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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
Chase Daniel, ESPN NFL and college football analyst. He joins us on the program. What would you say to those who are critical of Dan Orlovsky's opinion analysis of Ty Simpson over Fernando Mendoza?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, look, I, I talked to Dan quite a bit that after that thing that he said with Ty Simpson over text. And you know, he's just explained to me, I'm like, dude, you don't have to explain to me, like you have an opinion and, and you're one of the few people that watches every single snap. I mean, there's quite a few that are out there, but then to be able to regurgitate it to the public. Here's where I told him that he was a little bit untrue and when he went on the Pat McAfee show, because I have no issue whatsoever. And I told Dan this to his face. Like, I like that, Like, I tend to agree. Like, I think Ty Simpson's way closer to QB1. I don't think he's QB1 then he is QB3. But here's where I went and got on him a little bit because we're friends. I said, you said to, you know, millions of people out there, whether it's social media, Pat McAfee show, whatever, that Mendoza didn't play in any big games. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, dan, did you see his college football playoff run? Did you see him against the number one defense in the nation in the Big Ten championship game? And then he went on to be like, I'm like, no, Dan, you don't understand. Ten touchdowns, one interception during those four games. It is the greatest, one of the greatest runs that we've seen in history. Plus, you did it with Indiana against Blue Bloods. I mean, that was a row of teams that. And so I think that's probably like, I don't really care. Like, there's a lot of people, I've talked to some teams, I talked to a few teams last night that have Simpson over Mendoza, and that's fine, but we just got to understand that quarterback evaluation, sort of a crapshoot. I, I, I appreciate Dan in his opinion and the platform that he's given. And I think it's, I think it's absolutely ridiculous. That, you know, people are saying, Dan's represented by caa. Ty Simpson's represented by caa. Look, I don't, I don't play any attention to that. I just got on the Dan for him saying Mendoza didn't play in big games.
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Dan Patrick
What does Ty Simpson do better than Fernando Mendoza?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, I think he's a more natural thrower of the football. Like, like when you.
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Dan Patrick
What does that mean?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, when, when I talk to people in the league still or, or former players who are analysts, it just like his throwing motion, his mechanics from the ground up just look beautiful. Dan like, like, like yesterday in his, like everything you would ever teach a young kid on how to throw a football, this is what you want it to look like. And so Mendoza is a little bit more robotic. I think Mendoza has a little bit of a stronger arm. And so when you're throwing it and you're watching it in shorts, you're going to be like, man. And like, Look, I get Mendoza 6, 5. I get Ty Simpson 6, 1, 6 2. But like people who have played the position, I think more so gravitate toward that and get lost in that. Although that's not, that's not even remotely all of the evaluation. But when I watch them, I, I feel the same thing. I'm like, man, he's really, really good within the pocket. Got really good mechanics. Now he's only played 15 games. And, and I saw your take and I thought it was right a couple days ago. I'm like, you want your quarterback to have more than 15 starts? Like, I, I totally agree with you. Right. But you watch the quality of those starts at the beginning of the year. And I've said this before and I don't think this is a reach. And you can go back and look on my X account, Fritzi or whatever and pull this up because like I said, when Ty Simpson after like I think the Missouri game, which was Game 8 or 9 of his season, I'm like, there's nobody playing better in college football like he is. He is locked in to like a very high top pick and he is probably going to win the Heisman if he continues that. That's not being facetious, that's not being hot take, that's not being clickbait. Like you just watch it and it's like, wow. And then all of a sudden it's like a huge drop off in play. Yes, he got sick. Gastritis. Yes, he got hurt a little bit. The offensive line didn't play very well. No run game. And then the last four or five games he really struggled. Got a lot of happy feet. And I think if you're taking Ty Simpson in the draft, Dan, that's the number one thing that you have to ask. And I've talked to teams that have asked, like, what happened? Was it just because you were sick? Was it just because you were down to 185 pounds? He just looked like a completely different player. That's my issue on why Ty Simpson's not quarterback one. There was a massive drop off in play.
