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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
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Mike Florio
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Dan Patrick
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Noah de Barrasso
I'm Noah and I'm 13 and I started this podcast because, honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you Know with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news, it's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de arrasto on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you your podcast. Summer's here and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle on Good Moms Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her, make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything to hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I spent my career creating journalism that centers voices who have been historically sidelined. From the most pressing news stories to deep cultural explorations, Latino USA is journalism with heart. Listen to Latino usa, the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States. Hear it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green money is tapping in.
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Chase Daniel
I'm Will Lucas spotlighting black founders, investors.
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Dan Patrick
And innovators building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy tech and Generational wealth.
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Noah de Barrasso
I had the skill and I had the talent. I didn't have the opportunity. Yeah, we all know, right?
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Dan Patrick
Genius is evenly distributed.
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Noah de Barrasso
Opportunity is not.
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Chase Daniel
To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to black tech, Green money from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio.
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Dan Patrick
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's bring in Mike Florio, the popular host of Pro Football Talk Lot. Let me start there, Mike. Whose career do you want, Joe Flacco or do you want Philip Rivers?
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Mike Florio
Probably Flacco, because it's the ultimate team sport. You want to win a Super Bowl. He won a Super Bowl. He was twice the highest paid player in all of football. And I love the fact, Dan, when you think about true franchise quarterbacks, guys who were once paid more than anyone else in the sport, for him to be willing to humble himself and be a backup for years and just keep playing, keep going. How many guys do that? Could you imagine Peyton Manning holding a clipboard once his starting days ended? It really is refreshing to see a guy who loves the sport so much. He hangs around, he gets his chance. And off of Paulie's point about the Pro bowl, my favorite fact about the current Cleveland Browns roster. At quarterback, they have six guys and one Pro Bowler, Tyler Huntley. The other five, no Pro Bowls.
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Dan Patrick
Mike's latest novel, Big Shield, debuts today on Amazon, a tale of gambling, the mob and pro football. But for legal reasons, it's definitely not about the NFL.
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Mike Florio
I can't stop you. You know, there's a franchise in Vegas, there's a franchise in Baltimore, there's a franchise in Minnesota. I can't stop the reader from envisioning the colors and the logos and the name. But for legal reasons, I just go with Vegas, Baltimore, Minnesota. They can't copyright city and state names.
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Dan Patrick
Do you expect to hear from the NFL?
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Mike Florio
No, I think they'll ignore the book. I think it will bother them enough that they'll ignore it, that that'll be the strategy. However, they should like it because, Dan, it's a cautionary tale about what can happen with inside information. There's so much inside information out there. Who's really injured, who's not, what's the game plan, who's going to get the ball, all sorts of things before games and during games. I know they're concerned about guys on the sidelines giving signals to people who would lock in micro bets for runner pass. Coincidentally, that's what happens in this book, that's the premise. A backup quarterback for the Vegas franchise of a fictional pro football league gets tied in with a mobster. And it all kind of goes from there, where this relationship has ups and downs and twists and turns, and 400 pages later, you get a resolution.
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Dan Patrick
It's called Big Shield. Now the NFL is called the Shield, Mike.
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Mike Florio
Well, that's right. And I loosely refer to the NFL as Big Shield. So it's all part of the game. Look, I want. Did you see the Billy Joel documentary? The best thing that ever happened to him was the Catholic Church banning Only the Good Die Young. He sent them a note saying, will you please ban my other songs? When people feel like they're not supposed to read or watch or listen to something, it makes them want it even more.
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Dan Patrick
Do you want the NFL to sue you?
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Mike Florio
Oh, they won't sue me. No, Dan, they won't. They won't sue me because nothing in here infringes on any of their copyrights, and it's a pure work of fiction. There's nothing in there that libels anyone. All the characters are made up. The whole thing is completely made up. The only issue would be copyrights. I don't use NFL. I don't use team names. I'm. I'm. I'm safe there. Now, if they would want to sue me, if it would help book sales, then, you know, I would. I would deal with that. But they won't. They'll ignore it. Like they remember the film Concussion. They were scared to death of that movie, and their strategy was to ignore it. And they did, and it worked. It didn't really move the needle.
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Dan Patrick
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole smelling salts. We know it's supposed to mask a concussion, right? Why are they allowing you to still bring in something? It's bring your own smelling salts meant to mask concussions. Shouldn't you make that illegal so we can detect if you have a concussion?
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Mike Florio
This is one of the realities of collective bargaining, and collective bargaining can be very good. But it also can become ridiculous, because if the league were to go to the players and say, we want a complete and total ban on smelling salts, the players would be inclined to say, what's in it for us? If you want the ban, we're going to say we don't. So we can get something from you to give you what you want. And it works both ways. Look, marijuana legal in most of the states now where the NFL does business. Why don't we just get Rid of it? Well, it's a, it's a collective bargaining issue. So what's in it for us? This is the NFL. What's in it for us if we agree to get rid of it? So it's ludicrous. When the union sent out to the players, oh, hey, you can still bring your own. It's like, wait a minute, is this really a good idea? Should they be having these things around? Should they be using these things? Yeah, the whole thing's ridiculous. And the sooner those things are off the sideline, the better off everyone will be.
