The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 3: Worst Offenses, Reggie Miller
Date: November 18, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Reggie Miller
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Episode Overview
In this dynamic third hour, Dan Patrick and the Danettes delve into timely NFL controversies, quarterback conundrums, and the concept of "messy" franchises. Later, NBA Hall of Famer Reggie Miller joins for a wide-ranging conversation about player injuries, the evolution of the game, and the eternal debate about the NBA’s top 10 all-time players. The hour delivers a lively blend of sports analysis, humor, and insider stories.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
NFL Hot Topics & "Messiest" Teams
- Jamar Chase Suspension:
- The hosts discuss the swift NFL suspension and fine ($500K+) for Jamar Chase after spitting during a game, delving into questions of process and fairness (05:38).
- Notable skepticism about the appeal process – pointing out that Chase will appeal to the same committee that issued the punishment.
- Dan Patrick: “Shouldn’t you have somebody hear the appeal who didn’t hand out the punishment in the first place?” (07:02)
- They muse on how dumb fines sting even for wealthy athletes.
- "Messy" NFL Franchises:
- The Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Raiders, and Saints are all nominated as the league's "messiest" teams (09:53).
- Higher expectations make messiness feel worse (“That makes it messier, because you do have talent…” – Dan Patrick, 10:57)
- Quarterback Quandaries:
- Falcons’ QB situation: Why draft Michael Penix Jr. after signing Kirk Cousins? Is there an upside to having both? (11:13)
- Rams may be ideally positioned for the future, with Stafford aging and two first-round picks (14:41).
- Draft & Team-Building Philosophy:
- The value of linemen and evaluating QBs in a league often desperate for a "franchise guy" versus "just a quarterback" (15:14, 16:15).
NBA Talk with Reggie Miller
Starts at 22:44
- Spurs-Grizzlies Matchup Without Stars:
- Reggie tries to hype a game missing both Victor Wembanyama and Ja Morant, spotlighting other players (23:03).
- “I’m trying everything here… we’re gonna throw everything and see what sticks.” – Reggie Miller, 23:03
- Concerns Over Big Men & Injuries:
- Dan raises fears about Wembanyama’s future given his injuries (blood clot, calf strain).
- Reggie emphasizes NBA teams’ increased caution with injury management:
- “You want to miss two weeks or potentially miss 12 months… all these players are going to err on the side of caution here” (24:10)
- Shooting Over Wembanyama:
- The challenge of playing against someone with a 10ft wingspan; referencing Steph Curry’s “AI-like” three-pointer over him (25:53).
- Reggie attributes Curry’s shooting to muscle memory and past Olympic play (26:29).
Sportsmanship and Player Behavior
- Discussing spitting incidents across sports (Jamar Chase in NFL, rarely in NBA):
- Reggie: “There’s no excuse for that... if it was on purpose, he’s lucky he only got one game” (27:35).
- Accidental spit is more common, especially during trash talk (28:07).
- Draymond Green vs. the “Angel Reese” heckle:
- Reggie says the heckler was an “elite troll” who stayed within bounds, and Draymond should have had a sense of humor about it (28:57-29:51).
Injuries & Building Around NBA Stars
- Would You Build Around Ja Morant or Zion Williamson?
- Both are seen as too injury-prone to build a team around:
- “They are a highlight reel... but they’re also one play away from being out three to four weeks or even a season. I cannot trust that.” – Reggie Miller, 30:13
- Both are seen as too injury-prone to build a team around:
The Great NBA Top 10 Debate
- Is Steph Curry a Top-10 All-Time Player?
- Dan and Reggie debate placing modern stars like Steph Curry and Kevin Durant among the all-time greats (36:27).
- Reggie: “I would probably put Steph in the top 10 before KD... but who do you take out?” (37:35)
- They discuss criteria: impact on the game (e.g., Curry’s global influence as greatest shooter), hardware (rings, MVPs), skill, and positional dominance.
- Reggie resists removing dynasty-defining players (Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson), even suggesting that Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell may not be in his top 10 by modern standards (39:21–41:58).
Additional NBA Nuggets
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Shoe Stories:
- Reggie on early shoe deals and comfort woes; even with major brands, injuries like plantar fasciitis are common (31:19-32:14).
- He once wore Air Jordans specifically to annoy Michael Jordan in direct matchups (32:18).
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Feel-Good Stories of the NBA Season:
- Detroit Pistons’ winning streak.
- Lakers’ resilience without LeBron and Austin Reaves' breakout performances (33:40-35:14).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 07:02 | Dan Patrick | “Shouldn’t you have somebody hear the appeal who didn’t hand out the punishment in the first place?” | | 10:57 | Dan Patrick | "That makes it messier. Because you do have talent... you're relevant because you're bad with this talent and you should be a lot better." | | 24:10 | Reggie Miller | “You want to miss two weeks or potentially miss 12 months… all these players are going to err on the side of caution here with these calf issues." | | 28:57 | Reggie Miller | “That was some elite trolling by that fan… he didn’t cross the line in my point.” | | 30:13 | Reggie Miller | “They are a highlight reel in the making… but they’re also one play away from being out three to four weeks or even a season. I cannot trust that.” | | 37:35 | Reggie Miller | “I would probably put Steph in the top 10 before KD… but who do you take out?” | | 41:42 | Dr. Jesse Mills| “Bill Russell probably wouldn’t be in my top 10. Or Wilt. I don’t know if Wilt would be in my top 10. Shaq would be in my top 10.” | | 32:18 | Reggie Miller | “I wore Jordans just to piss [Jordan] off, because no one was supposed to be wearing Jordan brands other than Michael Jordan or his teammates…” |
Timestamps for Major Segments
- NFL Messy Teams & Jamar Chase Discussion: 05:19 – 10:57
- Quarterback Draft/Dynasty Talk: 11:13 – 17:00
- NBA Segment Begins / Reggie Miller Joins: 22:44
- Wembanyama Injury Discussion: 23:29 – 25:53
- On Spitting & Sportsmanship: 27:28 – 28:44
- Draymond Green Fan Incident: 28:57 – 29:56
- Future of Morant & Zion: 30:03 – 31:01
- NBA Top 10 All-Time Debate: 36:27 – 41:58
Concluding Thoughts
This episode offers a sharp blend of locker room banter, hard sports analysis, and nostalgic reflection. Dan and Reggie’s passionate NBA discussion is particularly engaging for fans interested in the evolving storylines and historical rankings. Those seeking inside-the-locker-room NBA insights or the freshest takes on NFL chaos will find this hour essential listening.