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Dan Patrick
Where would Tom Brady's arm today rank among the starting quarterbacks?
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Dan Hurley
Wow.
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Chase Daniel
You know, for me, I never thought of Tom Brady is like this like huge arm type guy like John Elway. Right. I would say it probably be middle of the pack. I mean that, that's not what Brady was ever going to win you with. Brady was always going to win you with his brain and his arm. And I feel like I'm getting back into a little bit of a hole right here because I'm like, well, Brady, like, he's like not the strongest arm, like the goat for sure. But there's, and I think this is a good point because it's like there's so much more to playing quarterback then looking good in shorts, like I said with Ty Simpson and, and I think that's where Fernando Mendoza really crosses that line for me as quarterback.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but I was bringing up Brady because he played in that flag football
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Chase Daniel
and he still, he looks good, man,
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Dan Patrick
for a guy who's. What is he, 48 now?
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Chase Daniel
48, yeah.
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Dan Patrick
You know, unbelievable. I mean, he's still, he's still slinging it.
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Chase Daniel
He really is. Still got it, man.
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Dan Patrick
We're talking to Chase Daniel, ESPN NFL college football analyst. You know, we, we look at this draft. It's not a sexy draft. You got, you know, Mendoza's going one. The curiosity is Jeremiah Love, is he a top five pick? And then you're going to have Ty Simpson. Other than that, you got, you know, a few wide receivers, some edge rushers there. But I'm curious about your philosophy of drafting a running back. And I don't, I don't look at Jeremiah Love as a running back. I just look at him as an influencer. Like he's, he's going to be out there returning kicks, catching passes and he can hit home runs. Would you take him in the top five if you're Tennessee, do you take him if he's there?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah. That's where it gets interesting for me. If you're Tennessee, I think you have to really look at taking an offensive weapon for Cam Ward because I like for the most part what Cam Ward put on tape now, it was a tough season, a lot of change, a lot of all this. He just doesn't have any weapons. And I would agree with you, there's not many backs out there that do the type of things that Jeremiah Love does. I just think he's a really, really good prospect in a really, really like shallow draft class of like top tier talent, right? You got the edge rushers, you got the quarterback, really one that's in the top five in my opinion. So then you're thinking, well, you know, do you want to get an edge? I don't think an offensive tackle necessarily goes in the top five. And so I think you're sort of backing yourself into Jeremiah Love. Here's what's interesting to me is like his contract's not going to be that much compared to Saquon Barkley or compared to all these other guys if you take them and you get them for five years in the first round regardless. But if you can have a guy that can come in and be a three down back. I think he's a lot better blocker than people give him credit for. I think he's really good out of the backfield. Like, there's no way he's going to make it there. But like the Saints to me make a ton of sense because like I was with Alvin Kamara when Sean Payton drafted him. Now I don't think they're the same player. I think Love's a little bit bigger, but he can have that kind of impact that early on out of the backfield catching the ball and just the type of person he is. I would absolutely be interested in taking him if I'm Tennessee Titans.
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Dan Patrick
Is there a third quarterback?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, look, that, that is, that is the, the thousand dollar question, man. Because when you look at it, it's like for me at least, right, it's like my opinion is like Mendoza and Simpson and I do think they're close. Like I do think they're close. I think Mendoza is one, I think Simpson is, is two. And then to me there's a huge drop off to where it's maybe, maybe end of day two, beginning of day three. And that that person to me would be either Garrett Nussmeier or Drew Aller. Now Garrett Nussmeier to me is an interesting one because he's a little bit, you know, coaches kid, he's going to interview well, he's going to look good in shorts. But when you watch the film this past year, yes, I know he was hurt. Yes, Ellis, it just wasn't very good. You go back two years ago in 2024 and you're watching, you're like, okay, like I can see some traits of a high quality backup. Maybe in the right scheme and right fit, you have to play, you can be successful. And then Drew Aller, I mean, to me, like, I really liked him two years ago, but he's probably the most frustrating prospect I've watched in the past couple years when you break down quarterbacks because he has all the traits in the world. Like, like you look at him just physically, Dan, and you would have said in 2024. I mean, this is what I want my guy to be made of. And then you watch the film, you're like, what are you doing? Like, there's, there's these dope plays here and there that you're just like, ah. And it shares a sentiment of some NFL teams I've talked to with it. But like, if you have good coaching and if you feel really good about developing, I'm not going to say he's going to come in and play right away, but if you develop them, high level backup can be a starter. And then obviously like Carson Beck, I think like there's, there's hit or miss on him. It's just a really, it's like if you want a backup quarterback after Ty Simpson and Mendoza, this is possibly your draft.
