The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show — Best of March 12, 2026

Overview

This episode of "The Dan Patrick Show" is a lively mix of sports analysis, humor, and candid conversation. Dan Patrick and his crew dive into two major topics: Bam Adebayo’s controversial 83-point NBA game and its effect on Kobe Bryant’s legacy, and the convoluted NFL saga involving Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson, and the Baltimore Ravens. They’re joined by recurrent guest analyst Ross Tucker for insights and plenty of friendly banter.

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Main Discussion: Bam Adebayo’s 83-Point Game & NBA Scoring (02:25–14:20)

Legacy and Controversy

• Dan Patrick opens with a spirited debate about the backlash over Bam Adebayo’s 83-point performance, which broke Kobe Bryant’s 81-point record but fell short of Wilt Chamberlain’s mythical 100.

  • "We hold on for dear life to legacies. ... The outpouring of support and love that, hey, Kobe deserves better than this, that Bam should have stopped and maybe, you know, paid tribute to one of his idols." (Dan Patrick, 02:25)

• Key Criticisms: Some respected basketball voices (like Robert Horry) were upset by what they saw as "unnatural" stat-padding in the fourth quarter — drawing intentional fouls and engineering plays to boost Bam’s point total.

  • "They were bothered by the esthetics of how the record was set or broken. It’s hard to play defense in the NBA now. ... Bam Adebayo took advantage of that. He took advantage of a bad Wizards team. But if you’re putting up at least 60 points at the end of three quarters, I have to acknowledge you had an incredible night." (Dan Patrick, 04:25)

• Comparisons to History: The crew points out that legendary scoring feats, like Wilt’s 100, came against weak teams and were stat-padded, too. Kobe’s legendary 81 came against a non-contender Raptors squad.

  • "No one was there when Wilt did this... Wilt was chasing 100 points that night. I know the game was already out of hand. Now it was about Wilt getting 100 points." (Dan Patrick, 03:25)
  • "If LeBron had scored 81 and Bam Adebayo scored 83, I don’t think people would have nearly the problem, because LeBron’s not beloved. Kobe is beloved." (Dan Patrick, 09:49)

The Changing Game: NBA Scoring Explodes

• Fast-Paced Era: Dan highlights how NBA scoring has soared; the average team now scores 115 PPG, up from under 95 in 2000. Teams are jacking up 37 threes a game (vs. 14 in 2000), and even 130 points sometimes isn't enough to win.

  • "In 2000, teams averaged just a little under 95 points per game. In 2026, teams are averaging 115 points per game." (Dan Patrick, 06:34)
  • "25 games this season, teams scored 130 and lost." (Dan Patrick, 07:41)

• Three-Point Revolution: Steph Curry credited as the accelerant for this trend.

  • "It all goes back to Steph Curry. ... In 2013, teams attempted 21 threes per game. Four years later, it was 32." (Paulie, 08:57)

The Kobe Factor

• The crew marvels at how much the backlash is about love for Kobe Bryant’s legacy—especially since Bam’s game was "only" the second-highest ever, not breaking Wilt’s record. Some speculate Kobe would have told Bam to "go for it."

  • "If Kobe were alive and able to ask that question, what would you have wanted him to do? I’m going to guess Kobe would probably say go for it, knowing Kobe’s mentality." (Dan Patrick, 10:08)
  • "Since Kobe doesn’t play anymore, I forgot how Kobe stands are. … Oh, they were mad." (Ross Tucker, 14:12)

• Free Throw Critique: A network showed that if you remove free throws, Bam’s night wouldn’t even crack the top 70 scoring games: "Congratulations, Bam. You’re the second highest scoring game in NBA history." (Dan Patrick, 13:09)

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NFL Roundtable: Max Crosby, Ravens, and Free Agency Drama (19:35–33:29)

Ross Tucker’s Insider Perspective

• Ross Tucker, a frequent guest and former NFL player, joins to comment on the shady Max Crosby-Ravens trade breakdown.

  • [19:35] Dan Patrick: "Let's bring in Ross Tucker, our good buddy. Ross, what do you make of this situation?"

• Ross’s Story: Ross shares his own tale of failing a team physical—and how teams don’t have to be transparent about their decisions.

  • "You failed your physical. We’re going to take you back to the airport. ... That was it. Never even made it to [the Falcons] facility." (Ross Tucker, 21:01)
  • "That’s an amazing question. ... And the answer is no, because I called the Falcons trainer ... They don’t have to tell you." (Ross Tucker, 22:54)

• Ravens’ Buyer’s Remorse? Dan speculates that Baltimore may have gotten cold feet after seeing the costs—two first-rounders and a big contract extension.

  • "It felt like maybe the reality set in... Do we need to do this?" (Dan Patrick, 23:51)
  • "What most people believe happened." (Ross Tucker, 24:32)

• The Cover Story: The Ravens claimed they planned to pair Crosby with Trey Hendrickson, but the timing is suspect.

