The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – "The Best of The Dan Patrick Show" Release Date: April 18, 2025

Hosts:

• Lavar Arrington
• Brady Quinn
• Jonas Knox (Filling in for Dan Patrick)

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I. Introduction

In this special compilation episode titled "The Best of The Dan Patrick Show," hosts Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox take the helm to deliver engaging sports discussions, insightful analysis, and their signature humor. The episode delves into significant sports events, player movements, and strategic team decisions, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of current sports dynamics.

II. Dan Patrick's Emergency Tooth Surgery

The episode opens with a candid and humorous discussion about Dan Patrick's recent emergency dental surgery.

• Dan Patrick [03:34]: "I got my mouth surgery yesterday. It was emergency surgery."

Brady Quinn and Lavar Arrington engage in a light-hearted conversation about the mishap, highlighting the camaraderie among the hosts.

• Brady Quinn [04:16]: "This is going to come off as sound like a D bag, but I'm going to go ahead and do it."

• Lavar Arrington [07:14]: Shares a tip from his dentist about avoiding dental injuries from nuts by soaking them to make them softer.

III. Aaron Rodgers' Departure from the New York Jets

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the high-profile departure of Aaron Rodgers from the New York Jets, exploring the implications for both the player and the organization.

• Lavar Arrington [07:43]: "The Jets organization is nuts. Been nuts for quite some time."

Brady Quinn provides an in-depth analysis of the final meeting between Rodgers and the Jets' management, shedding light on potential organizational dysfunction.

• Dan Patrick [08:39]: "I walked out of there... absolutely terrible for the Jets."

• Brady Quinn [09:49]: "If that's how you're willing to deal with a guy who's gonna be a First Ballot Hall of Famer, how do you feel like they're going to deal with guys who are on the back end of the roster?"

IV. Implications for the Jets Organization

The hosts discuss broader implications of Rodgers' exit, questioning the leadership and future prospects of the Jets.

• Dan Patrick [13:04]: "I have a theory... Aaron Glenn was executing what his feelings were towards the situation with Aaron Rodgers."

• Brady Quinn [16:18]: Highlights continued meddling by owner Woody Johnson, suggesting persistent organizational issues.

V. Cleveland Browns' Draft Strategy and Quarterback Development

Shifting focus, the conversation turns to the Cleveland Browns' draft strategies, particularly concerning their quarterback room and upcoming draft picks.

• Brady Quinn [32:30]: "If he's listed as both ways, how are you going to pay him?"

• Dan Patrick [42:12]: "He's a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to go that far at receiver."

The hosts debate the versatility of Travis Hunter as a dual-position player and its potential impact on the Browns' roster flexibility.

VI. NFL Draft Analysis – Travis Hunter's Potential

A detailed discussion unfolds around Travis Hunter’s prospects in the NFL Draft, comparing his versatility to Shohei Ohtani's dual-sport prowess.

• Brady Quinn [36:46]: "He's a top five pick at cornerback... perhaps to run and play both positions."

• Dan Patrick [40:14]: "How are you going to pay that man?"

The analysis underscores the rarity and potential risks of drafting a player capable of excelling in multiple positions, emphasizing strategic considerations for the Browns.

VII. Offensive Strategies in the NFL

The episode also delves into the evolution of offensive strategies, particularly focusing on Run-Pass Options (RPOs) and their impact on quarterback development.

• Brady Quinn [62:01]: Discusses the complexity of RPOs in the NFL compared to college and high school levels.

• Dan Patrick [58:20]: "I think Cleveland played this particular situation the right way in terms of a quarterback that can handle what's going on right now."

This segment highlights the challenges quarterbacks face in adapting to sophisticated offensive schemes and the importance of organizational support in their development.

VIII. Additional Sports News and Discussions

Throughout the episode, the hosts sprinkle in various sports anecdotes, player updates, and humorous exchanges, maintaining an engaging and lively atmosphere.

• Lavar Arrington [30:29]: "He requires me to say that we're gonna be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season."

Promotions for related podcasts and segments are seamlessly integrated, ensuring listeners are informed about additional content without disrupting the flow of the main discussions.

IX. Conclusion

In wrapping up the episode, the hosts reflect on the major topics covered, reiterating the importance of strategic decision-making in sports management and player development. Their insightful commentary provides listeners with a deeper understanding of the intricate dynamics within professional sports leagues.

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Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick [08:39]: "I walked out of there... absolutely terrible for the Jets."

• Brady Quinn [09:49]: "If that's how you're willing to deal with a guy who's gonna be a First Ballot Hall of Famer, how do you feel like they're going to deal with guys who are on the back end of the roster?"

• Dan Patrick [13:04]: "I have a theory... Aaron Glenn was executing what his feelings were towards the situation with Aaron Rodgers."

• Brady Quinn [32:30]: "If he's listed as both ways, how are you going to pay him?"

• Dan Patrick [42:12]: "He's a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to go that far at receiver."

This episode of "The Dan Patrick Show" masterfully balances in-depth sports analysis with engaging and relatable conversations, making it a valuable listen for sports enthusiasts seeking comprehensive coverage of current events in the sports world.

Transcript

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Brady Quinn]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Brady Quinn]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

Has spent 24 of those years in jail.

[Brady Quinn]

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[Dan Patrick]

App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.

[Lavar Arrington]

It's a Dan Patrick show, Fox Sports Radio. Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for DP and the guys. You can normally hear us.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Lavar Arrington]

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[Brady Quinn]

Come on, var.

[Lavar Arrington]

But we are.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I'm awake. Okay, don't worry about it.

[Lavar Arrington]

We got it open today.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, we. This is improvement.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, this is.

[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

I got my mouth surgery yesterday.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it was emergency surgery.

[Lavar Arrington]

Got that tooth.

[Dan Patrick]

My tooth is the, the tooth with the iron mask. You know, like, like the movie. They put iron in there. They said dude, like what the frick. Like we didn't make it to the crown.

[Brady Quinn]

You destroyed your dentist a surfer?

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, no.

[Brady Quinn]

It was like bro.

[Dan Patrick]

He's like, bro, you, you, you, you jacked your tooth totally up while we were waiting for your permanent crown. Now we got to order you a whole an entirely different crown for your tooth. You know that isn't how he talks though. He's super cool, dude, but he had to really do some work cuz I fractured my tooth.