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Dan Patrick
How does Kyler Murray work in Minnesota?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, that, that's a great one. I really like it a lot, to be honest with you. I, I think the second that, you know, KOC signed Kyler and then resigned Carson Wentz, like, I just think J.J. mcCarthy is going to be quarterback three and could be, you know, on the move in the draft if someone will take him. Like, I just, I don't think his, as far as, as, as, you know, JJ McCarthy goes, I think his time with Minnesota sort of probably done now with Kyler. Here's what is really good about Kyler because I like the way he plays, but he's very much, I want to do it myself type quarterback, right? So like I'm going to put it all on me. I'm going to do all this. He doesn't have to do that anymore. Like, you look at the offensive system, he's going to, plus the playmakers around him. If KFC can get him to just be like, hey, just throw an out route to the field on time. You don't want to take his stinger away by scramble. But like just throw a three step pitch. Let's just, let's just move the ball down the field. He's never done that. But with Kyler, it makes a lot of sense. You're getting him for $1.3 million, but he could turn his career around. I mean, he, he really could. And the fact that he's going to a guy like koc, man, I really like it.
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Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you as always. Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you again leading up to the draft.
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Chase Daniel
All right, Dan, thanks for having me on.
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Dan Patrick
That's Chase Daniel. You can check out the Chase Daniel show on YouTube. He breaks down the quarterbacks. He's great at doing it.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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Paulie Fusco
Paulie Fusco here with Tony Fusco. Yo, as everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning Paulie and Tony Fusco Show.
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Tony Fusco
Yeah.
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Paulie Fusco
But instead of us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show.
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Dan Patrick
Quick, knowledgeable and funny. Opinionated. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Paulie Fusco
What are you doing? You're interrupting our promo.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally out of context.
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Paulie Fusco
Well, after this promo, I'm going to take you out and beat you.
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Dan Patrick
Let me put this into context.
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Tony Fusco
Shut up.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie Fusco
Anyway, just listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
He is part of the Windy City Bulls and the all time leading score in G League history. Were you aware of that record the other night when you put up 59?
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Tony Fusco
Yeah, it was a really cool moment, man. I think my teammates, they were, they're like, you're getting this record tonight. So they had my support and they really wanted me to break it. So it was a really cool moment, man.
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Dan Patrick
How much could you score in a game?
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Tony Fusco
The 59 was pretty exhausting. So I don't know, I don't know how much more I could do than that. So I'd probably say that's close to my limit.
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Dan Patrick
So you can't go 83, like Bam, out of bio.
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Tony Fusco
I haven't done it yet, man. I don't know. That's. That's incredibly impressive, I think, no matter what the situation is. So that's. That was really cool.
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Dan Patrick
What are you told? Because we see your abilities, but what do teams tell you when you get a 10 day contract or you're brought up for a little while and then you go back to the G League?
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Tony Fusco
Yeah, it's kind of different in every situation, you know, I think, you know, being in the situation where you're fighting to find a roster spot, you. Different teams need different things. So whatever it is, I try to adapt and do that, you know, and it's been tough, man. A lot of times I've been told, you know, you're an NBA player, like a coach. I had actually one year, you know, being on a two way, you're at the bottom of the roster, you made the roster, but you're kind of the guy that goes back and forth. And I had a coach tell me one year, he's like, man, you're an NBA player, like all you need is an opportunity. And I almost like was laughing, I was like, well, you got to give me that opportunity. Really, I'm just trying to make the most of whatever this situation is. It's tough, man.
