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Is John Middlekopf from Three and out with John Middelkopf. Thursday Night Football is back. This week the Washington Commanders take on the Green Bay Packers. Coverage begins and at 7pm Eastern and it's only on Prime Video. Not a Prime member. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.
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Paulie
The rest of the month. Thursday night football week two, Dol at Bills.
Dan Patrick
Okay, all right.
Paulie
Seahawks at Cardinals. Cools off a little bit. Then 49ers at Rams.
Dan Patrick
Okay, all right, all right. Got some rival rivalry. We games. That's why I always hated the Red Rifle. The rivalry game. Red river rivalry.
Paulie
It used to be the Red River Shootout.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I did. Much easier. Yes.
Marvin
Red river rivalry. Yeah, it gets stuck in the back of your throat.
Dan Patrick
Red river rivalry, Sunday night. J.J. mcCarthy makes his Sunday night debut. It's the Vikings Hosting Michael Pennington Jr. III and the Falcons. JJ McCarthy, Mr. Prime Time, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, Mike in Washington leads us off. Good morning, Mike. What's on your mind today?
Caller
Hey, good morning, guys. How y' all doing? I got a suggestion for fritzing.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
Caller
Okay. What if you guys tally the gongs and at the end of the year, whoever has the most gongs gets the wheel of punishment.
Dan Patrick
Well, nobody else is going to get gonged on the show, Mike. It's going to be Todd and I have to be fair to the as. As their boss, and I'm human resources here. You know, the. The wheel of punishment kind of bordered on abusive behavior. I don't know what. What was. What was the Worst Wheel of Punishment that we handed out as you. Then you get a lightning bolt in the back of your hair.
Paulie
Yeah, we had a lightning bolt shaved in the back of my head, which on sports radio is fun, but when you're picking up your kids from school, you get looks.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Do you remember, Seaton, You. You had a couple of bad ones, I think, with Wheel of Punishment.
Marvin
Yeah, a bunch. That's how the pies in the face started.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. We had this Wheel of Punish. Yeah.
Paulie
See, didn't he get, like, honey and something poured on him in a. Like a bag, Like a bowl full of honey?
Marvin
That was a. In the shower of shame era of the show. And I don't know if that crossed into which came first. Wheel of Punishment, Shower of Shame. I'm not exactly sure. I had numerous of those. I had chili poured on me. I had honey.
Dan Patrick
I had. I know.
Marvin
I think it was like, honey and beach sand or something like that. I had a lot of those, and.
Dan Patrick
I thought, God, it'd be great to come up with a shower of shame. And then I actually had the big germ in the back room. Guys built. They spent a weekend building a shower of shame, and I was so proud of it. And I thought, at no point did I think, you know, is this really fair to the Dan ants? All I cared about was content. Yes, Todd.
Todd Seaton
And as you mentioned, if you take those behavior in the workforce training classes, you know, we probably broke about 73 of those based on the showers of Shames and Wheels of Punishment.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. You know, we don't get to hear Wheel of Punishment anymore, Marvin.
Marvin
It's pretty iconic. Rip Odorous. It's still my most favorite thing that we've done on the show. And the fact that that was included on the Italian version of the album, that song.
Dan Patrick
Marvin.
Marvin
I think it was.
Dan Patrick
Do we have Wheel of Punish? It's good.
Mark Sanchez
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin.
Todd Seaton
That's the first time I'd ever heard of that theme song. You were looking at me like, Marvin. I was like, dan.
Dan Patrick
You missed the Wheel of Punishment era.
Todd Seaton
I did.
Dan Patrick
Oh, that's right. We've been doing this a long time. Yeah. Paul.
Paulie
Didn't we try with management to call it the Wheel of Funishment, and they still didn't say that was cool.
Dan Patrick
I don't remember that.
Marvin
They had to make a movement from the back row, specifically Andrew Perloff, to say, what if we made the Wheel of Punishment more like fun things, like a reward to do, and we tried to turn it into the Wheel of Funishment? However, there was zero Support behind that. Because who wants to, like, hey, all right. Wheel of punishment. You get hit in the face with a pie or no, hey, you get.
Dan Patrick
To eat your favorite pie. That's great.
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Why don't we do that instead?
Dan Patrick
You get to plan the menu for meat Friday. It's the wheel of punishment.
Marvin
So much fun.
Dan Patrick
Well, that wasn't as bad as Fritzie with the suggestion box. The anonymous suggestion box. And I said, todd, you're the only one who's gonna put in suggestions, and I know your handwriting.
Todd Seaton
But I was gonna cut things out of a magazine like one of those serial killers where I wouldn't have to write anything.
Dan Patrick
And be honest with me. Did you go behind my back to management?
