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In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our life. Listen to Gentle world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour on this Wednesday, Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick Show. More phone calls coming up. We'll change our poll question. Actually, we stumbled onto a poll question about 15 minutes ago. If you were going to bet on the Patriots, Colts or Broncos, who would go further in the Postseason. That's the poll question for the final hour of the program. Do you have early results, Dylan sitting in for Seaton? I do. Dan, would you like to guess? No, I would not. No. No. Guess. Okay. The Patriots are leading with about 45%. Then Colts, Broncos a distant. Okay. All right. People concerned about that offense there. Good defense. Distant third. 877-3-DP show email address dp danpatrick.com Twitter handle @tp show. Let me get my announcer voice on here. Someone is guilty. No one is innocent. In the new drama series All Her Fault, a seemingly perfect family's world is shattered when their young son goes missing. Streaming now only on Peacock. Yes, Marvin, I saw the first episode of this. Yeah. Edge of my Seat. Really? Oh. In a world I was in now, isn't the mother the one who was in succession? I never seen succession. Red haired. Yes, but that she's the mother. Sarah Snook I believe is her name. I believe. Yeah. Okay. And my man that came in from Ant Man, I can't think of his name, but he was a real funny character in Ant Man. But he plays a pretty dramatic role in this one. Yes, Todd. I haven't seen it just yet, so that would be all my fault until I get a chance to. How you think you're doing today? How do you think you're doing today? I'm gonna say with the cold and cough and everything. I only had one guest. It's maybe a hard C. Okay. C plus. I think that's friendly. C is friendly. Yeah. I'd say C minus. Wow, that's awful. Yeah, well, because your standards are so high. Yeah. But the greatest, the grade. It doesn't matter what you did before or after. It's right now, in the moment. You're giving me a C minus. Well, sometimes you're summa cum laude and then other times you're back down with Paulie and I. Best and worst. Yeah, that's because that's the most and least valuable dinner would be up and down inconsistently. Yes, it makes sense. Like, has the message been delivered that you win most valuable? Least valuable every year? It's starting to really resonate with me what we're doing here, the ups and downs of this whole thing. Yes. Marvin, is Fritzy the Jamis Winston of the show. Wow. Okay. He giveth, he taketh away. 30 touchdowns, 30 interceptions same season. But you did have highlights. You're entertaining. I'd rather eat a turkey club than a W if we're going to just put it out on the table. And make that reference. How do you think you're doing today? I just went to D plus. I just went to D plus with that cover. Yeah. And too hard. And there's still time for you to go even lower than that. 877-3-DP Show Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show the All Star Games getting a makeover again. So this is what's going to happen. The league announced last night three teams, eight players each, two teams made up of American stars and one international team featuring the best from everywhere else. We do need to find out if we get North America or the world gets North America. I think that the world should get North America. They should get Canada. I think. So. We're landlocked, though. I mean, that should be. We. We boarded them. Yeah. I think we should get Canada, Mexico, and maybe all the Virgin Islands. Even the ones that aren't us. Yeah. Wow. The league's created something rare for an All Star Game, and that's intrigue, when you think about it, because let me take the world. I got Wemby, I got Joker, and I got Giannis, I got sga, I got Luca. So that's my starting five, right? So I got Joker, Wemby, Giannis, and then I've got Luca and sga. I'm ready. And if you're going to play with pride, if. If there's going to be that pride that we see in the Olympics, I think this could be a lot of fun. I don't think there's a downside to this, that that's where I would start. Where. Okay, you've tried everything else now. Let's try something different now. What if baseball did this? What if baseball took the United States versus the world? I got Otani. I. I mean, I just imagine I got players. Latin America, the doctor, Japan. That would be