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Jonas Knox (3:47)

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LaVar Arrington (3:59)

It's the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here in for Dan and the guys as we take you all the way up until the end of this hour. You can listen to two pros and a cup of joe starring us three weekdays, 6 to 9am Eastern Time, 3 to 6am Pacific Pacific Time here on Fox Sports Radio. We are before the Dan Patrick Show. So sitting in for Dan and the guys here on this football Friday. We talked a little bit about the game last night. The Bears are terrible. Seattle scored six points and that was enough. So if you are a fan of defense, often running are these.

Brady Quinn (4:39)

Yeah, you're kind of game, baby. Yeah, get lavar.

Unknown (4:44)

No, I didn't like it. I don't like it. I usually will say, you know, what a defensive struggle. I don't think it was a defensive struggle. I just thought it was just, it wasn't, I don't know. It wasn't an exciting game. It was not an exciting game. It was not. It was competitive in the sense that both offenses weren't really able to do, you know, do much. I mean you could, we just watched it on television. You, you get an offensive lineman who cost you at the end of the than you earlier in the game where they got one of those scarce, scarce touchdowns. I guess the, the only pulse of of the game where there was real entertainment was with your boy DK Metcalf and, and him Hit budding and feeling a certain type of way. I just. I don't know, man. I just felt like it was a very, very subpar game, man. I didn't. I didn't find it to be very entertaining. My kids were walking out, they were like, this is what we're doing. I was like, man. And I was sitting there in my head, I didn't want to admit to him that I was right there with.

LaVar Arrington (5:53)

Him, you know, Mike, you know, my son said to me, like, he's really so.

Unknown (6:00)

Bear. Bears.

LaVar Arrington (6:01)

He's three. He's three. And he had. He had some toys laying around on the ground. And I said, and I tell him, like, mahe, you gotta pick up your toys. Well, you gotta clean up after yourself. And he says to me, the Bears don't clean up after themselves. And I swear to God, I thought.

Brady Quinn (6:19)

To myself, no, he didn't.

LaVar Arrington (6:20)

I saw on. On my life, he said exactly that. And I thought to myself, you know what? He's probably right. They probably.

Brady Quinn (6:26)

What does that even mean? What does that even mean?

LaVar Arrington (6:28)

I think he just. I think he just recognized that there was so much dysfunction in every Bears game he's watched this year that he realized, well, if they can't handle their business, why do I need to handle mine? Like, what's the point? I swear to God, that's a true story. And look, he was probably 100% accurate. That's just a bad football team. And if I were Pete Carroll, I'd go ahead and, you know, redact that statement that you are interested in the job. Whoever.

Brady Quinn (6:51)

What I found most interesting coming out of that was Jalen Johnson, their cornerback, who's an all pro caliber player, was already talking about the type of coach they'd need to bring in. Yeah, it's. It's not very often you hear a player talk about that while the season's still going on, maybe the postseason, maybe a podcast, something comes out. But, I mean, he seems invested, wanting the Bears to find an offensive mind to come in and work with and maximize Caleb Williams talents. So I found that just kind of interesting. Like, this is where the Bears are out at this point. I mean, players are sharing their opinion of who they want to be their next head coach.

LaVar Arrington (7:29)

Okay. And I can't stand the. We got to get an offensive guy. Rabel, Tommy Reese. Just give him the gig. There's your guys.

Brady Quinn (7:39)

I understand people feel that way, but here's the reason why most. Most people want an offensive guy. It's not for the reason that everyone thinks. And that's oh, because we want him to come in and develop the young quarterback, you know, make him that young. It's not that. It's the fact that if you bring in a Mike Vrabel and Tommy Reese is his oc, what happens? After one year of them actually making the playoffs and being good, Tommy Reese is leaving for a head coaching job. So that's the problem is if you look at the last string of Super Bowls was the last 12, they've pretty much all been offensive minded head coaches, with one exception being what Belichick. I mean that's what wins. That's how the league rules are set up. And so, yeah, you can go find a great defensive mind. Mike Rabel's a guy who's going to fall into that category. Brian Flores has done a tremendous job in Minnesota. He should get another shot at it. The problem is everyone's going to ask the question, who's your OC then? And then once the OC is hired, if they have enough success, they're a head coach soon. That's the hard part about it.

