. It's hard, Dan, because not only do you have 90 players, but it's how much to pay them, how much of the pie to give a player. And you're going to have disagreements on, you know, a player's worth. And I just felt like the more information we could get, the less emotional it is and the more reasonable we can be be getting to a landing spot. That makes sense. What is the downside of paying Micah Parsons a dollar more than TJ Watt if you're going to lose other good players? Like when your cap is 280 million and 60 is going to DAC and 41 or 2 is going to, you know, Parsons and CD Lambs getting his. Like you're upwards of, you know, 130, 35 million dollars for three, three players and you know you're going to have injuries. So that's why, to your point, which I agree with, on a team like the Eagles and you have Devonte Smith or AJ Brown that's getting paid the mid-20s and CD lambs in the 30s, that cumulatively adds up. And we're seeing more and more of the top end of these players get more money. Like if Patrick Mahomes walks in tomorrow and says to Andy Reid, either pay me 70 million a year or are going to retire, they're going to pay him 70 million a year. That's going to cost them, you know, a good guard in Joe Tuney, for example. And that's the context of the decisions you have to make, which is when we pay a star player, which is a great problem to have, somebody else is going to have to leave the roster. Always great to talk to you, Mike. Safe travels. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you having me. Thanks, Dan. Mike Tannenbach, ESPN A couple of phone calls in here. Susan in Alabama. Hi, Susan. See, my whole thing with, you know, these contracts, if you're going to pay Micah Parsons, then just pay him. Just get it over with. Don't have any acrimony. Don't have it stretched out. Just. Just pay him, because you're not going to get a bargain. So, like, what? What are we waiting for? You got to have him, get him, make him happy, put him in camp. Now we move on. You got bigger issues than this. Your issues are the Philadelphia Eagles right now. Hey, Susan. Hey. How are y' all today? We're great. Good. I just had to call. I called on July 11th when y' all were in Tahoe, and it was my birthday, and I dialed that number 426 times. I either got a busy signal or it rang and I couldn't get through. And I. I just love this show. I have bought so many T shirts from y', all, I cannot wear my Marvin shirt out anymore in public. But I. I just love y'. All, and I just wanted a happy birthday wish even though it's two weeks gone already. Well, I think we can do that. Ready? Said Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you very much. That made my day. Thank you, Susan. She's referring to the Marvin T shirt, where Marvin's handprints are strategically placed and. Can't wear that out in public. You can. You can. Fred in West Virginia. Hi, Fred. What's on your mind today? Hey, how are we doing, man? I love the show. I love everything about it. But I can't help but wonder, because this whole Rich Eisen situation, this seems to me that this is the game show version of the Butt Fumble. Okay. Do you want to explain? Well, they fumbled the ball. I mean, how many times we ended game, they're like, oh, it was a foul. It wasn't a Foul. They, they, they couldn't, they couldn't close. They couldn't finish the game. They were like, they were, it was like hack a shack. And they, they go to the line, they shoot the free throws. They did that for a reason. They couldn't finish. Michael Jordan came to the line. You guys closed it out. Good job. All right. Thank you, Fred. So the Rich Eisen show, the Mark Sanchez of shows with the butt fumble there. I think the word cheating, you know, is accusing us of doing something nefarious and we didn't. Oh, you know what? If we caught a break then, all right, that's not on us. You know, it's, it's on somebody else. Let me see Eric and Tucson. Hi, Eric. Thanks for holding. What do you have for me? Morning, Dan. Morning, boys. Hey, man. I called in about the celebrity family feud. That sounds a little frivolous now after how the last hour ended and you know, the juxtaposition of the NFL and Major League Baseball could not have been illustrated better than the last 30 minutes talking about Jim McMahon and his injuries and no health care. And then you have a 45 year old pitcher who's gone tonight after 20 years. You know, the, the difference is just stark and how these players are left when their careers are over. Just wanted to make that comment. And then as far as the fam. Family feud, there's an opportunity here, a charity Crockett, if you will. You versus all of the sports Emmy nominees. Last man standing gets the Emmy. No, I want to earn it because of what we do on the show. But thank you, Eric. And Back to Jim McMahon. You know, I might have shared too much about his health situation, but when he told me that they considered amputation of one of his legs, portion of his leg, I, I mean, I was really surprised that he had no health care from the NFL. And you know, that's being naive on my part of just kind of assuming that they take care of you. They give you the opportunity to sign up for something that's beneficial for you but not, you know, crazy cost inflated. So here's one of the characters of the game in a Super bowl winning quarterback and here he is maybe getting his leg amputated and you know, has a hard time walking. In fact, needed a golf cart to play out in Tahoe. So yeah, that, it just kind of hit me in that moment. Here we are talking about the NFL Players association and what the hell is going on here? And you know, if I'm a player or former player, I don't have any confidence. Are we in, in cahoots, in collusion with owners, the players association colluding, part of the collusion. That's wild. Can you trust them? I wouldn't. I couldn't. But you know, that's, that's, that's the real with these sports. You know, that's the reality of it. And I go back to when I was in Houston at the super bowl and I saw Earl Campbell in a wheelchair and I thought, God damn, was it worth it? And they'll all say yes, but really, was it worth it. And man, you have second thoughts about that because that was a guy who poop. If you would have said the guys that tried to tackle him ended up in wheelchairs, then I would go, yeah, yeah, I guess so. That takes a toll. Whether it's five years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30, 40 years takes a toll. