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Jason McIntyre
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
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Noah
You got a hoodie on. Take it all.
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Manny
I'm Manny. I'm Noah.
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Noah
This is Devin.
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Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? Well, I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same, go off on me, I deserve it, you know.
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Noah
Lock him up.
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Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. No Such Thing.
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Jason McIntyre
Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I think he poisoned me. I feel trapped. My breathing changes. I realize, wow, like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. But these aren't just stories of destruction, their stories of survival.
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Devin McCourty
I'm gonna tell my story and I'm.
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Jason McIntyre
Gonna hold my head up. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Devin McCourty
I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focus on thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Jason McIntyre
Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're looking for another heavy podcast about trauma, this ain't it. This is for the ones who had to survive and still show up as brilliant, loud, soft and whole. The Unwanted Sorority is where black women, femmes and gender expansive survivors of sexual violence rewrite the rules on healing, support and what happens after. And I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Devin McCourty
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, we made it to a Friday. Morale is high. Everybody's playing nice today to meet Friday at that, in case you're wondering. Beer can chicken enchiladas, beer can duck enchilada verdes, and we got some street corn as well. What is the Spanish elote? Elote. What about esquites? E, S, Q, U, I, T, E, S. Mexican street corn. Do we know the esquites? Is that what it is? All I know is who has it better than we do. Nobody. I have here. Esquites. Yeah. Is known as Mexican street corn salad or elote. Okay.
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Todd
Oh, it's either or.
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Noah
Either or.
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Devin McCourty
Okay. All right.
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Todd
But if you see elote on a menu, you just order, correct?
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Devin McCourty
Yes, Todd.
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Noah
And if you don't order, it's elote nada.
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Paulie
Okay.
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Devin McCourty
Say hello.
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Paulie
Serviceable.
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Devin McCourty
Serviceable. No, no. Okay. You know what? I'm in a good mood today. Everything's nice on social media. Everything is good. Okay.
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Paulie
No gong at least, so that's good.
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Noah
Is that gong worthy?
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Devin McCourty
No. I'm going to give you a mulligan. Okay.
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Paulie
I like a second chance.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah. I mean, we're fired up. We had football last night is preseason football. And Paulie is always the first to say, don't overreact to preseason football. And I go, okay, so I'm watching all three games last night, and I'm seeing some things. It's fun. And I go, n. Can't overreact. I walk in today, I hear Paulie talking to somebody, man, that Tanner McGee or McKee or whatever, the kid out of Stanford, and he's unbelievable. Did you cam Miller out of North Dakota State? And then I'm going, paul, what are you doing?
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Todd
It's embarrassing because I'm aware of it whilst doing it. I think I text you last night and you hit. I think you blocked me. I said I go so much to trade for that backup quarterback for the Eagles. And I also.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah. Tanner McKee.
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Todd
Tanner McKee.
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Devin McCourty
McKee out of Stanford, tall drink of water, another 65 quarterback out of Stanford. Six six, two, three one might be too tall.
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Todd
Wait, no, six seven is officially too tall.
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Devin McCourty
Oh, it is.
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Todd
Yes. Matt Ryan told us he rounded down to six five, but he's actually six six. He was afraid to be six seven.
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Devin McCourty
I don't know. Paxton Lynch, I thought listed at six.
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Todd
Seven coming out of college.
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Devin McCourty
Came down to six six.
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Todd
Yes. For the draft. And then went back to six, seven after the draft.
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Devin McCourty
And then you had Mark McGuire's brother, Dan McGuire. Dan McGuire was six, eight, I think. Brockoff, Sweiler too tall.
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Todd
German for tall.
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Devin McCourty
Okay. All right, so we're ready to go. We're off to a great start already. Morale is high. It's a meat Friday. Everybody's in a good mood. We're playing nice today. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. And for over 40 years, Tire Rack's been helping you find the right tires for how and what and where you drive. And they can do it for you. It's really simple. Ship fast and free backed by free road hazard protection. Convenient installation options. Mobile tire installation. Tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you for allowing us into your homes and our radio affiliates around the country as well. Operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls on this beat Friday 8 7, 7, 3 DP show email address DP danpatrick.com Twitter Twitter handle @DP Show Chargers. That's a big loss. Chargers didn't play and they suffered a big loss. They got Rashawn Slater out for the season. They just signed him up. And the first thing I thought of and Fritzi then sent me a text message, maybe it was the first thing he thought of. So here's Slater, who's one of the best tackles in football. He's a two time Pro bowler and I think he's in his fourth year. This is a team. If you talk about a non quarterback injury, that's devastating. This is it because you got Justin Herbert's blind side and this is a team that likes to run the football. And I the first thing I thought of Jerry Jones talking to the media maybe today saying, you know, this is why you, you know, anything could happen. You could lose a guy in practice and you know, do you want to sign up somebody for that kind of money? And first thing I thought of because Jerry's been talking about this, that you can get hit by a car. You know, the negotiations continue or at least lack of negotiation. There's so much more that's coming out now about Micah Parsons side of the equation here, his agent, I mean they tried to get a deal done in 2023. I mean they've had discussions here and this isn't about a handshake agreement. And now there is a real question and I read this yesterday, does Micah really want to be Traded and that they were some people in the Dallas organization who don't think that this is, you know, a stunt or a bluff, that he's at that point where he wants to be traded. Until I hear a proposed trade, I think Micah Parsons. It makes a whole lot more sense to stay there, because if you happen to win a Super bowl as a Cowboy, it's forever. Think about all the Cowboys. I mean, we talk about what happened 30 years ago. It's, you know, but it's been a generation. But still, you remember the triplets. You can run down the starting lineup for those teams. When you. When you win a Super Bowl. Any. You know, usually anytime we remember those teams. But when you win a Super bowl and you're in certain cities like Dallas or Green Bay, Pittsburgh, maybe San Francisco, it's like, we'll remember you forever. But that brings me to one of our guests today, Drew Brees. Is there a more important athlete to his city based off a championship than Drew Brees? Let me just limit it to football right now. Is there anybody that you can think of in the last 50 years, they want to. Now I can. I can throw out Joe Namath with the jets winning a Super bowl, because that was more than just for, you know, New York. That was. That was bringing together both leagues that. That helped bring about the merger. So the importance can't be lost on that. But can you think of a singular person, athlete in the NFL history that they won a championship and what it meant to their city more than what Drew Brees did to New Orleans? Yeah, Paulie.