Unknown (8:45)

Yeah, well, I just don't know how, how these coaches are going to navigate some of these messes. I look at the Giants situation, you keep them. This is a Pete Prisco. You're damned if you don't. With the Giant situation, I feel like Chicago right now as it stands, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. With that situation. Like, I wouldn't touch it, I wouldn't touch, if I had the opportunity to get a head coaching job, it would mean more to me to preserve my reputation than to take a chance on thinking that I could turn that around. The only reason why I felt like the commander's job made sense for somebody to take a chance is, is because of new ownership. And a lot of people spoke very highly of the new ownership group and if it held true, you took a chance, you took a risk and it pays off for you. But these other situations. Carolina, what's going on with the, I mean, I like the Giants in terms of their ownership, but it just has not seemed as though, I wonder if there was a deteriorating of, of what the culture was, was going to be for the New York Giants because I wasn't too far after the, the original Mara and Tish's were there. So I just wonder was that, is this and, and, and listen, I, I, I want to be careful about it because, you know, I'm a former Giant and I, I have a, a respect for the mayor and Tish family that, that are there currently. But I just wonder, did that. Is it the same situation that took place in Washington where you saw a new owner take what a, a Cook family had built and the culture that was built and it deteriorated over time? I, I just don't know if that's what's going on here because it doesn't seem as though. It looks as though the Giants are remotely even close to heading in the right direction away from the bottom.

LaVar Arrington (10:46)

What about the Jets?

Unknown (10:48)

I feel the same way about the Jets. Bad. Like I wouldn't want that job. I don't think there's a job opening. Name one job opening that you would say, you know what? I feel comfortable with my odds going in there. Name one.

LaVar Arrington (11:05)

Yeah, can't. That's why they're open.

Unknown (11:08)

I mean, some good jobs open, though. They're like. I would have said. I, I would have said the jets was possibly a good opening if you didn't have Woody Johnson as the owner. I would have said the Bears were a good opening if. I don't know. I don't know them that well.

LaVar Arrington (11:29)

The McCaskeys.

Unknown (11:30)

I don't know them that well, so I won't speak on them. I don't know.

LaVar Arrington (11:34)

Apparently Jim Harbaugh was interested in the Bears job last year, but Kevin Warren kind of put a stop to that.

Unknown (11:39)

I mean, people have said things about the Rams and, and how they do things and how they run things, but it seems as though that's not the case. I mean, I feel like McVeigh has, has done really, really well and, and, and thrived since taking over the Rams. And then you look at the, the Chargers. People have said certain things about the Chargers and how they feel the Chargers are ran. And I feel like Harbaugh is there doing, doing a hell of a job right now. I, I don't. Maybe it's touch and go. I, I don't know. Maybe it's hit or miss. Maybe. Maybe the relationship that one of these coaches would come in and have with, with the ownership would lend to the environment and the culture. Maybe having an opportunity to change. Maybe they have an epiphany. I mean, is there a possibility that Woody Johnson is looking at everything that's going on and maybe the lowest point of all of this is as an owner of an organization that you have to see reports on the fact that you're, you're being talked about in a way where your kid said, don't pick this guy because of Madden rating.

Brady Quinn (12:44)

It's funny.

Unknown (12:45)

Do you get an epiphany. Do you, do you look in the mirror after that and you say, you know what? I've been very successful in my life and I'm going to adapt and I'm going to adjust and I'm going to hire somebody who I am going to relinquish my power and let them do what it is that they need to do to build our team to be the best team they could be. Maybe he has an epiphany. Jack and Brick, you just never, just never know.

LaVar Arrington (13:11)

Those are his trusted scouts.

Unknown (13:14)

Yeah, you just never know there.

LaVar Arrington (13:16)

Now, what about this? Because I'm wondering whether or not you guys are going to be the next to. To go in line with this. Desean Jackson is apparently about set or. I don't know if it's finalized yet, but they are working on a deal to finalize him as the brand new head coach at Delaware State.

Brady Quinn (13:34)

Hell yeah. Let's go.

LaVar Arrington (13:35)

It feels good. This is the. This is the new trend, huh?

Brady Quinn (13:39)

I love this, man. I love the fact that there's a lot of former players who are getting opportunities to coach now. I mean, look, in saying that, that's, if the organization, whether it be a university, whether it be a professional, you know, team, they have to give them time. Like, if you're going to make that decision to bring in a guy who's never been there before, you have to understand he's got a completely different perspective.

Unknown (14:02)

He's.

Brady Quinn (14:03)

He's going to come at, you know, at you from some different angles that you're probably not accustomed to, or he's not. He's going to be unaware of a lot of the, the duties, responsibility sometimes. So as long as there's patience to go along with it. But I love that. I love that for desean Jackson, I love that for Delaware State, those players, I just, I've met so many former players that they're in different, you know, jobs or careers at this point. I'm thinking, man, they'd be a great coach. And I think there's a lot of deterrence to wanting to become a coach sometimes. And sometimes it's. It's the track to get there, the long hours, the sacrifice, everything else, that's a part of that. And I understand there's a lot of listeners who are like, well, should they have to so. Well, yeah, to a degree. But they, they also have a PhD in football. Sean Jackson played for a long time, was really successful. So it's maybe not in that respect, you know, maybe as far from the administrative standpoint, Maybe there's something there, but I don't know. I love that for Mike Vick. When I heard the news. I love it for desean Jackson. I wish, you know, more. More universities and schools would take on the fact that there's a lot of really smart former football players out there that are trying to. To get involved in coaching impacting young men. And I don't know, I just. I love hearing that. I love hearing when universities take the opportunity to take that risk, obviously, because there's a risk that comes along with it, sure. But to turn the keys. A former player. I mean, Lavor, I know you've coached and. And everyone's got their own reasons for doing it or not doing it, but, like, you fall in that category, man.