  • "My initial reaction was, why don’t we check the phone records? ... The Ravens are one step ahead of me and everybody else by saying, ‘No, we were trying to get them both.’" (Ross Tucker, 24:32)

• Ross’s Verdict: "I’d say it’s 50-50 whether Crosby plays for the Raiders or not this year. ... If I had to bet, he still goes somewhere else for a little bit less than what the Ravens offered." (Ross Tucker, 26:27)

Kyler Murray to Minnesota?

• Ross discusses the Vikings’ pursuit of Kyler Murray:

  • "It might not work for the same reason it’s never totally worked with Kyler Murray, and that’s because of his incredible inconsistency." (Ross Tucker, 28:02)

• The buzz: Murray is pitching a one-year audition to multiple teams via Zoom—unprecedented in NFL circles.

• Work Ethic Red Flag: Ross brings up Murray’s infamous "homework clause" and how rare it is for an NFL team to question a quarterback’s preparation.

  • "The day the Cardinals front office said ‘let’s give him this massive deal, but we gotta make sure he’s preparing ... let's put something in there where he has to do four hours of homework,’ that's the exact second where you don’t give him the hundred million dollars." (Ross Tucker, 30:19)

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Sports and Pop Culture Tidbits (39:18–51:49)

World Baseball Classic, NCAA March Madness, and More

• World Baseball Classic: Dan and the crew comment on how few players on Italy’s team are actually Italian-born (just 3 out of 30), poking fun at team eligibility rules and their own heritage via 23andMe results.

  • "Of Team Italy, three born in Italy, 24 from the USA, two from Venezuela, one from Canada." (Dan Patrick, 39:18)

• NCAA Notes: Brief mention of Bobby Hurley’s firing at Arizona State, coaching connections (the Hurleys), and Indiana’s unexpected status as a "football school."

NFL: Expanding to Thanksgiving Eve?

• Rumors swirl about the NFL adding a Wednesday Night Football game before Thanksgiving, squeezing out NBA programming and fueling debate about "too much football."

  • "Wasn't there something to be said, remember the days ... your favorite TV show is on ... there’s something that builds up ... as opposed to just having it every day? Wouldn’t that take away some of the...?" (Ross Tucker, 48:52)

• Dan on NFL Oversaturation: "I think we’re getting to an oversaturating point. ... I don’t think we need the NFL every single day." (Dan Patrick, 49:10)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On legacy obsession:
  • "We hold on for dear life to legacies." (Dan Patrick, 02:25)
• On Kobe fans’ outrage:
  • "Since Kobe doesn’t play anymore, I forgot how Kobe stands are. And they were out in... Oh, they were mad." (Ross Tucker, 14:12)
• On NFL trades and honesty:
  • "My initial reaction was, why don’t we go ahead and check the phone records?" (Ross Tucker, 24:32)
• On football’s business side:
  • "Is that totally bogus or hey, is this just business? And they realized this was a better decision and business is business. I think reasonable minds can disagree on that." (Ross Tucker, 25:50)
• On Kyler Murray’s work ethic:
  • "People don’t change that much. People kind of are what they are." (Ross Tucker, 31:06)
• Joking about being bumped for a prettier guest:
  • "Diana is more attractive than you. We want to go with her. And that’s the part that really hurt me." (Ross Tucker, 32:46)

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Segment Timestamps

• 02:25 – 14:20: Bam Adebayo 83 points, NBA scoring, and Kobe debate
• 19:35 – 33:29: Full Ross Tucker interview: NFL physicals, Crosby/Hendrickson trade, Kyler Murray
• 39:18 – 43:39: Baseball Classic funny stats, NCAA coaching carousel, Indiana basketball hot take
• 47:12 – 51:49: NFL Thanksgiving eve game rumors, oversaturation debate, youth sports viewing habits

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Summary

Dan Patrick and his crew offer spirited, nuanced takes on the biggest stories in sports—blending stats, history, and humor. This episode is essential listening if you care about sports legacies (especially basketball), inside stories from NFL free agency, and the evolving landscape of sports fandom in the age of fantasy and gambling. Ross Tucker's stories and self-deprecating humor put the NFL business in perspective, while the Danettes' banter keeps it entertaining throughout.

Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Ross Tucker]

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[Ross Tucker]

