Hour 3 – The DK Metcalf Rule, Reggie Miller

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: The DK Metcalf Rule, Reggie Miller

Date: March 31, 2026
Podcast Networks: iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Episode Focus: NFL rule changes, MVP debates, NCAA basketball, and an in-depth interview with Reggie Miller

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Episode Overview

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show centers around developing NFL rule changes (including the so-called "DK Metcalf Rule"), Final Four and Masters updates, humorous banter on flat Earth theories, and a comprehensive discussion with NBA legend Reggie Miller. Together, they dissect the current MVP race, analyze recent NCAA drama, and muse about naming the forthcoming Las Vegas NBA franchise. The atmosphere is light, witty, and deeply informed, characteristic of Dan and his crew.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL League Meeting Updates & Rule Proposals

Timestamp: 02:46–10:09

• NFL Rule Changes in Focus:

  • Dan discusses how last year’s hot topic, the Tush Push, has fizzled out from league meetings because its dominance and safety concerns no longer seem pressing after defenses adapted.

    “If the Eagles had won the Super Bowl this past year, Tush Push would be on the agenda. You imagine the Eagles win the Super Bowl on a Tush Push? Oh my God. People will be apoplectic.” – Dan Patrick (06:10)

  • Onside Kick Tweaks: Now proposed as available at any point in a game, as opposed to only in the fourth quarter while trailing—but a declaration is still likely needed because of formation differences (06:24–08:07).
  • The "DK Metcalf Rule": Sky judges will now be able to eject/penalize players for altercations with fans even if field officials miss it (06:54).

• Panel’s Take:

  • Universal dislike for rules requiring the team to "share their strategy" ahead of onside kicks.
  • Suggestions for reducing collisions, including outlandish "one-on-one" onside recoveries (08:46).

• Big Picture:

  • NFL’s push for global expansion via flag football and international games (09:09), with jokes about “four corners of the Earth” segueing into a riff on flat Earth conspiracies.

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2. Humor and Pop Culture Banter

Timestamp: 10:09–14:31

• Flat Earth Jokes:
  • Lively banter about flat Earth believers:

    “What happens when you get to the end of the Earth?” – Dan Patrick (10:15)

  • Using viral videos to poke fun at failed flat Earth experiments.
  • Buzz Aldrin’s legendary confrontation with a conspiracy theorist:

    “There should be a law. You land on the moon, you could punch out one person.” – Paul (12:48)

  • The show keeps the mood light, with persistent callbacks to “falling off the back of the supermarket” and multiple playful jabs.

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3. Listener Calls: MVPs, Team Names, and Tiger Woods

Timestamp: 14:32–18:13

• Callers’ Topics:
  • Nicknames for Las Vegas sports teams (mobsters, double down, etc.).
  • A basketball hypothetical: Which position group (all centers, all guards, etc.) would win a championship? Dan and Reggie promise to revisit the question.
  • A thoughtful call about Tiger Woods, pain management, and public judgment—leading Dan to clarify his commentary about Tiger’s substance incidents (16:41–17:28).

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4. Reggie Miller Joins for NBA & NCAA Talk

Timestamp: 22:23–41:54

a. NBA MVP Debate

Timestamp: 22:56–28:42

• SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) as MVP:
  • Reggie’s pick: “If we are going to give out the highest award in our game… I’m going with SGA just for the simple fact: minutes played.” (23:15)
  • SGA's minutes and impact vs. Wemby (Victor Wembanyama) and others; emphasis on SGA's two-way game.
  • Dan notes media inconsistencies in judging defensive value (24:58):

    “If we’re going to use that, then Wemby defensively is an A plus, correct?” – Dan Patrick

  • They agree: Jokic is the best all-around player, but SGA is this year’s MVP, with Wemby poised to win soon.

b. NCAA Tournament: Duke-UConn, "The Shot" & Dan Hurley

Timestamp: 28:42–34:22

• Duke's Collapse:

  • Reggie emphasizes the importance of situational basketball after Duke’s turnover set up Yukon’s Braylon Mullins for a game-winning three:

    “There was no reason for Boozer to attempt to throw the ball over... All Kaden had to do was hold on to the basketball, escape dribble… they were going to foul him.” – Reggie Miller (29:02)

  • “This too shall pass” – Reggie reassures the young player after the high-pressure mistake.
  • Dan describes the play:

    “You see the trailer. Always worry about the trailer, and he finds Mullins who was wide open from 37 feet out.” (30:33)

  • Mullins, an Indiana native, makes a “logo shot” to send UConn to the Final Four:

    “That’s a 35, 40 foot shot to advance your team to the Final Four. Kudos to you, Mr. Mullins.” – Reggie Miller (32:06)

• Dan Hurley’s Sideline Antics & the Refs’ Discretion:

  • Reggie praises the officials for not imposing a technical foul despite Hurley’s emotional, physical confrontation:

    “I am surprised a technical foul was not called… What a moment for Braylon Mullins, for UConn basketball—it could have been mired in controversy if that official blew the whistle…” – Reggie Miller (33:33)

  • Dan suggests mutual understanding between coach and ref, “That’s two people… who understood each other.” (34:13)

c. Reggie’s Relationship with Duke, Knicks, and More

Timestamp: 34:45–37:54

• Reggie clarifies he doesn’t hate Duke but feels they, like the Knicks, always “think they’re better than everyone else.” (34:49)
• Dan points out the Knicks haven’t won since 1973.
• Reggie, playfully, is pressed on Carl Anthony Towns’ reputation and Jalen Brunson’s value on defense by taking charges. Danny and Reggie agree:

