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Sunday Night Football, it'll be Justin Jefferson and the Vikings against Dak and the Cowboys. That'll be at 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, I mentioned with the NFL it was more about the teams that lost over the weekend. Certainly the Colts losing and losing their quarterback. Chiefs lose last night. Bengals lose in Buffalo. The Buccaneers lost at home. The Ravens lost at home as well. You know, the Bears had the best record in the nfc. They ended up losing to Green Bay. And Green Bay is kind of quietly becoming a very good team, if not great team. And you know, I think we focus usually on the offense and Jordan Love and is Jordan Love holding them back and the defense is playing well and, but that's a big win. You know that. You know you're at home. Yes, you're supposed to win. It's against the Bears and you end up winning because when we look back on this season, there's going to be a couple of teams where you're going to single out one game, maybe two games where you go, how did you lose to them, take care of the business that's in front of you and then you hope that you're going to be able to get into the postseason. You know, the Steelers, Steelers aren't great. They're a little better than average, it feels like. But that's a desperate Ravens team. You're at home. You got to win that game. You have to win that game. And would I have given Isaiah likely a touchdown? I would have because it felt like it was one step, two steps, control of the ball. Football moved to keep the ball away from the defender and they decided to overturn that. But as Aaron Rodgers said, maybe this will keep us idiots in the media off Mike Tomlin for a week, maybe nationally, not locally. It'll be like we struggled. We maybe shouldn't have won that game. But that's a big win. But it's not like the Ravens are out of it in, in that division. They're still in it. You win two in a row. Did you see Ben Johnson, the Bears head coach, and Matt La Flor at the end of the game with their handshake? Frosty is the word that I would Use keep in mind, when Ben Johnson was sworn in as the Bears head coach, he was like, oh, yeah, I always like beating the packers twice a year. That was when he was an assistant coach in Detroit. Well, now you're the head coach here, and I think that's why it was a little bit of a frosty handshake at the end of the game and they play each other in two weeks. But I was kind of surprised that when Ben got sworn in, I'm like, all right, he's buying into that rivalry now. You got to go out there and win. Yeah, Paul, that barely counts as a postgame handshake. They didn't even break stride or slow down. It was like in real time, a grab and go. And they didn't even give the good game turn in. That's you just throw away. I did like it though. Yes. Because, you know, I. It feels like, hey, everybody loves everybody. Every quarterback loves every quarterback. Every coach loves every. That's not the case. But I like it when you don't like each other. I like it when there's a little bit of a frosty nature added to that. Packers next game in Denver. In Denver. Ah, that's what I want to see Jordan love against that Broncos defense. Because that Broncos defense, I think they're up to like 55 sacks, something like that this year. They've been great. And they roughed up the Raiders yesterday as well. All right, eight, seven, seven, three DP show more phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. Seaton, you got a poll question for the final hour and then we will talk to Rick Neuheisel. Yeah, we got three of them up there right now. Notre Dame, either your options are got hosed. We'll change the playoffs. Is being petty or all of the above right now being petty? About 36% of that vote followed by all of the above, which is 34. We also have up there the Chiefs playoff chances are dead on life support or Alive. And well. 54% of the audience have them as dead. And the worst loss this weekend, Bucks, Chiefs, Colts, Ravens. It's in that order, actually. Bucks and Chiefs almost tied for the top. Frenchie just reminded me the late field goal by the Raiders put the game total over by a half. The total was 40 and a half. The field goal got it to 41 and the over the point spread was seven and a half. They were down 10. They kick a field goal and they lose by seven.