[Brady Quinn]

This is going to come off as sound like a D bag, but I'm going to go ahead and do it. I'm very ignorant when it comes to teeth despite the fact that my father in law is an orthodontist. But I never asked questions about it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Brady Quinn]

Mostly because I really don't care. Okay, but, but like what is. So a crown's for what? Like if you have a cavity or something?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I had to get a root canal. Yeah. So they had.

[Brady Quinn]

So you get a root canal when what again? A cavity. You have to have a tooth removed or something?

[Dan Patrick]

No, they don't remove it. They just like drill to the, the nerve and then like whatever. Yeah. To the root. Yeah. And then they like kill the nerve and then they let it heal and then they put a crown on it and it's like nothing ever happened, you know? But I had a temporary crown on because I'm getting a goal and I hear maybe that's the, the moral of the story. I'm, I was, I'm getting a matching go. A go? Yeah. But it's in the back. It's in the back.

[Brady Quinn]

Why would. Okay, hold on. This is great. We got to break this down. Why would you want to get a gold tooth then that no one's going to see in the back?

[Dan Patrick]

Cuz I can.

[Brady Quinn]

Right? But no one's ever going to see it. So what are you, like, really?

[Dan Patrick]

They smile pretty big. Q. And, and I got an. I already have one gold. Have you ever saw a gold tooth in my, in my mouth, like when I smile, you know?

[Brady Quinn]

Girl, smile enough around me.

[Lavar Arrington]

Shut up. I, I, some people might see it, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

I almost cursed on you. Almost made me curse.

[Brady Quinn]

Really look deep back in there, huh?

[Dan Patrick]

That's correct. That's correct. So if you see it, if you see it is, you know, it's because she was really in my mouth. But I'm gonna get another one on the opposite side, a matching one. And I was waiting on it. And while I was waiting on it, I guess I was, I was sitting around, I was, I, I know I'm not supposed to chew nuts, but I would, boss. I was chewing on nut clusters and then I fractured my tooth.

[Lavar Arrington]

Okay, but which one can't be a cashew? Cashews too.

[Dan Patrick]

It was a cluster. So it was almonds, it was cashews, it was sunflower seeds. And it's like put together in like honey.

[Lavar Arrington]

Or is it a kind bar?

[Dan Patrick]

Was it like, kind of like that? Yeah, but they're like, they're keto. They're keto, though, so they're pretty good. But yes, yes. And I was, I was just sitting there and I was chewing and I bit and I felt it boom. Like I fractured a two. I didn't even know you could fracture too. I just thought you break it, which a fracture is a break, I guess. But I mean, I don't know. I never heard that terminology used. And it scared me. You know, I was sitting there and they were like, man, they were going through the language of it and taking the, the X rays and then they were like, yeah, such and such of the bicuspis. And this is harder. That one is fractured. I was like, fractured. Oh my gosh. Ridiculous.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah, My dentist told me, said, listen, nuts will get you every time. He said relax. He said that a trick is you can take almonds and you soak them in water to make them soft. If you want to. If you still want to get your. Your almond fix.

[Brady Quinn]

This is the part of conversation we have to jump in and say, well, let's get the sports.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, let's do it. Come on, man.

[Brady Quinn]

We were good until we started getting the nuts conversation.

[Dan Patrick]

Too much nuts is not good for you.

[Lavar Arrington]

All right, well, you know, some would say that the jets organization is nuts. Some would say been nuts for quite some time.

[Dan Patrick]

The reason sometimes I feel like a nut.

[Brady Quinn]

And.

[Lavar Arrington]

And apparently it was a nutty situation and departure for Aaron Rogers, who spoke yesterday on the Pat McAfee show starring A.J. hawk. And Rogers decided to air out the New York jets and describe what the final meeting was with Aaron Glenn, with Darren Mugie, this entire situation debacle, if you will, here Rogers breaking it all down.

[Dan Patrick]

I figured that when I flew across country on my own dime that there.

[Brady Quinn]

Was going to be a conversation.

[Dan Patrick]

And 20 seconds in he goes, I mean, literally I'm talking to the GM about something and he leans to the.

[Brady Quinn]

Edge of his sheet and goes, so.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you want to play football? I was like, yeah, I'm interested.

[Brady Quinn]

And he said, we're going a different direction at quarterback.

[Dan Patrick]

And I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I didn't think that was a possibility. Listen, of course they want to move on. That's totally fine. But shocked because I just flew across country. You could have told me this on the phone. So I said, huh? And he goes, we just want to know how you want it released, the messaging. And I said, why? And then he said, I don't want to be up in front of the room saying something and have guys looking back at you.

[Brady Quinn]

Interesting. And I said, what does that even mean?

[Dan Patrick]

Are you assuming that I would be in the back of the room during a team meeting or undermining what you're saying? I said, you don't know me. And he said, you don't know me. And then I said, exactly. Which is why I flew across the country to have a face to face meeting with you to talk about my experience with the Jets. What I thought was going to be a couple hour meeting turned into like a 15 minute meeting and I walked out of there.

[Lavar Arrington]

So there's your. Your final moments with the New York jets.

[Dan Patrick]

And was that a beef? You don't know me, homie. Look, man, you don't know me, hom.

[Brady Quinn]