Unknown (15:36)

Well, I mean, I feel like now we can do everything we want to do and still coach, so why not think about it, right? We could still do radio and do shows and not, you know, not have to choose.

Brady Quinn (15:48)

Is that what you're going to do? You could do that. 3:00am Wake up call.

Unknown (15:52)

I mean, I. I'll say this. I'll say this, Q. We do this show, and I. When I do the show out of State College, I am the only one in the building. Yeah, I am the only one in the building. And midway through our last hours when I start to see life come into the building. So If I'm only 30 minutes off, you know, I'm just saying I got the rest of my day. We can make the schedule. I mean, let's think about. Let's talk about it. You know, I think you and I should think about this. And like I said, we'll make Jonas like our design.

Brady Quinn (16:27)

You rope me into this.

Unknown (16:28)

Yeah, I was talking about you. Yeah, I'm roping you about you. Yeah, I'm roping out. I think you need to be the GM and I need to be the coach. That's what I think. GM and coach. And we'll do it that way.

Brady Quinn (16:41)

Well, what's Jonas gonna do?

Unknown (16:42)

So Jonas would be the designated. Because he's. He's good at this. He's got a background in it. He would lead up ticket sales. All right? We put him as the person that leads up ticket sales. And. And Lee, we. We would have Lee.

Brady Quinn (16:57)

I'll do that.

Unknown (16:58)

We'd have Lee hit up the. The sanitary, you know, crew, the sanitation crew. That. That takes care. No, no, no. I don't want Lee being involved.

Brady Quinn (17:07)

Please respond. For the plumbing.

Unknown (17:09)

Yeah, I want Lee to make sure that the. The bathrooms are clean and. And like all the, the locker room. Make sure that.

LaVar Arrington (17:16)

The locker room.

Unknown (17:17)

Yeah, make sure the locker rooms are clean, all that good stuff. But, you know, I think that would be good if he led that, led that division. And then we get, we off, we out, we on the right, we on the road, we on the roll now, like, let's go with it. I'm okay with that. You know, it's interesting. I did want to coach at the college level at one point. I thought about. I thought about going to Arizona State when, when AP left for Arizona State. Like, I thought about it. You know, I thought about it a couple times. I thought about going with. With coach Locks at one point in time. So, you know, I, I loved coaching. But one thing I will say, one thing I will say is if you take coaching seriously, there is a lot that goes, especially at the college and high school level. I don't know so much about pro. I'm not really privy to it that way, but just being a part of it, in terms of how, how I've been a part of, you know, development at the college level and at the high school level, there's just as much, if not more emotional, emotional work that you have to put in and be ready for, and that generally is round the clock. So if you're, you're talking about, you know, schematics and different things like that, X's and O's, that was something that I was really, really like, into. It's funny, I was looking at a picture of me and Urban doing. Doing. We were drawing up plays in, in the avocado room at FS1 and, and just. That was something that I could do all day long is just listen and, and interact with a coach of, of his, his caliber and us draw up plays and, and look at like, what, schematically, what, what this does, what it means, you know, how does that impact, you know, coverage, how does this pull, whatever, so on and so forth. I really enjoyed that as a coach and as a player. I just think people eff it up all the time. There's two people that, that eff it up, administrators eff it up and parents. Those are the two entities. As to why I left football. I don't like administrators. I think they get in the way. So if you don't, if you don't find yourself in a good situation where the people that are making decisions aren't, aren't supportive and, and aren't on board with what you want to do, that is, It's a waste of time. And parents and parents are probably number one. I hate to say it, but parents are number one. I don't like parents.

LaVar Arrington (19:53)

Would you rather be an NFL or college coach?

Unknown (19:58)

I honestly. You have more things you have to do at the college level. But I would love to be a college coach more than a pro coach because I think there's still more of a. A humanistic side to being a coach in college. I mean, it's probably because.

Brady Quinn (20:15)

Because they're still developing. Is that.

Unknown (20:17)

Yeah, I think so. I think so. Because I'm more. I'm more into it that way than, than. It's just cut and dry. This is your job. You do it. Like, I, I don't like having to feel that way.