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Dan Patrick
Well, you hear about you don't play defense or you're not good at playing defense, you're not good off the ball. Like these are things that have been said. Are those fair, those fair criticisms?
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Tony Fusco
You know, my two games this year when I got called up, the beginning of the year where I got legit minutes, I was actually leading the league and still. So I don't know if I agree with that totally. So there's always going to be something, man. I feel like that's the thing I've been trying to do in the G League is just show like oh, you said this. Wasn't that that. Well, that's not the case. And some people are always going to say certain things, man, but I've really got a lot of love and respect from, you know, peers in the league that I really appreciate and coaches in the league that I really looked up to. So I think just. Just trying to find that opportunity in that Right situation, man.
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Dan Patrick
What was your welcome to the NBA moment?
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Tony Fusco
I would say, with the. With the Lakers. That was where I started. And that team was LeBron, Carmelo Rondo, Dwight Howard. And I was just like, I'm this kid from this small town in Gate City. I'm like, what am I in some video game right now? So that. That was shocking and something I had to adjust to for a couple days.
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Dan Patrick
Did you get to keep the uniform?
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Tony Fusco
Yeah, absolutely. I always, always try to make sure I keep that and have it. You know, some of my kids hopefully can see it one day.
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Dan Patrick
Do you introduce yourself to LeBron or does he say hello to you?
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Tony Fusco
I would. I definitely introduce myself. And, yeah, I don't think he. In that situation, he would ever have to introduce himself to me. So, you know, it was an honor being just a part of that and getting to see some things.
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Dan Patrick
But are you starstruck on the floor when you're playing? Like, I'm guarding this guy that I grew up watching. Did you have that moment?
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Tony Fusco
I think in my first year, you know, you just adjust to that. I think at the end of the day, we're all competitors, and you want to win, and you kind of flip that switch once you get on the floor. But there's a level of respect, you know, when you're a little kid and you watch someone and they mean something to you, they make you love the game that you're always going to have for those people.
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Dan Patrick
Do you think you're too good at dunking? That it overshadowed you as a basketball player? That maybe you were looked at as he does? That and not maybe being fair to your actual basketball game?
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Tony Fusco
I think that that could be maybe something from the outside eye. But, like, these scouts and these teams, like, their job is to know basketball players. So I think anybody that, like, knows basketball, like, that is just something I got to be a part of and I'm incredibly grateful for. I'll lean into it, you know, like, that was such a cool thing that I got to do. There's. I'm never going to be like, oh, man, I hate dunking now because of that. Like, that's a beautiful part of my Life. And I think, you know, the people that really love basketball and into basketball, like, that's just a part of me that's not really who I am.
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Dan Patrick
He's Mac McClung, the Windy City Bulls. But why not be in the slam dunk contest this year?
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Chase Daniel
Well, they.
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Tony Fusco
Quite frankly, they didn't really want me in it this year. So that was. It was like a. They wanted me in it. And then some things happened, and, you know, it kind of just went back and forth, and at the end, they kind of didn't want me in the contest. So I'd already prepared. That's why I released those dunks on social media, because I'd already prepared. And I was like, well, you know, I teamed up with a company, marketing, and I was like, well, I might as well make the most of this.
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Dan Patrick
But I'm. Was it. You weren't on a roster? Is that why they didn't want you in the slam dunk contest?
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Tony Fusco
No, I made the Chicago Bulls roster maybe a little bit before that, so.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Tony Fusco
I don't know. They told me that it was. It was just. It was a weird situation, man. I think they. They said a couple guys didn't want to do it if I was in it. And I was like, okay, well, I don't want to ruin that. And wait, why.
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Dan Patrick
Why wouldn't they want to be in there? Because you were going to win.
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Tony Fusco
I don't know, man. I feel like a lot of these guys are really talented, so that would make sense to me. I mean, a lot of things in this league don't make sense. A lot of times I'm just going with the flow, man. I really am just going with the flow.