This has to look terrible for the jets, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, gosh, yeah, absolutely.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, because here's the reality of it. If, if that's how you're willing to deal with a guy who's gonna be a First Battle hall of Famer, how do you feel like they're going to deal with guys who are on the back end of the roster? I mean, as a player. And I'm not saying that like all players like Aaron Rodgers or all players even relate to Aaron Rodgers. He seems to have a good rapport with his teammates. But you sit there and go, this is how this, this is how the team's handling this guy. Like he. Now, mind you, he probably flew private like his on his own dime. It's not like that. It's not like the team's flying him there on his jet to get there, which is a pretty penny if you're coming from California to New York and back, like I would estimate. I don't know, somebody who's in the industry would probably correct me, tell me I'm wrong. Minimum, $80,000, $100,000 just for that trip there and back, minimum. That's probably what he spent doing it. And to not at least want to hear from a guy who's won a Super bowl, won what, four MVPs. Seems to have a different perspective on the league, but could give some insight to Aaron Glenn, who's stepping into his first opportunity as a head coach and doesn't know this organization. Regardless of what anyone wants to say, doesn't know it as well as Aaron Rodgers. He's been there the last two years. He's got a much better feel for the pulse of Woody Johnson, how things have operated the past couple of years than Aaron Glenn does. And he didn't want to take the time just to pick his brain and talk to him, even if he didn't want to see him as his quarterback. Right. It kind of goes back to like the Bill Belichick not getting more interviews. Like, teams didn't even want to take the opportunity when you had a legitimate chance to take the opportunity to pick one of the greatest football minds mind in an interview. Even if you don't want to hire him, just bring him into. At least interview him and see what you can get from him, right. What knowledge he'll be willing to give up and maybe pour into your organization, your leaders, whoever. And so for Aaron Glenn, you didn't even want to do that. You're just going to jump right to the point. And I guess I understand to a degree he doesn't want to Waste his time. But then to Aaron Rodgers point, just give him a phone call. Like, if it's over like that, just give him a phone call. This makes it look like the jets and Lavara said it all along our dysfunction, but also now it looks even more like a clown show. And it, it feels like you've got a head coach who, yeah, maybe he has an idea of what he's trying to build, but it almost makes it look even worse to how this year is going to go with Justin Fields as their quarterback. If things don't go well, it's a disaster because you had a guy you could have brought back who's a first ballot hall of Famer. And so if he goes somewhere else and plays well and that team's in the hunt, or if the. And even then, like, forget that, that might be even separate from if the jets just fall apart, become a dumpster fire. He could be a one and done. Like, these are some of the things that start to come out in the media where it puts more and more pressure and makes everyone question is this guy, maybe there's a reason why it took him so long to become a head coach. He's been a great D coordinator, he's had a great reputation. But then you watch how he handles this instance, this situation. I don't know, man, dysfunction, clown show, whatever you want to call it, that's the right back where the jets are.

[Dan Patrick]

Again, I have a theory and, and the theory is he is acting off of, off of the feelings of ownership. And I've seen this happen before. I've been, I've been a party to Joe Gibbs falling victim to doing the same exact thing. I was the leader of a team. I was the face of, of a, of a team, of a franchise, of the town. And due to a vendetta that was, apparently, I wasn't really even aware of it, but due to a vendetta of the owner and how he turned his feelings on, how he felt about me, he tasked someone else because he's a coward. He tasked someone else to be his henchmen and Joe Gibbs went for it. He took the cheese and his coward ass did the same thing, like hid behind, you know, things he shouldn't have had behind. And the conversations that he and I were having, which was interesting because if media was where it was at right now, I'd have probably did the same thing that Aaron Rodgers did and had the conversation about it. And we'd probably be having the same conversation about how you have a dysfunctional organization. I tend to believe that Aaron Glenn and handling Aaron Rodgers was totally doing it with the influence of what he had already had got from and communicated with Woody Johnson in terms of how they made him feel in terms of what they think took place with Aaron Rodgers in New York. And Aaron Glenn was, was executing what his feelings were towards the situation with Aaron Rodgers and did that under the influences and the pretenses of what was fed to him once he came to the New York jets as their head coach. So in a way, while we'll say, okay, maybe as a head coach, you don't allow for an owner or, or corporate to dictate how you handle a situation, keep your emotions out of it. You are the head coach of this team. You have to manage the relationships with these players differently. But that could be also tongue in cheek because we all know this is the man that hires you. This could be the man that fires you, whether it's a year, whether it's two years, whatever it may be. And he's already showing signs of trying to pacify dysfunction. That's my theory. I don't think that Aaron Glenn would have wanted to take the stance he took with Aaron Rodgers. In fact, knowing Aaron Glenn, I would assume he would want the best players on his team. I don't think he had a choice. I don't think he had a choice in the matter of keeping Aaron Rodgers on that roster based upon the feelings that were going towards Aaron Rodgers. And Aaron Glenn was tasked to make that one of the first things that he handled once taking the job.

[Lavar Arrington]

So then Woody Johnson is still meddling in decisions. Got it.

[Dan Patrick]

I think the influence, I think the only way you take. Cuz let's be clear as former players, whether you're a coach now, whether we just, you know, whatever you're doing in your life, when we see one another, we greet each other a certain type of way. You're not going to like come at, you're not going to come at a guy.

[Brady Quinn]

Hold on.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, go.

[Brady Quinn]

And what type of way is that? Dap up?

[Dan Patrick]

It's. It's different than anybody else.

[Brady Quinn]

Right? That's right. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I come in, I kind of come y. What's up, man?

[Dan Patrick]

We greet each other very differently than everybody else because everybody else to us aren't us. That. I mean, that's if, if that. If I'm letting the fan base and people in on a secret, I'm sorry to do that. It's not that we think any less of you. It's Just that we don't think of you the same way we think of one another. That's all.

[Brady Quinn]

It's just.

[Lavar Arrington]

Me, too.

[Brady Quinn]

Plus. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

[Dan Patrick]

Sorry.

[Brady Quinn]

If you could give me the difference between you and Jonas kind of seeing each other.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Somewhere on the street or whatever, then. And you and I seen one another.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. If I saw a Jonas, I'd be like, what's up, buddy? What's going on, bro? Yeah, if I saw you, I'd be like, cute.

[Brady Quinn]

What up, playboy?

[Dan Patrick]

What up, doe?

[Brady Quinn]

What's up?

[Lavar Arrington]

Damn.

[Dan Patrick]

How your body feeling, kids? Is good? Everything good? Yeah. You cool? All right, man.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah, I was good. I was gonna, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

And you always say, it's good to see you, like, three, four times when you see somebody that played.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, that's right.

[Dan Patrick]

You'd be like, man, it's good to see you, bro. Man, so good to see you.

[Lavar Arrington]

See, I was gonna point out, like, a racial component, but you really buckled my knees when you went to Brady on that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. There's no real quick.

[Brady Quinn]

Real quick. Which is great, Jonas.

[Dan Patrick]

That it exceeds race.

[Brady Quinn]

Do you see me on the street? How do we greet each other?

[Dan Patrick]

Say again?

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, how would that see me on the street?

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, hey, hey, Brady Little Top Gun. Hey, up top, Jonas.

