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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour on this meet Friday. We'll talk to Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. Also Jason Garrett, Football night in America will stop by. Your phone calls are always welcome. 877-3-DP Show. It is a meet Friday and in case you're wondering, burgers and waffle fries. Who has it better than we do? All right, Seaton poll question for the final hour of the program. And if you want to recap the first two hours of the program, that'd be great.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we got one up here now.
Dan Patrick
Paulie sent over.
Bobby Bones
NFL quarterbacks get too much credit or too much blame. Right now that is a 5149 split.
Dan Patrick
Do you want to guess which one? They get too much blame.
Bobby Bones
51% have them getting too much blame.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Too much blame. Does that mean that they, those people.
Bobby Bones
Also believe they don't get enough credit?
Dan Patrick
Is that the flip side of that coin or no? I think so. I think so. Yes.
Mike Florio
Paul, based off this result, the quarterbacks getting the exact amount of blame and credit.
Dan Patrick
That's exactly what I was going to point out. Great point by you, Paulie. They get too much blame and too much credit. And this bears that out. The poll question for the final hour.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we just put that one up.
Dan Patrick
About three minutes ago. Okay. Yeah. And what about the poll questions the previous hours? Anything to recap there?
Mike Florio
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Okay. We have up there, Texans aside, if the Lions reach the super bowl, who should they want to play Right now? They should want to play at 4. 42.3% of the vote.
Bobby Bones
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Dan Patrick
I'll tell you. Apparently not. Apparently not. But it's weird to say, yeah, bring on Patrick Mahomes. I know it feels like they've been vulnerable all season long, but they also win these games. Yeah, they're close games, but they win these games. The number, the inordinate amount of games that are decided by seven points or less, it's at an all time high season. You've got the one guy, you got the fixer, you got the closer, you got Mariana Rivera. Enter Sandman. And that's the difference in these games. It can be one possession and oftentimes it is. And if I have the ultimate one possession guy, I don't want to face him. I want to see Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen do it and keep doing it at, you know, whether the, the pressure is really on them. We've seen the pressure on Mahomes. He does really good when the pressure is on him. So I, I understand where you'd say that feels like they're vulnerable and they probably are, but Patrick Mahomes isn't vulnerable. Now. I would worry about the offensive line. As we saw when they played against Tampa a few years ago. When Patrick Mahomes has an ordinary line, he's ordinary and Tampa treated him that way. It doesn't happen very often, but it does feel like Kelsey is not Kelsey. Great Kelsey, he's good Kelsey, but he's another one of those big game game on the line. Six catches for 90 yards and a touchdown. Just feels like you can pencil that those kind of numbers in there. All right. 8, 7, 7, 3 DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Sunday, the playoffs continue. The divisional round. It'll be the Rams going to Philly to take on Saquon and the Eagles. The winner one step away from the Super bowl. Coverage begins on NBC and Peacock at 2 Eastern. You can watch us on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates over 400 around America. Mike Florio's book, it's an ebook and it's now just 99 cents on Amazon. Father of mine, son of mine. And on our way home. And I'm guessing AJ Brown on the sidelines. That would be great product placement, Mike, if he's reading your book on the sidelines this weekend, we're going to Philly.
Mike Florio
And I'm taking it with me and I'm going to sneak over to the bench. I'm going to skirt past Big Dom. I've got SIMS and Devin McCourty ready to create a diversion and I'm going to put it in the right spot and I'm hoping that we have that same jarring moment that we had. And I was watching live and I'm like, what the hell? He's got a book and it was awesome. I always promote reading. 99 cents. Can't find anything cheaper than that. Can't get this for 99 only the ebook. This, you know, paper ain't free, but I want to get this in A.J. brown's hands and I'm taking it to Philly. It might get a little wet because it's going to snow now, but that's okay.
Dan Patrick
What are you being told weather wise? I know Kansas City will be cold. There's the chance for snow in Philadelphia, maybe in Buffalo as well.
Mike Florio
Well, the thing about weather forecasts, and I don't mean to indict the entire industry, but it seems to me the only weather they ever get right is yesterday's. But at the same time it's moving towards snow and the temperature is going to peak at 36 degrees. This is your weather on the ones here on the Dan Patrick Show. It's going to peak at 36 and it's going to gradually drop throughout the day. And then we have a nor'easter or something that's going to cause 4 to 5 inches of snow throughout the day. And it looks like the greatest chance of snow comes right about the time we'll be freezing our asses off on the sideline before the game and during the game. And remember that 2013 Lions Eagles game in Philly. Matthew Stafford was the quarterback of the Lions then. He's been through it. The rest of the team has not been.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I and we were talking to David Carr and he said cold is what affects you. He said, you know, if it snows, you're okay with that. Wind is that's the big thing if, you know, if it's windy in these conditions here. And, and I, I was just talking about, I kind of stumbled on this last hour where I said to David Carr it feels like the Lions have more pressure on them than anybody else, including the team trying to three peat in the Kansas City Chiefs. You're going to lose your coordinators probably. You had your opportunity last year. These windows close and it just feels like they have the spotlight on them shining a little brighter than anybody else. Your thoughts?
