Dan Patrick (3:31)

He was sitting on that one for like an hour.

Tomer Cohen (3:32)

Thank you. Since Wednesday, except earlier this morning. Poll question for hour two. I'll get some headlines in here as well. Satan.

Seaton (3:40)

Yeah, we got up there right now. Who is closer to a ring? Your options are the Heat, Warriors, Lakers, Spurs, Mavs. Right now. Mavs running away with that one. Actually, I've got about 38% of the vote followed by Spurs, Lakers, Warriors, Heat or have about 2% of that boat.

Tomer Cohen (3:58)

That's tough. Yeah, the Heat shouldn't be on the list. That's tough. The Spurs, I like the future, but they shouldn't be the second option there. I like what they're doing, but they shouldn't be the second option. I would have the Lakers in there. Then I would have Golden State. Yes.

Seaton (4:11)

Yeah, the Lakers for a team, what are they in, like fifth right now? They feel kind of far down that list. Is that just because people don't like them?

Tomer Cohen (4:19)

Oh, I. Yeah, I mean, they're definitely polarizing.

Robert Griffin III (4:21)

Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (4:22)

I don't think people want, you know, outside of Los Angeles, want LeBron to get another title. I don't think that that's. And certainly the people in Dallas don't want the Lakers to get another title with Luka going there. All right, so there were some moves made. Jimmy Butler finally move to the warriors and its last call for a championship there. Pelicans trade Brandon Ingram to the Raptors. Lakers trade Dalton connect to Charlotte for Mark Williams. And I do like the move of the Lakers. This is a legitimate big man. And the report was Luka wanted somebody that he could throw lobs to. And you got Mark Williams, who does have some good numbers once again when he's on the court, when he plays. NFL will play in Australia. The Rams will be one of those teams. We don't know the other one. The NFL Players association, they said that they are not in favor of 18 games. Okay. The NFL will be playing 18 games eventually. This isn't now. This is where I would ask the NFL Players Association. So you say under no circumstances will you go to 18 games. Wait for your answer. And I know your answer is going to be you're going to get what you can get. And all this is is negotiations. That's all. But the NFL Players association said they're against 18 game season, but I'm going to guess they'll probably cave in a little bit there. Email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, download the app. If you haven't done so, we make way for a friend of the show. He is Robert Griffin III, or as Mullah McLovin used to say, Robert Griffith Jr III, the former rookie of the year Heisman Trophy winner and his great podcast out of pocket with RG3 on YouTube. Wherever you get your podcast, RG3 is back in. You know, if you're watching on Peacock, if you win a Heisman, you can wear an outfit like that.

Robert Griffin III (6:20)

Yes, that is. That is a prerequisite. You have to win the Heisman before you can throw this on. But how's everybody doing today?

Tomer Cohen (6:25)

Everything's good. So tattoo on the leg?

Robert Griffin III (6:28)

Yes, tattoo on the leg. I got a big Goku right here. So for all my anime fans, Dragon Ball Z, we're going Super Saiyan on them. So I got to make sure I have it showing off. Not everybody gets to see my tattoos, Dan, so.

Tomer Cohen (6:41)

Well, if you got legs like that, I would wear shorts, too. Just saying.

Robert Griffin III (6:45)

That's what my wife says. So I'm happy about that.

Tomer Cohen (6:47)

Yeah. Are you gonna go?

Robert Griffin III (6:48)

She loves when I wear shorts. He's like, man, you got to wear shorts more often. Like, you're right.

Tomer Cohen (6:51)

Are you going full body tattooed?

Robert Griffin III (6:54)

Yeah, I have a full left side of my body is tattooed. So I got an arm sleeve here with a griffin, a tiger, Japanese house because I was born in Japan. Then I got my family here with lions and my leg is mostly anime and my favorite superheroes, so I got the Incredible Hulk Right here on my thigh. I got the Ninja Turtles on the inside.

Tomer Cohen (7:15)

Easy there.

Robert Griffin III (7:15)

And, yeah, you can't see that. I got the Black Panther on the hamstring right here.

Tomer Cohen (7:21)

Yeah, I don't need to see your Turtles.

Robert Griffin III (7:23)

I can't see it either, so it hurt bad, and I don't know why I got it, but I love the Black Panther, so the Black Panther's on my hamstring.

Tomer Cohen (7:29)

Okay.

Robert Griffin III (7:31)

You try to show his Black Panther.

Tomer Cohen (7:33)

Whoa, whoa.

Robert Griffin III (7:35)

Only you can make that joke.

Tomer Cohen (7:41)

I don't know. Have you seen Marvin's hands? We did. Hand size. We had a combine. Hand size. Everybody was, like, had to have their hands measured. Marvin had the smallest hand size there.

Robert Griffin III (7:55)

You know what? Talking about hands. Yeah. If you ever see Giro, offensive coordinator for the Chargers.

Tomer Cohen (8:01)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (8:02)

He has the biggest sausage fingers I've ever seen in my life. Once you see them, you can't unsee them. Okay. So when he's pointing on the board, I'm like, yo, what is that? Sorry, Giro. Love you, buddy.

Tomer Cohen (8:16)

Does it. Does hand size really matter playing quarterback?

Robert Griffin III (8:20)

Does it matter? I mean, I think it's something fun to. To pick at, like, no pun intended, but Kenny Pickett.

Tomer Cohen (8:27)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (8:27)

Has smaller hands. He wears the gloves. I don't think it matters, personally. I think you. When we start talking about it, you can get into a quarterback's head. I had Kenny Pickett on the show out of pocket, and he was talking about how during the draft process, he was actually doing exercise, extra stretching and exercises to help his hands grow. And he thinks they, you know, they grew, like, I don't know, centimeter or something. So us talking about it definitely gets in the heads of quarterbacks, but I don't think it matters.

