Paul Pabst (41:54)
The bag, not a ring. This is a la Todd. I can't do it where it's one or the other. Like, is he interested? Yes, he's interested in the money. But do I think that he wanted to go elsewhere? I do. I just don't think that they got offers. Maybe they didn't even entertain offers. So he has to save face now. Take care of me. I guess I'll. They had. Once again, they had to give Deshaun Watson a deal that he couldn't refuse. He ruled out the Cleveland Browns. I think he wanted to go to Atlanta, but he ruled them out. And Then they said, what if we give you $230 million guaranteed? All of a sudden he wants to go to the Cleveland Browns. Miles Garrett is going to go from Cleveland to Canton to the hall of Fame. Do I think that he wanted to play meaningful games? Yes, I do. Now you go back, but. But this is. You weren't a good team last year with him. I think that they should have. Still. Now, you don't want to give him away, but you have to be open. I just think that that's. It's being irresponsible as a GM to not to at least listen. Now, you might say, no, we told him we weren't trading him. That's how much he means to us. Okay, you don't mean as much to him as he means to you. Because he wanted to leave. But I get that, that you're going to be loyal. We can't. You don't want to be the GM who signed to Sean Watson and traded Miles Garrett. I understand that, but you owe it to your franchise, your fan base, to at least explore. And the teams that are going to be interested in trading for him could be Philadelphia, could have been Washington, could be Detroit. These are all good teams. They may give you three first round picks. I think they were looking maybe for four. Were you going to get a Herschel Walker deal? I don't think so. So now what do you do? You got Miles Garrett. Great. Now what? Nick Chubb's not going to be there. Who's your quarterback? Jamis Winston, wide receiver. Like, what do you have here? I mean, is that your tune in factor? Hey, we got Miles Garrett, okay? You guys got dominated last year. The defense got dominated, okay? He's going to give you 15 sacks. Great. Now what happens on all the other plays and when the offense is on the field, it just. You're going to get out from underneath Deshaun Watson's contract. Now you just spend $40 million on a defensive player. You need help. I just think it's irresponsible for the Browns to put out a statement that says we're not trading him, and then not field calls. What happens if somebody says, we'll give you. And then you go, oh, like there could be one of those moments there. But you could even say to Miles Garrett, hey, we tried. We just didn't get an offer that we thought was commensurate to your talent. You're going to be a Hall of Famer. We would hate to give you up, but only if it helps our franchise moving. You know, in the next decade, like in, in the right direction and they didn't get that opportunity. A lot of times we overestimate what somebody's going to bring in return. Where you go, oh, they traded this guy and they got a fifth round draft pick. Wow. Oh, they, they gave up that guy. They got a fourth round draft pick in 2028. Like you just a lot of it is take them. They cost too much money and we want something in return. And I think that's what happens a lot of times. Devonte Adams going to the Rams, I think is a great move. Great move, Seattle. I don't know what they're doing, but I'll give that front office the benefit of the doubt. They make good decisions. Do I want Geno Smith? No. But will I take him over the other quarterbacks that I have? Yes. He is an older quarterback, above average quarterback, but he gives us a little more stability. Are they still going to draft a quarterback? Are they going to draft Ashton Genty? That's what I was told over the weekend. And is this a Tom Brady call? Like, how much did Pete Carroll weigh in with Tom? I'm going to guess a lot to say, let's bring in Gino. I can bring out the best in him. And if you're tomorrow, you probably are going, we got to find a franchise quarterback here. Like, this is. This is basically a two year situation for us and also the coaches that have to win now. Now Pete Carroll at his age wants to win now. Now he's joining a team that's not very good. I don't know if he looks at this and says, let's develop a quarterback over the next couple of years. I mean, Pete is the oldest coach in the NFL. You also have the Giant situation. Do you want to bring in a rookie quarterback for a coaching staff that may not make it to the second half of the season? Do you want to bring in Aaron Rodgers, who does make you better, but only makes you better for a year and that doesn't solve anything. Like, I'd rather grow with this and we might not be a competitive team. Maybe we have a good draft pick next year. Aaron Rodgers can come in and all of a sudden it's, you know, like putting earrings on a pig. All right, still pig. And that's the situation here with the Giants, the Jets, what are they doing? What's their quarterbacking situation? The Steelers. You start to look at these teams and you go, okay, there's only so many quarterbacks to go around here. You know, do the jets go? Well, I don't know. Let's take Justin Fields. Okay. What did the Giants do? You going all in on Cam Ward? Okay, good luck. What's Pittsburgh doing? You don't have a quarterback under contract, but you just brought in DK Metcalf. Seattle, Sam Darnold. Like, what's plan B if you don't get Sam Darnold? What if the Colts say, you know what, we'd like to go after Sam Darnold, we admit we made a mistake on Anthony Richardson. You got a team that can win and can win 10 games. Now, do I think Sam Darnold is great? No. Do I think he played great? Yes. At times he did. The question would be, what's he costing me? Sam Darnold, $60 million. No, Sam Darnold, 45 million. Okay, we can have a conversation here, but he's still under 30. Is he still 27? He's been 27 for about four years. Yes. Marvin.