This is where Todd comes in. He goes, how do they do that? How do they do that? Crazy. Well, it's their job, Todd, that a last second meaningless field goal somehow gets involved with. I just, I can't. This is what they do. They have to do this so they can make money. Rick Neuheisel, college football analyst, works for cbs, joining us on the program. All right, do we talk about what the committee got right or what the committee got wrong? I think the answer is we're all kind of lost in a, in a world that for six weeks we were told that Notre Dame was better than Miami. We all made our, you know, proclamations about how that game went on the field of play in week one. But to do it for six weeks and then choose the week after neither one played to make the adjustment, that to me is time for a change. And I don't blame anybody. But all of a sudden you, you've teased Notre Dame for too long to, to do this to him. And I, I see now they're taking their ball and going home. They're not going to play in a bowl, college football. Well, what do you make of that decision to not play in the bowl game against byu? I think it's a sign of the times. We saw Iowa State, we saw Kansas State also make similar decisions. Obviously coaching changes there as part of it. But I think bowl games are going to end up being the first game of the year, Dan. I, I think we're going to see a bunch of these bulls go by way of the whales. And I also think the College Football Playoff is going to go as they, you know, extended that deadline to January 23rd. I think we're going to go right past 16, all the way to 24. Well, wait a minute. We're going to get rid of bowl games. What do you mean by bowl games will be the first game of the year? I think we're going to have a hard time talking a bunch of teams into playing in the postseason. Maybe I'm wrong, and I hope I am because I remember vividly how much I enjoyed him, both as a player and as coach. But I just think in this day of transaction football, where people are coming and going, that there are going to be a lot of teams and we're going to see a lot of players that aren't going to participate. And I think that's a shame. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of these bowl games get moved to the front end of a college football season. Does Alabama deserve to be in? Not based on the eye test. They were. They were not themselves. Give Georgia a lot of credit for that. But that was not a good looking football team. And you know, those two conference championship games, the acc, excuse me, the FCC and the Big Ten, for there to be that little movement in the, in the CFP rankings meant that they were basically not important enough to make changes. That to me signals a time we're going to change those out. We're not going to have those. We're going to end up having play in games to replace the money. And I'm wondering about these weekly ranking shows that ESPN has. Right. And I think it puts the college football committee in a really precarious position because they, they have to explain themselves and they don't do a very good job explaining themselves. No, they don't. And, and the poor communicator in this case, Hunter Yuricheck, the CFP chairman has to try to make sense of things. And I mean for the, for six weeks you basically said that, that Miami is not as good as Notre Dame because Notre Dame's on this fabulous run. Notre Dame finishes the run, Miami finishes the season and then you flip them. It brings into question all sorts of things which isn't fair to the committee. But ultimately they have to answer. So these shows to me ought to be one show, the last one. And I understand how television works. We like our cake and eat it too. We like people's eyeballs and commercials and all that stuff. But, but that was, that was difficult. I knew the committee was in trouble when Boo Corrigan as the committee chair Dan said, as you know, we like wins and we value wins. When he came up with that pearl, I said now that's, that's common sense. He's Rick Neuheisel CBS college football analyst former college football head coach if I would have told you five months ago, Indiana is going to be undefeated number one team in the country and they're going to have the Heisman Trophy winner and Notre Dame is not going to make the playoffs. You would have said, where's the statue of Signetti? The guy has pulled a rabbit out of his hat. Is there anything that's comparable to what he's accomplished? Because I do think it's being underrated what he did growing up in the Midwest, knowing what Indiana football was and it they want to be a basketball school and what he's done in two years time is remarkable. Yeah, I think we're working so hard to figure out how it could have happened. And obviously with the transfer portal and his experience at James Madison and a lot of really good players, the Surat kid And others that came with him from James Madison. But at the end of the day, let's just stop and admire the work done. It is phenomenal. It is out of this world. This is a program that was the losingest program in all of college football. No one had lost more games. And for them to go and have this run that they have enjoyed 112 last year and now sitting there at 130 and the number one team in the land going to a Rose bowl. If you're a Hoosier fan, you're going, just don't wake me up. Just keep this thing rolling. And now, you know, we're going to be listening to ABBA play. Fernando for on and on and on. How many teams can win the title? I think seven. I think I like maybe, maybe eight. I think the top seven teams are all absolutely good enough to do it. And as we saw over the weekend, defense plays, right. Those were games I think all went under. So if you have the, the top seven and, and I think if I'm looking past the 17, I kind of like Miami. I think Miami is dangerous if Carson Beck gets on a heater. How did Penn State do in the big picture here?
A whole lot of, a whole lot of, you know, consternation and a whole lot of, of time and money spent to get the same coach. I mean, Matt Campbell's a fine coach, but he has no better resume than James Franklin when he got there. And James Franklin had a great run. I understand the, the whiplash of the three games and why it happened, but.
Matt Campbell's going to have to go aways to be better than what James Franklin is. And right now, if you're looking at Virginia Tech and Penn State, the momentum is clearly with Virginia Tech. I was told over the weekend that we're going to 16 teams with the playoff next year. I think I, I, I think, you know, as the old saying goes, the answer is money. Now what was the question? Right.