Jason Garrett
Yeah.
Mike Florio
When you talk about yourself as a team of destiny, that just amps it up even more. Now you're coming in as 8 1/2 point favorites against a team that feels more if you watch the outcomes of some of these commanders games, it feels like destiny's on their side, not your side. And the challenge, I think for Dan Campbell and the Lions because they've crafted this identity and being aggressive and going for it and just that's who we are, you don't even wonder anymore when it's fourth and anything less than five. But man, when you get into single elimination, you have to wonder, are there moments where you should set aside who you are and and work the circumstances toward winning the game? I go back to the NFC championship. They're up 17 at the half. The 49ers get a field goal to cut it to 14 on the first drive of the third quarter. They get in position to to put it back to a three score game and really put the clamps on the 49ers. But they went for it because that's what we always do and that's fine as long as it works. When it doesn't work, it opened the door for the comeback and they came back and they knocked out the Lions. Will Dan Campbell pivot from the nature of the team in the right moment to preserve a win? And when you're talking about a team like the Commanders that thrives on close games, it introduces even more risk if you, if you are caught in this idea of do we go for the kill here or do we play it conservatively? And maybe with the Commanders you could make the argument it is the smart thing to do to go for a knockout whenever you can get one.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk, you can see that show preceding hours on Peacock. Why is the coaching carousel slowed down?
Mike Florio
Because there's only two guys who are no brainers going into it, Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson. Now with Ben Johnson, the question is, is there a spot where he is willing to go and give up this opportunity to be part of an emerging juggernaut in Detroit? And also, not every guy wants to be the guy at the front of the room. I've heard that Ben Johnson relishes his current role as mad scientist, coming up with all these trick plays, running the offense and not dealing with the pressure of being the head. Look at what Dan Campbell has to deal with. I mean, he got doxxed. They had people show up at his house. When you're the offensive coordinator, that doesn't happen. When you're the head coach, that happens. And alignment has been the word most associated with Ben Johnson. He wants alignment with the front office. So you look at some of these jobs where there's a GM that maybe isn't going to be as aligned. And then you look at the Raiders where two days after they fired the head coach, they cleared out the gm, the alignment is more likely going to be in Vegas if he chooses that job. And all indications when you talk to people around the league, are the Raiders really Want him. The question is, does he want to leave the Lions for anyone, specifically a Raiders team that needs a lot of help to become a contender?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I wondered about this. That does he stay. I don't know how many assistant coaches, Mike and you probably have a better handle on this. Coordinators who realize that they aren't head coaches or that maybe they don't want to be head coaches. And I'm. I'm just throwing that out there. I don't have any numbers to back that up. It feels like that's the, the natural progression. But yeah, as I've said many times, the audience is tired of hearing it. Not every coordinator is meant to be a head coach.
Mike Florio
Well, and the other thing too, Dan, when you're a coordinator in the window opens for you to be a head coach. Some guys feel like they better jump through it now because it might close by next year. Johnson has the confidence and it's backed up by having a great team on the field that he's working with that the window is going to stay open so I don't have to go this year. He didn't go last year. You wait for the right spot. The problem is these jobs rarely come open because the team looking for a coach is a properly functioning NFL franchise. Every team, unless you have a retirement, when the guy walks away and the team's on top, every team that's looking for a coach is a bad team that is trying to find a way to get better. So you go into a dysfunctional situation, two or three years later, you get fired, you have that scarlet letter on your coaching resume, and then you go back to being a coordinator. I think Johnson understands that and it makes him reluctant to just take whatever comes along. There's a lot of factors that go into it, but number one is alignment. And if he doesn't have the alignment, he's not leaving. And I think this year when you look at the jobs out there, you look at the teams that have interviewed him. Like the jets are at least sufficiently self aware to not even bother to try to interview Ben Johnson. Right. So I give them credit there. They know what they are. But I think it's the Raiders or Lions. Take that Raiders job or stay put for Ben Johnson.
Dan Patrick
Your favorite player, Aaron Rodgers. Not sure if he's going to play again next year, but I saw where the Vegas odds, the favorites, the Vegas football team. Your thoughts on Tom Brady bringing in Aaron Rodgers for a year?
Mike Florio
Well, it makes sense depending upon who they ultimately hire as GM and head coach. I think he's not going to be back with the Jets. I think he wants the jets to be the ones to end it, but I don't think he wants to go back to the jets after the last two years. When you consider your ultimate football legacy. Nothing's going to take away what he did in Green Bay. But I think any competitor wants the last memory of you to be something other than what it's been with the jets the last two years. And for him, where's my spot where I can do what I thought I was going to do with the Jets? And I don't know that the Raiders are it. When you're looking at the Chiefs and here are the Broncos who are ready to make a push, and the Chargers with Jim Harbaugh. It's going to be very difficult for the Raiders as long as they're in that division competing with those three teams. So that would be the one downside. If you're Rogers, yeah, hey, makes sense. I know Brady, hey, they need a quarterback, you know, Las Vegas, whatever proximity to where he lives in the off season. But is it really a spot where you're going to have a chance to compete for a postseason berth and ultimately a championship?