Todd Seaton
I did not. That I would never do.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Todd Seaton
And if I even thought about that, I'd say, dan, I just want to give you the heads up. I'm contacting human resources about a few things going on around here that I don't like.
Dan Patrick
But there were some things you didn't like because you came up with these suggestions.
Todd Seaton
I did, and I didn't know how to handle that. Did adult fashion. So I'm like, maybe in a passive aggressive way, I could put my beeps in, like, a little note, and then you could read it at your leisure. And then.
Dan Patrick
Holly, do you have Todd's original email that he sent around?
Paulie
Of course I do.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Paulie
Quote, everyone has issues at their workplace. They wish they had the courage to some way verbalize or communicate their anger and frustration. Could be funny to incorporate this on air.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Todd Seaton
I must have been going through a particularly. You know where I got particularly beat up over a stretch of time where I'm like, everyone has their, like, limits in the line. And, you know, something was being crossed at that point. Like, you know what? I got to do the suggestion box suggestion.
Marvin
We've come a long way from the suggestion box, I'll tell you that.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, we can bring it back, Todd, if you want it.
Todd Seaton
I don't think I have actually put anything in it. We never really had. We never went forward with this.
Dan Patrick
Because I told you we weren't going to do it. Because I would know it was from you.
Todd Seaton
Yes.
Dan Patrick
It wouldn't be anonymous. You'd be the only guy who would put it in.
Todd Seaton
Somehow I realized right at that moment, you know what? Yeah. That doesn't make sense. They'll totally know it's me.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Paulie
The email, so old, it was sent from a BlackBerry.
Todd Seaton
BlackBerry. I was so afraid to get rid of my BlackBerry until the company said, we will not. You Will not be able to receive any emails on BlackBerry. You've got to get it. Apple.
Dan Patrick
Andrew in Atlanta. Hi, Andrew. What's on your mind today?
Caller
Good morning, DP and Danuts. The worst wheel of punishment has to be McLovin eating the fries off the lady's plate. Without question.
Marvin
That was terrible.
Dan Patrick
Okay. I came up with the idea, and McLovin lost a bet, and he was going to be a waiter, and he was going to be downstairs. So we were above a bar, and he was going to go downstairs, and he was acting as if he worked at the restaurant. He walked over to these two girls who were sitting there and he grabbed. He want to know how they were doing. And then he grabbed one of the fries and. And dipped it in. And we had cameras hidden. And these women, the look on their faces was awesome. And probably. I probably crossed the line maybe with that one. Yes.
Paulie
Paulie, Seed and I were stationed at the next table over with a hidden camera, and McLovin was being very pleasant. How are the meals so far? How are your lobster rolls?
Todd Seaton
Great.
Paulie
And then he just grabs two fries off one of the lay's tables, dips them, eats them, and runs. And they froze. It was like a culture shock to them. They fascinating.
Dan Patrick
I know McLovin was a good sport, though. He did a lot of fun things. He did not want to do that one. I was like, no, you got to do that, McLovin. You got to do that one. Said he got a. A T shirt, seven seas T shirt. And then walked in through the back area and these two girls, and you could just see them, they're just, you know, chatting it up. He walks by, hey, how's it? Is everything good? Good, good. And he grabs the fry. Ah, good times. Good times. Tyler in North Dakota. Hi, Tyler. What's on your mind today?
Caller
Hey, Dan. Six two, 220, give or take about £10 there. It depends on the month. All right. I think I have an analogy for you guys on toddlers. I love Todd. He's awesome. But Todd reminds me of my golf game. Holes one through 17, not good. The whole 18. You get that par or that bird, and you're like, you know what? I can come back for more.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Tyler. Yet Todd is not easily discouraged.
Todd Seaton
I don't think that was a sweet analogy. I appreciate it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I mean, you come back, you do. You. You. You're like rocky. You know, you take some punches, but you're. You're standing in there.
Todd Seaton
Well, there's no other option. What, do you crawl under the desk? And, you know, I've tried whining and crying and things like that, and that never works.
Dan Patrick
I know, but I haven't spoken to your wife in a long time. I haven't had to do that.
Todd Seaton
You have not.
Dan Patrick
And that's good. We're making progress. We're having fun. You know, can you hold on for two and a half more years?
Todd Seaton
You know what? I think I can.
Dan Patrick
Good. All right. Yes. Marvin.
Todd Seaton
The funny thing is, there's times where you're telling him to stop, and it's joke. You know, you're playful. And there's other times where you're dead serious.
Dan Patrick
And Fritz, he's still like, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't.
Todd Seaton
Do what I want to do anyway.
Dan Patrick
Does not matter. The. The advice I've given you, when you've even asked for advice, and then you don't take the advice.
Todd Seaton
But you know me well. It's not meant to be rude or stubborn or dismissive. It's just. That's just my way. It's like I. I'm gonna just do it my way.