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Todd
It's gonna be a tough one. I mean, this is so obvious because of Hurricane Katrina and what happened to the city. Drew Brees comes in town and gets them a Super Bowl. They were awful forever if you just did that. But if you look at the morale of the city a couple of years, more than a couple years after Katrina, it's such an ancillary benefit of what Drew Brees did. It be hard to top.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah. I don't know if anybody. I mean, even if we extrapolate this and go, let's include other sports. If I said baseball, is there somebody that comes to mind that you won a World Series? I would say shilling for the Red Sox. But since they've won since then, and. And Kurt's not beloved. Drew Brees is beloved. Schilling is not. But he came to mind as well. And I. I don't know. We're workshopping this. I didn't do homework on it. More than. Just think of you know, Drew Brees coming on and what he meant to New Orleans. Yes. Eaton. Yeah. I mean, I know he kind of is becoming like the Babe Ruth of.
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Paulie
This because he's sort of everything, but, I mean, it's.
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Devin McCourty
It's tough to not say LeBron and Cleveland. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's a good point. That's pretty important. Yeah, but he left. Brees played his career there in New Orleans. That also helps. You know, LeBron went to Miami and then he went to the Lakers. That's why I thought, boy, it'd be great if he came back and bookended his career and ended with the Cavaliers. But LeBron's bronze, you know, bringing their first championship. The Browns won NFL championships, but when we're talking about Super Bowls and NBA Finals and World Series, you know, that's. That's different. Yes.
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Noah
Todd, I think you can make an.
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Paulie
Argument for a big, Poppy. What he meant to Boston and the Boston Marathon, what happened, that tragedy and his passion speech.
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Devin McCourty
Yep, yep. He's more beloved than shill. Yes, Paul.
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Todd
I would say Joe Montana in the Bay Area, four Super Bowls. He walks on water up there. But they had other success after him. Steve Young continued the success. Drew Brees is such a standalone. It's Joe Montana's close, but not that close.
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Devin McCourty
But it would be as if somebody won a Super bowl in the year with the earthquake. But that was when you had Oakland and, you know, the Giants. You're playing in a World Series, but it didn't feel like somebody was responsible for the city coming back together. And that's what Drew did in New Orleans. Yeah, See.
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Paulie
Yeah, I was going to say that. Just if you're thinking Bay Area, it's.
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Devin McCourty
Tough to go with Joe Montana now exclusively because of Steph. Yeah, Yo. Yeah.
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Noah
I mean, yeah.
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Devin McCourty
Or Steve Young at the same position.
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Paulie
Steve Young at the same position.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah, it was same team. Devin McCourty, the former pro bowl defensive back with the Patriots. He'll join us coming up a little bit later on as well. Anthony Richardson in injured for the Colts, and, you know, it's a blind side hit. He didn't see it. And you had a free rusher there. He got whacked and dislocated his finger, and he'll be out for a little while. Now. You got Daniel Jones coming in there. I thought Daniel Jones was going to win that job, and he still might. But I think I don't want to give up on Anthony Richardson. They're just. He's too young with so much talent there. But he makes it difficult. He makes it difficult to go. Okay. Because I remember watching Florida play and I watched him and I go, golly. And then I also went with some of his throws. Oh, golly. He had this, like. Dante Culpepper to me was as talented as anybody who played the position. He was 6, 5, he was 2, 40, and he could run, he could throw when he was with Minnesota, and then he blew out his knee with the Dolphins. That was, you know, maybe the turning point with a few careers there with the Miami Dolphins. But you, you think about these guys and you go, that's just different. And at that position, you're looking for something that's unique. And we have, we're gonna have to wait a little while longer for Anthony Richardson. Talent is there and he, and he's got youth on his side. I just, I don't, I don't know how you put it all together. And you play Daniel Jones. That's why you brought him in. Because maybe you don't think Anthony Richardson's ready to go. And in fairness to Anthony Richardson, if you're 20 or 21 years of age and you're trying to play the position in the NFL, it doesn't happen like he just turned 23. You got guys who are 25 coming out of college, 24 coming out of college, and he didn't have that many. Goes back to what I've said before, when an NFL source says to me, we don't want to look at somebody who has 10 starts, 12 starts, 15 starts. Our number is around 25. If you get 30, that's great. Anthony Richardson didn't have, doesn't have a, a large sample size. You got 18 starts, but how many of those was he really the best quarterback on the field the entire time and with potential. I mean, that's a dangerous word. Guys get fired for potential. Hey, we took him. He had great potential. Okay? That's why I want a little bit larger sample size. But he's going to be out for a little while. Finger look nasty. He's only in there for what, six plays?