  “You can hate on Cat all you want. I’m never gonna hate on Jalen Brunson…” – Reggie Miller (36:44) “That dude, I love Jalen Brunson. I don’t want Carl Anthony Towns.” – Dan Patrick (36:55)

d. Vegas NBA Franchise Name Ideas

Timestamp: 37:54–40:14

• The group jokes through varied franchise name ideas:
  • Mobsters: universally disliked.
  • Strip/high rollers: considered too risqué.
  • Gambling themes: tricky territory for the NBA.
• Reggie reveals he’s not much of a gambler these days, shares his old roulette number picks (including jersey numbers of iconic NBA players).

e. Reggie & Dan’s Chemistry

Timestamp: 40:49–41:54

• Endearing back-and-forth about midnight texts and insomnia:

  “My mind’s racing, it’s always racing… that’s why we’re a team.” – Dan Patrick (41:01, 41:08) “We’re a good team. Say nice things about Carl Anthony Towns tonight.” – Dan Patrick (41:10)

  • Reggie promises to be gentle: “He’s got to rotate. Rotate off from the weak side…” (41:13)

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5. Post-Reggie: The Dan Hurley “Headbutt” and Listener Calls

Timestamp: 45:52–49:23

• Dan plays a clip of Dan Hurley explaining the emotional postgame moment with the official that could have been a chest bump—not a confrontation.

  “At that point in the game, we had it won… He [the ref] was just coming over to tell me it was 0.3 on the clock… I was still so hyped from the shot going in…” – Dan Hurley (46:34)

  • The crew remains unconvinced but acknowledges the passion.

• Listener calls bring new Vegas team name ideas (The Desert, The Press, The Line, BLTs), most shot down in good spirit.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NFL Rulemaking:

  “I can’t penalize [the Eagles] because they figured out something and you didn’t.” – Dan Patrick (05:24)

• On Player Safety as a Rulemaking Rationale:

  “They were trying to make up something to get rid of the play.” – Dan Patrick (05:55)

• On SGA as NBA MVP:

  “I am going with SGA right now as the MVP.” – Reggie Miller (28:42)

• On NCAA situational play:

  “All Kaden had to do was hold on to the basketball, escape dribble… they were going to foul him.” – Reggie Miller (29:02)

• On the Dan Hurley Confrontation:

  “I am very surprised that was not called. I give the officiating crew a lot of credit for swallowing their whistles…” – Reggie Miller (33:33)

• On the Knicks’ Self-Image:

  “They just think they're better than everyone else. And that's why it kind of rubs people the wrong way.” – Reggie Miller (35:27)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NFL Rule Change Talk: 02:46–10:09
• Flat Earth Banter: 10:09–14:31
• Listener Calls (Tiger, Team Names): 14:32–18:13
• Reggie Miller Interview: 22:23–41:54
  • MVP Debate: 22:56–28:42
  • NCAA Breakdown: 28:42–34:22
  • Knicks & Duke: 34:45–37:54
  • Vegas Team Names & Gambling: 37:54–40:14
  • Friendship Banter: 40:49–41:54
• Dan Hurley “Headbutt” clip: 45:52–47:50
• Listener call–Team names: 49:23–50:26

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Tone and Style

The episode is classic Dan Patrick: witty, conversational, deeply knowledgeable, and peppered with playful jabs between longtime friends and co-hosts. Reggie Miller’s segment combines smart basketball analysis with personal warmth and humor. The show never loses its light, approachable tone—even when critiquing icons or addressing sports controversies.

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Summary Takeaway

This hour is a rapid-fire tour through the sports world’s current talking points—from nuanced NFL rule debates to March Madness heroics to the intricacies of MVP voting—all delivered with the warmth, expertise, and good-natured ribbing that make Dan Patrick’s show a staple for sports fans. And if you're hoping for a new Vegas team name, the "Mobsters" definitely won't be it.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

Final hour on this Tuesday. Reggie Miller will stop by. He's all fired up. Got strong opinion on Dan Hurley. Also the meltdown by Duke and he wants to tell us who his MVP is this year. That'll be in about 20 minutes from now. This weekend, NBC and Peacock PGA Tour. It's TPC San Antonio at the Valero Texas Open. Coverage begins Saturday 3:30 Eastern followed by the final round on Sunday at 2:30 on NBC and Peacock, which is where you can see this program. Thank you for downloading the app. We say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. I heart radio, Fox Sports Radio as well. Seaton poll question for the final hour of this previously award nominated program. We say good morning everybody.

[Paulie]

We've got two up there right now. How present will Tiger woods be at the Masters? 75% of the audience say he won't be there at all. Just 10% say that he'll play. Decent amount of people say he might be there for some events. I think that's kind of where he's going. I think he's going to show up. But yeah, the things he has to do.