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Dan Patrick
How would you do? Michael Jordan in his prime? You in your prime? Slam dunk contest?
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Tony Fusco
That's a tough question, Dan. I think the times have changed. Like, kind of like in the game of basketball, like, everything progresses. So I think if Michael Jordan was in this era, he would probably. Probably have so much different dunks and so many creative things. So, I mean, I would. I think I'd be a little crazy to say I'd take over MJ like that, man, so. And I got a lot of. So much respect and love for him. I would never say that I beat him, but it'd be fun. I would. I would definitely take the challenge. It'd be a lot of fun.
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Dan Patrick
Have you met him?
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Tony Fusco
No, never met MJ before. It'd be super cool, though.
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Dan Patrick
Can you leave from the foul line?
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Tony Fusco
My best jumps are off two feet when I Was in high school, man. When I was. When I was younger, I used to be up.
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Dan Patrick
That wasn't that long ago, Mac.
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Tony Fusco
Yeah, it feels like it adds two years to everyone.
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Dan Patrick
You were really. You got. You got like, viral famous. In high school, it was like, Zion Williamson, this guy, you know, Everybody wanted to see those videos. Like, did you feel like a star when you were in high school?
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Tony Fusco
That was some crazy, crazy times. I was. I was in a town of 1500 people, so everybody already kind of knew me. And it was. The cool part about it was when we would travel to different schools, they would like. School would like, shut down early because people be outside waiting for the games. And it kind of felt like we were the kind of like, this band that was traveling. It was like me and my best friends, man. It was such a cool experience. And, you know, you go on YouTube and like, oh, that got 2 million views last night. It's just. It was. It was so weird being from a small town and, like, getting that attention, man. But it was really cool for me and my friends.
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Dan Patrick
So it was boy band. You were like, you know, New Kids on the Block or One Dimension. One. What is it? One Direction?
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Tony Fusco
Yeah, we weren't that cool, but we felt good. It really did make us feel good.
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Dan Patrick
So what's the future? What are you, 27.
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Tony Fusco
27 years old? The future for me, man, I'm not sure. I've really, like, kind of going back to this situation and the record and my G league career. Like, all I've tried to do. All I tried to do is make the most of wherever I'm at in that moment. And whether that be the dunk contest, the opportunity I was given with that, or being in the G League, I've just tried to make the most of the situation. So I'm not attached to any outcome, but just whatever happens is I really, truly believe I'm not a victim of anything, man. So whatever happens is how it's supposed to be.
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Dan Patrick
Official height and weight, I measured at the combat.
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Tony Fusco
I measured 6 to 185.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Maybe it looks better when you're shorter. Like, if you're six six doing that, it's not as impressive.
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Tony Fusco
Yeah, maybe I maybe Wish I was 6 6. That would probably give me a.
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Dan Patrick
If. If you're 6 6, you're not winning the slam dunk contest, but you're playing in the NBA.
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Tony Fusco
There we go. Well, that's. That's the interesting trade off.
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Dan Patrick
Hey, it's been fun, been entertaining. I hope you get that true shot where you get to actually play and, you know, prove a lot of these people wrong. So congratulations on the scoring record, Dan.
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Tony Fusco
I really appreciate it, man. I appreciate you having me on. Thank you very much.
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Dan Hurley
Not really. I. I'm. I'm pretty oblivious, you know, to the circumstances. But you know, maybe. I don't know. I don't think I've ever gotten a technical in an NCAA tournament game. I would have to have my stat group so I don't know, you know, maybe this time of year, you know, everyone knows that everyone's watching. So, you know, the referees also got to be careful that they don't give me a weak technical.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, I hope I didn't jinx you here for tomorrow night. Yeah. Mick Cronin got one for clapping.
- [32:48]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't know what the. Obviously, the prop bets. Well, I'm sure there were lots of them on. I don't know what I went off at, but somebody wants some money.
- [33:01]
Dan Patrick
Are you now Dan Hurley, like Danny Hurley? Is that. That's a previous life?