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Todd
Yeah, Paulie, I did see the pregame and the announcer was saying, well, with Anthony Richardson, the plan ideally would be for him to be more of a drop back guy and run less and expose himself less to hits. But that's what made him great. His running and physicality made him great. Like, like prime Cam Newton. Remember when they said cam, stop running? When Cam stopped running and he relied just on passing, they were less threatening, he was healthier. But they Were less threatening.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah, and that's probably a better comp there. Dante Culpepper was really talented. Obviously, Cam, you know, Cam won an mvp, got to a Super Bowl. But you're seeing these quarterbacks. I never want to take away what is a strength in college. You get to the NFL and they go, well, we're going to make an pocket passer. Michael Vick. No, no, no. I want to put pressure on you. Lamar Jackson, run. I'm okay with it. I want to put pressure on you. Josh Allen, run. I'm okay. You know, be smart when you run. And that's the problem. Like RG3. RG3 had as much talent as anybody who's probably played that position, but he was taking on hits. That's where your ego gets in the way. Don't be afraid to go fetal position. It's like, that's like the. The 12th position on offense, the fetal position. You know, Brady, fetal position. Peyton Manning, fetal position. You get up, you feel a whole lot better than being like, all right, I'm going to take on that guy. Those things hurt. Yeah.
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Todd
Paulie, we've talked about this before. You said for years you wish Josh Allen would run less or run more efficiently, go out of bounds.
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Devin McCourty
I don't want him taking on guys.
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Todd
I don't think he's changing. No, he's not at his rushing stats, and they're consistent. About 110 carries a year.
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Devin McCourty
He's.
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Todd
He's only missed two games in his career due to injury, and before the age of 30, he has 4,200 rushing yards. You start prorating because he's going to play another decade, he'll cruise past guys like Cam Newton just by 500 or 600 a year. He could be a 60,000, 8,000 guy.
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Devin McCourty
He could get 8,000 rushing yards. Well, so 10 to 7.
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Todd
He's got 4,100 yards in seven seasons. He's playing another 10 with the money out there.
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Devin McCourty
And if he runs for, let's say 4,000. So 10 years, 400 yards per year going forward. Is that fair?
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Todd
Yeah. And that would be way less for him than he usually gets in a 17 game season. He averages about 650 yards rushing per season.
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Devin McCourty
He could end up with 9,000 rushing yards.
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Paulie
He.
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Todd
Yes, he should be at that. I'll check the numbers.
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Devin McCourty
I remember 10,000 yards for a running back. You're a hall of Famer. And be certain, guys, they go, he got to 10,000 like Jim Taylor and John Riggins. Hey, you got 10,000, you're a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Paulie. Yeah.
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Todd
Lamar Jackson's at 6100, but he runs way, way more. So Lamar Jackson could take this and run away with it. Michael Vicks at 6100. Cam Newton 5600. Russ Wilson at 5400.
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Devin McCourty
Wait, where's Lamar?
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Todd
Lamar is at 6100.
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Devin McCourty
Oh man, he should be.
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Todd
If he plays eight more years, you would think he'd be flirting with 10,000.
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Devin McCourty
Yards because let's say he plays eight years and he gets 500 yards rushing. So now you got four grand there. He'd be close to 10, 10,000 yards.
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Todd
And he's closer to 800 a season than 500.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah, I'm trying to be, you know, modest with these numbers here because they will slow down. Maybe there's an injury, maybe you're not, you know, playing a full season. But just to think that, you know, quarterbacks who are really good passers as well with good numbers that they could end up with what's Jalen Hurts have.
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Todd
Just going back to Lamar real quick. He had a 1200 yard season, 1000 yard season, 915 last year.
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Noah
Casually Dang.
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Todd
She's checking on her.
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Devin McCourty
Okay, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio appointment.
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Jason McIntyre
Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day.
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Devin McCourty
Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at the.
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Jason McIntyre
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Noah
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Manny
Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
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Jason McIntyre
Attention, passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.
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Manny
Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this. Until this, pull that, turn this. It's just, I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.
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Todd
I'm Noah.
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Paulie
This is Devin.
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Manny
And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.
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Devin McCourty
Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.
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Paulie
They need to recognize that they lack expertise.
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Manny
And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.
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Devin McCourty
See?
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Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Az Fudd
Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as the people's princess. But now you're also gonna know me as your favorite host every week on my new podcast, futaround, and find out. I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all, from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to FUT around and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian Soldiers set out to prove during World War II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Ern Malley. In an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial, the Ern Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzy Logan, and me, Dana Schwartz. Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original fake news. To try and answer why we believe, listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I think he poisoned me. I feel trapped. My breathing changes.
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Devin McCourty
More money, more money, more money.
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Jason McIntyre
And I went white. I realized, wow, like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. New stories, new voices, and shocking manipulations. This didn't just happen to me. It happened to hundreds of other people. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival, of people picking up the pieces and daring to tell the truth.
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Devin McCourty
I'm going to tell my story and.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm going to hold my head up. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Devin McCourty
He's Drew Brees, future hall of Famer, Super Bowl MVP winner. And joining us on behalf of Jimmy Johns and Drew Brees, number nine. Oh, look at all the posters back there. They're all pictures of you.
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Noah
Well, since, since you, since I'm not behind you. You know, amongst some of the, the all time broadcasting greats, I see Bob Costas, I see Al Michaels. You know, I figured I had to kind of create my own setup back here.
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Devin McCourty
Let's go back to your broadcasting career. Looking back on it. No, but I'm, I know you want to do this and you're a competitor and you want to be great. What, what is it that maybe you missed understanding or doing the first go round of your broadcasting career?