[Dan Patrick]

Final four betting lines. Illinois is now two and a half over, Yukon was one and a half yesterday and Michigan against Arizona. Michigan is still favored by one and a half. 877 3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. The NFL League meetings are going on as we speak. And it was a year ago at this time we were talking about the Tush push and I thought they were going to eliminate it because the Eagles winning a Super bowl, nobody can stop it. Nobody wants to see it. And then all of a sudden they were worried about player safety, the aesthetics of the game. You know, they were giving you all kinds of building reasons why they had to get rid of this play. Haven't heard much about the Tush push, have you? Eagles don't win the super bowl, all of a sudden defense is doing a little better job in stopping. Now Jalen Hurts coming off the edge, making sure they get a good pop on him. They're not even voting on it this year. What happened about the safety of the game? They were trying to make up something. Last year it was the topic at the NFL owners meetings this year, not a peep. It's a topic that is not a topic at the NFL owners meetings, but it's because they know it's here. Maybe it's not going to be used as much. Maybe defenses have figured it out a little bit more so than when we first start. You know, we first saw this, but they were trying to get information on player safety and there it wasn't. There wasn't anything there. They were trying to make up something to get rid of the play. Oh, aesthetically you're right. Aesthetically, it's not pleasing. But the Eagles figured out something before anybody else did. I can't penalize them because they figured out something and you didn't. Now you need to figure out something and see what the Eagles do. But the percentage of Tush pushes and success are down. Therefore nobody's worried about ruining the integrity of the game. I can't even watch that Tush push. But if the Eagles had won the super bowl this past year, Tush push would be on the agenda. You imagine the Eagles win the super bowl on a Tush push. Oh, my God. People will be apoplectic over there. Yes, Paulie.

[Paul]

I have a couple other things that the committee will vote on this coming week. The first one is off the onside kick. The original rule in 2024 limited on site kicks to only the fourth quarter when a team is trailing and they have to announce it, which is almost shocking that they made this rule. This new tweak would say you could do the onside kick at any point during the game. Now, it doesn't say you have to declare. I think you still have to declare because the other team lines up one way, you line up one way. So it could be at any point during the game. Not a surprise, but better. And the other rule would be. They're calling this one, no offense, the DK Metcalf rule. If a player on the sidelines gets into an altercation with a fan like DK Metcalf did, I think that was Detroit. He did not get penalized because the refs on the field didn't see that. If the sky judge sees something like this, the player could be ejected from the game or penalized. That's on the. On the books to vote on.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yes.

[Todd Seaton]

Todd, I'm with Paul. Any rule, we have to share your strategy. That is just insane. How did that ever. How was that ever a thing? That's because I'm throwing a fastball here

[Reggie Miller]

or we're going to pass.

[Todd Seaton]

I'm throwing a screen Pass. Just want to let you know.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, just get rid of it. Like, I. I mean, I. I know you want the onside kick there, but the fact that I have to tell you what's happening. And even, you know, the movement on the onside kick, they don't want collisions. I understand that it's tough in football. Yes. It is a violent sport. I know they don't want it to be even more violent. But the. Hey, we're going to do an onside kick. I don't know. One of the greatest plays in super bowl history. Onside kick by the Saints. Yes.

[Paul]

Paul, here's the issue. The new dynamic kickoff has one lineup, one setup, and when you declare for an onside kick, it's a completely different setup. So you have to have the declaration because they know what you're doing. But there's no talk about them getting rid of the onset, even though the percentage, I think, is 4% were converted.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. The tush push isn't aesthetically pleasing. Neither is this onside kick formation. It's not aesthetically pleasing. I mean, I'll take the regular kickoff. All right. We've gotten used to it. We get some movement there. We've had some, you know, returns. Percentages are up for the returns there. Yes.

[Paul]

Paulie, I have a solution, as I always do. Good idea, bad idea. You want to cut down on collision or people getting collided into. On a nonsight kick. One defender, one turn guy. Those are the only two people in the play. The kicker kicks it, and whoever gets it, you cut down on people getting hit. Just two dudes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but the field's too big for that one guy.

[Paul]

Good times, though.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. The NFL League meetings, though, I think they wrap up today, but I don't think anything is front and center on the agenda. Feels like it's. It's global domination. The flag football is, you know, still a big deal because that. That can give you global entry into certain countries that aren't ready to have tackle football. You know, having the infrastructure for that, having the equipment for that. You can play flag football. You can play the. These NFL teams are going to have their countries. You know, maybe they play their games there. Maybe there's flag football game that's played prior to the NFL game. There's a lot of different things that the NFL is trying to do and, you know, games all, you know, every day of the week. Now we're going to Australia. I mean, we're going to the four corners. Is it the four corners of the earth?

[Paul]

Checking.

[Paulie]

You just want to make sure that's the saying.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah. Didn't know how many quarters there are.

[Paul]

And I check there are no corners.

[Dan Patrick]

There are no corners on the Earth. Yeah. Unless you're a Flat Earther.

[Paulie]

Unless you're a globist and there's no corners.

[Dan Patrick]

But didn't one of the astronauts send a picture? Somebody sent a picture recently just to say, if you're a Flat Earther, this should change all of that. The picture that was sent, I'm like, I don't know. I never understood that with Flat Earthers, like, what happens when you get to the end of the Earth?

[Paul]

Remember we had this discussion. What is the town that's on the edge?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes. Seaton.

[Paulie]

The Internet is loaded with videos of people attempting to prove the Earth is flat and only proving that it's round.

[Caller James]

And it's.

[Paulie]

They're the best videos to watch because they're like, see, I'm telling you, when you fire this, like, laser, it's going to go straight on forever. And they're like, jimmy, you should be

[Dan Patrick]

able to see that. You're so far away.

[Paulie]

And they're like, I can't see it. And be like, all right, we'll move it up a little bit. Move it up a little bit. Move it up. Oh, well, that's weird. I guess the only way that could happen is if the Earth is round.

[Dan Patrick]

It's the best.

[Paulie]

They're the best videos.

[Dan Patrick]

But who came to the conclusion. And then others go, man, you're right. Yes.

