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Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
Devin
You got a hoodie on.
Dan Patrick
Take it all.
Manny
I'm Manny.
Dan Patrick
I'm Noah.
Devin
This is Devin.
Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? Well, I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same, Go off on me.
Dan Patrick
I deserve it, you know? Lock him up.
Manny
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Dan Patrick
No Such Thing.
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Dan Patrick
We choose to go to the moon.
John Lithgow
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Caller/Listener
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John Lithgow
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Dan Patrick
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John Lithgow
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Dan Patrick
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Devin
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Manny
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Dan Patrick
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Devin
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Noah de Barrasso
I'm NOAH and I'm 13. And I started this podcast because, honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know, with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de arrasto on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or where you get your podcast.
Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, final hour on this Friday. It's a Meat Friday. And in case you're wondering, and I know you are, what's on the menu? We have beef strip loin roast. We have roast beef, sliders, corn on the cob, asparagus and mashed potatoes. Who has it better than we do?
Caller/Listener
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Dan Patrick
Steve Young, hall of Famer, will join us. Hall of Famer John Fogarty, who gave us so many great songs when he was lead singer of Creedence Clearwater Revival, his bat shaped guitar that he performed center field. That song is going into the Baseball hall of Fame and they're inducting the song as well. He'll join us coming up here in a little bit. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates. We're in over 400 cities around America. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. NASCAR on NBC and Peacock. The playoffs NASCAR cup series closes out the regular season in prime time on the high banks of Daytona. Saturday 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock. Seaton. What's the poll question for the final hour of this program?
Poll Commentator
We got up there right now. Which quarterback had the wonkiest career? Steve Young, Kurt Warner. Nick Foles. I feel like this is a little unfair. I don't know. People are like, why is Steve Young on this list? Because he, I don't know that they're properly understanding exactly what the poll question about. Nick Foles is running away with this one at 59%. Then Kurt Warner. Steve Young only has, you know, about 5% of that vote. But he did have a wonky career. Yes, in terms of it was very successful. Obvious hall of Famer, he's one of the greats of all time. But his route to get there was abnormal.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. You start out in the usfl, he comes out of BYU and then he goes to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is terrible. And then the Niners trade for him and he sits for four years. He doesn't become a Pro Bowler until 31. And he has a six year window where he put up hall of Fame numbers. I mean, that's not the traditional path to get into the Pro Football hall of Fame. Kurt Warner, kind of the same way. Greatest you go from a nobody to Then you're a somebody. Trent Green gets hurt, he comes in, greatest show on turf. Mvp, win a Super bowl, go to another Super Bowl. Then all of a sudden, you end up with the Giants and you're backing up Eli Manning, and then you go to Arizona and you take them to the Super Bowl. Those aren't direct routes to get into the Pro Football hall of Fame, but Kurt Warner and Steve Young took those indirect routes. Nick Foles is not a Hall of Famer, and that's why he's winning this. All right, a couple of phone calls. John in Cincinnati. Hi, John. What's on your mind today?
Caller/Listener
Hi, adp. Longtime listener called a few times. I need your advice. Today. We are in the car on the way to Athens, Ohio, to drop my daughter off her freshman year. She's going to be abroad, podcast journalism major. So we need your advice for me as a dad dropping off and for.
Dan Patrick
Her as an aspiring journalism student. Can you help us out? I. John, you're proud of your daughter, and you show her the great respect by not being emotional, that you're confident. She's going to be great. Let her. Let her. See, now she's in the car probably hearing this. So it's going to take away from that moment. But I always wanted to show my kids, especially my three daughters, that I trusted, I believed in them, and we gave them kind of a great background or a head start and getting to college and being able to handle everything that goes along with that. So be confident, be proud of her, and let her know that as far as your daughter getting to Ohio University, volunteer for everything. Campus radio, campus newspaper. If there's a local TV station that you can work on weekends, you can work nights, whatever it is, you must outwork everybody else, and that'll give you a chance to be able to do this for a living. But good luck, John, with the trip and to your daughter.
Caller/Listener
Thank you so much.
Dan Patrick
All right. Yeah. That my voice would quiver when I would say goodbye to my daughters. My wife said, be strong. You said, you're going to be strong. I'm like, I. I am. I think I'm being strong. Mike in Wisconsin. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today, Dan? Hey, Mike.
Caller/Listener
I just thought I would. Hello, Dan.
Dan Patrick
Hey, Mike.
Caller/Listener
Hey, Dan.