Tomer Cohen (8:54)

Paulie, you got combine numbers for RG3?

Dan Patrick (8:57)

I sure do. Hand size. I got you at nine and a half at the combine.

Robert Griffin III (9:00)

What is that normally? That.

Dan Patrick (9:02)

That's middle to low.

Robert Griffin III (9:04)

Okay.

Dan Patrick (9:04)

No offense. 40 yard dash. I have you 441-439.

Robert Griffin III (9:08)

Yep. That's what good is that.

Dan Patrick (9:10)

You were in the 98th percentile of that draft.

Tomer Cohen (9:12)

Pretty good, though, as a quarterback.

Dan Patrick (9:15)

Could have gone backwards.

Robert Griffin III (9:16)

So if you have, you know, good sized hands but not, like, overly large hands, and you got to be fast.

Tomer Cohen (9:22)

Yeah. So what else?

Robert Griffin III (9:24)

It sounds like you were the number.

Dan Patrick (9:25)

One in vertical jump. You're the number one in broad jump.

Robert Griffin III (9:28)

Okay.

Dan Patrick (9:29)

Of the quarterbacks in that draft, did.

Tomer Cohen (9:31)

You ever win a slam dunk contest?

Robert Griffin III (9:32)

I did.

Tomer Cohen (9:33)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (9:33)

I did. Yeah. I think My vertical is 39 and a half. And I asked him if I could do it again just to get to four more job. Please. Just one more.

Tomer Cohen (9:41)

But 40 is a big deal.

Robert Griffin III (9:43)

40. The 40 was fun.

Tomer Cohen (9:44)

That'll separate. No, the 40.

Robert Griffin III (9:46)

40 inch vertical.

Tomer Cohen (9:47)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (9:48)

You know, you want to be up there with Jordan, those guys, and, well.

Tomer Cohen (9:50)

Your vertical's got to be better than Jordan's.

Robert Griffin III (9:53)

Yeah, well, see, that's what. It all depends on how.

Tomer Cohen (9:56)

But you think Mike's is 40 or more?

Robert Griffin III (9:59)

Oh, Mike's is like. I think his vertical is, like, 45. Michael Jordan's vertical was crazy.

Tomer Cohen (10:05)

Oh, Michael B. Jordan.

Robert Griffin III (10:07)

Oh, Michael B. Jordan.

Steve Covino (10:09)

Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (10:11)

Are you.

Robert Griffin III (10:11)

I think we could do that for charity. Let's do a charity jump off between myself and Creed, and we'll make it happen.

Tomer Cohen (10:18)

But, you know, when you see Tyreek Hill and he wants to compete, go against, you know, Noah. Ly. Like, there's different, though, in that, right?

Robert Griffin III (10:26)

Yeah. I mean, football speed, track speed different. Completely different. And I believe that if Tyreek was to race Noah Lyles in a. In a 50 or a 40, he has a much better chance at winning because Noah's a. A builder, like, he. He builds his race all the way to the end. Because when you run the 100, it doesn't really matter how f get to the 40 or the 50. It's how long you can hold that speed and accelerate through. So I think it'll be a closer race than people anticipate, but I just. I don't think that Tyreek can beat. Can beat Noah, and I like Tyreek.

Tomer Cohen (10:58)

Okay, but if Noah wore a football uniform.

Robert Griffin III (11:01)

Yes.

Tomer Cohen (11:02)

On a football field.

Robert Griffin III (11:03)

Correct.

Tomer Cohen (11:04)

Who would you take in a 60?

Robert Griffin III (11:05)

In a. Oh, yeah. I mean, in a 60 in a football uniform, I'm probably still taking Noah. But the question with the track athletes is, can they catch? People say, can they get hit? I think they can get hit. That's not a problem. I'm good friends with Justin Gatlin. You know, he tried out for the NFL, and the number one thing was running full speed. And catching a football is different than just running full speed with your hands like this, you know, so that.

Tomer Cohen (11:30)

That.

Robert Griffin III (11:31)

That, to me, is. Is the big difference.

Tomer Cohen (11:33)

Could Usain Bolt have played if he was brought up to play one?

Robert Griffin III (11:38)

1,000%. I mean, what. Usain's like six, five. You know, you're thinking like Megatron type of athlete when it comes to him. He has come out and said that he did not want to get hit, so that's why he wouldn't have played. But if he grew up in Copper's Cove, Texas, with me, you better believe he's playing football.

Tomer Cohen (11:56)

He's RG3. His out of pocket with RG3. On YouTube, wherever you get your podcast, you came up with a way for the Eagles to beat the Chiefs?

Robert Griffin III (12:05)

Yes.

Tomer Cohen (12:06)

And you have a way for the Chiefs to beat the Eagles?

Robert Griffin III (12:09)

Correct.

Tomer Cohen (12:09)

Okay, which one do you want to start with? Let's start. Eagles to upset the Chiefs.

Robert Griffin III (12:16)

Okay.

Tomer Cohen (12:16)

All right. So what happens on Sunday?

Robert Griffin III (12:18)

Yeah, I mean, it's a dominant running game. If you look at the numbers, which I know we have some. Some. Some numbers people out there. Anytime the Chiefs have gone against a quarterback that ran for more than 500 yards this year, they've given up 145 rushing yards per game to that team.

Tomer Cohen (12:34)

Okay.