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. The Bam out of Bio situation. We hold on for dear life to legacies. When you think about it. So Bam and Kobe. So this is just second on the all time list. But you know the outpouring of support and love that hey Kobe deserves better than this that Bam should have stopped and maybe, you know, paid tribute to one of his idols, Roger Maris and Babe Ruth. You know, people thought, well, somebody's going to break Babe Ruth's record. It should be Mickey Mantle, not Roger Maris. And he played in 162. Babe had 154 games. About Barry Bonds and Hank Aaron. How dare they let somebody as dirty as Barry Bonds beat the ultra clean Hank Aaron. Miles Garrett, Michael Strahan, to a lesser degree, I don't think anybody had a problem with that. It was when Michael Strahan moved past Mark Gastonau, but Gastono wasn't a beloved guy. It was just the way that Michael Strahan was afforded that sack against Brett Favre. But those are just some examples. You'll probably have a few more for me. But bam, Adebayo with 83, and it just feels like the old school NBA fan or analyst is like, how dare you make a mockery of the game? Well, no one was there when Wilt did this, but Wilt was chasing 100 points that night, and nobody talks about that. We talk about 100 points. Wilt was chasing 100 points that night. I know the. The game was already out of hand. Now it was about Wilt getting 100 points. Bam. Adebayo still put up over 60 points through three quarters. You can talk about the fourth quarter, but let's please acknowledge the first quarter had 31. That had nothing to do with some scheming game plan to draw fouls. He put up 31. Eric Spolster, the Miami Heat head coach, then realized maybe there was something special and he was going to let him have a special night. Then you go for 62 at halftime. So 62 legitimately. 62 at the end of three. I'm sorry. So those are all legitimate. Thank you, Paulie. They're. They're. That's legitimate there. Now, did the fourth quarter get out of hand? It did, but he still put up 83. And I think we get caught up in this vacuum of how dare he do that? You know, it. And we can't speak for Kobe. I mean, I did ask the question of what do you think Kobe would think? Jason Jackson, the, you know, the voice of the Miami Heat, I asked him, he said, well, that was, you know, Bam Adebayo's idol. I don't know. I mean, if we have Bam on the show, I'll ask him, did he give any thought to maybe not going for the record, but he has it as the second highest score. I don't. I don't Know if we've ever been that upset about a situation where somebody didn't even break the record. They just broke Kobe's record. Yeah. Paulie. A lot of people who cover basketball, not just fans who might be angry, but serious basketball people. Robert Horry, who played basketball, were very, very bothered by the fourth quarter. They said that wasn't basketball. That was a quest to pass a certain player and get to 83, 82 points. And the Heat fouling. That's not natural. The throwing the ball off the backboard on a free throw, that's not natural. They were bothered by the esthetics of how the record was set or broken. It's hard to play defense in the NBA Now. I think we can all agree everything feels like a foul. And bam. Adebayo took advantage of that. He took advantage of a bad Wizards team. But if you're still putting up at least 60 points at the end of three quarters, I have to acknowledge that you had an incredible night. And yes. Was the game out of hand? Yes. Were they trying to get him to 83 or 82? Yes. Did the Wizards double team, triple team? Were they fouling? Yes. All of these things. But it still comes down to you had to stop him. Everybody gets to play against the Wizards at least twice a year now. A lot of guys get career highs or season highs against the Wizards, but 83, still 83. And I was looking at the NBA scoring. In 2000, teams averaged just a little under 95 points per game. In 2026, teams are averaging 115 points per game. And I was looking to see how many teams have lost a game this season while scoring at least 130 points. At last count, I had 25 games. Teams scored 130 and lost. In 2000, teams averaged 91 possessions per game. This year, 99 possessions per game. Back in 2000, teams averaged just under 14 three point attempts per game. This year, teams are averaging 37 three point attempts per game. Stat of the day. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Yes, Seaton. 130 points and they lost. Yes. I have 25 games at last count. Wow. Why did you. Did you think it would be more? No, I thought It'd be like 120. Maybe if you, you score 120 points, you should win the game 130 points and lose the game 25 times. I think somebody lost 150 to 147. Now we've had some double overtime games, but yeah, I'm looking at the numbers here, and unless Google is failing me, but, you know, I got 1301-341371-34132, 1361-381301-32150, 135, 133. Yeah, I got 25 games so far. That's crazy. I don't even know if I've tabulated March yet, but that's. There might be more. Might be close to 30 times. Yes, Todd. And you only have yourself to blame.

[Ross Tucker]

In the sport of basketball, you're playing offense and defense.

[Dan Patrick]

It's not like the NFL.

[Ross Tucker]

It's like we scored all these points

[Dan Patrick]

and we're still losing. What's going on on the other side of the ball? Yes, Paulie, I went back and looked at this, and it all goes back to Steph Curry. STEPH CURRY In 2014, before he had his breakout season, NBA teams attempted 17. Actually, check that. 21 threes per game. 21 threes attempted per game. In 2013. Four years later, it was 32 threes attempted per game. Every other stat is the same. Generally, shots per game, fouls per game, shooting percentage. Everything else is generally the same. Well, if you're looking back in 2000, there's eight possessions more per team per game. So that's a lot. Yes, Marvin. It's kind of like the Ravens at

[Ross Tucker]

the beginning of last football season where they're scoring 40 points and losing. Like, come on, you can't score that many points in a professional setting and lose. Pathetic.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I feel bad for Bam out of bio. It's like, how dare you? How Dare you score 83 points? But, you know, and some of the Danets brought this up yesterday, that this might be more about Kobe being beloved. If LeBron had scored 81 and Bam Adebayo scored 83, I don't think people would have nearly the problem because LeBron's not beloved. Kobe is beloved. And I think because of that, it's like, you know, bam, why didn't you stop at 81? I think if Kobe were alive and able to ask that question, what would you have wanted him to do? I'm going to guess Kobe would probably say go for it, knowing Kobe's mentality, but can't speak for him. But having, you know, the number of conversations we've had with him on this show, he was a Shark. It's full speed ahead and go for it. Also, when Wilt scored 100, has anybody looked at the Knicks Lineup. Has anybody looked at the Knicks big men guarding him? The Knicks were one of the worst teams. The Raptors weren't any good when they were facing Kobe. It's like, let's just be fair to the entire picture, the totality of what Bam Adebayo did, what he accomplished. And yes, the Wizards are bad. The Knicks were bad back in 1962, but nobody brings that up. Nobody brings up that Wilt was chasing 100 points. Yes, Mark.