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Chase Daniel
No.
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Dan Hurley
I think maybe when I get in my 60s, I'll go back to Danny. When I want to feel younger, because I'm old, maybe 70s, I'll go back to Danny.
- [33:17]
Dan Patrick
Okay. All right. I know that you've reached out to a lot of people when you consider the Lakers job. You reached out to Tom Izzo, who you face tomorrow night. What did Coach say? Because I know he was thinking about going to the Cavaliers. The. What was that? The year that LeBron left the Cavaliers, he was going to win and coach. So what advice did he give you on the Lakers, John?
- [33:41]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I mean, you know, coaches, oh, he meet. He walked me through just, you know, his. His thought process when he went through, you know, like the, you know, the decision making of making that move to the NBA and the pros and cons. And, you know, he obviously, you know, at that time, you know, college was very different. And, you know, the point that Coachman had made to me was, hey, I think you really got to consider it our sport right now. It's so unregulated, it's such a mess, you know, that you. I would have considered this more now than I did back when college basketball, you know, was, you know, more regulated. So I, But I, you know, coaches has been there for me on lots of different things, you know, and I've studied coach for a long time. Like, I have all the great coaches, you know, I've studied, you know, their films as a high school coach trying to learn, you know, favorite practice drills of Tom Izzo, anything on motivation and leadership, culture building. You know, I've studied all the great coaches and taken advice from all the great ones.
- [34:49]
Dan Patrick
Can you see yourself coaching at his age?
- [34:55]
Dan Hurley
I can't see myself coaching at his age, but I also can't see myself not coaching. You know, like, when you're part of teams and this is so, so much for part of your identity, I always say to myself, I can't Believe these guys are coaching in their 70s.
- [35:09]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Dan Hurley
Yeah. But then, you know, then you find yourself coaching in your 70s, like Pacino,
- [35:15]
Dan Patrick
I mean, he, he's a life.
- [35:17]
Dan Hurley
I mean, these guys are. It's incredible to me, you know, like, it really is the energy level, how they, you know, the thing about college, you know, college coaching, college basketball is like that. You know, the head coach drives the organization. I mean, they drive it, drive it, drive it and are pushing everyone around them to the max. And, you know, obviously, you know, with the amount of years those guys put in and what they achieved and to still be pushing that hard in their 70s. Incredible.
- [35:45]
Dan Patrick
Can you be out coached?
- [35:48]
Dan Hurley
I think that's a little bit of a. Whoever won the game out coached the other guy thing. You know, I think, I think it's more about matchups, especially this time of year. You know, you've got great coaches coaching all 16 of these teams. You know, it all comes down to, I think, matchups, who's playing their best at this time of year, halftime adjustments and all that stuff. I think it's way, way overrated.
- [36:11]
Dan Patrick
Talking to Dan Hurley, the Connecticut basketball coach, they got Michigan State tomorrow night. St. John's getting a five seed after winning the Big east is blank.
- [36:24]
Dan Hurley
Crap. You know, I mean, I mean, you know, crap. And then having the, you know, the two Big east teams, you know, in the same region, you know, it's probably the same.
- [36:37]
Dan Patrick
Do you think that they were hoping that there would be a rematch?
- [36:43]
Dan Hurley
I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that they're definitely the committee. They got a weird sense of humor or they do a great job of trying to give the people what they want. And I think no matter how this week ends up in, you know, in D.C. you're going to get an Elite Eight game that's going to be, you know, it's going to be incredible. And you've got, you know, Duke, you know, rick Patino and St. John's Yukon in Michigan State.
- [37:10]
Dan Patrick
I had somebody ask me this and I didn't know if they were joking and I realized they weren't. They said, can Yukon be a Cinderella story as a two seat? I go, no. Well, I'll ask you, are you a Cinderella story this year?