Dan Patrick
Hey, Mike. Hey, Dan. See you, Mike. Oh, have a good one. Anywho, one of my favorite guests of all time, Steve Young, joining us on the program. How you feeling, Dan? Great.
Devin
How are you, buddy?
Dan Patrick
I'm good. I'm good. I saw you in the documentary on.
Devin
The Cowboys Yeah, I haven't. I gotta watch that. I haven't seen it. Was it good? Was I.
Dan Patrick
You're always good, but I. I didn't learn anything from it, and I've been around it too long, so that's probably on me, that I've heard all the stories. Therefore you knew everything. Yes. Yes. But if you're young, if you're 30 or younger, then you're probably saying, oh, that's when we used to be really good.
Devin
But, yeah, it is weird. It's weird that the Cowboys have struggled for so long, yet they're still America's team. And Jerry's done a great job of that. Right. He's created this image. And I was talking to Jason Garrett the other day, ironically, about it. Like the. You. You know, you.
John Fogerty
You.
Devin
You go out, you try out for the Cowboys, you make the team, and now you're. Now you're special, but you're. You're actually not. You got to go earn it. And I've always had to. I always said that the Cowboys should start with no stars on their helmet, and then when they get the 10 wins, put a star on, and then when you get to the playoffs, you know, or you get in the champion, you get another star. And then, like, because otherwise it feels like there's something that's special about you. But it's. But there's. But it's not. You have to go earn it. So it's a weird dynamic with the Cowboys because of what they've done with America's team.
Dan Patrick
But that was your rival. When you were with the Niners, would you consider the Cowboys your main rival?
Devin
Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? They were amazing. They were. They. They were. They were amazing. They were. They were. They were a fantastic team, and beating them was monumental. I mean, I was just. And they were as good as anyone you've ever seen, so that's just a fact.
Dan Patrick
But who was the. The person like that? That's the. The most important person on the Cowboys was who.
Devin
I mean, they were loaded, and you always see the quarterback with Troy, but, I mean, it was. In many ways, you know, they had a. We gave him Charles Haley. I mean, that was a great move, right? 1981, right? When I thinker. Let's hand you a Hall of Fame defensive end just in time speaking to make our lives miserable. That's awesome. That was just. That was the best we've ever made. That was great. But, I mean, Emmett was the guy that rent. Like, you know, Emmett just, you know, that was. That was what they did, right. They. They played off of Emmett and then throwing the ball, play action and Michael down. I mean, there's just. There was just hall of Famers everywhere, right? That's just the fact.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And then Jimmy Johnson, you know, the architect there with. And back then, it felt like he had more control or more say, than Jerry did. But does. Does Jerry know? Because it was, what, I don't know how many. Six months ago, eight months ago, when you were on our show and you talked about that. The problem is Jerry Jones. That didn't come up in the documentary, did it?
Devin
No, of course not. We did talk about it, and it's pretty obvious. So it's not like it's a hot take or anything because the owner has not empowered anybody else to go in. In the locker room and threaten to fire anyone. Because if, as a coach, you have to be able to lock. Walk in the locker room and people have to have. Not fear, but at least the respect that I am going to make this team. And if, you know, I'm going to form it in my image and if I, if you don't, you know, do what I ask or, like, do it well or do, you know, this is a. This is a place for elite performers. I'm going to have. You're going to go. And when you walk in the locker room and nobody really believes that you have that power. You can't. It's impossible. The foot, you know, you know, NFL, it's just. It's so intense and so competitive. They lose something there. And. And I think Jerry. Jimmy Johnson had it. We all get that. We all recognize that Jerry didn't like it. You know, we've kind of. That was, you know, I don't think that's a hot take either. And has never really, in my mind, empowered anybody to come in and really take control of the team and be able to run it. Not run it, but able to coach it with authority. And I think that's a. That's a. That's a big piece. And any coach would tell you that it's a big piece of being able to get a great team together.
Dan Patrick
He's Steve Young, the Hall of Fame quarterback. If I would have told you in Tampa you're going to go to the hall of Fame when you were with the Buccaneers, what would you have said?