But, but you know, given the Notre Dame situation, I wouldn't be shocked if we go right through it. I really wouldn't. Because to get to 24 now, you can start supplanting some of these conference championship games, which right now, after the weekend we saw, even with Alabama looking that terrible, didn't move a spot. Ohio State lost the game but is the two seed and nothing really matters. All they did is risk players. I think we're going to look for games to supplant those and in so doing we're going to end up at a number that's larger than 16. Why would we stop knowing that we're probably going to get there anyway. Yeah. But you know, the conference championships have always been a money grab. Sure. Right. That's all that's, that's why they basketball just like basketball conference tournaments are a money grab. They don't really mean that much when you're in the the power for structure now for the ACC and the, the Big 12. They're, they're important games because loser is out. And in this game, even winter was out. I wonder if they might make a deal with Notre Dame in the acc. If the ACC doesn't have a champion as, as Duke was that Notre Dame can be their champion. Remember Notre Dame went as their as an ACC team back in the COVID year. Who would you make the commissioner of college football? Oh, goodness. Is there somebody who can do that job as, as big as it is? It's all it is is giving the bad news. Right. It's, it's the guy who can come up and tell people or, or the, the woman who can come up and tell people things that they don't necessarily know. A new type of commissioner like somebody like Goodell, like scheduling, you know, he's running or they are running everything here. I'm available. Dan. I just want to make you record. You got a great life. You don't want this. I got, I got my, I'm working on my grip. Oh, okay. Enough people hate you. You don't need more people to hate you. It's an excellent point. It's an excellent point. I don't need that nonsense. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate you. Always wonderful to be with you. Happy holidays and I'll have a song for you the next time we talk. RICK Newisel CBS Sports analyst okay. He brings up something interesting from the standpoint of expanding the playoffs. Now I'm going to take a break, then we'll come back. I want to talk about this because there's also going to be a push for something that has to do with bowl games and we might flip the script of having bowl games to start seasons. They want to make sure that these players are going to play in the bowl games. Rick has talked about expanding the playoffs to 24 and I understand you may not like it his logic, but I do understand it. We'll take a break. We'll come back, more of your phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports. 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That is going to go viral there with that comment. Now, I did ask Pete to explain the decision. Notre Dame is going to sit out there. Bowl game. You know, we made the decision not to play in a bowl game, as I know you're well aware. And a lot of. A lot of people have asked me about that. And, you know, when Marcus. We watched the presentation show, the selection show with the team, and then Marcus, like he always does, was wonderful, Got up and for somebody that always has great answers, he was brutally honest with the team and said he didn't have a lot of answers, doesn't understand how this happened, why this happened, why a team that thought it was doing what it needed to do all of a sudden kind of woke up on kind of the wrong side of this. And then just as you're kind of dealing with that, you start getting these calls from other Bulls and, you know, the role of a captain on the Notre Dame football team is a role that, that the program and Marcus takes very, very seriously. And he talked to all the captains, you know, said, hey, what are you guys thinking? What's, what is the team thinking? Let's talk about this. And you know, to a person, the captains and some of the other, you know, underclassmen on the team said, listen, we are such a close knit team. We've done so much this season. We overcame those two opening losses. We rallied, we dominated in the last 10 games. We can't imagine taking the field not as that team. And it's reality, Dan, you know, that certain players wouldn't participate in that game. You think about somebody with the future that he has, like a Jeremiah Love, a Jadarian Price, Eli Raritan, you know, Emil Wagner, who's one of the most impressive people I've met in my life, who hopefully, after he's done playing football, I hope he runs for president one day. It just wouldn't be the same. And, you know, made the decision that it was time to start thinking about next season. Give these, these student athletes a break. They have exams coming up and then, you know, really, hopefully they'll, they'll go home and spend Christmas and the holidays with their family and friends. So that's Pete Babaqua. He's the athletic director at Notre Dame. And whether you agree with him or not, I wish they would have played in the bowl game. I do understand what he's saying. If you're not playing for anything, then why are you playing in the bowl game? Especially if you're Jeremiah Love and you're going to be a top 15 pick and some of these other players at Notre Dame, why are you playing? This is why. What Rick Neuheiser was saying, if you expanded to 24 schools, now you have, and they'll still be playing in bowl games, there'll be playoff games, but now all of a sudden they're relevant. Now I have more teams, more players and better games.
