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Ebony
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Jason Fitz
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.
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Buck Rising
San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need to embrace this community.
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Jason Fitz
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app at Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ebony
Summer's here and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle on Good Moms Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her, make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything to hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From tips for healthy living to the latest medical breakthroughs, WebMD's Health Discovered podcast keeps you up to date on today's most important health issues. Through in depth conversations with experts from across the healthcare community, WebMD reveals how today's health news will impact your life tomorrow. It's not that people don't know that exercise is healthy.
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Jason Fitz
It's just that people don't know why it's healthy.
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Ebony
And we're struggling to try to help.
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Buck Rising
People help themselves and each other.
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Ebony
Listen to WebMD Health discovered on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason Fitz
Hey, thanks for listening to The Covino Enrich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every.
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Buck Rising
Weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2.
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Jason Fitz
To 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio.
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Buck Rising
Find your local station for Cavino and rich@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
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Jason Fitz
They say there's no such thing as bad publicity. And imagine Cowboys fans are tired of hearing that. It's Covino and Rich. Jason Fitz, Buck Rising. Hanging out here with you. I like that we get applause every time we say that at the light speed.
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Buck Rising
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lie.
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Jason Fitz
You know, we just, we just need a little extra validation, little affirmation. We just, we like the love. We love hanging out here with you guys. We love being on with you on Fox Sports Radio this afternoo. We love when there's Cowboys drama in the air. That is exactly what Jerry Jones has provided to us this afternoon. Because when given an opportunity to say the right thing, Jerry does have an awful knack for saying the exact wrong thing or the exact thing that his fan base does not want to hear. Fitzy. So that idea of there's no such thing as bad publicity when you've got Jerry Jones at the podium talking at the opening of training camp alongside his head coach who just seems like he's along for the ride with Micah Parsons contract situation hanging in the balance, and you just take the opportunity to fire astray at the star pass rusher for no other reason but because you can. Because you own the Cowboys, because you're Jerry Jones. What is the Cowboys fan base feeling today after you've excoriated them for feeling anything at all?
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Buck Rising
I just want to know what the hell excoriated means. Like, that's a big word. Excoriated. E X C O R I A.
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Jason Fitz
T E D. And I would like a. An urban dictionary reading of the word excoriated at your convenience, please.
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Buck Rising
Okay, that's perfect. Excoriated is the. The word of the day. Look, Buck, let's. Let's run this real quick, okay? You play the press person because you've done this at press conferences. I'm going to be Jerry Jones. All right, so you go ahead and ask me what the question is here on Micah Parsons. Go ahead. Go.
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Jason Fitz
Jerry, what progress is being made on the contract of Micah Parsons?
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Buck Rising
Look, in my experience, Buck, I really appreciate the question, but nothing good comes from having a public negotiation. We love Micah. We want him to be here long term. So we're just going to keep all of that between ourselves. And we're going to do everything we can to get this deal done. But thank you. See how easy that was?
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Jason Fitz
You know how many times I've got that answer? You know how many times I've been swatted away that way by. By a general manager? God knows the Titans have had enough of them in the last couple of years. But the. The simplicity. Keep it simple, Stupid. That's all you got to do. And Jerry just can't help himself.
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Buck Rising
Excoriated. Ian, what do we got? Excoriated. So, yeah, excoriate or excoriation. Noun. A raw, irritated lesion as of the skin or mucosal surface. And then the other definition is the act of abrading or wearing off the skin. Is that what you're going for? No.
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Jason Fitz
No.
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Buck Rising
What?
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Ebony
That's got to be the second.
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Buck Rising
It's got to be the second definition. Excoriation.
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Jason Fitz
Now that. That sounds like a process. Yeah, I don't. Although also, that's not Urban Dictionary. That's far too refined to be Urban Dictionary.
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Buck Rising
Yeah, I. I was really hoping that Ian was going to come in with something kind of naughty and kind of a little bit. A little off the rails. And like, all of a sudden I was going to be able to be like, hey, you want to stand by? Standby later? I thought we were going to have something like Scottish. I don't know.
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Jason Fitz
Yeah, there it is right now. Now we're back to arousal. Now we're back in the heat of things.
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Buck Rising
Scottish effort. Thank you. Hey, look, it's. It's 6pm on the east Coast. Like, it's. It's. It' all right. Like, it's. It's happy hour. Things are getting weird. Like, that's what we talk about. Okay, hear me out, though. Like, I'm not asking Jerry to tap dance. I'm just asking Jerry to stop stepping in it. That's all I'm saying. Like, so to sit in front of the microphone and then call out his. His player in a very public way. Y' all should hear it. This is. This is what Jerry Jones actually said when he was asked about the Micah Parsons negotiations. Just because we sign him doesn't mean we're going to have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously. We've signed. I remember signing a player for the highest paid at the position in the league, and he got knocked out two thirds of the year. Dak Prescott. So there's a lot of things you can think about, just as the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money.