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow, right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Life's messy. We're talking spills, stains, pets and kids. 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They had the premiere in New York City last night and star studded, but I saw Derrick Henry there, and that created a lot of conversation because Derek Henry Sandler famously said, if Derrick Henry gets 2,000 yards, he's in his next movie. And Derrick Henry was there for the premiere of Happy Gilmore 2, so maybe some negotiations were going on. In fact, even I think Sandler was overheard saying, hey, you're in my next movie. I don't know if that's next movie if he doesn't get 2,000 yards, but that's probably going to be the case. Greg in Florida. Hi, Greg. Wow, that's awesome. Adam Sandler, outstanding. Hey, I'm thinking about Jerry Jones and the way he sounded number one at the end of the day, it's a really classless way to talk about his players and the injuries and not get anything out of them. You kind of talking and treating them like they're prized horses or something. Not and dehumanizing, to be honest with you. But he's old, he's brash. He's a, he's a, he considers himself a master, master negotiator. I don't think he really cares. What comes out of his mouth is his filter's gone. So you get what you get with Jerry Jones, and it's a shame that the Cowboy organization deserves a lot better than that. That's just my view. All right. Thank you, Greg. Well, they are viewed as cattle. I, I, let's not kid ourselves here. Like, we'll use you and, you know, until we can't, until there's nothing left or you're too expensive, you're not good enough, and then we move on from you. I mean, that's just supply and demand there with NFL owners. Yes. Mark, for Jerry Jones, for you. Do you think that his bigger goal is to win one more super bowl or to just keep the Cowboys relevant? You know, I, I thought, of course he wants to win. He's obsessed with winning. But then Dan Orlofsky said to me last year, he goes, he cares about just staying in the news. He wants to be in the news cycle constantly. And he's done a great job of doing that. And look, the team's worth $10 billion. I don't know, at some point that, I mean, you got a fan base that stayed with you, and that's saying a lot about that fan base, because you really have very little to show for the last 30 years. And, you know, Jerry. Jerry just wants credit because he had the best coach. He had Jimmy Johnson. And I mean, that's how great Jimmy was. Jimmy left Barry Switzer his team, and they won a Super Bowl. Like anybody can coach this team. You're going to win a Super Bowl. That's how good Jimmy was at assessing talent. Yeah, Paulie, I think Jerry, one thing he would never do is go for a rebuild. Not a tank, but where you realize, we don't have it. Let's play for the draft. Because that takes you away from relevancy. If you get the number one pick, you're relevant. But I don't he would ever go that route of saying, this isn't working. We're not going to sign these guys. We're going to be financially prudent and play for next year. He won't consider that. Andrew in Vegas. Hi, Andrew. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan, how you doing? Good, sir. I always forget to give the Dan us their flowers, so they're in the mail. I think you're underestimating what the general man would do to get in one of the leagues. I'd probably give up any foot or hand for a pension from any league. Okay. I mean, that's you. I, I'm only telling you what I saw with Jim McMahon. That, that's all. He doesn't have health care. You know, that's attributed to the NFL Players Association. That, that's the point. McMahon would probably say, hey, I, I would risk it again to put myself in this situation. I don't know. I'm just telling you that you see these players and then you don't see these players, and then the next time you see him, you go, wow, man, he's barely getting around. Boy, he looks banged up. He's in a wheelchair. That was the point. That's all. Meanwhile, you got the head of the NFL Players association going to strip clubs. Like, feels like there's more important things for somebody who's running that to be looking at today's players and yesterday's players. That was it. This day in sports history. Paulie, what do you have for me? I just got a couple. 1962, Jackie Robinson, first African American ballplayer into the hall of Fame. 1926, one of our favorites. At Mitchell Field in New York, Babe Ruth caught a ball, dropped from an airplane flying at 250ft. He did catch it on the first try. On this date, 1997, Greg Maddox threw a complete game. He beat the cubs. He threw 78 pitches. You got guys who are at 78 pitches in the fourth inning, complete game. But Maddox, Maddox was so brilliant. He would, he would make you get yourself out. He would, he would throw it. He knew you were going to hit it, but he would make you get yourself out. Therefore, he wasn't trying to strike out everybody. Mason in Georgia. Hi, Mason. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. First time caller, long time listening. 66205. I listen to you in the old Atlanta days, but I can kind of put this Rich Eisner thing to rest. My wife and I feel like we're experts on this show. The ritual for us every night while we eat dinner to watch this show, we just get a kick out of it. And I can tell you that many, many, many times he has given a contestant another opportunity to put another answer up, that the answer is already up there. So you guys shouldn't feel so bad that he gave he gave y' all an opportunity that he does that all the time. So. All right, Mason, welcome to the team. That's what we learned. Yeah, boy. Todd, what did I learn on today's program? We just learned Andrew in Vegas would give a hand or foot to receive a pension after playing a pro career. What we learned Brought to you by Rapid Radio's official walkie talkie of the DP show. Push to Talk service. National LTE coverage. No subscriptions ever. 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