[Todd Seaton]

Todd, Is there any. Has anyone ever fallen off, like, a cliff, the edge of the Earth? Like, you could be in the back of a supermarket and you go a little past the parking lot, and you just fall forever out.

[Caller James]

The end.

[Todd Seaton]

What do you think I'm gonna say no? So I don't know what these Flat Earthers are showing unless you have evidence of at least one person physically falling off the earth. When it comes to an end, if

[Dan Patrick]

it's like a square, whatever you do when you're at Whole Foods, don't go out the back door, because then you're gonna fall off my broccoli lawsuit. Yes.

[Paulie]

We are about to get just.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I know.

[Paulie]

Deluge of. Stay in your lane.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Paulie]

Content right now.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. I stay in my lane when I go around the globe.

[Paulie]

You stay in that lane all the way.

[Dan Patrick]

I can. I can keep going round and round and round. Yes, yes, Paulie.

[Paul]

I look back at this. At 5th century BC the Greeks speculated that the Earth was round before that, all flat.

[Dan Patrick]

People thought, yes, Tom.

[Todd Seaton]

But if there's an actual person in space, if NASA people are proving with photos, they're actually up there out there showing that it's round. What person that says, you know, that it's flat has any kind of proof? You would think a space person would have a better idea as to what it looks like.

[Dan Patrick]

It could be fake news.

[Paulie]

They could all in on it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it could be AI. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Who was the video of? I don't remember if it was, like, Buzz Aldrin or somebody, but somebody went up to. Gosh, I don't remember if it was him or not, but they went up to him, like, just on the street. We're like, yeah, moon landing is fake. And he punched him right in the mouth.

[Dan Patrick]

I think that was Buzz Aldrin. I think Buzz Aldrin, who just. I think he just died recently, smashed a dude right in the nose. Like, Buzz Aldrin was all business. There was no nonsense. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paul]

September oh two. Buzz Aldrin leaving the Beverly Hills Hotel, got confronted by a conspiracy person, and he dropped him. There should be a law. You land on the moon, you could punch out one person.

[Dan Patrick]

I think that's only fair. Yes, Todd, what is the motivation to

[Todd Seaton]

prove one way or the other? What do you win? You win like a teddy bear. What do you get if you prove one way or the other? Whether it's a round globe or a square globe. Why does it even matter what it is?

[Dan Patrick]

Your questions are really difficult to answer.

[Todd Seaton]

But that's what's so silly. People are so passionate about something that doesn't even matter. Who cares if it's a triangle or a rhombus? Does it matter what their globe is shaped like?

[Reggie Miller]

I don't get it.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they think that we didn't land on the moon.

[Paul]

Buzz Aldrin's still alive.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, he is. Oh, my bad.

[Paul]

But that's great news. It's better than the other way.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Marvin]

You're next.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, man. What the heck? I know. He had a younger girlfriend.

[Paul]

Well, they're all younger girlfriends.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's true.

[Paul]

Buzz Aldrin, 96 and Roland crushing.

[Dan Patrick]

Did he lose his wife recently? And. God, I shouldn't be doing this live.

[Paul]

Imagine, like, you got to take out the garbage. I was just on the moon.

[Paulie]

Yes, you're about to get knocked in the nose, too, for all this. Don't run into Buzz anytime soon.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz saw James and IO Todd, see if you can get Buzz Aldrin to join us.

[Todd Seaton]

I'm on the case.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Buzz him. You know what Bracket challenge next year. Buzz Aldrin.

[Paulie]

He's Aldrin on that.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yes.

[Paul]

Paul Buzz Aldrin. Four wives. He's on his.

[Paulie]

At the same time.

[Dan Patrick]

He's outlived all of them.

[Paul]

Yeah. He's had four wives, though, and he

[Dan Patrick]

had one on the moon. I mean, he would see her. That's.

[Paul]

You know, I'm not gonna be back for a while, hon.

[Dan Patrick]

Booty call.

[Paul]

That's a good, good bit.

[Dan Patrick]

James in Iowa. Hi, James. What's on your mind?

[Caller James]

Hey, good morning, fellas. First of all, how this year didn't nominate you guys didn't get nominated for a sports semi, I will never know. Secondly, you were asking about the move for Danny Hurley, and I think they call that the peacock. You know, you got the big guy who, like, sticks his chest out, tries to go bumping into people. Like he's showing off. Like he. I've heard it's called he's trying to peacock.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I think I use that expression. Yeah, he was. He was peacocking. It was like a Mick Jagger that. He was peacock in there. But thank you, James. Let's see. Uncle Peas. P. Uncle piz.

[Caller James]

It's Uncle Pizza Dan. But thank you very much. I appreciate you calling.

[Dan Patrick]

Tyler left off the A. Tyler, you left off the A. You put pizz. I'm pissed off at you. Go ahead.

[Caller James]

I'm sorry. Real quick, though. I just want to jump in real quick on the Las Vegas. Jump in on this Las Vegas name. I have two of them for y' all to know about. One, we go without the S and we go with the Las Vegas double down. Or we just go with the original baby. Las Vegas mobsters.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I'm sure the NBA would love that. Bring in the mobsters. Fresh in Milwaukee. Hi, Fresh. What's on your mind?

[Caller James]

What's up, guys? How y' all doing today?

[Dan Patrick]

Great, Fresh. Good.

[Caller James]

Got a question with a dilemma.

[Caller Fresh]

If you take all NBA players and

[Caller James]

put them in by positions, all shooting

[Caller Fresh]

guards, all top five, all shooting guards, all guards by position, what position wins the championship?