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Jason Fitz
That's Jerry Jones at the podium today. By the way, Micah Parsons only missed four games. Jerry fact check incorrect. He did not miss six games the way that Jerry is indic that he did and also lost in the middle of this Micah Parsons conversation. As J.J. watt correctly pointed out on Twitter, anytime you can publicly take a dig at not just your star pass rusher but your star quarterback too, in the same answer right before the season begins, you just gotta take it. JJ adds, nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while fighting for you. And listen, JJ has some opinions that I agree with, some opin that I don't. He is so spot on about this because a lot of people like to project onto JJ Watt that this Captain America Persona type of thing that he has always had his entire life is not genuine. When I truly take that to heart. When J.J. watt, who I think cares about the game of football more than just about anything else in his life other than his wife and his children, when he writes nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while fighting for you. That is going to resonate for Michael Parsons the way retweeted it. That is going to resonate for Dak Prescott, who is also mentioned in the middle of that clip. Brian Schottenheimer has been around this game for a long time. He's the son of a coach. He understood. He is the one who is essentially going to have to go back into the locker room after the fact be like, all right boys, I know what Jerry said at the podium, but you just, you gotta, you gotta box out the outside noise. Except the outside noise is your owner. That's the thing that makes you insane because the outside noise is giving public tours of your training fac while you're trying to get ready to go out there and beat the defending super bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles in Week 6. The plight of the Dallas Cowboys player is a very, very unique one in the landscape of the NFL. And I know the vast majority of fans get out here and be like, well that's what the money's for. You put up with all of it. You put up with the pain, you put up with the jeering, you put up with the ownership. Boo hoo for the poor millionaires. Except the vast majority of these players aren't millionaires. And the ones who do get there literally are sacrificing their body and route to getting there. Micah Parsons playing through injury, trying to find ways to be available. Really not having any lack of pride about the organization that he plays with, when it would be very easy for a player his age in particular be like, what Winning history of the Dallas Cowboys? I was barely cognizant in the 90s. What are you talking about? This is something. Micah Parsons, though, he does the podcast thing and all the other next gen stuff that we're seeing from athletes right now, he's a pretty damn good soldier. And so for you to be publicly up there taking him out again, Fitzy, this is why I'm upset with you for the way that you went at Cowboys fans earlier, because they have a right to be pissed about this.
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Buck Rising
No, no, no. Two things can be true here. Like, of course, Cowboys fans have every right to look at Jerry Jones and like, look, this is Paw Paw with his feelings hurt. I keep coming back to this, like, somebody upset the old man, and that somebody is Michael Parsons. And so now he comes out and he says really, really terrible things in front of a microphone because he's reactionary. Like, this is who Jerry Jones is. My issue with Cowboys fans isn't the fact that they're frustrate. I think my issue with Cowboys fans is that they let that frustration sound like they deserve some sort of different version of the NFL because they're Cowboys fans. Like, two things can be true. I could sit here and roll my eyes when Cowboys fans say, we haven't won a Super bowl since the 90s, knowing full well that you cover a team that's never won a Super bowl, that, you know, Ian is a fan of a team that hasn't won a Super bowl since 60. We're really just going here again. And I'm a fan of a team that hasn't won a Super bowl since 1983.
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Jason Fitz
So, like, on purpose? You did that on Purp Purpose Day. And don't deflect.
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Buck Rising
No, no. I was just going through the room. I was going through the room. Like, I. I saw Buck's face, I saw Ian's face. I saw my face. I was going in order there. That's awesome. Super Bowl 3 was the last time. Yeah. I didn't remember what year.
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Jason Fitz
Single digit is crazy.
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Buck Rising
So I can sit here and mock Cowboys fans for saying we haven't won a Super bowl since the 90s, when I know full well that you combine all of our fandom and none of us have won a Super bowl since the 90s. Like, that's just normal. In the same breath, I can turn around and say it's maddening. Like I at Yahoo with Jori Epstein, who does great work for us nationally reporting on the NFL, specifically reported on the Cowboys for years and until I worked with her, I was truly unaware when people say it's a distraction to be a Dallas Cowboy. I was truly unaware of the fact until talking to Jory that in the middle of a practice, if you're Dr. Pepper and you're a sponsor, Jerry will break into a middle of a practice and just stop everything so that the sponsors can talk to all the players and shake hands and, you know, get the chance to talk to guys and like, like the wild distractions that come with being a Dallas Cowboy that don't exist. Other places are real. And then when you've got Micah going to a podcast and saying, man, it's always complicated. Like we were ready to do a deal ago, a year ago, and now all of a sudden, not only is the deal not done, but you know, upset pawpaws over here making the deal even tougher to get to. Like, I know he's going to pay the money. It's never about he's going to pay the money, he's going to get it done. But my God, what is he doing in the meantime to the culture, to the locker room, to the conversation, and to his future salary cap by doing the deal damn late.
