Hour 3 – Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Heidi Gardner

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show Episode: Hour 3 – Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Heidi Gardner Release Date: February 13, 2025

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees Discussion

[03:05 – 14:50]

In this segment, Dan Patrick and his co-hosts delve into the contentious subject of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees. The discussion opens with Dan expressing his reluctance to critique potential inductees but proceeds to offer his candid opinions on several nominees.

• Nominee Opinions:

  • Joy Division & New Order: Dan admits unfamiliarity, stating, “I’m not really aware of Joy Division. I probably would be, you know, if I googled them” ([10:00]). His co-host Seaton counters by highlighting their influence, noting, “Joy Division and New Order spawned, like, the Cure” ([11:33]).
  • Bad Company: Dan acknowledges their success despite mixed personal preferences, “I love Bad Company. Paul Rogers is great” ([15:40]).
  • Mariah Carey: Seaton champions her inclusion, and the group agrees, with Dan affirming, “They should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” ([15:13]).
  • Oasis & Outkast: The conversation touches on Oasis’s significant impact, though with some skepticism about their longevity compared to legends like The Beatles. Outkast’s legacy is debated, with Dan joking, “Outcast is your halftime entertainment” ([12:54]).
  • Soundgarden vs. Sonic Youth: The hosts discuss the early grunge influence of Soundgarden, with Seaton preferring Sonic Youth for their avant-garde approach ([13:32]).
  • The White Stripes: Celebrated for their hit “Seven Nation Army,” the group acknowledges the song’s ubiquitous presence in sporting events ([13:53]).

• Audience Poll:

  • The show includes a poll asking listeners whether they would prefer to spend six years in the NFL or six years on Saturday Night Live. Initial results show a split ([42:52]), reflecting the diverse interests of the audience.

Anecdotes and Reflections on Saturday Night Live

[03:05 – 32:21]

Dan Patrick reminisces about his near involvement with Saturday Night Live in the mid-1990s, sharing humorous and insightful stories about the show's behind-the-scenes dynamics.

• Potential Hosting Gig:

  • Dan reveals, “Someone was broached with the topic of Keith Olbermann and myself hosting Saturday Night Live” ([03:05]). However, the role ultimately went to Fred Armisen, leaving Dan with fond memories but no official participation.

• Personal Connections:

  • He shares his friendship with Bill Murray, recounting a memorable night in Greenwich Village that nearly turned chaotic: “He almost got in a fight that night” ([07:04]).
  • Dan also discusses encounters with other SNL legends like Jim Carrey and Chevy Chase, illustrating the camaraderie and challenges within the SNL community.

• Historic SNL Sketches:

  • The hosts debate the most viewed SNL skits on YouTube, mentioning classics like “Wayne’s World” and more recent hits such as Amy Schumer’s provocative teacher sketch. Dan muses, “Amy Schumer is really funny” ([07:54]).
  • Seaton nostalgically recalls a Phil Hartman sketch: “He was so funny” ([08:00]), highlighting the timeless appeal of certain SNL characters and performances.

Phone Calls and Listener Interactions

[17:31 – 46:22]

Dan Patrick opens the lines to engage with listeners, who share personal stories and seek advice on various topics.

• Relationship Advice:

  • A caller named Andy from Rhode Island discusses marital struggles, particularly regarding his partner's lack of romantic gestures. Dan empathizes, offering a humorous yet supportive response: “Do I have to send a hug via FedEx to you?” ([22:06]).

• SNL and Movie Inquiries:

  • Kenny from Indiana inquires about the possibility of a “Grown Ups 3,” to which Dan explains the uncertainty surrounding Adam Sandler’s upcoming projects ([35:09]).

• Music and Pop Culture Queries:

  • Listeners like Brett from California and Tammy from Arkansas contribute to the dialogue, reflecting on popular SNL sketches and personal celebrations, such as a sister’s 60th birthday.

Interview with Heidi Gardner

[25:21 – 35:40]

The highlight of the episode is an engaging interview with Heidi Gardner, a cast member of Saturday Night Live and a fervent Kansas City Chiefs fan.

• Chiefs Fandom:

  • Heidi shares her deep-rooted passion for the Chiefs, mentioning, “I have to always give them love and hope us into a win” ([26:47]). She expresses frustration over critics questioning Patrick Mahomes’ legacy, clashing with the narrative that the Chiefs aimed for a three-peat ([26:45]).

• Career Insights:

  • Reflecting on her journey, Heidi discusses her audition experience for SNL, detailing her first and second auditions with humor and humility: “I put a picture of LeBron and Michael Jordan on my phone” ([31:01]).
  • She explores the parallels between performing live on SNL and the competitive nature of sports, noting, “What would Mahomes do? He would play” ([28:29]).

• Personal Anecdotes:

  • Heidi reveals her interactions with Taylor Swift before Swift became a Chiefs fan, hoping to reconnect over their mutual love for the team ([27:45]).

• Future Endeavors:

  • She discusses her aspirations for future roles in movies or television series, hinting at potential collaborations and expressing interest in projects that allow her to create meaningful content ([35:01]).

• Humorous Moments:

  • The conversation lightens as Heidi recounts how far she got in her auditions and the unexpected twists, such as stepping on the SNL stage during her first try ([31:01]).