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Noah
Well, here's where I kind of chuckled, Dan, because I, I get the perception, I get the feeling that the perception is that somehow, you know, I, I, I failed at being a broadcaster. I got two opportunities to broadcast NFL games and they were like, eight weeks apart. I did. I did one game in New Orleans for Thanksgiving, and I did one playoff game otherwise. I did. I broadcasted Notre Dame football. But really, when I took that job with NBC, the idea was to work with some of the best people in the business. The Mike Tirico, Tony Dungy, Rob Hyland, like Fred Gudelli, all the guys that are legendary guys in that organization. And, man, I'm so thankful that I had that opportunity. But at the same time, what. What I really did, for the most part, was sit behind a desk and do Sunday Night Football. The Sunday Night Football. Football night in America. And then, you know, a bunch of stuff in stadium at the desk, and then the super bowl broadcast, but again at the desk. So at the end of the day, like, I. I chuckle because even as I look at the landscape right now, man, I have so much respect for a lot of guys in the booth right now, but I'd step in the booth right now and be a top three guy, like, without question. And then you give me a few years, and I could be the best. So, look, I love the game. I love talking about the game. I feel like I have an insight to the game that is pretty unique given my playing experience. I see the game a totally different way. I process it a different way. And so even as I watch games now and I just kind of listen to the commentary and this and that and what I'm seeing, I just feel like there's so much more to add. And so, look, at the end of the day, I'm going to wait for the right opportunity, and, you know, hopefully it comes along. And if it doesn't, that's okay, too, because I'm coaching ball and I'm involved in the game in so many other ways. But I do feel like I have a ton of value to add in the booth. And so I'm appreciative of Netflix giving me the opportunity to broadcast on Christmas Day. And I'm not sure exactly which game that's going to be. There's two on the slate, but that'll be a lot of fun.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah, but it'd be like asking you to start a game maybe in the preseason, and start a game, you know, late in a season and say you weren't consistent. It's. You need. You need repetition in this. You got to be there week in and week out.
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Noah
Yeah, absolutely. You know, and so that. It's. It's. I think the unfortunate part about just that year was that the thing I wanted to do Most was broadcast NFL games. The thing I had the opportunity to do the least was broadcast NFL games. Now I had a chance to do everything right. I was in studio. I was at the stadium, the super bowl, pregame. I broadcast a little college. I broadcasted a little NFL. So I got exposure to everything. And, man, I retained it all, like, every bit of coaching from all those guys. And I'm very appreciative of that. But, you know, when. When I. When I departed, I departed because I wanted to. I wanted to spend more time with my kids on the weekends, coaching ball. And unfortunately, that was. The schedule didn't work out, having to fly to Connecticut, you know, every. Every week, and also doing the Notre Dame games. So it was my decision to step away from NBC. It was not theirs. They wanted me back. And again, I felt like I. I had a great relationship with them during that time. Unfortunately, I think it got reported a little bit differently, and now somehow that's become the narrative. It could not be further from the truth. You can go talk to Pete Bavakwa, who is the head of NBC Sports. You can go talk to Sam Flood. You can go talk to any of those guys. Mike Tirico, Rob Hyland. Man, I had a great relationship with those guys, and they wanted me back. Unfortunately, the schedule just didn't work, given the fact that I wasn't really able to do what I wanted to do, which is broadcast NFL games.
- [29:18]
Devin McCourty
Is there a statue of you in New Orleans?
- [29:21]
Noah
No, there's not.
- [29:23]
Devin McCourty
Would you like to have a statue of you in New Orleans?
- [29:26]
Noah
I don't need a statue. You know what? There's a statue of Steve Gleason, and that's one of my favorites.
- [29:32]
Devin McCourty
Well, I. And I'm being serious. I know you're being modest here, but when you think about an athlete and what he meant to a city, I don't know if there's another athlete who meant more to a city than you did or do to New Orleans.
- [29:50]
Noah
Look, I think all of us, if you go back to, you know, that time, 2006, Sean Payton comes in as the head coach. I mean, literally, his first free agent signing was Scott Fujita, right, who was a mainstay on our defense, who was one of my good, good friends, like, and then just all the little pieces that came together in 06, 07, 08, which culminated to our Super bowl victory in 09, and then really just incredible run throughout our 15 years there. There were so many people that were part of that. So it's not. I mean, even as you would sit here and say, hey, maybe Sean Payton and I get a lot of the credit. At the end of the day, I think we. We just take pride in the fact that we had a chance to be a part of something really, really special, really unique, probably unprecedented from the perspective of what happened to the city where the team was as far as just the organization and just the perception that people had of. Of the Saints. And then all of a sudden being able to come together and create what was, you know, one of the. One of the greatest runs, I think, in certainly NFL history, professional sports history. And I think the reputation now of what a team means to a city and really the standard of what a team can mean to a city, I feel like the New Orleans Saints represent that as well as anyone.
- [31:06]
Devin McCourty
And I would have the statue of you to be the actual size to scale. I would have it being six feet. So people can say, wow, he did it at that height. I'm his height, or I'm taller than him. I don't want it to be seven feet tall. I want it to be six feet. Maybe you think you're six one, but maybe it's six feet. Can you be too short to play quarterback in the NFL? No.
- [31:31]
Noah
But here's the thing. If you go back to that, you need the perspective of having the lineman in front, you know, so it's like. It's like one of those. It's like one of those statues where you've got like, you know, it's like the cavalry, you know, and you got the big horses in front, you know, like, that's what you need for the perspective.
- [31:45]
Devin McCourty
So you're going to be hidden behind your offense.