Brady Quinn (20:28)

I. I think the other thing that is appealing because of that, and I think, look, Nil, you know, gets the. I don't know, probably the wrong. I don't know if it's a connotation to it, but, like, people think because Nil's infiltrated college football that, like, everyone's turned into pros and all these kids are jerks and it's all about money. Look, it. It probably is for the top, you know, 2, 3%. I mean, the rest of. Some of these kids, especially at big schools, are going to make money, but there's a huge, huge part of them being where they are because of things outside of football, like the education, the, the alumni, the experience, the, the networking, the, the whatever's going to happen after football's done. So I do think that's a cool part to hear you say that, because the majority, the large majority of college football players aren't going pro. Right. Like, I forget what the exact percentage is. A 3%, something like that. But whatever the number is, there's a large portion that aren't. And so you are coaching into them. Things that they need to worry about as a father, as a dad, as a business owner, as an employee. Like, whatever the case is, it's all those lessons that the game teaches you that you're trying to share with them. So I, I get that. That's. And again, that's why I get excited when I see, like, DeSean Jackson or I see Mike Vick. And just from knowing Mike, a little bit from Fox, like, man, like, that's a, That's a guy that has so many life experiences that he can share with young people who are still trying to figure it out.

Unknown (22:00)

Yeah.

Brady Quinn (22:00)

And hopefully, you know, be able to get in touch with them in a way that leads them down a path where they can avoid some of the Things, I mean, look, as a father now, like I've got four kids, I'm about ready, I have a fifth coming up here. And I can tell you right now, my six year old daughter is the type that unfortunately she just has to make mistakes like she had, she's just, I've tried my best at this point in time of her life and hopefully I can get it out of her. But I try to get her to realize like she doesn't need to touch the stove that's hot when dad tells her it's hot. But she's the type that needs to.

Unknown (22:31)

Do that because she wants to know how hot does hot mean? She wants to understand what your level. Because I was him, that's who I was. It's like, don't touch it, it's hot, you'll get burnt. But really, will it burn me or would it just burn you? Right? Is it, is it hot enough to burn you and not hot enough to burn me? Or is this hot? Really? Like, oh yeah, like I touch it like that is hot. Now I get it. I appreciate you.

Brady Quinn (22:55)

For me, I'm gonna have you just talk to her on speakerphone then from now on. So I'm gonna call you probably five times a day to have to talk my six year old off the ledge of whatever decision she's about ready to make. But, but the whole point is like obviously if, if whoever it is, you know, former player, guys like Mike Vick, like desean Jackson, when they can, you know, speak into these guys lives, like it could be life changing, like college.

Unknown (23:19)

It is life changing. Listen, I, I'll say this. I, I just sent my man to, to Penn State yesterday. We just dropped him off to go to Penn State and get, you know, get going with the team yesterday. And that was, that was an earth moving experience to know that that's what he grew up around. I've coached, I coached pretty much his entire life. Whether it was Under Armour games, whether it was doing the Under Armour camps, coaching at Long Beach Poly, coaching at Maranatha, coaching at Charter Oak. I've coached his entire life. And the one thing that was always important was the development, the growth of belief, the development, the growth of understanding, self confidence, self worth, you know, being accountable, learning, accountability. You know, one thing that you find to be very challenging is, is that a lot of young, young men these days don't even understand what accountability really represents and then what self accountability, you know, what it truly represents and just having the opportunity to be a part of that growth and that understanding and illuminating moments. I think you're 100% right, Q. Because I think if a guy can't, you know, part of me getting back in shape to the audience out there that doesn't know this, I was like, obese. I was like, super fat and fat, my face fat, my belly, just overweight. And I started.

Brady Quinn (24:41)

You always do this. It's so over the top.

Unknown (24:43)

The reason not fat. The reason why I went back into my leg.

LaVar Arrington (24:52)

He's the mom from what's Eating Gilbert Grape.

Unknown (24:55)

Why I'm not that big.

LaVar Arrington (24:57)

We had to burn the house down. We couldn't get him out.

Unknown (24:59)

I was not that big, bro.

Brady Quinn (25:00)

You were never as big as you always think big.

Unknown (25:04)

That was almost 300 pounds, man. That's almost 300 pounds. I was like 5, 10 pounds away from, from 300. That's big as hell. That's like, I'm on my way to 240, 238. I said I'm on my way to. And, and part of the reason why I, I went on that journey to get myself back in shape is because I still have great relationships with guys at Penn State and, and guys that are in high school, and I can't be walking around them being fat and out of shape and not taking care of myself and telling them about self accountability and, and doing things the right way and making sure that you, you handle, you know, your, your health and your nutrition. It's like they're looking at me like, you're not doing it. You don't do it. And that was a lot. And on God, that is a large part, a large reason. And thanks to PhD weight loss. Dr. By the way, I took that journey.

Brady Quinn (25:59)

I knew this was coming.

Unknown (26:00)

I took that journey.

LaVar Arrington (26:03)

There's your life. Hey, Lee. There's your live spot.

Brady Quinn (26:08)

Oh, man, you're so shameful. That was where this was going.

Unknown (26:13)

It's the.

LaVar Arrington (26:14)

I mean, you do look great.

Unknown (26:15)

Thank you. Yeah, thank you. You go shoot me through. All right.