Dan Patrick
And.
Todd Seaton
But I appreciate the thought that you had. Even though it's your show and I should be following what you say. It is the Dan Patrick show, and I'm just one of the dead. Ultimately, I'm like, okay, I'll take everyone's advice, and then ultimately I'll make the final decision on how I'm going to go about my business.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Yes, Paulie.
Paulie
Usually in the workplace, when your boss gives you advice, it's an order, not advice. It's just being characterized as advice.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Todd Seaton
I try to hear it as a suggestion, because if I.
Dan Patrick
If I hear it as, like, an.
Todd Seaton
Order, then it's like, then I'm defensive and you're being bossy. And then I got to talk to my wife at dinner about how mean you're being to me, and then it just opens up all that.
Dan Patrick
That's why you're the boss.
Marvin
It's a weird thing when your boss is bossy.
Dan Patrick
You're bossy. Like, that goes along with being a boss, I guess.
Marvin
Like, who do you think you are?
Dan Patrick
The boss? Okay. And as I'm telling you backstage before, you went on to sing two hall and Oats songs with Darius Rucker, I said, just sing one, okay? Leave them wanting more. No, no, no. I think I'm gonna do two. And I go, okay. I went to your wife, and I said, jen, he should just do one song. Well, he's made up his mind. I go, okay, because these People came to see Darius. They don't know who Todd is. He's going to go out there and start singing. And it's not like they're going to go, oh my God, what a cameo. That's awesome.
Todd Seaton
I wasn't going to get discovered and all of a sudden be on American Idol or something or.
Dan Patrick
But I tried. I tried to tell you. And then you sang the first one and I go, just. Just close up shop. Just close up. And then you started singing again.
Todd Seaton
I think it was less about that I thought I was such a great singer, more about like, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. The part of the agreement initially was.
Dan Patrick
Apparently it was twice in a lifetime because you sang two songs and I.
Todd Seaton
Had been really studying up on making sure I wouldn't mess up the words, even though they had the words on a screen in front of me. And when I was going on walks, I'd listen to those two songs over and over again. So I felt like if I put in all this research and efforts, I should sing the two songs because I worked so hard in the weeks leading.
Dan Patrick
Up and even when I was telling you backstage. So one of the guys in the band, the drummer said after you did rehearsal, and I got in touch with him and he said, your boy didn't do very well. And he said he should do one song. And I said, okay.
Todd Seaton
They just got defensive because during rehearsal I suggested, hey, why don't we try it this way, guys? Who's this booker from the damn picture? We've been performing and doing music with Darius for all these years. And this guy's going to. You know when you hit the G string on that, like there with the. You know, when you hit that note, I'm G string.
Paulie
It's the G chord.
Todd Seaton
I think about G strings a lot more than G chords. But I had said something like, why don't I go like when I go. Your kiss is on my. Like when I go on. I'm just trying to tell. I'll go watching you private eye. And then when I hit eyes what you should do, you bring down the. And they didn't want to know from that.
Dan Patrick
And once again, I tried to help you. The band said, you know what? Just one song. And you know, he. It. He can carry a song, a tune. They said, he's just not on on time. And. And that was a problem.
Todd Seaton
I still think it should have been Todd for its featuring Darius Rucker. If you're gonna put it up on my board there.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know. Yes.
Todd Seaton
Marvin in between the two songs, Darius looks over at you.
Dan Patrick
Oh, I know.
Todd Seaton
I pay off my debt.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he. I know. That's where I felt bad for him because he'd lost a bet with the Dolphins. And then Todd got to sing this.
Todd Seaton
The sad thing is, I was hoping at some point in some in my sick mind that they were gonna call me somewhere. They got such a great review from you at Bridgeport. We'd like to see if you'd come out for a few other dates with us.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. They didn't.
Todd Seaton
They did not.
Dan Patrick
They did not wonder why I call.
Todd Seaton
You all the time.
Dan Patrick
What can I say?
Todd Seaton
I don't feel the need to give such secrets away. You think, may I need help?
Dan Patrick
Oh, I know I'm right. All right.
Todd Seaton
I'm just better off not listening to. They need to tune their instruments.
Dan Patrick
They do. Okay. It's not awful. It's just off key. Yeah, but. But once again, you have confidence. Maybe too much confidence. And I stopped giving you advice because it doesn't matter.
Todd Seaton
But if you don't overthink it too much and replay it, you're like, that kind of sounds like Daryl Hall. John Oates.
Dan Patrick
No, it doesn't. No, no.
Todd Seaton
I'm teasing a little bit. I still think in the shower, I exactly like them.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, see, it's Todd.
Marvin
You know what? You've done way worse.
Todd Seaton
I have.
