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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Seton O'Connor
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We'll recap the Baseball hall of Fame as well and the Dion Sanders Health press conference coming up later on this Morning. 8773 DP show email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Let me start with Dion because we did reach out to Colorado, see if we could have Dion on and they said you know, not at this time. Now it feels like it sounds like it's been described as being a health update press conference for Deon Sanders. And if you go back to 2021, he had two toes amputated. He had surgery for blood clots on his left leg in 2023. He got a little testy at the Big 12 media day earlier this month. When asked about his health issue, he downplayed that. He had comments espn where he downplayed the health concerns. But he has sent out mixed messages, whether it's through one of his sons or a former player, Asante Samuel. And it feels like this is a very, very important press conference for Dion now. Important because maybe he can continue to be the head coach at Colorado. But there is also the possibility. There has been speculation, and that's why I'm going to be very careful when I say this, that maybe he's not able to coach again or maybe he would have to leave the sidelines and maybe coach in the press box. Once again, all of this speculation. Dion has downplayed his health issues, but there have been other people in his inner circle who have spoken about this. I'll go back to a Super Bowl. I think that was in Minnesota, in Minneapolis. And Deon took off his shoes and he took off his socks and he showed us his toes. He had turf toe. His toes were mangled up now. I don't know. Once again, they were. He. He had a couple of toes amputated and has blood clots as well. Just start there. The blood clots. That's serious. You know, we've seen that with athletes recently. We've seen that with athletes. Victor Rem Benyama with blood clots shut him down. So I don't know if this is going to impact Dion, impact him in a way that he wouldn't be able to coach or impact how he coaches. But that's probably going to be about three hours from now. So the show will be over when Deion holds this press conference. And from what I'm told, he will be holding a press conference with his medical team. This isn't a football press conference from the standpoint of let's talk about the Buffaloes in the upcoming season. This is about Deion Sanders. So we can only hope that it's positive news. There have been two websites that have already jumped to the conclusion that Dion will retire. Once again, I'm gonna just tell you about the speculation here, and there is no. It doesn't feel like there's any real hard facts that would Lead me to believe one way or another what's going to happen with Dion. So keep an eye on that hope for the best for Dion and as well, NFL camp. Not much going on. I did love that ESPN was at the commander's camp. And you want to talk about a whole different attitude of feeling when Daniel Snyder was there. It just felt like it was always a cloud over that franchise. You know, he's charging you to go to watch them practice. This just feels different now. They got Terry McLaurin back in camp, which is important, but it's a hold in. He still hasn't gotten his contract settled yet. But with Jaden Daniels, there's nothing like a franchise that has a quarterback where the fan base goes. Yes. And that's what you have with the commanders and. And once again trying to drive anything out of these training camps. I'm looking for the feel of it. I want. I want everybody in camp. I want to make sure everybody gets through camp and preseason without injuries. And you want to know what is the vibe there like? I'm still trying to figure out the vibe with the Steelers because of Aaron Rodgers, but you are all in. T.J. watt is in D.K. metcalf. Like you've. You've made some moves there and now you bring in Aaron Rodgers. Okay. But I still don't know what that vibe is because all of a sudden you have the Aaron Rodgers talking about Terry Bradshaw with what Terry Bradshaw said about Aaron Rodgers. And then once again, it's always these side stories that you're trying to avoid. You just want to go straight ahead, right down Main Street. You're not going to take the scenic route here. Just get through training camp. But the commanders, man, you got to feel good about that. Got your coach showing up. You got his hat on backwards going on espn. The crowd's going crazy. Jaden Daniels comes over. He's saying hi to the kids like it was. Hey, it here's a PR day for the Washington commanders. But it was fun to see. It was great to see. All right, Satan, what's poll question? We have at least starting out first hour. We're going to start off with this one NFL training camp with the most hope. Hope. Okay. We might be starting the Hopeometer today. Okay. Hope. Well, it feels like there's varying degrees of hope because if I start with the Panthers, what is the hope there? If I start with the Chargers, what's the hope there? Playoffs, AFC title games, super bowl, question mark. What is the hope that's hopeful? The Rams. The hope is Matthew Stafford can stay healthy because if he does, I think that they're going to be in the playoffs and a legitimate threat. We saw what they nearly pulled off with the Eagles. What is the hope? The hope with the Eagles is let's just get through camp, let's stay healthy. The Bengals, the hope is that you get Trey Hendrickson in. So varying degrees of hope for an individual or hope for the team, you know, the Cowboys, I guess the hope would be that you clean up the Micah Parsons mess that you have that continues. Are you looking at Team Seaton, you know, with the hope of their fan base of how they're going to do well? Yeah. Why don't we start with. You started talking about the Commanders early this morning. Okay. Right. A lot of hope right there. Through the roof, I would imagine. Yes, yes, yes. How about the Patriots? Yeah, you got Mike Vrabel, great coach. You got your quarterback. Feels like there's a little momentum. Although don't you fall victim to the hype videos and shows that they put out with the Patriots? Oh, me? Yeah. Oh, I'm a sucker for any hype video. Yeah, yeah, I know. The Patriots have this thing out right now called like Forged in Foxborough, I think it is. And it is nothing but a 30 minute hype video. And you're like, Mike Rabel might be the best coach ever. Yeah. Every random dude they got like, look, and now Ali Shakatelli came in. He's gotta be a great lineman. Oh my God, have you seen this guy? That is not, not an actual person, but I know what you're saying. It feels like if they, they show anybody in slow motion that they automatically become great. When you, you're showing these videos and you're seeing and it just feels like, you know, the announcer's voice goes down a little bit lower than that. The silver and black clad masters of intimidation. Yes. Marvin.