Devin
I said, well, James Wilder and Jimmy Giles are going to be amazing because we had. We had good play like we were. We didn't win. But I always said we weren't losers like, like James Wilder, I don't even know that name at all. But these guys that I played with were not losers. We just didn't have the superstructure to go get it done. So I don't, I would have said, how exactly is this going to happen? But I will tell you that in the middle of it, I had, I think I had a coach, Jimmy Ray, who, you know, turned to me a couple of times, just said, look, you're going to be good, so just hang in there. Like, you know, we've got to get some help, but you're going to be good. And I think I took that as a flare or a signal that like, things are going to be okay. But hall of Fame, you know, I mean, who, who says when their first year, when they're losing? Oh, I'm, oh, I'm a Hall of Famer. Yeah, that's going to be great. You know, I'm, I'm killing it, man. It's, it's going so good. I can't wait to lose another 12 games.
Dan Patrick
I think, I think you were three and 16 as a starter.
Devin
Oh, thanks, Dan. I appreciate it. You're always on top of that. Hey, that was. Those three were hard fought, man.
Dan Patrick
I'll bet they were. I'll bet they were. Where do you stand on rookie quarterbacks starting games?
Devin
It's more likely today because the difference between college and pro has really narrowed because of world changes. You and I have talked about this at length and it's really limited defense's ability to launch their bodies and patrol the, the field. And so it slowed the game down. And so it's allowed for college type offenses to start to infiltrate the NFL maybe. And the innovators with, you know, Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid and Sean Payton. Eight years ago, when the, when the world changes, they were, they thrived, right, because they were innovative in, in, into this new, this new rule, this new game that's got more space. And so you get to one of those guys as a rookie, I think there's a chance that things could go really well. And I think because they now can run offenses, you can show up with Caleb Williams and say, look, we're going to run stuff that you're comfortable with because they can. Wasn't the case in the old days. They couldn't run college stuff. They get smashed. But today you can run college offenses. And really, if you watch the pros in the college game, they're very, very similar. And in that way it helps rookie quarterbacks transition, especially guys that are going to make it. And it's a, it's a, it's a sign that now you'll go back to Tampa Bay. You might question about Tampa. You still need lots of help. And there are a dozen teams in the league that I would not want my son to go play quarterback for. But there's more. There were only seven or six or five back in the day that I want my son to go play quarterback for. So it's gotten a lot better. Two thirds of the league, I think pretty good imaginative. And they've all come from that, that tree. Vandy Reid, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan and Sean, I mean those are those all the coaches that have infiltrated the NFL with all this innovation is pretty much every, you know, ubiquitous in the league today. So but you know, rookies have a shot.
Dan Patrick
And because of that, Brock Purdy went from a feel good story. Mr. Irrelevant. You know, competing in big games and now you get that big paycheck and now the expectations come with that. Can you speak to that of what that feels like or where the pressure now you got to produce and you got a lot of your weapons either traded away or injured.
Devin
It's a new hurdle. Every quarterback that is going to be good or great is going to face those kinds of hurdles, right? You're going to get paid and in the NFL it's going to be a thing. And now you have to deal that, deal with that with your teammates because it's just so uneven in, in pay scale and how, in attention and, and Brock has done an amazing job being very humble, very team oriented, very I'm, you know, one all for one and one for all. And it's been really easy to, you know, make that true because he was getting paid less than everybody. So that does, that dynamic does change, Dan. And so you have to kind of jump over that hurdle or walk through that filter and play through it. And so that's going to start this season. And that's a piece of it. There are people that have failed at, at that transition and never really got a hand, you know, kind of handle on it. I think Brock's going to handle it really well. Now you get to the part where you said, well who's going to help me? Do I have the guys? And it's certainly different than two years ago. This team was completely loaded last two years ago and today it's had to transition and, and some of it because they paid him. So we get that. I've said this many times. But this year is one of those years where if you're a fan of the 49ers, the jerseys that you're wearing right now on opening day. Yeah, we get that, you know, Kittle and Purdy and Warner, you know, and that kind of thing. But. And McCaffrey. But if we're going to actually give him enough help and he's going to be able to get to the dis, you know, go the distance or get close to the, you know, the super bowl, you're going to have to be wearing by Thanksgiving jerseys that you don't know right now. Guys that showed up, either drafted like, you know, or come onto the team, and now all of a sudden they've made such big, you know, addition to the team. You're now wearing their jersey by Thanksgiving. And that's the kind of season we have to have to actually be able to do it. So there's young players, rookies everywhere that have to be big time to make it all work.
Dan Patrick
Didn't preseason used to matter to the. To the starters?
