The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

Summary of "The Best of The Dan Patrick Show"

Release Date: January 10, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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1. Notre Dame vs. Penn State Game Analysis

Game Breakdown:
Dan Patrick provides an in-depth analysis of the recent Notre Dame victory over Penn State, finalizing the game with a dramatic field goal by Mitch Jeter in the last seven seconds to secure a 27-24 win for the Irish.

Key Moments and Performances:

• Back-and-Forth Scoring: Penn State started strong with 10 points, Notre Dame responded with 17, followed by another 14 from Penn State, and a final 10 from Notre Dame to clinch the win.
• Quarterback Performance: Drew Aller's interception in the final moments was a pivotal play that led to Notre Dame's game-winning field goal.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick (06:41): “Notre Dame is on the precipice. Yes. And they've also done maybe the impossible. They're kind of likable.”
• Dan Patrick (07:39): “But give credit to Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame. At one point I text the Danets and I said, I don't know if they're going to win. But Penn State's a better team than Notre Dame.”

2. Coaching Performance: James Franklin vs. Brian Kelly

Analysis of Records:
Dan contrasts the coaching records of James Franklin (Penn State) and Brian Kelly (Notre Dame), highlighting Franklin's struggles against top 10 opponents with an 3-11 record in such games, deeming it the worst among active coaches with significant top-tier matchups.

Poll Question:
Dan posed a listener poll asking, "Would you rather be James Franklin this morning or Brian Kelly?" The responses sparked a discussion on the merits and reputations of both coaches.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick (10:00): “I would rather be Brian Kelly today. I would rather be Brian Kelly because once again, this stays with James Franklin. He can't win. He doesn't win.”
• Paul Pabst (12:48): “It's painful, but you're close. You're not off the map right now. LSU, with all that talent, not being in the playoff picture is more embarrassing.”

3. Guest Segment: Coach Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State

Building Team Culture:
Coach Dillingham discusses his philosophy on creating a positive and empowering team culture. He emphasizes recruiting players who are good people, make sound decisions, and work incredibly hard. This approach fosters trust and ownership among players, leading to a cohesive and motivated team environment.

Strategic Insights:

• Defensive Strategies Against Texas: Dillingham outlines key tactics to counter Ohio State's high-performing receivers by implementing dual-call defensive strategies to deceive and disrupt the quarterback's reads.
• Game Preparation: Emphasizes the importance of adaptability and having backup plans, particularly when dealing with high-stakes playoff games.

Notable Quotes:

• Kenny Dillingham (39:08): “Our three pillars of our program are be a good person. It's very simple to be a good person, make good decisions. It's very simple to make good decisions and then have more fun working harder than anybody in the country.”
• Kenny Dillingham (41:44): “I think the key to the game is how do you stop Ohio State and one of the best wide receivers in college football in a long time.”

4. Future Game Predictions: Ohio State vs. Texas

Matchup Analysis:
Dan and his co-hosts delve into the upcoming Texas vs. Ohio State game, discussing the strengths and weaknesses of both teams. They highlight Texas's strong defensive first quarter but point out their struggles in the second half, particularly in scoring.

Predictions:
The panel anticipates a closely contested game, with emphasis on Texas needing to overcome their second-half performance issues to challenge Ohio State effectively.

Notable Quotes:

• Paul Pabst (23:41): “Texas starts well. Their defense is the best in the country in the first quarter at limiting plays and limiting points.”
• Dan Patrick (28:37): “Feels like we're underestimating Texas a little bit and having... I don't know if it's a home field advantage.”

5. Listener Engagement and Interactive Polls

Throughout the episode, Dan encourages listener participation through polls and calls, engaging the audience in discussions about coaching decisions, game strategies, and player performances. This interactive segment enhances the show's dynamic and keeps listeners actively involved.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick (09:22): “Would you rather be James Franklin today James Franklin or Brian Kelly?”
• Dan Patrick (35:45): “Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.”

6. Closing Remarks and Takeaways

Dan Patrick wraps up the episode by reiterating the key discussions around the Notre Dame vs. Penn State game, the contrasting coaching styles and records of James Franklin and Brian Kelly, and the strategic insights shared by Coach Kenny Dillingham for the upcoming Ohio State vs. Texas game. The episode emphasizes the importance of team culture, strategic game planning, and continuous improvement in coaching methodologies.

Final Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick (51:24): “He knows he's going to get hurt, I know it's going to hurt, but I'm going to hurt you as well.”
• Kenny Dillingham (50:25): “I truly believe that if you try to, if you give people the keys, if you truly empower people and if you get the right people around you and you trust them and you believe in them, they're gonna be better versions of themselves.”

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of "The Best of The Dan Patrick Show," highlighting the critical discussions, expert analyses, and engaging interactions that provide listeners with valuable insights into college football dynamics, coaching philosophies, and upcoming game predictions.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

We did it. We made it to a Friday. It's our one. It's a meat Friday, but it's a little seafood Friday as well. Oysters from Doug in North Carolina. The Carolina Gold Oysters. Reverse seared rib eyes, crab cakes, bacon wrapped scallops. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. Wow. I know morale is high. So is the grocery bill that I'm paying for. But thank you to Doug in North Carolina. He sent 300 oysters yesterday, so the Carolina Gold Oysters. Todd. I said to Todd have you ever had an oyster? He goes, yeah, yeah. Don't they have like a pearl in them? And I go, no, no, not the ones you're going to be eating. You've. I don't think you've ever. I think you've had stuffed clams.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, I think I've had other types of seafood. For some reason.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought it was that little pearl thing.

[Todd Fritz]

One of those little white circles counts as a raw oyster, but I guess I don't even know what a roy oyster is then.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think that would be good to eat.

[Todd Fritz]

Probably not. That'd be dangerous.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd Fritz]

But I'm up for trying it out.

[Dan Patrick]

And seeing what it's all about. Well, they're raw. Just to let you know, these aren't cooked.

[Todd Fritz]

But there's the scallops and there's the.