interesting, too. For who? We might be in trouble. The US Would be in trouble. But if I got the world and okay, you're going to get Brunson, ant, Steph. Is KD going to make the team? LeBron going to make the team. Like, who are the great players that are going to make the United States team this year? Because you got a lot of injuries. You know, Tatum's not going to be able to play. Joel Embiid's not going to be able to play. Give me. Give me that roster with. With the US because this is what I was always told whenever I propose this, I'd get that. Yeah. Who's going to be, like, the seventh Player for world. And I go, I just know I got my starting five and that starting five is better than your starting five. And now if I have two American teams now, I don't just have one great lineup now. It's dispersed. I got two teams. So you're not going to get the five best players. You're going to get maybe two of those five and the other team's going to get three. That to me is what now depth will be the key, but it's only eight players, so it's not that deep. Who are the other players that the world would put on this team? Marvin? It would be probably Sagoon from Rockets was really, really good. Lori Marketing. Yeah. Pasquale Sekum. Probably not. Team's not that good this year, so he probably won't. Because what's going to happen is they're going to take 24, the 24 players that will make the All Star team and split them up into three. So it's not going to be, hey, we're going to take you because you're an international player. Jamal Murray, Josh Giddy, maybe Giddy, maybe Vusovic. Yeah. But you got big guys. Sabonis. Sabonis isn't ours. He was born in Portland. Yeah. I'm saying he's not, he's not the world. Nice acquisition. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Todd, if you were setting a points spread today and it was, I know that's two different teams, two good USA teams, but if you took the best of the best USA versus the world, what would be a reasonable point spread for one All Star game? I would have to know the US Rosters because I don't, I mean, I don't know how great it's going to be. You might have your, your sixth, seventh, eighth players are better than the world. Six, seven, eight. But my starting five, that is all time. And if I look at the leading candidates for MVP, it's the starting five for the world. Yeah. Paul. USA players, possibly Steph Curry, Anthony Edwards, LeBron Anthony Davis of healthy Trey Young, Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Jalen Brown, Durant, Jaren Jackson Jr. Chet Holmgren. Yeah. I'm not worried. Yeah. If I'm the world and that's my starting line, if I got SGA and Luca has my guards and my front line, Joker, Giannis Wemby. Yes, Mark. And the thing about the All Star game, it's the players that are having the best seasons. Yeah. So it might be a one time all Star that's going to be expected to go up against the top Five MVP candidates. So you're going to have maybe. I don't know, if OG Anunoby makes the team, you'd be like, oh, that might not be a good sign. No. For the U.S. yes, Dylan, it might be ambitious, but I genuinely could see that being like a double digit point spread in favor of the world team. Who would have? Well, see, it's hard to say because I don't know if LeBron's going to be able to. I have to have a roster. I don't think you could just. I can't just take the world's roster and then establish a point spread. By the way, Joker went 35 and 15 last night. He has gone 35 and 15. See, he did that seven times last year. He's joined Giannis and Wemby with a 3515 game. Like, I'm not surprised at his numbers. You know, sometimes you'll see like Kevin Love, who I think is going to join us on the show tomorrow on this day. I don't know what year that was, but he had a 30, 30 game. He had 31 points, 30 rebounds, something like that. Marvin, 31 and 31. 