Rhyme Time Segment

[38:34 – 43:37]

A lively and entertaining segment where Dan Patrick, along with co-hosts Todd and Seaton, engage in a rhyming game known as "Rhyme Time."

• Gameplay Mechanics:

  • Todd explains the rules: “I’m going to give you two clues, and the answers are words that rhyme with one another” ([38:44]).

• Examples and Participation:

  • The trio showcases quick wit and humor, providing rhyming pairs such as “snug hug” ([38:58]) and “kitten smitten” ([39:20]).
  • They tackle humorous and challenging prompts like “boxes and briefs” paired with “underwear affair” ([39:36]) and “laryngitis” with “intimate relations” ([40:56]).

• Audience Engagement:

  • The segment involves playful banter and friendly competition, illustrating the hosts’ chemistry and ability to entertain through spontaneous wordplay.

Poll Results and Final Thoughts

[42:52 – 46:44]

Dan Patrick reviews the outcomes of the audience polls and shares concluding insights with his listeners.

• Poll Outcomes:

  • The choice between spending six years in the NFL versus six years on SNL remains evenly split, indicating diverse listener preferences ([42:52]).
  • In the poll regarding the greatest SNL cast member, Eddie Murphy emerges as the front-runner, closely followed by Chris Farley and Will Ferrell. Adam Sandler trails in last place, confirming Dan’s belief that his tenure on SNL was less impactful ([43:20] – [43:37]).

• Closing Reflections:

  • The hosts reflect on memorable moments and interactions from the show, ensuring listeners are informed about upcoming vacations and teased segments.
  • Dan wraps up by summarizing key takeaways from the episode, humorously referencing the segment highlights: “Heidi Gardner has a Patrick Mahomes attitude when she's thrown into a sketch” ([46:12]).

Key Quotes

• Dan Patrick on SNL Opportunities:

  • “I was telling you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink” ([21:11]).

• Heidi Gardner on Chiefs Fandom:

  • “I am in a mood where I am very fortunate and blessed. We won two years in a row” ([25:38]).
  • “My job as a Chiefs fan is just to give them love and hope” ([26:47]).

• Rhyme Time Highlights:

  • “Boxes and briefs, cheating would be an underwear affair” ([39:36]).
  • “Horse intercourse” ([41:13]).

Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show masterfully intertwines discussions on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees with nostalgic reflections on Saturday Night Live, enriched by engaging listener interactions and a spirited Rhyme Time segment. The interview with Heidi Gardner adds depth, offering insights into her life as an SNL cast member and a dedicated Chiefs supporter. Throughout the hour, the show balances humor, personal anecdotes, and thoughtful debates, ensuring a captivating experience for both regular listeners and newcomers.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour, final hour on this Thursday. Dan and the Dan. It's Dan Patrick show. We're off tomorrow. And I decided we would have a meet Thursday. So Tyler fired up the Traegers. We have smoked ribeyes and salt crusted, loaded baked potatoes. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. All righty. Final hour on this Thursday. Yeah. All right, what's the poll question? Are we going to stay with six years in the NFL or six years on Saturday Night Live? Is that what we're going to stay with, Seaton?

[Seaton]

Yeah, we're going to put that one up there.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, I'll take six years in the NFL. But being a cast member now, I don't know if this is true or not. And I, I'm going to be guilty of hyperbole here, but all I can tell you is what I was told back in the 90s, mid-90s, that someone was broached with the topic of Keith Olbermann and myself hosting Saturday Night Live. Now, this is Mid-90s Peak Sports Center. And all I know is that I was told by somebody who's affiliated with Saturday Night Live, I don't know anybody on there that I could have asked to say, was that really true? I know some people who work behind the scenes there, and one of those people said that, yes, they had heard that. Whether it's true or not, I have no idea. But if, if we were on the discussion to be on there, that's all, you know, awesome. Even if we weren't on the list of possible co hosts or whatever, I was going to be on an episode, a skit, and I was going to be in the building for football night in America. And I remember they said, hey, how about Dan Patrick be in this skit? So I waited for the call, and then Fred Armiston sat in in my place on the skit. I don't even know what the skit was. I was just told, hey, are you available to be in a skit on Saturday Night Live? And I'm like, yes. Yeah, I'll, I'll be there in a second. And turns out Fred Armisen. So that's as close as I ever got. Although I did go to Saturday Night Live and I met Jim Carrey when he was hosting, and that was pretty cool. And I went to a rehearsal. See the rehearsal, they have a lot more skits and, you know, it's, it's looser. And you could see if a skit's gonna make it to the live version. But I haven't been to a live version of Saturday Night Live, but I think we've all grown up with it, you know, going back to the original. And I think that that's, you know, you get hooked on that with Belushi and Bill Murray, certainly with Dan Aykroyd, Chevy Chase, Gilda Radder. I mean, the originals, wonderful casting there. Lorraine Newman, but, you know, it's hit and miss sometimes. There are times when you're watching and you're going, that skit's not funny. Or it goes long, or there's one that you go, you know, that's going to stay with you. Here's, here's, here's a question for you. The most viewed skipped on Saturday Night Live in history. Okay. This isn't your favorite. This is the skit that has been viewed the most, I believe, on YouTube. Todd, you have a guess.