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Dan Patrick
This garnered a lot of headlines, but we know why. It's Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel saying that basically there's entertainers and then he's a competitor and people thought he's referencing Shador Sanders. Did you hear it that way? That he was referencing people in the media and not Shador Sanders?
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Mike Florio
Well, I think it's reasonable to look at those comments and consider the context and come to the conclusion that he was making a comment about Shadur Sanders. I think that's not an unreasonable reaction. And that's what happens when you put your words out there into the public space for consumption. People are going to come to whatever conclusions they want. I didn't take it that way, but I could see somebody looking at that and thinking, oh, he's taking a little bit of a shot there. At the end of the day, he is a competitor. I mean, he walked through the door with the mindset he's going to be the starter. He's become the starter everywhere he's been. The Browns quarterback depth chart is fascinating, Dan. And they're a week away from having to decide how many of these guys are they going to have on the 53 man roster. I think Kenny Pickett's going to be the odd man out. I think it's going to be Flacco and the two Rickies rookies competing and or entertaining all of us. Throughout the course of the 2025 season.
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Dan Patrick
We spent a good portion of the first hour talking about how bad the commander's uniforms look. According to Paulie, he thinks they're the worst uniforms in the NFL. Then he gave me his bottom five in there. I'll ask you, where do you sit on the commander's uniforms? Home uniforms?
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Mike Florio
I don't think they're that bad. No, there are worse. The Dolphins, I think are the worst. The Dolphins base uniforms are horrible. They should make their throwbacks their full time uniforms. I mean, they're worried about the perception that they're Soft. Those uniforms scream soft, right? You see the throwbacks. The throwbacks are badass. Like if you want to. And. And you ask any NFL player how you look is how you feel. The projection, the. The image, everything, the toughness, it all oozes from how you look. So I think the commanders are fine. The Dolphins. The Dolphins are horrible. And don't get me started on the Nike vacation of the NFL with all the alternate. Look, I will gladly say, get off my lawn. I want to be able to turn on an NFL game and know right away who's playing. I don't want to have to sift through throwbacks and alternate uniforms at what are they wearing this week? That drives me crazy. And it's all Nike's fault.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk Live. You can see that show at precedes hours on Peacock. He also contributes to NBC Football Night in America. I'm trying to figure out what's going on with the Rams with Matthew Stafford, because every time Sean McVeigh gets in front of the media, he says the same thing but uses different words. Here is Sean McVeigh talking about Matthew Stafford. It was good to be able to.
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Noah de Barrasso
Have Matthew out there.
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Chase Daniel
He did a good job today. I thought he looked good, but, you.
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McLean Way
Know, I don't really have any updates.
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Chase Daniel
You know, I think there was a lot of intended information, but there's no updates. We're going to keep it a day and really a week at a time, but, you know, we'll see how this afternoon goes and tomorrow.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, Mike, what's going on here?
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Mike Florio
The key is when he says a week at a time. They're still concerned that this back problem isn't resolved. The goal was to give him a long Runway between when he had the epidural in June and when he started throwing and practicing. And the idea was when he comes back, he's fine. It's not an issue. It's over. It's. It's calmed down. He can go play 17 games without it acting up. That didn't fly. He threw 68 passes on Saturday. Last he was supposed to practice the following Monday. And all of a sudden he doesn't. And for Matthew Stafford, that's a big deal because this guy's tough as nails. He's John Wayne. He's going to fight through anything, any pain, any discomfort. He doesn't care. And so the fact that he practiced yesterday, it's all very tentative. He said Stafford, I mean McVeigh, excuse me, said, we'll see how the afternoon goes. Like they're constantly going to be watching him. How's he reacting to every workout, every practice, every game, every throw. And I think this is going to hover over them into the regular season and then he's going to start getting hit during games. It's not going to get any better. So I think they need to feel very good about their backups. It's Jimmy Garoppolo and Stetson Bennett. And we may see Garoppolo play at some point in the regular season because this just doesn't feel like it's sustainable for 17 regular season games.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I thought the tell was that Garoppolo didn't play at all this last game, that Stetson Bennett played every single play. As if Sean McVeigh is saying, I can't have you out there and risk you getting injured when I have Matthew Stafford who might not be ready to go. So they sent Stetson Bennett out there to throw 40 passes.
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Mike Florio
They went through this last year. They had to be sure Stetson Bennett was ready to back up Matthew Stafford for the first two games of the season because Garoppolo was suspended. So they had to trust Bennett and they have to have Bennett ready in the event that he's the number two to Garoppolo. And I think they'll keep Garoppolo in bubble wrap in the event that they've got to play him week one. It'll probably be Stetson Bennett and Dresser win this weekend in the preseason finale and they just got to hope for the best. I mean, Stafford is one of the toughest guys that I've seen in years in the NFL and he doesn't complain. I think he's had injuries nobody knows about, not even his wife. He just shuts up and he goes, but this is one. I mean, back issues. I mean, once that thing grabs you, it changes you and it's not easy. And I don't know how many, I don't know how many tore at all shots you can take to overcome it, but I think it's just going to be a day to day, week to week thing. And right now I, I don't feel confident one way or the other he's going to be good to go week one. I don't think anybody knows if he's going to be good to go week one.