[Dan Patrick]

Ribeye and there's all kinds of other stuff going on too with that. Yes, yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Crab cakes.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. All right. 877-3DP show if you'd like to dial us up. Operator Tyler sitting by to take your phone calls. Chris Fowler will be on the call tonight. It's Texas and Ohio State. We will talk to the Arizona head football coach, Kenny Dillingham a little later on. Also, Bill Cower will join us. It'll be the Steeler head coach, CBS Sports hall of Famer, a little bit later on as well. The most must win game of the weekend. We'll have that for you coming up. But Notre Dame comes back to beat Penn State 27, 24. And it was such a weird game when you think about it, the back and forth with this. Penn State scores the first 10, Notre Dame the next 17, Penn State the next 14, and then Notre Dame scores the final 10 points. There's a lot of different directions to go in. I think if you're a Penn State fan, you've been down this road before, certainly with your head coach. James Franklin doesn't do well in games against top 10 opponents. In fact, he's 3 and 11 facing a top top 10 team when his team was also ranked in the top 10. That's the worst record by any active coach with at least 10 such games. But give credit to Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame. At one point I text the Danets and I said, I don't know if they're going to win. But Penn State's a better team than Notre Dame. They had more explosive players. Abdul Carter is awesome. I watched him against usc. I watched him twice like a true game. Now you can watch highlights and you can make somebody really good or really bad in a highlight. But he is a disruptor and he wasn't 100%. And we kept thinking, okay, they got a running attack. That offensive line was great. And I was just waiting for Drew Aller to be who I guess we thought he was, that he was not going to make mistakes. Spread it around. The wide receivers for Penn State didn't have a reception. That's really, really hard to do. But Notre Dame hung in there. You know, when Riley Leonard got knocked down, I thought he had a concussion. And then you have the backup quarterback who comes in and leads them down to a field goal, going 6 for 7 in that drive. And I thought that's more than three points because I didn't know if Riley Leonard was going to be able to come back in and play the backup quarterback who's been there for, I don't know, two or three years waiting his turn while they bring in all these transfers and they get a field goal. And it just felt like it was 10, three, but it felt like it was 10 to 10. Penn State look like they should have been up by 13, 14 points. I thought they were that good, but they just didn't make a big play when they needed to. And then you had the interception late in the game that led to the game winning field goal. Here's Marcus Freeman on his team last night in the second half. He made some Jeremiah Love plays. And you know when it speaks volumes to the heart he has, he gave everything he had to this place. He did not have to play today and, you know, nobody would have batted an eye, but he put team in front of himself and how he felt. And we got a whole bunch of guys like that in the locker room and that's why we're in this position. Here is the call. Notre Dame Radio Network with the game winning field goal by Mitch Jeter. Good snap, good hold kick on its way.

[Todd Fritz]

And the kick is good. Mitch Jeter with seven seconds left gives the Irish a lead, 27, 24.

[Dan Patrick]

Notre Dame is on the precipice. Yes. And they've also done maybe the impossible. They're kind of likable. Whether, you know, I grew up a Notre Dame fan, but if you're not a Notre Dame fan, like, I don't think you go, well, I hate Marcus Freeman. Like, Marcus Freeman's a guy I'd want to play for and you can get that. Remember when he got the head coaching job when Brian Kelly left and all of a sudden he walks into the room, into the locker room and his players erupted like it was such a cool moment. Now, granted, you know, some of those players aren't there anymore, but that feeling is still there. And they made the right plays when they needed to. And you know, right before Drew Aller throws that interception, Greg McElroy said, hey, you know, he takes care of the. Until he didn't. Here is the quarterback for Penn State on that turnover.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Yeah, I mean, I was going through.

[Todd Fritz]

My progression, got to the backside and honestly I was just trying to dirt it at his feet. But I mean, it just, I should have just thrown it away when I felt the first two progressions not open just because of the situation we were in. But I was just trying to dirt it out of Mari's feet, so. But not just in the execute, what I was trying to do.

[Dan Patrick]

And he was hit when he threw it. And it's one of those plays that you still have two timeouts left, little less than a minute to go. And you know, the fact you have two timeouts and you have a little bit of time on the clock, that's why you're not going to play for overtime. You're not going to, you know, you're trying to do something. And I think that they got a little too aggressive there instead of throwing the ball away, obviously. But for Notre Dame, now they wait for the winner of tonight's game with Ohio State and Texas. By the way, Ohio State is the favorite to win the national title. Then it's Notre Dame and Texas. Ohio State is a six point favorite coming up tonight. Poll question today. Seaton, by the way, good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, download the app if you haven't done so. If you'd like to watch the show. And we say Good morning to iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and our 400 cities around America. All righty. Seaton.

[Marvin]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Marvin]

Let's see. Yeah, Todd's got a few of them here. I don't know if he can call them up right away, but he has one here that was interesting. Would you rather be today James Franklin or Brian Kelly? Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

It had to be said wow.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

Voters, take your places.

[Paul Pabst]

Dang.

[Dan Patrick]

Where did that come from?

[Todd Fritz]

I don't know. One's working on an accent, one's going to, you know, playing for a national title.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, he's not playing for a national title.

[Marvin]

Well, a lot of people were pointing out last night that Brian Kelly left Notre Dame because he wanted to go to a place where he could win a national title.

[Dan Patrick]

That is true.

[Marvin]

And thus far, he struggled to be anywhere close to that.

[Dan Patrick]

I would rather be Brian Kelly today. I would rather be Brian Kelly because once again, this it, this stays with James Franklin. He can't win. He doesn't win. Now, is it all on him? No. But, you know, it still comes back to you. It's on your one loss record. It's not on Drew Aller's one loss record as much as it is James Franklin. And it's not a coincidence. He just doesn't win when his team is ranked in the top 10. He doesn't beat top 10 opponents.

[Marvin]

Yeah, see, so when you have like this stats, like, you know, wide receivers had like zero touches, zero yards, zero touchdowns.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

You put that more on the head coach for not finding a way to get his receivers the ball, then you do the quarterback who has to get it there.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I would say both. Yeah, yeah.

[Marvin]

I would say obviously shared responsibility, but.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd put it on the offensive coordinator.

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And James Franklin. Like, you want to put your players in a position to succeed, and so that's why you have coaches, they need to be coached to be put in positions to succeed. It's really hard to not have a reception if you. Your Penn State wide receivers and nobody has a reception. And I still watching that first half, I kept thinking, boy, they better score points and you got a great tight end. It just felt like all else fails go to Warren. They had a running game, you had two running backs, offensive line, you had a defensive player who might have been the best player on the like, it, it was all there. It all. It matched up for you. I mean, Riley Leonard played well in the second half, threw for 160 yards, but you're still watching. And I just thought Penn State should be dominating, like physically dominating this game. And then it's. It's almost like Notre Dame got that confidence boost. Then Riley Leonard comes back and they kind of. It's almost like when you face Mike Tyson, not that Penn State is Mike Tyson, but you have to, you have to survive the first two rounds and then once you do, then you gain confidence and it's like Notre Dame was getting hit, and then they're like, all right, we're hanging in here, hanging in here. And then all of a sudden, they didn't get knocked down. They didn't get knocked down, and I think that's a testament to them. And they made some big plays when they needed to. Would anybody want to be James Franklin over Brian Kelly today? Yes, Paul, today.

[Paul Pabst]

It's painful, but you're close. You're not off the map right now. Lsu, with all that talent, not being in the playoff picture is more embarrassing.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul Pabst]

By the way, people in college football like the James Franklin nickname. Small Game James.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Okay. Set a big game James. Okay. Yes, Todd, I would agree with Paulie.

