Paul Pabst (2:26)

Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. The big news. Now, it might not sound like big news, but it struck me as a little news ish. And that's the Lakers with LeBron James. He opts in, and I don't know if there was any real mystery that would he not opt in? Would he become a free agent? Does he want to go someplace else? Keep in mind what he said on his podcast with Steve Nash, that it's really not about rings if you're going to look at somebody's legacy or their greatness. And I thought it was his way passive aggressively saying, hey, I'm not going to catch Michael Jordan, but that doesn't mean I'm not better than Michael Jordan. It was a passive aggressive comment. And if they counted the passive aggressive assist for LeBron James, he'd probably have about 500 more assists on his total. Very passive aggressive. Very good at being passive aggressive. But his agent, Rich Paul, said that LeBron knows the Lakers are building for the future, but he also wants to compete for championships. This is Rich Paul telling the athletic and the Mothership goes on to say, we understand the difficulty in winning now while preparing for the future. We do want to evaluate what's best for LeBron at this stage in his life and career. He wants to make every season he has left count, and the Lakers understand that, and they're supportive and they want what's best for him. We're very appreciative of the partnership we've had for eight years with Jeannie Buss, Rob Polinka, and. And consider the Lakers as a critical part of his career. Okay, this is all about Luka Doncic. This is his team now. It's official. LeBron. Hey. Got some nice parting gifts. I hope you enjoy a farewell tour. You and Aaron Rogers can have farewell tours. You can play one more season with your son here. But this is about the Lakers not wanting to do something drastic just for now. This is about building the future. Is Austin Reeves going to stay there? He turned down a contract extension. He's going to make more money, but this will be the final year, and they're going to have to pay more money, and rightfully so. I mean, he's been a bargain, a very good player. Luca wants to have a big man. Who are you going to get? And the first thing I thought of is LeBron staying. And look, he's still maybe a top 10 player, certainly top 15 player, but they want to be in the sweepstakes for Giannis. That's what struck me here, is, hey, Milwaukee has traded a big man to Los Angeles before and it worked out really well for the Lakers. Can they get Giannis? Would they be involved in that picture? When you clear LeBron's salary, 50 plus million off the books. And I think that's what this is all about. It's Lucas team. LeBron is there and there's going to be a farewell tour. And you know, for everybody who said, wait a minute, I thought LeBron's the GM, maybe he was the GM five or six years ago, seven years ago, he not the GM now. Now what are you going to do? Can you do something and you're still going to be competitive? I mean, you can win upwards of 55 games this year, I think. But they. Right now, the lakers have the fifth best odds to win the title according to DraftKings to win the Western Conference. They're up there, but Houston's really good. OKC just won a title, so you got to start there. You're not on their level, at least not right now, because those teams are young and still hungry and they're deep. The Lakers are not. But that doesn't mean with Luca. We've seen Luca take a team to the NBA Finals. Now you do have LeBron and Reeves, you do have some pieces there. The question is sort of, what is reality? And in Los Angeles, Hollywood, you don't always deal in reality. Sometimes you're like in La La Land. See? See what I did, you guys? Hey, come on, show started. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And win totals not available yet of what the Lakers win total prop bet would be. But you know, they're probably 52, 53 win team and. But you know, they bowed out against Minnesota early. Against a younger team, once again, you got to factor in Minnesota as well, as they're still a formidable team. But it just struck me as, hey, what about LeBron? And it felt like the Lakers were saying, yeah, yeah, we're going to pay him that money and keep his son on the roster. And. But this is Lucas team. And now what we do will be to incorporate what we think will help Luca in the future. This is about the future. It's not about now. Got to keep LeBron. He wants to stay in LA. All the business opportunities he has, and you have your son there. But it feels like this is the last year LeBron plays for the Lakers. Does he play another year someplace else? That's always the possibility, yes.

Fritzy (7:55)

Paulie, this reminds me of SEC football, when you have a really good senior quarterback, but you have a five Star recruit coming in, and the five star recruit is wagging the dog like Clemson back in the day. When I saw the quote by Rich Paul, I understood it. Obviously, you want to do as much as you can in the near future to build for the near future. But the Lakers, five months ago, yesterday or tomorrow, they traded for Luka Doncic, which establishes their current and future in one of the great swindles in recent basketball history. It's like they forgot about this.