[Ross Tucker]

And the fact that Kobe's no longer here with us makes it even worse. If he was here, he may have been able to call off the dogs and maybe send out a tweet or even send, like, a personal message like they do on, like, the scoreboard after a game or whatever.

[Dan Patrick]

And so now that he's no longer

[Ross Tucker]

here, it makes it even worse. That's the thing about people passing away early, especially entertainers, where it's like, he would have wanted this. Well, we don't know what he would have wanted. And so now you're speaking for him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Jordan sent just a congratulations to him, but he didn't say, hey, congrats. You made a mockery of, you know, the sport in the last month or last. That wouldn't have been very nice. No, probably not. That's not necessary. But you know how Jordan is. You know, I'm surprised he didn't. He could kind of poke you a little bit, you know, hey, congratulations on three legitimate quarters that you played. Yes, Paulie. I do wonder, though, if we had Kobe Bryant on yesterday and you asked him about that fourth quarter order, he'd be polite and congratulatory. But I think he may also say, did it feel like a basketball game? Did it feel like a competition? Because his was a competition. I could see him maybe taking a little line like that. Maybe, maybe. But this is one of Bam's idols growing up. And then you surpass. It's not even the record. That's the amazing part. It's the second best scoring game of all time. Now people are saying, well, you know, if you take away free throws, how many points? You know, where would he rank all time? I'm like, but you can't take away free throws. You know, when Wilt scored 100, he had 32 free throws. He made 28. But, you know, you shoot 43. I mean, it's embarrassing that there were that many fouls called at some point. At some point. And I had a former officials say this to me yesterday, at some point. I know they're making a mockery of it. And I am going to make a mockery of it as well. I'm not calling all of these fouls because you know what's happening here. And then you're just going to say, I'm not going to let you just keep fouling or get fouls and make this about the free throw line. Now, that's a former official saying that. Yes, Paulie, I do have that statement that a network posted this yesterday. If you remove free throws, who's the had the greatest scoring night of all time? Wilt, 72 points, Kobe, 63 points, and then a bunch of Wilt games. Bam. Would have been 73rd ranked all time with 48 points in the game. You take away the free throws, you take away the three points. I mean. Okay. All right. Well, congratulations, Bam. You're the second highest scoring game in NBA history. All right, Seaton, you got. Yes, Marvin.

[Ross Tucker]

And since Kobe doesn't play anymore, I forgot how Kobe stands are. And they were out in.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, they were mad.

[Ross Tucker]

Oh, they were mad.

[Dan Patrick]

Imagine if he surpassed Michael Jordan in a game. Sorry, you can't do that. Well, I got lightheaded. Yes. You know what they're going to be when they realize where Kobe's last 12 points of that came from? From the free throw line. I know. Yeah, we should look it up. I think. I think a considerable number of those were 1 point baskets. Oh, I know. Who knew? Who knew that you could. You could have this kind of accomplishment and you could set people off, man. All right, so I have a full question. Our good buddy Ross Tucker will join us. That Max Crosby situation is shady at best. And then the GM for the Ravens, Eric Dacosta said, well, we were looking at bringing in Trey Hendrickson and Max Crosby. Okay. Also, Kyler Murray set to, I believe, meet with the Vikings today. Doesn't sound like there's another suitor for him, but I think it's the right place for him. I thought the Colts maybe if they didn't go in with Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is the new Kirk Cousins. It's like, how did he get that contract? But he did, coming off an injury paying him $44 million a year. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app Stugats here I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stegots and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls. I love you guys show. It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction, guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugatson Co. And Stugots Co. Live. So listen to Stugatson Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugots Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. At vrbo, we understand that even the best of plans sometimes need a little support. So we plan for the plot twists. Every booking is automatically backed by our VRBO Care guarantee, giving you confidence from the very start. Whenever you need help, it's ready before your stay, through the moments in between and after your trip. Because a great trip starts with peace of mind and maybe a good playlist. But we've got the peace of mind part covered. Come check this. Iheart and TikTok have come together to create something new. I love it. Where the world of TikTok meets your playlist.

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[Ross Tucker]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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and ways to save. Let's bring in Ross Tucker, our good buddy. Ross, what do you make of this situation?

[Ross Tucker]

Well, first of all, Dan, I've been in that situation before that Max was in. So you got the right guy today. Would have been the right guy yesterday too, Fritzi, but you got the right guy today.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Ross Tucker]

Bumped him for Diana Racine.

[Dan Patrick]

And he's kidding. Wow. I didn't know you got bumped. Okay.

[Ross Tucker]

Oh, yeah, no, it's only been like 10 years. I thought Fritzi and I were like friends or whatever. Like I, you know, I come on pretty much every week whenever Fritz, he asks. But I guess if Diana Rossini needs to move it, I get bumped. I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, hold on, Ross. Let me let Fritzi at least have a word here.