Robert Griffin III (12:35)

And the Eagles. I. It's better for me to describe it. On why the Eagles are so successful versus why the Chiefs are so successful. The Eagles have the. The big names. The guys like, you know, Saquon Barkley, you know A.J. brown, you know Devonte Smith, you know Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard's got to go off because the. The Chiefs gave up the second amount of receptions and the most yards to tight ends in the NFL this past season. But you know how to key in on those guys. And yeah, you got to be stout up front. You got to control the edges. With the Chiefs, it's different because you don't know who's getting the ball. And. And it's no longer. Travis Kelsey has to have 100 yards receiving and 10 catches for them to win the game. So they got Hollywood Brown, they got Xavier worthy, they got Juju Smith shoes, they got DeAndre Hopkins, they have Travis Kelsey, they got Noah Gray. You just don't know how they're going to attack you in that way. And, oh, yeah, I didn't even mention the main guy, Patrick Mahomes, who's calling the shots. So it's almost like going to a basketball game at a tournament and one team has all five star players. You know what those guys are going to do? The other team is coming in there, they're doing bounce passes with the thumbs down, right? They're dribble, penetrating to the right, cutting back, and then throwing the bounce pass across the paint to get the easy layup. That's what the Chiefs are doing right now. They're playing nameless, faceless football. Whereas the Eagles, they. They have to get the ball to A.J. brown because if they don't, they're not going to win. But we've seen the Chiefs win with Travis Kelsey having two catches for. For nine yards. So I think that that's the, the issue on, on offense for, for both teams. But I, I'll pick, I'll pick the game already. I think, I think the Chiefs win. I want to see greatness. I want to see history made. And I just think that Patrick Mahomes is playing so unselfishly and being so patient right now. They're very hard to stop.

Tomer Cohen (14:27)

Which team is more likely to have a blowout that they can blow the other team out?

Robert Griffin III (14:31)

Eagles. For the exact reason I said. They got the five star players. They got the best roster in all of football. Number one scoring defense, number one total defense. And that brings me to like my most exciting part of the game is this inverted wishbone formation that the Chiefs run. Because you'll see it, they run with the two tight ends on the side of the homes and they got the running back right, right behind them and they'll motion the tight end, put them both on the same side and do a bunch of stuff. They run wide zone, inside zone, dive play action, pass, jet sweeps. They even put Kelsey at quarterback and had him read out like a quarterback counter downhill with Xavier Worthy, who scored a touchdown on that play during the playoffs. The, the cuter you allow Andy Reid to be, the harder your day is going to be. So if the Eagles can see that formation and shut it down quickly, I think it kind of slows Andy Reid down because he knows he doesn't have all the tricks in his bag anymore.

Tomer Cohen (15:27)

What does Mahomes have to accomplish to surpass Tom Brady?

Robert Griffin III (15:31)

When.

Tomer Cohen (15:33)

So it's going to be the number of Super Bowls.

Robert Griffin III (15:35)

No, he's got to win. He's got to win on. He's got to win on Sunday.

Tomer Cohen (15:37)

That's it.

Robert Griffin III (15:38)

That's it.

Tomer Cohen (15:38)

He's past Brady if he wins on Sunday.

Robert Griffin III (15:40)

He's passed Brady if he wins on Sunday. Yeah, and, and I've been saying this since they won the last super bowl. So I, I think there's this guy, espn, like really popular guy, espn, and he's been like, he's been like on this, going on this rave about if Mahomes wins, he's greater than Brady. And I'm like, bro, I was on that network.

Tomer Cohen (15:55)

Wait, who is this? Dan Orlovsky?

Robert Griffin III (15:57)

No, no, no, no.

Tomer Cohen (15:57)

That.

Robert Griffin III (15:58)

Not that guy.

Tomer Cohen (15:59)

What? Not that guy.

Robert Griffin III (16:01)

No, we're definitely not talking about that guy. Talking about Stephen A. Smith and he's.

Tomer Cohen (16:06)

Not a football guy.

Bryce Young (16:07)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (16:08)

But you know, I don't want to, like, no one's takes are their takes, per se, but if someone's been saying it since last February that if Mahomes wins in 3p.

Tomer Cohen (16:17)

Well, maybe he heard that you said it.

Robert Griffin III (16:19)

Maybe he did. I don't know. Did you hear it, Stephen?

Tomer Cohen (16:21)

They wouldn't co op anything on their first.

Seaton (16:27)

Why are Mahomes his four Super Bowls.

Robert Griffin III (16:31)

Yep.

Seaton (16:31)

Would be more valuable than Brady's seven.

Robert Griffin III (16:34)

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you guys have heard this argument before, but it's the whole Michael Jordan, Bill Russell situation. But I think it's not even the four because you can have recency bias and say, oh, well, he's won them more recently than Brady. So we're just going to say he's the greatest because we want to have something to talk about. I don't think that's what it is. I think the fact that he'd be the first quarterback to three peat, I think that makes it to where. All right, these four are greater than the seven because he's done something that's never been done. And why do we say Brady's the goat? Because he's done something that's never been done before. So if you can do something that even Brady couldn't accomplish that to me in seven years. Four and seven years with a three peat. Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (17:17)

That.

Robert Griffin III (17:17)

That makes you the goat. You're the greatest of all time. He's already the most talented we've ever seen. And so what you're saying is if.

Tomer Cohen (17:25)

A star player wins four consecutive NBA championships, he's better than Michael Jordan? Because that had never happened before.

Robert Griffin III (17:33)

I don't know about.

Tomer Cohen (17:35)

Well, wait a minute. I'm just going by what you're saying has.

Robert Griffin III (17:39)

That. That has never happened, right?

Tomer Cohen (17:40)

No.

Robert Griffin III (17:41)

4 and 4 and 7 years.

Tomer Cohen (17:43)

Let's say somebody, a star player.

Robert Griffin III (17:46)

You know What? I'm standing 10 toes down on it. I would say yeah.