Paul Pabst (8:27)

Yeah, that was building for the future, but it was helping now by getting one of the top five players in the world. But I don't know if LeBron sees it that way. He knows it's Lucas team. I. Why make this public? Can you make it public to put pressure on the front office to do something here or if the team's not that good, we told you to do something. I'm just kind of surprised that Rich Paul was going to say this, you know, publicly. Yes, Marvin, Rich Paul's treating the Lakers like they're the Hornets. Like, are you guys trying to compete? They're the Lakers. Of course they're trying to compete. Why do you think they got Luca? Just like Paulie said. That's stupid. Yeah, but why would you say this publicly? Don't. Do you think the front office doesn't realize, hey, LeBron, don't forget about LeBron. Hey, we got to win championships. Hey, it's about now. Don't you think you had that conversation with them when you decided to opt in on that salary? Absolutely. I. I would guess you would say to Rob Pelinka, hey, he's going to opt in, but you got to help him out a little bit here. I was just kind of surprised that, hey, this is about now, too. Don't forget about LeBron. This is about the future with Luca. We get that, but I mean, what do you expect them to do, like trade Austin Reeves? And then you're getting what they still need. Shooting, they need a big man. Perimeter defense is. I mean, there's some issues here that it doesn't just solve it by. And LeBron wasn't taking a discount. They said that right away. He's not, you know, not giving you a hometown discount here. Just feels like. This is a strange comment to make. The end of June, this is still a good team. Are they better than Denver? Better than Minnesota? They're not better than the Rockets, I don't think. And they're not better than okc. If you just start there now, you still have some bottom feeders there in the west but are they a fifth seed? Are they going to be better than Dallas when Kyrie's comes back? That team might be better, yes.

Rich Paul (10:44)

You know, I think if you're, if you're. I don't know, I'm just trying to play devil's advocate, I guess. But if you're an aging Stars agent and you decide to give it one more go, maybe just putting the emphasis, even though everybody knows it, on, you know, we don't have a lot of time left, and LeBron needs to win right now. So we know the Lakers are going to carry ON Long after LeBron James is finished, but he needs to win right now, and that's where our focus is on right now. You guys might be looking more to the future, but we need to do this right now. And that, you know, I don't know that it says, like, maybe that sinister is the right word, but I don't know that it's any deeper than, like, you know, this dude's only got maybe a year left here, so we got to win this year. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Paul Pabst (11:31)

But do you think the front office doesn't realize that?

Rich Paul (11:34)

I don't know that. I think that the front office probably doesn't look at it as crucially important this one year as the guy who's like, I might be done after this. I only got one year left, maybe two. Whereas the Lakers see themselves as a global brand and for hundreds of years.

Paul Pabst (11:49)

But if you're LeBron and here you're his agent, don't you then say to the front office, are you guys all in this year? And then if you're not, hey, we're building for the future. I mean, we're in and we're all in, but with. With the pieces that we have right now, they're waiting for LeBron's salary to be off the books. So that's the weird part of this. Yes.

Rich Paul (12:14)

Well, maybe it's setting up a, you know, I don't know, mid season.

Paul Pabst (12:22)

Saucy. I don't see it happening. Because if you're LeBron, let's say, because he has a no trade, you don't want to go to a team, you're going to weaken by going to them, and they have to give pieces to the Lakers. If he was going to go, let's say you wanted to go back to Cleveland. Now is when you go. Just say, I'm going to go. Put me on that team, and we're going to be the favorites in the east we'll be the favorites because the east is damaged right now. You want to win another title? Win a title in Cleveland, you can do that. But I just think there's selfish reasons you want to stay in la. Your family's in la, business opportunities, your son's playing for the team. You probably can't have have it both ways there. But to me, this is really signaling that, yes, you're here. We will compete this year, but then we have to move on. There's a whole nother era that's going to start and maybe it started this weekend. Yes. Marv, if you're the Lakers, do you ask Rich Paul, flat out, hey, do you think LeBron has one year left or two years left just so we can get this show on the road as far as preparing for the future with Luca as their guy? Well, did you do a one plus one or is it just a one year deal? That might tell you too, with the Lakers that they, they may look at this as a one year deal. I mean, he's a obviously still a great player and still a draw and still important, like all of those things. I just think they're saying, that guy's 40 and that guy's 26. We're hitching our wagon to him and come along for the ride. He is the guy who's leading us, not you. Yeah, Paulie.