Devin
Well, yeah, I mean, preseason with. Look again, rule changes, right? OTAs are really cut down. Time with coaches is cut down. Preseason is really just to kind of get in shape. No one wants to hit, you know, because they don't want to get hurt. They don't want to play because they don't want to get hurt. And the game is really today. Let's gather a bunch of guys through free, you know, whatever it is, put our 50, 50 guys together and let's, you know, throw it out there in September, you know, first week of September. And that's why I say the preseason today is the first month of September. That's. You just want to get out of the preseason, which is September, like 4 and oh would be awesome. 3 and 1. Great. 2 and 2. Fine. You know, but, you know, anything less because you just don't know who you are, what it's going to be. And it's a, it's a. It's a Wild west kind of a thing in September. You just want to try to manage through it because preseason is really a thing of the past. And I think you're even seeing it now because they've reduced the game. Guys don't play and. Yeah, so it's, you know, used to be four games. You played three of them. You know, you started full pads the first day. 2A days like it's. There was a lot more hitting and they just, they won the game. Make the game, I think, theoretically more safe. And I think in some ways because you're not hitting each other and putting yourself at risk in practice in all summer. It's probably true. Less, less risk. But I think that's. The rule changes have been tried to do that and it's really affected. That's why I said the play today. Guys that played before the rule changes would say the sophistication of the game has really been reduced. Is it super competitive still? Absolutely. And I think the fans are like, this is an amazing game because it's so competitive. But the guys that played before the rule changes would say it's really. I don't, I'm not going to say dumbed down, but it's, it's had to be reduced in sophistication just because I don't have the time to actually do everything. That's why the innovators, the guys I mentioned before, are so amazing because they're able to, to innovate into the game when there's such a reduced amount of time to spend with the players.
Dan Patrick
When will Aaron Rodgers look 40, look his age? Like, what part of his game will we see age?
Devin
We, we actually saw it coming off of the Achilles because that's when he was trying to recover and he didn't have his. He's always been able to threaten the line of scrimmage, and I think that's part of his, his game as he ages. You're not going to threaten the line of scrimmage nearly as much with your legs. But I think he's back to a place where he can now have confidence that that is, you know, his body is, is healed and well. And so I think he's going to look, you know, late 30s. Right. I don't think he's going to look that old. But the real, the key to the game, Dan, and that's the problem, is that there's so many yards, there's so many touchdowns out there for free for quarterbacks who threaten the line of scrimmage and especially in the big games. And so that's where he's going to have to decide, do I actually still do that? Because I don't, I don't think it's possible to go the distance without that ability in today's game, because you look at the super bowl and championship games are all won by guys threatening the line of scrimmage and making those big plays and creating that space and, and so that's the challenge for Aaron. But he'll have a. I think he'll have a very good season. I think the Steelers will Be classically, Steelers will play great defense and, and win, win games and, you know, close ones. And he'll, he'll, he'll have a better season than he's had and, and then he'll get into January and see if they can make, make some noise. And I think that'll be, that'll be in a dynamic, you know, you know, focused. You know, Aaron Rodgers is going to be in the mix just because, again, I go back, I don't mean to belabor this, but he was, he was born and bred in a more sophisticated era, so he can take advantage. That's why he's still playing. That's why Tom wanted to play. That's why Peyton wanted to. Peyton was so pissed because his arm fell off. Like, he's, like, I could still do this 10 years because I'm playing in an era where they can't hit me. The middle of the field's unpatrolled and the flats are open, so let's go. And I think that Aaron knows that.
Dan Patrick
And Brady could still play, couldn't he?
Devin
He could still start, I think to me, learning in a more sophisticated area now, playing today, as long as your arm is, you know, that's Drew Brees lost his arm, right?
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Devin
I mean, Tom, if his arm is still there, you can, I think you can still play. I don't know how. You know, at some point, you know, you slow down enough where you can't make the throw that you need to make and it just shows up and defenses start to creep and, and then you start taking the air out of the room and pretty soon you just can't, you know, first downs become really hard. I mean, that's inevitable. But as far as just, you know, if your arm is still in pretty good shape, you can play for a while.
Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you as always. Thanks for joining us.
Devin
Yeah, you're the man.
Dan Patrick
Steve Young, hall of Famer. We'll take a break. Another hall of Famer, John Fogarty, will join us, the rock and roll hall of Famer, right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Devin
He's Mike Harmon. I'm Dan Byard. We have a fantasy football podcast called I want your flexed.
Dan Patrick
That's right, Dan. Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo. Your fantasy lineup sits, starts fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate the competition.
Devin
Listen to I Want yout Flex with Mike Harmon and me, Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts and wherever you get your.