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Paul Pabst
Yeah.
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Marvin
I don't care how sorry a team is, but if you see a highlight package right before they come out on.
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Paul Pabst
The field even though they're 0 and 14 and it's.
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Seton O'Connor
I can feel it coming any. Oh, Lord. Speaking of. Well, the Raiders Pete Carroll head coach talking about his goals for his team, we have extremely high expectations. You know, I don't even know any other way to think. And I don't care what year it is or what team it is, it doesn't matter to me. I mean, this is either going for it or you're not. And that's we're going for it. And however that whatever that means at the End of it, we'll find out. But in the meantime, there is no, no standard that we can set high enough that we can't challenge for. And so we're going for it, like I said. And these guys are on board. They get it. Okay. They're going forward. Okay. Like they're hope worthy, you know, I mean, you're in a really tough division, but yeah, there's hope. But that's the beauty of the NFL because all it takes is, hey, we could be this year's commanders. Well, you can't be. If you have Jaden Daniels, then maybe you could be this year's commanders. And can you win all of these one score games? Can you win in the last two minutes, which is what the commanders pulled off. But I love the feeling of hope with some of these teams, like the Atlanta Falcons. Hope. But I just don't know. Like sometimes you have to go, okay, I got questions here and I got a hope here. So what, where, where's, where's it going? Does it level off there? That the questions and the hope, they're going to match each other and we're going to be okay? Yes, Marvin.
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Marvin
And the hope, the hope meter goes by how tough your division is.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah.
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Paul Pabst
So if you're in the NFC south, you're like nine games.
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Marvin
We can do this.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah. Also, Arthur Blank, he is the owner of the Atlanta Falcons, talking about how he thinks we're going to eventually get to Every team is going to play a game outside the United States, which I'm not big on exporting everything that we have. I don't like when baseball opens up in Japan opening day, but I do think it's fair. If you're gonna, if you, you have to make it fair for everybody, a level playing field that, hey, you're going to be playing one or two games outside the United States. That team doesn't have to play any. I think they're trying to grow the game. I think that's why they're all in on flag football, because that can be played around the world. They're trying to grow the game. And I said this, and I got this on good authority from somebody with the NFL. They're going to get to the 18th game. The 18th game is basically going to be a complete TV package, a separate TV package of you have the international games. And that's how they're going to sell this. You're going to get to an 18th game. It may not happen, you know, over the next two years, but we'll get to 18 games. Every team will have a home base outside the United States. You know, Pittsburgh's going to be in Dublin. You're. You have team, you know, Germany for the Chiefs. You're going to have Brazil with the Eagles, maybe Mexico City. Everybody's going to have one of these places. The Jags in London. That's how they want to grow the game, export it. And then those cities, those countries will embrace that team. That will be their team. So it's not just Jacksonville's playing in London, but also you have owners who have soccer franchises around the world. And they're probably saying, hey, I can get my NFL team into my soccer stadium and get a couple of bites of the apple here. So this is what's going on. The question is, when does it happen? It's not if, but when. And when it does, they're going to make even more money because they'll sell this as a separate TV package.
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Todd Fritz
Yes, Paulie, one other team I would like to throw on the hope meter. How about the Denver Broncos? You know, they finally cleaned up their quarterback situation. Bo Nix, I know you got to get past the Chiefs, but hope? They haven't had hope in a couple years.
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Seton O'Connor
Felt like they overachieved last year.
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Todd Fritz
Oh, you're a hope killer.
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Seton O'Connor
Don't be a hope killer.
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Todd Fritz
Yeah, I didn't know what you're saying.
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Seton O'Connor
I'm going hope solo here.
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Todd Fritz
Yes.
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Seton O'Connor
That I'm not all in with Denver and Washington, even though they got their quarterbacks and I like their coaches and the vibe is really good. It's just sometimes you look at a team and you go, how did they get to that many wins? And it's weird. I felt like the Broncos got to that win total maybe a little more legitimately than Washington did, but Washington came up big when they needed to. It's just. That's not sustainable. And I hate bringing this up, you know, but I do bring up the fact that they're winning these really close games in the final minute or so. It's really hard to continue to do that. Unless you're the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes.
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Paul Pabst
Todd, is it a sophomore slump thing, or is it that you get figured out after the first year now that there's video on these guys and adjustments are made and all of a sudden they're not as shocking and surprised to see what they're going to do Year two?