31, 31 in, in modern NBA, that doesn't happen now. In the old days when there were more misses, you know, guys were shooting, you know, 40% at best, you had guys who would get, you know, 40 rebounds in a game. But to go 30, 30 in the last 20 years, I mean, what is that, 15 years ago that he did this? Yep. Dang. I gotta be honest, I didn't know he was still in the NBA because Marvin goes, where do you think Kevin Love plays? I go, I don't think he plays. But what roster? And then Marvin told me Utah. And I went, okay, all right. And I do have to bring up what I didn't think was inflammatory, but it was certainly perceived that way. I saw a headline here. Kevin Love Graciously Reacts to Dan Patrick's Dad Disappointing Cooper Flag Comparison. So this was MSN. I'm not sure, MSN.com do we know what MSN is? Anyway? Okay, but the, the author here, I said that if you said that Cooper Flag's career was going to be like Kevin Loves, would that be a disappointment? And it probably would be because this is someone who is scrimmaged against. The US Olympic team held his own. He's 18 years of age and probably going to make a billion dollars if he stays healthy. Patrick said not long after, Kevin Love caught what many believe to be a stray shot from Patrick. It wasn't a stray shot if you're smart enough to understand what I'm saying. The expectation level with Cooper Flag is is through the roof. He can have a borderline hall of Fame career like Kevin Love has had. He spent 17 or 18 years in the NBA. But this author says that not long after Kevin Love caught what many believe to be a stray shot from dan Patrick, the 17 year NBA veteran took to social media to react. And then Kevin Love said, for those who will take this as a shot at me, I don't take it as such, love said in a tweet. I have his pure skill and will. Cooper is far more talented than I ever was and if he stays healthy, we'll have a far better career. He could very well have a statue by the time he's finished. I'm a huge fan now. Is Kevin Love being nice there? Maybe. But I, I believe that that is the right answer. Kevin Love has a borderline hall of Fame career, right? But he was the fifth pick overall and there weren't great expectations for Kevin. In fact, I remember when he was drafted and Paulie thought he was going to be a star. I thought he would be maybe a 15 and 8 guy. May prove to be a lot more than that, so he should be acknowledged. But if you're not smart enough to understand what I'm saying, Cooper Flagg has to be a Hall of Famer. He has to be, you're the number one pick. You're. You're a once in a generation type pick. You're supposed to be great. You're going to be great. You're going to be the next. Nobody said that about Kevin Love. So once again, if you understand the context of what I was saying and if you heard the discussion instead of, oh my God, that's a stray. No, it's not. I'm saying Cooper Flag, he's already disappointing people and, and they forget he's 18 years of age. He's going to struggle. I think people thought he's going to put up, you know, 22, 10 and five. He's not. And if you watch him play, he's still figuring this out. Just like Wemby did when Wemby came in. And I go, he needs a point guard because he's so out of place, out of position, he doesn't know where he's supposed to go. And you need to put him in positions where he can succeed. The Mavericks started Cooper Flag at point guard. He's not a point guard now. Did you play that in preseason? Yes, I Watched the Games, but this isn't meant to be demeaning to Kevin Love. I've said that he's a borderline hall of Famer. What I'm saying is our expectation level of Cooper Flag is the problem. Not. Not Kevin Love. If you said that Cooper Flag ends up with Kevin Love stats and his career, I would say that's a good career. But that's because I understand the game and I understand what the expectation level should be. But for somebody who's not able to understand, hey, he's got to be, no doubt, first ballot hall of Famer, he was going to be. He was good enough to play on the Olympic team by those who were there at those practices. Nobody had a doubt about him. Nobody said, you know, Kevin Love's probably going to be a guy could get 30, 30 in a game. You know, he's probably going to be an All Star guy. You know, he's going to be a borderline Hall. No one said that. I thought O.J. mayo was going to be better than him in that draft. Pauline and I were going back and forth. I'm like, I'm going to take O.J. mayo. I liked O.J. though. Yeah, well, that O.J. that O.J. yeah. Paulie, you know, if you're going to compare that comparison with Kevin Love, it'd be like if Trevor Lawrence coming out of college and you said, you know, if Trevor Lawrence has a career like Alex Smith, fellow number one pick, that would be a disappointment. Alex Smith made three Pro Bowls. Still as the number one pick, he's not in danger of going to the hall of Fame. If Trevor Lawrence had two Pro Bowls out of 15, that would be a disappointment. Based off the expectations of Trevor Lawrence, it's already a disappointment so far. His career is a disappointment because we expected him to be