[Ross Tucker]

It was less of a bump, more of a reschedule. What happens was Diana was, you know,

[Dan Patrick]

working the phones and doing her thing and she initially thought she had to come on earlier. Then something changed with who she needed to speak with, and then she had to make it later and Ross was in the final hour.

[Ross Tucker]

And we thought it would wouldn't serve the show best to have them on

[Dan Patrick]

top of each other as back to back NFL guests covering a lot of the same topics.

[Ross Tucker]

And so we rescheduled, not bumped, roster today and we had an extra day to promote it.

[Dan Patrick]

And that's really how I see it. And I hope Ross doesn't have a hurt feelings about that on social media. He seems to, though.

[Ross Tucker]

Well, essentially, Dan, what happened is Diana Rossini was Trey Hendrickson and I was Max Crosby and Fritzi is the Ravens.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm a terrible person.

[Ross Tucker]

No, I will say this, though. This is for you guys will love this. Okay. 2007, I was a free agent. The first day of free agency, I went to the Redskins and they offered me a very Modest contract, of course. Modest signing bonus. Pass the physical, the whole deal. Then I fly to Atlanta. I'm in a downtown Atlanta hotel. The next day, we get picked up in a limo. It's just me and Joe Horn. Joe Horn's gonna sign for, like, over $10 million a year. I guess they had the limo anyway, so they let me ride in it, and we went to the doctor's office in downtown Atlanta. You know, we get the mri, we get the whole deal, the scan. We meet with the doctors. We get back in the limo. The limo is not moving. We're in the limo outside. Limo's not moving. All of a sudden, the limo door opens up, and some guy from the Falcon says, ross, can you come here? I said, okay. I get out of the limo, and he's like, I'm Anthony, blah, blah, blah. You failed your physical. We're going to take you back to the airport. That was it. I never even made it to Flowery Branch, the Falcons facility. Never talked to the coach, Bobby Petrino, or the GM or anybody. I just went right back to the airport. While I'm in this guy's car, I call my agent. I'm like, tell the Redskins we accept. So I actually know what it's like to fail a physical. That's evidence that one team can pass you and another team can't. And that was my experience with it. I had already been cut several times. A little different than Max Crosby, but, yes, that is the. It was not much of a conversation, was, we're taking you back to the airport.

[Dan Patrick]

Now. Do the Ravens have to tell Max Crosby what part of him you know, why did he fail that physical?

[Ross Tucker]

That is an amazing question. That's the best question I've heard yet. And the answer is no, because I called the Falcons trainer. Because, listen, I already played six years. I was 28 years old. I wanted to know what they saw, like, why did you guys fail me on the physical? And they started talking about things. I'm like, that's not true. Like, that. That I don't have that. And then they got another guy on the. On the phone. He's like, listen, Ross, you had disc surgery at multiple levels. We see some chronic whatever. Like, we're not taking that chance. And I thought, okay, but that's an awesome question, Dan, why you're the best interviewer because they don't have to tell you. But I wanted to know, for my own edification, like, for the rest, should I just not play anymore if it's so bad I fail physical? Maybe I shouldn't keep playing football.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I'm just trying to sort through this. And I really came to the realization yesterday that maybe this was just buyers remorse that the Ravens making a move, giving up two first round picks and then going, we got to pay him that kind of money. Is he going to want a contract extension? We got to redo Lamar's contract. So it felt like they maybe the reality set in of do we need to do this? Because this is an awful lot. Why don't we just sign somebody who's not as good for a little less money and we don't have to give up two first round draft picks in Trey Hendrickson?

[Ross Tucker]

Well, I would say that in talking with some people in the NFL, that's what most people believe happened. And what I think is so fascinating about it is my initial reaction was, why don't we go ahead and check the phone records? Did you, did you call Trey Hendrickson before Crosby got there? Was it after Crosby got there? But I think the Ravens are one step ahead of me and everybody else by saying, oh no, we were trying to get them both because if anybody checked and anybody did research or talked to Trey Hendrickson or his agent or looked at phone records, they clearly were talking with him before then. And so I don't know. I'm kind of with you. And on the poll question, I would say I don't. I mean, do I believe that the Ravens might have had a dream of having both Hendrickson and Crosby? Yes. Do I think that they thought that was realistic? Absolutely. Not. That when there's all these other teams out there like the Bills and the Bears and the Colts and the Eagles or whoever, looking for an edge rusher. Do I think that the Ravens thought it was realistic that they could get two and those other teams get zero? No, I don't. I think what the real question now is, is let's all just assume, okay, that they did get cold feet, they did get buyer's remorse. Is that totally bogus? Is that totally BS or hey, is this just business? And they realized this was a better decision and business is business. I think reasonable minds can disagree on that.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One NFL college football analyst and host of Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow him on social media at Ross Tucker, NFL what do the Raiders do now?