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Seton O'Connor
Yes, both of those things. Thank you. It's like the Texans. It just didn't feel like they were going to be better this past year with the previous year. And C.J. stroud was wonderful, but, man, it's tough that second year after you surprise people. It's like when a pitcher goes through the lineup one time and all of a sudden he's like, man, I'm dominating. Then all of a sudden you go through the second time in the lineup and you don't make it all the way through. They get a book on you and you have to. Bo Nicks will have tells tendencies, you know, now it'll be different. The game plan will be different. And I think that's where you want to see this second year for a lot of these teams are quarterbacks. That's what, you know, Drake may do. You take the next step up. Do defenses figure you out a little bit more? It's a chess game. It's a constant chess game. All right, let me take a break. We got phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. A lot of positive responses to Happy Gilmore too. So thank you. No spoilers here. I hope you enjoy the movie. Didn't hear from a lot of people. Enjoyed the mustache and a couple of sneaky scenes in there. I got a little more movie time than I thought I was going to. And I did send a note to Sandman. I said thank you, you know, because a lot of that stuff just ends up in the editing room. And, you know, I hate to see maybe an Oscar worthy performance fall to the wayside, but, I mean, that'll be up to the Academy once again. That'd be weird, though, if I win an Academy Award, but I can't win a sports Emmy. Yes, yes. Seaton, Is there a minimum number of minutes on screen an actor has to have in order to be considered for an Oscar? I think let's do a little research on that. But I will say a lot of people got one cameo. I didn't have one cameo. Like I had a role in this movie. Recurring cameo. Yeah. Is that a new. No wonder it wasn't a recurring cameo because it, to me, it was a role. Like, you know, Chris Berman and Stephen A. Smith. It felt like that was a cameo. Mine was a role. You were playing a part. I was. Yeah, you were. I was not playing myself. They were playing themselves. Once again, no spoilers.
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Todd Fritz
Yes, Paul, for example, Anthony Hopkins, the great actor in Silence of the lambs, only 16 minutes of screen time. One best supporting actor.
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Seton O'Connor
Well, I'm not on 16 minutes. I'm probably on maybe three, four minutes. Strong. Four minutes. Thank you. Strong. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It was a stretch for me in my role, but then hashtag actor. Take a break. We'll talk to Gronk next hour. We'll get to your phone calls coming up and we'll settle on a poll question. All of that right after this. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubberlip. Blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it cause you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships and and if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go, Overpromising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join Us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
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Rob Gronkowski
Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
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Seton O'Connor
I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
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Rob Gronkowski
I'm Danielle Robaix and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers and more to explore the stories that shape us on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving booktok theories and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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Seton O'Connor
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Dan Patrick
Left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News. It's Teddy Escapes Blonde Drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future. Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become President?
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Seton O'Connor
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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Dan Patrick
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
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Seton O'Connor
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Dan Patrick
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Seton O'Connor
American history is full of wise people. Walt Whitman said something like 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
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Dan Patrick
Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down.
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Paul Pabst
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.
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Marvin
Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this.
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Seton O'Connor
Proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
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Paul Pabst
Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Seton O'Connor
Oh my God. The play of the day. This is the play of the. Check this out. Swinging a drive deep to left. He's done it four times. What a magical night for the Big Amish. Smoothest butter, baby. Shout it out.
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Marvin
Incredible. Simply incredible.
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Seton O'Connor
That's courtesy of NBC Sports California. Nick Kurtz plays for the A's and he had four home runs. He went 6 for 6. He had eight RBI's. It might be the greatest offensive performance in a single game in baseball history. Now you could bring up other players, but hitting four home runs, going six for six, he's a rookie. Eight RBIs. He, he had a 380 foot double, I think as well. In five or six other parks, that would have been a home run. He would have had five home runs and scored six runs in a game. Fourth overall pick in the 2024 draft. And he has 43 extra base hits through his first 66 career games since 1900. There's only one other player who's done that. Joe DiMaggio. That's your play of the day. Play of the day. Play of the day. Brought to you by the great folks at Mako. Most cars on the road could use little TLC at Mako. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs like collision repairs Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. All right, update the poll results if you can, Seton. And we'll discuss the North Carolina Tar Heels football schedule because America get ready for a large dose of Bill Belichick and the Tar Heels. We've got the hope Ometer going up there. Right now we have it split between the AFC and the NFC. Okay. Only teams that were under.500 last year. Okay. Okay. So the AFC, you have dolphins, Jets, Patriots, Browns, Colts, jaguars, titans, raiders. NFC, you have bears, cowboys, giants, falcons, panthers, saints, cardinals, 49ers going up there right now@danpatrick.com all right. Hope ometer. Yeah, it's very exciting, you know, like the Miami Dolphins. My hope is that you are better because if not, then I wonder, you're going to move on from your head coach. Can Tua stay healthy? I think he said one season that he stayed healthy. Tyreek Hill, is he there for the long haul? So it feels like there's a whole lot riding on the Miami Dolphins, North Carolina Tar Heels, Bill Belichick's first year there. I think there were players and coaches asked if Bill Belichick's girlfriend or his relationship with this younger woman is a distraction, and they said no. Everybody said no, it wasn't. Who is going to say at North Carolina, one of your players or one of your coaches going to go, yeah, it's a distraction. Hey, really? And we asked everybody and we said, do you think it'll be a distraction? No, not at all. Wow, that's some really good reporting there. Okay, North Carolina, do they have how many games will be nationally televised? Paulie?