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Dan Patrick
Who's more hall of Famey? We had this two weeks ago. Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson Jr. III?
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Mike Florio
Oh, oh, without question. Stafford. Without question. I mean, Wilson has, has slipped the past few years. And I remember when Eli Manning was in the final years of his career. Shereen Williams, who works with as a PFT and is one of the hall of Fame voters, she expressed the concern to me that if, if Eli hangs around like this, he's going to undermine his case. Russell Wilson has undermined his case the past few years. Remember Kurt Warner had that and then he sprang back to the super bowl with the Cardinals. I mean, Russell Wilson is going to make it harder for him to get in the longer he plays. And he's a shadow of what he was when he was at his best. I think Stafford is that guy. His numbers are incredible. He's higher and higher on the all time list and he's just kind of, I think it's because of his time in Detroit, Dan. We just never really noticed him, but he's been one of the greats and he hasn't had that dip and he's got the super bowl win and he's still going strong at 37.
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Dan Patrick
What if we reversed their career? So Stafford wins early and then doesn't do anything, whereas Russ doesn't do anything and then all of a sudden is in eight or nine Pro Bowls, he goes to two Super Bowls, he win like have you ever looked at if we reversed careers, how we would look at some of these players?
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Mike Florio
Oh, I think it's always better to finish strong. But when you say not do anything, even when Stafford was losing, he was great. Wilson has been statistically not great and just the eyeball test, he's not the guy that he used to be.
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Dan Patrick
Stafford's always got 10 Pro Bowls, Mike. He's got 10. Stafford's got two. Well, Russ has better stats.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. Now look at the career numbers though. Look at the career numbers. Stafford, Stafford is inching higher and higher on the all time list. I, I, I hear what you're saying. I just think that it's gone so badly since Russell Wilson was traded to the Broncos. And this is what he wanted. He wanted it to be all about him. He wanted to let Russ cook. And what happened from the moment he got to Denver, the career has gone off the rails. And yeah, last year in Pittsburgh there were moments, but boy, it fell apart down the stretch and who knows? Hey, he still throws a beautiful deep ball at pass. He threw. The Steelers wouldn't let him throw down the middle of the field. Last year they thought he was too short to throw down the middle field. Beautiful 80 yard pass down the middle of the field. He still can do it. The question is, when it starts to fall apart, can he get away from pressure. He used to be able to do it. Now he can't.
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Dan Patrick
He's Mike Florio and once again his book is definitely not about the NFL.
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Mike Florio
Thank you.
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Dan Patrick
It's a novel. It's called Big Shield and it debuts today on Amazon. A tale of gambling, the mob and pro football. Once again, definitely not about the NFL.
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Mike Florio
You can be a witness when they sue me.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Mike. That's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live. You can see that show with Chris Sims prior to this one on Peacock. We take a break. He is the director and producer of a new documentary that drops today. It's about the Dallas Cowboys. We'll come back with that after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Chase Daniel
He's Mike Harmon, I'm Dan Byer and we have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I Want yout Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with new episodes to.
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Dan Patrick
Not only look back at what happened.
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Chase Daniel
What you need to do at that minute and also look ahead of what's.
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McLean Way
Coming up in the fantasy football world.
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Dan Patrick
That's right Dan. And every week we're gonna scour the.
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McLean Way
Waiver wire to find the pickups to.
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Dan Patrick
Turbo boost your fantasy lineup. Sits starts fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate the competition. Listen to I Want yout Flex with.
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Chase Daniel
Mike Harmon and me, Dan Beyer on.
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Dan Patrick
The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and wherever you get your podcasts this Labor Day.
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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through August 26th, it's back to Deals time, where you can enjoy storewide deals and earn four times points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Kettle, Haagen, Dazs, M&M's Ritz, Chips Ahoy, Arrowhead, All Poppy, Charman and Red Bull. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery subject to availability restrictions apply. Visit Albertsons or Safeway.com for more details.
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Noah de Barrasso
Hey sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again? Welcome to Brand Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem. A year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates. I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union. Shopping around looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt and it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going.
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Dan Patrick
Through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of your life.
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Noah de Barrasso
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority. We wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like, like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now Reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
Hello, I'm John Lithgow.
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Mike Florio
We choose to go to the moon.
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Dan Patrick
I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast that's One small step for Man. It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.
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McLean Way
You're a great pilot, Buzz, as far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.
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Dan Patrick
That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.
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Noah de Barrasso
To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.
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Dan Patrick
We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.
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Chase Daniel
What do you say, Buzz?
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Dan Patrick
Another beer and triumph over addiction.
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Noah de Barrasso
Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.
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Dan Patrick
Good luck to you and become a true hero. Buzz and I will proceed into the lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.
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McLean Way
Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.
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Dan Patrick
Starring me, John Lithgow. Can you put it through Translate on.
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McLean Way
The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.
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Dan Patrick
You get your podcasts. Columbia the documentary available today. America's team the Gambler and his cowboys. It chronicles Jerry Jones and the era of the cowboys. The good years, the 90s, the dynasty, but also some controversies and key figures. McLean Way is the producer, director, and he and his brother, they've done a wonderful job with Netflix, with the untold documentaries. Who set the parameters here, McClain, of what you could and could not talk about with the Cowboys, we did.