Jonas Knox (26:18)

Thank you.

LaVar Arrington (26:20)

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Lee Delap (26:51)

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Unknown (31:09)

Tell me how that works. You go from being on top to down in the gutter.

LaVar Arrington (31:17)

That's like the opposite of a parlay. No, you can't.

Unknown (31:24)

I already did that one out of there.

LaVar Arrington (31:26)

It is the Dan Patrick show here on FOX Sports Radio. I'm telling you, man, these, the Latin news networks, they really, it's a different presentation, you know, just the whole thing, the whole, the whole morning news of a different presentation. The way they do it there. So it's fun. It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas in for Dan and the guys, by the way. A little over 15 minutes from now, we're going to present to this audience something we do on our show, two pros and a cup of Joe. It's called Lee's Leftovers. We basically turn it over, turn the keys over to Lee and Lee, our.

Unknown (32:05)

Producer, and just ask God for help and safety.

LaVar Arrington (32:08)

Basically.

Unknown (32:09)

Yeah.

LaVar Arrington (32:09)

You know, it's like you're just hoping that before you pull the chute, you're hoping that it works, you know, so we're gonna, we're gonna dust that one off and try it out for this audience here. Coming up in a little over 15 minutes from now. I'd like to, I would like to admit something that I got wrong. Apologize.

Brady Quinn (32:26)

What'd you get wrong? What did you, what did you make a far too early declaration of.

LaVar Arrington (32:32)

So for people that weren't listening, we were discussing the MVP in the NFL.

Unknown (32:38)

Oh.

LaVar Arrington (32:39)

And about three weeks ago, I said, it's a done deal. Get the shovel out, start putting the dirt on the casket. You know, like everything is.

Unknown (32:50)

Pull the fork out.

LaVar Arrington (32:51)

Yeah, it is over. Josh Allen is the MVP of the league. Like, I was convinced. And then Lamar Jackson kept playing football for the past three weeks, and I'm like, you know what? I, I got it wrong. He is by far and away the best quarterback in the NFL this season. By far and away the MVP of the season. I don't, I'm not saying he's going to win it, but right now the odds have slipped. Josh Allen is still a 2 to 1 favorite. I think there's a real shot and there's like a groundswell of support for people going, hold on a second. We're really just not going to give it to him because we're fatigued by what he's doing. He was the MVP last year and he's significantly better this year. And just watching him the other day, I'm like, I don't, I don't know who you like. Look at Josh Allen's resume and go, oh, yeah, I'd a hundred percent give it over to man, like, Lamar Jackson's the best quarterback in the NFL. And I was way wrong on that. So I would like to apologize to you guys here on the show.

Brady Quinn (33:54)

I mean, didn't we try to warn you of this and making this proclamation that Josh Allen wanted after what game was it that you declared that that was it?

LaVar Arrington (34:02)

Was it the, was it the Lions game? No, not the Lions. It was before that. It was before that. It might have been the Rams. Even when they lost to the Rams, I said, oh, God, look what he did in that game.

Brady Quinn (34:14)

Yeah, it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird.

LaVar Arrington (34:17)

Yeah. Lamar's so good.

Unknown (34:19)

I mean, he's playing lights out right now. Yeah, he's hitting. He's so balanced and he's doing it in so many different ways. And listen, you can throw the argument point that, you know, he does have Derek Henry to, to run the football for him, but I would, again, we talked about this on the show yesterday. I would argue that Derrick Henry, if you're going to say Lamar Jackson needs Derek Henry. I would say that Derek Henry needs Lamar Jackson just as much, if not more. And the idea that you now have to. You ha. You have to play it honest on both sides and, and honest for the defense. Meaning I can't, I can't take a chance like, okay, we can stop this running back. So I'm gonna go. We, we gotta get on our horse and go after that. That quarterback because we can't let him get, you know, get in the open. It's going to be tough. Or if we take too long, he actually will find someone down the field. You can't say that with the running back because if you let Derrick Henry get his shoulders pointing north, south, you're going to have an issue. I don't care how good you are, you're going to have a problem trying to deal with him. So you got to stay at home and you got to play it. Those RPOs are freaking hell to deal with with this Ravens team. And, and what'd you say you get give credit to. To the offensive coordinator they brought in Monkin. And, and just taking the strengths of what he does, Lamar Jackson does, and then adding a running back and taking the strengths of what he does and adding that to the total whole of what they both bring to the table.

LaVar Arrington (36:02)

What's it like as a defender when you got to see those?

Unknown (36:04)

I'm telling you, it's a, it's a, it's a major, it's a major headache to defend. Even if you're prepared for it. You know, you know the tendencies, you know what they're going to do. It's just a whole nother thing to have to stop it.

LaVar Arrington (36:18)

Was there any combination close to that when you played?

Unknown (36:21)

No.