[Dan Patrick]

So if I have all centers, all power forwards, all.

[Caller James]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

So point guards, who wins?

[Caller Fresh]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. I'll give that some thought. Fresh. I'll ask. I'll ask Reggie. Dave in South Dakota. Then we'll take a break. Make way for Reggie. Hey, Dave.

[Caller Fresh]

Hey, Dan. Good morning, everybody. 5:10, and from 3:30 to now, 175. Say, the reason I say my weight that way is I had gastric bypass. Bypass surgery about 20 years ago. And discovered after losing all the weight that I had some back pain that I've been managing. And that brings me to the Tiger woods situation. Seems like. Now, listen, I will say maybe, maybe I'm not privy to all of the information that even maybe you have, but it seems like there's a little rush to judgment here, that because Tiger had medication in his pocket, that there's an addiction problem. I've been taking similar medication for 20 years, and I drive.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you haven't had these moments where he is, you know, out of it. I mean, I didn't charge him with anything. They did. He was driving under the influence. All I'm doing is reading the report. He's flipped his car a couple of times now. Remember the one time he was pulled over the side of the road and couldn't even walk this. Yes. You can use these drugs in moderation under a. Under doctor's care. He's got hydrocodone in his pocket and gets arrested and doesn't, you know, take those out of his pocket. All right, let me take a break. Reggie Miller next on the Dan Patrick Show.

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[Dan Patrick]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Dan Patrick]

More phone calls coming up. Grant Hill on the program tomorrow and Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo. Reggie Miller was on the call. Nick's Thunder on Sunday night. Coast to Coast Tuesday presents a double header on NBC. And Peacock tonight, Kevin Durant. The Rockets play host to Jalen Brunson in the Knicks from Houston at 8 Eastern on NBC. Reggie there with Mike Tirico. I'm getting these text messages from you late last night. All these like you're. You're telling me what you want to talk about. You're producing your segment. All right, I'll let you go.

[Reggie Miller]

Like, not at all. We work in conjunction. Theodore.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought maybe all of a sudden you fell in love with SGA for the mvp or you made your decision that SGA is the MVP on Sunday night. Is that what happened?

[Reggie Miller]

Not only Sunday night, but just watching the game last night in that overtime thriller versus the number one seed in the Eastern Conference, Detroit again. I know they were without Cade. I know they were without Durham. I know they were without Isaiah Stewart. But the Thunder were missing some pieces as well. J Dub didn't play Isaiah Hartenstein, but who shows up? To me, he SGA should be again. And I said this on air on Sunday, there's level to. There's levels to this. And I am never going to take anything away from Wimy because Wimy deserves and he will be winning these awards for a long time. But if we are going to give out the highest award in our game, which is the MVP of the regular season, I get it. Regular season. I'm going with SGA just for the simple fact. Minutes played. I mean, I look at Wimby's minutes and they both missed around the same amount of time. I believe FGA missed 12 games. Wimby has missed 15 games, eight and four without SGA, 10 and five without Wimby. But for a while there, Wimby was on a minutes restriction.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

And if you look at minutes, and this was a wild stat. LeBron has played less games than Wimy, but has more minutes than Wimpy right now. That's the point I'm making.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Wimy's coming off a blood clot. And look at the numbers that he put up and look at the season that they've had. And. And if. And if we do this, because this is what, you know, some of you analysts like to do.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Certain guys don't play defense. And, you know, did any of those analysts say anything about James Harden when he was winning mvp? That he didn't play? Right. Nobody said that. Right now, all of a sudden, Luca can't play defense. Joker doesn't play defense. Jalen Brunson doesn't play defense. If we're going to use that, then Wemby defensively is an A plus, correct?

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. As an offensive player.

[Show Announcer]

B plus.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. B plus. SGA defense plus.

[Reggie Miller]

A minus. B plus.

[Dan Patrick]

He's an 8.

[Reggie Miller]

A plus scorer. A minus to B plus defender.

[Dan Patrick]

That's being really friendly.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, no, no. He was second in steals a year ago on his way to the mvp.

[Dan Patrick]

There are a lot of guys who are up there in steals who aren't great defenders, Reg.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay, so are you saying that Sea does not play defense?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm. I'm saying he's nowhere near what Wemby is.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, no, he's not an A plus for Wim defense. B plus in offense, maybe even. I'll give him a minus.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. I'm just saying Nobody talks about SGA's defense. Nobody. Now, he might be highly rated. Nobody talks about that. But I want to know where the analysts were when James Harden was considered the best player in the game.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

And, Reg, James Harden doesn't play defense now. He probably was up there in steals. I'll bet you Larry Bird used to be up there in steals, and Larry wasn't a good defender.

[Reggie Miller]

He was a great team.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, okay. But I've been saying SGA is the mvp. I think he's going to win the mvp. I think Luca is the best player in the game and I think the

[Reggie Miller]

best scorer in our game. I will say that.

[Dan Patrick]

But he's the best rebounder scorer in a. He's leading an assistant.

[Reggie Miller]

I would. No, I think that he's up there. Jokic.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, Jokic. That's what I'm saying. Jokic is the best. Best player in the game, in my opinion.

[Reggie Miller]

I agree, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but if. If you don't. If Wemby's not getting it this year, he's getting it next year.

[Reggie Miller]

If he plays enough games.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes, but he'll.

[Reggie Miller]

I think from this point forward, SGA will win it. But starting next year, when he's on the clock. Yeah, Defensive player of the year. He's on the clock to Win mvp, but also too. Can we please see the spurs in a playoff series?