Dan Patrick
How real is the Dion to Dallas story, in your opinion?
Mike Florio
Well, I think it was a masterstroke of publicity and attention. They drop it that Deon had talked to Jerry Jones during the Rams Vikings playoff game. They know what they're doing and there's a lot of that carnival barker in Jerry Jones, but I just don't see it happening under the current circumstances. Now, Deion's a guy who said a year ago he'd never coached in the NFL. Then he says, I'd only coach my sons. Well, Shedeur is not going to be the quarterback of the Cowboys next year. He may not be the quarterback of the Cowboys for a long time to come because of Dak Prescott's contract. So I don't see it making sense. But how many things do the Cowboys do that makes sense? And at the end of the day, who are they going to hire? And here's the problem with doing the hey, we're going to talk to Dion and hey, we're going to talk to this guy and hey, we're going to talk about Bill Belichick. And our new coach is Kellen Moore. It's kind of a letdown, all due respect to Kevin Moore at the end, Kellen Moore at the end of the day, if that's where it goes. But I think a lot of people are thinking it's going to be Kellen Moore when it's all said and done with this weird possibility that Jason Whitten could make the jump from high school football coach to Cowboys coach. Because there are people who think one of these days Whitten's going to be the head coach of the Cowboys. It just might not be now.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but he made that jump to broadcasting and that didn't go well for Jason Whitten. I would think it would be a tough, a tougher jump from high school football to coaching the Cowboys. See? Oh my God, you're right, Dan.
Mike Florio
It's not. I mean, is it really a coveted job? Is it really? When you go to Dallas, you have to accept the fact that Jerry's the one who's shopping for the groceries, that Jerry's going to do two radio spots a week that are going to make headlines during the season, that he's going to do a post game media scrum that's going to outshine your post game press conference. You got to be ready to deal with that if you're a head coach. And a lot of these guys who want to be the head coach don't want Jerry Jones to be the face and voice of the team.
Dan Patrick
Well, I don't think being the coach of the Cowboys means as much as it once did 30 years ago. I still think being the quarterback of the Cowboys still means an awful lot. But that's the problem I have with this job. No matter who takes the job, you got a 32 year old, injury prone, immobile quarterback who's making, who's owed over $230 million guaranteed. That's not something I want to walk into.
Mike Florio
Cowboys have done a great job drafting and developing. They have made numerous mistakes figuring out what to do with their young players when it's time to pay them. They've paid the wrong guys like Michael Gallup. They've not paid or waited too long to pay the right guys, which paints them into a corner. They did that twice with Dak Prescott. They did that. Dak Prescott Current contract, 60 million a year with all that guaranteed money on the morning of the regular season opener because they knew we need to do this or he's going to walk away as a free agent. And in hindsight, plenty of Cowboys fans would say we should have let him play it out and start from scratch at the quarterback position. But they have just mishandled the negotiations. They wait too long, they lowball the players and then they come around and cry uncle. It's just not a good way to build a sustainable, successful franchise.
Dan Patrick
Let me look at a couple of resumes here before I let you go. If I said Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy, who are hall of Famers.
Mike Florio
Right now, and I saw the tweet earlier in the week from the guy at ESPN who goes by himbo that, that McCarthy needs a better publicist because McCarthy has a better track record than Peyton and Tomlin, when you look at some of the big picture things, I think that Tomlin right Now, given the 18 years in Pittsburgh, given that it's the Steelers, two Super bowl appearances, consistent contender, never had a losing season, I think Tomlin is the guy who walks right in. But you know, Peyton and McCarthy are going to have strong cases. But then there's a log jam. There's plenty of coaches who deserve to be in who haven't gotten in. And they, they always change the rules a little bit. And you never quite know what the standard is or what the process is or whether coaches are competing with other players or competing with owners or they have their own lane. It's hard for guys who deserve to be in to get in, like a Mike Holmgren and a Mike Shanahan. So the coaches of today are going to be caught behind that. But I think Tomlin is the one. 18 years, no losing seasons, two Super bowl appearances, playoff appearances. I think Tomlin is the one of the three that's the most likely to get in.
Dan Patrick
Safe travels to Philadelphia. Play nice there, Mike.
Mike Florio
Well, I'm not the one that needs to be told to play nice. I got to worry about the fans. Rodney Harrison's going to throw snowballs at me. It's going to be a challenge. Today I might wear a helmet.
Dan Patrick
He's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host and he'll be there with NBC Football Night in America. His book, all of his books available on ebook, novels and just 99 cents on Amazon. Father mine, son of mine. And on our way home, we'll take a break. Jason Garrett set to join us next year on the Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
Mike Florio
Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on FOX Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich.
Justin Pennock
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Mike Florio
Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich Live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the.
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And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink.
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There was something sentimental when you. When you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?
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What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Burkin Demers.
