The Dan Patrick Show
Episode: Hour 3 – The World vs USA, Spicy Coaches & Calls
Date: November 12, 2025
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Overview
In this third hour of The Dan Patrick Show, Dan and the Danettes (Paulie, Marvin, Todd, and Dylan) debate the NBA's new All-Star Game format (USA vs. World), tackle recent sports controversies, and discuss the complexity of athlete legacies and Hall of Fame criteria. The hour is packed with lively banter, insightful analysis, and engagement with callers, punctuated by memorable moments and classic DP humor.
Key Themes and Discussion Points
1. New NBA All-Star Game Format: USA vs. The World
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Format Details (13:37):
The league announces a three-team All-Star format: two teams of American stars and one of international stars. Each team will have eight players. -
Roster Intrigue & Debate (14:00–23:30):
- There's actual intrigue because the format could mirror international pride (Olympics, etc.).
- Dan runs through hypothetical rosters:
- World: Wemby, Joker (Jokic), Giannis, SGA, Luka.
- USA: Steph Curry, Anthony Edwards, LeBron, Anthony Davis (if healthy), Trey Young, Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Jalen Brown, Durant, Chet Holmgren.
- Notable quote, Dan:
- "If I look at the leading candidates for MVP, it’s the starting five for the world." (21:25)
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World's Advantages (23:35):
- Marvin and the crew argue the world team's starting 5 could outclass both US teams.
- Paulie wonders about the point spread:
- Dan: "If you took the best USA versus the world, what would be a reasonable point spread?"
- Dylan thinks it could be "double digit" in favor of the world team.
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Depth & Selection Concerns:
- Debate on how deep the world team can go after its mega-stars.
- Conversation about which international players might fill out the team’s depth spots.
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Comparison to MLB (16:45):
Dan ponders whether MLB could try a USA vs. World format, suggesting “the US would be in trouble.”
2. Expectations, Comparison, and Career Legacies
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Dan’s Cooper Flagg vs. Kevin Love Remark (27:00):
- A recent comment by Dan receives backlash—he says, “If Cooper Flagg had Kevin Love's career, it would be considered a disappointment, given expectations.”
- Kevin Love responds graciously online, acknowledging Flagg’s superior potential:
- Love: "Cooper is far more talented than I ever was, and if he stays healthy, will have a far better career… I’m a huge fan." (31:25)
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Dan Clarifies His Stance:
- "If you understand the context… the expectation level of Cooper Flagg is the problem, not Kevin Love. If you said [he] ends up with Kevin Love stats… That’s a good career. But for some, that’s not enough; he has to be ‘no doubt, first-ballot Hall of Famer’." (33:00)
- Draws NFL comparison: "If Trevor Lawrence has a career like Alex Smith… based off expectations, that'd be a disappointment." (34:37, Paulie)
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Caller Engagement:
- Calls from Drew in Columbus and JJ in Cincinnati praise Kevin Love’s clutch defense on Steph Curry in 2016 and discuss athlete evolution in the public eye.
- Dan's openness to admit his opinion has changed over time:
- "That’s called growth, that’s called learning. It’s called re-examining opinions sometimes." (1:15:50)
3. Hall of Fame Standards and Snubs (46:30–1:10:00)
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Basketball Hall of Fame's Murky Standards:
- Should Christian Laettner be in? Dan: "He’s the only member of the Dream Team not in the Basketball Hall of Fame as an individual… It just doesn’t make any sense." (51:40)
- NCAA vs. NBA accomplishments: If the Hall is about basketball as a whole, why are great college players like Laettner overlooked in favor of international players with less NBA success?
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Quiz: Hall of Famers Without All-Star Appearances (1:07:20):
- Paulie quizzes the crew:
- Dan: "Was that Bobby Jones?"
- Marvin and Paulie: "Michael Cooper! Defensive Player of the Year, five-time NBA champ, never made an All-Star Game."