that next. He was going to be that generational talent. Now, we tend to. We never blame ourselves. We blame the player for not living up to our expectations. And it doesn't. It shouldn't work that way. Cooper Flag is a. A good player. Like, he's good, but can I, can I wait for two years? Can I see when he gets to Wemby's number of years in the league, maybe three years, and see how he is, then you're going to get a true sense of, hey, he's going to be great. He already like Wemby. To me, it took him a little while. It'll take Cooper Flag a couple of years. So that's what I was saying. Be fair to the kid and I don't think we will be. Yes, Marvin. Yeah. And the thing about guys like Trevor Lawrence and Cooper flag, two years before they were drafted number one overall, they were expected to be the number one overall pick. We had Cooper flag on when he was at Mount Verde Prep. Yeah, he was like 16. Yeah. We all, we knew this, this isn't anything new. So the expectations, what's killing people and, and Kevin love. Kevin love sacrificed. He would have been a 10 time All Star if he stayed in Minnesota, but he went over with Lebron and Kyrie and decided to stand in the corner and win championships. Yeah. So we'll talk to Caleb. I think he's going to join us tomorrow in the program. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a part of it. Pay attention. Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio. Hit that subscribe button. Then smash that notification bell and catch all the videos from your favorite shows. Two pros and a cup of Joe. Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Doug Gottlieb, Kavino and Rich. The Odd couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington. The Jason Smith show with Mike Harmon and the Ben Ma show. Fox sports radio on YouTube. 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You are lying. Humongous, y'. All. They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. More phone calls coming up. I see this happen a lot where coaches get their opportunity, get to be a head coach, and then you want to establish culture. And then you go to the press conference. You want to let the media know you mean business. And Aaron Glenn is going through this right now. He, of course, was with Dan Campbell and the Lions and bringing that kind of attitude towards his press conferences with the Jets. He's their head coach. And Aaron Glenn a little spicy even coming off a victory. I'm going to. To pass on talking about injuries since you're Rich. He's not here. Has all the answers so you can. Guys can get all the injuries from. From Rich now. So I go right into this game as Rich. Well, I'm telling you, that's Rich. Well, you better call him. No disrespect to you or like, we want to hear from you. You know, like, you guys have been here. You guys have been hearing from me. But now since we're just reporting stuff, you know, that I haven't said, then maybe you should ask him. Okay, Rich is Rich Samini, who has been covering. Is he New York Post? Rich has been covering the jets for a long, long, long, long time. He's got his sources. Maybe he's getting information on injuries. And Aaron Glenn is. Aaron Glenn's not doing his job. You're the coach. Be bigger than this. Don't be petty. You know, when you win, you can be a jerk. You can be Bob Knight or Bill Parcells in these press conferences or Bill Belichick. You know, we've. We've seen this. I've experienced this firsthand. It's not pretty, but it's bullying. Aaron Glenn hasn't done enough to be able to go into a press conference and say something like this. Rich is Rich at espn. Okay. There. Got to make sure. I know these writers are at ESPN because they get upset sometimes when you not sure where they were. But yeah, yeah, now you're telling reporters trying to do their job to talk to another reporter to get the information. And Aaron Glenn should go in there and be. Just answer the questions. That's all. You just. You invite more of this, more criticism. People know they can get to you. Now you don't want the. The media is on your side. They'll be on your side until they're not. And then you don't want the media against you, because now you go in and you start to pick away at things, and then they sense that this bothers you. If you're Aaron Glenn, just answer the question. Okay? You don't have to be truthful. You can be evasive, but just give the impression you're trying to give an answer here. And so, yeah, Paul, I remember years ago, you talked to