[Todd Fritz]

That you got it to the Final Four. I know you didn't get over the hump just yet, but you're extremely relevant and something to build on. And they were one of the last four teams, so I'd rather be James Frank.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Satan.

[Marvin]

Right. I think you want to be playing at the bare minimum, even if you're. Even if you are, say, small game James, you at least got to the big game to not be able to, you know, you lost it. But it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I guess I don't want that reputation of I can't win a big game, and it's there. And we thought that going into. I just thought, you know what? Somehow, some way, Notre Dame wins this game. Even though I thought Penn State was far and away the better team, certainly in that first half. Yes, Marvin. Then what's Brian Kelly's reputation? Maybe the guy who left Notre Dame to try to win titles, and then Notre Dame won a national title.

[Paul Pabst]

Forgive me, Brian.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, wait, wait. No, that's not nice, because he hadn't even won all of his games yet. No, he hasn't. It's still early, but Marcus Freeman did the impossible. He made Notre Dame likable at least. Maybe I'm overstating this, but I just get the feeling that people watch Notre Dame and they're like, okay, all right. You know, they're kind of spunky here. Yes. Yes, Eden.

[Marvin]

Brian Kelly got to a national championship game, and Notre Dame still hasn't gotten the stink off of them yet from that game. They got destroyed.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, they did.

[Marvin]

They got absolutely destroyed by Alabama. Yeah, that was his one moment of, let's see what happens when he gets to the big game.

[Dan Patrick]

He at least got to the big game.

[Marvin]

Notre Dame still isn't taken seriously as a football program because of that one game. And I'm a Notre Dame fan, and that that one game was so bad.

[Dan Patrick]

That'S when you realized that there was a difference between the SEC and everybody else. Or you were reminded that there's a big difference because you watched. When you watch Notre Dame, it's like. And I always thought maybe they're cleats are. Are heavier than everybody. And like, they always seemed slower when they were facing Alabama because Alabama came in. It's like you guys are supposed to be good, and they blew them out. It's a different Notre Dame team. You know, it's not a finesse team. You know, they. They had to kind of SEC that lineup a little bit. Yes. Marvin, wait, hold on. Notre Dame got Molly whopped by Clemson, also in the final Four. That maybe the Cotton Bowl. Okay.

[Todd Fritz]

They got.

[Dan Patrick]

Look, it's probably 33 to 3. Yeah, but that was a while ago. 2018. That's. That's an eternity.

[Marvin]

It's definitely way more recent than the example I gave.

[Dan Patrick]

Correct. That was 2013. So correct. I think I'd still rather be Brian Kelly than I would James Franklin today. But that's a great poll question. You know, I'll ask Chris Fowler that.

[Marvin]

And he just canceled.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. We normally don't have. You know, sometimes you get. People say, hey, you know, he'll do the interview, but not Chris. But, you know, we'll have guests and say, but you can't ask about. And normally it's the question I wasn't going to ask that they bring up to me that I go, oh, maybe I should ask that question. Yeah, Paulie, I'm not going to give.

[Paul Pabst]

Names, but a major music artist was coming in studio, and the last thing we heard from the publicist was don't ask about what happened in Vegas last week. We had no idea until we looked it up, and we're like, okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, dang. Oh, yeah. I'm like, I don't want to ask that.

[Marvin]

So anything interesting happening lately?

[Dan Patrick]

What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas.

[Marvin]

I was just thinking, last time I was in Vegas was really a lot of fun. Ever been there?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Todd.

[Kenny Dillingham]

That's actually happened.

[Dan Patrick]

That's actually happened a number of times.

[Todd Fritz]

Don't ask him what the cops found in his trunk. He doesn't want to get into him.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd be like, what? Okay.

[Marvin]

What they found in his trunk.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. I remember right before we were gonna have Barry Bonds on, and we were told, this is let. They're gonna hand him the phone. And he was on, and he was. I think he was promoting a new personality. And maybe it was kfc, or maybe it was his home security company. I don't know what it was. But they're like, all right, Barry's joining us from spring training. And hey, before, we're not talking about steroids or any of that stuff and you know, blah, blah, blah, here's Barry. I go, wait, no, no, hold on here. I, I have to, I have to do and I can't have bonds on and then go, hey, so what do you attribute your growth to? You know, 30 seconds you're going to give me ground rules. I'm like, no, tell Dan no baseball questions. Cream clear.

[Todd Fritz]

People going to jail for him.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Dan Patrick]

Chris Fowler, he'll be on the call. It's the Cotton bowl coming up tonight. Texas, Ohio State. Herbie will be there. Holly Row, Laura Rutledge, festivities on the mothership starting at 7:30 Eastern. He'll also be on the call for the national title game. Here's your question, Chris. Oh, by the way, it's a good thing they're not playing the game outdoors. How's it look outside there in, in Dallas?

[Paul Pabst]

Wintry. We had like a nice wintry mix. It was snow. Then it became hail, sleet, rain yesterday. It's wild. I mean, yeah, it was. It's frigid. Also, like very cold and windy. The AT&T is right behind me here. Out that window. It's hard to see, but it's got snow in the top of it and it's nice and warm even in cold weather. Some stadiums are cold when it's cold outside because they don't have heat in them. And this one is nice and toasty. So good setting.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, here's the question I'll start the conversation with. Would you rather be James Franklin this morning or Brian Kelly?

[Paul Pabst]

Oh, man, I got a pick. I mean, I think James Franklin's team, it was a good run. I mean, it's a heartbreaking way to lose the game. Some of those plays that decide it will haunt probably him and his team for a while. But I think there's a lot to be proud of, what Penn State did and battle of the end. And I don't think that they have anything to really be embarrassed about it at Penn State. If you're James Franklin, certainly. I think you've answered some questions. Some remain, but I think it was a really good year for Penn State.

[Dan Patrick]

But when we talk about James Franklin, it's about his record against top 10 teams. I mean, that's really what his resume seems to be about. Is that fair?

[Paul Pabst]

It's whatever the media decides it's about. I mean, that's part of it. You are, when you're a program at Penn State, you are expected to compete with and beat the best your share of the time. Most of those losses are to Ohio State, you know, and I was wondering if that was going to be the narrative at Penn State one last Night Ohio State wins tonight. Another rematch in an all Big Ten game and a series that obviously Ohio State's dominating. And I called the last time Penn State beat there was a block field goal run back by Grant Haley on a whiteout night. It's been since then.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Paul Pabst]

So we're not going to get that narrative and I think that's okay because I don't know how much national belief there would be that Penn State could get over the hump against the red hot Buckeyes team if that's what it happened. So we don't have that narrative. But you know, again, yeah, he's going to have to get better. They got to beat Ohio State once in a while. But I don't, I don't think that's sorely lacking. I got to be honest with you. I just don't, you know, you want to look at Ohio State against SEC teams who are ranked in the top five. I spin this back as Buckeye fans know that James Franklin status. Okay, well, if that's relevant. Is it relevant that Ohio State's 17 and 1 all time against SEC top five teams? Which Texas is. No, I don't think so at all. So you can spin stats any way you want. I mean, would he have loved the game? Won the game? Yes. Could they have? Should they have? Maybe. But I don't think that that's on James Franklin for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you ever have announcer envy when you're watching a game?