Fritzy (14:06)

It is ironic that if this were any other sport, they would move on from LeBron James. If this were football, they would have moved on from well before they were into this situation. Even baseball, they try not to keep older guys at the very, very end, but the NFL would never have this direction for a franchise.

Paul Pabst (14:22)

877-3Dp Show Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show we got a gambling investigation, federal investigation into one of the Detroit Pistons. We'll talk about that. The prop bets, that's the key. Took away prop bets from college football, college athletics, and they make a lot of money, prop bets. But then, you know, our players realizing they can make some money too. And you know, we talked about this early this morning and Fritz, he goes, why would you, why would you do that? You know, you're already making a lot of money. He was ready to sign Beasley, ready to sign a three year, $42 million deal. Well, you do it because you don't think you'll get caught. If that's the case, if that's what happened in this situation, you know, John Tay porter, Michael Porter Jr. III's brother, he was hanging on he was a fringe player and probably saying, hey, you know what, I can help some friends. Maybe I get a couple hundred thousand dollars out of that. You know, you're not thinking, hey, why hey, I could get caught. You're, you're, you don't think that way. You think, hey, this is a great opportunity. Nobody will notice. I mean that's the great part of this for me is the NBA. If it's true. They, they caught him, they found this, they saw this. You know, Vegas polices, they, they have to police the sport. It's their business. Multi billion dollar business. We have to be aware of everything. But we'll have more on this coming up next hour. But I don't care how, how small, you know that you think or nobody's going to notice me. They will. They have to. It's like whenever you see something that looks strange, it goes from this to this. Vegas knows this. They're watching this. But Beasley is a nine year veteran. You got some money. If, if it's true that you are shaving points or prop bets, they'll catch you. They'll find you. They have to. It's their job. It's imperative. But for these guys to go, nobody's going to notice this little thing here, hey, over under rebounds is 6 and A. Nobody will notice. They have to notice because if you tell somebody, that person tells somebody that it's a game of telephone after that, hey, I got a, I got a tip. I, this happened to me when I gambled. Somebody would say, hey, you know what I'm hearing? Oh, yeah. And then somebody would and then all of a sudden, by the time I got to the bed, it went from six and a half to nine and a half. Like it was like, okay, something's up. And then the bookies go, hey, we're going to react accordingly. And then they take it off the, off the board. They're going to find you, they're going to get you. And if that's the case and the feds involved in this now, this isn't the NBA, it's the feds. We'll talk about that coming up. All right, we'll get to phone calls 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle it DP show how about we take a break on this Monday morning? We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. Would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking what in God's name is the fifth Hour? I'll tell you. It's a spin off of the Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen? Picture, if you will, a world where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more every week, explaining explore some amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to the fifth hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hi Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us. Thanks.

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Paul Pabst (23:36)

All right, the NBA free agency month got underway this weekend and the biggest ish news is LeBron is going to stay in Los Angeles. I don't know if anybody's surprised. I think the surprising part was his agent, his representative, Rich Paul, kind of making it. Well, not kind of making it public of, hey, LeBron wants to win. Now we know you're thinking about the future. The future is now for LeBron James. I'm sure the front office really appreciated Rich Paul going public with that and saying what didn't need to be said. I think the front office is well aware that this might be LeBron last year, but he's going to opt in. He has a no trade clause and I didn't know if it was going to be a two year deal or a one plus, but by all accounts it's a one year deal. And Rich Paul pointing out to the Lakers that LeBron still wants to win. All right, poll question, Seaton. What do we have?

Rich Paul (24:38)

But we got two of them right now. We have up there. In which league is it toughest to go from worst to first? And I only put up three right now. I put up NBA, MLB and the NFL toughest to go worst to first. Right now. Major League Baseball is winning that one and I think that's going to change. We also have to put up there, and there's a little bit of a topic, but is there a term for a player who is neither a bust nor a star that goes first overall?

Paul Pabst (25:11)

So deandre Ayton.

Rich Paul (25:12)

Yes, this is called the deandre Ayton poll.