[Lavar Arrington]

What's up, hoss?

[Dan Patrick]

That's football. That's football talk, though. You can't use haas.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah, but that's.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, that's like, maybe high school.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah, we're real trying hard to be a meathead.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you're. Yeah, that is. Sometimes cats like you try to overcompensate, but it's because you want to be greeted that way.

[Lavar Arrington]

But it's the same thing. If I see Lavar. If I see Lavar, I'd be like, sub Dog.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, no, God, don't do that. Oh, no, don't do that.

[Dan Patrick]

Do it. Keep going, Keep going.

[Brady Quinn]

You know what's weird? Every time I see Jonas and every time we walk together from, like, the set during Radio Road, during Super Bowl, I always am like, man, if I had an oil can, I would try to, like, just inject some oil into Jonas's joints just to make him look a little smoother, man. It's just.

[Lavar Arrington]

Please.

[Brady Quinn]

It's very rigid. It's a very rigid stiff.

[Dan Patrick]

That's them vampire joints.

[Lavar Arrington]

That's not true.

[Brady Quinn]

There is zero. There's like zero skip, zero limp, zero anything.

[Dan Patrick]

Because you get to where we go. He's partially floating.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, no sway.

[Lavar Arrington]

I'm floating. All I've got In my body is blood and it ain't mine. You don't know the vampire life. You don't know what we go through. You know, here's, here's what's so funny about the Rogers discussion. So I'm seeing yesterday, people are, you know, laying in like, oh God, of course it's everybody else's fault and he's this and that and he's pointing fingers and it's like, I just want to say we're not talking about like a high functioning, well respected history of great decisions and great moves and great mo. We're talking about the Jets. Yes, it's plausible that the meeting happened exactly how it happened. It's not like Rogers has been known to just lie. Ok? People can put, oh, well, you know, the, the, the COVID stuff and all. No, you just, he found a loophole in his messaging and that's why people are still bitter about it. But it's not like we're talking about, oh, well, this is just, this is an organization that is pristine and all they know is success, him saying it about them. So you're the one guy who's got a problem with the way that they handle things there. No, we've seen this for decades. It's the same story for decades. Insert quarterback. It's a disaster. Drafted, signed, head coach. What? So like when I, when I hear the pushback on things, he's, look, is he a little bit arrogant? Sure. Is he a little bit aloof at times? Does he want to control the messaging? Does he like the attention but claim that he does? Probably. But it still doesn't admonish the jets from being palpable in this whole situation. Whatever. I'm trying to say, palpable in this whole situation, that they're a disaster and they've been a disaster for years. And we've brought this point up before on our show when the first couple of moves and couple of signs are, hey, we don't want any part of this. Were Bill Belichick and Bill Parcell saying, no, we're good here. And that was before, before we had any sort of intel or information on what Woody Johnson's era with the jets was going to be. That should have been the indicator. Okay, maybe there's something wrong here. So the, the pushback on Rogers I don't get because it's the jets. They've done this for decades and he.

[Dan Patrick]

Didn'T even play that bad down, down the stretch. It's, it's, it's.

[Lavar Arrington]

To me, he's better Than Justin Fields last year.

[Dan Patrick]

He's better than Justin Fields.

[Brady Quinn]

Can I point out.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, this one instance. Don't do that.

[Brady Quinn]

Point out, though, where I think a lot of people have dug their feet in and it's over. As far as how they feel, it's the whole vaccination thing.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yes.

[Brady Quinn]

That was such a polarizing issue that there's a lot of people who, maybe they're football fans, maybe they're not, but whatever. We talk about politics, religion, things like that, and. And obviously the whole vaccination deal, it was politicized. That's why it became so polarizing. But the way he messaged the immunized comment and how people took that and how this. People drew a line in the sand back then, and they've never been willing to concede on any of that. I mean, this is like, outside of a sports conversation. Like, the people who believed in the people who didn't, they drew a line and they're not ever willing to cross that. Like, no one's even, like, even right now, regardless of whatever report comes out, whatever side you were on, they're sticking to that. They're like, there's no way you're going to convince them otherwise. And unfortunately, like, he put himself, rightfully so, he put himself in the middle of that with how he handled that. And I think that actually might be the most polarizing thing that has still followed him to this day, outside of even how he's handled things with being so open and honest about, you know, things in Green Bay and how the drafting of Jordan Love went, or even his time with. With Brett Favre and everything else up there, and now with the New York jets and everything else in his personal life that's become public, which with the documentary. So, to me, as much as he is very unique as an athlete or as a quarterback in the NFL, there's also an element of, like, that singular thing to me, created the biggest divide for the people who are either for Aaron Rodgers or like Aaron Rodgers or against them. And it's kind of crazy when you think about it. And people can say that's not true, but you're lying. Like, I see it to this day, there's people who still have, like, ruined friendships, aren't as close with their family. There's all sorts of issues from that singular moment in time.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

With the way people kind of drew a line in the sand and they're not ever willing to cross it, and they're not ever willing to go back on whatever happened back then.

[Dan Patrick]

He never Breaks character either, though. That's. I think that that really irritates a lot of people. And if I were a betting man, I would say the way Aaron Rodger conducts himself is an irritant to people. Like a Woody Johnson. He does not break character. Oh, yeah. And he answers questions especially almost as if it's like a riddle. You know what I mean? Like, he doesn't break character. He stays in that same. Wow, you know, and, and, and, and all I want to say was, yep, I can't. You could have did this by the phone. Well, you don't know me. Well, you're right. And, and that's why I can't. Like the witty comments, the, the comebacks. It's not. It doesn't help. It doesn't help. Like, show me some emotion. Like, I'll beat your ass. Like, what? Oh, whoa. Aaron Rodgers said what? Yeah, I mean, like, it is.

[Lavar Arrington]

It is funny how we.

[Dan Patrick]

He don't break character.

[Lavar Arrington]

It is funny how we pick and choose, you know, who we're still going to punish for things that were done and said five years ago during COVID.

[Dan Patrick]

Kind of a long time ago, you know. Well, Woody Johnson ain't thinking about the immunization. He's thinking about how Aaron Rodgers tried to ruin him. He tried to ruin me.

[Lavar Arrington]

No, he's got.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Aaron, you better get him.