[Todd]

I'm going to say the Richard Pryor car, not Carrie the Exorcist with Richard Pryor and like she's pretending to be possessed. I think, I think it's Lorraine Newman is the one that's pretending to be possessed by the devil.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. That's a long, long time ago. 70s.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Seaton, do you have a skit that you think is the most watched Saturday Night live skit on YouTube?

[Seaton]

Oh, man. Could be Wayne's World.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

Could be the church lady. Okay, I'm gonna say Wayne's World.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Marvin, the Will Ferrell cowbell. All right.

[Seaton]

Oh, that's a good one, Paul.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna go. Recent. Last year, Nate Barghazi, the comedian was Washington's dream. I can't wake up without seeing that one online. Washington's dream. Yep. He was, he was doing a thing about the history of America. It's really funny. Okay. From what I was told, sources close to me, the number one viewed skit, Amy Schumer, when she plays like she has a. She's a teacher and she's a sexed up teacher and she's kind. I think she's a porn star teacher. And so everything is sexual innuendo. But I think that's the most viewed Saturday Night Live skit. I never would have thought that. And I, I had never seen it before until I heard it and then I went and watched it. It's never as good as what you think it is when you're watching it in the moment, but it was still funny because Amy Schumer is really funny. But. Yeah, I don't know the exact title of it, but I think she she got a very revealing top on, and everything is sexual. When you end up. Todd, you'd love it.

[Todd]

You know, that sounds like a great skit.

[Dan Patrick]

Of course. Yes.

[Seaton]

My favorite skit. I don't really know why, but it's always been my favorite skit. Phil Hartman is in it.

[Dan Patrick]

Who?

[Seaton]

God, man. That dude is just. He was so funny. And Dana Carvey plays a, like, pop star who's got, I think, writer's block. And he's going into this meeting with his label to see what his new song is going to be, and he's just making it up on the spot. And he's like, you know, my lady went downtown, she bought some broccoli, she brought it home, and he sings a song about this lady chopping broccoli. And Phil Hartman, he's just eating it up. Like, God, it's so good. It's just so good. What a genius he is. It's the dumbest skit. It's the easiest joke in the world, but, man, is it so funny.

[Dan Patrick]

I would say the Samurai with Belushi.

[Seaton]

Cheeseburger. Cheeseburger.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. That was. That was great. And then you hear the stories. So when I did football night in America for a couple years, we were doing it on the same floors, Saturday Night Live. And I would always go back. One of my, you know, my dressing room was the main dressing room for the host who would be there on Saturday Night Live. So it would be after Saturday Night Live, we would be there on Sunday. So I'd always be curious what, you know, they host. The guest host would leave in the dressing room. And, you know, there was always a few, you know, interesting things that were left in there. But there's so much history in there that that's where they all were. And then you hear the stories that they would hide drugs in the ceilings. So Dan Aykroyd was talking about how, you know, they were hiding drugs up in the. You know, those. The little cutout ceilings there. You push them up, you could, you know, store stuff. And they were hiding drugs from one another because they didn't want them stolen by somebody else. Just trying to survive that. And Chevy Chase was there one year, I believe, and then he decided to make movies. And then all of a sudden, it became kind of Bill Murray Ackroyd and Gilda Radner. And, you know, just so fast forward to early 90s. You know, I. I strike up a friendship with Bill Murray, and, you know, you're. I'm walking down the street in the. In Greenwich Village with Bill Murray and realizing that, you know, he watches SportsCenter and he wanted to talk and we went out, we had dinner, we did a pub crawl, A to Z pub crawl. We got in a street cleaner. We were going to drive it off. He almost got in a fight that night, you know, so you're like, what am I doing here? You know? But that's a normal day for Bill. We did a pub crawl, A to Z. Now, we only made it to, I think Letter J before all hell broke loose, but yeah, I mean, and then, you know, we're in Toronto for a movie with Sandler and Ackroyd is there and Sandler goes to Aykroyd. Danny, tell them all the stories. Go ahead, guys, ask him all that. So we're asking all these questions about Saturday Night Live and he was very forthcoming with that. So Saturday Night Live coming up this weekend, 50th anniversary. So we'll talk to Heidi Gardner, who's part of this, the current crew, and Show John is coming up here in a little bit. All right. When we left off last hour, we were talking about the Rock and Roll hall of Fame nominees. We went through some of them. I hate doing this where you say somebody shouldn't be a Hall of Famer, but if you're asking me that, then I'll give you my honest opinion. And, you know, Joy Division. I'm not really aware of Joy Division. I probably would be, you know, if I googled them. But sure, I.

[Seaton]

You know, it's kind of like Joy Division and New Order spawned, like, the Cure.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

You know, sort of like that. Like Depeche Mode, maybe a lot of those. Sort of gothy pop, goth, kind of.

[Dan Patrick]

Who else is on that list?

[Seaton]

Let's see, so far we've mentioned Bad Company, the Black Crows, Mariah Carey, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Billy Idol, Joy Division and New Order. Cyndi Lauper. This band I'm not familiar with, so I apologize if I'm mispronouncing it, but I believe they're called Mana.

[Dan Patrick]

They are huge.

[Seaton]

Massive, huge, huge.