Brian Billick, the former Ravens coach, and he was always amenable to the media, was available for interviews, forthcoming during press conferences. He said, I always wanted the local media on my side. It can buy me some wiggle room here and there, week to week, year to year. But I was there when Bill Parcells was there and at the peak of his powers. And he would be intimidating in those press conferences. He wasn't professional, but he had learned from Bob Knight. And if you win, as Bob Knight, you know, proved, you know, and then when you don't win and then the media is on you, and then all of a sudden, you end up at Texas Tech, Belichick, that kind of attitude now, that wouldn't. That wouldn't fly unless you're winning. Then all of a sudden, we kind of, you know, Greg Popovich, you kind of put up with it. Oh, that's just him. But he's got a job to do. He knows you have a job to do. But, you know, my advice for Aaron Glenn is you don't have to have a battle. It doesn't have to be that way. Yeah, Todd. Especially in New York, of all places, where everybody already has an edge to them. And in that market, you know, they're ready to crush you at any drop of a dime. Drew in Columbus. Hi, Drew. What's on your mind today? 5, 11, 190. Thank you. I'm super excited about you having Kevin Love on. I'm a. I'm a Master's Cavs fan, and I would love to hear from his point of view, one of the most underrated moments of his career, which is when he gets switched on Steph Curry in game seven and the game seven of the 2016 finals. Dreams. That's a pick. He switches on Steph, and he absolutely locks Steph down with one of the greatest defensive 10 seconds I've ever seen to secure the championship. And I would love to hear what it was like from his point of view to have to step out and switch on his stuff at the end of a game seven. Yeah. Okay. We can talk about that. And, you know, Marvin and I were talking during the commercial break. Kevin Love is probably going to be a Hall of Famer. And. And it. That. That's a career that exceeded expectations. He had one year at UCLA and. And probably could have been a guy who just was a stat stuffer in mini. Minnesota. Minnesota. But he wanted to win, and LeBron wanted him and needed him, and they won a championship. You go to five All Star Games, you win a championship. And probably. And it's easier to get into the Basketball hall of Fame. They're. They're far friendlier. Although it still brings me back to Christian Laettner. It's not in the Basketball hall of Fame. And once again, I'm not friends with Christian Laettner. I'm just calling something out. How many times, you know, other sports where I go, that guy should be in the hall of Fame. And I've talked about this. Barry Melrose should be in the Hockey hall of Fame and do it while he's still alive. Sonny Vaccaro should be in the Basketball hall of Fame and do it while he's still alive. Mel Kuiper should be in the Pro Football hall of Fame, in my opinion. Contributions to the game, Christian Laettner. If Christian Laettner didn't play in the NBA, let's say he had an injury and could never play again, and we just had his basketball career at Duke, he'd be in the Basketball hall of Fame. It's like we used his NBA career against him. I think he played 15 years in the NBA. He was on the Dream Team. He's the only member of the Dream Team not in the Basketball hall of Fame. Now, is he on par with Magic and Larry and Mike and. No, he's not, but he was on the Dream Team. They wanted to have a college player. If you go back, watch him play against Shaq, I mean, he took on all comers. He took on everybody and wasn't afraid of anybody. And these were all great teams. You go up against Fab 5, you go up against UNLV. It just doesn't make any sense. Yes, Marvin. I think a good comparison would be like, Ralph Sampson. Ralph Sampson had a good start to his NBA career, almost like Christian later. Chris later made an All Star team, as did Ralph Sampson. And then he got hurt. But Chris Lee ended up playing, and he played a long time. He's like, oh, but he wasn't all that great. But I was. You guys talked me out of it because at first I thought it was, like, crazy that you would even mention him in there. But there's tons of guys that are in the hall of Fame. Look, Dino Raja is in the hall of Fame for what he did as an international player. Tony K. Coach is in as an international player. Yeah. So if you were unbelievably great, a top five all timer, you should be in. Yeah. Is Rick Mount