Jason Demers
Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
Adnan Virk
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Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment, and pop culture. And you know what tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
Adnan Virk
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Dan Patrick
More of your phone calls coming up. 877-3-DP-SHoVE update the poll results here in a moment as we catch up with Jason Garrett and NBC Football Night America will be on the road Sunday at 2 Eastern in Philadelphia. It'll be the divisional game between the Rams and Eagles. Kickoff will be at 3 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, by the way, Jason, this summer was a busy guy. He was working with NFL Films, and in May he was with Troy Aikman and Dak Prescott. He then traveled to San Diego. He was with Drew Brees, Norv Turner, and then the legendary quarterback coach Tom House went to Phoenix. He worked with Kurt Warner. He also was there for Aaron Rodgers. And in Buffalo with Josh out. So what was he doing with all of these great offensive minds, all of these quarterbacks? And what he did is available on YouTube. Jason joins us now. So give us a synopsis of what you were trying to accomplish or did accomplish with your your summer project here.
Jason Garrett
Yeah, you know, a couple of years ago, I was up at training camp visiting the packers and Matt LaFleur was great. I spent the whole day with him and sat in meetings. And at the end of the day, we're finishing up the quarterback meeting. And, you know, I used to always tell our players in Dallas that if you get a chance to be around greatness, don't ask guys about their house or their car or their boat. Right? Ask them about why they're great. And so I'm sitting next to Aaron Rodgers and I said, I'm going to take my own advice here. And I just turned to him and said, hey, just before I leave, just give me one thought on throwing one of the best throwers of his generation, one of the best of all time. And I've known him for a long time. My first year coaching was in Miami for Nick Saban, and it was 2005, the year that Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers were coming out. We had the second pick in the draft, so spent a lot of time with him then and coached him in the Pro bowl and competed against him and he's always been very generous with me. So he jumps up out of the seat and he says, all I think about when I throw is. Is getting the weight to the inside of my left ankle, the inside of my left calf, and the inside of my left knee. And I'm like. Like, what are you talking about? I've never heard anybody talk about that. And so it struck me, I'm flying home that night, and I had a. I had a throwing sequence of Joe Namath on my wall when I was growing up. It was eight throws from his book, the classic A Matter of Style. I don't know if you remember that, but it was just incredible. And so I had this image of Namath in my mind talking about throwing. That's how I envisioned the perfect throwing motion. And here's Aaron Rodgers 50 years later, talking about the inside of his left ankle. Like, what are we talking about here? So it struck me that the best thrower then threw it one way, the best thrower now throws it another way. And the evolution of the throwing motion, it's different. And so I asked a few people about it, and they kind of agreed with me. And I said, I want to talk to the principal guys. I want to talk to the guys who are actually throwing the ball. And so I got with Troy and Dak, and then it kind of grew to get a chance to talk to Drew Brees and Tom House and Norv and everybody from there. And eventually we talked to Aaron and Josh Allen. And what we found out is it has evolved that the great throwers back then could really throw the ball. You go back and look at the tape of Joe Namath and Terry Bradshaw and those guys, they could throw the heck out of the ball. Marino, Elway, Aikman, all these guys. But they threw it differently than the guys are throwing it today. And so we just did an examination of it. We did it with NFL Films, and NFL Films, as we all know, is one of the great entities of all time. So it was a really fun project to do.
Dan Patrick
But also, this is the evolution of the golf swing. They're hitting it further, they're using the ground, getting kind of leverage with that. With baseball, we're seeing pitchers throw, you know, more pitchers throwing faster than ever can. Can. Are these quarterbacks throwing the ball faster? Like, is that. Is that important? Or is it the. The quickness of the release that's more important?
Jason Garrett
Well, one thing that, you know, part of this project is we're going to try to go deeper on this. It was a 22 minute segment NFL Films presents. And one of my pangs when we finished it was we probably used less than 1% of the content for each of the guys. Troy Aikman talked about it for over an hour. Drew Brees hour and a half. I mean, we had so much great stuff and you have to try to fit it into this, into this little window. So I think you can go a lot deeper on all this. And one of the great takeaways is all these rotational athletes do things with the same principles of physics. And you said it, it's ground force, it's rotation, it's lag. You know, this concept of lag where you're, where you're opening your hips and you're keeping your upper body closed and you're kind of corkscrewing and then it all whipping together. That's not something we talked a ton about when I was growing up throwing a football. It was more about shoulder rotation. It's all coming together. And so I think these guys are or more into that. And a big part of this is the game has changed. When you think about Naamath, we go back and we see these pictures of Namath. He's literally taking a 13 step drop. He's 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage, rifling these balls down the field. And you know, some people say namath, I completed 50% of his passes. He threw more interceptions than touchdowns. Well, the game was completely different back then. Bubble screens and rocket screens and get it out of your hand and all that kind of stuff. That's not what the game was. So these guys were bigger, stronger, like rifling it down the field. Now it's more like shortstop to second base. We're getting the ball out of our hand a lot. So how do you generate power with using ground force and rotation and have these quicker little Derek Jeter type throws in the middle of the infield? I think, I think the game has become a lot of that and these guys are awfully good at it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's available on YouTube. It's, it's nerd tastic. Like you'll nerd out if you're into this stuff. And Jason sent it to me and I'm like, this is great. You did a great job. Jason will be in Philadelphia. It's the Rams and the Eagles coming up on Sunday. There's always a surprise divisional round weekend. Give me the surprise.