Now, is that too many, 24 teams instead of 12 or going to 14? But this is what Rick Neuheiser was saying. I'm wondering if we get to the point where we need to schedule bowl games at the beginning of the season to ensure that you get a good game neutral site and you're going to get players who are going to play. Now, you know, it's not during the winter time and a lot of these fans want to go to A nice place, weather wise? Well, the weather would be nice in September everywhere in the country. And then you could get them to play in a bowl game as opposed to the future. The bowl games might be in jeopardy here. Yeah. Marvin. Yeah. You could do the same thing college basketball does every single year. They have the preseason nit, Duke plays North Carolina or Kansas plays Michigan State at the beginning of every single season. Madison Square Garden, they always have a big college basketball game. So you can kind of do the same thing to make sure you have a big time matchup and put the name of the bowl on there. Yeah, yeah. I think college football is changing and what happens, it usually takes something that, you know, calls about change. If you believe this calls about change, it's Notre Dame and it's a controversy. And I think you can actually understand Notre Dame side of this. Just from the standpoint of Miami didn't do anything, but they jumped Notre Dame. Why wasn't Notre Dame in front of them for the last month? Alabama loses and really was never competitive in the SEC title game. And they don't drop. Why not? Because history shows teams that lose in those conference title games almost always drop. 20 out of the last 22 have dropped in the rankings. The only two that didn't, Alabama. And then I think you can go back to TCU a couple of years ago. That's it. But they didn't drop. I'm going to go back to what my source said and he said it during the week. It felt like the committee was setting Notre Dame up for disappointment. That was the quote.
And it stayed with me the entire weekend. And when I realized Notre Dame wasn't in, it just felt like ACC was against Notre Dame and maybe the college Football playoff committee to a certain degree was. But put Miami ahead of them then we don't have that controversy. Alabama should have dropped down. Yes. They're in the SEC title game and that's the most demanding conference and to do that is quite an accomplishment. But you were not competitive in that game. You should have dropped at least a little bit there. Yes.
Agree, full stop. Paulie, you know the other thing you could do if you wanted to make a 16 team playoff? You could remove the conference championship weekend and make those into a series of play in games for the last two spots. And those could be called bowl games or something like that because right now the conference playoff weekend is becoming semi relevant. But it doesn't really matter in your rankings. You could lose and still stay where you are. So what used to be a great weekend and impactful weekend is kind of like high end exhibitions. Yeah, I hate the conference championship games. I do. Some conferences have a conference championship game, some don't. Can you schedule another game? You know, Vandy tried to do that. I'm curious if Notre Dame tried to do that. It just make it all equal. There's. There's millions and millions and millions of dollars at stake here. Yes. All that's really being highlighted though, essentially on an annual basis is how stupid this whole setup is. Okay. The idea that we've just gotten to a point where you said, you know, I actually hate the conference title games. What are we doing? Oh, I've hated him for years. What are we doing? Years. It is the dumbest thing in the world, but it generates money. And that's all they care about. That's all the playoff is about. It's about. Yeah, it's generating money. It's not. No one actually cares who is the real winner. It's how much money can we make until we decide, well, you're the winner then. Okay, yeah. Somebody going to get a nice shiny trophy at the end of this. But then all these schools are going to make millions of dollars because they're in, you know, the playoffs. And you're right. I mean, they went kicking and screaming from 4 to 12. Remember that? 4 to 12 getting to 4. And they screamed the entire existence of college football Herculean. When I go, wait a minute. When we went from two to four, I did say on, on the radio show, all right, I'm good. Like I'm. We accomplished something. And then all of a sudden it was 4 to 12 and I go, oh, my God, this is awesome. I don't want us to go to 24. But I do want these games to mean something. In college football has so many games that don't mean anything. But maybe you put a bowl game at the beginning of the year. Maybe that's your bowl. Your bowl month celebrated. ESPN will sell it. Yes. Marvin. Yeah. The ACC championship meant nothing. Duke won. Great. You won in front of 15,000 people. You won a trophy. You're still not even. They should have put them in the playoffs. You won the acc. Right? Playoffs. I thought that's how it usually goes. Yeah, well, it used to be. Yeah, Paulie. But conference championship weekend could also be a double standard. It doesn't hurt Alabama to lose poorly, but it does hurt BYU to lose poorly. Both were right there in the thick of things, but BYU getting beat 34. 7 by Texas Tech. You wipe your hands of BYU, they are out of the mix. That's what the committee did. Yeah. Seaton. Just the fact that we sit here year after year and debate why you can't expand the playoffs. I mean, how would that even work? There's a whole other group of schools that have a 24 playoff since forever, and it works just fine there. And they go to class. How in the world can we honestly sit here and be like, why would that even work? I mean, how could you possibly expand it? I want 12, 16. What's next? 24. Yeah. They've been doing it since I don't even know how long. Yeah. Yes. What the hell? What is this a debate for? I don't. Why would we do that?
