Hour 3 – Sean Salisbury, Chris Simms

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 3 – Sean Salisbury, Chris Sims
Release Date: November 26, 2024

Introduction
In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosted by iHeartPodcasts and the Dan Patrick Podcast Network, Dan Patrick sits down with former NFL quarterback Sean Salisbury and Pro Football Talk Live co-host Chris Sims. The trio delves deep into the latest happenings in the NFL, providing insightful analysis, spirited debates, and a dose of humor that fans have come to expect from the show.

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Controversial Game Calls and Coaching Behavior
The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about UConn head coach Dan Hurley's sideline behavior during a recent game against Memphis in Maui. Dan Patrick (03:55) criticizes Hurley, stating, “He got teed up and it cost him the game.” Sean Salisbury (04:11) echoes this sentiment, highlighting a specific controversial “over the back” call that he describes as “a complete joke.” The conversation intensifies as they dissect Hurley’s reaction to the call, with Rachel Zoe interjecting to clarify Hurley’s physical mishap that led to his outburst (05:07). The hosts agree that such behavior is detrimental, with Dan Patrick adding, “That was the craziest he sounded. I don't mind. His face isn't like him.”

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Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson's Ascendancy
Sean Salisbury (06:14) lauds the Baltimore Ravens as “still elite” and discusses quarterback Lamar Jackson's evolving playstyle, noting, “He feels like he's doing more from the pocket and inside the tackles,” which has contributed to his sustained performance. The discussion shifts to Jackson’s potential MVP trajectory, with Salisbury predicting, “If Lamar Jackson wins the Super Bowl and goes on and wins this MVP, where he's one of the favorites along with Allen and Jared Goff…it’ll help validate all those MVPs.” Dan Patrick (09:19) emphasizes the historical context, comparing Jackson’s situation to legends like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, stating, “We did this with Favre, we did it with Rogers, we did it with Peyton. We wanted them to win a championship.”

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MVP Race: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley, and Jared Goff
The MVP conversation heats up as Sean Salisbury (07:25) names Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Jared Goff among the top contenders, arguing that these quarterbacks are under immense pressure to perform. He asserts, “Josh Allen… has elevated his play, which may have taken some of the pressure off if Josh doesn’t win.” Rachel Zoe (32:03) supports this view by highlighting Saquon Barkley’s exceptional talent, stating, “Saquon Barkley is a first ballot Hall of Famer type talent,” positioning him as a strong MVP candidate alongside Jackson and Allen.

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Analysis of the Los Angeles Chargers and Jim Harbaugh’s Coaching
The conversation shifts focus to the Los Angeles Chargers, with Dan Patrick (10:19) expressing skepticism about Jim Harbaugh’s ability to transform the team, saying, “I like Jim and I like that physical. It’s weird… I just don’t think there’s enough weapons.” Sean Salisbury (10:32) concurs, noting the Chargers lack the necessary explosiveness: “They fly around, but I don't think you can be the three yards in a cloud and dust they were just so superior.” Rachel Zoe (26:44) adds that while Harbaugh is bringing an “old school” physical style, the Chargers are missing “a few more difference makers” to reach playoff success.

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USC vs Notre Dame: Sean Salisbury’s Insights
Turning to college football, Sean Salisbury (11:36) analyzes the USC Trojans' performance against Notre Dame, expressing disappointment: “We're just not physical enough to continue to and get enough plays to continue to play the teams like this.” He criticizes USC’s inability to dominate the line of scrimmage, stating, “Until we do that at Southern Cal on both sides of the ball, we will not consistently beat good teams.” The hosts discuss the impact of Lincoln Riley’s play-calling and the necessity for USC to strengthen their defensive and offensive consistency to maintain competitiveness.

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Quarterback Performance: CJ Stroud’s Regression
Dan Patrick (13:48) brings the discussion to the performance of Chargers’ quarterback CJ Stroud, seeking Sean Salisbury’s perspective: “What do you see that C.J. Stroud is not doing this year that he did last year?” Salisbury (14:13) responds by highlighting Stroud’s increased pressure and the offensive line's shortcomings: “He’s missing throws… He has to get back into the simple stuff of making the ordinary play.” The conversation underscores the importance of Stroud regaining his pre-season form and the Chargers addressing their offensive line issues to unlock Stroud’s full potential.

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Kansas City Chiefs’ Vulnerability and MVP Implications
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the Kansas City Chiefs’ vulnerability this season. Rachel Zoe (21:44) points out that their defense isn't as robust as last year and the offensive injuries have hampered their performance: “There is no luxurious need, right? Last year they had maybe two of the three top corners in football on the same team… this year they have no one like that.” Dan Patrick (24:20) reflects on the Chiefs' clutch performance but agrees with the assessment of increased vulnerability: “They are vulnerable until the final two minutes when Mahomes has the ball and then you're vulnerable.”

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Final Thoughts and Thanksgiving Wishes
As the episode wraps up, Dan Patrick (34:15) and Sean Salisbury (34:34) exchange Thanksgiving greetings, reflecting on the episode’s rich discussions. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with the show and share their thoughts, maintaining the show's community-centric approach.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dan Patrick (03:55): “He got teed up and it cost him the game.”
• Sean Salisbury (06:14): “That Baltimore still elite.”
• Sean Salisbury (07:25): “Josh Allen… has elevated his play, which may have taken some of the pressure off if Josh doesn’t win.”
• Sean Salisbury (14:13): “He’s missing throws… He has to get back into the simple stuff of making the ordinary play.”
• Rachel Zoe (21:44): “There is no luxurious need, right? Last year they had maybe two of the three top corners in football on the same team… this year they have no one like that.”
• Dan Patrick (24:20): “They are vulnerable until the final two minutes when Mahomes has the ball and then you're vulnerable.”