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Jason Fitz
You know what? Jerry does have one thing right though. Sometimes Fitzy, you gotta just bring everything to a screeching halt and shove everybody else out of the way and pay tribute to the sponsors. Which is exactly what we're gonna do here. If you're looking for your next job, you know it can be a lonely process. Let Express employment professionals be your 1 connection to finding a job that fits job. Seekers. At Express, employment professionals ranked Express Best of staffing staffing in 2025 for helping them finding a job with 870 locations. Visit ExpressPros.com to find an office near you. With Express, you can have your own local recruiter as your advocate in your job search. And job seekers never pay a fee. Every year, hundreds of thousands of people find meaningful work through their local Express office. Whether you're looking for a role in logistics such as warehouse positions, forklift operators or custom customer service jobs, Express has you covered. Express also hires for roles in IT General labor and grounds mainten and Express even has access to jobs that aren't posted yet. Visit expresspros.com to get connected. Find your local Express office today@expresspros.com Remember, there are no fees for job seekers. Let Express help You take the next step in your career. Visit expresspros.com today. So with all of that, Fitzy, I think that Jerry Jones is what you're advocating for more of though when you talk about it's better to be an attention grabber or to have the attention economy than actually be good in sports. You are actively advocating for the thing that you are currently ripping up and down top to bottom. You've spent an hour and a half, an hour and 12 minutes of this show talking about, oh, it's not important to be great. Oh, you know, you could be great. If you do it in silence, nobody will care. All right, Jerry, stop everything. Bring everything to a screeching halt. Tell me about all the different things that are wrong and right with the cowboys and that will make you great. Jerry Jones is your daddy in that regard. He is there for you. He is exactly the kind that you are shout the kind of thing that you are shouting for from on high. Are you happy with what you got, Fitzy? Are you happy that Jerry Jones is here? Other than we get to talk about whatever it is that the dumb. The dumb thing that Jerry Jones said today.
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Buck Rising
You pinned me in. You're right about this.
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Jason Fitz
I did.
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Buck Rising
You are very right about this. You are very right. I'm willing to admit that you got me like Jerry is the reason.
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Jason Fitz
Are we rolling on this? I want to hear this back on repeat for the rest of the show. I just don't know what you rather today. This is. I want to hear I was right. That's all I want to hear.
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Buck Rising
Buck Rising is right. I'll give you an NBA example of the exact thing we're talking about after we take a break. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. We're in for Camino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. He's the daddy.
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Ebony
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Jason Fitz
Through something like that is a traumatic experience. But it's also not the end of your life.
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Ebony
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us.
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Buck Rising
Us.
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Ebony
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Jason Fitz
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.
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Buck Rising
San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch.
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Jason Fitz
And so the succession plan of long.
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Buck Rising
Term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.
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Jason Fitz
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Rising
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.
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Jason Fitz
And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised.
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Buck Rising
You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time. It will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising.
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Jason Fitz
Remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us.
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Buck Rising
Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.
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Jason Fitz
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Rising
It's turned into a deep, philosophical show, if that's actually possible with Buck Rising. And I'm Jason Fitz. I don't know how deep we can get, especially filling in for Cavino and Rich. We're not deep guys. I'll admit that we're sort of happy, but we're having a deep conversation that's turned into a through line. It did. I didn't know it was going to turn here. But the question is, what matters more? Being a great conversation piece or being great? And it's kind of interesting to see what we flock to. Buck Rising just pinned me in. He just pinned me. And I'll admit it, because I'm sitting here laughing about Jerry Jones and as Buck pointed out, like, I'm. I'm doing the very thing that I say, you know, I'm paying attention to a conversation piece instead of something that's great. And that's what we do. I will, Buck, give you another example of this. Are you ready for this? This. Because we were having our prep meeting. And by we, I mean Ian and I, because you didn't show up for it. So we were having a prep meeting for the show, which again, I would like to reiterate once more. We were on FaceTime, Ian and I were. And somehow when. When the FaceTime call went to you, it didn't go through. I like to. If you'd like to fill anybody, like, maybe why you didn't take the FaceTime call.
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Jason Fitz
Because I told you I wasn't going to be on the FaceTime call. Because I told you I was going to be driving in at that time and then I would catch up with the two of you after the fact. You don't read your text. That's not on me.
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Buck Rising
Wow. No, no. I mean, I mean, like last time I checked, you got into the office like three minutes before the show. So basically what you told Ian and I was to do was all the work and then just force feed you the topics. So it's fine. It's Fine. It's fine.
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Jason Fitz
That's right.
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Buck Rising
Like that I appreciate.
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Jason Fitz
That's right.