[Paul Pabst]

Of course. All the time, man. I mean, I would not have minded calling the Orange Bowl. I live in Miami for one thing. It is not wintry in Miami. I really had high expectations for that game last night that unfolded. I don't know who's going to win, but I was at Notre Dame practice this week. I, I saw the Irish. I, I, I, I forecast the kind of game we got. It was going to be three points. Either way, it's going to come down to the last possession. I don't mind calling games to come down to the last possession. I would love for this game tonight not to be a first round knockout. But listen, Dan, I mean, like, who am I to whine about anything? This is our 23rd playoff game. The Kirk and I have had the privilege to call tonight. That's a big number going back to the first one in 2014. So I don't, I don't let my envy get in the way of having a good time calling whatever I'm calling. But yeah, that's a hell of a game to call last night.

[Dan Patrick]

But when you're calling a game like this, I know there's supposed to be, like, it's just another game, but it's not just another game. But then you have to stay in your comfort zone. Like, do you ever have that kind of conflicting, Am I adding too much or not enough? Am I excited? Am I favoring somebody or not realizing it? Like, do you process any of that while you're getting ready or while you're doing it?

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, you do. I. I don't think I have to worry about favoring somebody, because if you honestly don't care about the outcome and separate yourself from that, then you don't have to worry about it. It's all in the ear of the beholder anyway. You know, the fans listening are going to think, oh, he loves the other team. It's obvious. Let's listen to the call. And the other side says the same thing. I mean, you know, you get excited when. When good things happen on the field. I don't even think about who's in the uniform that's doing it. I think that, you know, you do a lot of these games, you want to strike a balance between certainly not being jaded, because you've done a lot of big games. And I don't think we ever come across as being jaded or, hey, been there, done that. It's going to take a lot to impress us. But you also don't want to come out of your shoes in the first quarter. You have to, you know, you have to save something for the finish because you can't start the game out at 11 and then there's nowhere to go. So, yeah, I think you learn over time that, you know, a measured approach is good. But, you know, when Ohio State scoring touchdowns in the first two plays of the game and Jeremiah Smith is doing something special, you know, okay, you're going to get really excited about that, and you're going to get excited when the other team starts to come back and make it a game. We want close games. I have the same agenda. Who do you like? I like a close game. I like a competitive game that viewers like, the people who are not just hardcore fans of the winning team, enjoy, because Ohio State fans enjoyed the hell out of those first two playoff games that we did. If you want a competitive game like last night, not so much. So, you know, I want. I want this to be a battle worthy of the occasion, which last night's semifinal was.

[Dan Patrick]

Chris Fowler will be on the call with Herbie tonight. The Goodyear Cotton bowl. That'll be on ESPN. They start at 7:30 Eastern. Feels like we're underestimating Texas a little bit and having I and I don't know if it's a home field advantage. Ohio State travels well. I don't know what kind of sense you'll get of this is a homeish game for Texas.

[Paul Pabst]

Ryan, Dave's always really concerned about the crowd we were obviously at. Tennessee came in and brought a lot of fans to Ohio Stadium. That fired up the Buckeyes. You know, it felt like the Roman Coliseum and something and the visitors brought a lot of people and Ohio State responded in that way at the Rose Bowl. He's going, what do you think? Is it 64? I don't know what the crowd is. There's a lot of green, there's a lot of scarlet. I mean tonight there's going to be a lot of burnt orange in there. I don't think it's going to decide the game, but I do think, you know, there's an advantage to playing Texas in Texas, you know, if you're the Longhorns, they haven't had great success in this building. Be honest with you. They haven't won. They haven't played a cotton ball game in 20 years. They played a Big 12 championship game in here. But I would say historically has actually done better in this building than Texas has. Doesn't mean a lot when they're on the same field. But you know, Texas, you said underestimated. It's interesting because I think we've been overestimating the potential of this team. Waiting for the pieces to come together, waiting for Texas to play a complete 60 minute game in all three phases which they have not really come close to doing if we're being honest. They played great football for like 30 minutes. They have a terrible record after halftime in these games. You know, Sarkeesian, he just has to address it so they have to. Whether the start against Ohio State, as everybody does, they're a good starting team. Texas starts well. Their defense is the best in the country in the first quarter at limiting plays and limiting points. So I want to say we'll have to try to change that. But Texas, Dan, they haven't scored a third quarter touchdown in like six games. They haven't outscored an opponent in the second half since they beat Oklahoma in the Red river game here in Dallas. That's a long time. That's a shocking stat for a really good team that's won 13 games.

[Dan Patrick]

I go back to, you know, the fact that we extended the playoffs to 12 teams. When Ryan Day lost to Michigan, I wonder if there was a 14 playoff, would Ryan Day have kept his job?

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, I think he would have. But I think it would have been a really long, miserable off season in Columbus without the chance to redeem yourself. But we do have a 12 team playoff, so I think you have to filter it in. I know Ohio State is, I've done some shows and they'll still never forget that game. And some people would still rather beat Michigan than win a championship, which is lunacy to me. Makes no sense. You have to change your thinking in this 12 team bracket era. And the fact was the opportunity was there for and they're halfway there. They got a long way to go because if they don't win tonight, then people will remember the Michigan loss because they didn't win a Big Ten, they didn't beat Michigan and they didn't win a national championship. So their three goals are over three. There's a lot on the line for Ohio State and they responded really well to that urgency so far. So we'll see if they can keep doing it.

[Dan Patrick]

Handicap the format for the playoffs, let's say next year. You have total autonomy. What tweaks, changes do you make?

[Paul Pabst]

I think there's tweaks that need to be made to the regular season leading into the playoff. I think eventually the conference championship games don't really have a place in this. Especially in conferences like the Big Ten of the sec. Both teams are going to make it. Every year it's an extra layer of games. If you really care about workload and wear and tear, then you have to look at that. I mean, these teams have been Preparing for this 16, 17 game season from the start. And the smart programs were doing that. The ones that had the resources and the roster to do that. Texas did it. Ohio State did it very intentionally. Cranking back the tempo, not playing at hyper speed, playing 150 less plays in the regular season to save their players for this. It's worked really well. Yeah, but going forward, I think if you took the conference championship games out of it, that would help a little bit. I think that you need to do away with the buys for the four highest ranked conference winners. I think that's a pretty popular opinion. You see Arizona State, Boise State, they didn't play badly. I just don't think that you deserve a top four seed by winning a conference. I think you should get in the bracket. I'm all for inclusivity, maybe even give it extra, maybe make the American Conference get An automatic bid. But don't seed them based that. Go one through 12, play it out like they do it in college basketball. You don't. You don't get an automatic seating for winning a conference.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I'm going to script this for you. Texas is down by four late, and Arch Manning comes in, comes off the bench. Okay, you cut away to the Manning family.