[Dan Patrick]

I agree. I agree.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay. We're going to get the mvp, and he hasn't even played one playoff game. Again, regular season. I get it, but I want to see the spurs in a playoff series.

[Dan Patrick]

But I don't think that MVP regular season should be predicated on how well you've done in the postseason. I. We did that to Giannis, we did that to Joker, and I don't think it's fair. It's the regular season. It's almost as if. What if. What if the spurs knock out okc? SGA wins MVP and the spurs beat okc.

[Reggie Miller]

Man, we can come back on here and reevaluate.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, then they've given the MVP to the wrong guy. Correct.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, guess what? They're on a collision course. So let's find out. All I know is a dude started the season 24. 1 and right now they're 18 and 2 since the all Star break. Again. I know The spurs are 18 and 2 or 19 and 2 as well, but I'm leaning towards. I'm not leaning. I am going with SGA as the MVP right now.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. You sent me some notes last night. You want to talk mvp, Braylon Mullen shot and Dan Hurley. And then you want to talk about what Duke did wrong. Okay, let's. Let's start with what duke did wrong. 10 seconds to go. Then we can get to the shot, and then we could get to Dan Hurley.

[Reggie Miller]

And this is why you, in practice, whether you're at the grade school level, high school, and obviously in college, you work on situational basketball. Okay. And knowing time score, foul situation, there was no reason for Boozer to attempt to throw the ball over. I know all of the Yukon Huskies players were going for the steal and all that, but all Kaden had to do was hold on to the basketball escape. Dribble, dribble, left, right. They were going to foul him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

He did not have to give up that basketball. So knowing time score, because they were up to at the time, even if he makes one or two with no timeouts left, it was going to be virtually impossible for UConn. But when you give up the basketball, when you attempt, all it took was a deflection, which happened still bucket. No, in time play situational basketball. And I'm not saying they. They don't practice that at Duke. Obviously, they. They coach shire that system. They do. But when you get caught up in the moment, people don't understand how big some of these moments are. In the heat of the moment, stuff happens. And I. I feel for the Boozer Boys. I feel for Carlos. It's tough. But I was telling people this too. This too shall pass.

[Dan Patrick]

He's only 18. You know, I felt bad that I feel bad, but I have to give UConn credit because it was a great defensive play, a pass, and Caravan had just made a tough shot. His was going to be contested. You see the trailer. Always worry about the trailer. And he finds Mullins, who has, you know, wide open from 37ft out, and he was able to take a jumper.

[Reggie Miller]

And if there's one player on that team that you didn't want to leave open was Braylon. I mean, arguably the best shooter on that team as. Even as a freshman. And what a moment for him. His dad, Josh, a kid from Indiana. It's. It's a Hoosier type ending for them because that's all we do in Indiana. I'm an adopted Hoosier, so when I say we, I consider myself a Hoosier. That's all those kids do in Indiana is. Is think of moments like that.

[Dan Patrick]

How did they lose him to UConn Red?

[Reggie Miller]

It doesn't matter how they lost them. We still claim him. Okay? He gets a chance for a shot like that to come home to Indiana for the Final Four. His dad, Josh, his family, Greenfield Central, where he played high school. He was Mr. Indiana Basketball. All these things were set up for that moment. And by the way, that's a logo shot, people.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

I mean, that's the 35, 40 foot shot to advance your team to the Final Four. Kudos to you, Mr. Mullins.

[Dan Patrick]

Reggie Miller on the program. It'll be the Knicks and rockets at 8 Eastern on NBC and on Peacock. Okay, then you have the Dan Hurley moment with Roger Ayers, the official. How would you describe it? And if you're the official, what would you have done?

[Reggie Miller]

Wow, what a level of discretion here by the official because you could easily make a case. And I am. I'm gonna say. And sit here and say I am surprised a technical file was not called because you could have. You could have lost it on that. I understand celebrating, even jumping on the floor because there was still time left in the game and some of the Huskies were on the floor. I've seen technicals, fouls called in the college game for that. None was given. But the mean mug and the slight. Is it a headbutt? No, no, it's not head to head. Oh, they were. Were they touching one another there but

[Dan Patrick]

that's not a headbutt. You and John Sparks might have been a headbutt.

[Reggie Miller]

Headbutt. He smirked, mean mug.

[Dan Patrick]

I think they rubbed foreheads.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay, so they headbutted.

[Dan Patrick]

They didn't head butt. They had rubbed. They met together.

[Reggie Miller]

Very surprised I was not caught. I give the. The official and officiating crew a lot of credit for swallowing their whistles because as unbelievable moment. That was for Braylon Mullins. For Yukon basketball, it could have been mirrored in controversy if that official would have blew the whistle and gave Coach Hurley a technical for them. So that would have been two shots from anyone, I assume.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

And you could have easily lost that game. Well, by the official, Theodore, I think

[Dan Patrick]

that's two people in a moment, a public moment who understood each other.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And that's why nothing was called.

[Reggie Miller]

I think there was history there between that particular official.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

And Dan Hurley, because again, you could easily made a case and far be it for me to support anything that Duke does. Sorry, Grant, but if you're a Duke fan, you could easily make a case that should have been a technical foul.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you hate Duke?

[Reggie Miller]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you.