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McLean Way
You know, it's like Jerry was one of our first questions when we hopped on the project. You always want to know, like, wait, who gets to control what goes in and what goes out of a project? And luckily, we've been making documentaries with Netflix for over 10 years, and they're really trusted partners and we work with them a lot. And ultimately they. They got to kind of decide as we would send them cuts and things like that. So Jerry was an open book. There were no questions that. That were off the table. And honestly, he was, like, incredibly supportive of the documentary and, and what we made. And when we showed him the documentary, he said that there were very painful reminders for him. So I think he liked parts of it. I think there are other parts that were a Little tough for him to watch, but all in all he's very supportive.
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Dan Patrick
What era does this cover?
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McLean Way
Yeah, this is mostly focused on like the early 90s, you know. I think episode seven gets us about halfway through to what the Michael Irvin trial was, which was happened about three weeks after they won their third Super Bowl. So it's mostly chronological and linear, but starts with Jerry striking oil and netting himself $100 million. Going and buying the Dallas Cowboys from Bum Bright, firing Tom Landry and igniting an incredible amount of controversy. Brings in Jimm Johnson, his friend from, you know, when he was 17 years old. They went back to back Super Bowls, massive divorce between the two of them, Brinkson, Barry Switzer to win one more. And then we kind of quickly get into, you know, kind of the downfall, the decline of this team on the field and this 30 year year, 30 year streak of not really being able to replicate that super bowl success.
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Dan Patrick
What's the wildest story in the documentary?
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McLean Way
There was a lot. I mean, I think that this documentary is like a big reason why we jumped on. It is a bit of a murderer's row of talking heads. Like, yes, Jerry is a big and larger than life character. Jimmy is as well. You got Michael, Troy, Emmett, and then you got Dion. He comes in in episode five. So that was a huge reason why we obviously jumped at this. There were fun stories about the halftime, the first super bowl at Pasadena because Michael Jackson played the halftime show. And so Michael Irvin and Charles Haley dipped out on Jimmy Johnson's halftime speech to go watch Michael Jackson do Thriller at the Rose Bowl. And so stuff like that was things that I didn't quite know about. But as these guys roll into these stories, all of a sudden they're telling you about how they, they go watch Michael Jackson. So stuff like that was always super fun.
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Dan Patrick
Did Dion talk about going to a hotel room and walking in and seeing Michael in bed with a bunch of women? And Dion said, mike, I don't live this way and. And walked out of the hotel room.
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McLean Way
It's. It's a story that sounds familiar. I don't think it was Dion Sanders. I heard that story from Michael, but it was Terrell Owens. And it was Terrell Owens that came into a hotel room. And it was right after.
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Dan Patrick
There might be, there might be a number of people who experienced that. Just to be honest with you.
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McLean Way
You have some options of people that you want to choose from. But I heard it was Mike Tyson after he got out of prison and they all went into a limo and had A nice suite in Vegas, and Terrell Owens came in, and his eyes got his biggest saucers. And apparently he said, I can't. I don't live this life. I can't do this. And so they. Mike and Mike scared away to, apparently, is the story that I was told.
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Dan Patrick
We learn anything new about Jimmy Johnson's exit from the Cowboys?
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McLean Way
Yeah, I mean, I think that the access to both Jerry and Jimmy was fundamental and crucial to why we wanted to make this documentary series. And I know that they've spoken at length, almost separately, about their relationship, and then when they have gotten together to chat about it, it's maybe like a short segment that they did on Fox. But for us, our opportunity was we got to sit down with Jimmy for a full day, I think seven hours of interviews, and we filmed with him a couple more days, and then Jerry, we interviewed for about 40 hours. So for us, the opportunity to go deep with these guys was really what drew us to it. And obviously, I know that it's been covered for years, and I think that this is. There is an element of this is true, which is their egos got too big. They had a massive credit argument, and they tried to claim more credit than the other one felt. And I certainly think that that's a part of their story. But for us, we tried to go a little bit deeper. You know, for Jerry, I felt that what ultimately I ended up kind of feeling as I made this documentary series was this was a guy who had a transformative experience in college. It was the best moment of his life. He won the 1964 national championship at the University of Arkansas. Years later, he nets himself $100 million. And he does what maybe I would do or my friends would do if they won $100 million overnight. They go and they buy the Dallas Cowboys. And I think he did that in an attempt to kind of recapture a really big, beautiful, transformative part of his life in college. And he hires a guy that he's known since he's 17 years old. But Jimmy's point is, like, Jerry, you hired me to do a job, and I need to go out and convince these players day in, day out to go sacrifice their body and their health so that we can win Lombardi trophies. And every Sunday, they need to go out and do that. But the locker room, practice, these are my areas. And when you come in, you can be a distraction in that endeavor. When you bring camera, ESPN cameras into the draft room, things like that, I think ultimately started just really rubbing these guys the wrong way. So they Kind of almost had different schools of thought, I would say. And listen, there's still some things that these guys are never going to agree on. If you get them in the same room and ask them who deserves credit for the Herschel Walker trade, you're. You're just. You're never going to get the same answer. You know, they're just that that's how they feel, and that's how they're always going to feel. But I do think that they still have a lot of actual respect and admiration that's grown for each other. They've always had that to a certain degree, and I think that that's beautiful. It's okay to disagree with people forever and still get along.