[Ross Tucker]

Well, that's interesting. Fortunately for them, they still have the money to take Max back. You know, they're absolutely going to listen. They trade him once. I think if they get an offer that they're still comfortable with that they would still move him. I think now you know, whether it's Max's doctor, the Raiders doctors, there's a lot going on out there, kind of like a he said, she said about what's really going on with Max's knee. This might be something where the Raiders revisited around the draft. It might be something, Dan, where they revisit it in July when they know he can pass a physical, they know he'll be cleared and then the team that would be trading for him, number one, would be taking on less risk and number two, the draft choices that they would trade wouldn't have to be until 2027. So on some level, you know, you can be a team where you still take your first round pick in 26, but then maybe still get Max Crosby. I don't think that this is the end of it. I'd say it's 5050 whether Crosby plays for the Raiders or not this year. If I had to bet on flipping that coin, I would bet he still goes somewhere else for a little bit less than what the Ravens offered

[Dan Patrick]

Kyler Murray. It feels like all signs point towards Minnesota. Tell me why this works and why it might not work.

[Ross Tucker]

Well, it might not work for the same reason it's never totally worked with Kyler Murray and that's because of his incredible inconsistency. You know, you would think after seven years that you have a pretty good idea of what you're going to get from a player on a week in and week out basis. That is not the case with Kyler and that's really, really tough for any organization, any coaching staff, you know, even like Kirk Cousins. You kind of know what he is and what you're going to get with Kyler. Dan, it's like a week to week deal. I mean, there are weeks where and I don't know if it's his preparation or he doesn't adjust as well if the defense is not what he was expecting. But there are weeks where he looks as good as anybody. He can play an MVP caliber level. He can put the team on his back and play awesome. There's also weeks where He's a bottom 10 quarterback. He's very rarely in the middle. He's usually either really hot and plays really well or really poor. I think Kevin o' Connell believes he's seen enough of the really hot days that he can get Kyler to play with more consistency. This whole deal where Kyler is reportedly talking with three to five teams today about 2027 and doing Zooms with them is Fascinating. He's basically saying, I'm going to go do what Sam Darnold did. I'm going to have a great year for the Vikings. What would your interest level be next year after I do this? I mean, I've never heard of this before, but obviously it's a pretty big bet for the Vikings. They just fired their gm. You know, they're already seemingly throwing the towel in on J.J. mcCarthy. So O', Connell, I mean, they gotta. They gotta make it work with Kyler Murray, otherwise there might be more changes in Minnesota.

[Dan Patrick]

How often in your career would you ever question the work ethic of your quarterback?

[Ross Tucker]

Very, very rarely. Very rarely. And if you did, it's a major problem. I mean, that's a terrific point because the day, as soon as the Cardinals front office in a meeting said, okay, let's give him this massive deal, but we got to make sure he's preparing. I know it's a hundred million guaranteed, but let's put something in there where he has to do four hours of homework a night and can't play video games. Dan, that's the exact second where you don't give them the hundred million dollars. You can't do that. People don't change that much. People kind of are what they are. You know, I play with Brady. Absolute psycho when it came to preparation. You know, most the other guys I was around, you didn't have to question them in that regard. Interestingly, you know, I've had Steelers guys tell me that early in Ben's career, he was kind of the last guy to get their first guy to leave. And they still had that much success, and he still had that much success. That would seem to me to be very, very rare. And the issue for a guy like Kyler, if you've ever seen his high school highlights, it's the craziest thing you've ever seen. So when you're in 10th grade and you're basically the state player of the year in Texas, at the highest level, you never lose a game for three years. You in college, you win the Heisman, the number one pick, he's never really had to do it. You know, he's always been able to play at a really high level without doing it. Maybe this is the wake up call, or maybe o' Connell can just put him in a situation where he can excel without maybe being as much of a student of the game as some of the other guys are.

[Dan Patrick]

Great to see it and great to talk to you. And I feel really bad that Fritzi did this to you. And if you'd like for me to suspend him or fire him, then I'll. You just say the word, Ross.

[Ross Tucker]

No, I think that's a little harsh. I think I'll probably feel better about it by next week. I'm just a little hurt. I'm just a little hurt. So I was not going to say no, though, because of how I feel about you and Paulie and Seaton and Marvin.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Ross Tucker]

But as it relates to Fritzi, I mean, within the last month, Fritz, he thought I was doing the super bowl in London for some reason, and. And now he bumps me because his text said, diana is more attractive than you. We wanted. We want to go with her. And that's the part that really hurt me.

[Dan Patrick]

And I'm gonna back Fritzi on that. Yes. Yes, Paulie. You know, Ross, you could look at this the other way. You are the one and only featured guest on today's show. It's your own stage.

[Ross Tucker]

I know. My mom texted me and said it's the best guest lift Fritz. He has ever. We are piling on, aren't we?

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Ross.