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Manny
Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
Dan Patrick
Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.
Manny
Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this, pull that, turn this. It's just I do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.
Noah de Barrasso
I'm Noah, this is Devin.
Manny
And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.
Dan Patrick
Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.
Manny
And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.
Dan Patrick
See?
Manny
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John Lithgow
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Dan Patrick
We choose to go to the moon.
John Lithgow
I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast, F1 Small Step for Man. It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.
Dan Patrick
You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.
John Lithgow
That's the story you think you know, this is the story.
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John Lithgow
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John Fogerty
What do you say?
Devin
Buzz?
John Fogerty
Another beer.
John Lithgow
And triumph over addiction.
Devin
Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.
John Lithgow
Good luck to you and become a true hero.
Dan Patrick
Buzz and I will proceed into the.
John Lithgow
Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.
Devin
Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.
John Lithgow
Starring me, John Lithgow.
Devin
Can you put it through?
John Lithgow
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Noah de Barrasso
Columbia, I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you know with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything, Sheesh. Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.
John Fogerty
You kidding me?
Noah de Barrasso
Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Noah de Barrasso
Most pressing news, they're creating this narrative that immigrants are criminals.
Dan Patrick
This is about everyone's freedom of speech. Nobody expected two popes from the American.
Maria Hinojosa
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Devin
When you do get a trans character like Emilia Perez, the trans community is going to push back on that colorism.
Noah de Barrasso
All of these things that exist in.
Maria Hinojosa
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Noah de Barrasso
I'M not going to give them my fear.
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Dan Patrick
He's still out there on the road, rocking. John Fogerty, singer, songwriter, hall of Famer, just turned 80 in May, and today a new album, Legacy, is being released as he re recorded some of his most beloved songs with the help of his sons Shane and Ty. Have you seen the Rain, Fortunate Sun, Proud Mary, Bad Moon Rising, but a big baseball fan. His song Center Field, the only song to be officially inducted into the Baseball hall of Fame, as we make way for John Fogarty, former lead singer of Credence Clearwater Revival. John, great to talk to you again. What was your reaction when you realized that the bat, guitar and the song Center Field were becoming part of the Baseball hall of Fame?
John Fogerty
Oh, that was right around maybe a couple months before it actually happened. It was right around the time that it occurred. I didn't get a lot of time to think about all the implications. You know, I, I was certainly very proud. Still proud.
Dan Patrick
And then who, whose idea was it to make a guitar out of a baseball bat or resemble a baseball bat?
John Fogerty
Oh, that was my idea. I'd written Center Field, you know, more or less deciding that that's kind of where my mind had been over the all the years of my life, you know, and just felt comfortable about, you know, center field as an album was kind of a comeback for me, you might say, career wise. And the place to me that was sort of ground zero was center field. It seemed like especially on a lot of teams, the, the alpha male on the team seemed to be the center fielder, you know, like Willie Mays with the Giants or back in the day, Babe Ruth before they moved him to right field. I think Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, you know, he. Go on. But anyway, and so I wrote the song and then eventually decided to name the album Center Field. Actually, it's the reverse. I named the album Center Field and didn't have a song. And then I came up with that guitar lick, you know, and realized that I started, I started just saying the things I said in life. I'd watch the Saturday game of the week, baseball. You know, there was one game on TV on Saturday and I'd sit down and watch that and I'd be yelling at the screen and screen, you know, like we do, and something good happened or bad. And sometimes it'd be a phenom, you know, and something going, not going well, with the team you're rooting for. And I'd be yelling, put me in, coach. Put me. You know, it's just, you know, how you enjoy and interact with the game. And all of that stuff started coming out when I was playing that guitar lick, and I realized I had a song that could be center field. So that came first. The album came out in 85, and it was a big success and all that. And I decided, well, you know, I'm going to be touring pretty soon. Wow, it'd be cool to be able to play center field on a baseball bat. So that's how it started for me.
Dan Patrick
Now, clear up something, because I think I asked you about this a while ago that you say brown eyed handsome man, and I thought you were talking about Joe DiMaggio because he played center field. And you said, it's not about Joe DiMaggio, it's about Jackie Robinson.
John Fogerty
Absolutely. I realize he's not the center fielder, and I guess I took a little tributary in the musical world there, but it just seemed important to me that that's a line that's in a Chuck Berry song, brown eyed handsome man, and he talks about round and third, headed for home. And so that I just sort of borrowed that in my homage to Jackie Robinson. After all, if I'm writing a baseball song, he better be in there.