LaVar Arrington (36:21)

Like, what was the most daunting quarterback running back combo you dealt with.

Unknown (36:29)

Running wise? I mean, I, I would. I don't know.

LaVar Arrington (36:33)

So this is just another level.

Unknown (36:35)

Yeah. Bro. Was work done with, with Mike Vick. I don't know if they were together that. I mean, I don't remember. So it wouldn't be like. I'm not going to say it's significant. I don't think there's a significant running back. They were together. That's. I mean, that's. But they weren't running RPOs like it were. It wasn't as evolved offenses. Lamar.

Brady Quinn (36:58)

Better than Vic.

LaVar Arrington (36:59)

Lamar Jackson, Mike.

Unknown (37:02)

No, bro.

LaVar Arrington (37:03)

You don't think so?

Unknown (37:04)

I wouldn't go. I wouldn't get carried away with that. I, I just, I just think that the way offenses have evolved and where, where offensive schemes have gone. It is much more friendly to a mobile quarterback than what it's ever have been in, in time.

Brady Quinn (37:22)

So 100%. Yeah, like love to see Michael Vick in, man. It's. It's tough because you know, Vick probably has the stronger arm and I don't know, I. To, to Lavar's point, offenses are much more conducive to fitting around the skill set of a quarterback now. Whereas when Mike Vick came to league, I mean they were probably trying to coach him up on the different seven and five step drops and play action fakes and all that crap. Like instead of just building the entire offense around him. I'm sure there's certain things they put in for him specifically, but not like today's game. It's entirely different.

Unknown (38:00)

It's different, man. And, and listen, I. Skill wise, I think they're built differently. I think they, as I mentioned before, I think they both have skill sets that are similar and I think they both have skill sets that are very unique to them. But looking at the way, the balance in which they're playing in Baltimore right now and the idea that you're seeing the numbers go down in terms of Lamar Jackson's rushing yards and his attempts to. On running and yet he's still getting, and he's getting less yards, but he is still running the ball when it makes sense and running it well. But he's looking to find his receivers more than what he has in years past. And that could be the big differentiator going into this year's playoffs is that he's going to find the open guy you're trying to pull up as a defense and you got to make a decision, do I stay in coverage or do I try to go get him? If I stay in coverage and he comes up out of that backfield, I might not get to him. If I go to get to him and he sees it, he's going to let it go and go and go downfield. Oh, by the way, on the backside because we're doing this RPO style offense. If he hands the ball off before we even get to that point of him stressing you out on holding the ball and keeping it as a run pass option, he may hand it off to, to, to Derek and if he hands it off to him, everybody has to stay put and stay in place because you don't know if he's getting the ball. If he gets the ball, you gotta rally to Derrick Henry immediately. You got to. One guy may not get him and if he gets his shoulders turned now, you got to start thinking about business decisions going forward, and that ain't what you want. An entire game. It's just the perfect storm, man. Jalen Hurts and Saquon have this, but Jalen Hurts is nowhere near the. The amount of skill and talent in terms of just pure athleticism going along with what. What goes with what he brings to the table. That would be the closest comp. But. But Lamar and Derek are on. That's a whole different. That's a different stratosphere, if you ask me.

LaVar Arrington (40:16)

Yeah. And now we get to see whether or not it plays out in a deep run in the postseason.

Brady Quinn (40:21)

Jonas, I got a quick question for you, because you are one that likes to make bets. You're a betting man.

Unknown (40:25)

Sure.

Brady Quinn (40:26)

And in the past, you have made some outlandish bets, and you haven't necessarily paid up for all of them. I'm sure Lee could try to find that somewhere where you've made some bets about different color analysts for tv. But that being said, that being said, would you like to make a bet now on the Dan Patrick show on live air what you will do if Josh Allen does not win the mvp? Yeah, come on, make it. I mean, you made this proclamation a few weeks ago.

Unknown (40:56)

You gotta pay it.

Brady Quinn (40:57)

Yeah. You actually have to follow through. I mean, there was something about Tony romo making over 10 million a year or something one time. He never paid that one up.

LaVar Arrington (41:06)

By the way, if Tony Romo gets $10 million a year, I'm getting a sex change.

Unknown (41:10)

Okay, first of all, that's still Jonas Knox. I'm looking at Jonas Knox. Voice is still the same. Everything's still the same.

Brady Quinn (41:18)

We. We can still really aggravate you and get you motivated by tapping the truck. Nuts. As Lavar pointed out earlier.

Unknown (41:25)

Yeah. You can. You can double down on that bet that you did not pay up on all those years ago by making the double down bet today, right now.

LaVar Arrington (41:36)

All right, so Lamar has a grill, right? He plays.

Unknown (41:38)

He does have a grill.

LaVar Arrington (41:40)

All right, so Josh Allen doesn't win mvp.

Brady Quinn (41:42)

I have to do a show.

Unknown (41:44)

No, not a show.