- [31:47]
Noah
Yeah, you need like the 6 foot 6 light in front of you. I can't see through these guys. No, I. Look, I don't think you can be too short. Look, there's that. There's that prototype size that maybe we all have in our mind for each position. In fact, I'm sure there's a lot of scouts that made a great living, you know, through the years with just having that. That mold or that model for each position. I know that Sean Payton had a little bit of that because he got it from Parcells. Like, I would. I would. I was in these discussions all the time as to what certain positions were supposed to look like. Apparently, the only one that. That could have quite a bit of variation was the running back position. He's like, they parcels. You say they all. They come in all shapes and sizes. They just need to have A big lower half, right. Otherwise they're, they're, they're going to constantly be in the shop, so to speak, they're going to be injured. So I mean, like the Darren sprols is right, 5 foot 7, you know, 180 pounds. But, but was one of the most dynamic players in the history in the NFL. I think from a quarterback perspective, keep in mind too, not only was I short, but I came in the league behind a guy named Doug Flutie, who in my opinion is one of the greatest quarterbacks in all of professional football. And obviously he played every, every level of it from the USFL to the CFL to the NFL. But he was doing things that were ahead of his time and I don't think he gets the appreciation for it. He was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. Everything you see Mahomes do, I saw Flutie do every day in practice. From the no look throws to the back shoulder throws to just like manipulating defenders with his eyes, buying time. Like he just had such an incredible feel for the game. And a lot of the things he did, he did out of survival. Right. Like you think about it, I think some of the greatest innovations in history is because, hey, there was a problem that needed to be solved or you had a limitation that you had to overcome in some way with some other sort of talent. And so like, truly he did things out of survival. Like he would have been able to play the position if he wasn't able to do these things. But I had a front row seat to this for, for four years with the San Diego Chargers and some as his backup, and then in other cases he is my backup. But nonetheless, he was an incredible mentor for me and I learned so much from him. And so therefore I would say he played the game at five, nine and a half or whatever Doug was. I, I don't think that's, I don't think that's a limitation.
- [34:15]
Devin McCourty
We're talking to Drew Brees, the future hall of Famer, super bowl mvp. What are you doing with Jimmy John's?
- [34:21]
Noah
So. Well, first off, I, so I've been a fan of Jimmy John since 1997, my freshman year at Purdue University. I showed up to Wiley hall my freshman year and you're staying up late studying, right, Dan? And three o' clock in the morning you're starving and the only place open is Jimmy John's. So you dial up Jimmy John's and literally 15 minutes later you got some dude rolling up on a bike to hand you a Jimmy John's Sandwich, it's like the greatest bite of fruit in the world. So literally that was like what I lived on three days a week in, in college. So I've had a relationship with Jimmy John's for a long time. I'm, I've been a Jimmy John's franchisee here in New Orleans. We built out this market about 15 years ago. So I've always loved the brand and it's been a great partnership, but they're supporting our foundation. So actually for the entire month of August, all the way to August 31st, you can walk into a Jimmy John's and just order my favorite sandwich and they named it after me this month. So you just say, hey, I want the breeze number nine. And basically that's going to be ham, capicola, salami. It's the Italian nightclub. All those lettuce, tomato, onions. You get the oil and vinegar, salt, pepper, the basil, oregano mix, but it's no cheese. Add hot peppers. That's the little, you know, the little extra that we throw in this to make it the breeze number nine. And not just the number nine. So with, and all the proceeds are going to the Breeze Dream foundation and boys and girls clubs around the country. So appreciate that. With Jimmy John's, how do you know.
- [35:38]
Devin McCourty
What to look for or should we know what to look for with rookie quarterbacks in preseason?
- [35:45]
Noah
Well, first thing I say is experience. Just, just take, obviously a ton of QBs have been drafted here over the last three years, you know, in the first round, so, or four years. So first and foremost, how many games, how many high level starts do they have in college? And I think that makes a huge difference. I think if you just start looking at, hey, the guys that had 4,050, even six Boneck 61 starts in college, those guys come into the league a lot more well prepared than the guys who, man, there's a ton of talent, a ton of upside, a ton of potential. Started 15 games, started 17 games. There's just, you just need, I think 40 to 50 high level starts before you really kind of find that, that, that comfort level. And so if you do take a guy like that, then it's going to take two or three years. Obviously the, the team that you're a part of, the system that you're in, that has, that has, that plays a big role in it. But I think first and foremost you have to look at experience and then how are you building the system around him? What type of, what type of Runway does he have in order to, to grow and develop you know, I think you look at the guys probably who had the most success last year. Jaden Daniels, Bo Nicks, right? So those two examples, Jane Daniels, bunch of starts at Arizona State, comes to lsu, a bunch of high level starts there. He comes to the league, I think, very well prepared. Bone Nick, 61, starts right between Auburn and Oregon, comes in fairly well prepared. So I think that's a big, that's a big factor.
- [37:15]
Devin McCourty
I'm wondering how we're going to look at quarterbacks in the future because Lamar Jackson could end up with 10,000 rushing yards, which is unheard of. I mean, for a running back, 10,000 yards is a great career. Josh Allen, it could end up with 8,000 yards rushing. You look at the number of touchdowns, Josh Allen's going to end up with more rushing touchdowns than any other quarterback in history. He'll move past Cam Newton. So I don't know how we. Everybody's throwing for a lot of yards. But now you have this other category in here. How will we differentiate or assess quarterbacks? You know, bigger picture, hall of Fame wise, when you're adding something that we really haven't seen, the. Michael Vic gave us this Steve Young a little bit. Cam Newton gave us. Now it feels like, as Steve Young told me many times, there's yards to get, go get them. If you're a quarterback, look it, it's.
- [38:08]
Noah
A, it's a great point. It's a great point because I think when you start talking about QVs in history and the comparisons, you immediately go to the passing statistics. And obviously in today's game, it's so much more than that. At the end of the day, what's your job? Your job is to go put your team in the end zone. And so however you can do that, it doesn't matter whether it's through the air or on the ground. I think that Steve Young quote is a great one. There's yards to get, you know, go get them. There's first downs to get, go get them. So however you can do that. That's why the whole QE rating thing is always so wonky, right? Because it's like, well, how are we really evaluating the efficiency or the productivity of a quarterback when you have all these different layers to it? I mean, you should have somebody sitting there going, man, he threw the ball away. That was actually an incredible decision. That shouldn't work against him on the QB rating, right? So like you, you have all these factors and at the end of the day, did you, did you possess the ball? Did you get first downs and push team in the end zone. Did you score points? Did, was that complimentary to your defense? Did that get you the win? I mean that's, that's, that's truly how you should be evaluated.