Marvin
You've done way worse. Yeah, you did. There are a few moments there, a little pitchy dog, but, I mean, you're in front of a whole bunch of people playing with a live band. It's incredibly difficult to do. And you did really, really well while making it also hilarious.
Todd Seaton
And the people in the audience. And granted, they were just probably doing it to be nice, but in my mind, they were really into it. They're singing along and they're swaying back and forth, and I'm like, wow, I'm really CR. At these. Every time a light would go by, and I could pick up a few rows while I was nervous, singing with my hands in my pocket. Like, I think they're into my deal here.
Dan Patrick
Yes, Marvin.
Todd Seaton
The smart thing Fritz he did was play songs that people know. It's a good sing along. Kiss on my list, Private eyes. That was a smart thing he did.
Dan Patrick
Let's take a break. Mark Sanchez will join us on the program. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at.
John Middlekoff
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Dan Patrick
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Todd Seaton
Along with my fellow Pro Bowler TJ Hushman, Zada and Super Bowl Champion.
Dan Patrick
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Todd Seaton
You can only name a show with that type of talent on it.
Dan Patrick
Up on Game, we're going to be.
Todd Seaton
Sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments.
Dan Patrick
Listen to Up on game with me, Lavar Arrington, TJ Hinzada and Plexico Burris.
Todd Seaton
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Dan Patrick
Thursday Night Football the Commanders are getting three and a half at the packers over under 48 and a half. We will tape the gambling podcast after the show. Shea and Irving bad Larry and Dylan. We'll have that for you@danpatrick.com More phone calls coming up. Mark Sanchez, he called The Broncos Week 1 win over the Titans. He's got the Seahawks at the Steelers coming up at 1 Eastern Sunday on Fox. Good to see you again. What's the biggest concern from week one, either player or team or coach that you have?
Mark Sanchez
Well, from our game specifically, wait 22nd could be a full six, two and a quarter. 242. Okay, let's see. Broncos game Bonick struggle. He really did and I don't think it's catastrophic. I don't think it's the end of the world for those guys. But he just didn't look as sharp as I thought everybody expected and the defense bailed them out big time. I've been there. I know what that feels like. You know, after you Go to the playoffs, your rookie year, coming back that next year, expectations are just sky high. So we laid an egg. Our first game, my second year got thumped by the Ravens, and it felt like the walls are closing in, sky's falling, everything's horrible. But at least they got the win. So I'd rather him learn those lessons with a W than have to go through all that film and digest all that with a loss. That would have been tough at home. That would have been really tough.
Dan Patrick
Are rookie quarterbacks still making the same mistakes? Whether it was 10 years ago, 15 years ago?
Mark Sanchez
I think so. I think like in our game specifically, you know, Cam Ward, it's a back and forth game, defensive battle, and at one point, I want to say it was like 9 to 6 or 10 to 9 or something like that. And they get this turnover. A total gift on a muff punt. And he takes two sacks, knocks them out of field goal range. They punt, and you lose the points, you lose the momentum, get a chance to go, you know, to go up, take the lead for the first time in the game. And it's stuff like that. Like, I know from the booth it's easy to say, and from here it's easy to say, but if I was coaching those guys, it might be one of those situations where you grab them by the face mask and say, hey, we're inside the 30. We do not end this down or end this drive with anything less than 3 points. I don't care if you catch the ball and throw it in the stands three times. Doesn't matter. We need the points. You know what I mean? And if you can relate that to a young kid, because they're just in the moment, feeling the emotions, feeling. It was interesting talking to Vance Joseph before the game, the defense coordinator for the Broncos. I think he's gonna be a head coach, by the way, pretty soon again. But he just said, I don't want this kid to see the ball go in the hoop. I want to blur the screen with our speed. I want him to feel our rush. I want to bat balls at the line of scrimmage. I just don't want him to get comfortable. I want him to hold it and just create indecision for that long, and we'll do the rest. It's exactly what they did. And in a situation like that, all young quarterbacks, you screw up, you. You try and do too much, you try and get out of trouble, and pretty soon you lose 15 yards. Now we're out of field goal range. So that was a Tough stretch.
Dan Patrick
What did you hear in the pocket when you were back to pass?
Mark Sanchez
It's quiet.
Dan Patrick
But there's noise around you.
Mark Sanchez
But you're blocking that noise. Yeah. You don't. Oh, such a good question. You just get so used to the. The quiet. It's kind of like a. Like a dull roar over the top. The one thing I will say is, what I learned kind of early on is if you're at home and sometimes you get rid of the ball and you throw it, it leaves your hand and you don't see the guy catch it because you get hit. So you're laying on your back staring at the ceiling or the sky, and if you're at home and you hear a big cheer, you can get up slow. If you're at home and you hear, oh, you're like, oh, boy, I gotta make a tackle. And then it flips on the road. You know, if you cut that ball loose and you're staring at the ceiling and the crowd goes nuts, you're like, oh, dude, I gotta go make a tackle.