[Ross Tucker]

Sorry, Ross. You guys.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Ross Tucker]

I'm gonna say 6.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Seaton. I'll be more optimistic. I'll say 10. All right, Marvin. 4. All right, Paul. 7. 3. 3. Stat of the day. Of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that. What? What of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the DP show 24 from the United States, three from Italy, two from Venezuela, and one from Canada. And Team USA benefits because now you have the elimination round. You have Team USA facing Canada tomorrow night. Italy plays Puerto Rico in the quarterfinals on Saturday. Yes. Paul. Dan, just to Be balanced. I've got USA's baseball roster here. Zero players from Italy born on our roster. Zero. Yes. Does it take away from the World Baseball Classic that it's basically just Americans going by their nationalities? Like, where. Where's Ireland? Out there. Can we get it? Can we field a team of Irishmen? Soccer does this, doesn't it, with the World Cup? I guess. I think you have to be a citizen. So I'm guessing that everybody is a citizen of the teams that they're playing for. Like, you could have dual citizen, dual citizenship, right? Right. I'm assuming that that's the case. But I don't know. If I was from United States and I played for Italy, I would demand that I get dual citizenship. I think you gotta give me something other than the opportunity to play in the World Baseball Classic. But it's been fun. I've watched a whole lot more than I thought I was going to and watched Italy. Now I'd have to go to my 23andMe and look at that and see who I would play for. How many options would you have? Well, I think I've got a Great Britain. I could probably play for Great Britain, Ireland, Wales, Scotland. They're not playing baseball. I got the 1 1/2% eskenazi. So team Israel, there you go. We'll take you. All right. There's like 1% West Africa. So I don't know, do they. Did they have a team? I'm not quite sure. You start to look at your 23 and me and you go, I got some questions about, you know, whatever happened down through the years here. How do we get, you know, some of these countries in there? The 1%, 2%. Yes, that's my 23. Me was arguably, it was simultaneously great and the most boring of all time because it was like 99.9%, you know, English or, you know, Irish, UK, British, like, whatever. It was all concentrated right there. But you'll get those stragglers like that one and a half percent. You're like, what happened here? But mine was a little more interesting than I thought it was going to be, because I thought it was going to be all, you know, the Emerald Isle. But turns out that there were some. Some rogue percentages in there. All right, so Team USA gets Canada on Friday night, and Italy moves on to take on Puerto Rico. A couple of college basketball notes. You had McNeese, not McNeese State anymore. Lehigh and Idaho, they get their tournament bids. Bobby Hurley's out at Arizona State. Syracuse has a job opening and I'm thinking Jerry McNamara. Uh, now he's got a tournament bid with Siena. And then after that, then he takes the 2 hour and 15 minute drive from Siena College to Syracuse to take over at his alma mater. What about Bobby Hurley joining Danny Hurley at UConn? Could you imagine him as an assistant coach there? They were. They were on the same team, right, Marvin? Does that sound right?

[Ross Tucker]

It was correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Bobby and Dan. Yeah.

[Ross Tucker]

Yep. Years ago. I think they were both coaches on the same. Same team.

[Dan Patrick]

But was Danny with Bobby at Buffalo or was it Wagner? Bobby Hurley was with Danny Hurley for two seasons at Wagner College and one season at University of Rhode Island. Oh, okay. Yeah. So Bobby Hurley is out at Arizona State. Here's another thing. The same year Indiana football wins the national title, the basketball team goes 18 and 14. Lost to Northwestern yesterday by 13 to get knocked out of the Big Ten tournament. Indiana is a football school, much to the chagrin of the state. That's a basketball state. But for Indiana basketball, like 15, 20 years ago, this would be a huge deal if this happened to Indiana basketball. Now, when's the last time you talked about Indiana basketball? When's the last time they had a player that you talked about with Indiana basketball? That's what's pretty surprising here. NFL free agency slowing down. Although you still have Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray is going to be probably visiting Minnesota or might be a zoom call based on what Ross Tucker was talking about, that Kyler Murray wants to know after this season if I have, you know, if I'm correctly reading what Ross Tucker was saying, that, hey, I'm going to go and play for one year. I want to know who's going to be interested in me after this. If that's what Ross Tucker was actually describing, that maybe I go to Minnesota, I want to know, is somebody, you know, looking at me long term, that he has three to five zoom calls that coming up this week, which is kind of surprising. I don't know why I would tip my hand and say, hey, we'll be interested in you in a year from now. I mean, in the NFL at that position, things change. Daniel Jones got paid $44 million a year. The new Kirk Cousins in the NFL, and good for him. I. I was surprised at that amount. But Daniel Jones was a thing there for about 10 games and then not a thing after that. Yes. He's going to end up making just an unbelievable amount of money. Yeah. Can we do career salary game with Daniel Jones? Can with this contract or without? With this contract? Salary, salary, salary Salary, salary, salary. Here we go. Two part game. Daniel Jones, how much has he made and will he make after this contract? Based off the minimum he can make. What has he made already? A little hint. In 2023, he made $46 million with the Giants. What has he made so far? Let's just combine it, okay? Yeah. Let's make it easier. I don't know if it's easier, but make it just one total. Todd, you want to throw out Daniel Jones will make after this contract. How many millions of dollars?

[Ross Tucker]

227 million.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, I'm gonna say 253. Marvin?