Conclusion
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive analysis of current NFL dynamics, focusing on key players like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, team strategies, and coaching impacts. Sean Salisbury and Chris Sims provide expert insights that enrich the conversation, making it a valuable listen for sports enthusiasts seeking in-depth football analysis.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Sean Salisbury]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Sean Salisbury]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.

[Dan Patrick]

Final hour in this Tuesday, Dan and the dentist Dan Patrick Show. We have been all over the map today, all over the globe today, courtesy of the ambassador of humor, Fritzi Seaton, Seer Marvin Paulie, yours truly, the back room guys as well. Your phone calls are welcome. We'll get to those. Coming up. Our good buddy Sean Salisbury, former USC NFL quarterback. He'll stop by in a little bit. Chris Sims, former NFL quarterback on loan from Football Night in America, will stop by as well. Stop by dan patrick.com A lot of great gift ideas for the holidays there. Shop now@dan patrick.com Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show on the menu for Thanksgiving. Dolphin Tua and the Dolphins take on Jordan Love and the packers at Lambeau Thursday, 8 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you, our streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. Have you changed your opinion about the Ravens and or Chargers following last night? Seaton, give me the poll question for the final hour of the program if you can.

[Rachel Zoe]

Let's clean up a couple things here.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan.

[Rachel Zoe]

Dan Hurley's sideline behavior during game is, well, I guess I should say courtside, but whatever. Good for his team or self defeating. Right now, 80% say it's self defeating. A little bit of recency bias.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he got teed up and it cost him the game.

[Rachel Zoe]

I do appreciate him saying it wasn't my technical that cost the game.

[Dan Patrick]

It was all those crappy calls. That's what cost him the game. Here is the UConn head coach after the loss to Memphis in Maui, that.

[Sean Salisbury]

Over the back call at that point of the game there was no attempt to block out. There was a player on Memphis that made a half ass effort to rebound that basketball and Liam McNeely High pointed that rebound for that call to be made at that point of the game was a complete joke.

[Rachel Zoe]

All right.

[Sean Salisbury]

And then for me, I don't know what happened. I might have lost my balance by the absurdity of the call or maybe I tripped. But if I made that call at that point, I would have ignored the fact that I was on my back. If I made that call, I would have ignored that. I would have ignored that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Rachel Zoe]

I'm not really sure I'm following what the whole falling on my back, lost my balance thing means. This is like the third or fourth time I've heard that clip.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm still no closer to understanding exactly.

[Rachel Zoe]

What it is that means.

[Dan Patrick]

Yukon apologist Marvin so when the call was made.

[Rachel Zoe]

Dan Hurley falls to the ground and I think he trips over one of his assistant coaches when the call was made. So that's like he was on the floor.

[Sean Salisbury]

Oh, yeah.

[Rachel Zoe]

And then he got up and proceeded to start cursing at the ref.

[Dan Patrick]

I would never say that I fell.

[Rachel Zoe]

When I disagreed with the call, but maybe I did that.

[Dan Patrick]

Actually. That's the craziest he sounded. I don't mind. His face isn't like him.

[Sean Salisbury]

Nate Morgan, you.

[Rachel Zoe]

You. I don't mind that. This, though, is terrifying.

[Dan Patrick]

Doesn't it sound like Bob Ross is. He's painting something Here, give me. Can you give me a little bit more?

[Rachel Zoe]

Little Van Dyke Brown.

[Sean Salisbury]

That over the back call at that point of the game.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah.

[Sean Salisbury]

There was no attempt to block out.

[Dan Patrick]

I like pastels. I do. What a happy little tree right here. Landscaping. I love it. The sun setting behind.

[Rachel Zoe]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

What a lovely day. We'll get to more phone calls coming up. He's Sean Salisbury, our good buddy, the former quarterback, host of the Sean Salisbury show on Sports Talk 790 in Houston. What'd you take away from last night's game?

[Sean Salisbury]

That Baltimore still elite. And then I think Dan and the Chargers will give people problems because they're physical and it's a hardball team. I just don't think they're explosive enough. But Baltimore, Dan, I've contended for the last couple years. And now adding Derrick Henry to this mix, I think the toughest team on the planet to game plan for going into a week, if you're a defensive coordinator is the Baltimore Ravens. And if you watch Lamar Dan, haven't you seen almost. I don't want to say a transformation, but it feels to me like he's doing more from the pocket and inside that, inside the tackles, as opposed to bailing early, which I think has sustained and been better for him. The numbers weren't gaudy, but he's protecting the football. And then you got that big, you know, an outside linebacker playing running back. I think they're the most difficult to game plan with and if they can get through January. This is a February team, but we'll see if they can handle January, which hasn't been their friend the last few years.

[Dan Patrick]

But I'm wondering who has. Does anybody have more pressure on them than Lamar Jackson?

[Sean Salisbury]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

This season coming, you know, going into the playoffs, I can do Kyle Shanahan. I can do Mahomes, a 3 Pete. I don't know who else would be in the mix.

[Sean Salisbury]

Well, Mahomes, I can tell you Mahomes. For Mahomes. It's just his pressure is, is he going to be number 12 in New England? Right. And that's what we're starting to talk about with Kyle Shanahan. It's, can you call plays and get your team to expand their bandwidth and execute in February, late January? February. I'll tell you another name you could throw in there, and I'll get back to Lamar, is Josh Allen. And he has said this year, Dan, I don't know about you, but I had them fallen off a little bit. And he has elevated his play, which may have taken some of the pressure on Weld if Josh doesn't win. But there's that category of the Prescott's, the Allens, the Lamar Jacksons who have been in there in January but haven't gotten to February. So I think there's a bunch of them in the team picture. And back to Lamar. Now, Dan, I want to take it another level with the pressure. Think if Lamar Jackson wins the super bowl and goes on and wins this MVP where he's one of the favorites along with Allen and Jared Goff. Dan, that'd be three MVPs in six years and a Super bowl championship. Now, we've done it for running backs Gail Thayers, Terrell Davis, who have dominated their sport for five or six, seven years. Doesn't that automatically put him in hall of Fame talk already? Yeah, think about that. I mean, I know that's a long ways away, but that's where we are with this cat. And he's playing great football, but I think he's at the top of the list because it'll help validate all those MVPs. It's as high as anything for him.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think what we're doing to Lamar is what we did to the Joker and what we did to Giannis. We're like, we can't give you another MVP unless you're going to win a title. Well, they won titles. Nobody will argue if you give them another mvp. Lamar knows, hey, I'm great in the regular season. I have to. I have to win a championship just to validate. We did this with Favre, we did it with Rogers, we did it with Peyton. We wanted them to win a championship.