Dan Patrick
Have you broken down Aaron Rodgers performance against the jets yet?
Mark Sanchez
Whoa, that was impressive. Well, one of the. One of the touchdowns, I mean, he threw four in the stats, right. But one of them was the little, you know, jet sweep out of the gun, where you just flip it to the guy.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Mark Sanchez
So he looked. He looked impressive, man. He had a little bounce in his step. The first touchdown, the roll to the right that he throws, it's essentially a naked. And I mean, that thing was a missile, man. He looked. He looked great. And is that just week one? Is that, you know, full recovery from the Achilles? Is that added juice because it's the jets and he wanted to embarrass them maybe a little everything, but I was. I was thoroughly impressed. He looks good.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I didn't know if he could make that signature roll, right, And. And zip it like he did throughout his career. I thought maybe he's more of a pocket passer, but feels like he came in this way, he's going out this way with, you know, that. That mobility.
Mark Sanchez
And I don't think he's quite as mobile, obviously, as he was, but he's mobile enough to do stuff like that. But, like, in the pocket, he was. You know, Romo doesn't get enough credit for extending plays. Rogers doesn't get enough credit for extending plays because you have guys like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and design quarterback runs, but these guys were like elite athletes at the quarterback position. And the way he could hit his back foot and kind of get that like low lean forward and then just go navigate the pocket and then step up and rifle some down the field. I mean, nobody can do what he does. And it's. I mean, the guy changed his full throwing motion, you know, a few years into his career because his knee was bugging him. And then he started that like, jump throw that Cam Ward and all these kids are doing. Everybody off platform, two feet in the air, launching the ball. You would never, ever teach a kid to do that, ever. It's too hard. It takes too much coordination. It takes too much trunk rotation. It takes too much of the rest of your arm and everything being perfect as you release the ball. It's so hard to do it. And he does it with little effort, it seems.
Dan Patrick
But you have these younger quarterbacks now who they idolized. Matthew Stafford. Yeah, like that.
Mark Sanchez
Well, Matthew's like one of the best pocket passers, number one. But mechanics wise, he's only gotten better his whole career. And he came in solid. Just nice ball carriage, great feet, can throw it off his back foot. Has plenty of juice in his arm. And you know, the stuff to the left, like, he takes the cheat step slightly to the right and drifts just to open enough so he never leaves anything to left inside. And then it goes the other way. Like he's, he's one of the best mechanically and you know, as a competitor, arm strength, all that, he's. He's got it all.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it surprised me because it's almost like younger players look up to Paul George in the NBA. And I go, paul George. And you're like, for a different generation, they looked up to Paul George. And then you get Caleb Williams and CJ Stroud and they're like, man, Matthew Stafford's the man.
Mark Sanchez
And I'm like, he's incredible.
Dan Patrick
He takes a beating.
Mark Sanchez
Well, you drop back that many times, every once in a while, they're gonna, they're gonna get you. But how about my guy Caleb?
Dan Patrick
Man, I don't know. You tell me. I mean, second half.
Mark Sanchez
Yeah, it's. I don't know, it's. It seemed like he reverted to some of those bad habits. And, you know, the, the good plays aren't just good, they're incredible. They're, you know, top ten highlight reel good. And then the bad ones, you're like, how do we miss that throw? You know, how do we, ah, what is it? What are we, what are we missing here? And I mean, you saw his speed when he decided to actually run on one of them. Oh, my God. He's way faster than you think.
Dan Patrick
But can you be objective when you're talking about him? Because, you know, I know, because the ufc. Yeah, yeah.
Mark Sanchez
I mean, listen, I, I got to call it how I see it.
Dan Patrick
And what concerns you then? That, that, I mean, you got the best offensive head coach, you know, play caller. I mean, you got, you got what you need, you got weapons, you got a offensive line that's improved. What's missing here.
Mark Sanchez
A couple of those throws. I mean, you just gotta hit a couple of those throws. I don't know if it's the front foot, so like if you're right handed quarterback, your front left toe, your left big toe, the ball is going to go right off that big toe. Wherever, wherever you point it, that's where the ball's going. So it's natural for right handers on an in breaking route from right to left. So like a slant route on the right handed throwers, right side, breaking to the left to leave the ball to the right behind the guy. Right. It's natural for the guy going the opposite direction to throw it in front of him. He was like all over the place on both. And, you know, a couple of scenarios where guys were open. You know, you saw DJ Moore, the one in the, in the end zone to the left side. So that's kind of like, you know, the little red thing on your mailbox?