- [39:11]
Devin McCourty
Well, also when you don't take a sack, I mean that's like, there's little things. I agree. QBr, to me, I, I don't like it. I want to know if you won the game. It's the most important thing. Yeah, but they don't have a category.
- [39:27]
Noah
Yeah, yeah, look, I, I think you actually brought up a good point. I think one of the greatest traits of a quarterback that is, is, is never discussed, especially in the evaluation of it, is their ability to avoid sacks and avoid negative plays. That, that when you just look, start looking at the probabilities and the percentages of success on, you know, third and six versus third and 10. And just like your ability to avoid negative plays and a lot of times too, that could just be, hey, I have a decision when I walk up the line of scrimmage to run the ball right, run the ball left, run it inside or run it outside. And the decision that you make in large part could be the difference between a two or three yard gain or a one yard loss. And so there's so many of these decisions that are made within the framework of a game where If I'm evaluating QBs and I'm sitting there watching the tape, I want to know what type of decision maker they are. Because if they are making more good decisions, then good results will follow. There's a lot of things that we can fix fundamentally and whatever, hey, you missed a throw but you threw it to the right place and you're on time, that's fine, we can fix that. Right? But if you have a great decision making process and you are consistently making good decisions and you're avoiding sacks and you're putting yourself in favorable positions, meaning high probability for success positions, then you're going to win a ton of games. And I think when you really start to break it down, that's what you're looking for.
- [40:48]
Devin McCourty
Great to catch up with you again. Hope the family's well and good luck with Jimmy Johns and Boys and Girls Clubs of America.
- [40:55]
Noah
Thank you. Dp.
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Devin McCourty
That's future hall of Famer there. Drew Brees, his longest run, 23 yards. He ran for 700 yards in his career. That's, that's Lamar. That's a down year for Lamar running. But he wasn't paid. Right, but you weren't paid to run you weren't paid to run. You. You could have been elusive. Right?
- [41:19]
Noah
Hey, move the chains. Get your team.
- [41:21]
Devin McCourty
Okay.
- [41:22]
Noah
I'd much rather throw it to the guys.
- [41:26]
Devin McCourty
Could you outrun Peyton Manning?
- [41:28]
Noah
Absolutely. Smoking. Crush him.
- [41:31]
Devin McCourty
Could you outrun Tom Brady?
- [41:33]
Noah
He's all torso.
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Paulie
Oh, Brady.
- [41:36]
Devin McCourty
Yeah.
- [41:37]
Noah
Brady would be at the 25 yard line when I crossed the 40.
- [41:41]
Devin McCourty
Wow. How would you do against Lamar Jackson?
- [41:45]
Noah
No, he would be at the 40.
- [41:51]
Devin McCourty
You're still competitive. Thank you, buddy. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Manny
Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
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Jason McIntyre
Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.
- [43:17]
Manny
Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this, pull that, turn this. It's just I do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.
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Todd
I'm Noah.
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Paulie
This is Devin.
- [43:33]
Manny
And on our new show, no such thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on over confidence.
- [43:42]
Devin McCourty
Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.
- [43:45]
Paulie
They need to recognize that they lack expertise.
- [43:49]
Manny
And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.
- [43:56]
Noah
See?
- [43:56]
Manny
Listen to no such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Az Fudd
Hey guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know a people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find Out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all, from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture basketball and what it's like to to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really Fudd around and find out. Listen to Fudd around and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
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Devin McCourty
More money, more money, more money.
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Jason McIntyre
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- [46:59]
Todd
I'm going to tell my story and.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm going to hold my head up. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:13]
Devin McCourty
Devin McCourty, Football Night in America analyst, three time Super bowl champ with the Patriots and he is in Foxborough and Tom Brady is getting a statue. It's going to be 12ft. Why does Brady need a 12 foot statue? Devin, He's Tom Brady.
- [47:31]
Paulie
Like why not.
- [47:34]
Devin McCourty
Does. Do you think Tom had statue approval?
- [47:39]
Paulie
So what I heard from being up here, he has not seen it. I think Mr. Kraft has seen it, but Tom has not seen it. So. But I was told he'll like it. It looks like him.
- [47:50]
Devin McCourty
So we'll see 12ft, 12 foot statue of Tom Brady. Does anybody else get, Anybody else get. Is Belichick getting a statue?
- [48:00]
Paulie
Not right now, but I gotta imagine sometime down the line he's gotta have a statue somewhere over here at Gillette Stadium.
- [48:08]
Devin McCourty
When you went home, would your wife ask you more about Tom Brady or Bill Belichick? As far as it those two, those two individuals?
- [48:17]
Paulie
My wife would probably ask about Tom, but it would only be to get to back in the day, ask about Giselle. That's all she said.
- [48:27]
Devin McCourty
How intense is preseason as far as if you're a starter, like how do you, if I'm looking at how you're approaching that as a regular season game, how can you approach it or have to approach it the same way?
- [48:42]
Paulie
I think a veteran approaches it in the same way while still knowing you're not going to play the whole game. But I think it's always those little things you want to work on coming into the season. Whatever happened the past season, things you felt like you needed to get better at, the preseason games are the time to showcase it. Yeah, you can do it in practice. I think it heightens a little bit in a joint practice where you can actually execute those things. But until you do some things you want to work on in a game setting, you don't really build that true confidence. So I think guys knowing you might get 10 to 30 plays, whatever that is, you know, you have a limited amount of time to kind of execute some of those things you want to get better at.