Brady Quinn (41:45)

I'm not paying for it. I'm not paying for that. I want to be up front.

LaVar Arrington (41:48)

I'll do the Rob Parker.

Unknown (41:49)

You got to wear the grill for, like, a month straight, and you can't take it out except to go to sleep.

LaVar Arrington (41:55)

I'll do the Rob. You know what the Rob Parker grill is?

Brady Quinn (41:58)

No, what's what? Tin foil.

LaVar Arrington (41:59)

Tinfoil.

Unknown (42:00)

No, no, no, no, no.

Brady Quinn (42:03)

By the way, that's not the Rob Parker one. That's yours. Like you're a cheap ass too, so.

LaVar Arrington (42:07)

No, I didn't do it. Rob Parker did. For Halloween.

Brady Quinn (42:10)

I'm sure that might be the case. But you do the, you do the beyond Jonas Knox version, which is that cheap ass version you're gonna try to pull. I don't know. I don't know.

Unknown (42:18)

What? Yeah, you gotta switch it up. Not. Not a grill. Come on, let's go back to pole pumps. 20 pole pumps live.

Brady Quinn (42:27)

No one even knows what that is. You're the only person I've ever heard talk about a pole pump.

Unknown (42:31)

Pump the pole. People know about it. Twitter and xn, they know. They know what? The poll.

Brady Quinn (42:37)

No one has any idea about that.

LaVar Arrington (42:39)

Trust.

Unknown (42:39)

They all know it. I trust it. I already did that. Already done. Yeah.

LaVar Arrington (42:43)

Now repeat the latest one.

Unknown (42:44)

Done.

LaVar Arrington (42:45)

That's a 9 millimeter.

Unknown (42:46)

Already. Already handled it.

LaVar Arrington (42:49)

All right. I just know that, listen, if you want to like really attack that Ravens offense, you probably got to have a good defense. You need better communication. Would say.

Unknown (43:00)

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LaVar Arrington (43:25)

Hell yeah. It is the Dan Patrick show here. Fox Sports Radio up next. We will close up shop on this Friday with a little special edition of Lee's Leftovers right here on fsr.

Lee Delap (43:35)

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LaVar Arrington (47:58)

Where Life Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. We're going to be back in this time slot filling in for Dan and the guys coming up on Monday as well, too. So we'll have a full recap of the busy weekend in the NFL, some bowl games and college football. All that for you coming up on Monday. A reminder before we close up shop here today that shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up. If you've missed any of it, be sure to check out the pod. Search Dan Patrick or two pros wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow, rate and review it again. Just search Dan Patrick or two pros wherever you get your podcast. You will see this show posted right after we get off the air.

Lee Delap (48:38)

These might smell a little funky.

Unknown (48:40)

What is that?

Lee Delap (48:41)

Sounds incredible, but they're still good. Time to find out what's left. It's Lee's leftovers.

LaVar Arrington (48:48)

All right, we've turned the keys over to Lee Dalap, our executive producer.

Unknown (48:53)

Buckle up, Lee.

LaVar Arrington (48:54)

Let's try this out with this audience.

H (48:56)

All right, let's try it out. We obviously have a holiday week of football all week long, but today we have five college bowl games.

LaVar Arrington (49:04)

Hell yeah.

H (49:04)

Including the Armed Forces Bowl. Kicking things off, Oklahoma versus Navy. Later, we have the Holiday bowl on Fox between Syracuse and Washington State.

Brady Quinn (49:12)

Yeah.

Unknown (49:12)

Nice. All right, sweet.

H (49:14)

Also got Georgia Tech versus Vanderbilt, Texas Tech versus Arkansas. That's the Liberty Bowl, Birmingham bowl and Las Vegas bowl later this evening, usc.

Brady Quinn (49:23)

So we've got, we've got the Armed Forces both starting up here at about 10 minutes on, on the East coast, what, 12pm Eastern. Lee, how many of these games are going to be sober for? There's four of them today. The last one starts at 8pm Eastern. How many will you be sober for?

H (49:39)

I will be sober for the first two and then probably around Liberty Bowl.

Brady Quinn (49:44)

No chance, buddy. You've got maybe one game.

Unknown (49:47)

I, I actually think maybe one half.

Brady Quinn (49:49)

Yeah, I was gonna say halftime of the Oklahoma Navy gets Turned.

Jonas Knox (49:54)

Lee.

LaVar Arrington (49:54)

I mean, it's not. Yeah, that's not even. It's not even 9:00 out here. Isn't this Bloody Mary hour?

H (49:59)

That's a good call. You know what? You guys are right. I'm gonna go get a Bloody Mary after this.

LaVar Arrington (50:03)

I'll start right now.

Brady Quinn (50:05)

Was really hard. That was really hard.

LaVar Arrington (50:09)

Right?

Unknown (50:10)

Yeah.

H (50:10)

It's the holidays. Yeah.