- [37:27]
Dan Hurley
No, I don't think so. I think we've been, you know, consistently, you know, consistently great the whole year. You know, we haven't always. Yeah, we haven't performed in the championship moments, so it'll be interesting to see how we respond this week. But yeah, we played, we had as good a non conference Wins as anyone in the country. And then we went 19 and three in the big East. So, you know, and then, you know, we won our first two, you know, first two tournament games by double figure points. So I do think we're, you know, we're kind of coming in, you know, a lot quieter than we did in 23 and 24 and that's probably serves us pretty well.
- [38:05]
Dan Patrick
I'm curious about the future of the mid major here, Dan, because I don't know if these last two years are an aberration or is that the future of the blue bloods are going to take over and mid majors are not going to be what they used to be.
- [38:24]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, well, I definitely think that, you know, I think it's going to get tougher for mid majors because I think more high majors are going to spend more money in this off season. So I think it's going to get even tougher, I think to make the NCAA tournament and then I think it's going to be tougher for the mid majors. But then I also, on the flip side, I think you're going to see even more international players coming into college basketball. I just think the inventory is going to grow as it makes more sense for international players that can make more money in college in America. And then that I think is just going to create more inventory of talent that the mid major, you know, ends up with, with better players and they could maybe, you know, win more of these early conference games.
- [39:11]
Dan Patrick
But I wonder though if you would rather get a transfer who has proven or you got a high school kid.
- [39:21]
Dan Hurley
I mean, in a perfect world I'd rather have the high school kid. And I think the way that we try to do it is a majority of our team we want is homegrown boys that, that a relationship with, we have a culture, we got a real connection, you got a real fabric of a team and, and, and then supplement with, with what you need in the portal or, or at least, you know, in most cases have multiple years with the transfer so it doesn't feel so transactional and then feel like you're just putting together a mercenary squad.
- [39:51]
Dan Patrick
What's the most money somebody has asked you for?
- [39:57]
Dan Hurley
4 and a half million, I think.
- [40:00]
Dan Patrick
How does that conversation go?
- [40:03]
Dan Hurley
It doesn't actually go on with me because I, I'll, I'll meet with the agents to talk about the vision for the player, you know, on the official visit with the, with the transfer or the high school player they could sit in on, you know, how we plan to develop the player how do we use them in the system, whatever. But once we get to, you know, any type of negotiating that just goes to the gm, Tom Moore, and then he just kind of walks in and out of the boardroom telling me where, where the negotiations going, and then, you know. Yeah, I try to stay out of that. I don't, you know, the negotiations get personal.
- [40:42]
Dan Patrick
How would you do coaching the UConn women's team? And how would Gino do well, coaching the men's team?
- [40:50]
Dan Hurley
Well, I think, you know, Gino would obviously do better coaching the men's team, coaching the women, because you, you know, because Gino's maybe the, you know, the best coach of all time. So I would be. I don't. I would be more relaxed. Obviously, I wouldn't be. I would enjoy. I don't know, they've won 27 or 20 or 30 games this year by 25 points or more. I don't know how I would handle that. I don't know what type of stress I would create and, you know, what type of tension could I create there. It would probably make me crazy. I would long for a brutal loss. Boss, at some point, you would, you
- [41:28]
Dan Patrick
would probably consult your wife a lot more.
- [41:32]
Dan Hurley
I would, yeah. She. She would, yeah, she'd have a lot to say, too, and, and she'd be constantly monitoring me.
- [41:41]
Dan Patrick
You, you would have to find somebody to yell at, and it'd be hard to find somebody to yell at on the women's team.
- [41:48]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, it would be. And, you know, and I don't know, I, I, or the officials are mostly female or. I mean, it was at half and half. You know, I just, It'd be an adjustment. Different world.
- [42:03]
Dan Patrick
Will you watch the games tonight?
- [42:06]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, you know, we'll keep these guys up and do video. It's, it's, you know, the game's gonna start for us close to nine, you know, so we, but, but last week, we played it at. I think we started our first round game at 10:30 Eastern Time. So our body clock is used to playing late at night, but, yeah, I mean, only in years that I get eliminated early do I not watch. I, you know, I refuse. I boycott the tournament in years where we're not in contention.