Tomer Cohen (17:48)

Okay.

Robert Griffin III (17:49)

If a star player was able to win four championships in a row. Four. Do a four pe.

Tomer Cohen (17:53)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (17:54)

In seven years in the NBA.

Tomer Cohen (17:55)

Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (17:56)

Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (17:56)

That be better than Jordan.

Robert Griffin III (17:58)

I'd say they'd be better than Jordan because unless they fall off the face of the earth, we know they're probably going to have another opportunity to get another one or at least play for a long time. Brady had what, 10 years between. Between Super Bowls, but he's had three.

Tomer Cohen (18:10)

Hall of Fame careers. Oh, he has? Yeah.

Robert Griffin III (18:12)

No, no, no, no.

Tomer Cohen (18:13)

See, that's the thing that you have to have sustainability for greatness.

Robert Griffin III (18:16)

I'm with you. If, if Patrick Mahomes wins, if they win the super bowl and then he.

Tomer Cohen (18:20)

Decides I'm retiring, he's going to go play baseball.

Robert Griffin III (18:24)

I. Right. I probably feel differently, but I don't think he's going anywhere. And you know, knowing him and his trainer, Bobby Stroop, like they're prepared to play just as long as Brady did. And I just, I think he's just creating a generation of quarterbacks that are not going to win Super Bowls.

Tomer Cohen (18:40)

I think he plays the position better than Tom does.

Robert Griffin III (18:43)

Okay.

Tomer Cohen (18:44)

He's not a better quarterback than Tom yet.

Robert Griffin III (18:46)

Okay.

Tomer Cohen (18:46)

It'd be like Mike was a better basketball player, you know, talent wise than LeBron. LeBron's got a better resume than Mike. But see, that's the, and they're similar Brady and you know, we might look at Brady and LeBron the way we do Mike and Patrick.

Robert Griffin III (19:00)

He's kind of proving my point. But you, because I, because I agree, I agree with you.

Tomer Cohen (19:04)

You want to take that and then you want to. Or you're going to give me credit.

Robert Griffin III (19:07)

I'm an. I will give you credit. We're looking at someone give credit for your take, Stephanie. Give credit for your takes. It is documented. It's on Twitter. It's everywhere. It's, it's how you might tweet it out today. I don't know.

Tomer Cohen (19:20)

RG3. It's, it's how you say it, though, Stephen A. Says it in a way that you.

Robert Griffin III (19:25)

Think that it's dramatic. Oh, I got you.

Tomer Cohen (19:28)

Patrick Mahomes is going to be, if he's not already the best player.

Seaton (19:35)

Tom Brady never won in three.

Robert Griffin III (19:39)

He sounded like a preacher on Sunday right there.

Tomer Cohen (19:43)

And the good Lord said foreign setting. Check out out of pocket with RG3 on YouTube. Wherever you get your podcast, always great to have you on you. Always. You bring it every single time. And good luck with your podcast. Thanks for joining us.

Robert Griffin III (19:57)

Appreciate you, brother.

Tomer Cohen (19:58)

RG3 joining us. We'll talk to Bryce Young. Coming up here in a moment, FOX Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Steve Covino.

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Tomer Cohen (20:42)

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Tomer Cohen (23:08)

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

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It's extremely pink.

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Tomer Cohen (25:51)

Coming up. We're playing A game, I'm told it's called the super bowl downside game. Paulie is your host. Would you tell me what the rules are? The super bowl downside game.

Dan Patrick (26:01)

We're skewing negative on Thursday, Dan. Shocker for us. But the person, coach or player or other, I guess, who, if they had a really bad day on Sunday, it would stick with them the longest or had the most fallout.

Tomer Cohen (26:13)

Oh, so these super bowl downside games. Yeah. All of our in studio guests receive a fantastic gift bag, items from Sonos, Traeger, Panini, Kings, Hawaiian and Rapid Radios. He's the Carolina Panthers quarterback, won a national championship at Alabama, won a Heisman. And he's joining us on behalf of Young Nine Foundation. He is Bryce Young of the Carolina Panthers. Look at that big introduction there. Big walkout. This is how we do it at a big TV production there, Bryce. This is what it's all about. Thanks for joining us here.

Bryce Young (26:52)

Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

Tomer Cohen (26:54)

What advice would you give you 12.

Bryce Young (26:57)

Months ago, just, just to be consistent. Obviously, a lot of ups and downs this year was a. Was a different road, different path, different journey for me. But be consistent on the field, off the field. Be consistent my habits and beliefs and just trust the process.

Tomer Cohen (27:15)

But a lot of people bailed on you, like you were too short in September this season, and then all of a sudden you seem to get taller in November. Like, like you didn't get taller, did you?

Bryce Young (27:26)

I did not get taller.

Tomer Cohen (27:27)

Okay. But people were bailing on you. And what was that feeling like that, you know, they didn't think you could be a starting quarterback, to be honest with you.

Bryce Young (27:37)

I'm not someone who's super tapped into all the narratives, all the things going on. I try to control it. I can control, Focus on that. So.

Tomer Cohen (27:44)

But family members.

Robert Griffin III (27:46)

Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (27:47)

Might say something. Your buddies might say, man, this guy killing you.

Bryce Young (27:51)

I was blessed to have a. I'm blessed to have really good support system, good family. So I at least didn't get it to my face. But for me, again, it was just trying to. Trying to be consistent, no matter. That's. I think that's kind of life, especially in this profession. You're, you know, people view you here one day over you lower the next day. It comes with the territory. So it's not really something. I put a lot of stock in how I'm perceived or looked at. I just try to focus on the football.