in the whole Basketball hall of Fame? Once again, it's the basketball, not the pro basketball. It's the Basketball hall of Fame. So you have college coaches who are in there. But Rick mount in the 60s was one of the great scores. He played at Purdue, he got drafted by Indiana and he didn't put up any numbers in the NBA or duh, the aba. But he was a great college basketball. So if you're looking at best college basketball players, why can't they be in the Basketball hall of Fame? If Pete Maravich didn't have an NBA career, would he be in the Basketball hall of Fame? He should be. Yeah. Paulie. I think the thing that covers it in their mind is that there's a College Basketball hall of Fame, much low, more low profile, no offense, and guys like Rick Mount are in there. How about this? If it wasn't the Pro Football hall of Fame and was just the Football hall of Fame, would Tim Tebow be in? Yes, of course. Yeah. I mean he was a all time great in college football. Yes. And I. He had much less of a NFL career than Leitner had an NBA career. Yes. Yeah. He wasn't a good NFL quarterback. Yeah. Dylan, Johnny Manziel would probably be in there too, right? Yeah, I don't think so. I mean College Football hall of Fame, you're going to get in and he was fame, he was famous. But now that's where you could use his NFL career against him if, I mean he'd never be up for the Pro Football hall of Fame, but Yeah, it's just, it's tricky with that. I don't know. I find it interesting though if Leitner gave you whatever, 13, 15 years in the NBA. Yeah. Boeing. The other cop out is that Laettner is in the Pro Basketball hall of Fame or in the Basketball hall of Fame with the Dream Team, but not as an individual as you said. So it's almost like, well, he's kind of in that team. No, JJ in Cincinnati, I. JJ, what's on your mind? How you doing, Dan? Good. 61185. Back in 2016, I remember calling you and telling you like bring it up to the show about Kevin Love. Not worrying about Scoring and playing defense and playing off the ball that year. Because you were giving him a hard time that year. Remember that? Because he wasn't scoring and producing the way he was supposed to and he stepped up to the plate at the end of the day. Well, wait a minute, wait. When he went to the Cavs, I was saying that he wasn't, I mean, he wasn't going to be playing like he was in Minnesota. I was giving him grief because he was the third guy on that team. Right? Especially that final. You were on his butt that, that year about in the Finals, how he ain't stepping up playing like he was supposed to. You know what I mean? Well, where am I now on Kevin Love? J.J. you said what? Where am I now? Where, where do you think my opinion on Kevin Love is now? I think you respect him. I, I think you give him his props for stepping up to the plate. Well, that's called growth. That's called learning. It's called re. Examining opinions sometimes. But thank you for reminding me of that. I, I don't remember piling on Kevin Love because he wasn't putting up numbers. But if I did okay, then maybe I learned from that. Jj yes, Marvin. And if you were getting on him, that's because you knew he could play better. Well, sometimes you're trying to find out, just like Chris Bosh with, you know, the Miami Heat, like, you change a role, what is my role? And your role sometimes will fluctuate. It may change depending on the game situation, the opposition, all of those things. But I, I don't know if I was picking on Kevin Love and if I was, and maybe he deserved it. Did anybody ever think of that? Maybe he deserved that. Paulie has a Hall of Fame, Basketball hall of Fame quiz. I think you'll know the answer to this. Who is the only that I can find Basketball hall of Famer that never made an All Star Game? An All Star appearance. This gentleman played 12 years in the late 70s, all the way to 1990. Well known, very relevant team, a lot of winning, never made an All Star appearance. What were the years? 78 to 90. Was that Bobby Jones? No, but that's a very good guess. Yeah. Marv Michael Cooper. Michael Cooper is correct. 