[Reggie Miller]

Duke is. They're a lot like the Knicks. They just think they're better than everyone else. That's all. They think their brand of basketball, their style of basketball, their players are better than it. I had this conversation with Billy King all the time. One of my best friends in life, assistant coach with the Pacers. And we just go back and forth all the time about Duke basketball, the brotherhood. And I get it. I love them. I love Coach K. I love a lot of the players. I've played with a few Duke players in my lifetime, but they just think they're better than everyone else. And that's what. That's why it kind of rubs people the wrong way.

[Dan Patrick]

How can the Knicks feel this way? They don't win anything.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, they've won. They've been successful.

[Dan Patrick]

1973.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah, well, they had a good run in the 90s. They had a great run in the 90s.

[Dan Patrick]

They didn't win.

[Reggie Miller]

They went to the finals twice. They knocked on the door. And not everyone could be a champion like you, Theodore. All right. We're all on your coattails.

[Caller James]

What.

[Dan Patrick]

What. What changes will the Knicks make? Are they going to make a change?

[Reggie Miller]

Well, can we see how this.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, all right. Okay. You got. You got two guys who were bad defenders in Brunson and Anthony Towns. And in the playoffs, they're just going to single those guys out and go at them.

[Reggie Miller]

I. Look, I will Say this about Brunson. He leads the league and he leads his team in charge is taken. That, to me, that's a form of playing defense. I'm sorry. And you just say what you want about him. I want Jaylen Brunson on my team in close moments in playoff basketball because the dude just has it. So you. You can hate on Cat all you want. I'm never gonna hate on Jalen Brunson

[Dan Patrick]

because that dude, I. I love Jalen Brunson. I'm. I don't want Carl Anthony Towns. Do you want Carl Anthony Towns? If. If you're Jalen Brunson. You just answered my question. Just answered my question. No, the pause. You don't want Carl Anthony Towns.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes, I.

[Dan Patrick]

That's your second option.

[Reggie Miller]

He's a good. He's a good player.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. He's a really good shooter. He's a great shooter, and that's it.

[Reggie Miller]

But at times, he does get lost. In a lot of times, good teams and great players will find a way to put him in picking roles in certain situations. He's gotten a little bit better. A little bit.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. You got to choose your words carefully because you're running. Yeah. All the Knicks fans out there don't like you anyway, so it doesn't matter what you say about Carl Anthony Town.

[Reggie Miller]

They're seeing the same thing you and I are.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes.

[Reggie Miller]

They see the same thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, by the way, you got a name for Vegas that the NBA might like? Seattle still gets the Supersonic.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, yes, they were. I got to think about that one, because there's a lot of ways we can go with this. What are some of the. What are some of the names that are being loaded?

[Dan Patrick]

You know, they're not Las Vegas. That. Somebody said the mobsters.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, no, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, here is a suggestion. The Las Vegas Strip.

[Reggie Miller]

No. Because people are going to think about strippers. No, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, don't you think about that? Anyway, with Vegas, you don't have to

[Reggie Miller]

be in Las Vegas. No, the Las Vegas. I can't say high rollers. No, the Las Vegas. I got to think about this, because you could be. You could be very creative with this franchise.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you got to be careful with the whole gambling thing.

[Reggie Miller]

I know.

[Dan Patrick]

Even though there's so much Las Vegas.

[Reggie Miller]

Mobsters. Really?

[Dan Patrick]

Come on, you're not a gambler, are you?

[Reggie Miller]

Not anymore. I mean, I used to play.

[Dan Patrick]

What'd you play?

[Reggie Miller]

It's a waste.

[Dan Patrick]

I know it's a waste.

[Reggie Miller]

I mean, I don't mind going there and playing roulette. You know, that's like 50, 50. Throw a few numbers out there, see your number hits. Big deal.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ever put your Jersey number out there?

[Reggie Miller]

Always. I go with Jersey numbers. I go with kids ages. I go with. I go with mj. I go with Michael. I go with Larry. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, you.

[Reggie Miller]

There's a block. I go with 31, 32, 33. Charles, 34. Like when you're playing roulette. You know how you. You could do a block of numbers? I can't. See, this is how bad I am as a gambler. What's it called when you do a block or somebody. Polly, you can do a block of numbers.

[Paul]

You put one chip and four squares on four squares.

[Reggie Miller]

So I would do 31, 32, 33, and 34. And if one of them hit, then we're gonna make it right.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you put money on 23?

[Reggie Miller]

Yes, I do.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Caller James]

I have.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes, I do. It never hit for me.

[Dan Patrick]

Mike never hit. But it was you and it was Magic Larry and Sir Charles and then Charles. 34.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, that.

[Reggie Miller]

That's my go to

[Dan Patrick]

Michael. Never bet on 31.

[Reggie Miller]

He would never. No, he would never.

[Dan Patrick]

Or 11. Isaiah. Look at you.

[Reggie Miller]

Look at you starting things. Oh, I would go 10 for my Olympic number. So I would do 10. 11. I did do Isaiah. 12 was someone famous, too. I'm trying to think. 13 I did for Mark Jackson and Dan Marino, so there was blocks. I would do.

[Dan Patrick]

Good to talk to you.

[Reggie Miller]

Love you.

[Dan Patrick]

Love you, Danny. Text me again whenever you need to.

[Reggie Miller]

I'll text you. In the middle of the night. And by the way, you responding to me at midnight. Sleep. Are you again? I know you're a vampire, and I'll sleep it.

[Dan Patrick]

Never sleep. No, I. I can't. My mind's racing. You know, it's always racing. All right.

[Reggie Miller]

That's why we're a team.

[Dan Patrick]

We're a good team. Say nice things about Carl Anthony Towns tonight.