[Dan Patrick]

Huge in Mexico.

[Seaton]

Yes. They're a massive Mexican band and they.

[Dan Patrick]

Should be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Seaton]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, they. They are huge.

[Seaton]

Next on the list is Oasis.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

I mean, clearly.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, just to hear their speech.

[Seaton]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

See them.

[Dan Patrick]

How many original albums did Oasis make? I. That one was huge. Did they do a follow up?

[Seaton]

Yeah, they had a bunch.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

Yeah, they had a bunch that did really well.

[Dan Patrick]

They were bigger than the Beatles. They just asked them you do, you.

[Seaton]

Know, you can ask English people, too. And they would put Oasis ahead of the Beatles.

[Dan Patrick]

Now, these are people who don't know music.

[Seaton]

Yeah, obviously. What are the English know exactly. Um, how about after Oasis we have Outcast? I think this is Outcast. Maybe second time on that list, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Sure. This is what I would hope is the super bowl in Atlanta. 2028. Outcast. Outcast is your halftime entertainment. I'll just throw that out. All right. Okay. Anything else?

[Seaton]

Fish is on the. The super group from Vermont.

[Dan Patrick]

They.

[Seaton]

I would say, absolutely. Because they never had a true hit. They never had any real radio play. They never had any real, like, commercial support at all. And somehow were one of the biggest touring acts of all time, it seems like. Okay, that's pretty great.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

Soundgarden, one of the early sort of grunge, ish bands. Before there was grunge, there was Soundgarden.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know enough about them. Except for what, Chris Cornell.

[Seaton]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

But I don't know enough of their music.

[Seaton]

Yeah, I would say probably no.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but okay, more influential. Sonic Youth or Soundgarden, for me?

[Seaton]

Sonic Youth.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. For sure. Yeah.

[Seaton]

I'm just curious, then. The last on the list is the White Stripes, which I would say just based on seven Nation Army. Absolutely. Because you have not been able to go to a sporting event, whether it's high school, all the way up to the biggest game in the world without hearing just that one song alone.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

And how it's hit, like, Critical Mass. Absolutely.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. The whole thing, the way they dressed. And was it his sister? Was it his wife? So there was always mystery there with him. But he's still, like. He has all these. The raconteurs. And he's got a couple of different bands that he performs under. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Rock and Roll hall of Fame. I think they can take six Jeepers Creepers.

[Seaton]

Six from that list.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's six. I think six is the max. How about you pick one? Seton, I'll start with you. The one Rock and Roll hall of Fame nominee is.

[Seaton]

Man, why do you have to do that? I would. I guess I'm gonna go Mariah Carey.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I would.

[Seaton]

I would put her in first.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, how about you?

[Todd]

Yeah, I guess Mariah from that group. And I couldn't name a couple songs from some of the other ones anyway.

[Seaton]

Can I change mine?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you can, Mark. I'm gonna go with Fish. What?

[Todd]

So, because I worked at a boxing match in the theater of Madison Square Garden, New Year's Eve, one Year and above the main garden.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd]

Fish performed for about 12 nights in a row.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I'm sorry.

[Todd]

You're in.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Paulie. I think I go Bad Company. I'm not the biggest fan but I'm aware of them and they had a heck of a run. It almost feels like they should have been in before. I love Bad Company. Paul Rogers is a great. He also performed I think with Queen after Freddie had died and they went out on tour and they had Paul Rogers. I think Adam Lambert is touring with them or had toured with him. But Paul Rogers, he wasn't he in free. Didn't he do All Right Now? Yeah, I think Paul Rogers did that. Great. Great voice.

[Seaton]

King Crimson.

[Dan Patrick]

King Crimson.

[Seaton]

Were they. Isn't it? I. I feel like Bad Company has links to a lot of different bands.

[Dan Patrick]

I think because of Paul Rogers.

[Seaton]

Not the Poople or whatever.

[Dan Patrick]

Not the Hoople. Not the Poople.

[Seaton]

I said Hoople.

[Dan Patrick]

Sorry.

[Seaton]

Not the Poople.

[Dan Patrick]

But Motha Hoople. Their biggest song. David Bowie wrote All the Young Dudes. I don't know if you can name the next Matthew Hoople song. It's one of my favorite games with one hit. All the Young Dudes 2. It's a great song, but I think David wrote it for Monte Hoople. All right, let me take a break. Get some phone calls. Coming up. But I hate when you know this. This goes. This is just like the Sports hall of Fame. When you go, no. Yeah. No. Like these people all had great careers. But you know, you got to have a really definitive opinion on them. You know, it's a hard answer there of yes or no. Although we don't do that with rock and roll artists, do we? Like is it yes or no? But we'll do that with, you know, Jim Plunkett. Yes or no? Yes. Marvin. Because music is so subjective.

[Todd]

Like if I start trouble right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Say Outkast is the greatest rap group ever. People are going to be upset about that because it's all subjective. So that's the difference between music and sports. Like somebody averages 30 points a game for their career. No one's going to say I'm not sure. Like that's a no brainer. Is Outkast the greatest rap group of all time? Yes. Wow. Todd might disagree.

[Todd]

I'm all about Run dmc.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

You know, they actually have that almost like that sports analogy too where you can't go into a lot of stadiums without hearing hey Ya playing. Or at least for a period of time. That was like a massive anthem that Outkast.