Dan Patrick
We're talking to John Fogarty, formerly of Credence Clearwater Revival Rock and Roll hall of Famer, has a new album called Legacy that comes out today. Some re recordings with his sons, Shane and Tyler. You got fortunate, son. Have you seen the rain? Proud Mary. So tell me, what went into this project?
John Fogerty
Well, you know, I recently got my songs back, the ownership a couple years ago, and that's a great big deal to any songwriter, of course, or any writer of any kind of material. And so finally, after more than 50 years of trying, I finally got the ownership of those songs back. It was actually facilitated by my dear wife, Julie. She's the one that really manifested this and made it happen. You know, she's a force of nature and God bless her. So with that in mind, finally accomplishing that, it just seemed kind of a natural progression to here in the present. You know, I just turned 80 this year, and the idea basically was, well, what do you do? What kind of a gift would I like? So I decided to give myself a gift and record a lot of the old Creedence songs I had written so many years ago again. And hopefully it would be be seen as a gift also to my fans and that was the motivation this time involving my family, meaning my wife and certainly my sons, Shane and Tyler, who are in my band, and they helped produce the record as well. So it was a family endeavor and, you know, a lot of love in that respect, making this record.
Dan Patrick
Take me back to Woodstock. What day were you on with Creedence Clearwater Revival?
John Fogerty
Well, it was supposed to be on Saturday night. The man on the phone had promised me that I. Prime spot, you know, the headlining spot on Saturday night. It's going to be nine o', clock, man. That's prime time. But things got later and later and later. This was, of course, during the era of hippies. I'm not sure anybody actually had a watch, but the whole. The whole program got later and later. And somewhere around midnight of Saturday, the Grateful Dead went on, and then they sort of stalled around on stage for a while. Nobody quite knew what was going on. I believe Credence went on Sunday morning, early around.
Dan Patrick
Were you there when Hendrix set his guitar on fire?
John Fogerty
No, that was actually Monday morning. That was after the whole night of Sunday. You know, the whole festivities of the Sunday evening going into 12am and 1 and 2 and 3. Then the sun came up, and that's Monday morning when Jimmy went on.
Dan Patrick
The difference in your voice now at 80, as opposed to 30.
John Fogerty
Well, my. I know my falsetto is not quite as strong and pure as it used to be. You know, it's a little different around the edges, I think, but it's certainly as strong. I'm certainly as loud as I ever was, and that's probably as much I. I've been a runner all my life, and so I think all those miles of running kind of helped my stamina.
Dan Patrick
Well, congrats on a great run, and it's not over. He's a Rock and Roll hall of Famer as a songwriter and, of course, as a singer. My best to the family, certainly. Julie and John, thank you for joining us.
John Fogerty
Thank you, Dan. It's always great to see you.
Dan Patrick
John Fogarty. The album is Legacy, being released today. I met him. I'm trying to think how many years ago this. Almost 10 years ago at Howard Stern's 60th birthday party. And Gary Dellibate, Howard's longtime producer, invited me to come on and introduce Dave Grohl. And I said, okay. But I get there, and immediately I'm told by somebody, hey, John Fogarty wants to meet you. I'm thinking, all right, this is. I mean, it's the Howard Stern show. So I'm, you know, somebody's Punking me here. You know, Baba Bowie is going to jump out or, you know, stuttering John or somebody. And I. I go back, you know, through these hallways, and all of a sudden, I just walked up to a door and knock on the door, and John's wife answers. I said, I'm supposed to say hello to John. And she goes, he's been waiting for you. I walk in, and there he is. He's got his plaid shirt, his signature plaid shirt on, and he listens every morning in Los Angeles. And I said, okay, this has already proven to be a great night. Then I go back into this kind of a green room, and I got Slash from Guns N Roses, and I got Dave Grohl. You know, you got all these people, and they're kind of getting ready to go on and have their performances. And I walk up to Dave Grohl, and I said, hey, I'm introducing you. He goes, I don't know anything about sports. My daughters play lacrosse. I said, well, I'm. Yeah, that has nothing to do with the introduction. He goes, yeah, this is what I want you to say that I. I grew up listening to Howard on a ham radio. And I. I said, okay. And then I just wanted to get it over with because, I mean, I had already had my highlight. I met John Fogarty. Go out, say hello to Robin, say hello to Howard, introduce Dave Grohl, and then I'm out the door. But, you know, one of those surreal moments, because there's John Fogarty, rock and Roll hall of Famer, and gave us so many great songs with Credence. Jeff in Florida. Hi, Jeff. What's on your mind today?