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Dan Patrick
Jerry and Jimmy teach us that McClain ways. Producer, director, co director, executive producer of the new documentary on Netflix, America's Team the Gambler and His Cowboys. I started to think about this with Jerry, and it's hard to tell a billionaire that they're wrong. And, you know, nobody's going to tell. Jerry's not going to listen to anybody. But I go back in his coaching tree, and it felt like there were only two coaches who didn't need Jerry. Jerry, you know, Brian Schottenheimer, Jason Garrett, Dave Campo, like, these guys all needed this job. They needed Jerry. Bill Parcells did not need Jerry, and Jimmy Johnson did not. Does Jerry talk about who he's hired or why he's hired these coaches? Who. This is America's team. You would think you could get any coach that you wanted to coach these teams.
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McLean Way
Yeah, it's a great question. And actually, I didn't really dive into Jerry too much throughout the, you know, each an individual head coach that he's hired over the years.
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Dan Patrick
But I.
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McLean Way
We hung out a lot as he was making the Schottenheimer decision. And I don't know, for better or worse. And I listen, I did not grow up a Cowboys fan, so I grew up in Los Angeles in the late 90s, so I unfortunately didn't have an NFL team to root for, but. So I didn't quite feel it as hard as the fans do. But Jerry, as he neared the Schottenheimer decision, talked about comfortability. That was like a big word that he used time and time again. He was comfortable with Schottenheimer. Comfortable with Schottenheimer, which did strike me as unique, because this is a guy that has taken risk after risk after risk. And even with something like the Johnny Manziel story that he kind of tells about Steven being like, we're not going to draft Johnny Manziel. And Jerry being like, all right, we're not going to drop Danny Manziel. But Jerry's retort is, you know, that was a middle of the road decision, and I didn't build the Dallas Cowboys the way I did by making middle of the road decisions. You have to take risks because the reward is just 10x what you can get. But Schottheimer was a comfortable decision for Jerry, and I don't. I don't know if that's because he feels like he's very close to what he. Where he ultimately wants to get to a Super bowl and he doesn't want to change things up too much, but I was a little like, okay, interesting. We're not really making like a big, risky, splashy choice here. He's going to go with someone that he's comfortable with.
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Dan Patrick
There's a quote that's attributed to the athletic, and it's the Cowboys 2023 playoff loss to the packers where midway through the fourth quarter, it's 48 to 16. And Jerry in the documentary says, this loss hurt us in every way more than anyone we've ever had. That's the worst loss in Jerry Jones's career.
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McLean Way
That's what he said. And, man, that we were with that team a lot in 2023. And ultimately, I think if they would have had a deep playoff run, it probably would have been a larger part of the documentary series kind of following the team on the road that year and filming them a lot. And listen, I was on the Cowboys hype train that year, too, because, you know, they were kind of undefeated at home. They had won, I think, like 16 games at AT&T. And they were coming in to play Green Bay. And I, you know, I think they were the favorite. And I was looking forward to that game. But watching Jerry watch that game, I mean, that family got shell shocked that game. There's. There's no doubt Jerry was quiet and intense as he was watching what felt like a very good chance for hopefully a playoff run kind of crumble in front of him. And there was no doubt. I mean, it was like after that game, we had been at Cowboys games after losses before. This one was different. Obviously it's the end of the season, so it carries that weight, but it just felt like this family had been through a very terrible experience watching, watching Green Bay put up the numbers that they did against, against the Cowboys. And no doubt Jerry said this loss hurt. It hurt on so many different levels is what he said. He said it hurt it set us back. It was a financial pain. It was a lot that he was talking about that, that loss in, in many ways. So, yeah, I think it is the worst loss he ever experienced.
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Dan Patrick
Does Jerry care too much?
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McLean Way
You know, it's interesting, I think that again, I wasn't a fan, so I, I know the 30 years that it's, that it's been, you know, conceptually, but I don't quite think feel it as a fan. So I, I, I, I, I don't quite know what that pain feels like. But the one thing that sometimes I would read that I just personally disagreed with was like, that Jerry doesn't want to win. It's like all this family wants is one more super bowl for Jerry. Like, they really like my experience. Just being around them is like, yes, this is a tremendously successful franchise. Off field, they do the brand building, they do the people talking about the team incredibly, incredibly well. But at the end of the, at the end of the day, I think that they are starting to get that sense of urgency that listen, and I think even Charlotte says this in the documentary, we don't have a lot of those next seasons. Well, there's always next seasons because their dad is getting older and older. And I think more than anything, what this family wants for Jerry is one more super bowl. And I think Jerry certainly wants that too.
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Dan Patrick
Being around him, knowing what's going on with Micah Parsons. Your sense is what?