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Buck Rising
Appreciate your.
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Jason Fitz
You nailed it.
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Buck Rising
Total commitment to.
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Jason Fitz
Yeah, that's.
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Buck Rising
You.
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Jason Fitz
You've. You've articulated my level of prep. Tell me what to talk about and I will be there to talk about it.
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Buck Rising
That, that is, that is fair. But we were having a conversation about some moves that happened in the NBA this week and Marcus Mark going to the Lakers, Chris Paul going back to the Clippers, and Ian asked a question, you know that I think this good sports talk radio conversation in general of like which LA basketball team is better and as we were talking, I said isn't the real conversation that LA basketball doesn't matter? But, but in fairness, it's turned into what we're talking about now. LA basketball will always matter. We will talk about the Lakers and frankly, you and I have talked about this a lot. Like the national media convers will be about the Lakers every single day. The best team in the NBA is Oklahoma City. All right, The Oklahoma, the gifted team, the talented team, the Scotty Scheffler of the NBA currently is Oklahoma City. And how much are we going to talk about Oklahoma City? We are absolutely. Go ahead, whisper it one more time. Go ahead. Scottish effort. Oh God, it feels good. Like the. The Scottish of. Of the NBA is Oklahoma City. And how many people are going. Even opening night when they get their rings, how many people are really going to care about that? We're all talk about whether or not Luca called Marcus Smart individually to make sure he comes and joins the Lakers for a team that may or may not even be relevant in the playoff matchups, that, that won't really be a threat to Oklahoma City. But by God, we're going to talk about them.
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Jason Fitz
Why?
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Buck Rising
Because they're a spectacle and we like spectacles.
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Jason Fitz
What can I do to stop this? Because you, in the same way that you have admitted that I was right about you praising or calling for things like Jerry Jones to exist and then ripping Jerry Jones for existing in exactly the. That you want him to exist. This Marcus Smart buyout from the Wizards then joining the Lakers got way more coverage than Oklahoma City's big three, all signing contracts after winning the championship. It makes me so mad. So mad as a fan of a small market basketball team, as somebody whose basketball team was in the NBA Finals. No, they lost the NBA Finals. And it was a terrible, terrible way to watch a team go down swinging and not even swinging at the end, just FL at the end after the injury. But as somebody who wants to hear about the things. This is a, this is a Ron Rivera quote, all right, that Mike Vrabel co opted during the year that he won coach of the year when I covered him with the Titans in 2021. All right? There are things that are important and there are things that are interesting. And this is one of those things that's interesting as opposed to important. And I feel like you could put sports conversations in either of those two categories when really, really think hard enough about them or just, you know, understand on face value what actually impacts the landscape of the league versus what is going to be the TMZ element of this. The Lakers are interesting. The Lakers are. They are still important enough in the landscape. They are more important than the Cowboys are, say in the NFL right now. Because the Lakers do expect to me be more competitive. And I frankly, I don't think the Cowboys are going to have a bad year. They just play in a division with Washington and Philadelphia where they clearly look like they would be in third place provided that Jaden Daniels doesn't take a huge step back. But the Lakers are the definition of the transactions that are covered being way more interesting than they are important. But even, I mean, Marcus Smart at this stage of his career, I had no idea it was even Washington. I thought he was still roaming around in Memphis somewhere. Marcus Smart getting bought out in Washington and then showing up on the Lakers and that receiving the most NBA season coverage other than LeBron's opt in that it doesn't sound like he really wants to opt in for. I don't know what to do. There's only so many problems I can solve in one day. If it's a. I solved your Cowboys problem for you, I can't help you with the Lakers.
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Buck Rising
Marcus Smart signing with the Lakers literally did not change their odds to win the NBA championship at all. The line didn't move at all. So Vegas sat back and were like, well, that's cute, but we're not changing anything. Chris Paul signing with the Clippers did not move their odds at all. Right, like so right now as we sit, as I look on ESPN Bet Futures because it was the one that came up first. The Clippers and the lakers are both plus 1600 to win the championship. Oklahoma City is plus 260 plus 260 versus plus 1600. Now, if I had to ask Buck Rising to bet his house on the number of minutes that will be spent the number of minutes that will be spent covering the NBA on all national media platforms combined for Oklahoma City versus the Lakers If I had to bet, I, I think the, the right over under on that would be the lakers will get 10 times more coverage in Oklahoma City. Would you take the over or the under on 10 times more minutes cover.
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Jason Fitz
Over on aggregate over the course of the season. Over over like hell.
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Buck Rising
Yeah, you're right. It's probably like more, a hundred times more.