Caller/Listener
Hey, I was telling the guy on the phone. I. I had kind of an interesting story about John Fogarty. In a very roundabout kind of a way. I introduced him to Julie.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Caller/Listener
I was living in Fort Wayne, Indiana, at the time, and she was a hairdresser, and she was.
Dan Patrick
Oh, no, thank you, Jeff. Okay.
Poll Commentator
It's like he was getting through one more layer of screening before he really told the story. This is the part where you tell the story about how you did that.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. That was why you called in to tell me the story about how you set up.
Poll Commentator
This is where you want to do that part of it.
Dan Patrick
Anywho, okay. If you're watching on Peacock, we're going out to the. The Grills and to meet Friday, so we'll have that for you coming up. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow or. No, I don't know what's in store tomorrow. We'll tell you what's in store for Monday. This day in sports history. We'll try to do all of those things. Coming up, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor Day.
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Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
Dan Patrick
Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and.
Caller/Listener
We need someone, anyone to land this plane.
Manny
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Dan Patrick
I'm Noah. This is Devin.
Manny
And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.
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Manny
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John Lithgow
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Dan Patrick
We choose to go to the moon.
John Lithgow
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You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.
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John Fogerty
What do you say, Buzz? Another beer.
John Lithgow
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Devin
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John Lithgow
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Dan Patrick
Buzz and I will proceed into the.
John Lithgow
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Devin
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Dan Patrick
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Devin
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Dan Patrick
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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
Here we go. Marvin. Ever since I was a tiny boy.
Devin
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Dan Patrick
Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store for Monday. Chris Collinsworth on Monday and the former college coach Rick Neuheisel will recap the college football weekend. By the way, Tommy DeVito was 17 of 20 in the Giants win over the Patriots. His passer rating is the highest by any Giants QB with at least 10 attempts in a preseason game in the last decade. Okay.
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Poll Commentator
Who had a more wonky career? Let's see if that has changed up a little bit. Nuts. Still Nick Foles. Still Nick Foles. Steve Young has gone down to less than 5% of that vote. We also put up there based on meat Friday. Corn is better on the cob or off? Oh, you want to guess?
Dan Patrick
On the cob.
Poll Commentator
On the cob's got about. Paul, 79%.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Street corn. Yeah, yeah.
Poll Commentator
All you need, a little salt, little butter.
Dan Patrick
Morgan in Maryland. Hey, Morgan, what's on your mind today?
Caller/Listener
Adp I have two things. One about the Cowboys and one about Marvin's proposal question. So if Jerry Jones is on tv, I'm not a Cowboys fan by any means, but I'm watching him because some of his decision making and things that he does is just so bizarre. He reminds me of like my 4 year old sometimes. Like, you know, that probably wasn't the best decision or you shouldn't have done that. And he will never admit that he's wrong. He'll just keep on going. And then Marvin's proposal question. My husband did ask my parents, you know, permission to marry me, but I was already four and a half months pregnant and it wasn't a secret. So like, was it a moot point then.
Dan Patrick
He should have asked for Permission for something else.
Caller/Listener
That's what I'm saying.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Morgan. Thank you. Have a great weekend. Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind today?
Caller/Listener
Adp, thanks for taking my call to continue on with the Jerry Jones topic. I kind of compare what he's doing right now to Coach K at the beginning of the one and done era and wasn't really willing to switch up his style. And I think that's what Jerry's been doing for the last 20 or 30 years. And do you see Stephen changing it up once Jerry moves on?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I don't. It's a good question. I don't know Stephen Jones. I don't know if I've ever met him, but, I mean, his dad was a brilliant businessman. Has been a brilliant, brilliant businessman. But that doesn't mean he's always made the right decisions here. But maybe Stephen. Maybe he will delegate and truly delegate. Yes. Marv, quick question.
Devin
Maybe it's a little bit too late, but if not the Cowboys, who do you guys consider to be America's team?
Dan Patrick
Well, I don't consider the Cowboys to be America's team.
Devin
I know that. That's why I said, if not the Cowboys.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I don't have an America's team.
Devin
You have to.
Dan Patrick
Oh, I do. Are the Kansas City Chiefs America's team? They're front runners. Then they become that. It should not be America's team by any stretch. Okay, who should be Todd? If I had to pick one, I might say, like the Steelers or the Packers. I also would throw the Bills in there, even though it's just in upstate or western New York. But I think people can rally behind.