[Lavar Arrington]

Someone say he's got a vested interest.

[Dan Patrick]

Somebody get him. Yeah, I can't do it myself.

[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Brady Quinn]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do we have an update on the fan that was hit by a golf ball by Billy Horschel yesterday at that tournament, whatever the tournament was, because that looked grotesque. Did you see that Brady? The guy shin who took a golf ball while in the gallery and horse?

[Brady Quinn]

Not I. I'm always a big fan, though. I'm always a big fan of those who are sticking it out, able to kind of tough it out through it and basically providing A backboard for professional golfers just in case they sprayed a little bit outside of the fairway. There's always a nice fan in there to help bounce it right back in or at least stop it right there in the rough.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah, he. So this guy got a, a golf ball straight in the shin and Horschel went over. I think he outlined it and then autographed his leg afterwards. And it is revolting. So hopefully, hopefully that that gentleman is okay and can continue on enjoying the tournament, you know, at the gallery there. Whatever, whatever tournament that was not name the Masters. Now, that being said, I want to let you know we are brought to you by Mako. Most cars on the road could use a little tlc. At Mako, we bring your car back to life with affordable paint jobs and light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. The Cleveland Browns are holding the number two pick in the draft. The betting odds have indicated that Travis Hunter will be the pick at number two. Depending on if the Browns are picking there or not, who knows? But that is the expectation that as far as the gambling odds go, that it could be the Browns taking Travis Hunter. And so the GM of the Cleveland Browns, Andrew Barry, spoke about Travis Hunter's skill set and also compared him to one of the all time great talents that we are currently watching, that number.

[Dan Patrick]

Two pick, because that's kind of how.

[Brady Quinn]

He'S viewed is the guy that can do both versus just is one side or the other. No, I don't, I don't see it that way.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's.

[Lavar Arrington]

And I'm going to use a crossboard now.

[Dan Patrick]

It's a little bit like Ohtani, right.

[Lavar Arrington]

Where you know, when he's playing one side, he's, he's an outstanding player.

[Dan Patrick]

If he's, if he's a pitcher, he's.

[Brady Quinn]

A hitter, he's an outstanding player. You obviously get a unicorn if you use them both ways.

[Lavar Arrington]

All right, so he's getting the Ohtani comp. He hasn't played in the.

[Dan Patrick]

That's not a good. That's not a good computer.

[Lavar Arrington]

Why not?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, because. What is Otani. What is Ohtani play when he's not being a pitcher?

[Lavar Arrington]

Well done.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, that was more so his.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, he doesn't need an interpreter, right, does he? Well, allegedly.

[Lavar Arrington]

Oh, it's like that, that's that sneaky shot. They're like, why do you go down? How'd he. Oh, it was right there. Brady with an undercut. You know, just a little something a little under underneath.

[Dan Patrick]

I Don't know. All I'll say is I, he, His normal position is not pitcher. Correct. Doesn't he pick like shortstop or something?

[Lavar Arrington]

No. Ohtani.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Shohei.

[Lavar Arrington]

No, he's a dh. Dh? Pitcher.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, he's not a pitcher all the time.

[Lavar Arrington]

Well, he's not a pitcher right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Don't be miss like leading. He's not a pitcher all the time.

[Lavar Arrington]

Here's why. You know, if you want to say it's not a fair comp. First of all, because Travis Hunter hasn't done anything in the league yet.

[Dan Patrick]

But also, don't, don't do that. Don't.

[Lavar Arrington]

Speaker 4 no, I'm just saying he hasn't. We have no idea if it's going to work out.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, that's true.

[Lavar Arrington]

And if it's the Browns, who knows?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, that's even more true.

[Lavar Arrington]

But Ohtani, he's working to come back. He is hoping to pitch at some point this year. And he's a great hitter.

[Dan Patrick]

And so the baseball players play both sides. They NBA or you know, basketball, they play both sides. Right. Like you play offense and you play defense.

[Lavar Arrington]

We've never seen anybody be able to pitch and hit the way Otani has.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but they go both ways. They, they do both.

[Lavar Arrington]

Well, no, I'm not, See, that's, you.

[Dan Patrick]

Know what I mean?

[Lavar Arrington]

Like football. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

It's not required for you to do both in, in football. So that's why I say it's a poor comp.

[Brady Quinn]

But I, I mean, I get what you're saying. You're basically saying like, for example, if we're counting pitching as defense, right. In baseball, which it would be correct. It'd be like him playing pitcher and catcher, like, and then Travis Hunter playing cornerback and dn. Right. Like, that's in essence what you're saying.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm saying you play quarterback.

[Brady Quinn]

DN and also wide receiver.

[Dan Patrick]

Quarterback. Dn Wide. Dang. I mean that, I mean that's the equivalent of Shohei. Yeah, but I, I, I'm saying I, I just think that with, with Travis Hunter, you're getting a unicorn. If he can play at a high level and play. Here, here, here's the thing, right? If you play him at cornerback and he can become an All Pro, that is phenomenal in itself, period. If he plays receiver and can become an all Pro, that is phenomenal, period. You know, some of the greatest players who have ever played this game only have like, like a handful or less than a handful of first team all pro bits. Right. So if you're good enough to Be an all pro player and on your, on that list at your position, that's phenomenal. Now if you have that type of talent, are we, are we adjusting our, our scope? Are we saying, okay, he should be an all pro corner but just be a serviceable receiver or should he be an all pro receiver and be a serviceable cornerback? Like what are we looking? How are we. Because again the conversation that we had the other day when we were debating and I know you said his, you know his stats, we looked up his stat lines or you looked up his stat lines. Q and made the point because I think TMAC is, is, is a guy that is special at the receiver's position. But the point is, is that if you believe that he can be an elite play making receiver where he goes number two overall in the draft, are you expecting him to do that at both positions or is it just one? Because I think that plays a major part in all of this. Is it, is it both ways or is it just one and serviceable to the other?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, here's, here's what I'd say is right, if we look at the draft and people always say, oh, you get a 50 chance of getting a hit on a guy in the first round, right? People will say that, well, technically, if he plays two positions, gotta get 50 chance at either one. And so I think the position versatility or flexibility is where the value comes in is if you think he can be like he was in college, a top wide receiver and, or a top cornerback, then it increases your odds of hitting on that pick, of getting a guy that is maybe a gold jacket guy at one of those two positions. Now if it ends up being both, great. But from just a pure odds betting standpoint, if you're a betting man and you're saying I can increase my odds of this player being an impactful player, starter, Pro Bowler, all Pro hall of Famer at one of two positions, it takes some pressure off of you, right? I mean you could play him at wide receiver if things aren't going as well, put him at cornerback. Like I, I think I have a hard time believing that one of those two isn't going to stick for him, at least based on what I've seen on tape. Again, I keep going back to, I think his natural fit for me. And, and this is just more of watching him play both and, and look, don't get me wrong, he's got natural instincts as far as a ball catcher, great hand eye coordination, suddenness and his route run, but he's still Very raw with his route running. And that's something that takes time to develop, whether you're Travis Hunter or any other wide receiver. But as a cornerback, he just has a feel for the game and how he sees the game and how he sees the quarterback and how that, you know, and different route combinations. I just, I feel like that position comes to him more naturally. And, and so all I'm saying is if you could take someone who improves your chances of it being a hit as a general manager that goes on your resume to showcase to the owner and everyone else that, hey, this is, you know, this was a hit. This was another, another hit, another one that worked out for me as a general manager, you're going to take that guy. So I don't know which he'll end up playing on it. Maybe the Browns will do both. Like, maybe that'll be part of the intrigue for 2025. If this is a team that's still at the bottom of the AFC north because the quarterback situation, at least you're selling one of the most dynamic players we've ever seen potentially in his rookie season, trying to play both ways. There's something to be said for that.