Adam in la. Hi, Adam. Best and worst of the weekend. Happy Monday, dp. I have two bests and a quick two worst of the weekend. My best was that I got the opportunity to be the head coach for my two oldest daughters in their first varsity basketball tournament. They both did really well. Couldn't be more proud of as a dad and a coach. Second best was my Los Angeles Rams with the bounce back dominating performance over the Cardinals, back on top of the nfc, Matthew Stafford again, another flawless performance. Definitely right now. Front runner to win NFL mvp. Two quick. Worse, nobody should be crying about not making the college football playoffs. The top four is more than enough for me to make it this year. Second worst. Purdue suffering their worst loss at home in over a decade at the hands of a really good Iowa State team. You all have a great week. Thanks, dp. You're the best. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Zach in Knoxville. Welcome back, Zach.
Hey, Zach.
Dorsey in North Carolina. Hi, Doris. Hi, Dan. How are you today? Great. Well, my best of the week was hands down, the Indiana Hoosiers winning meeting, Ohio State being number one in the country, and finally getting some respect. Signetti is the greatest story in the history of college football. Well, I don't know if it's the greatest. Like, is it better than Rudy? You know, I mean, is it the great. Are they. Are they going to do a movie on Kurt Signetti? But he's done a great job. Dorsey. Just. Just adding a little levity there. Well, I got three kids that graduated from iu, so I'm obviously favored. Okay, that clears it up. That clears it up. Yeah, that does. But I want to know one thing about Notre Dame. Who was on that selection committee? And were anybody on the selection committee from the sec?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Everybody's represented. I. I just think from what I'm told, the ACC took Up about three hours. And they have too many people with too many different, Too many agendas in there. But there's going to be more that will come out here. There'll be more information about this. And was there an agenda against Notre Dame? Maybe. We'll find out.
Let's see. Mad in Nashville. Hi, Matt. What's on your mind?
Hey, Matt. Good morning. How are you? Good, sir. What's on your mind? Oh, not too much long suffering, actually. Your resident University of Virginia sports fan here got a best and worse. Gonna go ahead and rip off the band aid. Worst is what it is, man. No excuses. We lost it on field. Terrible, terrible game. Just all the way around. I told a buddy of mine the only good thing about being a Virginia football fan is you never expect to win the big game. So when you lose, it's never a shock.
On the flip side of that best, I don't know if you guys are paying attention to college basketball yet, but my Virginia Cavaliers on Saturday morning, same city, same in Charlotte, played your Dayton Flyers. And Jakari White, the seventh man off the bench, went at a stat line. He went 9 for 9 from the field, 7 for 7 from three. He is currently 13 for 13 in his last three games from three. He's got a crowd. Or me, a group of students that are called the Jacarmi. If you're not paying attention to Jakari White over Virginia, do so. Never seen a stat like stat line like that in my life, Dan. All right, well, thank you, Matt, and congratulations with your Virginia Cavaliers against my Dayton Flyers, Stephen in Bismarck, North Dakota. Hi, Steven. Hello, Dan. Second time, long time, 59165 and I'm 66 years old. I'm closer to you. Okay.
Best and worst. The best of the weekend, and this is from an NDSU fan, is that we lost our game. The worst is that Notre Dame got voted out. Here's why. Basket is North Dakota State. Losing football in all sports is a merit sport. It means the end of the game. It's no different than you losing or winning a three point contest to Fritzi, Pauli or Seaton. The score is the score. We lost the game. And as hard as it is to lose a game you lose by a score, to get beat out by a committee of some sort that goes. Has different political feelings to me is just wrong. And that's. I love sports because of. I love merit. All right, well, thank you, Stephen. All right. Getting some.
Morals there. Understanding the sportsmanship and what you know, prove it on the field. Yes, Paul, I saw Some people on social media, compared to. Imagine you're up for a job and you do the final interview, and the other person who's up for it does the final interview and they tell you a couple days before, well, it's, it's yours. We got to wait till Sunday morning to announce it, but it's yours. And nobody else has any more interaction and nobody more else has any more interviews and they give it to the other guy. That's the feel.