[Sean Salisbury]

Isn't it, Isn't it amazing, Dan, with that? Think about Marino. You and I were watched him in the best. I mean, the best. Maybe he's the best thrower of the football probably ever. And there's always a but at the end of it, which there shouldn't be. But there is. And Lamar, you're exactly right. And the more he continues to excel as an mvp, the more pressure falls on his shoulders to get to February. And now, Dan, it's not just getting to that game, it's winning it. Because if he gets there and doesn't win it, what is the first thing we're going to say? Ah, too much height, too much pressure, can't quite do it. Which is unfair. But then again, it's not unfair, depending on what kind of performance he has in that game. But you're exactly right. And Giannis and Joker go get their thing and it's time for Lamar to do his if I don't think it needs validation, but in the way we judge players at that position, wins and losses in super bowl championships are a quarterback stat. We never look at the left tackle and say, how many Super Bowls did you win while you got to the hall of Fame quarterback? We do. No doubt a lot of pressure on him. And no doubt the coach. It's Kyle Shanahan. It's not even close.

[Dan Patrick]

I have bought into the Chargers before and paid the price. I can't. I can't. I still can't buy. You know, I love what Harbaugh does. He's trying to make them Michigan, the Michigan of the NFL.

[Sean Salisbury]

Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm just not sure. Just not sure. What about you, Dan?

[Sean Salisbury]

I hate to say this as much I like Jim and I like that physical. You know, it's weird. It's. It's. It's strange because we know you can't be a finesse team and win a Super bowl if you're not physical. But if you're just physical and give body blows the whole time, we need you to have a little bit of finesse love, too. Where I just don't think there's enough weapons. That's right about the time you'd say, man, it'd be great if Keenan Allen was still there. Right. Or you could get a Hunter Henry healthy. I just don't think they do, and I don't either. Now, Dan, I think the last time you bought in the Chargers is when I played for the Chargers. I mean, I know you put a lot of money on our Super Bowl. They got a little bit better chance with that guy at quarterback. But the truth is, I think they're a team that goes in and makes you work to win. I just don't think there's enough weapons defense. They fly around, but I don't think you can be the three yards in a cloud and dust they were just so superior. And think about what McCarthy did at Michigan. Made a nut 20 and 22 didn't turn the ball over. This team's not explosive enough right now to win a Super Bowl. Let's see what happens with them over the next year or two playoffs. Yes, but they'll be an early out because there's not enough explosiveness.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Sean Salisbury, former USC NFL CFL legend. Speaking of usc, let me, let me hear your analysis of this. What do you expect to happen with your alma mater against Notre Dame?

[Sean Salisbury]

Not much. Can I go with the history of it that we have a lot of Pro Boys?

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Sean Salisbury]

Hey, 100 years, great rivalry. Think about all the. I think Dan, there's. What is there like 18 height or not 17 Heismans among the two they have, you know, all the NFL players. In truth, I know if you're Lincoln Riley and I don't, I don't know the inside of how dangerous, what kind of danger, how hot the seat is. Daniel, I know this. If it's a hot seat and you don't beat UCLA and Notre Dame, you might as well grab an apple and a roadmap, take your ass out because you got no shot to keep it. Now you beat those two, there's that temptation to hang on. The thing that continues to baffle me, we're just not physical enough to continue to and get enough plays to continue to play the teams like this. And I know Notre Dame's had their ups and downs, but they're a far better team than we are. We're far faster, more team speed, but that doesn't get you anything but a pat on the back and another loss. I like Notre Dame in the game if I'm picking it straight up, but it's a chance for, I don't want to say save their season, but it's a chance for the Trojans to at least go into the off season thinking, okay, what do we do next? But Dan, until they. I spend a lot of time weekly I meet with Bruce, Bruce Matthews, the all time great at line and we constantly talk about over the last handful of years that I talked to a lot of former players. The thing that drives all the pretty stuff that goes on with nil and collective and offenses that spread out in Lincoln, who's a brilliant play caller with all that. You know what they miss the Most speaking of 3 yards in a cloud of dust is they want student body or they want to dominate the line of scrimmage. And until we do that at Southern Cal on both sides of the ball. We will not consistently beat good teams. You had a football player, Jesse and Caleb Williams, they couldn't beat anybody because you had to score 45 and they'd give up 48 until that consistency there. Which baffles me that we can't get a defense to get stops and they make too many mistakes on offense. Physicality is a big problem for them. If it doesn't get fixed, Lincoln Riley will be coaching somewhere else.

[Dan Patrick]

CJ Stroud has regressed a little bit here. As you know, playing the position. When defenses get a book on you, what you do well and then they try to force you to do, you know, take you out of your comfort zone. I don't know if it's something as simple as that. I know everybody has injuries, but, you know, Tank Dell really seems to be the guy. When he plays, they win. But what do you see that C.J. stroud is not doing this year that he did last year?