[Bobby Bones]

Had.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say With Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the. The heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink.

[Dan Patrick]

There was something sentimental when you. Like, when. When you send it, you're like, do I send the heart now?

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[Dan Patrick]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Dan Patrick]

Couple of phone calls, then we'll talk to Heidi Gardner. Saturday Night live. Comedian, actress, 50th, 50th anniversary coming up this weekend, Andy in Rhode Island. Hi, Andy. What's on your mind today? Good morning, Dan. Dan. I hope y'all again, gearing up, ready for your vacation as long overdue, and I hope you all enjoy it. Dan, I need answers from Fritzi because I feel like he's mailing it in. He's not. He's not taking cues from his wife. And it's a bit concerning because for a guy that put in so much effort to get on his knee on Christmas Eve. What's going on, Fritzi? Dude, are you not getting enough love? Do I have to send a hug via FedEx to you? Thank you, Andy.

[Todd]

The problem is every time I try to do anything remotely romantic, she's just not. Doesn't receive it very well. I already have this. You got me something similar to that in earrings. I don't. We're spending so much money on college and everything. I don't want. I don't want anything. I don't need anything. She's made it clear for years now. Just kind of let her watch her Real Housewives and leave her alone. And maybe we can bring in food. We don't have to go out to dinner. We're like an old couple. We're living like we're 90. Just bring in some pizza. I'm fine, really. That's what we're doing. I can't get you like earrings or a bracelet or a neck? Because I got plenty of jewelry. I got the emerald thing, the diamond thing, the pearl thing. We're fine.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, boy. Poor guy, man. Feel for you.

[Todd]

Shuts me down.

[Dan Patrick]

Al in California. Hi, Al J. Hey, Jay Z. Pandora.

[Seaton]

Shout out Pandora.

[Dan Patrick]

BP I'm going to get to it very quickly. I have a quick game of what do these dudes have in common. I also wanted to have a quick old out there. Hot poll talk is Jalen Hurts a top five quarterback. That's for another day. You know, I brought it up. Is he going to be viewed as an elite quarterback? If you want to put him in the top five, fine. Just tell me who you're taking out. Like I'm fine with it. I mean, Joe Burrow's in there, Mahomes is in there, Josh Allen in there, Lamar Jackson and Jalen hurts. Okay. Like I can't argue with the postseason. Regular season. Yeah, probably not a top five. But in, in the big games, he comes up big. Let me see. Tammy in California. Hi, Tammy. What's on your mind? Hi, Dan Patrick. Love your show. Thank you. Tammy. First time caller 185, nine. My sister turned 60 today. She's in Vegas. She's listening to it on the radio. Can I get a shout out from you and from you and the Dennis and what's her name? Tammy. Her name is dawn and Vegas Don Don.

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[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Of course. Of course. She's older than you. How about we give dawn in Vegas a happy birthday. Thank you, Tammy. Todd will have your rhyme. She's gonna love it. Yeah, she will. She will. Get your rhyme time ready for maybe after Heidi Garbage just got a rhyme time tweet. We did.

[Todd]

Yeah. If it don't fit, you must acquit NBA's Kevin from CSM a tweeter of the show.

[Dan Patrick]

So glove Love, love, love.

[Todd]

They're playing along at home. Got the home game version.

[Dan Patrick]

Heidi Gardner, she's a Saturday Night Live cast member and a die hard Chiefs fan. The SNL 50th anniversary special Sunday at 8 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, Heidi is also in the Apple TV comedy Shrinking Plays the character Grace. Harrison Ford and Jason Siegel are in that. Heidi joins us now when I told Fritzi to reach out and have you join us. This was before the super bowl and I know you're a big Chiefs fan and we thought you were going to be in a great mood. So what kind of mood are you in?

[Heidi Gardner]

Okay. I am in a mood where I am very fortunate and blessed. We won two years in a row. We've won three times in the last six years. Very lucky. Sunday was really hard. I love the Chiefs. The only thing I'm upset about are some of these false narratives after the fact that, you know, like Mahomes legacy is questioned. Like that is crazy to me. The fact that some people are saying that the Chiefs had already copyrighted three peat and that was like the motivation for the Eagles. Like, I love bulletin board material. We use it. But I can assure you all season there was no Chief or Coach Reed that was saying anything about 3 Pete. I feel like they were trying to ignore that noise. Of course it's in your head. And I just want to say at the beginning of the season, a lot of people were talking smack on the Eagles and that they had lost it. They were talking this last year, they were talking it on Jalen Hurts. And now it's just like they were always the inevitable team. I'm just a little frustrated and I needed to get all that out.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you cry Sunday?

[Heidi Gardner]

No, I didn't cry. I think my job as a Chiefs fan is just to give them love and hope. And I just continued to try and love and hope us into a win and it didn't happen. And I love them all the same.

[Dan Patrick]

When did you begin your love affair with the Kansas City Chiefs? Growing up in Kansas City.

[Heidi Gardner]

Yeah. So I was born there, so it was faded. But my mom has just always been a sports fan and it was probably like around five and a half or six years old. I just accepted that on Sundays we were going to be watching football like that. And I needed to embrace that because I loved my mom and that was the thing that I needed to learn how to love, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But this fandom, though, now it's with you the rest of your life?