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Todd Fritz
Yeah, a couple different reports over the weekend said they're going to be have at least 10 nationally televised games in different day parts. They start the season, they host TCU on ESPN, the Big ESPN, September 1, Monday night, 8pm Eastern. So that's a standalone before the NFL season starts. But then they have games against like UCF, Clemson, Cal, Virginia, Syracuse, Stanford, Duke. All of them are going to be floated to ESPN or some other national outlet.
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Seton O'Connor
Okay. But here's my take on, you know, it's one thing to have Bill Belichick on the sidelines. He's not exciting. I just want to know, is your team any good? Because they can only show you so many times and then what are they really showing you? It's the same look that you had with Deion. Dion was animated. He had the shades on, had the beard gone. He had Travis Hunter, he had Shador Sanders. Now you had excitement there that, yes, Dion on the sidelines and. And then Colorado and the product they put on the field. How many times you tune in to see a coach and how long do you tune in to see that coach?
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Todd Fritz
Yeah, Paulie, I was thinking about this, because when Dion took over Colorado, they were really bad. I think maybe 1 in 11 or 1 in 12. Do you think the average sports fan is rooting for Bill Belichick to do very well or flame out?
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Seton O'Connor
Flame out.
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Todd Fritz
It feels like that, yeah.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah. Because this. Now, there's a lot of things that are tied into this just from me on the outside looking in. You start with his relationship with this woman and what people will feel about that. You have the. Oh, the greatest coach of all time. And look what happened when Tom left. They were terrible. Oh, you. You're gonna bring your genius to college football. Okay, let's see what you got. So I think there's already that kind of. All right, let me see. Let me see what you got. Let me see how much of a genius you really are. Because he was in the NFL with the Cleveland Browns, and that didn't go well. Like, we. We look at this and like, Spurrier goes to the NFL, and we're like, okay, see what you got. And then it doesn't go well, going from, you know, the NFL to college football. And it feels like every year we'll say something about a player at North Carolina. Like, they always. It feels like you got somebody who's going to be ranked pretty high. They're going to be, you know, they're going to be singled out. Drake May, man, I mean, they. They've had players down through history. And then you go, wow. Oh, Julius Peppers. That's right. He went to North Carolina. Lawrence Taylor went there. Did Albert Haynesworth go to North Carolina as well? Yes. I mean, they've had these players. They just haven't had a great program. And now you got Bill coming in there, and I don't know what the over under is, but they were a bold team. I think two of the last three years with Mack Brown, they should be good. And you're in the acc. I don't think it's too hard to stand out, but gonna be a lot of North Carolina football. Yes, Marvin, North Carolina football.
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Marvin
Okay. The only thing I'm looking forward to is what type of shoes is he going to be wearing, what type of Air Jordans he's going to be wearing? He's probably going to pick out the most dull pair of Air Jordans you could possibly find.
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Seton O'Connor
Black on black. Did they have black on black.
- [34:16]
Paul Pabst
I'm sure they do.
- [34:16]
Marvin
But he'll probably be like gray.
- [34:20]
Seton O'Connor
No. Because his girlfriend is going to dress him up.
- [34:23]
Paul Pabst
Think so?
- [34:24]
Seton O'Connor
Yes. Yeah. I think that she's going to try to spiff up his image a little bit there. Be like built. We need to wear the cutoff hoodie. It's kind of my calling card. I feel comfortable in it. I know, but you're on national tv. Come on, let me comb your hair. And how about a, how about a, you know, a North Carolina blue hoodie? Okay. How about that? Yeah. Paul the day after he get, he.
- [34:49]
Todd Fritz
Got hired, we said he should have a UNC cutoff hoodie and they should put it on the website and sell it for everybody should wear it.
- [34:56]
Seton O'Connor
Great. Yeah. So opens up the season. National tv. Monday night standalone game. Is his girlfriend shown on TV that first game? Todd.
- [35:16]
Paul Pabst
I'm gonna say no.
- [35:17]
Seton O'Connor
All right. Satan. Yes. 100. Marvin.
- [35:22]
Paul Pabst
I don't even think she's there.
- [35:24]
Seton O'Connor
Paul.
- [35:25]
Todd Fritz
No, by design.
- [35:28]
Seton O'Connor
Not by her design. I don't think so. Pretty sure she's directing this. She'll be in the TV truck.
- [35:36]
Paul Pabst
Take me. Stand by me. Take me.
- [35:40]
Seton O'Connor
Rob Gronkowski set to join us. Coming up next hour, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
- [35:57]
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- [37:56]
Rob Gronkowski
Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
- [38:05]
Seton O'Connor
I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
- [38:09]
Rob Gronkowski
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- [38:57]
Dan Patrick
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
- [39:01]
Seton O'Connor
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
- [39:07]
Dan Patrick
Left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's teddy Escapes, Blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
- [39:24]
Seton O'Connor
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
- [39:29]
Dan Patrick
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
- [39:32]
Seton O'Connor
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
- [39:42]
Dan Patrick
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [39:53]
Seton O'Connor
American history is full of wise people. Walt, woman said something like no, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
- [40:04]
Dan Patrick
Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down.