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McLean Way
My sense is that Jerry is like, very comfortable in these situations. And I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I think for probably Cowboys fans, it's, it's not a good thing. But I don't think that he sweats in these situations, which I think normally motivates most people to be like, all right, I gotta go sign one of my star players to a long term contract and lock him up early. And for some reason, Jerry doesn't quite feel that, that, that, that, you know, he even says that he's like, I'm comfortable being uncomfortable. I'm comfortable with ambiguity. You know, and so it was a, it was an interesting process. I, to, to see him be like that. So I, I don't know why he necessarily does these things the way he does or, or maybe there's more information. I don't know, maybe, maybe there's things on Micah's team that they're not responding to or doing. I, I don. But I know that Jerry's very comfortable in these situations, which doesn't make me think that things are going to change necessarily.
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Dan Patrick
What's the next documentary with you and your brother?
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McLean Way
Oh, actually, we don't know. Actually we're going to take a little time off. We had a three part doc that came out in December of this last year that took us a while and then this was an eight parter. So we do do the untold series on Netflix. We'll probably jump back in and do a little bit more hands on producing there, which we're really excited about. But right now we don't, we don't have anything in the hopper. We're going to take a little time off and then try and tackle something hopefully as big. But this one was, this one was tremendously fun. I mean it was the first football documentary we made. I absolutely fell in love with the sport and just following the cowboys around and really getting to meet these guys. Troy, Emmett, Michael Dion, Barry, Jimmy, they were all just phenomenal. Phenomenal interviewees.
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Dan Patrick
Congrats to you and your brother. Great stuff and good luck with the documentary.
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McLean Way
Awesome. Thanks so much for having me on. Dan.
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Dan Patrick
That's McLean Way producer, director. He's the co director executive producer of the new documentary on Netflix, America's Team the Gambler and His Cowboys. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor.
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Mike Florio
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Dan Patrick
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Mike Florio
We choose to go to the moon.
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Dan Patrick
I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.
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Chase Daniel
It's One Small Step for Man.
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Dan Patrick
It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.
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McLean Way
You're a great pilot, Buzz.
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Chase Daniel
As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.
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Dan Patrick
That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.
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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.
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Chase Daniel
What do you say, Buzz?
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Dan Patrick
Another beer and triumph over addiction.
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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
Good luck to you and become a true hero. Buzz and I will proceed into the lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.
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McLean Way
Buzz we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.
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Dan Patrick
Starring me, John Lithgow. Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
Going through something like that is a traumatic experience. But it's also not the end of your life.
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Noah de Barrasso
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Dan Patrick
Chase Daniel, co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast and host of the Chase Daniel Show. You'll find it on YouTube. Always one of our favorites. He makes us smarter. All right, when you look at these quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, how do you, how do you pick somebody to be your starter out of those two? Like what, what would be the deciding factor here?
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, I mean, look, if you're going with pure athleticism, it would be Anthony Richardson. But I think what Shane Steichen, at least what I read and have seen has been looking for, it's someone who can run the huddle, who can get it in and out of the huddle, who can get us into the right plays at the right time, who knows how to fix protections, who knows you know when to check to a go route versus slant route? I'm not saying Anthony Richardson can't do that, but it's an all encompassing thing and that's what quarterbacks is. It's not just, hey, go out there, throw a bomb 70 yards down the field like Anthony Richardson, we've seen him do, and you're completing 40 something percent of your passes. I think that's sort of what Shane Steichen, I think that's what Chris Ballard sort of wants. And look, Daniel Jones has some athleticism and I appreciate that. But when you look at the whole thing, I actually love the Fact that they came out and they named Daniel Jones a starter because it takes all the pressure off Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson. If Daniel Jones struggles, he can go in there, he can maybe provide a spark. And I like to say this a lot because I've been on the sideline a lot. Right. I only started five years of my career. You get a different perspective from the sideline. You're able to see what is happening in a different manner than you would be behind the center. And it's not only on the field, but it's also in the classroom as well. How does Daniel Jones prepare? How does Daniel Jones handle blitz? You do all this stuff, and I think it's a great learning experience for Anthony Richardson. I mean, the talent is undeniable. He just hasn't been able to put it together.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I wonder how long we wait before we move on with quarterbacks. Because it used to be you could be drafted and you might sit for two years, three years back, you know, 25 years ago. Now it feels like, all right, we've. We've seen two. Two years maybe, and then maybe that's enough. Whether it was Mitchell Trubisky or you're looking at Trey Lance or you're looking at Zach Wilson, and we don't give you that much time anymore because there's so many other quarterbacks that you can go, why don't we just, you know, reset the clock and draft another quarterback?
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Chase Daniel
That's exactly right. And honestly, if you look at the 20, 26 class come out of college, it's a really deep class. It reminds me of two years ago, like with Jaden Daniels and Bo Nick. So I'm sure that GMs have their eyes on that, and they've already scouted. Theirs could be possibly four to five to six quarterbacks go in the first round. So I do think, you know, signing Daniel Jones, he's not going to be, I don't think, the future of the Indianapolis Colts. I don't know if they're moving on yet. I know Ballard personally. I. I've talked to him a little bit. I think that they really want Anthony Richardson to work out, but they don't have that time because if they don't win this year, Shane Steichen, Chris Ballard, they're probably gone. So they have to figure out something. And that's something, I guess, is Daniel Jones.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I kind of look at the cold side, look at the Giants. If, If I'm ownership of the Giants and I still believe in Brian Dable, then I have to let him know that his job is safe. Because if his job is safe, then he's going to play Jackson Dart a little bit. If his job's not safe, he's going to play Russell Wilson. And I don't think that helps the bigger picture. But you've looked at Jackson Dart in the preseason, what do you see?