Jason Garrett
I don't think there's a surprise this weekend. I really don't. I think Kansas City wins as great as Houston was last week. You know, we had the show on Sunday night and we had these gigantic pictures of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey behind us and I just turned around and said, first ballot, first ballot, first ballot. And they're playing at home. I think it's hard for Houston, as great as they played last week, to go up there and beat them. I really do. I think it'll be hard for Washington to go into Detroit to win. As great as Jaden Daniels was last week, I think it's going to be hard for the Rams to go to Philly and win. And then the one that I think everybody's waiting for is Josh against Lamar. And I think that's a pick him anyway. So I don't see any big surprises. I think we have four great games.
Dan Patrick
You got to take Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, who you take.
Jason Garrett
Every time I'm on this show, you're asking me these kinds of questions. Gun to my head, I take Josh Allen. But I think Lamar Jackson is one of the most amazing players I've ever seen in my life. So it's hard for me to argue against him. Two time MVP will probably be a third mvp and he's revolutionized the quarterback position.
Dan Patrick
But how about you? Well, I thought Josh Allen was the MVP this year. Even Lamar had the stats last year. Josh had the stats, didn't win. So I like I. It's a fluid philosophy or criteria for voting for mvp and I think that's where I go. Okay. I didn't expect Buffalo to be this good. Now granted they were in a bad division, but I looked at them as an underdog and I thought I'd actually seen Josh Allen become a great quarterback this year where he didn't force it, he didn't put on the Superman cape as much as he likes to. And it felt like that was a true team effort. So MVP for a team. I would give it to him. I thought Derrick Henry is a great security blanket. Now I did have somebody, a coach who said the following. You keep talking about how you know Derrick Henry helped Lamar Jackson. Did you ever think Lamar Jackson helped out Derek Henry as well? Because what he was in Tennessee, anybody could have had him. Nobody wanted him. They take him and he rushes for nearly 2,000 yards. So a long winded way of saying I would take Josh. There's no wrong answer in this.
Jason Garrett
Yeah. The trickiest thing for me is I was fortunate to be on those great teams with the Cowboys in the 90s. And one of the things I learned was everyone benefited from each other. Troy Aikman made Emmett Smith better. Emmett Smith made Troy Aikman better. Emmett Smith made the receivers better. The line made Emmett better. Emmett made the line better. They made the defense better. The defense, you know, and so that's. That's when. When you're a great team, that's what happens. And sometimes you say each of the guys, their candidacy for something like MVP gets diminished because, hey, he's got Derrick Henry. Well, yeah, you know, and fair or unfair, but that's what teams are. You know, Magic and Kareem played together. You know, Bird Mikhail played together. I mean, Jordan and Pippin played together. I mean, if you want to be a great championship team, you have to have good players around you. And so I don't think we should diminish Lamar, but it certainly is an advantage for lamar to have big 22 behind him.
Dan Patrick
Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America former Cowboys head coach. What advice would you give Deion Sanders about taking the Cowboys job if offered?
Jason Garrett
If he wants to do it, he should take it. He's done an amazing job at Colorado. I think he's changing college football in some ways, and he's impacting a ton of lives. But if he feels compelled to dive into it, dive into it. He and Jerry have a long relationship, and they've had a call.
Dan Patrick
Need to know, though, Jason, about Jerry, the owner, Dion, the coach, that's different than that owner and that player. So this is different. This is day to day, week to week, game to game, and that's a whole different game.
Jason Garrett
No doubt. But I. But I bring that up just because that relationship matters. I think Dion knows Jerry, Jerry knows Dion, and I think they can have the kind of conversations you need to have between owner slash general manager and head coach. You got to be able to be honest and direct with each other. And when you're the head coach in that situation, sometimes things don't go your way. Sometimes you want to do something, and the owner and general manager wants to do something else, and that's part of the deal. Everybody's got a boss, right? So I do think they can be honest with each other. I don't think they'll be walking on eggshells around each other. I think they value their relationship, and I think they can be direct with each other. I think that benefits that situation. So my encouragement to him would be, tell Jerry what you think. It might not go your way. Tell him what you think. He needs to know what you think about this player, this coach, this philosophy, what we're doing on offense, defense, and then if it becomes something where you have to get into it, you have a disagreement, hopefully you can rely on that relationship you've had to work your way through it. And I think that's an important thing.
Dan Patrick
Just feels like they're two CEOs, though. Jason?
Jason Garrett
Well, if you think about what the, what the position of head coach is, there's a lot of great coordinators on offense and defense who go become head coaches, and they're not real good at it because maybe they don't fully understand that being a head coach is a leadership position first and foremost. And there has to be layers of leadership in an organization. It's multi tiered leadership, and so it's owner and general manager, but then it's head coach and then it's coordinators, it's quarterback, all of that. So I don't know that because both of them have leadership, CEO type skills. I don't know that. It has to be combative. It can be layered, and I think that's an important piece of this. Hopefully they don't step over each other, and hopefully the big CEO gives the next CEO a chance to put his imprint on the team, because I think that's an important part of it.