[Sean Salisbury]

Yeah, Dan, that. I'm so glad you asked that. My head. I was frustrated Monday, then I woke up Tuesday and I'm a Raider fan too. Think what a screwed up season. I'm a Raider fan, a Trojans fan and I'm locally here in Houston. So right now I got to get my focus on Thanksgiving. I woke up Monday irritated. Then I'm thinking about it this morning I woke up and I'm thinking, okay, the layers to this team. Yes. Crowd has regressed and I think part of it's the collateral damage and the constant hits. Where your eyes, Dan, go from seeing the coverage to feeling the rush to now being the rush and feeling the coverage and that you can't succeed that way. He is a great player with great mid level throw, everything he does. He's got a chance to be special, but he's got to get out of that mode and you got to get the trust factor back. The problem is how do you trust five guys up front where the guy who's supposed to be the best tackle or one of the three or four best in the league jumps off sides like a seven year old in this first Pop Warner game every friggin week. And when you continue to take the cumulative hits, eventually the human nature is you're going to start doing things different. Ball's going to come out premature. And the one thing Stroud's doing different this year, Dan, he's missing the easy stuff. I always say the best quarterbacks, Manning, Breeze, Brady, Warren, Moon of all time, made the ordinary play look ordinary. We're not making the ordinary play Here look ordinary and extraordinary. You can't live there. Even Mahomes with all the off schedule stuff with Andy Reid. What do they do Dan? Hit screens, hit shallow crosses, hit flat routes on third and three. Kelsey on a bang off option route to sit in the hole. And right now CJ's missing throws. Whether it's. And I mean I know he's not going to point the finger. He has not played as well and Bobby slow it. It's almost like with mixing and with the injuries and with their success last year they're playing not to lose. They've lost some aggressiveness and so is Stroud. So he has taken a step back. Mechanics you deal with in the off season. He has got to get back into the simple stuff of making the ordinary play. That being said, until they do stuff up front with a pre snap penalty, all the stuff that makes you go nuts on a football team that gives you no shot to sustain success. They beat one good team, Buffalo, one good team. Other than that, every win's been a team sub 500 and every other loss has been against a playoff caliber team. So they got a lot to do. Dan, he's going to be a great player but he's taken a step back and I think it's a cumulative of a lot of things. And this team has not handled success as well as they handled failure going into last year as a three win team. And here they are a team that was supposed to be a Super bowl type team and they're playing nothing like it. They're going to be an easy out if they don't get this fixed.

[Dan Patrick]

Final 30 seconds. I'll give you the Lions or the field in the nfc.

[Sean Salisbury]

Give me the Lions. I picked him to go to the super bowl in August. I'm not backing off. At best play caller not named Andy Reed in football and if he's got his foot on the throat, he'll make sure he twists it. And Goff deserves to have MVP mentioned. I'll take the Lions.

[Dan Patrick]

Happy Thanksgiving. Great to see you again. Thank you, buddy.

[Sean Salisbury]

Great to see you, bud. Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks man.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Sean Salisbury, former NFL, USC quarterback and morning host of the Sean Salisbury show and Sports Talk 790 in Houston. We got Chris Sims from Football Night America waiting in the wings. We'll get to him. Your phone calls as well. We're back after this.

[Sean Salisbury]

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[Rachel Zoe]

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[Sean Salisbury]

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[Rachel Zoe]

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[Sean Salisbury]

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[Dan Patrick]

Hey everyone, it's Sarah Spain from Good.

[Rachel Zoe]

Game with Sarah Spain. And we're in the beautiful city of Malaga, Spain, where we just watched Team Italy win the Billie Jean King Cup.

[Sean Salisbury]

Before the final, we got a chance.

[Rachel Zoe]

To sit down with Billie Jean herself. Take a listen.

[Sean Salisbury]

Well, look at the scoring. I think it should be 1, 2, 3, 4, how do you get new kids in the game? I mean, they come to watch and I never been in tennis and my coach starts saying, well, let me explain the scoring. It's 15, love, 30, 11. I go, I know, 45, right? They go, no. And I go, and I'm 11 years old. And I said to him, this is the stupidest great English, the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Now I know I'm like a lot of kids. I don't come from tennis. My family's not in tennis. And if you are in tennis as a child, you still want to make it fun. And I think when you start tennis, you should be put on a team. Just put them on a team. That can be a great, make it less individual from the beginning because it's about relationships.

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[Dan Patrick]

According to DraftKings, Josh Allen is still your leading candidate for the MVP. Then it's Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley and Jared Goff. Yeah, they were trying to shoehorn Mahomes in there and yes, you know, eventually he could be the mvp, but the MVP of the Super Bowl. But he hasn't been great during the regular season. And it's weird. Are they bored? Are they kind of positioning themselves to get into these tight games? And then what do they do when they're. I don't know how much of this is deliberate, but it just feels like I think 8 of 10 of their games have Come down to a single possession, a one score game. It just feels like it's a little too close for comfort. And could their luck run out this year? They seem more vulnerable this year than they did last year, but then last year they won the Super Bowl. He's Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live co Host, NBC Football Night America Analyst former NFL quarterback how vulnerable are the Chiefs this year?

[Rachel Zoe]

I mean, I think they're more vulnerable than last year in some ways, right? I mean, the record was worse last year. At this point we were having some of the same questions, right? So it was the same type of stuff. But I think the difference this year is there's two things. The defense is not as good as last year that I've been trying to tell people that for the last few weeks on my podcast and things like that to go. You don't see as many playmaking chaos, mess the play up type plays from people in the front seven. Chris Jones, Nick Bolton, whoever it may be. The biggest thing, Dan, is there's no luxurious need, right? Last year they had maybe two of the three top corners in football on the same team. So they could have go, hey, you guys, get on an island and we'll do whatever we want with the nine other guys. The other aspect of it is injuries on the offensive side of the ball. And this time last year we saw Rasheed Rice starting to go trend upwards and go, ooh, he could be a guy here for the future. I don't see anybody like that in their offense right now. Where I go, oh, this guy. Watch out. I think Xavier Worthy is far off from that. And really, Dan, 40 years of like football intuition. I would go, there's no way they're going to go to the super bowl and win the super bowl this year. Except the fact that they kind of did this last year and had the horrible Christmas Day game. And it's the only thing that makes me hesitate saying it. But yeah, my overall body of football life wants to say, no, they're not going to do this, Daniel.