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Chase Daniel
He's played excellent. And, and I'm, I'm of the camp and I might be the only people, especially outside of New York Giants fans that say I think Jackson Dart needs to play sooner rather than later. Let me break it down for you. I like Russell Wilson, future Hall of Famer. He lives right down the street from me. I'm in car drop off literally with Sierra today. Dropping my kids off like we go to school, like all that stuff. But when Jackson Dart plays, he's got something about him that brings a little.
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McLean Way
Bit of a spark.
- [45:21]
Chase Daniel
You watch these preseason games that he was playing in and Brian Dabel is running a little bit of that Ole Miss style offense. You see that fake piss pitch toss like middle route by the title. That was a play they ran at Ole Miss. You see this old, this up tempo style offense. I'm not saying Russell Wilson can't do this. Jackson darts a better athlete right now and is and his career than Russell Wilson. But if you are Brian Dabel and you are Joe Shane, if you don't play Jackson Dart and you don't make the playoffs and you ride with Russell Wilson, your jobs are gone. In my opinion, like I don't think you make it through. Whereas you play Jackson Dart early and it's a brutal stretch. Six of their first eight games are against playoff teams. It's the hardest schedule in the NFL. If you play Jackson Dart early though and you get seven, eight wins and you show some hope down the stretch, you're going to keep your job. I think that's how they need to proceed with this. Now I get it. You don't want to throw the rookie in with all these crazy defenses that they have to face. But the only way to play and to gain experience is guess what, Dan? You have to play. You actually have to go out there and do it. And so I think that's what they need to do with Jackson Dart.
- [46:38]
Dan Patrick
I think a lot of times we'll just see highlights or we'll read something and then we'll take our opinion from that. And I've specifically watched when Dylan Gabriel played and I watched when Shador Sanders played because I wanted to be fair to this situation instead of Just taking somebody's opinion on that. And granted, it's my opinion, but, you know, that's what this show is based on. I'm watching Dylan Gabriel and I saw good things with Dylan Gabriel. I saw a tight end who should have, you know, got a pass and it ended up being intercepted. But I don't know if we will grade him the same way we'll grade Shador Sanders. You looked at both of them. What did you take away from their performances?
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Chase Daniel
I couldn't agree more with you. I think you're right on, Dan. And when you look at Shador and you look at the first game, he was electric. I mean, it really was. He made some throws, he missed some throws. His first Throw in the NFL, right, was a 500 mile per hour slant route that went right through the guys because he was jacked up and he was ready and that's normal. And I think we need to normalize this. But he gets so much fanfare for other reasons that I think that we grade him on a different scale. And then when you look at what Dylan Gabriel did, the whole first drive and really most of the game was really, really good. Now you make two mistakes, and I think the handoff, based on what I saw and what I know of the play they were running, I put that more in the running back. He was a little wide on this track. And then you look at the interception, you have two receivers literally in the same spot and he throws it in the middle of them. And I'm like, okay, that's probably the mistake that you want to just eat and say, hey, just continue on the run. He stopped in the pocket going out to his left. He should have continued on the run or just dirt it live to fight another down. But there's some outside pressure on him to play well and he wants to make every throw. And he's more of the short, intermediate throw. But he was excellent. He was on rhythm, he was in rhythm, he was on time, he was pinpoint accuracy. And it was a. I thought it was a good start for them. But if you look at the stats, which I don't love to do, you're going to be like, oh, man, he is out two turnovers. He led to 13 points. I thought it was a pretty good start. Maybe I'm in the minority on it.
- [48:48]
Dan Patrick
He's Chase Daniel, co host, the Athletic Scoop City and it's a podcast. Also the Chase Daniel show on YouTube. Speaking of putting it in the dirt, Joe Burrow, still taking hits in preseason.
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Chase Daniel
What are you doing?
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Dan Patrick
Why Why? I don't know.
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Chase Daniel
I don't know. And I saw that, and everyone saw. Buck was like, just, it's August, Joe. Throw it away. You know, I was laughing. I'm like, what are you doing? You're the franchise. Like, if you go down with his injury history, I. I get it. I do love the fact that the head coach there is playing the starters. He's taking the Andy Reid approach. Zach Taylor is. They haven't played in a long time in the preseason, and if you look at their record in the first two weeks of the season since Zach Taylor has been the head coach, they're 1 in 11. And that is awful. Like, they just don't start fast. I think that playing. And I was with the Andy Reid tree and even Sean Payton, he played some of the starters in the preseason to sort of get the juices flowing. I would say to Joe, like, you don't need to take the hit to get the juices flowing, but he has three drives this preseason and three touchdowns. They're going to be just fine if they can figure out what the heck is going on with Trey Hendrickson and that defense.