[Paul Pabst]

It's hard. They're hard to find. They hide pretty well. Cooper's hard to find. And they will find them, though.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you don't. We don't care about Cooper. We care about Arch and Peyton and Eli and then. And then whatever happens from there, they have the ball, they're down four, and here comes Arch Manning, savior.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah. You have one of those stories that you write a movie that sounds like a movie script, what you just laid out, Right? What? Be more movie. Like, if he wins the game and the legend is born. There's a reason why yours is playing the game, though. And I think, you know, if that happens, if. When yours got hurt, that would be tough, you know, he is an Ohio State recruit. We know that. He spent a year there. He is the original NIL quarterback. He really is. He was like the Curt Flood, you know, free agency. Right. In college football. That's an old reference. Not many people get that reference. But, no, he ushered in the NIL era, cashed in really well at two places. Good for him. So obviously facing his former school, and that's a big plot line coming in. If he gets knocked out of the game and our chest to go in there. I mean, I don't like to see players fail. It's tough to watch interceptions decide games like it did last night for Drew. Ella. That's tough, you know, It'll haunt him. I don't like to see kickers choke. I don't like to see quarterbacks make mistakes that decide games. So in your storybook script, Manning goes down and Texas wins the game.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Now you take it from there. Okay. Well, great to hear from you.

[Paul Pabst]

What would you hear from me?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I said, great to hear from you. Yeah, I figured that. You know, you're busy. You probably got to work out today. Herbie gonna spot you on the bench.

[Paul Pabst]

He doesn't get in the gym too much. But I don't live so much. I need a spotter. I'll be all right. Tebow's around to spot me. Dude, T goes working out in the gym, like, four times a day. I.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. You're not putting up the same weight.

[Paul Pabst]

No, we are not in the same weight class. Speaking of busy, you either love Christmas, you're really busy, or you're just too lazy to take the tree down. I know. How long is a tree gonna stay there?

[Dan Patrick]

All the above. By the way, that I love Christmas. I don't the guy who takes down the tree, his girlfriend just had a baby so that he normally takes down the tree. So I'm going to blame him. Yeah. All else fails, I blame it on my staff. Have fun tonight. Thanks for joining us as always, Chris.

[Paul Pabst]

We'll do that.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, that's Chris Fowler. He'll be with Herbie tonight. 7:30 in the Cotton Bowl.

[Paul Pabst]

Be sure to catch the live edition.

[Dan Patrick]

Of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple. What's the future hold for business? You can ask nine experts and you'll get 10 answers. Bull market, bear market, inflation up, down. You need somebody to help you. Well over 41,000 businesses have future proofed their business with NetSuite by Oracle, the number one Cloud ERP, unified business management suite. One source of truth giving you the visibility and control that you need to make quick decisions, real time insights and forecasting. You'll be peering into the future with actionable data. Now, whether your company is earning millions or even hundreds of millions, NetSuite helps you respond to immediate challenges and seize your biggest opportunities. Speaking of opportunity, download the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine Learning at netsuite.com Patrick the guide is free for you at netsuite.com Patrick that's netsuite.com Patrick Good luck.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism? Football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Cuz we got lots to say. I, I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Dan Patrick]

There was something sentimental when you, when, when you send it.

[Paul Pabst]

It.

[Dan Patrick]

He was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Dan Patrick]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adnan Virk]

What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Virgin Demers.

[Jason Demers]

Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.

[Adnan Virk]

I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right.

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what, tons of back and forth on all things NHL.

[Adnan Virk]

Yeah, you're soon going to find out we're not just hockey talk. We get all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear on NHL.

[Jason Demers]

Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Forky.

[Adnan Virk]

That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

We say good morning to the Arizona State head football coach Kenny Dillingham had an unbelievable season, took Texas to a couple of overtimes before being bounced from the postseason. Kenny, thanks for joining us. How many times have you watched that game?

[Kenny Dillingham]

Too many. Way, way too many. Probably 10, 12 times.

[Dan Patrick]

But what are you trying to get out of that when you watch?

[Kenny Dillingham]

To be honest, just what tips did they have to give their players an advantage? And if we ever played them again, what could we do to give our players an advantage? I mean, nothing more or less than that.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you watch alone?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I do.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you. Do you drink beers when you're. I mean, you know, can. Can you have a little bit of fun when you're watching this? Coach?

[Kenny Dillingham]

Sometimes. Usually when you win, you do that. When you lose, you try to drown in the sorrows.

[Dan Patrick]

But what is it that you could have done if I say you get one? Mulligan, what would you have done differently?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I would have had not called a timeout on the fourth and one on in overtime. I would have let the play eat and it would have converted and I Would have had a timeout to save for the 4th and 12 when yours checked out of it out into a Cover 0 beater.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought you were going to say something about the targeting. No call there.

[Kenny Dillingham]

I can't control that.

[Dan Patrick]

How painful is that to watch? Because I thought it was. You could have picked a penalty, either defenseless receiver or you could have done targeting and they gave you neither of those. What do you see when you see that play now? Over and over?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I think I see the same thing that everybody sees.

[Todd Fritz]

That's just.

[Kenny Dillingham]

It is what it is though. That's sport. There's missed calls, there's calls all. There's probably five other calls in the game that nobody talks about that probably could have gone against us. So I don't like to use those moments as excuses, even though they're the big moments and they're what everybody should talk about because people only talk about the big plays, the big moments, the big no calls, the big made calls, whatever it is. But there's a lot of things I could have done better to help our football team.

[Dan Patrick]

If Ryan Day reached out to you today and said, hey, got any tips for me facing Texas? What would you tell him?

[Kenny Dillingham]

Yeah, they're very physical on the perimeter. They're, they're really good tacklers and I think that's a great skill. I think it's one thing you see on tape, but like when you see it live, the size and the tackling ability, it's different. Then I would say you have to have an ability to check when Quinn Ewers checks. You can't let Quinn Ewers check Texas into good football plays and, and not change the look. So you better create a mechanism defensively to check when he checks.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, explain how you then can counteract when yours is going to check and change the play, then what is your.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Job so you can have like a dual call. So basically you say we're going to run field blitz and we're going to run cover four. And if the quarterback checks then we're going to change from our field blitz call to automatically changing to cover four. So he made a check based off of field blitz and he wants the perfect play versus that we're now going to a complimentary call. So having a way, just like offenses have a way to. When you hear kill, kill and the quarterback say that he's changing calls but it's based off the look. Same thing for a defense, but the.