Brady Quinn (50:11)

You know, you put on some Jimmy Buffett this time of year. A little Bloody Mary for you, Lee. Put on some college football. I think that goes well.

Unknown (50:20)

Yeah.

H (50:20)

Start. Start the. Start the bubbles on the hot tub. I think you guys have got a good idea going on.

Unknown (50:25)

Hot tub.

H (50:26)

Heat up the hot tub.

Unknown (50:27)

What? What hot tub?

H (50:28)

My hot tub.

Unknown (50:30)

Wait, wait.

Brady Quinn (50:30)

Your hot tub?

Unknown (50:31)

Wa. Wait, wait, wait. What. What hot tub? Lee, we're in. Is it.

H (50:35)

I got a hot tub at the folks place.

LaVar Arrington (50:37)

Damn.

H (50:38)

Go over there.

Brady Quinn (50:38)

So your. It's your folks's hot tub.

Unknown (50:40)

Yeah. Will you be alone or will you be accompanied first game?

H (50:44)

I'll be alone.

Brady Quinn (50:45)

Oklahoma, I was going to say, are your parents going to walk in on you just sipping a Bloody Mary watching college football in the hot tub?

H (50:52)

It wouldn't be the first. Wouldn't be the first time. It probably won't be the.

LaVar Arrington (50:55)

By the way, where are the all the USC fans that were claiming USC's back after they opened up the year and Vegas and beat LSU only and end up right back in Vegas to bookend the year in the Las Vegas bowl against Texas A and M. Sure that'll be a packed house there for this. Nothing else going on in Vegas. What a waste.

Unknown (51:14)

Dang.

LaVar Arrington (51:15)

What else, Lee?

H (51:16)

Guys, if you do need a break from the football, which I don't know why you would, but if you did. Lots of good movies out this weekend. A complete unknown on Bob Dylan, Nosferatu, vampire movie and what, just open the Lion King.

Unknown (51:27)

Yeah, Mufasa was better than the original. Better than the original.

LaVar Arrington (51:32)

Oh, you went inside?

Unknown (51:33)

Yes, I did. Fire Fire movie.

H (51:38)

That's the one I haven't seen yet. I'll go see that.

Unknown (51:40)

Fire.

H (51:40)

The fire. Speaking of fire, the Fire Inside is a sports biography film on the shields. Yeah, that's supposed to be pretty good. First American woman to win the gold, so that'd be worth checking out as well.

Unknown (51:54)

Dang. I thought you said you like boxing.

LaVar Arrington (51:57)

I'm good.

Unknown (51:58)

Okay.

LaVar Arrington (51:59)

Plus, I mean, you know the Aaron Rodgers documentary after I starred in that, you know, on Netflix. It's hard to get into anything else, to be honest.

Brady Quinn (52:07)

I mean, that's kind of Random to bring that up out of nowhere.

Unknown (52:09)

I'm just saying he's got a man crush on him.

Brady Quinn (52:13)

Is.

LaVar Arrington (52:13)

I think there's a new UFO documentary as well, too.

Unknown (52:16)

Is that right? What's it called?

Brady Quinn (52:18)

Yeah, what's that called?

LaVar Arrington (52:19)

What's it called? I think it's called the Program.

Brady Quinn (52:25)

Lee. What else you got, squid?

H (52:26)

Games. 2 just came out starting, guys. An update on Panthers rookie Xavier Leggette obviously made the rounds last week. Talking about eating some raccoon over the. Over the holiday time.

Unknown (52:36)

Our.

H (52:37)

Our teammate Sheena quick out of FSR 1340 in Charlotte says she had tried some. He pulled it out of his locker room. She said it was, uh, very well seasoned, very spicy.

LaVar Arrington (52:45)

What do you mean, he. What is it, like, beef jerky?

H (52:48)

It looks like pulled pork almost. Yes, it looked very stringy.

Unknown (52:52)

Oh, very strange.

LaVar Arrington (52:55)

I'm not eating anything. We got hit by a truck.

Unknown (52:58)

It might have not got hit by a truck, bro. It might not have been roadkill. I mean, they will do that, but it just is. It's not always roadkill. They might have hunted.

LaVar Arrington (53:10)

Like, why can't you just eat, like, something else? Like get a tuna sandwich?

Unknown (53:15)

I don't know how to respond to it. I'm just. It's not enough time. Was that it, Lee?

H (53:20)

Well, an update on our flying friend in the studio, Mr. Bat, that got away a few weeks ago. I think I might have found him. I could smell him above my desk.

LaVar Arrington (53:30)

Oh, yeah, really smell something over there.

Unknown (53:32)

There's.

Brady Quinn (53:32)

Yeah, there's a course to be above Lee's desk.

Unknown (53:35)

Lee, let one go. Stand a chance.

LaVar Arrington (53:39)

It's also on his chair.

Unknown (53:40)

Have a great weekend.

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