[Dan Patrick]

They are vulnerable. And I said this earlier in the show, they're vulnerable until the final two minutes when Mahomes has the ball and then you're vulnerable.

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, they're, they're, they have a great clutch just about them. And because of their super bowl wins and so many other big wins, they just, what's pressure after you've won the super bowl the way they have a few times, right? Oh, no, it's regular season game number 11. Oh, no, we're down to Carolina Ooh, that's pressure. So they're not going to buckle under any of that. And, yeah, right now they kind of play a brand of football. And I talked to other coaches in football about this. Just keep it close, Keep it close and give 15 the ball late in the game and you're going to lose. And that's what scares everybody in the NFL right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Belichick was on the Manning cast, and he says so many things almost under his breath. He doesn't have any big proclamations, any big pronouncements. He's. He's just talking about. It's kind of meaningless to have a spy on Lamar Jackson because the spy is not as athletic as Lamar Jackson, so why bother? I mean, it's really simple when you think about, like, oh, we're going to spy him. Well, if the spy can't stop Lamar Jackson, why have a spy on Lamar Jackson? Right?

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, you got to have the right personnel. Now, I'll say to Bill Belichick and counterpoint that. Right. We just saw the week before Lamar Jackson, he couldn't scramble or run or do anything against the Pittsburgh Steelers. He had a few, like, design quarterback runs off the edge, where he got some. Some yardage, certainly, but he couldn't. He couldn't leave the pocket and make those magic Lamar plays. Why was that? One, they know how to play him and rush him. But two, to Belichick's point, they have a guy in Patrick Queen who is really fast and explosive to. Oh, I'm going to kind of spy him. As soon as Lamar gets out of the pocket, I'm going to be all over him and he's not going to buy five more seconds throwing the football. So, yeah, you got to have special personnel for the most part, but more times than not. Yeah, a lot of teams aren't going to have that guy, and you got to just have guys underneath coverage that have eyes on them so they can rally and tackle and get to him.

[Dan Patrick]

Feels like Jim Harbaugh needs a couple of years to bring what he wants to bring to the Chargers. You're seeing it. It's the embryonic stages, but it's almost as if they feel like they've overachieved a little bit, in my opinion, because, well, now my expectations weren't great this year just because I didn't think they had the weapons. And I think he wants to have that Michigan feel to the Chargers. But what is your takeaway from what you've seen with the Chargers?

[Rachel Zoe]

I like the Chargers. I do. In fact, I really enjoy watching their style of football play, but I think you kind of hit on it. They're old school and we're seeing this right now. The new thing in the NFL is run the ball and play action. That's the best offenses are doing that. It's the death of the spread and all that. So, yes, he's bringing that there. I like everything about them. They're physical, they're tough, they got a lot of the right pieces. They're just missing what I always call like sizzle. Right. The meat and potatoes are there, but they need a few more difference makers. Like you said, another splash receiver to go along. The group they probably need. They're going to need to get a running back that's big time if they want to play that style. Probably another D lineman. Most people can't name their D tackles and their DNS we know are coming to the end of their career. But man, I. I think he's laid the framework down. I understand what you're saying. I think new energy of Harbaugh, people kind of trying to figure out Greg Roman's new wrinkles. And then of course, what they're doing on defense has probably caught some teams by surprise. But I think they're a playoff team and I think they're a playoff team that can win a game if they get in there. They could be dangerous that way.

[Dan Patrick]

Harbaugh reminds me of Ted Lasso. Like, he's. He's goofy. Ted Lasso is a character, created character. Harbaugh is not a character that's created. That's just Harbaugh.

[Rachel Zoe]

It is. He's crazy. In a good way. You know, he is. And he's all about football. His social skills are different, definitely. I think I've told this story before. He made me mad once when I went interviewed him at the San Francisco 49ers. He didn't like one of the questions I asked and he dropped mic and said, tell your dad I said hi and walked away. And I called him a jerk for about five years after that and all that. But, you know, as time goes by, you forgive. And I was around him a few times and I feel like he was aware of that. He's tried to be cordial, but he is a pretty damn good guy. He just football. I got a chance to hang out with him at the super bowl in the hotel for a little while and he couldn't have been better to my family and my mom and my aunt and all that. But he can't not talk football. Yeah, there's not a lot of, like, other, you know, roads of conversation.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you didn't call him. You didn't call him a jerk to his face, though.

[Rachel Zoe]

No, no, I didn't call him a jerk to his. But I called it on camera and, you know, and I rooted against him for a little while. So I'm sure he heard some of that at some point.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you think you could take Jim Harbaugh?

[Rachel Zoe]

Yes, I do. Right now.

[Sean Salisbury]

100%.

[Rachel Zoe]

In his prime. I don't know about that. In his prime, that had been something for sure. He was a tough sob. How do you.

[Dan Patrick]

How do you. I don't know what to make out about this. Jon Gruden maybe coaching again. Would the jets be interested? And you know how these things get started. Somebody will say, hey, speculation or rumor, innuendo. Then it becomes sort of a report. Ish. I don't know if you and Florio on Pro Football Talk have spoken about Gruden coming back and could you see him maybe with the Jets?