[Dan Patrick]

Fourth and 13 touchdown. Did he check out of something?

[Kenny Dillingham]

He did. He checked out out of A call in which we felt really good about what we were doing into a call later on the clock and you know, he didn't. Unbelievable check. And then they executed really well.

[Dan Patrick]

What did you think of the Notre Dame, Penn State game?

[Kenny Dillingham]

Unbelievable game. I think Marcus Freeman is an absolute stud of a human being. I've been going versus him since I was at Florida State when he was the defensive coordinator and he was a phenomenal coach then. And I think the way he leads people, I think you can see his guys play really hard.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you have a clock management guy like Marcus Freeman has a guy right next to him. Do you have a guy whose only job is to give you clock management?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I did. It was Matt Butterfield. He just took the full time special teams coordinator job though, elsewhere. So I'm hiring. So if you ever want to hang.

[Dan Patrick]

It up.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Let me know.

[Dan Patrick]

I like the colors and I like the climate. I just don't know what it pays.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Not what you meant.

[Dan Patrick]

He's the Arizona State head coach, Ken Dillingham joining us on the program. I'm going to ask Bill Cower about this. We see this with Dan Campbell, other coaches, they create a culture. It feels like you're creating a culture, but I don't know how you go about creating that culture.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Yeah, I think for us we pick our players, right? We recruit our players. So for us it's recruiting guys that are like minded. You know, our three pillars of our program are be a good person. It's very simple to be a good person, make good decisions. It's very simple to make good decisions and then have more fun working harder than anybody in the country. So what is our culture? We better recruit to people that when they walk around the building, they have a smile on their face, they're excited to be here, they crack a joke. You know, they're, they have personality. Because I really think when you get people around you that have personality, you wake up and you may have a down day and that person is going to lift you higher than you would have been. And that's the culture we're trying to create.

[Dan Patrick]

First time you see Cam scatter, boo you. Your response is, your reaction is, what.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Man, this had all those yards. You know, he's, he's an underdog. There's a reason for it. And. But what he's done to change his body and to change who he is, just as a physical specimen, he's the strongest he's ever been, least body fat he's ever had, fastest he's ever been. Mindset's better than it's ever been. He went from a really, really good football player to somebody who was top five in the Heisman vote. And I think he should have been higher.

[Dan Patrick]

But so that confidence of just kind of loading him up, just say, go, like, he's going to. He knows he's going to get. We talked to him after the loss, and he said, look, I know I'm going to get hurt. I know it's going to hurt, but I'm going to hurt you as well. Like, that kind of physicality. And he said, Marshawn lynch is sort of, you know, one of his idols or who he runs.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Like, yeah, I think Scott just has that mindset he gets into. He's the nicest kid off the field, super intelligent. People think his playstyle. Oh, he's crazy. Scott is incredibly intelligent. High, high iq. And for him to flip a switch into this, like, no way anybody can stop me mode. And does that mean he's always not going to be stopped?

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Nobody in the history of sports ever been invincible. But it means he believes it so much that he's going to make plays, that people are like, what just happened? And every day for the last 700 days or whatever, 780 days I've coached him. He has done something at practice or in a game that I'm like, what just happened? That is incredible.

[Dan Patrick]

How often do you go to an opposing team stadium and people question if you really are the head coach at Arizona State.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Oh, the way easier question, how often do I. Does that not happen? I mean, I look 12, so it's. You know, when I walk around, it's just part of it, you know, I've been young my whole life, though. I started coaching at 17. So I'm very used to the fact. I mean, I get stopped trying to walk into the field before the. Before the Peach ball. They're like, you need credentials. Go back and get them. And I do it. You know, at the end of the day, people are doing their job, so people don't really recognize me. I appreciate it. Hopefully I look young when I'm older. You know what I mean? People will be jealous, but right now, it's just part of it.

[Dan Patrick]

What do you expect to happen tonight between Texas and Ohio State?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I haven't watched enough Ohio State to give, like, a really, really good opinion. I know Texas is going to be really good on defense. I know they're not going to give up big plays. So I think the key to Ohio State, I think the key to the game is how do you stop Ohio State and one of the best wide receivers in college football in a long time. And you can't just double team them because Ohio State's too good to do that. So what are you doing to get the quarterback to think he's double teamed, move his eyes off of him, but him really be singled out. And I think that's one of the hidden things in the game is the deception of him being doubled. Can you do that enough to single him up and get your hats elsewhere for Texas? And if they can, you know, I think they're both really good football teams.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, when we had Cam on, he said he checked out of that, that halfback option that I think he said your quarterback said he was banged up, don't throw me the football. And so he changed the play. Did you know that?

[Kenny Dillingham]

Yeah, I did. I saw it live and in person, baby. And on fourth and two in the fourth quarter. So that was exciting. But he's the same dude that punted for us last year and checked out of a punt versus USC and did this and signaled a wide out to run a slant and threw it to him for a first down. Same dude that caught a toss, scrambled backwards 97 yards, realized he was going to lose yards and threw the ball away. His football IQ and his savviness is unbelievable for his style of play.

[Dan Patrick]

You strike me as a pregame speech guy.

[Kenny Dillingham]

Really?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Kenny Dillingham]

I actually don't give pregame speeches. Our players give pregame speeches. This is a player run program. Our players give the pregame. Our players make the decisions. I am literally a surrogate between the leadership council and the players. And my job is to help the leadership council make the best decisions for the football team. But I do not run the show here. Our players run the show. I just help them get to the. Get to the best decisions, in my opinion.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, like, is there a cutoff point of what they're allowed to do and say, like, do they have total autonomy here?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I mean, if they're going to do something that is bad, I'm going to say, no, we're not doing that. You know, but if I say, do you guys think we should do this or this? And I give them options and they vote, I'm doing what they vote for. If they say, hey, we need a Monday off, we're tired, and I say, you guys know what the repercussions of this are, right? Means Tuesday has to be this high. You guys have to elevate Tuesday to another level. And they say, yes, I'm like, okay, Monday's off. I firmly believe in extreme ownership, especially in today's day and age. And to get a team buy in, you need team commitment, team ownership. And I think that was one thing our leadership council, the decisions they made and they could push the team to further my opinion further than we thought we could go or people thought we could go because there was such buy in because it was team decisions, not a head coach saying, we're going to go out and practice for 2 hours and 30 minutes today. In November, it was the leadership council saying, hey, we talked to coach. This is why we need to practice for two hours and 30 minutes today.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, when did you learn? How did you learn this?