- [40:10]
Paul Pabst
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.
- [40:22]
Marvin
Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this.
- [40:30]
Seton O'Connor
Proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
- [40:41]
Paul Pabst
Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:52]
Seton O'Connor
Big shout out to Fontainebleau Hotel in Las Vegas. They took care of Dylan the graphics guy, Shea and Irving as they went out there to cash their winnings because they had Saquon Barkley being named the offensive player of the year and they ended up winning $2,200 on that ticket and they came home with money as well. That fountain blue took care of those guys. Rob Gronkowski, four time super bowl champ and contributor to Fox NFL Sunday, is the ambassador for the T mobile Friday night 5G lights and it's a competition high school football nationwide celebration of hometown pride. T Mobile is all involved. Gronk will talk to us about that. Good to see you, Rob. What is the what was the goal of veterans when you went to training camp?
- [41:42]
Marvin
Oh, the goal of veterans is to show the younger players the way, you know, be the leader out there out on the football field and get that chemistry going with in, you know, the team within the organization and go out there and show everyone how it's done out on the football field and try to find ways to get better. Because you can make big jumps from your rookie year to your second year. But when you're a vet, you got to find those little tiny details that can, you know, make your game just a little bit better. Compared to when a rookie is going into a second year, you see big improvement, but you just got to find those ways to stay in the league and and be better so you can stick around.
- [42:26]
Seton O'Connor
Okay, but tell me what you didn't know your rookie year.
- [42:30]
Marvin
The playbook. I can tell you that that was number one. Also understanding defenses. You know, you can go over defenses in meetings and understand what cloud coverage is, what Cover 2 coverage is, but to truly understand a defense, you got to get repetitions out on the football field you got to be able to go against that type of speed because it's different from when you're in college. When you get to the NFL, man, it's like everything's going so fast. And I remember that my first time I stepped down the football field, I was like, how am I going to deal with this? Everything's just racing in my mind. These linebackers are so fast. Usually I'm so much faster than everyone else. So it's about getting the repetitions and the reps and going out there and having the game slow down for you and getting the feel of the defenders out on the football field.
- [43:19]
Seton O'Connor
Give me the defender you had to keep your eye out for.
- [43:24]
Marvin
Like I'm on my team or the opposition, just, you know, going against another team. Okay. I mean, I always had a battle with myself. That's what I always said. If I was on point and I was feeling my game, I felt like I could go against anyone else at any other time and dominate, you know. But if I wasn't on point, if I wasn't feeling myself, if I wasn't, I would say activated, you know, and going full go and I was feeling slow. I felt like I could get covered by any single person in the league. There was one time in training camp, I think it was my eighth year going into training camp with the New England Patriots, and I was getting covered by undrafted free agents just because I wasn't feeling myself, my body wasn't cooperating with me. So the NFL is a lot more, you know, a battle against yourself on a daily basis. It's hard to be up every single day, you know, especially with the beating that you can take. You want to be activated, you want the muscles firing, and when they're not, I feel like anyone can cover you at any given time, but just opponents wise, I would say. In the run blocking game, though, Terrell Suggs was an absolute monster, absolute beast. And it's not because he was just so strong, you know, and, and scary looking. It's because he brought it every single play and he had that burst off the ball and. And same with Von Miller. That dude was impossible to get your hands on because he was just so quick and that burst was just so lethal that, you know, he had the advantage there.
- [44:54]
Seton O'Connor
What is Travis Kelsey battling this year?
- [44:58]
Marvin
Travis Kelsey, what is he battling this year? I would say he wants to win football games, that's for sure. He wants to win another championship before he retires. So he wants to get back to the super bowl, which is a tough task. To do. They've already done it three years in a row. Are they going to do it four years in a row? They have a chance for sure. I would also say that he wants to go out there. I mean, I don't know. I don't know, you know him personally like that. That and I can't really speak for him. But after watching, you know, last year in the Super Bowl, I feel like he wants to go out there and prove to everyone that he still has a lot left in the tank and he can go out there, compete at a high level, which I truly believe he will or else he wouldn't have came back to play football again this year.
- [45:45]
Seton O'Connor
But at that position, how much of it is just understanding body position? He's not going to be running by guys the way he once did. So now it comes down to football IQ of how smart I can be. And I don't know how much that plays or played for you when you played that position later in your career.
- [46:06]
Marvin
Well, that's kind of going back to your first question, Dan, is when you were talking about what does a veteran do going into a training camp. Well, it's finding the little niches to stay around even though your skills aren't up to par compared to when you were 23, 24 years old. And that happened to me my last couple years, especially down in Tampa. It was just knowing the niche of the game, knowing the defenses, knowing where to be in zone coverage. Yeah, I wasn't running by anyone and my stats weren't particularly like they were when I was younger. But guess what, I was still contributing because I was blocking guys and also I was finding the spot space in the zone and making the plays where my number was called. Travis Kelce. Yeah, he probably won't be making moves like he was back, you know, four or five years ago, but the guy knows the game of football. He's such a smart football player and he has that connection and chemistry with Patrick Mahomes as well. And that's what keeps him going. Every once in a while I'm sure he's going to feel himself and have that boost to get and to get by someone and run by someone. But overall, I would say his smarts of the game of football is what keeps them around and what keeps them at 80 plus catches by just finding the hole and sitting down and just catching it and going up the field for a first down.