[Dan Patrick]

If he's listed as both ways, how are you going to pay him?

[Brady Quinn]

How are you going to have to worry about that for at least three more years?

[Dan Patrick]

But, but how do you. Do you pay him for both positions? Because that's a roster. If he's, if he's a full time receiver and he's a full time corner.

[Brady Quinn]

Your cba, the draft, the rookie draft salary pool slotted. So it doesn't really have anything to do with, you know, now, now where, where he'll get a bonus is his play snap percentage. So remember, because even what he's paid as a rookie, he'll get a huge bonus at the end of the year if he's playing both ways because of the amount of snaps he's playing on both sides of the ball. So that's where he'll be able to cash in on that. And that's where the, you know, NFLP has done a good job in trying to reward guys who aren't being paid as much and especially as rookies, but they're playing a lot. So it's at least covered a portion of that gap. And I understand what you're saying, but that's three years away. That's, that's the first opportunity that man.

[Dan Patrick]

Became an all pro on both sides of the ball as a receiver and as a corner, which we've never Seen that happen ever before. How are you going to pay that man?

[Lavar Arrington]

Let me ask you, because I think it's along the lines of what you were thinking, Lavar, but, but I'll kind of throw it at you guys. If he was just a wide receiver, is he in consideration for the number two pick?

[Dan Patrick]

No. No.

[Lavar Arrington]

If he was just.

[Dan Patrick]

There's no receiver being considered.

[Lavar Arrington]

Right. So if he was just a corner, would be. Would he be in consideration for the number two pick?

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Brady Quinn]

That's a good way of putting is. I would say yes. No, I would say yes in that regard.

[Dan Patrick]

I say he's not a top five pick at corner. I think he's more like Will Howard. Is it Will Howard? Who? The corner out of Michigan, Will Johnson.

[Brady Quinn]

Will Johnson.

[Dan Patrick]

I say he's more like that. He's more in that, that category. Then again, now, I take that back. I take, I take that back. I take that back because I'm thinking about Champ Bailey or he's on the level of, I mean, actually he, yeah, he's on the level of a Charles Woodson more so than even a Champ Bailey. I mean, he's in that category of players. So. Yes. Yes, he would be.

[Brady Quinn]

So I, I put it this way, I refresh. I think, I think he's the best cornerback and I do think in a class that, by the way, it's not a great wide receiver class. So between tmac, Luther Burden, you know, Matthew Golden's got a lot of buzz in Texas because he's so fast. You know, I don't know that you, you go and watch the tape and say, like, can he come in and be immediate number one? And that's what you're usually drafting him to be. So it's kind of interesting. But I, I think he's one of the best, if not the best in the wide receiver class, too. So it all depends on how you view them. But I think as a cornerback, without a doubt as a wide receiver, it might be partially due to the wide receiver, though, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he's a top, He's a top five pick. He's a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to go, I'm not going to go that far at receiver, cornerback. He's top five pick. Yeah.

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah. It's. Well, looks like he'll be in Cleveland, so it would behoove them to try and maximize his abilities, like if you've got that sort of talent.

[Dan Patrick]

Would it?

[Lavar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Lavar Arrington]

Otherwise, I mean, you know, you might lose him sooner.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Lavar Arrington]

Be sure to catch the live edition.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Brady Quinn]

I could see him going as early as two. I know that's always been about quarterbacks in recent years, but I would not.

[Dan Patrick]

Be shocked if he goes with the.

[Brady Quinn]

With the number two pick. I can't imagine him slipping much more than that. What uniform can you picture him wearing in the coming months?

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? I like him going to New York.

[Brady Quinn]

You do?

[Dan Patrick]

I do.

[Brady Quinn]

Because of the old days of Lawrence Taylor and Banks and all those great defensive players.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, absolutely. Even going Harry Carson, even going back to Justin Tuck, Michael Strahan. There you go. OC Yo Minora. You have your franchise defensive lineman for the next 10 years, hopefully. And so I think Abdul Carter is the right move, but who knows? Another guy I'm thinking about is Kenneth Grant out of Michigan. I love him on the interior look. He could be in that Brandon Graham, Chris Jones, Aaron Donald, Jalen Carter. Look at the lineage of great D linemen that have made big impacts on championship teams.

[Brady Quinn]

He's ranked right there among the top guys on the on the list there. You got Derek Harmon at Oregon. You got Walter Nolan, ole Ms. And T.J. sanders, S.C. but Kenneth Grant is right there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I like him. I like Darius Alexander. I saw some highlights of him. He's out. Yes, he's out. Of a small school. But those guys, almost like a Khalil Mack guys that come out of nowhere, quote, unquote, smaller schools.

[Brady Quinn]

Is there a hesitation?