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Mark Sanchez
You check the mail? Yeah, the little flag. Yeah, that's like DJ just broke off his route and threw his hand up because nobody was there. That's like, you know, if you're a veteran receiver and you're really. Randy Moss used to do it all the time. He just throw his hand up and then, oh, it's a go ball. All right, red flag. Check the mail and launch it. And it landed 10 yards out of bounds and you're like, oh, man. You know, like those ones, you're just. I don't know if it's just the excitement or, but sometimes the ball just jumps out of his hand and it's, you know, completely out of whack. And then the other ones that are, you know, they got to be perfect. I mean, they're money, you know, and, and it's, it's just an inconsistency right now. And so hopefully it's, you know, first game jitters or something. And, and they correct it because, you know, I'm obviously rooting for him. But yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't his best game. It was inconsistent. He started hot and then it looked like A little bit like last year.
Dan Patrick
He's one of those quarterbacks or players that I would call the red zone player. When you're watching the red zone, they show you highlights, but if you watch the totality of a game, that's when you realize that, Right. He might have had four, you know, great moments. It was all the other ones. So there's certain players. Kyler Murray would be like that. I'm like, damn, he's having a great game. And then all of a sudden you look at his stats and you go, oh, well, he only had three other completions there. Certain guys like that.
Mark Sanchez
Sure.
Dan Patrick
Justin Herbert was on the show prior to the start of the season, and I said, why don't you do kind of what Josh Allen's doing? Why don't you make. Put pressure on defenses by running? Because he. We. We've seen him run in college, the Rose bowl, he was wonderful. And then we started to see. Now, I don't know if this is going to be something that's in the playbook, but he did use his legs in that game against the Chiefs a lot more than I think we've seen before.
Mark Sanchez
Oh, he looked great.
Dan Patrick
He.
Mark Sanchez
I think he's not going to do the run, so. Sorry, my dog's doing that. He's not going to do as many designed runs, but I think when he can extend plays and then you see him get outside when Chris Jones took the inside path and he feels that open edge, the dude's gone. He's got a long stride length. I mean, he looks like a gazelle when he runs and he covers a ton of ground and it looks effortless. It's just, you know, get down, get out of bounds, that kind of deal. But he's. He's better than people give him credit for. You know, I really do think that, and I don't think he's completely realized his potential. I don't think he's played the way that game the other night. They lose that the last three, four years. Yeah, hands down. No doubt about it. And it looked like they were going to lose again. It's like, oh, man, they were close, but here we go. This is kind of. Kind of what we're expecting. And he completely flipped the script and just owned it. And I just. I really think he's. He's one of those special players that. That's just waiting for that opportunity, and he hit the big one. They got three division games out of the. Out of the blocks here. They got the Raiders on Monday night coming up and Then I want to say that I think the Broncos after that.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Mark Sanchez
So that's a grueling schedule. The AFC west is legit. And all those. All those games are a street fight. Everybody wants to run the ball. Harbaugh, Carroll, you know, the Chiefs want to run the ball. Everybody. And it's. That's gonna be a good division. Whoever comes out of there might make.
Dan Patrick
A little noise, but when did we get away from the run? That now we're coming back to the run.
Mark Sanchez
I think. I don't know. It feels like the last five seasons, it's turned into a little bit like seven on seven. And, you know, you gotta throw it 50 times. I feel like, you know, the way defenses have really shifted, other than a couple of. Of coordinators in the league, a lot of teams are adopting that kind of blanket umbrella coverage bend, don't break mentality. We'll throw a couple pressures here and there, some simulated pressures, but we're not going to get caught. And we're going to force you to go 15 plays, you know, convert three, third and fives, third and nines, third and 12. Like, we're going to make you do that. And I guarantee you're going to screw it up before our defense test. You're going to give us a cheap one, somebody's going to fumble, you're going holding, you're either punting or we're taking the ball away. So I feel like once that started to happen and team started to back up a little bit, it's a natural reaction to just turn around, hand the ball to somebody and let them go. You know, pound the defense, force them to bring that guy in the box, and then we'll get creative.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I thought at one point somebody was going to be, we're going to be a run first team. Because defenses were all quick, guys were smaller. And I thought, man, why don't you go, you know, have a counter attack and just say, we're just gonna ram it down your throat because you're not gonna get bigger in the office. You know, we're. We're gonna be built to beat you guys, because everybody was, you know, but the Bengals went all air, air attack here.
Mark Sanchez
I remember going to call a game in Cincy probably two years ago, but, I mean, they throw it more than anybody. And I asked Zach Taylor, I said, hey, are those O linemen ever going to just start a mutiny? And he goes, why? I said, since they got a pass that all came in, I said, are you ever going to hand the rock what's the deal. And he's like, come on. That's just. We got to give it to our best player, number nine. The offense runs through number nine. And I said, hey, Joe Mixon's pretty good, too, you know. Yeah, he can, he can run it. So it was, it was funny just messing with him a little bit.