Tomer Cohen (28:16)

I don't want to call it your benching week, but you're. I'll call it a Bye week for you. Like you. Okay, let's make it positive here. Okay, so it was a bye week. What did you learn watching?

Bryce Young (28:28)

Yeah, I really. I just tried to play the game from the sideline at that point, you know, it's different, obviously.

Tomer Cohen (28:33)

So you wear a headset.

Bryce Young (28:35)

Yeah, yeah. Where he said, hear the calls still locked in all week. So it's different than being back there. But I just tried to look at, you know, still play the game, still try to put myself through it, think what I'd be doing. And thinking that scenario, you get a little bit different viewing perspective. But I still try to get as much out of it as I could.

Tomer Cohen (28:55)

We thought it was a good week just because sometimes you need to, you know, kind of see things. And if you know, somebody who's in there for you can tell you these things or you can see it in a different way, hear it in a different way, it just seems like it. It changed you a little bit there or. I don't. I mean, we saw the results on the field, but I don't know what happened. Where it clicked. You saw the game differently, did the game slow down? Quarterbacks talk about all of those things.

Bryce Young (29:21)

Yeah, I think it was just great being able to have some time in the system. You know, it wasn't. Obviously, you don't get the same amount of reps, you don't get the same kind of sort of progress on the bench, but being able to come back in and just have more time with the system, you know, obviously, new staff this year. You know, we had to. Didn't have a lot of time at first just to be able to play. Obviously, you study in the offseason, you get training camp and practice, but, you know, there's part of owning it in the games, too. So when I was able to come back, I was grateful for the opportunity just to be able to grow in the system to, you know, to make it my own, to feel comfortable and, you know, kind of as the season progressed and I got those reps on the field, I just felt more and more comfortable within the system.

Tomer Cohen (30:03)

What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

Bryce Young (30:05)

You know, honestly, mine was actually a little. I'd say, like a little opposite. When I went to my. My rookie year, it was actually. It was at home, Week two against the Saints. Obviously, I was watching film. I know who's gonna be on the team, but, like, first play, I look over and I see Tyron Matthew over there. And, like, for me, like, just growing up, that was someone that I was like. I like that's the Honey Badger. Like, I watched that. I watched the LSU tape like a million times, and I was just like, for, like the after, like the first snap, I said, I was like, all right, all right, let's log back in. But.

Tomer Cohen (30:36)

So you knew he was there, but now you're seeing him there?

Bryce Young (30:39)

Exactly. Like, I'm seeing him move, and I'm like, I don't watch this so many times on film. So that was. That was like a really cool. Really cool moment. And, yeah, it's still cool to look across and. And see people, you know, and you've watched growing up and, you know.

Tomer Cohen (30:56)

You know, if you look and you see Jalen Carter on the other side, like, that's not pleasant.

Bryce Young (31:00)

Yeah, I had to do. I had to see that in college, too. So I guess, yeah.

Tomer Cohen (31:06)

Two of you. Jalen Carter is two of you.

Bryce Young (31:08)

Yeah. Yeah. I have a ton of respect for. Yeah. For those guys, it's. It's really cool. Just also, from a physical standpoint, honestly, for me, seeing guys like that and guys that are just like. It's cool being on that same field. Even though, like, you know, size, stature obviously is different. It's like, for me, I get like a bit of like a. I don't know what it is. It's like a confidence or like, excitement about it where it's like, that's someone who's obviously super big and strong as someone who is this tall or this. And like, I'm here too, and this is where I'm supposed. Like, this is where I'm supposed to be. This is. There's something about that.

Tomer Cohen (31:43)

But who do you study? Because I would think Drew Brees is probably the computer for you. Russell was a bigger. But I don't know who else you were compared to. And. And if you even talk to Drew Brees about playing.

Bryce Young (31:57)

Yeah, I have.

Tomer Cohen (31:59)

He's. He's.

Bryce Young (32:00)

He was gracious enough, especially in the pre draft process. We've had conversations. I have a. That was someone that I've always had a ton of respect for on watch. But honestly, for me, I don't really think about size. I've been like, relative to people around me. I've been this height for, like, my whole life, so I don't really know what it's like to be taller than everyone.

Tomer Cohen (32:17)

But are you small?

Bryce Young (32:19)

I mean, I don't know if that's something for me to answer. I. I don't like. For me, I just know how to. I've been myself and I know how to play football the way I know how to play football, so I've. I, Yeah, I love the game and I love watching people and seeing things they do just from a quarterback standpoint. But I've never thought of it of, you know, everyone, like. Yeah, I'm short for sure, like, for my position. But I.

Tomer Cohen (32:42)

Well, there was the picture of you walking across the parking lot with your bag and look like it was first day of school. Did you see that photo?

Bryce Young (32:49)

I did see that photo.

Tomer Cohen (32:51)

Now, you gotta. You gotta laugh at that a little bit, don't you?

Bryce Young (32:56)

Yeah, no, I don't. I don't. I don't mind at all. Like, all that stuff is. There's, like. I've seen some, like, hilarious stuff about, like, my high. It's fine. Like, I don't. Again, I've. I'm used to it. I embrace it. But I only know one way to play football, so I've never had to adjust. I've never had to, like, okay, dang, this is way different now. This is just how I know how to play the game, how I know how to see it.

Tomer Cohen (33:21)

Well, sometimes we get caught up in number of passes batted down at the line of scrimmage. But then you see guys who were 6, 4, 6, 5 who lead the league and getting, you know, Justin Herbert getting passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. And I don't know if it. When you're with coach. Coach Saban at college, they kind of create, like, windows for you to throw, whereas in the NFL, maybe not as much. So I don't know, like, advice that Coach Saban gave you that you. You take today, you. You always remind yourself of.