[Heidi Gardner]

Oh, yeah. And I still consider it a blessing, even though it. It takes over my Persona and my anxiety quite, quite a bit. But I love it.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you talk to Taylor Swift when she was on Saturday Night Live?

[Heidi Gardner]

Well, so I had talked to her pre her becoming a Chiefs fan. So I haven't gotten to connect with her since, but I would love to talk Chiefs with her.

[Dan Patrick]

Feels like it's inevitable her and Travis are going to get engaged. I mean, I love love. I'm rooting for love is what I'm rooting for.

[Heidi Gardner]

Me too. I'm rooting for love. I was scared in the beginning because, like, as a fan first, like, I love both those people, but I was like, is this going to Be a distraction. But it's been all good. And I love love, and I love that, like, she's brought even more eyes on our team.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you a competitor the way an athlete is with whatever roles you have on SNL or when you're, you know, doing other shows?

[Heidi Gardner]

For sure. I mean, I always say that I played sports growing up, and the only. One of the only reasons I wish I would have continued on is because I wish I had, like, the total discipline of an athlete. But I will say, recently at work, there's a few times when I've gotten thrown things where I have to go perform with no rehearsal. And that is scary. I mean, it's live anyways. But if I haven't had a rehearsal and they're just like, you're in this now or you're doing this now. And I'm like, oh, you know, I want to come back and be like, we didn't even do a rewrite or, we didn't do this. And I just think to myself, what would Mahomes do? He would play. So that's what I do.

[Dan Patrick]

Heidi Gardner, Saturday Night Live cast member so it's actress, comedian, writer, Die Hard Chiefsman. Is that the order?

[Heidi Gardner]

Yes. I mean, you can always move Die Hard two spin to the top. That is, like, the thing that has stayed consistent.

[Dan Patrick]

That's probably my number one 50th anniversary special. Sunday, February 16th at 8 Eastern. That'll be NBC And Peacock. Also, you play Grace in the Apple TV shrinking. Didn't you push your boyfriend off a cliff?

[Heidi Gardner]

I did.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. How was that?

[Heidi Gardner]

It felt good. He was a jerk.

[Dan Patrick]

He had it coming.

[Heidi Gardner]

Yes, he had it coming.

[Dan Patrick]

What was the first sketch you did where you go, oh, oh, in a good way, or oh, in a bad way?

[Heidi Gardner]

Oh, in a good way? Was I did a Weekend Update and the character was every boxer's girlfriend from every movie about boxing ever. And that one just connected with the audience. And I think people were like, oh, yeah, that's a trope. I see the girlfriend in a boxing movie or the wife always has the exact same script. Yeah. And that. And I just. I got a lot of feedback. And that's the first time I started. Like, people would recognize me and they would say, like a catchphrase, and I'm like.

[Dan Patrick]

They'd go, I'm going to my sisters.

[Heidi Gardner]

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Is that like you walk in the streets of New York, what do you get?

[Heidi Gardner]

I get that. You know what's cool is, I think because SNL is such an institution here, and it's been around for so long, it feels like a sports team. So people. New Yorkers, actually, instead of, like, necessarily calling out a sketch or anything, they just are like, go, Heidi, go. Like, I'm a Yankee or something.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm like, cool.

[Heidi Gardner]

I'm on the team.

[Dan Patrick]

What was your dress for? What? Your audition.

[Heidi Gardner]

Like, oh, my gosh. Well, it was on. I just feel like I have to relate everything to sports. You're not pushing me to do that. But it was on August 23rd, so I put a picture of LeBron and Michael Jordan on my phone to just be, like, 23. Greatness. So I remember that from it. And then it was five minutes, and I think I did about 12 characters because I wanted to be undeniable. I wanted to give them everything I had. But it was also my first time ever seeing that SNL stage in person. So I was also just like. I stepped on it, and I wanted to be like, can I take a selfie? And they were like, and Your audition is 5, 4, 3. And then suddenly it was happening. So I kind of blacked out. And then a week later, they called and they said, we want her to come back. I blacked out, but I did the audition. They said, we wanted to come back and do the audition. Another audition, but this time it has to be a totally new one. We want to see if she can create material in a week. And I was like, I gave you my stars. And so my second audition was me rifling through old sketches and characters. And I always say my second audition was me playing my bench. And then I won the game. It was cool.

[Dan Patrick]

Sandler and Will Ferrell, you know, they talk about how, like, it's kind of cold in there, you know, in a variety of ways where, you know, there's no ambiance, really. Like, Lauren can be out there, and you only know if he's. There's no reaction or any. Like, how do you know when you're doing well in. In your audition?

[Heidi Gardner]

I. I actually think it's the type of person you are, possibly. I mean, I did hear laughs. I don't know if I heard Lauren's laugh, but, like, it's warm enough where. I mean, anybody who's auditioning is funny, and I think you're gonna hear some laughs, but you don't know, you know, if it's enough laughs to get the job. I remember leaving the audition and having the anxiety start to set in, and there were a couple guys outside who had also just auditioned, and they approached me, and they were like, so did you kill it? And I was like, I don't. I. I don't know. Did you? And they were like, yeah, I think so. So I was like, okay. I think it's just who you are. It's like you might have that inner confidence.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, give me your ideal. I'm gonna let you create your own show from the standpoint of your guest host is going to be. And your musical guest will be who? You can pick anybody.