Yeah. You know, just as long as it, it's not transparent. I guess that's the thing that bothers Notre Dame. They just wanted to know, wait, what happened here? We didn't play. Miami didn't play. Miami's in front of us. Alabama got roughed up. They didn't drop. Like, help us understand this here. Yes. Yeah. It is weird when you look at, like, the rankings right now. Notre Dame is 11th, except that really they're not. No.
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First caller, long time list. First time caller, long time listener, 18. I'm 510, 180.
I just wanted to ask you, if we do move to a 2014 format, would there be any sort of conference tie in at all? Would we have to look at the mid majors? What would be the deal there? Once again, I don't even want to dive into that deep end of the pool because I don't know what I mean. Once again, we're dealing with a fluid topic in the College Football Playoff committee. So I don't want to throw out, you know, possible scenarios here until we get to that. And it's in the formulative stage of this where we're actually trying to do something like this. I don't, I don't want to go, well, you could have a AQ and then you could have the highest and that, you know, then all of a sudden that's not good radio. But I do think if we got to make the bowl games mean something, the players will play in those bowl games if it means that they're in the playoffs. But I don't even know the other bowl games won't matter for a lot of these kids. They. I just worry that these bowl games will become obsolete. And that's why I'm saying, why not do something like college basketball does, and they have these matchups. It'll be the Big Ten in SEC and they'll meet at the Garden or they'll meet in random sites. Okay. Nothing's really accomplished there. But if it means I can have the Rose bowl and you're going to have Oregon play, throw out a team at Miami and they're going to play in the Rose bowl, and that's the Rose bowl. And you get a good matchup against two teams that wouldn't normally play each other. That's what we want. We don't want these games where you go, who are you playing? You know, we're playing Tennessee Valley State University, you know, Northeast. It doesn't help. Now, it helps those schools because that's their big payday. But we're talking about big boy football here and a lot of money at stake. So play quality opponents here. Yes, Marvin. Yeah, and a lot of those smaller bowls, you can just turn it into the Pop Tart. Classic, the Pinstripe Classic. You have to put even a bowl and you just have two pretty good teams just play each other. Let's see. Ted in Nevada. Hi, Ted. Hey, dad. How you doing this morning? Hey, quickly, with the whole Notre Dame, Miami.
Does anybody really think that Alabama, with one more loss than either one of those two teams, should be in the playoff? You can argue all day long, who had the better loss, who had the better schedule, who had, it's another loss, one more than the other two teams. What is, why are we playing the games if wins and losses don't matter?
These are all good topics. They're relevant topics. And it becomes, we don't know what goes on behind those closed doors. I mean, I, I'd love to make it transparent, but it's never going to happen. But, you know, you're just trying to understand exactly what is, what are their formulas for this. Just help us understand that. I mean, I don't think any of us have a problem if we at least understand what the rules of the game. You can't play Monopoly, but you're, you know, using Chutes and Ladders rules. Like, it doesn't make sense here. And it feels like college football is shoots and ladders. It's like, wait a minute, how did we end up down there? And how did they end up up there?
Paul in North Dakota. Hi, Paul. What's on your mind?
Hey, Dan. This is Paul and Bozeman, actually, first time caller, longtime listener since the Dibble and Salisbury days. Best of the weekend, Montana State Bobcats over Yale in the FCS playoffs. I don't know why FBS can't go to fcs. Other best, North Dakota State, South Dakota State going down, which means there's going to be a new champion. Yeah. And another best. I'm sitting here, the new member, D.C. nation, 12.6 pound fox, red Labrador, 8 week old. Thank you, Paul. How's it going, baby? Good luck. Good luck. We got a onesie for your, your dog Brian in Indiana. Hi, Brian. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. Hey, I'm just calling in. This is a 59162, retired, looking over the lake right now.
I think the elephant in the room is Alabama. And part that's the pun on the whole thing, too.
They lost to Florida State early in the year and nobody's factoring that in. They're sitting there saying Notre Dame, you know, and lost to Miami and that's why they're out. And they lost two games by a total of four points, yet Alabama Got hammered by Florida State. They lost at home to Oklahoma, and they look terrible in the championship game. And they are the elephant in the room as far as I'm concerned. All right. Thank you, Brian. Yeah, all I can go on is, you know, last week, a week ago at this time, and that's when my college source said, you know, the Alabama placement is. Is. Drew his attention because he said it feels like they're setting Notre Dame up to be disappointed. Those were his words. And he's a great college source. Here, Josh in Iowa. Josh, what's on your mind? Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Shout out to the guy who repped his dog just a second ago.