Dan Patrick
But what was it like when Jerry's holding his own press conference?
Jason Garrett
Sometimes it could be challenging because as you know, media people.
Dan Patrick
That's a fun word there. Challenge.
Jason Garrett
Yeah. Media people love to find the wedge. And so sometimes, you know, Jerry would say something, and I think the people who were covering our team knew that probably that wasn't something that I agreed with. And they said, hey, Jerry said this. What do you think about that? So you had to deal with that. But, you know, it's, it's, it's, it comes with the dinner. As Troy used to say, you just figure it out. And you can't let, you can't let those things detract from what you're trying to build. Sometimes you'd wish they weren't there. You didn't have to deal with those distractions. There's a lot of attention on that team anyway, so why are we, you know, adding fuel to the fire? But, you know, again, it's part of it and you work your way through it.
Dan Patrick
I asked Tim Cowlishaw, if I said to Jerry Jones, you can't hold yet, can't have a radio show, can't do any interviews for the next five years, but you're, I'm going to guarantee you a Super bowl, would Jerry be able to go without being interviewed, do his radio shows. If I said, you're going to win a Super bowl.
Jason Garrett
Again, I just don't think, I just don't think he wants to give that up. Someone asked me the other day, you know, do you go in there and do you try to, do you try to change Jerry Jones? I said, He's 82 years old. You're not changing him. This is what he wants to do. He took a lot of risk in his life. He made a lot of money. He'll tell you the story about how he bought the Dallas Cowboys a risky endeavor. And with that risk comes a lot of reward and a lot of freedom. And part of it is he feels like he wants to be the lead voice of the organization. And I don't see him giving that up anytime soon.
Dan Patrick
That's for sure. You'll find Jason Garrett. This video, I don't even know how to describe it, but it's on YouTube and if you love sort of the evolution of the quarterback and throwing and hearing from all these hall of Famers, it's really great. It's nerdtastic as I, I've come up with that word. And Jace will be on the road. It'll be Football night in America in the afternoon on Sunday. They started 2:00 with the Rams and the Eagles. Safe travels and thanks for joining us.
Jason Garrett
Yeah, thanks, Dan. Always enjoy it. Have a good weekend.
Dan Patrick
Jason Garrett. There's always one of those questions I have to ask Jason where he goes. You always do this to me every time I come on. Yep. And if I was on Football night in America still, I would do that, too, for a national TV audience.
Mike Florio
Yes, Paul, but so many people speculate on coaching the Cowboys and what it's like day to day. This guy for a long time did it. I mean, it's, I can't imagine the juggle of when you go to the podium and the owner has just spoken, you don't know what he said.
Dan Patrick
Wait a minute, what does he do? What did he say? All right. When we come back, if you're watching on Peacock burgers and waffle fries, we will close up shop this day in sports history. Last call for phone calls. All of that coming up next here. Dan PATRICK Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple.
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Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.
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There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?
Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
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It's extremely pink.
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Adnan Virk
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Mike Florio
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
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Mike Florio
Yeah. Two, three, four.
Dan Patrick
The man named after Marvin Gaye. Thank you for the accompaniment there, Marvin. All right, last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store. On Monday, hall of Famer Steve Young will be back to dissect everything that happened over the weekend. 8773 DP Show Stat of the day was brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Oh, we got breaking news, slash good breaking news.
Mike Florio
You ready?
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Mike Florio
For the first time in almost two years, Dick Vital will return on air at ESPN for the Duke Wake Forest game tomorrow. Awesome.
Dan Patrick
Awesome, baby. Awesome, baby.
Mike Florio
That's awesome, baby.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. Thank you. That's great. That's great. Been a long, long, long haul here for Dicky V, but this is what he lives for. You know, we talk about coaches who want to coach until they die. Dicky V wants to broadcast until he dies. That's what he does. He loves basketball. He loves the environment, the students, the coaches, everything about that. He is college basketball and has been for, what, close to 40 years? Yes. Marvin, who's the Dick Vital of other sports where they're so passionate about a.
Mike Florio
Sport you could just see like it.
Dan Patrick
Oozes out of them. Well, you don't. I mean, Dicky V is unique. I don't. I don't know if there is like John Madden was kind of that.
Mike Florio
But.
Dan Patrick
But you know, John was a really successful coach. Dicky V was not a successful coach. He coached a little bit in the NBA and then in college as well. Yes, Mark. Well, maybe not in terms of enthusiasm, but the way they spoke about the.
Mike Florio
Game, even if they were even keel, emotionally, you could tell this dude lives for this game. I.
Dan Patrick
Once again, I don't know if there's anybody that passionate about their sport than Dicky V. But. But Dicky V got to broadcast like he was different than anybody else. He. He did it in a way that was different than anybody else. And I don't know. Nobody's going to try to emulate that. I mean, you'd be crazy to go, I. I'm going to be the Dicky V of NFL or college football. That just. That. That would be almost impossible. By the way, I got a random stat, a rando here. Most 50 point games allowed since the start of the 2020 season in the NBA. You guys want to guess the team that has allowed the most 50 point games since 2019 or 2020 and 2021? Yes, Paulie.