- [47:15]
Seton O'Connor
Rob Gronkowski, four time super bowl champ. Joining us, what super bowl ring would you wear to the hall of Fame when you're inducted.
- [47:23]
Marvin
Yeah, I would definitely wear my first super bowl ring to the hall of Fame. When we beat the Seattle Seahawks In Super Bowl 49, it was hands down one of the best super bowl games to be played with. We were down, we came back, the Seattle Seahawks came back when we got up on them. And then the final drive, obviously with the Malcolm Butler interception to seal the deal, I contributed. I had a touchdown going into the first half in the two minute drill. Amendola had a touchdown. Julian had a touchdown. Our boy Shane Vereen out of the backfield had like 10 catches. So it was an overall great team win. And on top of it, it was one of the best Super Bowls out there. And it got me into the super bowl club.
- [48:04]
Seton O'Connor
But how surprised were you to be on the sidelines watching Seattle throw that pass as opposed to give it to Marshawn Lynch?
- [48:12]
Marvin
Well, you got to give credit to Dante Hightower, who has the biggest calves in the NFL when he was playing, that they ran a similar. They ran a play where they handed it off the beast mode right before that. And Dante Hightower made the tackle one on one on beast modes, which is very, very rare. But Dante Hightower is such a beast as well that he was able to bring him down. So that maybe kind of switch up the play call for that final play that they had because he already got tackled on the two yard line from Dante Hightower, I mean, to throw the ball as well. We were just prepared. Coach Belichick showed Malcolm Butler that play plenty of times with within the weeks following up to the Super Bowl. So we were just a better prepared team. And that's when Coach Belichick's coaching comes credit is because he had Malcolm Butler prepared for that play. And that's why Malcolm Butler made that spectacular move to have that interception.
- [49:07]
Seton O'Connor
Wait, Dante Hightower has the biggest cabs in NFL.
- [49:11]
Marvin
He has monster cabs. Yes, monster.
- [49:16]
Seton O'Connor
Were you jealous of his Cavs, Julian?
- [49:19]
Marvin
Sure was.
- [49:20]
Seton O'Connor
He talked about every single day. Did you ever think that we would see this many pictures of Brady with his shirt off in. In retirement?
- [49:28]
Marvin
No, I would have never thought that. He was always a little bit nervous to even take his shirt off in the locker room. He had more of a dad bod when he was playing, but like he. I feel like he got like trimmed up a little bit. He kind of has a six pack. All that baby fat and plain fat that he had is totally off him and he's looking good. He's wor. I think he changed up his workout resume too like regime. And he's like lifting I think more weights now so he looks better so he can show it off. Man, he look, he's looking good right now for 60 years old.
- [50:02]
Seton O'Connor
60. But he, he's on a yacht every, every week.
- [50:06]
Marvin
It feels like, I mean he deserves it. I mean he put in 25 plus years in the NFL. You know, he deserves to be on a yacht every, every single day.
- [50:16]
Seton O'Connor
I love what you're doing with T mobile the Friday night 5G light. So explain the competition and what's at stake here.
- [50:23]
Marvin
Yes. T Mobile 5, Friday night 5G lights is back and we're taking it to a whole nother level. And it's its second year with more winners, more prizes, and ultimately more ways to showcase hometown pride and empower communities. And what T Mobile is doing is that if you're a small town high school, you can enter these, this, these stakes to be able to win prizes from T Mobile. And T Mobile is giving away to 25 different high schools. $25,000. 450 schools, high schools will be receiving $5,000. And if you win the, the grand prize for Friday night 5G lights, you will win over a million dollars in prizes, which is ultimately a brand new high school football stadium, a brand new Gronk Fitness weight room as well. You know, Gronk Fitness, you got to plug my, my family's product right there and you got to stay strong and you past using our equipment. So if you want more details about it, go to Friday night5Glights.com to enter. And it's just such a spectacular program that T Mobile is doing to just help out these high school athletes.
- [51:36]
Seton O'Connor
You know, you brought up Dante Hightower with that stop on beast mode. But then Hightower has the sack on Matt Ryan in the super bowl as well, right?
- [51:45]
Marvin
Yeah, he. We called Dante Hightower playoff Dante playoffs. Or it was, it was something like that. Playoff Dante because he showed up every single time the playoffs came. If he was in the training room, you know, in the regular season a little bit, it didn't matter. We knew that we could count on Dante Hightower and he came through in Atlanta versus the Atlanta Falcons in that Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I didn't play in that one. I was having a great year. And then I went up to see him and Earl Thomas, the absolute missile of a guy that he is, he hit me when I was going up to see him full speed and punctured my lung and, and broke my back basically in half. So I was out for that super bowl and Then obviously he came through in the Super Bowl 49 as well when he, he stopped beast mode.