- [49:23]
Devin McCourty
Felt like the Patriots use the first couple of regular season games as their true preseason. Why is that?
- [49:30]
Paulie
We always talked about that, that the first call it month of the regular season was an extension of the preseason, and that was strictly because we still needed to improve. And like I said, until you get in all those games, what's the best group of five linemen? What's the best group of four secondary players? Like, we were still always figuring that out. And it was sometimes guys not playing the whole game. It was guys getting in there. Just so I think the coaches could evaluate what was the best group out there, who was the best player. Some training camp battles were close. How do you make the exact decision Right now? We're still evaluating through that first month of the season. And then once we got to October, it was like, okay, this is our team. Are we good? Do we need to add? Do we need to go for in a trade market? Like, how do we need to operate? And I think that's how Belichick and that staff always kind of helped us progress and get better. So we were playing our best football after Thanksgiving.
- [50:28]
Devin McCourty
There's certain players who play better in practice than in games, and vice versa. Who was the guy on your team that once you saw him in a game, you're like, damn, I didn't see that in practice.
- [50:39]
Paulie
You know who was like that? Jimmy G. 2016, Tom gets suspended and we're going to start, and Jimmy's going to start. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to start those first four games. And if we're being honest, like training camp practice, it never kind of felt like, okay, here we go, like, we're going to be good. It was like, all right, defensively, we're going to need to do X, Y and Z. And then we got out there open in Arizona, and Arizona was coming off a great season the year before, and Jimmy went out there, played his butt off. And then week two against Miami, he gets hurt. But the first half, I think he threw for three or four touchdowns. He. We always used to say Jimmy was a gamer. His best football happened in the games. And it was pretty cool to see.
- [51:24]
Noah
That because you don't.
- [51:25]
Paulie
You don't always get that from the quarterback position. Usually what you see in practice shows up in the game.
- [51:31]
Devin McCourty
Devin McCourty, a Football Night in America analyst and won three Super Bowls with the Patriots, three time All Pro. What do you assess with rookie quarterbacks now that you've played the position? But now as an analyst, what should we be looking for, let's say Shador Sanders tonight against Carolina.
- [51:49]
Paulie
I think one of the biggest things is what does his command of the offense looks like? Does he look like he's in control. Is he up there making some checks or making some alerts? And then the execution. It's obviously preseason. Game 1 is going to be a lot of, I would say, simple plays that they've been running in practice. But the truth is, when you know you're a 5th round draft pick and you go on again, you probably don't get all of the reps in practice. You don't get a ton. So how much were you able to pick up without getting those reps? And then is it smooth? Are we able to get quarterback, center, exchange, get us in and out of the huddle, execute simple plays, throw quick passes, get the ball out of your hands. Belichick used to say it all the time. Our play, our best plays don't start until the quarterback gets the ball out of their hands. And whether it's a handoff, whether it's throwing the ball, so those are the things you want to see. And then I would say in today's game, is he able to make some of those off schedule plays? The play breaks down, does he have one, two or three of those plays where you're like, man, that's a heck of a play by him making a play extend and making the right play at the end.
- [52:53]
Devin McCourty
What's it like when your huddle breaks and then Peyton Manning comes up to the line of scrimmage? I don't know who else talked a lot, but you're hearing and he's gesturing and then what is your job as a defensive back? To interpret what he's saying or not saying?
- [53:11]
Paulie
Yeah, I remember it's a different feeling when I first got out there as a rookie and you're out there with Peyton and he's doing all that talking. I was getting nervous when I was a rookie, like, is he coming this way? What is he checking? What does he see? And then as a veteran, it turns into a mind game. It's like, okay, we know what we're in, so we know he knows that. So how can we give him a different picture and then get to something else? And for us, it was always cool because we got that same, same type of work and practice with Brady. We knew we couldn't just give him the answers to the test right away. So it was, you know, I think the coolest thing as a defender playing against whether it was Peyton or Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers was you knew they knew what you were in. So you had to kind of play the mind game of, okay, where should they go with the ball? I got to be ready for that. And that's how we tried to play from a defensive standpoint, and I think you're starting to see that. And today's games, when you go against the Josh Allens, the Joe Burrows, the Patrick Mahomes, the Lamar Jackson, those guys are figuring out what other defenses are in, and they're playing, too, and it's fun to watch.
- [54:16]
Devin McCourty
What advice would you give Travis Hunter of trying to play both sides?
- [54:22]
Paulie
I don't know. Advice I would give him to say to go do it. I think ultimately he'll see that it's going to be more productive to be great at one of those positions than it is to kind of strain yourself to be doing back and forth. And I think the truth is, if he does, you know, find a way to play both positions at a high frequency, I think it will make him. I think he'll be a good player on both sides, but I think if he focuses on one, he has a chance to be a great player at either position. Honestly, like, you watch his skill set, he can do both. But I just. My advice would be, I think it's going to be really difficult, and I don't think there's enough upside to play on both sides of the ball for him.
- [55:03]
Devin McCourty
Did you ever give Belichick fake laughter? Because some of your teammates, they would say, oh, man, he's funny. You should get to know him. He's really funny. But did you feel like you kind of had to laugh sometimes when he wasn't really that funny? Not.
- [55:18]
Paulie
Not really, because, like, behind closed doors, no cameras, like, we got the uncensored Belichick, so the trash he would talk, like, there, there was a certain kind of swag to him that I don't think people see. But when we get in that meeting room and he's talking to his guys.
- [55:34]
Devin McCourty
Well, give me, give me an example here. Can you. Can give me a family version?