[Reggie Miller]

I will, but he's got to rotate. Rotate off from the wet side.

[Dan Patrick]

Durant's gonna get 30.

[Reggie Miller]

I have the Knicks tonight winning.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you do? Okay. Okay. All right. In Houston.

[Reggie Miller]

In Houston.

[Dan Patrick]

Jalen Brunson will take two charges tonight.

[Reggie Miller]

Hey, form of defense, tune in to

[Dan Patrick]

watch Jalen Brunson take a charge tonight. Carl Anthony Towns to try in the pick and roll. That's how you send your hate mail

[Reggie Miller]

to Theodore, not to me. He's the one that's killing your team, not me, guys. Not me.

[Dan Patrick]

Reggie will be on the call with Mike Tirico and Zora Stevenson. That'll be coming up tonight. Thank you, Reg. Let's take a break.

[Reggie Miller]

Love y'.

[Paulie]

All.

[Dan Patrick]

Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow after this.

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We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

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[Dan Patrick]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Caller Lost]

How is there signal out here?

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[Dan Patrick]

State Head Coach Tom Izzo tomorrow and Grant Hill. Oh by the way, check out the merchandise store danpatrick.com t shirts, long sleeve t shirts, hoodies, zip ups and with the DP show logo. So check that out when you [e-mail] I mentioned that I was hoping to hear Dan Hurley talk about the ending of the game when he had his forehead confrontation with the official Roger Ayers and he was on the triple option hosted by Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram and Rob Stone and they asked Dan Hurley about the confrontation with the official.

[Dan Hurley]

Really at that point of the game we had it won and he's such an easy guy to work with during the game that I thought he was coming over to chest bump me to celebrate the shot, you know, because it's not like that for me with him, you know, like, my experience with him has been, you know, we haven't won every game, I haven't agreed to every fall. But his, like. So that was. In no way was that like me and a ref, that I had been at their throat the whole game. Like, other points in the game where I had my arm around them walking, like out of the timeout, you know, we were cracking jokes and laughing. That with that situation now, the one at Marquette, you know, when I was on my man's neck, you know, screaming into his neck, like, yeah, I mean, that was. That was a guy that's like coming right up to the line and losing his mind. But that was more like the emotion of the shot. And this is a cool ass rap, you know, I just like, was.

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[Dan Hurley]

No, he was just coming up to tell me I was 0.3. Oh, I think there's going to be 0.3 or 0.4 on the clock is what he was saying to me. And I was still so hyped from the shot going in that I was like, you know, like anyone would have walked up on me right there. I was just. I love it because he came over so fast.

[Dan Patrick]

So that's Danny Hurley and that's the triple option hosted by Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram and Rob Stone. If your hair isn't playing like it did in the 20s, your 20s, it might be time for a comeback here. Get rid of the hat. That's not a strategy. Start Neutrophil today. Make the hat optional. Visit neutral full.com or enter the promo code. Patrick. I don't know if that cleared anything up. It feels like it. They have a good relationship. He had an out of body experience. The official is saying to him, point three. And I don't know if Dan Hurley said anything to him, but the fact that he thought he was going to chest bump him now maybe he's having fun. I. I hope he's having fun with that. That would have been really, really awkward if the official will chest bump you. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

Yeah. I didn't see Hurley's mouth moving at all. I just think he was just so hype and in the moment, he had his jacket half off like he was a member of Jodeci and he was just walking around. I was like this. Oh, yeah, sorry.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes.

[Marvin]

He was going crazy. And it was like, whoever's coming up to me, he said at the end of this, at the end of that clip, whoever was coming up to me, I would have done the exact same thing to him.

[Dan Patrick]

This day in sports history.

[Paul]

Paul Newt Rockne. In 1931, the former Notre Dame coach died in a plane crash. 1968, Seattle chose the name pilots for their new Al franchise. And let's see. Oh. 1998, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays and Arizona Diamondbacks debuted in the major leagues.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's see. How about Katie in Wisconsin? Hi, Katie. What's on your mind today?

[Caller James]

How about on this date in 2026, Katie comes up with the name for the basketball team in college from the Las Vegas Desert.

[Dan Patrick]

The desert. All right. Las Vegas Desert by Katie in Wisconsin.

[Paulie]

This day in sports history. This day came up with that name.

[Dan Patrick]

Swagger. I like that. Katie. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Katie's in charge.

[Dan Patrick]

Jack in Oregon. Hi, Jack. What's on your mind?

[Caller James]

Hey, Danny boy. I got three names for you. Two for the basketball team and one for the baseball team. I don't know how anybody's missed it. I came up with a good one, then I came up with a great one. Okay, I came up the press, the Las Vegas Press. Then I came up with the line, the Las Vegas line. What's Vegas about, huh? And then the baseball team, okay, The LV blts. And the mascot is a sandwich.

[Dan Patrick]

All righty. I'm waiting for the great ones there. They're going to be the A's. Yeah.

[Paul]

Yes, Paul, Those all stunk equally.

[Dan Patrick]

No offense. Todd, what did you learn today?

[Todd Seaton]

Reggie Miller doesn't hate Duke, but says, much like the Knicks, they think they're better than everyone else.

[Dan Patrick]

Seton, would you learn nothing to see

[Paulie]

with Dan Hurley's head?

[Marvin]

Marvin Spain is the World cup favorite.

[Paul]

Paul, World cup odds today.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. Make sure you check out the new [e-mail] for Todd Seaton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and of course, the back room guys. We'll try to do better tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody.

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[Dan Patrick]

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