[Kenny Dillingham]

I just believe in trusting people. I mean, I leave, I mean, I shouldn't say this, but I leave my car unlocked like my wife hates it. I just believe in people. I truly believe that if you try to, if you give people the keys, if you truly empower people and if you get the right people around you and you trust them and you believe in them, right. And you empower them, they're gonna be better versions of themselves. And that empowerment is going to take you as a unit higher than you could ever go by me saying run 100 yards.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay? If your car is gone by the end of the day, do not blame me.

[Kenny Dillingham]

I'm going to lock it now. I'm going to have to change my entire theory not locking my car now because I just exposed that.

[Dan Patrick]

Congratulations on all this success.

[Kenny Dillingham]

I appreciate it.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, coach. Coach Kenny Dillingham, Arizona State, second season and they were three and nine first season. 11. Three in season two. I could buy into that.

[Marvin]

Did we just get a new favorite coach? I feel like we might have.

[Dan Patrick]

He's there.

[Marvin]

Let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

I, I thought that was great.

[Paul Pabst]

Be sure to catch the live edition.

[Dan Patrick]

Of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. What's the future hold for business? You can ask nine experts and you'll get 10 answers. Bull market, bear market, inflation up, down. You need somebody to help you. Well, over 41,000 businesses have future proofed their business with NetSuite by Oracle, the number one Cloud ERP unified business management suite. One source of truth giving you the visibility and control that you need to make quick decisions, real time insights and forecasting. You'll be peering into the future with actionable data. Now, whether your company is earning millions or even hundreds of millions, NetSuite helps you respond to immediate challenges. And seize your biggest opportunities. Speaking of opportunity, download the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine Learning at netsuite.com Patrick the guide is free for you at netsuite.com Patrick that's netsuite.com Patrick Good luck.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Dan Patrick]

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Dan Patrick]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Pop Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adnan Virk]

What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Virkin Demers.

[Jason Demers]

Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL network analyst. And boy, oh boy, does daddy have a lot to say.

[Adnan Virk]

I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things to running it that we love. Right?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture and you know what, tons of back and forth on all things NHL.

[Adnan Virk]

Yeah, you're going to soon going to find out we're not just hockey talk. We had all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear in NHL.

[Jason Demers]

Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts Forky.

[Adnan Virk]

That shirt of kazarakus. Listen to NHL unscripted with Burkin Demers and the Iheartradio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Hall of Fame head coach Bill Cower, also part of NFL Today on CBS Studio. And oh, look who showed up early. Hi, Coach.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I found Waldo.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I told you I was going to put it. Put it up there, and we made room. There you go.

[Todd Fritz]

I appreciate that. I said stage right. That's good.

[Dan Patrick]

Does it look like you are you? Did you have to approve?

[Todd Fritz]

I have multiple bobbleheads. I had one with a gold jacket on, another one with a headset. I think this one with a headset. I had to get the one that's just the coach hall of Fame. It doesn't deserve to be on that desk. I'm a regular guy, like the policeman, like everybody else. I'm not just the old football. Football coach right next to the San Antonio traffic police guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you. Did you grow up hating Penn State?

[Todd Fritz]

Well, when they didn't offer me a scholarship, so. But my brother went there.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah. Because I'm watching the game last night, I'm like, I think your dad was at Duquesne. Like, you feel like you were a pit guy.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, I was on a recruiting trip up there, and they never offered me a scholarship. And ironically enough, my freshman year at NC State, I played as a freshman against them. And before the game, I pulled out the letter that says they didn't think I was big enough to play College Division 1 football. I said, well, we'll find out today, won't we?

[Dan Patrick]

Did you model your game after anybody?

[Todd Fritz]

No. You know, I grew up. I grew up watching Jack Lambert. Man, this. I loved him. I didn't do it. But I love Hacksaw Reynolds, when he used to chop his feet in place before the ball was snapped. Just guys. I mean, just people have their own personalities, right? And that. That's. That's.

[Kenny Dillingham]

I don't know.

[Todd Fritz]

I just. I like. Jack was my guy, Dick Buckus was my guy, and Ray Nitschke were my guys. Those were the three guys I looked at.

[Dan Patrick]

We talk about the Lions and Dan Campbell and creating culture. And it's a weird word when you create cult. Do you know how to create culture?

[Todd Fritz]

You know, I think culture is something that is manifested. I think it takes time. It's creating a building where you like to think that you walk in there. There's a selflessness about it. There's also a sense of purpose about it. There's a trust that exists, and you're able to kind of give ownership to the players, to. To oversee the locker room. And I think that's when, you know, you've gotten to that, that level. But the culture is about being real, being transparent, about holding people accountable. And you're in there for one purpose. When you walk in there, leave her, you go at the door, and we're all, we're all in this thing together.

[Dan Patrick]

When did the hatred for the Ravens start? Or. Well, both ways here?

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, I mean, I, when they, when they moved from Cleveland to, to Baltimore, I just called them the Browns. I mean, they can call themselves the Ravens, but I call them the Browns.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

And they're the same team that were up the turnpike. We just got to go, we're going to go east instead of going north. But they're still the same team. We don't like, they're still the same thing we, we take very personal with. And so, and then it probably happened right around that 2000 era when Ray Lewis came in and started doing the dance. They had to. And then we were going back and forth with the division at that time. And I think that's the real robberies are kind of bread. You know what, Dan? It's like when you have, when you are both fighting for that division and you find yourselves on top. And then we were both kind of identically built. It was about kind of a running the football play, defense, impose yourself on the other team. And we kind of all took, we took pride in that physicality part of the game. And I think the early 2000, that was absolutely identified and that's what that game was all about.

[Dan Patrick]

You don't strike me as a coach who would allow his players to be dancing like Ray Lewis did to open up a game.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, we didn't dance, but we talked a lot. I think we had a lot of guys that like to get the last word in. Joey Porter was never, never was lost for words on the field.

[Dan Patrick]

But you were okay with that?

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, I wanted edgy players. I, I didn't mind having edgy players. I, I, I, you know, I always said my job as a coach is for you to walk that line of being that almost arrogant, almost like supreme. I feel you're the best person on that field. And when you cross the line, my job is to pull you back. Where do you cross the line? When you disrespect the game, you disrespect the opponent or you disrespect a teammate, and that's dancing or doing something that's in someone's face. So I said, just as long as you respect the game, walk that line. And sometimes I felt like guys were almost too safe, too cautious, didn't want to make a mistake. And I said, if I, if I can't, I don't pull you back periodically. You're not walking the line close enough. So I kind of encouraged them to get to be a little bit of a swagger when we walked on that field.

[Dan Patrick]

Hall of Famer Bill Cower, of course, NFL Today, CBS Studio analyst. Did you ever come close to wanting to go after another coach? Punch a coach, not punch a coach.