Bryce Young (33:51)

Yeah. We've never talked about. It's not really something you bring up or talk about. No matter. I've been in quarterback rooms with every, you know, regardless of, like, the size, you don't ever bring up or talk about batted balls. Obviously, Coach is giving a ton of great advice about a ton of great. A ton of things on and off the field.

Tomer Cohen (34:06)

Did he use the expression Deez nuts?

Bryce Young (34:12)

I don't know if I'm allowed to.

Tomer Cohen (34:14)

You are. Josh Jacobs told me about it. Okay. Years ago.

Bryce Young (34:17)

It may. It may have come up.

Tomer Cohen (34:20)

Okay. Coach. I asked Coach about it too, though.

Bryce Young (34:23)

Okay. What did he say?

Tomer Cohen (34:24)

He said yes.

Bryce Young (34:25)

Okay.

Robert Griffin III (34:25)

Yeah. All right.

Bryce Young (34:26)

For sure.

Tomer Cohen (34:26)

Yeah.

Bryce Young (34:26)

You know, it comes up if he's in a good mood. That's how, you know, like.

Tomer Cohen (34:30)

Oh, it is.

Bryce Young (34:31)

If it's like, before practice, like that, that'll be the time, like during pre practice. And it'll. It'll just be out the blue. Do like a straight face, and you're. All right, cool. Like, how's that today?

Tomer Cohen (34:41)

How's.

Bryce Young (34:42)

He said I can't do his voice, but he's like, very.

Tomer Cohen (34:45)

Because he's. He's like Belichick. He's Estelle.

Bryce Young (34:48)

Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (34:48)

Like Bryce. How about these nuts?

Bryce Young (34:51)

It's like every. Every time he does it, like, you have a second of, like, wait, did he just. All right, cool. Like, this means it should be a pretty good practice. Like, you know, just not mess it up.

Tomer Cohen (35:02)

He is Bryce Young, Carolina Panthers quarterback. Tell me about the Young 9 Foundation that you're doing.

Bryce Young (35:07)

Yeah, you know, that's something that I'm super grateful for. Me and my team at the foundation, you know, we focus on mental health and just making sure that we can spread. Just spread the importance of mental health and kind of change the narrative, especially for the youth. I'm a big believer of the importance of mental health in whatever aspect and walk of life you're in. And just growing up, you know, it's not something that's talked about a lot, and just we have a mission just to try to destigmatize it and do all we can to help. And especially for the younger generation, you know, I think the earlier that you're able to talk about things and you're able to have those conversations and awareness.

Tomer Cohen (35:48)

Has this affected you? I mean, to start this. Is it you affected by this or somebody in your family?

Bryce Young (35:54)

Yeah, again, I think it's something that we all. We all have our own battles, our own struggles. You know, there's obviously different ranges, but I have a lot of family members that my. My dad, mom. They're all in the mental health profession and.

Tomer Cohen (36:11)

Oh, okay.

Bryce Young (36:11)

Yeah. And where my grandfather was as well. So we're all. It's something that I was blessed kind of just to grow up around and be aware of. And, you know, I've definitely had my own personal battles. We all doing. It's something that I feel like the older you are, if it's something you don't talk about or something that you're not aware of, it's harder to kind of change. But when you could get that on your mind earlier at a younger age, I think it can really help throughout life. And also right now, just in the community, the outseeing and passing of fires is something that we. We've gone and helped with, and it's an ongoing struggle. There's a lot of people that are affected right now, just in my community, and that's something also that we've kind of pivoted toward, towards helping and providing care for. So, you know, that's, that's kind of another part of our journey in the.

Tomer Cohen (36:57)

Well, you have that PTSD where, you know, these people going through what they went through, are still going through and they're going to go through this for maybe the rest of their lives in California.

Bryce Young (37:06)

Yeah.

Tomer Cohen (37:06)

That what it meant to you. And then, you know, I always say when people say, oh, you know those people, they can rebuild. And I said, you can rebuild a house, you can't rebuild a home 100%.

Bryce Young (37:16)

And there's a lot of things, I don't want to get into the weeds of it, but there's a lot of things just community wise that, you know, there's a lot of hoops to jump through, obviously dealing with the logistics of things that a lot of families, you know, have to, you know, they have to juggle with. Now I'm trying to keep the community together and a lot of financial things that a lot of people are struggling with. So again, that's something that people are going to be dealing with and are going to have really big, it's going to be big for years now. So just trying to have substantial support for the people and the victims of that is important.

Tomer Cohen (37:45)

It's Bryce Young, the Young nine Foundation. What did Patrick Mahomes say to you after you guys lost to them in Carolina?

Bryce Young (37:54)

Yeah, you know, that I had talked to him a few times before. He was just telling me that he was, you know, he was happy for me that, you know, he was, you.

Tomer Cohen (38:01)

Know, I mean, not that happy for like. He was happy that you didn't beat him, right?

Bryce Young (38:06)

Yeah, no, he was just happy for, you know, the way I was playing and, you know, turning things around and that he was always room for me, which, you know, I, that's someone I, you know, obviously it's, it's my home. Someone that I, I may have the utmost respect for. Has always been super, super gracious, super nice the times I've talked to him.

Tomer Cohen (38:22)

Did you trade jerseys?

Bryce Young (38:24)

No, we didn't. Didn't, didn't. Jersey swap. I'm bad at that though. I'm a bad, like, I'm, I'm bad at asking. It never like crossed my mind. No, I just full transparency. Like, I'm not really like a, I don't really have, I have people's jerseys. I don't know if I'm like a hang up people's jersey. Like I didn't grow up around A lot of sports memorabilia, I guess. A lot of sports. So it's like, I value the relationships I have with people in the league. And, like, I. I have a lot of really close friends. A lot of people I'm really close with. Like, I value that more than I think of it, like a jersey or a piece of memorabilia. So it just never. It rarely crosses my mind for it.