[Ross Tucker]

281.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna go 239. 5. Throwing in the 5. 258 million dollars. Oh, dang. I was close. Yes. All right. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. Let me see the NFL. I get that 5 million difference that I was off by the 5 I get then that you win that. Yeah. Jones owns that. Owes that to me. NFL's looking at the night before Thanksgiving, the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving, when there's three games on Thanksgiving, and why not cram another one in there now? Social media was like, oh, you know, I don't like this at all. And. But you're still going to watch it. Like, it. The NFL, you can't deny, like, there's other sports or other events where you go, I'm not going to watch it. It's the NFL. You'll watch. What else is going to be on. You're going to be maybe going to the bar. Usually people on that Wednesday night before Thanksgiving, coming back home, and you get together with, you know, former classmates, but you're going to have a game on, and that's what they're looking at Wednesday night, the night before Thanksgiving. I keep wondering, what is the downside? I. I don't know if there is, because you're going to. They have you. It'll be fantasy, it'll be gambling, and it'll be. Nothing else is on. And you'll watch. Yes. Todd, wasn't. Isn't there something to be said? Remember the days of, like, you're waiting

[Ross Tucker]

once a week, your favorite TV show is on, and that's.

[Dan Patrick]

That's the big day, and you can't wait, and they have a tease at the end and you. And there's something that builds up as opposed to, you know, just having it every day. Wouldn't that take away some of the. Okay, Todd, would you want to go back to 1985 when there's two games, maybe three games available? I'd like a few more than that,

[Ross Tucker]

but I think we're getting to an oversaturating point.

[Dan Patrick]

I think. I think that hurts the NBA. It's definitely hurting mlb. And I just. It's. There is such thing as too much of something. I believe that. Okay, but how much is too much? That's what has to be figured out. But I don't think we need the NFL every single day. As much as we all love the NFL. You know, I wouldn't mind, like a day or two break between trying to keep track of all the games there are. There's no Tuesday games, but once they do, once they did Thursday, and they just. They keep pushing the envelope and, you know, I. I don't see a need for, like, trying to see if every day of the week there could be at least one NFL game. So if the. If the Broncos play Wednesday night, it's the Broncos, I'll watch that. I don't know if I'm necessarily watching. Saints, Falcons game on Wednesday night, but if that's the only game that's on, that's how they get you. They have the standalone game, so you end up watching anyway. Yeah, I don't think people tune out or turn away. It's the NFL. You know, as long as the product is good, entertaining, interesting, then people are going to watch. Even if it. You don't. You don't bet on the game or you don't have fantasy attached to this. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I'm. I'm kind of along the same lines as Todd, where I do. I do think that we don't need the NFL almost every night. I think that there's probably room for everything else. And I think it's. I'll always watch my team, and I'll always watch what the important games are, but it becomes less likely on that. Yes. Say that we add a Tuesday game, a Wednesday game, whatever. Even Thursdays, I'm kind of like, unless it's a team or a game that I'm really interested in, I'm not watching. Yeah, but I think we're different because, you know, I think younger fans probably are betting on the game and they probably are doing fantasy. We're not doing either. Therefore, you're watching these games. And the number of people that I'm around, younger people who say, hey, I gotta have a reason to watch this game, and they want to put money on it. That's not us. I just think that, you know, they have you. You'll watch the game. For the most part, I'm with you on Thursday night. It's like, I don't like Thursday Night Football. I don't think the quality has been good. I don't think it's fair to the players. I hope they don't do Friday, hope they don't do Saturday. But they, they, the NFL wants to push that. They want to push it out to the world. And it's like they take us for granted. Now the expansion is, you know, global. Everybody's going to be playing a game outside the United States. Yeah. Paulie. I went back and looked at the Thanksgiving eve schedule for last year, 2025. There is no football on college or pro, obviously, but there was a triple header of NBA games. Three games between 5 and 10pm and

[Ross Tucker]

the NBA started this.

[Dan Patrick]

The first ever, ever NBA triple header was last year on Thanksgiving eve. I looked at the networks and it was all like packaged shows, not traditional network shows, like pre Thanksgiving type shows, holiday type. Fair, man, the NBA, every time they must turn around, they go, wait, what's the NFL doing to us? Yeah, Christmas Day, the night before Thanksgiving. Yeah. Seaton. Yeah. I think it's interesting that you're just talking about how young people need a reason to watch the game. And that reason, more often than not currently is gambling. That would be the sign of not having a good product though, if you need a reason to watch the game other than it's just a good game. But, oh, well, I have money riding on the game, so now I have to watch the game. That would, that would indicate to me that the NFL product is not good because unless you're gambling, then you're less likely to watch it. Well. And they don't grow up as fans of teams nowadays you grow up as fans of players because you're in fantasy. I don't know, loyalty wise, if you're watching games, how many games you watch? I just know in my family with my kids, it's, oh, I'll watch the packers game. Oh, they don't gamble, but they have fantasy. So you might be watching it that way. But for us it's different. I mean, I probably watch more football because I'm not gambling or not doing fantasy because I had a hard time when I was gambling watching those games. And I watch, I watch Red Zone now. I'll watch the big game, a full game and then I'll watch Red Zone. But I think kids nowadays, attention span. Hey, I got something on it. My fantasy team. It's just different than us. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.