Devin
The Bills, finally winning one.
Dan Patrick
Satan. What?
Poll Commentator
Is there a difference between being America's team and the most popular team in America?
Dan Patrick
Maybe not.
Poll Commentator
I don't know that America's team's not even a real thing. It's just something that the Cowboys made up, so it doesn't even really exist. And that the most popular team just sort of fluctuates. If there was an American team, it's obviously the Patriots, of course.
Dan Patrick
This day in sports history. Paul, let's see what I got for you. I got 1951, 75,000 people attended a Harlem Globetrotters game. Largest crowd at that point ever to see a basketball game in person, in person seems redundant. And in 1998, 1989, Nolan Ryan became the first major league pitcher to strike out 5,000 batters. That's it. He struck out Ricky Henderson. 1965, Juan Marichell, Giants pitcher Hit the Dodgers catcher John Roseborough in the head with his bat. And then you had a brawl between those two teams that lasted almost 15 minutes. But Marichell was at the plate and Roseborough was catching. Sandy Koufax, I believe was on the mound for that incident there. We got college football coming up tomorrow. Got a lot of games highlighted by the game in Dublin, Iowa State, K State. Yes, Paul, you have a bunch more too like Idaho State, UNLV, even little ones like UCA Davis vs Mercer and NC Central vs Southern, all on national TV. A lot of national TV games on all the channels. That sounds great. Got golf coming up this weekend as well with the Tour Championship. Let's see Nick in Indianapolis. Hi Nick, how are you?
Caller/Listener
Hey dp. First time, long time and I have a little stat. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but I have something that's a double alma mater I share with this guy, high school and my brother still coaches there in college. So Zach Martin, he was a two time state champion Under Armour, All American, two team ncaa, second team NCAA All American, first round draft pick by the Cowboys out of Notre Dame. Seven time first team all pro, nine time pro bowler. He was part of the 2010 all decade team. He had seven holding penalties in 11 years. He had as many all pro than he did holding penalties. I just think that's pretty remarkable.
Dan Patrick
That's awesome. Thank you for that, Nick. Zach Martin, future hall of Famer. Let me sneak in James in Virginia real quick. James.
Caller/Listener
Oh, thank you for taking my call, brother. Happy Friday. D.P. dan. That's man. I just want to let you guys know dp you are an honorary grandfather. Dan, that's your honorary uncles because I got a first time, first time here. DP hailing from the great state of Virginia.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Caller/Listener
1 foot 8 inches weighing 7 pounds 12 ounces. It is the blue eyed dreamer, James Hunter Edwards IV.
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Devin
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Take it all.
Manny
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A blend of sports and music, Dan Patrick welcomes NFL Hall of Famer Steve Young to discuss the evolving importance of the NFL preseason, modern quarterback dynamics, and the Dallas Cowboys’ organizational woes. Later, Rock & Roll Hall of Famer John Fogerty joins to celebrate his new album and shares stories behind iconic songs, his baseball fandom, and reflections on music, family, and legacy.
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Steve Young on NFL Coaching Power:
“The owner has not empowered anybody else to go in the locker room and threaten to fire anyone. [...] You have to be able to coach with authority, and I think that’s a big piece.” (10:54–12:18)
Steve Young on the Modern Game:
“Guys that played before the rule changes would say the sophistication of the game has really been reduced. Is it super competitive still? Absolutely.” (19:39)
John Fogerty on Legacy and Family:
“So I decided to give myself a gift and record a lot of the old Creedence songs I had written so many years ago again. [...] It was a family endeavor and, you know, a lot of love in that respect.” (34:29)
John Fogerty on “Center Field”:
“Put me in, coach. [...] All of that started coming out when I was playing that guitar lick, and I realized I had a song that could be center field.” (31:26–32:29)
Depth, nostalgia, and candor define this hour. Dan Patrick keeps the conversation humorous yet insightful, whether tackling the NFL’s shifting landscape with Steve Young or celebrating the resilience and creativity of John Fogerty. Both guests blend humility and expert perspective—Young on adapting to the evolving NFL, Fogerty on reclaiming and sharing musical legacy with family.
For listeners:
You’ll walk away with a deeper appreciation of how NFL culture and music history continue to evolve, the impact of leadership (both in sports and creative rights), and a reinforcement of the value of hard work, family, and embracing new chapters.