Tomer Cohen (38:59)

Whose jersey do you have that I might be surprised?

Bryce Young (39:02)

You'd be surprised.

Tomer Cohen (39:06)

No defensive players, right?

Bryce Young (39:07)

No, I have some defensive players. Yeah. A lot of the Eagles players.

Tomer Cohen (39:11)

Honey Badger, I don't have.

Bryce Young (39:13)

Again, same thing. It just never crosses my mind of, like, get a jersey. Like, I've talked. Like, I've. He's. I've talked to him multiple times. He's really cool. Like, so in my mind, like, I value, like, oh, yeah, it's cool.

Tomer Cohen (39:22)

Like, we have. Bring out Honey Badger. Hey, Todd, why don't you reach out to Honey Badger and just say, bryce is kind of shy. Doesn't. We can do that. He seems a little reserved and quiet, but. Would you put Honey Badger's jersey up in your bedroom?

Bryce Young (39:42)

Okay. I shut out my dog. He knows that. He knows that's my dog. I mean, I. There's no one's jersey I would put. I don't have any of my stuff up. I don't have anyone.

Tomer Cohen (39:51)

Where's the. Is the Heisman with you?

Bryce Young (39:53)

I don't. My. My parents have it.

Tomer Cohen (39:55)

Oh, okay.

Bryce Young (39:55)

Yeah, yeah.

Tomer Cohen (39:56)

Do they have it on? Like, soon as I walk in the house, I go, oh, it's not in the house?

Bryce Young (40:00)

No, not in the house. I think my. Is in my dad's office.

Tomer Cohen (40:03)

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's. That's a. That's a baller move there by your dad. Yeah.

Bryce Young (40:07)

I'm not gonna lie. He has a good little setup to where, like, if you zoom him, it's.

Tomer Cohen (40:10)

Like in the background. I like it. The Foundation Young and the number nine Foundation, Bryce Young. Thanks for joining us. Second year. A lot of people rooting for you. A lot of people rooting for you. We'll take a break. We're gonna play a game. What is the game called, Paulie?

Dan Patrick (40:28)

The downside super bowl downside game.

Tomer Cohen (40:31)

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Tomer Cohen (41:27)

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart?

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Robert Griffin III (45:41)

I said I don't care about the money. I just want to win the championship. Now is it, is it something that. No. Maybe they end up no keeping me or saying that they're not taking any offers. That's a possibility.

Tomer Cohen (45:56)

But no, I just want people to.

Robert Griffin III (45:59)

Know that it's not about me being the highest paid non quarterback or me having a huge contract or any of that. I want to say at the end of the season, I played in the biggest games that I won. At the end of my career, I had a chance to display my talent and everything I had. And it all came to fruition.

Tomer Cohen (46:17)

Everything that I dreamed and everything that I hoped for. So that's Myles Garrett on the Rich Eisen show here in New Orleans. By the way, we've talked a lot about the NBA, the trade deadline later on today. Don't know if there's going to be any blockbusters because we have to redefine what blockbuster means. After the LUCA deal, I'll give you over under NBA regular season totals. If I gave you the Mavs over under, the warriors over under and the Lakers over under, I'll throw the spurs in there as well. So Mavericks over under Marvin.

Robert Griffin III (46:56)

For wins.

Tomer Cohen (46:57)

Yes.

Robert Griffin III (46:58)

52 and a half.

Tomer Cohen (47:00)

TODD 50 and a half. SATAN 54 and a half.

Dan Patrick (47:07)

Oh, 48 and a half.

Tomer Cohen (47:09)

43 and a half.

Seaton (47:10)

Dang.

Bryce Young (47:10)

Overrated.

Tomer Cohen (47:11)

Yeah. Over, under, over underrated. Warriors made the big deal. They got Jimmy Butler the over under. Paul for the Warriors 44 and a half. Marvin 41 and a half. Todd 43 and a half.

Seaton (47:28)

Seaton 45 and a half.

Tomer Cohen (47:30)

42 and a half. The Lakers over under 44 and a half. Todd 49 and a half. Arvin 47 and a half.

Dan Patrick (47:42)

Just won three. 46 and a half.

Tomer Cohen (47:44)

48 and a half. You guys are dancing around it. No bloop bloops yet and I'll throw out the Spurs. Marvin, spurs over under is 37 and a half. Todd 39 and a half.

Dan Patrick (48:00)

Paul 40 and a half.

Tomer Cohen (48:03)

I knew that he did it. Nobody knows the spurs like you know you and Michelle Beetle.

Dan Patrick (48:10)

Mr.

Bryce Young (48:10)

Spur.

Tomer Cohen (48:10)

Nobody knows the spurs like you know the spurs.

Dan Patrick (48:12)

She be Mrs. Spur.

Tomer Cohen (48:14)

You're Mr. Spur? Yeah. All right, Time to play the super bowl downside game. Paulie, will you give us the rules here, please?

Dan Patrick (48:21)

It's the person, coach or player. If and or other or other. There's a hint. If this person had a very bad day on Sunday, it would. It would stretch for a long time. It'd be baggage for them for a long time.

Tomer Cohen (48:38)

So there would be a downside to this.

Dan Patrick (48:41)

I'll go first.

Tomer Cohen (48:42)

Okay.

Dan Patrick (48:43)

I think if Nick Sirianni has a bad fourth quarter and air quotes costs his team the game, he will never recover from it.

Tomer Cohen (48:52)

Is it crazy to say if the Eagles get blown out, Nick Sirianni's job would be in jeopardy?