[Todd Fritz]

But I think there's obviously the clip of me with Chris Hudson when he picked up the block field goal down at Jacksonville, walking down the sideline. And I kind of just was going to do one of those. But I blame, I. But then I blame that on the ghost of Woody Hayes. That was actually the very same sideline, very same part of the field where he punched Charlie Bowman from Clemson. So I think, I think that was this, that was the Woody Hayes that came out the same field, same part of the field. It's ironic if you go back and someone pointed that out to me and I said, well, that answers it. That couldn't have been me doing that. But no, I'm, you know, I never know. You know, I respected the game and I love to compete. I didn't like losing, but never really took it that personally. If I took it personally, I took it upon myself that we didn't do enough to win the game.

[Dan Patrick]

If I gave you the Lions or the field in the nfc, who would you take?

[Todd Fritz]

Well, right now I would say the Lions. And I say that for this reason. They are so battle tested right now. They are such a reflection of Dan Campbell. Everyone keeps talking about what they don't have and he just keeps using that for fuel to fuel this team. Aaron Glenn has done a fantastic job. Ben Johnson, I think is one of the best offensive coordinators in the league. And they're getting a little bit healthy right now. So they get a bye to get healthy. You're playing at home in Detroit. They got to win two games. I just don't know if there's a team there. You saw what they did against Minnesota. That's probably their biggest robbery if you think about that game. The only team I think that really can go in there are the Philadelphia Eagles. I think the Philadelphia Eagles has what it takes because they can run the football, they can play defense right now, and they got a really good offensive line. And if, you know, again, Jalen hurts, comes back, he's supposed to come back this week. I think that's the one team to me that I think could battle them.

[Dan Patrick]

If I gave you the Chiefs of the field in the afc.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, we've been picking against the Chiefs all season long. We keep waiting for the left foot, the shoe to drop on that team. But you know, again they're playing at home, they're getting healthy. I still look at Baltimore and Buffalo as two teams now. They're going to meet probably in a divisional round to go there. I think both those teams, kind of like the thorn in both of those teams has been the Kansas City chief. So I think either one of those two teams are going have a chance to go into to the Kansas City with a little bit of a chip on their shoulders. So I, you know, again I it's hard to pick against them, but I think there's a little bit. There's a few more teams in the AFC I think that can challenge the Chiefs. There are in the NFC that can challenge Lions.

[Dan Patrick]

What's it like to be a head coach when you want your assistance, your offensive or defensive coordinators, to be able to interview for a head coaching job. And I know this probably didn't go on when you were coaching, but now, I mean imagine you're Dan Campbell and you're probably losing both of your coordinators, but he's still there as the head coach while they're interviewing for other jobs.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, I think the first week is not a problem. I think we have the week off. I think it's not a problem with that. And I think number one, I always looked at as a fender in my cap. You know, I had eight guys that went on to become head coaches from my, from my staff. And I always looked at that as, you know, I was proud of that are very, very proud they were able to move on from us and be able to go to the next level. So I don't think, I think it's a problem is when they're interviewing during the course of the game they're having that week. I don't think I would allow that because to me the attention should be on that game because that game is also going to be a reflection on your record and on our record and it's an opportunity in the playoffs. It's single elimination. This is not best of three. So it's single elimination. And to me when you have the week of the game, that focuses on the week of the game. But the bye week, I get it, I understand it because people like to move fast in our league and I think the bonus line, and I said this, I told this to Dan is I said, the one thing we have success, and I learned this very early. You better have a backup plan. A backup plan to have your coordinators that are going to get plucked to go to become head coaches, which is a feather in your cap. It's nothing to look negatively about. But now being able to maybe work with in house and be able to promote in house, if you can do it, and that's the ideal, that atmosphere. You talk about culture, how about a great culture where you know if you stay right there, that you may have a chance to advance in your own field of employee and actually made a chance to become a head coach. So I think he has a backup plan to both those things, and I think most coaches do, but I always encourage them that when you have success, the first thing you better do is have a backup plan for your assistant coaches.

[Dan Patrick]

You got a story about Roethlisberger frustrating you. Well, did he always listen to you when you called in plays?

[Todd Fritz]

Well, he would do one of these things. Like he said, no, no, he'd say that.

[Dan Patrick]

He could say, oh, I.

[Todd Fritz]

It's not working. I said, well, their communication's not working. They go, I think it is. I go, well, let's check his helmet gets out. We grabbed, I just grabbed his helmet one time. So we grabbed his helmet. They go, coach, it's working fine. He goes, it just came back on. I go, no, that's not. I go, that is not a true statement then. I know it. I said, it's not. You can't. I can't hear it now in front of your calm plays. So the interesting question now, I'm going to sit down. I always wonder about this, and I wanted to talk to Sean McDermott and I'm going to ask him when I sit down with him later on today, matter of fact. And when Josh Allen breaks the pocket, it was almost like when Ben used to break the pocket. It was like, oh, no, here we go again. It's street ball. I don't know what's going to happen is kind of buckle your seatbelt and it's just like, oh, oh, my God, here he goes again. Just don't be careless, don't be reckless, and big plays will happen. And Troy Ponamalu, he's supposed to be playing half the field. I see him start to creep up to the line of scrimmage. I'm going, is he going to drop or not? I don't even know. Like, so I, I. So you wonder what goes through your stomach. But I always, always say, great players, Troy Palmalu, Ben Roethlisberger, you can't harness greatness. And sometimes you want that to become an unbridled feeling that they have on that field where they can take over a game, and most of the times they do. Now, sometimes you're going to live with the mistakes that they have and the choices that they make. But, man, you want these guys in your. On your team, and you know through the course of time that their decision making is going to be the right thing. But you know what? In the meantime, though, you sit there, your stomach's turn, you're like a fan. Like, oh, boy, here we go again. I don't know what's going to happen. Like, that was a great play. Yeah, sure was. So you kind of just go. You turn into a fan. Watching this go. Oh, this will be interesting to see what happens here. He's running to the right, throwing it back to the left, and, you know, gets this, okay, you know, and sometimes those are the plays that, you know that. That win championships and win games, and sometimes it's. They're not the things they make up. It's the players that you entrust with the system that they kind of take it to another level.

[Dan Patrick]

Safe travels. Thanks for the bobblehead. We appreciate it.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, coach.

[Todd Fritz]

Thanks, Dan. Always a pleasure to be on.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adnan Virk]

What's up, everybody? Adnan Virk here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demerge.

[Jason Demers]

Jason Immers here, And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.

[Adnan Virk]

Hey, I got a lot to say here, too, okay? Each week, we'll get together to chat about the sport that we love.

[Jason Demers]

Tons of guests are going to join in, too. But we're not just going to be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies, we're talking tv, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on le table.

[Adnan Virk]

Listen to NHL Unscripted with Virk and demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.