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Jason Fitz
You know, I mean it's again Fitzy Marcus Smart just received more and greater media coverage than the champion, the reigning champion resigning all three of their top players to basically supermax deals. It's, it's. I've never seen anything quite as as clear and obvious as what's wrong with the way that certain sports leaguers leagues are discussed. Now I do think your your opinion about you don't have to be great to be able to capture people's attention and to or not the greatest. You don't have to be the greatest to be able to capture people's attention the way that you feel like it's required to be the quote unquote face of a league in this way. I think there is no greater or there's no league that suffers from that issue more than the NBA because people don't, don't you don't give them a reason to care about the product when you are not interested in discussing the product itself. That was a frustration that I voiced on, on Fox Sports several times when we were talking about the Celtics and the Knicks and the Pacers and everybody else working their way through the NBA playoffs and when the, when the Pacers finally got to the NBA Finals and I'm turning on ESPN's studio coverage and it's just Stephen A screaming about Kevin Durant being traded to wherever the hell before he ended up landing with the Rockets as opposed to act covering the game giving me the nuances required to understand okay, what actually benefits Oklahoma City in this particular situation. Given what the lineups look like and what the matchups look like and who's beneficial and who's not. Instead of actually talking about basketball, they talk about the stuff around basketball and I think sometimes we can get too guilty of that too. It's. It's incumbent upon. You can't, you can't force people to be interested in something that they're not. And maybe the regular season in the NBA is as good a case of that as any. You just can't. If people aren't out outright basketball fans and aren't going to follow this on a day to day basis, then you're not going to be able to get them, get their attention that way. And you'll have to talk about larger themes. But when you actually get to the basketball being important, like it was in the NBA Finals, and that's still the level of dialogue that you're having around your sport, that's a problem with the coverage, not with the sport itself.
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Buck Rising
Let me ask you this, though. All right? He's buck rising. I'm Jason Fitzwarin for the guys Covino Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so if I make the argument that for Scotty Scheffler to become the face, there's gotta be this moment, right? I wonder. Today, I'll stand by. Today, he's Oklahoma City, he's dominating, and nobody cares. Is there something in the greatness, though, to your point, sustained greatness that takes him from Oklahoma City to Golden State? And I don't know. Like, when Golden State reached this level of sustained greatness, would we have paid as much attention to Golden State if it didn't involve the Durant chapter that suddenly created heroes and villains in such a remark? I don't know. Like, Steph being so dynamic as a personality, is that part of why we suddenly flocked to Golden State? Like, was it the greatness of Golden State that made us pay attention or was it the side drama that went with Golden State that forced people to take a side one way or the other in addition to the greatness? Because certainly I could see Scheffler going from Oklahoma City to Golden State, winning a bunch, a bunch, a bunch, a bunch. And then there's so much dominance. You're like, oh, my God, we got to pay attention. I just don't know if even that sustained greatness is really what we paid attention to or if it was the KD and the Steph and all of those other things.
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Jason Fitz
You have Scotty Scheffler playing for the Golden State Warriors. Is that what just happened?
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Buck Rising
Well, no, I'm just saying that in order to become. In order to go from Oklahoma City, nobody cares to Golden State, everybody cares. Is it just greatness or is it the drama that goes around the greatness that makes it.
- [32:10]
Jason Fitz
Your. Your metaphor was too high level for me. I got lost in translation there.
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Buck Rising
Well, well, that. That's. You're. You're pretty not smart. I mean, the question stands.
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Jason Fitz
I've never argued the opposite. No, I'm just. I'm just here. I'm here for. I'm a show pony, baby. I'm a show pony. That's what it is.
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Buck Rising
You're one of those show. But like, right. I don't know if you've seen the video trending on social media of a, of a tiny horse, a little pony that comes in and it's, they're using it to wake people up from kids that have under anesthesia and it's just running its face across the keyboard, which to me is like, that's, that's hell. That's living hell. Like teach the, teach the pony to play something. I, I like. Don't just let the pony make racket in front of the keyboard. Like I would come in and just. Absolutely. No, I'm out on this. Let. Make the pony play something. Don't just like playing a bunch of arbitrary notes is no different.
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Jason Fitz
Don't put the pony in a, in a, the hospital room in the first place. Just, just get a golden retriever or something like that. Get that poor horse out of there. That's not on the horse, that's on everybody else involved.