[Rachel Zoe]

We have not spoke about it. I've heard some of those rumors. I haven't heard any of those rumors from people that I am really close with in the NFL, Dan. That's where I would go with that. And the other thing, too, like, I mean, come on, the jets want to cause those problems and now have people talking about Jon Gruden and the issues that go along with that. There's a lot of good candidates out there right now. If I'm the New York Jets, I am calling Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel. The Giants or the Jets? If the Giants job comes open is where I start. Mike Vrabel's made for New York. He's Bill Parcell's junior and he will get that organization back on track. That would be my number one guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I just wonder. I had Albert Breer on last hour and we were speculating, like, what is the best opening or potential opening. I know Chicago is not open. I still just love that possibility because of that quarterback. And I think you have some pieces in place there. They should be better now. You're playing in the toughest division. And I don't know what's happened to Trevor Lawrence. You could speak to that better than I can from a quarterbacking perspective. I mean, I don't know if he just lost confidence or like, where is he? Is he a franchise quarterback? Is he a top 10 quarterback?

[Rachel Zoe]

He is. You know, I would say right now, probably not. No, he's not a top 10 quarterback. He's not bad he's on the outside looking in, but a guy that like, has the talent and potential to be there. We've seen moments of it. That's where like, you're not going to. I'm not going to give up on Trevor Lawrence. You know, we can't forget he's been a part of some bad situations. We can't forget two years ago he brought a team back from 27 nothing in a wild card game and then had the Chiefs on the ropes in the AFC divisional game. So he's shown us extended periods of time now. Yeah, there's other things there that are not great supporting him. And he has definitely gotten to some bad habits. There's no doubt about that. Dan, you're right about that. Chicago is the prettier job. To me, Chicago's got a lot of young talent. And that quarterback, I know it's been a little all over the place, but he does things that make my eyes pop out of my head. Times where I'm like, oh, my gosh, that throw, that move, that run was insanity in the membranity. That would be the job I want. And if I was Ben Johnson, I'd be looking at Chicago hard.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host and contributor to Football Night in America. Give me this scenario how Saquon can win the mvp.

[Rachel Zoe]

Well, he does what he did the other night, like three more times. Is that good enough for you? I mean, he's a freak show. This is why football so brutal. Saquon Barkley is a first ballot hall of Famer type talent and he's been on a crap team his whole career and he's never gotten to show what he can really do. And now he's with a team that can show, can show us all. And he's special. He continues to do that. He flirts with 2000. Right. The Eagles are the number one seed. Lamar is the guy right now to me. But Saquon and Josh Allen are not far behind.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I've been on the Josh Allen bandwagon for a while. I just. And it almost feels like there's less pressure on him.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Because, oh, they don't have Stefan Diggs. They had all the injuries, defense, you know, and, and, but he has played really, really well. It's just his game. His season comes down to what happens against Kansas City. Lamar's season comes down to what happens against Kansas City. And I did bring this up earlier. Who has more pressure on them this year? If I said Patrick Mahomes, three peat Kyle Shanahan winning a Super bowl or Lamar Jackson going to a Super Bowl.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah, I hear you there. I think it's Lamar. I do. I mean, there's. I'm not trying to take away or take off the pressure of the other two guys, but to me, Lamar and Josh Allen, I think those two guys have more pressure on them than anybody in football. Josh Allen, as you said at first off, is a freak show. He's one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen in our lives. They team now is finally there. Like, this is different. Let me just say, when they play Kansas City next time, it's if you. I'm a betting man, I'm going to take Buffalo. I will. Buffalo is a different team than the years past. Their O line gives Kansas City issues. They got enough heat at receiver now to where? Oh, you want to play man to man, watch out. And the defense has some size. Lamar, you're right about that. I mean, of course he's got pressure there. He's got, what, two playoff wins in his career, and we're talking about one of the most talented guys ever. So I think it's those two guys that have the most pressure. They've been playing phenomenal football, that's for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Great to talk to you, as always. Thanks for joining us. Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family. And thanks, Dan. You know, next time you stop in at your local dispensary, if you want to stop into the studio, we'd love to have you.

[Rachel Zoe]

All right, well, I'll let you know. The dispensary move closer to me, so I don't go up that way as much anymore. So sorry about that, but happy Thanksgiving.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait.

[Rachel Zoe]

To all you.

[Dan Patrick]

You're such a good customer. The dispensary move closer to you.

[Rachel Zoe]

I hope that's why they did it. They were probably like, damn, this guy spent so much money. Let's open up the store there.

[Dan Patrick]

Does your dad go to the dispensary?

[Rachel Zoe]

No, he does not. No, he does not. He's. He makes fun of me for going to the dispensary so much.

[Dan Patrick]

Does he understand it?

[Rachel Zoe]

He does. He does understand it.

[Dan Patrick]

Totally.

[Rachel Zoe]

I mean, yes, he's. He's, he's, you know, my dad, so of course he understands it.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, bud.

[Rachel Zoe]

All right, man. Be good.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host and Football Night in America. Yeah, there's a dispensary not very far from here. Chris would come up to the dispensary to get his goods, and then Sometimes he would stop in the dispensary. That'd be a nickname for something like a John Stockton. He's the dispensary.

[Rachel Zoe]

Oh, I get it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. He just handed out. Handing out assist. Here you go. Landry in Louisiana. Hi, Landry. What's on your mind today?

[Rachel Zoe]

I have a question. I'm 4, 5 and 110 pounds. I have a question.

[Dan Patrick]

Who do you want for the Super Bowl? Who do I want for the Super Bowl? Landry, let me ask you, who do you want?

[Rachel Zoe]

I want the Kansas City Chase against the Detroit Lions.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think that would be what a smart man would say, that Kansas City versus the Lions, absolutely be a nice matchup. I think having the Lions in the super bowl would be sort of mind bending because as long as I've been covering and watching and being a fan of football, if you said the Lions are going to be in the super bowl in your lifetime, I'd be like, gosh, I'm going to have to live a long life. Amy in Michigan. Hi, Amy. What's on your mind today? Hi, Dan.