Paul Pabst (25:14)

Okay. Because I think he's going to be A free agent. He was number one pick, but he was also number one pick in the draft. That gave us Luca and Trey Young as well. But deandre Ayton, he went to the University of Arizona and the owner at the time, I think Robert Sarver thought let's keep the local talent in Arizona. Not thinking that maybe we get a generational talent or a worldwide talent. But not everybody knew about Luca. And I mean, let's be fair about this, that I did watch, I watched highlights of him in Europe and I just thought that he was barely getting by people, barely getting his shot off. And then I realized that's what he does in the NBA. He barely gets by you, barely gets his shot off. But he does it every single time. Trey Young I thought was going to be a thing. I thought that he. He would be a guy who could be a specialist. Turned out that he's a really good passer as well. But deandre Ayton, I don't think he's bad enough to be a bust, but I don't think he's good enough to be one of those guys that you look and say he was worthy of the number one pick. Yes, Paulie.

Fritzy (26:34)

He's been in the league, DeAndre Ayton for seven years. He averages about 14 and 10. He's had the best season, was his second year. He averaged 18 11. He has never made an all star team in seven years.

Paul Pabst (26:47)

I don't think he's going to make an all star. No.

Fritzy (26:49)

So we know what we know about his career.

Paul Pabst (26:51)

Yes.

Fritzy (26:51)

We need a term. Disappointing. That almost seems harsh. Unfulfilled.

Paul Pabst (27:02)

Yeah, you could do that. Like we're looking for one word.

Fritzy (27:05)

Yeah. Not a bust, nor a star.

Paul Pabst (27:08)

All right. Yeah.

Rich Paul (27:09)

See, when you look at number one overall picks for years and years and years surrounding that one, he's doing pretty well compared to everybody else. He's significantly more successful than a lot of dudes that went number one overall.

Paul Pabst (27:26)

It's a lot of times it's just like Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. You know that Ryan Leaf was viewed a bust. He was never going to, you know, and it made it worse because Peyton was one of the greats of all time. So sometimes Sam Bowie, not his fault, but he was injury prone and, you know, they ended up taking Sam Bowie in Portland. Michael Jordan was in the draft. So I think that has to do with how we look at you of we could have had him. And Aiden is serviceable. I could see him playing for the Lakers, but I don't know if serviceable Is. I don't know. Hey, how would you describe his talents? Serviceable. Yeah.

Fritzy (28:12)

Paulie, Also in that draft with DeAndre Ayton, Luca, Trey Young. As you said, SGA and Jalen Brunson.

Paul Pabst (28:18)

Were in that draft. Okay. All right. Yeah. That doesn't help in how we look at you. But. But if you said, hey, this guy's going to average 16 and 10 for his career and he's the number one overall pick, I'm good. If he was like the eighth pick in the draft, you'd go, hey, wow. All right. 1610. That's good. Yes. Mark. See, he needed to be in the Anthony Bennett draft. There was nobody in that draft, man. Good career by him. Yeah. Cabs. Cabs would have had a good guy. Good player. 16 and 10. Serviceable. Yes. You'll take it? I would. I don't know what the ceiling was when you say unfulfilled. Unfulfilled. Because he's the number one pick or was he a guy that people thought, man, this guy is going to be. I thought Jaren Jackson Jr. III was going to be great. And. And he's. He's really good, but I thought he was going to be great, that he could play defense, offense, he. He could shoot. He had range, block shot, you know, all those things. But he was in that draft, too, wasn't he, Marvin? Jaren Jackson Jr. The third. Did he go like, third?

Marvin (29:31)

Twas.

Paul Pabst (29:32)

All right. Yeah. So I don't know if we look at the ceiling and then go like, how high is the ceiling for deandre Ayton? And if he's that good, why is he on the move again? Yes, Marvin, because he's just serviceable. Okay. He's not a franchise changer. And I think that's the issue. They were thinking about the old school days of the 90s. We need a dominant big man, and you had Trey Young and Luca right there. But to your defense, nobody knew Luca. Nobody. Yeah. Yeah.

Fritzy (30:04)

Paulie, we need a comp in another sport. A player who has taken number one overall, probably a quarterback who didn't have a bad career, just never really paid off. Sam Bradford.