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Buck Rising
Save a horse. Ride a cowboy. Save us right now, Isaac. Get us caught up on what's trending and then we'll see if Buck can actually answer the question of what will make relevance. Go ahead. I'll save you by talking about the Cowboys. Thanks to Jerry Jones. As everybody knows, Dallas Cowboys star linebacker Micah Parsons reported to training camp today in Oxnard still without a contract extension amidst a series of eyebrow, eyebrow raising comments about the negotiations that Jerry Jones made today, including this one where Jones refers to Micah Parsons and I'm not making this up, you'll hear it. He refers to Micah Parsons as Michael Parson. Of all the players that I've ever negotiated with, Michael Parsons is as savvy and knowledgeable and understanding of his financial business relative to football as any player I've ever been around. I've been talked with people that have talked to him, let's put it like that. You know, I don't necessarily talk to these agents or I don't necessarily talk to attorneys and I do stuff everywhere and I don't necessarily talk to the people that are hired to do certain things. I talk to the principals 90% of the time. I don't even know where to begin with that. But Michael Parson anyway. Elsewhere, NFL media reported that Green Bay packers right tackle Zach Tom has agreed to a four year, $88 million extension that includes a 30 million signing bonus. That's the largest signing bonus for an offensive lineman in NFL history. Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid announced that offensive tackle Juwan Taylor will begin training camp on the physically unable to perform list. A List no man wants to be on anyway. Finally, in Major League Baseball, multiple outlets report that the Kansas City Royals are calling up 45 year old pitcher Rich Hill for his 21st major league campaign. Jason and Buck, all yours. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. Hanging out with you. I don't even know. I don't know what to make of this. I don't know how to process it. By the way, for over 40 years, Tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tire for how, what and where they drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection with convenience installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. I'm. I'm confused. Like, Buck, I thought we were going to go back to talking about what we were just talking about and Scottish up throwing all these. No. Michael Parson. How? I. I mean, it just gets worse. Every time we go back to what Jerry said, it just gets worse. Like, who's letting him trot out in front of a microphone at this point? This is, this is only getting worse for everybody.
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Jason Fitz
Yeah, but it's his microphone. I mean, what's he gonna do, say no, Jerry. He's gonna, he's gonna have an inner monologue. He's gonna say, no, Jerry, not today.
- [36:10]
Buck Rising
Stage a whole press conference for him. Just make him believe it's real, Let him say whatever he needs, get it out, and then actually hold the real one.
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Jason Fitz
After they have enough money in Dallas to hire extras to put together a faux press conference for Jerry Jones. And then be like, okay, guys, send out a different email to the rest of the media. Be like, we're actually going to meet in this conference.
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Buck Rising
All actor reporters.
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Jason Fitz
Brian. Brian Schottenheimer is going to be like, oh, thank God. We can send him off to the fake press conference. Brian, aren't you coming to the real press conference? No, no, no, Jerry. I've got a couple of different things I got to do with the team. I'll be along later. Don't you worry. You got it. You handle business. You tell him what's up, and you just let Jerry conduct the fake press conference. And everybody else at the same time in a different wing of the Cowboys practice facility in Frisco is conducting the actual press conference so the old man can't say dumb things like, it's. It's just, it's nonsense. Ian, it's the best idea you've ever had. I.
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Buck Rising
Look, I'm thinking about it a lot in the shower. I mean, so years ago, I Played some shows for this country guy, Easton Corbin at the time. And I'll never forget Easton had a acoustic guitar that he always had on stage. And Easton was terrible guitar player. But you couldn't tell Easton that, Like, he had, like, he just thought he, he thought he should be plugged in and he should never have been plugged in. And it was real simple. Like, Easton wasn't aware of it, but his guitar just wasn't on in the house. So, like, he's playing his guitar, but the electronics for the guitar were like, literally the sound guy would just turn his guitar off. So, like, nobody was actually here. So Easton's out there strumming away and he feels like he's really adding something to the show. Thing was never turned on. Like, I love watch. Just, just don't turn Jerry Jones mic on. Just like, let him go out there and just stand there. And then like, you know, I like your idea of a fake press conference. And then, you know, when he goes for his nap, do the real one. I don't know. You stop this. But like, you know, Pawpaw is really just digging a hole for himself here at this point. And it's. It's painful to see because. Buck, you and I have talked about this before, but the worst thing you can feel as a fan isn't your team losing. It's realizing that ownership is too incompetent to do the job anymore. And like, I, I do think that you have to look around when, when Micah Parsons is up for a contract negotiation and in the press conference, the owner can't even get his name right. I lived this as a Raiders fan when Al Davis kept calling Lane Kiffin the wrong name in a press conferen. He was fired. And that was the moment I realized that my owner just shouldn't be trotted out ever. And I knew my team didn't have a chance. Like, it's hard for me not to feel that way for Cowboys fans right.