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Dan Patrick
The Matthew Stafford situation, it was a curiosity. Now it feels like it's a concern. It's a back issue at that position. What do you think? How would you handicap this?
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Chase Daniel
Look, I know Matthew Stafford well, grew up in the same area in Dallas and played with him in 2020. He's one of the strongest and toughest dudes that I've ever met. When it comes to injury, there's always seems to be a nagging elbow or an ankle that just isn't right or a right shoulder or there's just always something and it's just because he's getting old. Like me. He's my age, right? We're 38, almost 39. It's hard to play quarterback in the league, but when you get with a back injury and you have a back injury, it's a little bit different because of the type of thrower of the football he is. He's not an arm thrower, which means, hey, you just put all your stress on the arm and that's all that matters. And that's all it takes, is you are really turning and you're really much of a core thrower, so you're torquing your body. And he has such good mechanics. He goes to Tom House, the guru who worked with Drew Brees and Tom Brady. He's consistently working and perfecting his craft. But those type of throwers, right? I don't know if you've dealt with any back pain? I have a little bit. It, like, it just the, the finest of, of torque on the shoulder or that leads down to the neck that then connects. Everything's connected and it's really difficult. I'm going to be interested to see how he throws the football if he has the same amount of zip on it. But ultimately, like, the dude's an iron man. He rarely misses games. I think eventually he'll be fine. It doesn't help that he missed some camp, though.
- [51:50]
Dan Patrick
Would you rather have Joe Flacco's career or Philip Rivers?
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Chase Daniel
Oh, my gosh. Where did this question come from? Look, Philip. Phillip was great. I feel like Philip never won the big game. Right. Like, like he always had these, these winning season that the playoffs always got from them. I'd probably go Joe Flacco, because the dude just doesn't die. Like he's just continuing to play. He's a starting quarterback. He's 40 something years old. He's got a chance to, to do it again. I actually played golf with him a couple months ago in a tournament here in Orange county. And you never know. Like, like, obviously other than the size, like, he is just a normal dude. Like, it was awesome. He's like talking about his kids. He has his, his crew of kids who are like 16 years old, just like running around, falling around. It just looks like a normal dude. And I'm like, bro, are you playing? He's like, I don't know. I think so. But, you know, it's just like one of those things where it's really cool. He's just, he's just chugging along, man.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And there's something to be said for that. That it was never too high, never too low, never too big for him. He just kind of. I mean, you're two years younger than him. Yeah.
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Chase Daniel
Which is crazy.
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Dan Patrick
It's.
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Chase Daniel
It's nuts. I mean, he's, he just continues to do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if he plays well. I mean, you saw what he did in 2023 with Kevin Savantsky four and one down the stretch, right. He didn't play very well last year, but it's going to be a tough division to do. I just don't know. Like, I'm of the, I'm of the thinking, right? Like, I think it's smart to, to play Joe Flacco. What's going to happen to Kenny Pickett? I don't know. But you got those two rookies. Like, I'm of The camp of like you need to play one of the rookies because you need to see what you have going forward. If any of them are the answer Based on the 2026 draft class, which Cleveland has two first round picks that.
- [53:41]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, my only concern with Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders is will you give them enough of a Runway that you can find out if they can play before you go, I don't know. Let's use these two first round picks and move up and get a franchise quarterback. That would be the only concern that I would have, that they get a fair shake to prove that they can play or not.
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Chase Daniel
Yeah, I mean, and I think, I think that would be eight to 10 games. So what, Flacco gets six games, seven games to prove, hey, if they're, if they're two and five through seven, like do you make the switch? Probably if you're five and two. No. And then you're rolling with Flacco because Kevin Savantsi, you know, two time coach the year, I don't think he wants to lose his job. I don't think he's gonna lose his job. But if stuff, you know, crazier things have happened, I just, it's a, it's a really precarious situation that they've sort of put themselves into.
- [54:31]
Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you again. Thank you.
- [54:33]
Chase Daniel
Thanks, Dan.
- [54:34]
Dan Patrick
That's Chase Daniel, co host of the Athletic Scoop City podcast and the Chase Daniel show on YouTube. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through August 26th, it's back to deals time where you can enjoy storewide deals and earn four times points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Califia Farms, Pillsbury.
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Dan Patrick
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Noah de Barrasso
I'm Noah and I'm 13 and I started this podcast because honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you know with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news, it's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de arrasto on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Summer's here, and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle on Good Moms Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest, and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her. Make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything. To hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I spent my career creating journalism that centers voices who have been historically sidelined. From the most pressing news stories to deep cultural explorations, Latino USA is journalism with heart. Listen to Latino usa, the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States. Hear it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
It's Black Business Month, and black tech green money is tapping in.
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Chase Daniel
I'm Will Lucas, spotlighting black founders, investors.
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Dan Patrick
And innovators building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy tech and generational wealth.
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Noah de Barrasso
I had the skill and I had the talent. I didn't have the opportunity. Yeah, we all know, right?
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Dan Patrick
Genius is evenly distributed.
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Noah de Barrasso
Opportunity is not.
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Chase Daniel
To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, Listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio.
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Dan Patrick
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Noah de Barrasso
This is an iHeart podcast.