Dan Patrick
Got to have that change up, man. Mark will be calling the Seahawks at the Steelers 1 Eastern. That'll be on Fox. Great to talk to you again. Hope the family's good. Thanks for joining us, sir. Thank you. Mark Sanchez, he won his first three games his rookie year with the jets and then he lost his next three. And in New York, that's like times three. You know, the three wins. Oh, man, this is our year. The three losses. Oh, no. Yes.
Todd Seaton
Marvin, yesterday we talked about famous quarterbacks. Mark Sanchez was famous.
Dan Patrick
He was GQ magazine rookie year. I know. Yeah, I know. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Last call for phone calls when we learn what's in store tomorrow. I got the updated DraftKings MVP odds. Aaron Judge still a slight favorite over Cal Raleigh, but even though Kyle Schwaber hit his 50th home run of the season, Shohei Otani has a huge and insurmountable lead to win the mvp. Again. Couple of phone calls. No football tonight, but we have football tomorrow Night. We even have a college game. Don't we have a game in the Triad? Sure do.
Todd Seaton
NC State at Wake.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Both undefeated, I believe.
Todd Seaton
Yeah, but Wake beat. Barely got past Kennesaw State 10, 9 in their first game.
Dan Patrick
Kennesaw.
Todd Seaton
Kennesaw.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Todd Seaton
10, 9. That's not good for a first game.
Dan Patrick
Creek in Tampa. Hi, Creek. What's on your mind today?
Marvin
Crick.
Dan Patrick
It's Crick. Well, it was Crick where I grew up, but it's Creek. Hi, Creek.
Caller
Yeah, he can blame my father for that. Thanks for taking my call. I said I'm been retired from the army for a few years. I just want you to know I've been listening to you since I was a young captain and always loved your show. I really appreciate you. And Paulie is by far my favorite. I just love him. And I just want to make a slight comment that why is Princey asking the drummer to drop his G string?
Todd Seaton
Things got pretty intimate during that rehearsal.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Todd Seaton
I'll leave it at that.
Dan Patrick
Apparently. Yeah, you were showing your music knowledge, you know? Is that a G string, or we should. No, it's a G chord. G chord.
Todd Seaton
Come on, guys, play along with me. Queue up your instruments.
Dan Patrick
Marcus in Arizona. Hi, Marcus. What's on your mind today? Hey, Mark.
Caller
Hey, what's going on?
Dan Patrick
No, no, you got to get me off speakerphone.
Todd Seaton
He might be calling from a well.
Caller
Damn it. Hello? Can y' all hear me?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I got you, Marcus. Come on, you're better than that.
Caller
Yeah, my fault, my fault. How you doing, Dan?
Dan Patrick
Good, good.
Caller
What's on your mind real quick? So while I'm doing you guys a disfavor for this prince, I gotta say, brother man, you sound really good, bro. I really gotta tell you.
Dan Patrick
I mean. Wait, what do you know? What are you doing right now? Are you washing dishes or what? What are we doing?
Caller
No, I'm taking my kids. I'm getting ready.
Dan Patrick
Well, take your kid to school. Don't worry about compliments. That's why I. The audio isn't great. Todd, maybe Marcus, on another day, can compliment you. He said you sounded good.
Todd Seaton
And then once you heard something positive like, we got to get rid of this guy.
Dan Patrick
Well, a guy who didn't know how to, you know, fix his own audio is talking about how good your audio is. I can't trust him.
Todd Seaton
All right, fair enough.
Dan Patrick
All right, Dan and Eugene. Hi, Dan. What's on your mind?
Caller
Hey, thanks for taking my call. 510-170-Been listening to you since pre Rob Dibble days, but first time caller so my wife and I are from Eugene, Oregon, and we leave tomorrow for the East Coast. We're headed up to Bridgeport for a couple of shows at the Amphitheater and looking for a recommendation for a cool place in Milford to get a bite, some beers and watch the Ducks in Northwestern on Fox for the big noon kickoff.
Dan Patrick
What are the shows you're seeing in Bridgeport?
Caller
We're gonna see two nights of the Tadeshi Trucks with Steve Winwood.
Dan Patrick
Oh, alrighty. Got some real musicians there. If you would. If you want to go to New Haven for pizza, I'm a Sally's person. Modern pizza is great as well. There's a. A sneaky good restaurant called Zanelli's in New Haven, and I would recommend that if you want ice cream. Walnut Beach Creamery in Milford, they serve great ice cream. I can vouch for it. And I've slept with the owner. Whoa. Yeah, I have.
Paulie
Multiple times.