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Jason Fitz
Now, but there's nothing that's going to change it. Like, where's the Dan Snyder level congressional subpoena that's going to come for Jerry Jones or Al Davis at the time or anybody else? Like, the circumstances that it takes to actually move the needle at the most important position in a franchise, not quarter. It's not a quarterback. It's the ownership. It's the thing that drives people the most insane, that they have the least amount of control over. Because you can play armchair gm, you can put together the best Madden roster humanly possible. You can make all the right decisions on fantasy football or anything else. You can have the perfect plan for your football team to be able to execute in an off season and ought to come in change her or his mind about the way that a certain thing should be running or how they feel about the coach coach on a certain kind of day or which player should be starting over another. Or if you're a Jets fan, maybe allegedly you're taking advice from the the 16 year old child of the owner at the time about the, about the Madden rating of a wide receiver that you might potentially acquire. Like the stuff that actually happens that you couldn't write into a script on Hard Knocks or Ballers or any of these other shows or something like that that people wouldn't actually believe because it is so mind numbingly stupid. I present to you the the most powerful league in North American sports. The NFL. Ownership largely is incompetent when it comes to this. And you know why Fitzy? Because they are the exact kind of thing that you are advocating against. Because they are also fans of this thing. Because they make irrational decisions. Because they think just time spent around the thing without actual expertise gives them the ability to make informed decisions on the product that they think is in the best interest of the product. Because I'm a fan, why wouldn't I make that decision? I know what's best for the team. I know how to do this. I want them to win. Why shouldn't my opinions matter here? I'm trying to help them win. No you're not. Get out of the way.
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Buck Rising
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Jason Fitz
Like, no, no, no, I didn't do it. I didn't bring up Super Bowl 3. I didn't bring up your single digit Super Bowl.
- [42:41]
Buck Rising
Well, actually, I brought up Super Bowl 3. Oh, no, I. I mean, I'm just randomly J E T s Suck, suck, suck. Sorry. And I just. It's just. It's so true, though. It's so true.
- [42:56]
Jason Fitz
All right, they might be all right. I'm, I'm.
- [42:58]
Buck Rising
They've been so. They've been so normal this offseason, though. I've got a little bit of. Made this a Jets segment. You know what? I'm not sure right now, if we're being honest. I'm not sure if you'd rather be a Jets fan or a Raiders fan. I honestly can't answer that. I don't know the answer to it. Or a Cowboys fan. Would you rather. Yeah. Or a Cowboys fan. But I do know that. Would you rather. The single greatest game show in the history of sports talk radio is coming at you next. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's a Buck and Fitz takeover of Covino and Rich.
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Jason Fitz
Yeah.
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Jason Fitz
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Ebony
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- [47:39]
Jason Fitz
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.
- [47:51]
Buck Rising
San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this really the region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch.
- [48:02]
Jason Fitz
And so the succession plan of long.
- [48:03]
Buck Rising
Term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was down definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that gonna be my game, but it was gonna be my life.
- [48:27]
Jason Fitz
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [48:38]
Buck Rising
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartrade radio app, it's a Buck and Fitz takeover of Kavito and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Coming at you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz again. Love to get to hang out with the guys. Appreciate the opportunity to sit in for the Cavino Rich audience. Always love, love the Show. Love listening to it every day. Big shout out to Isaac for keeping us on track. I'm not allowed to say thank you to everybody at the end because Buck says it's disingenuous. But, you know, so I guess I. You know, every time it's like, hey, I. You did a great job. Hey, Iowa. Sam, you did a great job. But because I do it at the end of the show, Buck says it's too formulaic and as a result, lacks sincerity. So, you know, apparently, I apologize for not saying it earlier. I just got to avoid the constant trolling that is Buck rising.
- [49:34]
Jason Fitz
I mean, I just think it's wrong that you don't tell these people that you set an alarm to remind yourself to thank them instead of doing it organically. I think that's a bit disingenuous.
- [49:41]
Buck Rising
Wow. Maybe if you set an alarm, you'd make the next production meeting. Oh, it is time for the.
- [49:50]
Jason Fitz
I don't know. Is there another Isaac that's wandering around back there somewhere? Did he call you Isaac?
- [49:55]
Buck Rising
Now we got Isaac Lo and Cron in here.
- [49:56]
Jason Fitz
Oh, my bad, Isaac.
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Ebony
Yeah.
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Buck Rising
Look, you. You presumed I made a mistake on it. Nonetheless, you know what? Let's get to the game. If you've never heard this before, it is time for wood. You're terrible.
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Jason Fitz
Me?
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Buck Rising
It's easy, guys. Don't think too hard. I'm not a. Would you rather bucket it? It' good or fix it, man, I. I had high hopes because we're in for Covino and Rich, but that might have been your guys's worst all time. Would you rather attempt. Thank you.
- [50:31]
Jason Fitz
Is there, like, a delay that I don't know about? Because I can see him. I can hear him, and there has to be something that I'm missing. I've heard you guys every time.
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Buck Rising
I've heard you nail it before, but.
- [50:41]
Jason Fitz
Yeah.
- [50:42]
Buck Rising
Anyway, let's jump right into the game here. We'll start with this one. Would you rather. Would you rather grow a new eyebrow every time you tell a lie or shed glitter from your ear when you're stressed?