[Heidi Gardner]

Ooh, okay. My guest host. I mean, I have. I do want. I got Travis Kelce. I want Mahomes. I want Mahomes. Or I want LeBron. Two debatable goats. But, you know, those are ones that I really want. And then music wise, I mean, I really liked the Kendrick halftime show. I'd love to see him do whatever he wants on SNL as well.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, who do you think had a worst night, Mahomes or Drake?

[Heidi Gardner]

Drake. I think that was.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that was pretty bad. That's pretty bad when the entire crowd is singing a song that's about you. And he went as far away as possible. He went to Australia. Yes.

[Heidi Gardner]

Yes. Yeah. But again, Mahomes, really, you know, his tweet after. He likes to win, so, I mean, he. I feel his pain too.

[Dan Patrick]

Keep your head up, though, Heidi. I hope some things good are coming your way.

[Heidi Gardner]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, you know, the Chief's losing, so I hope something, you know, good happens here.

[Heidi Gardner]

Thank you. If life works that way, then, you know, maybe a big movie or TV show is coming my way.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you have a big movie coming your way?

[Heidi Gardner]

No, but I'm looking for one. Or just some sort of series that I get to create. I would love anything like that.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you like for me to talk to Sandler?

[Heidi Gardner]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Well, we missed you and Happy Gilmore, too, but I don't know what he's gonna have. But you know what? We get done with this, I think I'll do that. I'll just say, hey, I know this person. Down in the dumps. Chief's lost. Needs to pick me up. How about this? Water boy 2 Water boy 2 Water girl. Water girl. We got it. Yes.

[Todd]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Have fun. Thank you again, Heidi.

[Heidi Gardner]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Heidi Gardner, Saturday Night Live cast member and Die hard Chiefs fan. 50th anniversary this Sunday on NBC. And Peacock, that's at 8 Eastern. And of course, you can see her on the Apple TV show Shrinking with Harrison Ford and Jason Segal when we come back, Rhyme time. Last call for phone calls, what we learned. And also, if you're watching on Peacock. It's Meet Thursday. We got ribeyes out there and some loaded up potatoes as well. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Mary Kay McBrayer]

I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories Ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than distributed basic NFL show. We talk sports but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Cuz we got lots to say. I I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Dan Patrick]

There was something sentimental when you like when, when you send it you it's like do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Dan Patrick]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Meet Friday. Awesome. All the recipes. You'll find [e-mail] all right, we've been putting off rhyme time. We want to have a standalone segment. I Didn't want you to compete with Heidi Gardner or anybody else today.

[Todd]

I would lose that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Because she's a comedian. I wanted you to have a standalone segment here. Rhyme time. Once again, would you explain to the audience what rhyme time is all about?

[Todd]

I'm going to give you two clues, and the answers to those clues are words that rhyme with one another.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. For instance.

[Todd]

For instance, close game, as Paulie likes to call it when it's a close game. Embrace. Close game. Embrace.

[Dan Patrick]

Snug hug.

[Todd]

Snug hug.

[Dan Patrick]

Exactly.

[Seaton]

Nailed it.

[Dan Patrick]

Paulie loves the word snug. Oh, yeah, you love snug. It's. It's a good thing. Snug on a cold day. Yeah. Yeah. But Paulie be like, oh, it'll be ESPN snug. So, you know, it's on espn. It's a really tight game. Snug. Public service. All right, Todd.

[Todd]

Small cat. Head over heels.

[Seaton]

Yeah. Kitten smitten.

[Todd]

Kitten smitten. That's correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, that's right. It's Valentine's day. Things are all Valentine's. My bad. My bad.

[Todd]

Boxes and briefs, cheating. Boxes and briefs, cheating. What are boxes and briefs?

[Seaton]

Pair, affair.

[Todd]

That would be underwear affair. Boxes and briefs and cheating would be an underwear affair.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Wow.

[Todd]

Not punctual. A night out. Not punctual. A night out.

[Dan Patrick]

Late date.

[Todd]

Late date.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Todd]

Row seat, rubber. Row seat, rubber.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Paul. Section suction.

[Todd]

Well, look at that. Section protection. Section protection would be row seat and rubber.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, boy.

[Seaton]

I'm going condom. Condom. Condom. London. Condom.

[Dan Patrick]

Trojan. Mojun.

[Todd]

Jalen winks at. Jalen winks at Rose.

[Seaton]

Hurts.

[Todd]

Hurts is one of them. Jalen and winks. Hurts. Flirts. Oh, Valentine's themes we got going.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. That's right. I keep forgetting.

[Todd]

Sports drink. Sing to Sports drink.

[Dan Patrick]

Sing to Marvin Gatorade. Serenade. Serenade.

[Todd]

Intestinal surgery showing love. Intestinal surgery showing love.

[Seaton]

But his bowel obstruction. I love you, affection.

[Todd]

We're looking at resection and affection. So affection was in there.

[Seaton]

That's that specific.

[Dan Patrick]

Screams love.

[Todd]

Sports footwear between the Sports footwear between.