[Sean Salisbury]

How you doing? I love you guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thanks, Amy.

[Rachel Zoe]

No, it's Thanksgiving. The Bears. The Lions. I was at the 1980 Bears, Lions.

[Sean Salisbury]

Game that went into overtime, and I'll never forget it.

[Rachel Zoe]

Everybody was happy. Barry, Walter, things were great.

[Sean Salisbury]

And then the kickoff for the overtime.

[Rachel Zoe]

I had really good seats, and I.

[Sean Salisbury]

Got so quiet you could hear the.

[Rachel Zoe]

Pads clicking as Dave Williams ran by you with the people following him.

[Sean Salisbury]

It was terrible.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep. Went into overtime. And that's the. That was the quickest game in NFL history. The ending, I should say, in overtime. Dave Williams. Mark in Washington. Hi, Mark. What's on your mind today?

[Rachel Zoe]

Hey, Dan. Third time long time six one and a stagnant 240.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Rachel Zoe]

Just a quick idea for some merchandise. Can we please get some Dan Patrick show bobbleheads?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Seaton, do we have DP show bobblehead?

[Rachel Zoe]

No. No, we don't.

[Dan Patrick]

Can we get them?

[Rachel Zoe]

We can. Yeah, yeah. You hate bobbleheads.

[Dan Patrick]

I do.

[Rachel Zoe]

We never.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, well, I know. Look behind you guys. I have a hundred bobbleheads back there. You do? Well, I just. I had bobbleheads when I was at the mothership, and it felt like they all kind of looked the same. And I just thought, I don't know. I mean, they could have made me look like Ronaldo. That would have been nice. You know, even Dwyane Wade statue. I would have taken that just because it looked different. And then I think I started to look like George W. Bush a little bit in my bobblehead. So, like, yeah, I guess we could look at it and see if you're interested in my bobblehead. Let me see Dennis in St. Pete. Hi, Dennis. What's on your mind today?

[Rachel Zoe]

That's me. Hey, five seven. Dad. Bob 145. I had a different idea. So Tom Brady, you know, analyzers at hundred million dollars to do this. Why not hire Aaron Rodgers as a quarterback coach or GB as a quarterback coach?

[Dan Patrick]

The connection is not very good, Dennis. I'm not sure if you're under a waterfall there, but I don't see Rogers coaching. I don't know if I even see him in the media. Certainly not in sports media.

[Rachel Zoe]

But yeah, Paul, life coaching, not coaching.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, life coaching. He's already trying to maybe a podcaster. Yeah, a podcaster. Everybody's a podcaster. Hey, I want to be a podcaster. And I always say. Okay, tell me what your pitch is. Well, what do you mean? Don't you just talk? Yeah, it helps if you have a little direction there. What is your podcast? I don't know. I just figured I'd talk sports. Yeah, that's not the way to go about it. Yes, Marvin, it's the new.

[Rachel Zoe]

You know in the previous generation when you were funny to your friends. Oh, man, you should do standup.

[Dan Patrick]

No, you shouldn't. Yeah.

[Rachel Zoe]

Just because you make your friends laugh.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Doesn't mean you can go out with.

[Rachel Zoe]

A bunch of strangers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Hey, you were in the school play. You should be an actor. No, I don't think so. All right, let me take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow. Try to accomplish all of that right after this.

[Sean Salisbury]

Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am East Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Rachel Zoe]

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[Dan Patrick]

Hey, everyone, it's Sarah Spain from Good.

[Rachel Zoe]

Game with Sarah Spain. And we're in the beautiful city of Malaga, Spain, where we just watched team Italy win the Billie Jean King Cup.

[Sean Salisbury]

Before the final, we got a chance.

[Rachel Zoe]

To sit down with Billie Jean herself. Take a listen.

[Sean Salisbury]

Well, look at the scoring. I think it should be 1, 2, 3, 4. How do you get new kids in the game? I mean, they come to watch and I never been in tennis and my coach started saying, well, let me explain, explain the scoring. It's 15, love 30. I go, I know, 45, right? They go, no. And I go, and I'm 11 years old. And I said to him, this is the stupidest great English, the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Now I know I'm like a lot of kids. I don't come from tennis. My family's not in tennis. And if you are in tennis as a child, you still want to make it fun. And I think when you start tennis, you should be put on a team. Just put them on a team. That can be a great team. Make it less individual from the beginning because it's about relationships.

[Rachel Zoe]

To hear more from the legend herself, Billie Jean King, on my show Good Game with Sarah Spain. Be sure to listen to this episode of Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL unscripted with Verk and Demers.

[Sean Salisbury]

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[Rachel Zoe]

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[Sean Salisbury]

Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Ferkey.

[Rachel Zoe]

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[Dan Patrick]

Last call for phone calls. What we learned once in store tomorrow, Fritz. He goes, have you seen the new Movado commercial? I go, no. He goes, you got to, you got to go. 47 seconds in. I go, okay, send it to me.

[Rachel Zoe]

I usually don't tape commercials to play back over and over again.

[Dan Patrick]

So he sends me the Movado the watch commercial and 47 seconds later it's Jessica Alba. And I said, okay. And Julianne Moore, yes, I think is Charlize Theron. Is she. She's got something. Maybe she does, like Breitling or something. But it doesn't make me want to buy one of these things. Or I go, I'm going to buy that for my wife because Jessica Alba is wearing it.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's weird like that. People are probably not more likely to buy the watch, but just kind of stare at Jessica Alba in the Movado commercial.

[Dan Patrick]

But I know it gets attention on a product, but I don't know if I've ever gone, you know, aside from like shoes, Michael Jordan shoes or something. But I don't know if I've ever Gone. You know what? I think I want to have that camping gear because Bears grills or whatever his name girl is using it. I don't know. I don't. I don't remember doing anything like that. You guys bought anything where you go. I'm buying it because that person. Anything come to mind, Todd?