12 years for the Lakers, was defensive player of the year, first team, all defense, I think six different times, five time NBA champion. Did Bobby Jones make a All Star Game? I remember he was supposed to be the Dr. J stopper. And I go, oh, don't do that to Bobby Jones, because Bobby Jones played at North Carolina Great athlete, but he wasn't. He wasn't on par with the athleticism, with Dr. J. Yes. Paul, Bobby Jones made five all star games. Wow. Yeah, wow. He was on Denver early in his career and had a lot more scoring. Were those ABA appearances for you the first two years? Okay. All right. Yes. Marvin. Like I was saying earlier, those international guys that got in, maybe, like, I'm sure Dino Raja didn't make an All Star team or Tony Ku coach. He's in the hall of Fame. He didn't make an All Star Game. Tony Ku coach? Yeah. No. After Mike left and Scotty sat down. No. Confirmed. None. Wow. He was. He was a great international player until Scotty and Mike decided that he wasn't going to be a great international player. That wasn't nice. They were not nice. They were. If they wanted to hold a grudge, they were going to hold a grudge and they were going to hold you scoreless. Yeah. Paulie, I like Tony Kukoc, but if Tony Ku coach is in, he never played college. I know he was a good international player, but not like he won a gold medal and a above average NBA career. And you get in the hall of Fame over later. Yeah, I know. Interesting. There's a guy from BYU and I think he got in in 1974. His name is Kresmere Kosik or Kosik, but he was an international player and he played at byu and I just remember he. I think he made the hall of Fame and I don't remember anything about him. I don't know if. I don't think he played in the NBA. Like, they're just certain guys where you go, oh, you got a great international career. Like Oscar Schmidt. He deserves to be in the Hall. Is he in the Basketball hall of Fame? Sure is. Okay. Now he's on par with anybody in modern history in scoring anybody like the NBA players. They knew he was going to light him up for 35. Oscar Schmidt is one of the great scorers in basketball history. Yes, Marvin. And I think for the Basketball hall of Fame, the prerequisite normally to me is like either iconic players, iconic moments, or iconic teams. So if you were a big part of a bunch of those teams, Michael Cooper was on all five of those Showtime Lakers teams. So. Oh, Tony Kuko was on the 3P Bulls team. Yeah. Even no Bobby Jones, Casey Jones, like those guys that were on the 80s Celtics, Draymond will get in because he was a big part of the warriors dynasty. We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 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He seems to. And it's going to sound crazy to say it. He seems to have adjusted better than Cooper Flagg. Now, nobody's expecting Con Canymple to be an All Star, but he seems to know what he's supposed to do. Cooper Flag is still trying to figure this out. You're on a veteran team. You're 18 years of age. You're just trying to figure out, you know, what am I doing, where am I going, what is my role? Night in and night out. And he's had a couple of games. I would probably go with Edgecombe for the Rookie of the Year. I think he's dynamic. I think he can put up some big numbers and do it in, you know, highlight fashion. You got to go out of your way to find con can apple, but that boy can shoot. He's a great shooter, but he's got the third best odds. We got Maxion tonight. We had a couple of games last night, but what kind of action do we have? Well, it's always fantastic, Max. And you got Buffalo at Central Michigan, both five and four. North Illinois, wow. What happened to them two and seven and your UMass squad, they're oh and nine. Yeah. And then Toledo at Miami Ohio, both five and four. It doesn't feel like everybody's four and five or five and four in the Mac. Last night was a lot of fun. Yeah. Kent State, Akron, overtime. Yeah. Western Michigan and Ohio. Yeah. Mike in Florida. Good morning, Mike. What's on your mind today? Good morning, Dan. You're the best interview in the business. I've loved you for many, many years. Well, thank you, Mike and I. You're welcome. And I'm calling from the next home of Link Lanesville, Florida, formerly known as Gainesville, Florida. If he was going to accept Ole Miss deal, he would have already done it. Florida has over 500,000 living alumni. Ole Miss has a hundred thousand. It snows in Oxford. He's an hour from Atlantic or the Gulf here in Gainesville. This is his dream job? I think so. I think it's pretty much a done deal. And the hall pass, does she get a hall pass, too? And. And it's kind of like lay's potato chip. I bet he can't stop at just one. Oh, we were talking about Andre Karolenko. Got a hall pass from his wife during his NBA career. I don't know if it works the other way when she has a home game, when he's on the road and she has