[Dan Patrick]

You think with some of the GMs.

[Brady Quinn]

And front office staff, they're like, yeah, but he played at Toledo. You know, anybody can be great at a smaller school. What happens, you know, if you're, when you're getting to the pros or if he would have played in a bigger conference, maybe he wouldn't have looked as good.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm with you completely. Hopefully these guys come out and they.

[Brady Quinn]

Tear it up and prove everybody wrong.

[Dan Patrick]

Absolutely. Especially a guy like him who's going to have a chip on his shoulder regardless of where he's drafted.

[Brady Quinn]

Let's root for Darius Alexander.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Brady Quinn]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Lavar Arrington]

Included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to.

[Dan Patrick]

One of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport.

[Brady Quinn]

I just felt like the biggest thing was to earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help.

[Lavar Arrington]

Them take the next step, not tear anything down.

[Dan Patrick]

Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to love for what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that, like Mount Rushmore for guys that have changed it, come revisit this magical warriors ride. This is Dub Dynasty.

[Brady Quinn]

The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lavar Arrington]

So we mentioned what the Cleveland Browns might do, a quarterback, or, excuse me, at the number two pick. And the feeling is they're gonna go with Travis Hunter. That's at least what what the speculation is. And the question then becomes, well, what's the long term plan at quarterback? Well, listen, Andrew Barry, the GM there, says it's a little too early to tell whether or not Deshaun Watson can play in 2025. I'd like to offer this up. Some would argue it's debatable whether or not he's played yet for the organization based on what has happened, suspensions, performance, et cetera, et cetera. But nonetheless, now they've got a quarterback room that's got Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. Joe Flacco was brought back. He won comeback player of the Year a couple of years ago. And so the discussion was being had with the fan in Cleveland. He was talking with Ken Carmen and Anthony Lima about the development of quarterbacks in the NFL and had this to say.

[Dan Patrick]

I do think it's important for young.

[Brady Quinn]

Quarterbacks to be able to learn. You don't want to put a young.

[Dan Patrick]

Quarterback in a football game before he's actually ready.

[Brady Quinn]

You know, there's just so many things in the cycle in this league these.

[Dan Patrick]

Days is just so quick.

[Brady Quinn]

You want these guys to be ready.

[Dan Patrick]

And I do think there's huge advantages.

[Brady Quinn]

To being able to sit back and.

[Dan Patrick]

Make sure you get that and gain that confidence and really, really learn the game and get the team surrounded in a good way so that you can go out there and have success. And I think that stuff happens naturally through like, competition in different rooms and you know, like, like the more competition you have and the more people you have competing, the more conversations come up and the more people learn.

[Brady Quinn]

I think that's true in, not just.

[Dan Patrick]

In sports, but in every environment. You want good people in a room together that can push each other and.

[Brady Quinn]

Then you'll get the most out of everybody.

[Lavar Arrington]

So that was Joe Flacco talking with the fan in Cleveland about the development of quarterbacks there.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, well, yeah, he's, you know, 40 years old now or, you know, that's. That's what it sounds like. I mean, when you played for as long as he has 17 years, it's going to come off that way. And I think, look, going back to his experience, he was a guy who started, you know, as a rookie and, you know, they had a lot of team success. He was good as a rookie. He continually got better and better and better. But, you know, when you go back and look at the course of his career, he had continually developed into the position after his first couple years to really be a guy that they could rely on in particular in the clutch. And I think what he probably learned from his looking back at his rookie year and even just playing for as long as he played is, you know, and this kind of happens, I think, to all of us as fathers. Like you look at your child or you look at younger generations and you're like, oh, I remember going through that. Like, this is probably what they don't know, or this is what they need to know in order to be able to do this the right way or be successful. And, and now again, playing as long as he has, he's seeing all that in real time as he's, you know, had to kind of come in and pinch hit, if you will, for a lot of, you know, younger guys. His stint in CLEVELAND Back in 20, 23, a couple of years ago, and even last year for Anthony Richardson. And I think he's very aware of how different things are now, you know, for quarterbacks coming into the league where they draft them, they play them and they rinse them out, right, they don't get any time to really sit, watch and learn unless you're a part of an organization that tries to do it right, or if you've got a Hall of Fame guy sitting there in front of them, or at least a Pro bowl caliber guy like an Alex Smith or in the case of Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love. So that that's really few and far between. Right. Most teams are hoping they could find a guy that's gonna be a Pro bowl caliber quarterback, let alone a Hall of Famer. And so I think his, you know, his words are wise in the sense of probably everything he's experienced as a starter, as a backup, as a guy who, look, he's made a ton of money at this point in time, his career, he's won a Super Bowl, He's. He's continually been able to prove that he can still do it. It and so he doesn't need to. I think there's a desire of. Want to and at the same time being able to be a guy who's. He's got five kids, you know, he's. He's a family man. So he probably sees it from a lot different perspective than a lot of guys who play the position, especially a lot of the young guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang, five kids, he can sling that pill, huh? He's a quarterback on and on.

[Lavar Arrington]

I think, I think he also said he was. It was kind of nice to get away from his kids for a little bit. He was kind of half joking, but I think he just wanted a break.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's. I think it's a wise move to bring in Flaco for one reason and one reason alone. We could work from there. In my estimation, it's because you have someone that can stabilize an unstable environment as, as the quarterback. I think the deshaun Watson conversation has created so much, so much confusion, so much, you know, kind of, you know, is it conflict of how you want to feel about the situation? Is it, you know, what's next for the situation? There's so much surrounding desean Watson that has been a. An agent of deterioration for the Cleveland Browns to bring a. A rookie into that equation, whether they're prepared for it mentally, emotionally, physically, to be able to handle it or not. It's really an unfair task and, and wait to, to put on the shoulders of a newly acquired, a newly hired talent for that position for your team. So, and knowing that, that that element is still there, like whoever goes in has to accept the fact that desean Watson still has to be a part of the conversation in terms of whose team is this at that position. That would be. The first thing that I would say would be the wisest move and bringing in a quarterback would be to bring in a guy like Joe Flacco, who. Things like that are not going to bother him. He's already clearly shown you that it's not going to bother him. He's on borrowed time anyway. He's at the end of his career, and anything that he gets from this moment on is he's playing with house money. So he's going to go in there, he's familiar with the front office, he's familiar with guys that are in the locker room, and he's going to be a positive force to, to the players that are in there and other people that are around, including the fan base. He's. He's a positive asset to add to your team and to add to your room. And hey, if Pickett proves out then and. And is able to learn some things from Flacco during this time and you get, get a bonus and, and pick it developing. If you take a draft pick somewhere, they got a few. They. They got the 33rd pick in. That's. That's a pretty, pretty, pretty good position to be in, to either be able to move up maybe a little bit in the second round or sit there and somebody's going to possibly fall to you at that 33rd pick. I think that for what it's worth, and you may not hear me say this often, I think Cleveland played this particular situation the right way in terms of a. A quarterback that can handle what's going on right now in Cleveland.