Dan Patrick (49:00)

It would be pending.

Tomer Cohen (49:02)

I don't know. I just. I just dawned on me when you said the downside game. If he loses the super bowl. Another super bowl, even though that's. That's a pretty high bar. If you go, well, did you get to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Did you win? No, I lost two of them. Seaton the super bowl downside game. And your nominee is?

Seaton (49:23)

I think this whole game is going to end up being a referendum on Jalen hurts. And I think if they lose, a lot of fingers are going to be pointed at him. I think if they win, he's going to have to have an unbelievable game to get any credit. But I think it's going to be tough for him either way.

Tomer Cohen (49:39)

Todd. My first thought was Sirianni as well. Okay. Marvin Patrick Mahomes. If he has a bad super bowl, he's out of the goat conversation.

Robert Griffin III (49:48)

And that's two Super bowl losses and no 3 peat.

Tomer Cohen (49:51)

Well, I don't agree with what RG3 said. If Mahomes 3 peach just because Brady didn't do that, that he would be considered the goat. Oh, but I'm just talking about he's.

Robert Griffin III (50:01)

Not in the goat.

Tomer Cohen (50:02)

Yeah. Conversation.

Robert Griffin III (50:03)

If he lose, if he has a bad game, too.

Tomer Cohen (50:05)

No, the answer is Jalen hurts because he has the most upside and the most downside. If he wins, all of a sudden we look at him differently. If he loses, it's. I don't know, can he win a big game here? Can you rely on him to win in a shootout or whatever? It's going to be, you know, there's always going to be narratives here, and it feels like he's got the most upside and the most downside. Yes, Martin.

Robert Griffin III (50:27)

But even if he does win the super bowl, do we put him in the elite quarterback category or do we.

Tomer Cohen (50:32)

Do we just have him as Okay, I don't know. This whole elite thing. Eli was elite. No, he's not. You can't spell elite without Eli. But he was not an elite quarterback. Yes.

Seaton (50:42)

There's going to be a million reasons why you can point to Jalen hurts and say, see? Not him, though. Not him.

Tomer Cohen (50:48)

Well, it's really.

Seaton (50:48)

Saquon carried them is really. Look at all the wide receivers that he's got. Look at all the options that he's got to throw to A.J.

Tomer Cohen (50:53)

Brown.

Seaton (50:54)

Am I going to throw it to divide? Am I going to do it here? He's surrounded by so many good players that it's easy to say, but it wasn't him that did it.

Tomer Cohen (51:03)

Only if it's the last drive of the game.

Seaton (51:06)

Definitely.

Tomer Cohen (51:06)

That's it.

Seaton (51:07)

He's going to have to have A miraculous moment. Something where it was like, dang, that's a hell of a play he just made.

Tomer Cohen (51:12)

Yes. Yes. Paulie.

Dan Patrick (51:13)

Here is a bonus for the super bowl fallout game. Downside game. What if Tom Brady lays an egg on Sunday, like a big egg on Sunday? This is very early in your broadcasting career to host a Super bowl, to.

Tomer Cohen (51:25)

Call a Super bowl, but how's he lay an egg?

Dan Patrick (51:29)

Fangs are out. The people who critique this for a living, and we've talked about it was mentioned before that he doesn't stay with this forever and he becomes really involved with the Raiders. Officially involved with the Raiders. I don't know. I just think the downside game.

Tomer Cohen (51:43)

Yeah, but I don't know how a broadcaster can really stand out as having a bad game. Unless, like, the play by play guy may make a mistake, you know, game winner and, you know, calls out the wrong name or whatever it might be. But I don't know if. I mean, Tom is pretty, you know, down the middle of the street. He doesn't color outside the lines too much. Yes, Todd. Well, just the way we all got excited when Romo was guessing everything that was going to happen beforehand. I know that's not necessarily Brady style, but if he's, like, predicting what's going to happen a lot on the next plane, he keeps getting it all wrong. And it gets a little messy. Here's.

Robert Griffin III (52:15)

They're going to do this here, and.

Tomer Cohen (52:16)

They do the exact opposite several times if someone's looking to pick it. I don't think Tom does that. I mean, that's Romo's thing. And I think we're. We're almost past that fact of, oh, I got it wrong. It's just. I don't know, Jim. You know, they're going to be rolling right and passing and they run it right up the middle. I, you know, I don't think we go, oh, my God, he's terrible. Yeah.

Seaton (52:34)

See, I think over the season, he's gotten a lot better. Tom Brady, I think earlier in the season, it was a little tougher. I think as he's gone on and done more games, you get more reps, you learn a bit more. I think the thing he struggles with is he can't pick which thing to point out to the audience. He knows too much, and he's just like. Which is the one thing I'm supposed to focus on. And he tries to get four things in when there's time for one.

Tomer Cohen (52:57)

And this is what Herb street does so well when he sees a play to tell you what happened in the play immediately. Collins were. I mean, that's what's. That's amazing. Where they go, okay, you see what they were doing here? They were showing blitz, but they came this way and then they came up the middle and then they, you know, they had covered two and. And they know this right away. And it's great advice that Seaton just pointed out. Tom needs to find that thing and then tell me about that thing. Instead of trying to get three things in now you water down the one thing that you really wanted to tell people about. Alrighty. Could Kendrick Lamar have a bad day? I mean, no matter what, it's gonna be better than Drake. Final hour on this Thursday, Marvin Todd Seaton, Paulie, yours truly. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate First. Like, you know to check you have the tickets in your wallet first before you drive two hours to the big game. Seriously, you had one job. Now the closest you'll get to the 50 yard line is parking lot D. Yeah, checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate Savings. Vary terms apply. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.

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