- Discussion about other "non-iconic" Hall selections—Dino Radja, Tony Kukoc, Oscar Schmidt—versus U.S. college greats.
- Paulie quizzes the crew:
4. Coaching Press Conferences & Handling the Media (41:50):
- Aaron Glenn’s Spicy Presser:
- Glenn, newly with the Jets, gets testy with reporters over injury questions—deflects, tells media to ‘ask Rich’ (Samini, ESPN):
- Dan’s take: "Aaron Glenn’s not doing his job… You’re the coach. Be bigger than this. Don’t be petty… Just answer the question." (42:30)
- Paulie notes the importance of media relationships, citing former coach Brian Billick’s approach.
- Dan: "My advice for Aaron Glenn: You don’t have to have a battle. It doesn’t have to be that way."
- Glenn, newly with the Jets, gets testy with reporters over injury questions—deflects, tells media to ‘ask Rich’ (Samini, ESPN):
5. Odds and Awards Discussion (1:20:00)
- Super Bowl & Rookie of the Year Odds:
- Rams and Chiefs share Super Bowl odds (+600), with the Lions next, followed by the Eagles and others.
- NBA Rookie of the Year: Cooper Flagg is still the favorite, but Edgecombe is close, and Knipple (who Paulie loves) is third.
- Paulie: "He can shoot. He seems to have adjusted better than Cooper Flagg." (1:22:30)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Dan, on the All-Star Game world roster:
"Let me take the world. I got Wemby, I got Joker and I got Giannis, I got SGA, I got Luka. That’s my starting five, right? … If you’re going to play with pride … this could be a lot of fun." (14:50) -
Kevin Love’s class response to Dan’s comparison:
"Cooper is far more talented than I ever was, and if he stays healthy, will have a far better career. He could very well have a statue by the time he’s finished. I’m a huge fan." (31:25) -
Dan, on managing expectations:
"We never blame ourselves. We blame the player for not living up to our expectations. And it shouldn’t work that way." (35:15) -
On Aaron Glenn’s media handling:
"You invite more criticism… People know they can get to you now. The media’s on your side until they’re not.” (44:00) -
On Hall of Fame standards:
"If it wasn’t the Pro Football Hall of Fame and was just the Football Hall of Fame, would Tim Tebow be in? Yes, of course… But he wasn’t a good NFL quarterback." (54:20) -
On Basketball Hall of Fame inclusions:
"If Tony Kukoc is in… and never made an All-Star team, and Laettner isn’t? Interesting." (1:09:10)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Poll question & Opening Banter: 04:00
- NBA All-Star format discussion: 13:37–23:30
- Baseball “USA vs. World” hypothetical: 16:45
- Roster breakdowns and MVP candidates: 18:40
- Dan’s Kevin Love/Cooper Flagg comments: 27:00–34:30
- Legacy, expectations, and NFL parallels: 34:37
- Caller: Kevin Love’s defense in 2016 Finals: 1:13:00
- Basketball Hall of Fame standards: 46:30–1:10:00
- Aaron Glenn press conference, coaching and media: 41:50
- Odds and Rookie of the Year debate: 1:20:00
- Lighthearted banter (Basketball Wives, reality TV): 1:27:00
Final Remarks & Show Tone
This hour showcases Dan Patrick's signature blend of wit, thoughtful analysis, and sports nostalgia. The conversation remains engaging, moving fluidly between breaking news (the All-Star format), sports media insight, and broader questions about how we judge athletes and coaches. The show maintains a playful tone—even as serious points about legacy, pressure, and media conduct are made. The hosts’ willingness to re-examine their own takes, and make space for fan input, gives the show its renowned authenticity.
For Listeners Who Missed It
This episode dives deep into the meaning of greatness: from NBA All-Star intrigue and college-to-pro comparisons, to Hall of Fame debates and the pressures coaches face in the New York media market. Essential listening for sports fans who love behind-the-scenes stories, honest talk, and debates that combine stats with heart.