- [55:40]
Paulie
Yeah, I mean, I always laugh. We were. We were in Buffalo in 2018, and they were doing a kind of tribute to a lot of those guys in the 90s that were on those teams that went to four straight Super Bowls. And, like, there was a stage out there, it was a Monday night game stage and everything. And it kind of delayed us coming out of the second half. And we come out and we're walking together and he's like, I mean, we're out here, we're celebrating four straight trips and no actual super bowl wins. Like, like, what.
- [56:11]
Noah
What are we.
- [56:11]
Paulie
What are we doing here? And a little bit of. I Think he was pissed because we're ready to get the second half going. But, like, there was no fake laugh. Like, I died laughing because it was just, yeah, of course, Bill. You got all of the Super Bowls. But to me, it was that competitiveness that he didn't always talk about. You didn't actually see it, but, like, he. Like, he's competitive. He wants to be the best. He wants to win those championships. He just doesn't talk about it. And that, to me, was, you know, he was somewhere in the 90s not getting to those games. So he's probably still pissed about that.
- [56:43]
Noah
And holding that shit.
- [56:44]
Paulie
So that's what I've always loved about him.
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Devin McCourty
Yeah. And I think what happens sometimes is when the coach makes fun of or picks on singles out one of the stars, that helps with the rest of the team going, damn, he's. He's going after Brady right now.
- [57:01]
Paulie
Oh, there's no doubt about it. And even from an opponent standpoint, I remember Vince Wilford used to always tell Bill, like, when you come in our meeting rooms, because Bill always used to build up every team. No matter who we were playing that Wednesday meeting, we would watch a highlight tape, and you would think, like, we were playing Greek Gods on Sunday. Sunday. And then every once in a while, he would come in and he would just tell us, like, we're gonna kill this team. We're gonna destroy him. And you see Vince Wilfort with, like, it would get him going. And he would always tell Bill, like, just come in and tell us that we're going to destroy the team. I think it gives guys energy. And it's true, like, when you see that. And again, I always credit Tom because star players don't have to be coachable, and it's the right thing to do. But in the NFL or any professional sport, it doesn't always happen. And I always said that. When I got there as a rookie, I saw Bill coaching the heck out of Tom and going after him, and it set the tone. Like, it scared me to want to mess up. And we knew and every player operated knowing that the best player got coach hard. That mean the rest of us were going to get coach, and it made us all better. And, you know, Tom could have been like, I don't want to be a part of this. I want to leave and go elsewhere. But he took the coach and he got better, and it held all of us to a certain standard that we had to reach.
- [58:16]
Devin McCourty
Bengals are playing their starters more in the preseason because they get off to a poor start. In the last couple of years. Why are they doing this? Why didn't they do this before? And do you think it'll help?
- [58:30]
Paulie
I do think it'll help. I think it'll change the mentality. Does the 20 snaps you play maybe in two preseason games is going to dictate how you're going to play the season? Probably not from a skill standpoint in X's and O, but I think it changes the mentality of every time we step on the field. It's important. This is what we're saying. We're saying we have to get better as a football team by playing football. So we're going to get better in preseason game one, we're going to get better in preseason game two. Then in the regular season, we're going to keep getting better. Whereas I think before it was kind of like, well, these games aren't important. We don't need to do it. And then you get out there and sometimes you play teams like the Kansas City Chiefs who go out there and play in the preseason, they hit the ground running, so you're like, okay, we'll catch up to them. But they're starting ahead, and then now you always start behind. So I credit Zach Taylor for saying, you know what? What we've been doing isn't working. I'm not going to be arrogant and prideful and say, you know what? This is my method and I'm sticking to it. No, you know what? I. It's not working. We're not getting up to the start we want. Let's go play. Let's get better. And it looked good last night, that's for sure.
- [59:39]
Devin McCourty
It'll be Washington at New England tonight, the unveiling of the Tom Brady statute. Do you think you'll cry tonight, Devin?
- [59:47]
Paulie
Absolutely not. But one of my sons is coming up. My nephew's coming up, so they might shed a tear.
- [59:53]
Devin McCourty
They're.
- [59:53]
Paulie
They're big Tom Brady fans. Actually bigger Tom Brady fans than they were of their dad and uncle. So they'll be really happy to be here today.
- [60:01]
Devin McCourty
Would your wife cry at the trophy ceremony?
- [60:05]
Paulie
Not if she wants to still be married. She better not.
- [60:10]
Devin McCourty
Have fun. And, you know, there's Brady still feels like he can play.
- [60:16]
Paulie
Why he still throws. So, like, you go and put him behind one of the best offensive lines and keep a clean pocket. I still think he'd go out there and give you 40 to 45 passes.
- [60:25]
Devin McCourty
A game if he played for the Eagles. Right now.
- [60:30]
Paulie
I'm biased if Tom Brady plays for one of the best Teams get Super bowl time. And I'm. Hey, and if he does do it, Howie Roseman, give me a call. I'll take another trip to the Super Bowl.
- [60:40]
Devin McCourty
You're ready to play too. You'll go with Tom.
- [60:43]
Paulie
I'm ready. I'll go in there. In the red zone only.
- [60:46]
Devin McCourty
Thank you. We appreciate your time, Devin. Have fun tonight.
- [60:49]
Paulie
No problem. Appreciate it, man.
- [60:50]
Devin McCourty
That's Devin McCourty.
- [60:52]
Manny
Why are TSA rules so. So confusing?
- [60:54]
Noah
You got a hoodie on. Take it all.
- [60:56]
Manny
I'm Manny. I'm Noah.
- [60:58]
Noah
This is Devin.
- [60:59]
Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming at I can't expect what to do now? If the rule was the same, go off on me.
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Devin McCourty
I deserve it, you know?
- [61:12]
Noah
Lock him up.
- [61:13]
Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Devin McCourty
Those poor such thing.
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