[Lavar Arrington]

When he talks about, like, developing young quarterbacks and, you know, how to. How teams go about or how they should go about, still blows my mind that. And I know it's not an exact science and every player is different and all that, but it still blows my mind that you draft a guy, is almost. He's an investment. And I don't know a whole hell of a lot about investing, but I do know that it does take some time. And you don't want to, like, you know, manipulate your investment too soon because you got to let it grow a little bit. You got to let it. And Joe Flacco's point was like, man, I think we got to be a little bit more patient. But nowadays they're just not. They want to know now, all right, can you play now? Well, who the hell knows? Like, it could be situation, it could be time, it could be another scenario altogether. Alex Smith took years before he developed. He went through, like, seven coaches or offensive coordinators, whatever it was, and finally he found something. Had they pulled the rug out early on, he would have never developed into a guy that, you know, brought Kansas City to where they were before Patrick Mahomes took. Took over and got him over the hump. You look at Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, man, if you would have talked to the Browns back then, the book was written on Baker Mayfield. And yet for some reason, it just feels like, no, we got to know now. We need an answer now. It's an investment. But no, no, no, we got to have some answers. We got to have some returns.

[Dan Patrick]

You did with DeSean Watson. It should just, like, I feel like Baker Mayfield might have done something. He flirted with the wrong person or something, man.

[Lavar Arrington]

And I. Look, I think. I think Rogers person.

[Dan Patrick]

Somebody's. He. He. He upsets somebody.

[Lavar Arrington]

I think Rogers, you know, has kind of made this point before to where, like, man, there's. There's got to be some trust. Like, some, hey, look, we are trusting. You're making the decision, and we're trusting this pick at this time, and let's let it grow. Instead, it's like, no, he can't play. He's got to go like. And there's so many examples of that. And I don't get why in a. In a business like the NFL where you are dependent on everybody around you to be successful, why it all comes down to now that guy can't play well. No, like, you've got to produce the environment for him to play, and that seems to be lost in so many situations.

[Brady Quinn]

That's why I keep going back to. To how different the game is at the NFL level from the college level. And I hope people understand that RPOs, they're not as capable or impactful at the NFL level, because the rule that you could only have in an eligible lineman, for example, downfield, only a yard in college and high school, it's three. And honestly, it's more like three and a half because it's so hard for officials to be able to see it at that point in the play. I mean, when you. When you picture or think about an offensive lineman moving three yards downfield, that's a couple seconds into the play, right? He's moving through a gigantic human being across from. Even if he's uncovered moving up to the next level, he's still trying to get a sense for where that linebacker is going to be. Because don't get it twisted. It is a run play. All right? There's different types of pass protections. There's pass pro, there's run action pro, where it's a pass play. The linemen know not to go downfield, but they are doing their best to block it like it's a run run. And so their responsibilities in regards to pressure are off. They don't adjust anything. They're doing, they are relying on the fake in a run action, pass protection to be able to take care of whatever is going on. And pre snap, if the quarterback sees something that he's like, this is a disaster, you get out of it, right? You audible out of it. But it's entirely different with an rpo. It is a run play. That quarterback has the opportunity to hand that football off high school, college level, even at the NFL level, the way it's taught. And then you're triggering or you're reading off one player on defense. And so the game has become so simplified at the high school to college level to where you have one of two choices. You're either keeping it and you're going to throw. Depending on what that defender does, if he steps up to stop the run, or if he stays back in coverage, you're going to hand the football off. And honestly, RPOs have replaced what used to be quick game, the three step game, where even in three step drop, it sounds somewhat simple, right? 1, 2, 3, you're throwing the football, you're not really able to hitch up in the pocket because you're not getting any depth. You still had to read coverage. Even in a three step game, you had a one high or two high look, meaning if there was one safety middle of the field, you're working to your left. If there's two high safeties right or split safety look, you're working to your right. Or there could be a three by one set where you're checking your backside, singled up route, if you like, you take it. If not, you're probably working a quick progression to the other side. So that used to be like the simplest form of passing back when I was young, back when a lot of quarterbacks were growing up through an era in a time where you used to play under center a little bit more or even if you were in shotgun, that was part of the quick game. The RPO game has essentially replaced that because you get the ability to put the defense in conflict much more because there's that run pass conflict of reading that, that overhang defender, or whoever, whatever defender it is to decide if you want to throw or run the football. And if you think about what three step passing game was, it was like a glorified handoff. It was a higher percentage pass that you're going to be able to complete and not get a big gain, but move the sticks or at least get enough of a game where it puts you in third and manageable or you're back on track. If you Happen to take a loss on first down and so you're back in third and manageable. Right. You know, in those instances. So to me, the, the subtle differences in how the game is taught at high school, to college and now to the NFL is one of those things that, like, it takes time and, and like you're making these decisions in seconds. 1, 1,000, 2, 1,000, ball's got to be out and you've got all these other things you have to be worried about. It's not really that way at a lot of the colleges, even with some of the NFL, you know, coaches that are down at that level or even what they're asking of, you know, what they're doing. And it's why the NFL has had to adapt a lot of their offensive scheme to what these quarterbacks are accustomed to doing because they don't have the time to develop and no one has the patience anymore to see if they can develop into being that guy. They have to be able to show it in their rookie year. Otherwise everyone throws them to the wayside.

[Lavar Arrington]

That's weird, man. It's unfortunate for these guys that just get lumped in. Like, can think about Kenny Pickett. What's he on his third team? Third team, he just got drafted.

[Dan Patrick]

He just got traded.

[Lavar Arrington]

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