Dan Patrick
Yes, yes, yes. Just saying. I've slept with her.
Paulie
Give some context.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's my wife.
Todd Seaton
Cover your back.
Dan Patrick
Todd all of a sudden is like, what?
Todd Seaton
That was very funny though.
Dan Patrick
Thank you.
Todd Seaton
It's accurate.
Dan Patrick
But you didn't laugh.
Todd Seaton
I didn't laugh. I laughed on the inside. Like what some people do for free ice cream. I know, but inappropriate almost.
Dan Patrick
I know, but I don't like when somebody says that's funny, but they don't laugh.
Todd Seaton
That's what my wife does all the time to me. That's funny.
Dan Patrick
But they don't laugh.
Todd Seaton
Yeah. So it doesn't count. It's supposed to be a knee jerk reaction. It's a spontaneous thing. You can't control laughter. Genuinely funny. You can't control it.
Dan Patrick
Seaton's been working on an imitation of your LA laugh.
Todd Seaton
Of my laugh?
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Marvin
As far the one where like, Todd's saying something, he's really going.
Dan Patrick
He kind of explains what happens and.
Marvin
He'S got a laugh at the volleys.
Dan Patrick
I don't know what happened there.
Todd Seaton
Frank Caliento did that for me recently, which it wasn't very flattering.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah. He was studying you, Paul. This day in sports history.
Paulie
Just a couple. Gail sayers retired in 1972 from the NFL after a really nice comeback. Lou Brock set another steals record with 105 steals in a season in 1974. And Roger Federer in 2006 won his third straight US Open.
Dan Patrick
Wow. 1989. On this date, five days after hitting a home run for the Yankees in a win against the Mariners, Deion Sanders returns upon 68 yards for a touchdown. If Dion was. Now, would Dion be better than Travis Hunter? Would he be used like him? He'd be playing both. Both ways. He'd be cornerback and wide receiver. Because it feels like that. Feels like it'd be like. Let me show you how it's done. All right, let me see. I can't get any more phone calls in here. Don't have enough time. Final results of the poll question. Seaton.
Marvin
Yeah, we got a couple of them up there right now. Where does South Florida belong in the top 25?
Dan Patrick
What a. What a bizarre show today.
Marvin
Unfortunately, the top 10 has dropped down to or below 9%.
Dan Patrick
Okay, okay.
Marvin
That's unfortunate. And then we had another random one. I'd rather hit 60 home runs or 400.
Dan Patrick
Maybe we discuss that tomorrow when Maybe we have a little more time tomorrow. Todd, what'd you learn today?
Todd Seaton
Understandably, we spent time today talking South Florida and Rutgers football and remembering the late comedian Gallagher.
Dan Patrick
Seaton, what did you learn?
Marvin
According to social media, we learned how Todd carries a tune. It's with a G string.
Dan Patrick
The G string. Marvin.
Todd Seaton
Wheel of Punishment has a theme song.
Dan Patrick
Paul.
Paulie
I learned a lot about South Florida.
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This episode blends the Danettes’ signature humor and sports insight with a nostalgic, behind-the-scenes look at their infamous “Wheel of Punishment,” before welcoming NFL analyst and former quarterback Mark Sanchez for an in-depth conversation about early NFL season struggles, quarterback development, and the evolving game.
[02:08–18:21]
Dan and the Danettes reminisce about their notorious on-air segment, the “Wheel of Punishment.” They explore how this bit started, some of the wildest punishments, debates about HR-appropriateness, and attempts to transform it into something more palatable for management.
Thursday Night Football’s Past & Present:
Origin and Demise of the Wheel:
Attempts to Rebrand:
Most Infamous Punishments:
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The discussion shifts to the show’s quirky workplace dynamic, focusing on Todd “Fritzie” Seaton’s endearing refusal to take advice or discouragement.
Todd’s Resilience and Self-awareness:
Bosses, Boundaries, and Bad Ideas:
[22:48–39:41]
Broncos’ Week 1 & Bo Nix Evaluation:
Rookie Mistakes Never Change:
The QB Experience:
Rodgers’ Jets Performance:
Matthew Stafford as an Idol:
Caleb Williams & Inconsistency:
Justin Herbert and QB Mobility:
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Summary:
This episode offers a quintessential blend of sports analysis and backstage hilarity. The Dan Patrick Show crew takes listeners through the crazy legacy of the “Wheel of Punishment” and its borderline HR violations, providing candid glimpses into the show’s culture. Mark Sanchez then elevates the conversation with deep-dive quarterback talk and the state of the NFL’s offensive evolution, closing things out with Dan and the Danettes’ laughs, listener connections, and daily sports housekeeping. Even fans new to the show will walk away with a strong sense of camaraderie, irreverence, and genuine sports insight.