[Seaton]

Cleats, sheets.

[Todd]

That would be cleat sheets.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang.

[Todd]

Laryngitis, Intimate relations. Laryngitis, intimate relations.

[Dan Patrick]

Horse intercourse.

[Todd]

Horse intercourse. Absolutely is. That's what it is.

[Dan Patrick]

Horse intercourse, of course.

[Seaton]

Nailed it.

[Todd]

Saint Brown threesome. Saint Brown threesome.

[Seaton]

Aman equanimous.

[Dan Patrick]

And.

[Todd]

The judges were looking for Amanra and menagerie would be Saint Brown.

[Dan Patrick]

That's a deep cut. I'm gonna give that to Fritzi. I'm gonna give you A blue bloop on that one. Deep cut. Okay.

[Todd]

Manilow song treats. Mandy Candy Pinocchio. Will you accept this nose rose? Complain where my heart belongs. Complain where my heart belongs.

[Dan Patrick]

Fritzi.

[Todd]

Complaining would also be whining.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Todd]

So wine Valentine is what the judges.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Todd]

We only have one or two left. How about poke fun at cosmetic rock is poke fun at. When you poke fun at, like, talk about someone's mom, you're kind of what are you doing to them if you poke fun at them. And a rock group that had a lot of makeup on their face like it was Halloween.

[Seaton]

That's what a cosmetic rocker.

[Todd]

Cosmetic rocker.

[Dan Patrick]

Discus.

[Todd]

Discus is exactly what that is. This and kiss.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going to take away a bloop on that one.

[Todd]

And my last one was dumb Arrow. Also Valentine's later. Dumb and arrow. Stupid, stupid Cupid and I think that's all right.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Todd. A round of applause.

[Todd]

Amon Ra. That's Saint Brown and threesome course.

[Dan Patrick]

Horse.

[Todd]

Horse and intercourse. Laryngitis and intimate relationships.

[Dan Patrick]

Final results of the poll question. There. See no counter.

[Seaton]

Horse intercourse. Horse intercourse. Yeah. Final results of the poll question. Let's see, we have up there. Would you rather do six years in the NFL or six years with SNL? Right now, that's split 50. 50. We also have who's the greatest SNL cast member. Your options were Chris Farley, Eddie Murphy, Will Ferrell, Bill Murray, Adam Sandler and other. Do you want to guess who's in last place right now?

[Dan Patrick]

Adam Sandler.

[Seaton]

What the heck is that all about?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he wasn't great on Saturday Night Live. What? He wasn't.

[Seaton]

People right now at about 30% of the vote have Chris Farley followed very closely by Eddie Murphy and Will Ferrell are actually tied.

[Dan Patrick]

Eddie. Eddie Murphy saved Saturday Night Live.

[Seaton]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Now, if you're going to factor that in of there was nothing like when Eddie came on. People talked about him on Monday. I mean, he was incredible. This day in sports history, Paul, just give you a couple. 1977, Dr. J played his first NBA All Star game. He was the MVP with 30 points and 12 rebounds. Oh, and this is set. 2008, Roger Clemens denied taking PDS in front of Congress on this date. Cooper cup named the MVP. Rams beat the Bengals Super Bowl 56. Let's see. Oh, here's one. 1983, Julius Irving is named MVP again. But the game featured Marvin Gay singing the national anthem. Google it. It's awesome. Brett in California. Hi, Brett. What's on your mind today? Six foot tall, 180 pounds, longtime listener, first time caller. You talk about the most popular SNL sketch view wise of all time. I'm out here in California. It's raining buckets every time it rains in this state. All over social media, all you see the news, everything is the Chris Farley El Nino sketch that has to have more views than any Saturday Night Live content in history. Well, I was listening to Amy Schumer being interviewed on Howard Stern and Howard brought it up to Amy that it's the most viewed skit, that she plays this porn star teacher, provocative teacher. And I think it's the most viewed skit on YouTube. Any history? Kenny in Indiana. Hi, Kenny. Hey, Dan. First time caller, 6 foot, 150. I was calling to see if you have any knowledge or if you can put in a good word if there's going to be a Grown Ups 3 in the works. I have not been told anything. I think Sandler's got to get through Happy Gilmore too. Putting that together. That'll be a big movie coming up probably in July. But I don't know what his other plans are. He's always got two or three that are kind of in the on deck circle. Alrighty. We did it. We're ready to go on vacation for a couple of days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Us. Are we applauding for us?

[Todd]

We are.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Todd, what did you learn today?

[Todd]

Heidi Gardner has a Patrick Mahomes attitude when she's thrown into a sketch and and has to perform without any rehearsal seat.

[Dan Patrick]

No, Connor, Heidi's open to a movie.

[Seaton]

Or a TV show, whichever. Send the offers her way.

[Dan Patrick]

See what I can do, Marvin. Kevin O'Connell is the second best looking coach. Paul Grown Ups 3. I see rumblings of 2026 schedule. Oh, I haven't heard from Sandler. I'm gonna have to check my schedule, see if I'm available. Todd, what did I learn today?

[Todd]

You Learned that Kevin O'Connell believes Sean McVeigh must have a four step grooming process to get his hair to look like that.

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Host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now. Women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers, and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice, and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing With a Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.