Mike Florio
It feels wizard. Ish. You know, a little wizard.
Dan Patrick
It is the Wizards of Waverly.
Mike Florio
Good job, Wizards.
Dan Patrick
Back in the news. They. They have allowed ten 50 point scores over that period. The Pacers are next. Hawks and spurs after that. And in case you're wondering. Oh, boy, let me see. Is there one in here? Now these are all pretty good names there that scored 50 against the Wizards. Let's see. The Pacers. I'm trying to think if there's any. Oh, here's one. The Hawks. Steph Curry did it twice. Luca did it once. Kevin Durant, Zach Levine. Klay Thompson. And who is the other player to get at least 50 against the Hawks over this time frame? I don't even know what team he plays on. I don't even know if I pronounced his first name correctly. Mala. Malachi Flynn. Yes.
Mike Florio
He didn't know that.
Dan Patrick
Malachi Flynn. Lucky Flynn. I don't know why that kind of caught my eye here. Just rando. Andy in Rhode island is back. Hi, Andy. What's on your mind today?
Mike Florio
Hey.
Dan Patrick
Damn.
Mike Florio
I'm on the crosswalk.
Dan Patrick
Oh, hello, Andy.
Mike Florio
Oh, sorry, guys. I. Guys, I'm crossing the street. Somebody just flew past us.
Dan Patrick
Crossing. Walk.
Mike Florio
I'm sorry. So let me get this Together, guys. I was thinking you guys have a most valuable Dan that you have at least valuable than that. But what happened to the most underrated Dan at Dan? You know, I've been thinking really hard.
Jason Garrett
About it and you know, I feel.
Mike Florio
Like there would be some good contenders for it. And also, what would the optics be on Fritzi if he showed up having a rough day and he just started reading a book in the middle of the show?
Dan Patrick
What would the optics.
Mike Florio
Optics be on that?
Dan Patrick
Well, no, that A.J. brown had a good game. So it wasn't like if Fritzi showed up and it was having a great show, then you know, he would be. He could. He could be reading a book.
Mike Florio
Yeah, I just don't pay attention sometimes. I'm not reading a book.
Dan Patrick
11. Yes, Mark.
Mike Florio
Get out of my head.
Dan Patrick
The irony is what number does A.J. brown wear?
Mike Florio
Wow. Full circle like that.
Dan Patrick
This day in sports history. Paul?
Mike Florio
Just one. 1963 Wilt Chamberlain of the San Francisco warriors score 67 points against the LA Lakers.
Dan Patrick
1951 Two Manhattan college basketball players, three bookmakers arrested for conspiring to fix basketball games ultimately saw 32 players from seven different schools arrested for point shaving. Of course, that couldn't happen nowadays, could it? Let's see. Todd, what'd you learn today?
Mike Florio
Shea Gilgis Alexander needs a nickname. SGA is simply his initials because it's too hard to say his seat.
Dan Patrick
No, Connor.
Bobby Bones
SGA nicknames are pretty tricky to come by.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, Todd came up with this.
Mike Florio
Say, hey kid, let's go.
Dan Patrick
I like it. Marvin Florio is going to wear a helmet in Philly.
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Paul, it's auger time.
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Okay?
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The Dan Patrick Show – Episode Summary
Title: HR 3 - Mike Florio, Jason Garrett
Host: Dan Patrick
Guests: Mike Florio (Pro Football Talk), Jason Garrett (Former Dallas Cowboys Head Coach)
Release Date: January 17, 2025
Duration: Approximately 54 minutes
As the final hour of the episode commenced at [03:09], Dan Patrick welcomed his guests, Mike Florio and Jason Garrett, setting the stage for an in-depth discussion on current NFL topics. The focus was on analyzing quarterback performances, coaching dynamics, and playoff implications.
Dan Patrick initiated the conversation with a listener poll question: "Do NFL quarterbacks get too much credit or too much blame?" The results showed a 51% majority feeling quarterbacks receive too much blame.
Bobby Bones shared the poll outcome at [03:10]:
"NFL quarterbacks get too much credit or too much blame. Right now that is a 51-49 split."
Dan Patrick probed further at [03:25]:
"Do you want to guess which one? They get too much blame."
Mike Florio clarified at [03:38]:
"They get too much blame and too much credit. And this bears that out."
This led to a nuanced discussion on the dual pressures faced by quarterbacks, balancing accolades with criticism.
Dan brought up another poll regarding the Detroit Lions' potential Super Bowl opponents:
"Texans aside, if the Lions reach the Super Bowl, who should they want to play?"
The results were closely split between the Chiefs (42.3%) and the Bills (42.1%), with options like the Ravens receiving minimal support.
Dan Patrick analyzed at [04:25]:
"Patrick Mahomes isn't vulnerable. I would worry about the offensive line... He can’t be taken lightly."
The discussion centered on the Lions' strategies against top-tier teams, emphasizing the importance of offensive line strength and quarterback resilience.