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Thank you. Best and worse. I got a best, which is the annual snow game in Buffalo. I always love those games. Worst of the weekend is we still suffering Snowmageddon here in Iowa. A lot of hurtbacks around here. Thanks for having me, guys. Bye, Paulie. This day in sports history. I just got one for you, Dan. Tom King of England won over John Heenan of America in 1863 to be the first world heavyweight champion. Never heard that before. Okay. Earl Campbell won the Heisman on this date, 1977. Kyler Murray, friend of the show, won the Heisman on this day, 2018. That career in Arizona is over. It feels like a healthy scratch for the rest of the season for Kyler Murray. All right, Todd, what'd you learn today? Rick Neuheisel thinks the selection committee teased Notre Dame for too long, ranking them ahead of Miami until the last possible moment. Seaton, what'd you learn today? Permanent damage. Irreparable. Yeah. Marvin, you owe Pritz, you owe Fritzi a pie, and I owe Pitsy of Fry. Paulie, what did you learn? The best bowl game would be Notre Dame versus the acc. Todd, what did I learn? Notre Dame ADP Bavaka says the relationship between Notre Dame and ACC has now been strained. Have a great day, everybody. We look forward to chatting with you tomorrow. Streaming December 11th. It's the new limited series, Little Disasters. Happy families. Perfect marriage. What happened? Social services have been called in. I've known you for 10 years. How could you make that call? These rich families. Concealing things seems to come naturally. Starring Diane Kruger. You can't take our children and Joe Joyner. Parents can do some terrible things in moments of frustration. Little Disasters. All episodes streaming December 11th on Paramount. Sometimes you just need to be comfortable, you know? But that doesn't mean you don't want to look good, too. Well, Old Navy the kings of cozy have done it again with Bounce Fleece. It's soft, stylish, and comes in elevated colors that look good anywhere. Basically, it's fleece reimagined for real life, made for moments when you want to be cozy but still need to look good. Call it airport chic, call it errant elegance. Either way, Bounce Fleece nails it. Find Bounce Fleece and other holiday goodies now@oldnavy.com.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Rick Neuheisel, Notre Dame Snub
Date: December 8, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Notable Guests: Rick Neuheisel (CBS College Football Analyst), Pete Bevacqua (Notre Dame Athletic Director)
This episode dives deep into the controversy surrounding Notre Dame's exclusion from the College Football Playoff (CFP), examines broader issues around bowl games and playoff expansion, and features incisive perspectives from CBS analyst Rick Neuheisel and Notre Dame AD Pete Bevacqua. The conversation also touches on shifting power dynamics in college football, fan reactions, and future changes for the sport.
Dan and the Danettes (his co-hosts) facilitate a lively, open discussion, mixing in listener calls and their trademark humor and candor.
“For six weeks we were told that Notre Dame was better than Miami…to do it for six weeks and then choose the week after neither one played to make the adjustment, that to me is time for a change.” – Rick Neuheisel (08:07)
“I think bowl games are going to end up being the first game of the year.” – Rick Neuheisel (09:05)
“These shows to me ought to be one show, the last one…They don’t do a very good job explaining themselves.” – Rick Neuheisel (11:09)
“Let’s just stop and admire the work done. It is phenomenal…it is out of this world.” – Rick Neuheisel (12:55)
“It is the dumbest thing in the world, but it generates money. And that’s all they care about. That’s all the playoff is about.” – Dan Patrick (32:50)
“They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and Notre Dame.” – Pete Bevacqua (24:54)
“We can’t imagine taking the field not as that team…It just wouldn’t be the same.” – Pete Bevacqua (26:43)
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Pete Bevacqua (Notre Dame AD):
If you missed this hour, you missed an unflinching look at college football’s current chaos, especially the fallout from Notre Dame’s playoff snub. Dan Patrick and his guests dissect how financial interests are undermining tradition and transparency, why playoff expansion seems inevitable, and how relationships between programs and conferences are being reshaped in real time. Notably, Notre Dame's AD shares the program’s emotional response to exclusion and details the reasons behind skipping their bowl game, reinforcing the need for reform.
This episode is essential listening for anyone trying to understand the crossroads at which college football finds itself in 2025.