- [52:31]
Seton O'Connor
I know you got your podcast with Julian Edelman. I, I was. I still can hear Cam Chancellor hit Edelman when he made the catch, you know, going, going over the middle, and then he ended up running like what, seven yards after that. It's one of the hardest hits that I've heard. Gronk and Edelman said he wasn't concussed. I still think he had a concussion.
- [52:58]
Marvin
Put it this way, that just shows, you know, what type of player Julian Adelman is. It just shows his toughness as well. He got absolutely cremated across the middle by one of the hardest hitting safeties, and not just hardest hitting safeties, one of the biggest safeties and athletic safeties to play the game of football. And he got right up to keep on running. That just shows how trained and how programmed that he is and how bad that he wants to win, you know, the game of, you know, win the games when he's playing the game of football, especially with the super bowl on the line, I think he got concussed as well. But Julian Edelman is an absolute fighter and an absolute dog, and that's why he has three super bowl rings as well.
- [53:40]
Seton O'Connor
Well, he ended up having that catch against Atlanta, the ricochet that was. I mean, so we're talking about, you know, Brady and Belichick get all the credit and, you know, they should get most of it. But you're talking about other players who make these small. Malcolm Butler, like these small little things. You, you know, Amendola, like, that's what sometimes I think gets lost with great teams is having the other people that fill in kind of, you know, the gray area there.
- [54:09]
Marvin
Yeah, definitely in, you know, but we, we've all gotten plenty of credit and, and we're all not looking for more credit because we receive plenty of credit as well. Julian Edelman receives plenty of credit. Amendola. Every time we see each other, we reminisce about our championships and about playing together. But I just want to go back to that catch as well with Julian Edelman with the Atlanta Falcons. And also you saw him get leveled by Cam Chancellor. Basically concussion, keep going. That just shows the determination that Julian Adelman has. You see other guys in playoffs, they don't come through with that little. With that catch that they need to. To keep that drive going in the fourth quarter. I'm not going to bring up any situations, but it happened a couple times last year in the playoffs. But a guy who wants to win who wants it so bad and he just digging for it and doesn't want to go lose, go back to that locker room losing. That's a guy like Julian Edelman. And when you're determined like that, you're going to make those plays and you're going to make that catch to keep the drive going. And it's because Julian Edelman wanted it more than anyone else. So thank you, Julian, for coming through in those situations.
- [55:23]
Seton O'Connor
How many North Carolina football games are you going to go to this year?
- [55:26]
Marvin
It's going to be tough because I'm obviously doing the Fox pregame show this year, so I'll be definitely tuning in. No doubt about that. I'm going to wish Coach Belichick well. I want to see him win because it's just kind of like the Deion Sanders effect a little bit. Just brings, you know, college football to the table and makes it that much more interesting. And Coach Belichick also has that effect. So if he's winning, it's going to bring that North Carolina vibe to a whole nother level. And you're going to want to tune in and you're going to want to follow, and it's going to be fun.
- [55:55]
Seton O'Connor
Once again to learn more about the contest, your local high school Friday Night lights, Friday night, 5G lights. Friday night, 5G lights.com Gronk, great to talk to you again. Good luck with this.
- [56:08]
Marvin
All right, Dan. Always. Pleasure, man. Thank you.
- [56:10]
Seton O'Connor
Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, I go back to like these small things where you just go, that guy did this. You know, the Edelman catch against Atlanta is one of the greatest catches in super bowl history. And it's just like it's. You don't even when you watch it, and then you watch it again, you go, I don't know how he did that. I don't know how it was possible. I got it. I got it. Yeah, I know. I'm telling you, I got it. I know. It's a great moment. I know, but you get those. He's talking about Vereen getting 10 catches. Nobody talks about a lot of these guys. Certainly New England running backs and the value that you had of them catching passes, because that was their running game for a lot of these super bowl years. Yes, Marvin.
- [56:55]
Marvin
Also, a guy like James White in the Atlanta super bowl.
- [56:57]
Seton O'Connor
Should have been the mvp. Should have been the mvp, in my opinion. Yeah. Little things. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Willard in Illinois. Hi, Willard. What's on your mind today? Again, first time, long time. 6, 1, 2, 12. Wondering what you think about the buzz in Hollywood after the wonderful success of Happy Gilmore 2 with the comparison of you and a Sandler. You being compared to Redford and Newman. Well, I'm not surprised, but thank you, Will. Yeah, it's Tommy Newman and, and Skip Redford. Charles Redford. Yeah, not the, you know, the Newman in Redford. You're thinking of Dave. In Arkansas they call me Pittsburgh Dave. The official ambassador of the seven time. Yes, seven time super bowl championship winning Pittsburgh Steelers. That tells you where I'm thinking this team's going to. Wait, are you okay that you know, Terry Bradshaw took some shots at Aaron Rodgers before he got there. Aaron, you know, took the high road and just said, hey, Terry doesn't know me. Maybe he needs to sit down and get to know me. I can live with it. You know, it's not that's Men are their own. They're each their own animal. I'll let them go in that. Okay, so I got a best and a worse for you. Okay, Best charity count, charity tournament this weekend. Hit a hole in one and worse. Worst of the weekend, I hit it on the wrong hole. So explain Dave, that you were lined up to hit it to one hole and you ended up hitting it to another green. No, no, no, you miss. You're missing my point. I hit it on number 13, which was. That was fine. I got a hole in one on number 13. Had I hit it on number 16. Oh, then you get it up to 16, then it's $5,000. That's not as good of a story, Dave. Congrats on your hole in one. But I thought you had a hole in one on another green that you weren't even aiming for. But all right, you got it on 13, you get it on 16, then you know you get cash prizes there. Rich in Athens. Hi, Rich. What's on your mind today? Dp Great to talk with you guys. I was just telling your producer, like Garfield, I don't like Monday, but you got to have Rob Gronkowski on the show a lot more. That guy got me fired up. He was a great interview.