a home game. I don't. I don't know how that works. Yes, Marvin. Yeah. How does that work for NBA wise when it's like, where are you going? Oh, you have a road trip in Atlanta, then Miami. Oh, no. By the way, I. I missed a couple episodes of NBA Wives. Oh, Basketball Wives. Basketball Wives. I think the NBA wants to be. Oh, yeah, that's right. They're not allowed to say NBA Wives. And. And nobody's a wife. That's the thing. They're all old la work. That's. That's like their past wives. Yes. Formerly known as a wife. Basketball wife. Yes, Mark. Executive produced by Shaq's ex wife. That's how it started. Yeah. Oh, okay. But she's not on the show. She's just producing it, I believe. Okay. Man, there's always drama in their world. There is stuff going on with those basketball wives. Said what? You're dating Jason Maxiel now? Yeah. Wait, you're married to Speedy Claxton? Yeah, I am Speedy Claxton. Shouldn't. Shouldn't Scottie Pippen's ex be on that show? She should have a series of her own. Oh, I know what's going on there. She does. I think. Oh, oh, don't. What's her name? Larsa. Larsa. Larsa. Lots of Pippin. She's Lots of Pippin. She was dating Michael Jordan's son at one point. Oh, yeah, I know. And then for. Somehow, miraculously, that didn't work out. There's some wild stuff out there. Now. I know a lot of it's for the camera, but there's still. There are a lot of stuff out there when you're watching the Real Housewives. And, like, I can't do it because I just think it paints women in such a horrible light. But I'll still watch. It's still good tv. It is still good to me, Dan. This is why you need action. You gotta cleanse yourself with some action. I know, I know. Well, I'm getting some action off watching those shows. I might feel dirtier watching action, I think. Yes, Todd. Shout out to Gretchen. Real Housewives of Orange County. Thank you. Todd, how do you think you did today, playing hurt? I'm gonna go C minus. Something in that ballpark. Yeah. All right. But you're playing hurt. No excuses. Every day's a Super Bowl. Oh, I know, I know. I. I say that, but it feels like there are excuses. There should not be excuses. I have stuffed nose, cough, whatever you got. If you're here, that cough. That's yearly. When that cough comes back. Not a good time. No. This day in sports history. Paul. 1892, a gentleman named William Pudge Heffelfinger. Became the first professional football player. He was paid 500 bucks to help the Allegheny Athletic association beat Pittsburgh. Wow, 500 bucks is a lot. 1892 and the Detroit Lions in 1967 had 10 fumbles in a game for the record. And 1920 Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis elected first commissioner of the American and National Leagues. Also in 2010, it was Kevin Love 31 and 31, 31 points, 31 rebounds. The first 3030 game in 28 years. The Wolves were down 21 points, came back to beat the Knicks. And then Kevin Love set to join us, I believe, on the program tomorrow. Final results of the poll question. Dylan? Yes, Dan. So final poll question was which team do you have more confidence in? Colts, Broncos or Patriots? The Patriots are closing in on 50% of man. Okay, they're all in on Drake, maybe Mike Vrabel. Good stuff. By the way, we're signing the calendars. I believe tomorrow will be the first day you can pre order your holiday calendars. The DP show calendars. In fact, if you're watching on Peacock, if you look to the very right, there are tables that are lined up. We've been out there signing the calendars during the commercial breaks, but I'll give you more details on that tomorrow. They are really well done. There's some funny, funny pictures. These are iconic magazine covers that we did. And Fritzi, Fritzi and Seaton may have dominated the show. Todd, what'd you learn today? You already have your most must win game of the weekend. Notre Dame needs to take care of business at Pittsburgh Saturday. Dylan Paulie is fully latched on to Knipple. Yes, he nice latched on Marvin. Jason Garrett loves what he's doing until he gets a call. Paul Knipple for the win. Todd, what did I learn? Jason Garrett loves Jordan Love, but he throws up his back foot a little too much. Get Express employment professionals if you're looking for a job local connection to the job market. They never charge you a fee. Expresspros.com find a location nearest you. Expresspros.com thanks for joining us. Our pleasure to serve you. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Till then, this is an I heart podcast.