- [42:36]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I understand that. You know, why put yourself through the agony of watching somebody and you go, we're better than them.
- [42:44]
Dan Hurley
Yeah. And it's like, you know, when you're a little kid or something, and if you didn't get invited to a birthday party or a pool party or something in your neighborhood, and then what do you going to do? Go up to the fence and listen to the kids splash around in the water? No one's doing that.
- [42:59]
Dan Patrick
Is there something you're. You want to tell me that you didn't get invited to the pool parties in the neighborhood? Did anybody have a pool in Jersey City?
- [43:08]
Dan Hurley
There was one. There was one up at the top of the block, right down a couple of houses down from Darren Savino, buddy of ours, coaches at ucla. And there was literally one pool in this, like, probably two block radius. And on the way to the park where my. Where my dad and mom would put us through the drills, me and my brother, the jump rope, the ball handling drills, the shooting drills. In the heat of summer, we had to kind of dribble past that pool while they were splashing around, barbecuing, listening to music in, like June, July, August. So no scars.
- [43:43]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but how many titles did those people win?
- [43:48]
Dan Hurley
I mean, I don't think. I don't think they.
- [43:50]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
- [43:51]
Dan Hurley
Sports wasn't their deal.
- [43:55]
Dan Patrick
Was your mom putting you through drills with your dad?
- [43:59]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, because during the week, my dad, you know, he was a probation officer, you know, so during the summer, you know, my dad didn't teach at St. Anthony, so he didn't get the summers off. So, you know, either me and Bob would write up the plan for the day or my dad would have the. The workout written out, the UB brown box drills, the agility warmup. I mean, we would chalk, you know, X's on the. On the court so we could do our agility work. My mom would have a whistle and she would put us through the paces as the neighbor, as people would be looking out at us in astonishment. Neighbors.
- [44:36]
Dan Patrick
So your dad, probation officer, I'm gonna guess. Pretty tough to get away with stuff in. In your teens.
- [44:42]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, scare. I mean. Yeah, you knew. I mean, he just, growing up in Jersey City, you know, the things that he did just as a kid was raised in the street and as an outside dog, not an indoor dog, and I mean, he, you know, and then being the probation officer, kind of driving around with him when he would go on house calls, trying to find, you know, I guess his clients that had not come in to take, you know, the urine test or what have you, just seeing grown men scramble as the Dodge Caravan was driving down Martin Luther King Drive, you know, you know, you can't get away with stuff.
- [45:22]
Dan Patrick
But I wonder that, had you been, you know, raised in the suburbs as opposed to where you're raised, would you be. How different would you be? Or Would you be different as a person, as a coach, player?
- [45:38]
Dan Hurley
I would be a lot different. I. I think the, you know, the advantage of growing up, you know, where we grew up, growing up in the city, growing up in North Jersey, Jersey City. I just think you've got a real versatile, relatable way about you. You feel like you could communicate with a very diverse group of people from all different types of backgrounds. I mean, Jersey City, I think next to Queens is the most diverse city in America. So you develop a connection to all people. You're comfortable out on the street corner, but also you develop a comfortability in the boardroom.
- [46:21]
Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you. Do you have big plans for today?
- [46:25]
Dan Hurley
Just the final prep. I mean, this is actually a good time of year, Dan, because the practices are short, the hay is in the barn, and. And you feel a lot less pressure this year. You feel like getting to this weekend, you're back in contention. You're, you know, you're playing one of the best teams in the country in Michigan State. You know, let's. It feels like a lot of pressure's off. Let's. Let's let it go. Right, Rip.
- [46:47]
Dan Patrick
Did you just come on because you were bored today?
- [46:50]
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I do. I need time.
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Dan Hurley
this brain right now needs distraction.
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Dan Patrick
All right, well, yeah, hopefully I provided one for you. Thanks. Great to talk to you. Good luck tomorrow night.
- [47:03]
Dan Hurley
Appreciate you, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
That's Dan Hurley or Danny Hurley, depending on how old he is.
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