- [59:47]
Marvin
And if you had him on every.
- [59:48]
Seton O'Connor
Monday, I'm tuning in. Guarantee that guys is incredible. Great interview. All right, well, see what we can do. I mean, I can only take them when they're available, try to lock them in. We don't pay anybody, so if they show up, great. Love to have Gronk on. He's always been good. And, and, and as soon as he says his first couple of words, like, he just. Gronk. He just. That's who he is. Yeah. Paulie.
- [60:16]
Todd Fritz
Sometimes we were talking about it while you're. During the interview, which was so much fun. He doesn't even seem like a real person. He seems like a character you'd create for a TV show about football, but that's him.
- [60:25]
Seton O'Connor
Yeah. Yeah. Going in the hall of Fame, you know, when you're in the. The short discussion of greatest tight end of all time, you know, is Travis Kelsey going to be recognized as greatest tight end of all time? This Tony Gonzalez get shorted because he didn't have postseason success. Like, Tony Gonzalez's numbers are bonkers. They're. They're. Jerry Ricean. But he didn't have postseason success. Kelsey had it. Gronk had it. That sometimes is the difference. We can look at regular season numbers, but postseason numbers will overshadow those regular season numbers for some players. Yes.
- [61:09]
Todd Fritz
Paul Gronk has 621 receptions in his career in 11 years, which is well below some of those guys you talked about because of injury. He played only four completely healthy seasons. However, if you change the semantics and say when they played, who was the best tight end of all time, Gronk's probably winning that one, like, at their peak.
- [61:29]
Seton O'Connor
Yeah. Because even in Tampa, all they cared that Gronk was healthy for the postseason. It didn't matter the regular season. It was just be healthy for the postseason. I'm going to go to you a couple of times, and you're going to get touchdowns. And that's all Brady cared about, because Gronk couldn't stay healthy with the way he played. Couldn't stay healthy. And he had these defensive backs that were going in low. I mean, he had. He had some really serious injuries and he came in with a bad back. I think that's why he went in the second round, because he had a back issue at Arizona. But Kelsey Kelsey have a thousand catches. Paulie, can we check on that? But Tony Gonzalez is. Gosh, he just did it every. Every single season. Yes. Marvin.
- [62:20]
Marvin
And I feel bad for Tony Gonzalez.
- [62:21]
Paul Pabst
Because he was the Kansas City tight.
- [62:23]
Marvin
End before Mahomes, and it was like, born too early.
- [62:27]
Seton O'Connor
But he put up those numbers before Mahomes got there with Brody Croy. Brody Croyle. Nice. Elvis Gerbach.
- [62:38]
Paul Pabst
Trent Green had to run for a.
- [62:39]
Seton O'Connor
Little bit with him. He did. Yeah. Do you have Kelsey's catches, Paulie?
- [62:45]
Todd Fritz
Yeah, we're getting him up right now. He has 1,004 career catches.
- [62:51]
Seton O'Connor
Oh. So. Just went over a thousand. Okay.
- [62:53]
Todd Fritz
And he had 97 last year, his first season in the league. He. He didn't play a game.
- [62:58]
Seton O'Connor
Yeah.
- [62:59]
Todd Fritz
And then since then, 1,004 catches.
- [63:03]
Seton O'Connor
And wasn't he a quarterback in college at the University of Cincinnati?
- [63:08]
Todd Fritz
I think part of his recruitment, he was like somewhat positionless his first year.
- [63:11]
Seton O'Connor
Yeah. But I think he came in as a quarterback and then they put him as a tight end. But you know, I go back to Ditka. Mike Ditka was the first tight end that was different getting down the field. It wasn't just blocking. John Mackey was another one that could catch a pass and take it the distance. Then it sort of changed. I think Kellen Winslow the second, where it became a weapon, where you're not a blocker, you're just a bigger version of a wide receiver. Jimmy Graham was that way for me. I didn't view him as a tight end. It felt like he was just a larger wide receiver. But the position has evolved and it feels like you gotta have at least one tight end. And some of these teams subscribe to having two of them. Not all meals are created equal. For instance, breakfast has the spicy egg McMuffin for a limited time and lunch doesn't McDonald's breakfast first.
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