[Rachel Zoe]

Not so much a person, but like I'll go to Jersey Mike's or a pizza place or from Food will get.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what I'm talking about? A celebrity.

[Rachel Zoe]

I don't think any celebrity has ever made me. Especially if it's some kind of high end expensive thing that I don't think I could even afford.

[Dan Patrick]

Paulie, what about you?

[Rachel Zoe]

I remember watching a few years ago Daniel Craig in one of those James Bond movies and he had, I don't know, the brand may be Omega Watch. Man, that looks cool. And I saw the commercial after the movie. I was like, I should go get me one of those. I don't think I did, but I remember thinking like Marvin, anything Michael Jordan.

[Dan Patrick]

Show soldier you'd buy?

[Rachel Zoe]

I'd ask.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you'd ask. Bridget Seaton. You ever bought anything where it's a celebrity endorsed product?

[Rachel Zoe]

Probably a million. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Really?

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah. I mean, like, you know, Bear Grylls, if he was endorsing outdoor equipment, that kind of makes sense since he's like a survival expert.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I still wouldn't. I wouldn't go. You know what? He's. He uses that. I'm gonna use that. I just. I wouldn't. Yes, Todd.

[Sean Salisbury]

I think I was too young to.

[Rachel Zoe]

Shave, but when I saw Joe Namath and Farrah Fostered for Noxzema, I definitely.

[Sean Salisbury]

Wanted some shaving cream, even though I wasn't ready.

[Dan Patrick]

Just shaving fair.

[Rachel Zoe]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

You see how I did with that, Tom? Alrighty. Alrighty. Here we go. Nate in Minneapolis. Then we'll do this day in sports history. Hi, Nate. What's on your mind?

[Sean Salisbury]

Hey, good morning, guys. So you guys were talking about Rogers.

[Rachel Zoe]

And where he may or may not play next season. And I had this major sense of deja vu and I suddenly realized Rogers is walking the same path as another quarterback. And I can almost guarantee, yes, you.

[Dan Patrick]

End up in Minnesota.

[Sean Salisbury]

Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

That ain't happening.

[Sean Salisbury]

That.

[Dan Patrick]

That's not going to happen. They have J.J. mcCarthy there. Have J.J. mcCarthy. Oh, I just got my Happy Gilmore. The. The assistant costume designer for Happy Gilmore too. I'm reaching out to get your sizes. Height, weight, suit, dress shirt, T shirt, pants, shoes, hat, brands that work well for him.

[Rachel Zoe]

That's exciting.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so I'm getting decked out here. This day in sports history, Paulie.

[Rachel Zoe]

The NHL was founded 1970. 1917. The Montreal Canadiens. The Montreal Wanderers. Ottawa Centers, Toronto Arenas, Quebec Bulldogs. Let's see. Howard Cosell in 82, called his last boxing match. Does anybody remember who was in it?

[Dan Patrick]

Randall Tex Khan.

[Rachel Zoe]

Correct. Barry Sanders, 1998, became only the second running back in history to run for more than 15,000 yards.

[Dan Patrick]

I was there when this happened. Willie Flipper Anderson set an NFL record 336 receiving yards. Rams over the Saints. Fred Lynn, first rookie to also be named American League MVP. Freddie Lynn, underrated. 1975. Let me see. Curtin, Illinois. Hi, Kurt. What's on your mind today?

[Rachel Zoe]

Hey, Dan. 511, 220. I'd like to make a show suggestion. I'd like to hear Fritzie do his Dr. Rivers impersonation promoting Ozempic.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Doc, what do you think of Ozempic?

[Rachel Zoe]

I can't seem to lose the excess weight. I went to my doctor. He prescribed ozempic. I lost £47 in a week.

[Sean Salisbury]

I know you can't believe it.

[Rachel Zoe]

I didn't tell anybody because I just wanted people to think that I ate fruit and did jumping jacks. But it turns out I gave myself the shot in the stomach. I lost a lot of weight.

[Dan Patrick]

It sounds like you're dying, Doc. You may need to see a doc.

[Rachel Zoe]

I have emphysema, though. It was one of the side effects.

[Dan Patrick]

And no, he doesn't have emphysema. And it is Doc, and he has suffered some losses this year.

[Rachel Zoe]

It's going to be all right, though. We're going to turn it around. Give me four quarters sometimes over.

[Dan Patrick]

Brian in Texas. Hi, Brian. What's on your mind today?

[Rachel Zoe]

Hey, Good morning, Dan. 5, 10, 185.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Rachel Zoe]

As a longtime Texans fan since 2002 inaugural season, I got my hopes up every year and my heart broken every year. So my wife figured it'd be a great idea to get tickets to Arrowhead Stadium this year. I've never been over there. I've been to many home games, and I guess they've jumped on that. Last year they jumped on the Taylor Swift Kelsey bandwagon. So they're all pumped up about going, and I'm gonna go. And I'm gonna, of course, get my heart broken over there in my. In the Chiefs stadium, which I, you know, cannot stand the Chiefs. But I'm going to go. I'm going to make the most of it. But my question to you guys is, I'm sure you all have been over there. What do I do over there? What's good to eat? Where do I stay? What? What am I going to do to pass the time and ease the pain of seeing my offense crumble?

[Dan Patrick]

I haven't stayed there. Marvin, have you been Seaton's been to Kansas City, haven't you? Kansas City game?

[Rachel Zoe]

I have, yeah. I really just pretty much went to Arrowhead though.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I would say have the barbecue. You can't go wrong. People are very nice. Yes, Paul, I've kicked it in a.

[Rachel Zoe]

Very lively area called the Power and Light District. Very fun.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Power and Light.

[Rachel Zoe]

That's in Kansas City. Very exciting. Yeah, that's the spot.

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