Mike Florio delved into the sluggish pace of head coach changes in the NFL. At [10:35], he highlighted:
"There's only two guys who are no brainers going into it, Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson."
They discussed Ben Johnson's hesitancy to leave his current role, preferring to wait for the right opportunity rather than jump into a new head coaching position prematurely.
Mike Florio continued:
"He wants alignment with the front office. So you look at some of the jobs where there's a GM that maybe isn't going to be as aligned..."
This segment explored the complexities and strategic considerations coordinators face before transitioning to head coach positions.
The possibility of Aaron Rodgers joining Tom Brady in Las Vegas was a hot topic.
Mike Florio speculated at [13:52]:
"It makes sense depending upon who they ultimately hire as GM and head coach. I think he's not going to be back with the Jets."
Dan Patrick countered:
"I thought Josh Allen was the MVP this year... I would give it to him."
The conversation assessed the potential impact of Rodgers' move on both the Las Vegas team and his legacy, comparing it to Brady's storied career.
A significant portion of the discussion focused on the rumor mill surrounding Deion Sanders potentially taking the head coach position for the Dallas Cowboys.
Jason Garrett offered at [35:59]:
"If he wants to do it, he should take it. He's done an amazing job at Colorado."
They debated the feasibility of Sanders adapting to the NFL coaching environment and the existing dynamic with Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
Dan Patrick questioned:
"What was it like when Jerry's holding his own press conference?"
Jason Garrett responded:
"Sometimes it could be challenging... but you work your way through it."
The dialogue emphasized the importance of the established relationship between Sanders and Jones, highlighting the potential for honest and direct communication within the organization.
Jason Garrett shared insights from a recent project in collaboration with NFL Films, examining how quarterback throwing techniques have evolved over generations.
At [25:09], Jason Garrett explained:
"We did an examination of it with NFL Films... The evolution of the throwing motion, it's different."
He contrasted Joe Namath's traditional throwing style with modern quarterbacks:
"Back then, bubble screens and get it out of your hand... Now it's more like shortstop to second base."
Mike Florio added:
"It's the ground force, it's rotation, it's lag... These guys are awfully good at it."
The segment highlighted the shift towards quicker releases and leveraging ground force, akin to modern baseball pitching, adapting to the contemporary game's demands.
The conversation turned to the MVP race, debating whether Josh Allen deserved the accolade over Lamar Jackson.
Dan Patrick stated at [33:03]:
"I thought MVP for a team, I would give it to [Josh Allen]."
Jason Garrett responded at [34:47]:
"I was fortunate to be on those great teams... everyone benefited from each other."
They concluded that while individual performances are critical, the team dynamics and mutual player enhancements play a significant role in MVP considerations.
Exploring the interplay between head coaches and Jerry Jones, the show discussed how ownership influence and media presence affect coaching effectiveness.
Jason Garrett shared at [37:47]:
"Sometimes things don't go your way... you work your way through it."
They debated whether having two strong leadership personalities could lead to friction or productive collaboration within the team structure.
Towards the end of the episode, Dan Patrick highlighted various sports anecdotes, upcoming games, and listener engagement initiatives. Notably, a moment of humor occurred when Mike Florio interrupted to cross the street, adding a light-hearted touch to the otherwise serious discussions.
Dan Patrick concluded:
"If you love sort of the evolution of the quarterback and throwing and hearing from all these hall of famers, it's really great. It's nerdtastic."
He encouraged listeners to view the related project on YouTube and anticipates Jason Garrett's appearances on upcoming shows.
Bobby Bones [03:10]:
"NFL quarterbacks get too much credit or too much blame. Right now that is a 51-49 split."
Mike Florio [03:38]:
"They get too much blame and too much credit. And this bears that out."
Dan Patrick [04:25]:
"Patrick Mahomes isn't vulnerable. I would worry about the offensive line..."
Mike Florio [10:35]:
"There's only two guys who are no brainers going into it, Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson."
Mike Florio [13:52]:
"It makes sense depending upon who they ultimately hire as GM and head coach. I think he's not going to be back with the Jets."
Jason Garrett [35:59]:
"If he wants to do it, he should take it. He's done an amazing job at Colorado."
Jason Garrett [25:09]:
"We did an examination of it with NFL Films... The evolution of the throwing motion, it's different."
Dan Patrick [33:03]:
"I thought MVP for a team, I would give it to [Josh Allen]."
Jason Garrett [37:47]:
"Sometimes things don't go your way... you work your way through it."
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show provided a comprehensive analysis of key NFL topics, including quarterback evaluations, coaching transitions, player movements, and playoff strategies. With expert insights from Mike Florio and Jason Garrett, listeners gained a deeper understanding of the intricate dynamics shaping the current football landscape. The discussion on the evolution of quarterback techniques and the MVP race offered unique perspectives, while the speculation around Deion Sanders and the Dallas Cowboys highlighted the ever-present coaching carousel in the NFL.
For those interested in further exploring the topics discussed, particularly the evolution of quarterback throwing mechanics, Jason Garrett's collaborative project with NFL Films is available on YouTube, promising an insightful dive into the technical advancements in the quarterback position.
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