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Jason Fitz
Oh, no. I was gonna say, well, the glitter. No, no sweat. But I feel like the. The. The stress levels. Instead of, like, looking like my blood pressure is too high and, like, blood or steam spouting from my ears, every time I get pissed about something that an inept NFL organization does, I feel like the. The. I feel like I have more control over growing or not growing the eyebrow. All I have to do is just not lock.
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Buck Rising
Yeah. Okay, so the most stressful thing in the world for me is three hours every Sunday when I watch my beloved raiders get the snot kicked out of them. The thought of having glitter condescendingly trip out of my ears during that entire process. While it taunts me, I need none of that. Look, I'll take the eyebrow, and I will just. I will just live like, I'm on liar Liar. I will be brutally honest with everybody. And look, if I'm not, I'll just grow the eyebrow and be like, back off. But there is no way that I need to add insult to injury but by having glitter pour out of my ears while the raiders find a way to break my heart every Sunday. Think about how much glitter that is. That's a lot to clean up.
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Jason Fitz
So much glitter.
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Buck Rising
Glitter hard to clean up, too. Oh, well, it's a sad cleanup, too, because you're, like, lost by three touchdowns. Going to sweep up my glitter.
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Jason Fitz
It looks like a celebration, but really, it's sadness.
- [52:13]
Buck Rising
I guess. Eyebrows, you can at least shave.
- [52:14]
Jason Fitz
I don't know.
- [52:15]
Buck Rising
Whatever. We're getting too into the weeds here. Next up, would you rather be able to teleport, but only into closets, or would you rather be able to fly, but only at a walking pace and while screaming, I'm gonna fly at a walking pace while screaming. Because here's the thing. Teleporting into a closet is an ultimate level of creepy that's gonna get your ass kicked at some point, and I don't need that. I don't need to teleport into the wrong closet and then all of a sudden, try and explain to somebody that I've got a teleportation machine that only gets me into a closet. If I'm flying at a walking pace and screaming while I do it, I'll embrace that. I'll wear a Superman outfit. Like, I'll be all over TMZ right away. Like, look, I'm gonna make that into my whole stick. And I'm gonna, like, go right over. Like, every time Buck is on a date, I'm just gonna go out there, and I'm gonna fly at a walking pace right over the restaurant the entire time, screaming the whole way. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna ruin his life dragging one of those. Dragging one of those signs the planes have. Like, hi, Buck. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Jason Fitz
If you don't, I'll have phone number.
- [53:16]
Buck Rising
On a sheet that says, text me. I'm lonely. Go ahead.
- [53:19]
Jason Fitz
Well, that sounds about right. I. I'll take the closet. Transportation. Nothing pisses me off. I just got. I just Got back from a trip to California. Nothing bothers me more than airports. If I can avoid airports, I'll risk the rare ass kicking by popping up in somebody's closet unexpectedly just to save myself the time.
- [53:38]
Buck Rising
All right, I like this one. I like this one. Would you rather have a beard that whispers conspiracy theories or a belly button that plays elevator music at full volume while. When touched.
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Jason Fitz
When touched, though is the key word there, right? Somebody gotta, like, press it like an on off button. So on the rare chance that somebody gets close enough to your navel to fire off some. Fire off some tunes or something like that. Yeah, the beard whispering conspiracy that we got too many people with beards whispering conspiracy theories. Anyway, I feel like the belly button thing is probably the safer option.
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Buck Rising
Scottish effort. Yeah, the bell. I mean, look, the belly button is way safer because that's also a party trick. Like, depending on what you're up to, you'd be like, hey, you want to press my belly button? And, like, hey, that. That makes things a little weird. Things.
- [54:25]
Jason Fitz
You also can't pull my finger, I guess.
- [54:27]
Buck Rising
You want to press my belly button? Like, nobody ever feels good about that if it gets whispered. But, yeah, I'm in for the belly button push. All right, well, we'll end with this one. Would you rather uncontrollably narrate your dreams aloud while sleeping or have a squirrel appear and judge you silently every time you make a decision? But I'll take the judgy squirrel, like, all day. I'll take the judges, and I'll have a whole conversation with, no. I don't want to take the chance that, like, I'm having a weird dream, and then all of a sudden, I'm narrating that out for, like. You could record it, though a long time, Buck. Like, you people could hear that. I don't want that.
- [54:59]
Jason Fitz
You talk about the attention economy. You can, like Ian said, record it, put it on Tick tock, Go super famous, become the next owner of the Dallas Cowboys, baby. Look at that. Full circle.
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Buck Rising
No, I'm gonna. I'm gonna let that squirrel stand and judge me, and I'm gonna put that on Tick tock. It's judging squirrel.com. i'll make a. No, the whole thing. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. We appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Stick with Fox Sports Radio all day long. Thanks for hanging out with Buck and Fitz.
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Jason Fitz
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Buck Rising
San Diego. Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer. Because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team, we need to embrace this community.
- [55:46]
Jason Fitz
Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [55:57]
Ebony
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