Paul Pabst (30:19)

Serviceable.

Fritzy (30:21)

I don't think he made a Pro Bowl.

Paul Pabst (30:24)

He made a lot of money.

Fritzy (30:25)

Yes, he did. So did deandre Ayton. Yeah, that's Sam Bradford. Might be it, because Jameis Winston's been a bit of a disappointment, but he had some decent years. I'd say more of a disappointment for Jameis.

Paul Pabst (30:40)

Yeah.

Fritzy (30:40)

As the number one pick.

Paul Pabst (30:43)

But wasn't he the first member of the 30.

Fritzy (30:45)

30 club, which I don't want to be.

Paul Pabst (30:47)

No, you don't want to be in that. 30. 30. Yes. Yes.

Rich Paul (30:50)

Baseball doesn't really have this conversation because you don't know anybody until it's like, all right, let's see if that $450 million is worth it. That's going to be tricky. But there aren't really busts or anything.

Paul Pabst (31:03)

Yeah, I mean, when you think back and you go number one pick in the draft, it's because the number one pick normally doesn't go right into Major League baseball.

Rich Paul (31:11)

We get 10 of these dudes in the NFL and the NBA. We get a million of these dudes a year, then you don't even have to be the number one overall pick.

Paul Pabst (31:20)

But we focus. I think we focus on the number one pick in hockey probably more than we do in baseball because it feels like those players are generational talents and chances are they're going to be playing in the NHL right away. Yes. Paulie one.

Fritzy (31:35)

That stands out. 2009, we covered him a lot. Steven Strasberg out of San Diego State. He was supposed to be it. In this last 20 years, he was the most. Before Skiings, the most publicized pitcher going into the league. He had a good career. 113 and 62. He made three all star teams. Never won a Cy Young.

Paul Pabst (31:55)

Oh, he did win over 100 games.

Fritzy (31:57)

Yeah, I got him. Well, he pitched 13 years, 113 wins. He had a couple of good seasons with over 15 wins. 113 and 62. Three All Star appearance.

Paul Pabst (32:08)

I remember. And I liken Steven Strasberg to Jadavian Clowney with the hype. Because I remember John Smoltz was talking his first game. He did in the minor leagues. Steven Strasberg, I remember Smoltz was talking about. They were. Had these glowing reviews like he was the perfect pitcher. He was the perfect pitcher. Jadavian Clowney. Oh, my gosh. We've never seen this before. When the mothership went out to his pro day and. And there's no perfect player. There are times when we look at somebody and you. You can't miss. Well, you can miss. We've seen that happen. And Steven Strasberg was just like Mark Pryor. Mark Pryor was the perfect pitcher. Now the Dodgers pitching coach. You had experts who were looking at him and his form, everything about him. It was great. He's going to be dominating. Well, he wasn't overused with the Cubs, with Kerry Wood, and never really reached that potential that people had for him. But when it Comes to number one pick on the draft in baseball. I don't think that we even remember like that guy was 9th, 9th round draft, you know, Albert Pujols, what was he, 13th round draft pickers. And, you know, we just don't think about it that way or it feels like you're giving away the future of your team because maybe you missed on the number one pick in the draft in football or in basketball. That certainly is the. The feeling, yes. Marvin. I don't know much about hockey, but I do remember this name when I was young about him being the next guy. Eric Lindros. Yeah. I think he was the number one pick overall. And they talked about him like crazy. Well, he had concussions and yeah, he wasn't able to live up to the hype. He was supposed to be like, that's the new hockey player. He's big and he's fast. Powerful. Not quite Lemieux, but that feeling of, you know, wow, he's different. Let's see. John in Pennsylvania. Hi, John. Best and worst of the weekend. Hi, Dan.

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Today I. I'll start with my best of the weekend.

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Paul Pabst (34:27)

It'S three teams every 33 degrees on this circle.

Seton O'Connor (34:30)

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Paul Pabst (34:38)

If you get a chance to catch.

Seton O'Connor (34:40)

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Paul Pabst (34:42)

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Seton O'Connor (34:44)

It's a smaller circle than a regular.

Paul Pabst (34:46)

Soccer pitch, but I don't know if you've seen it. Maybe Paulie has, but very, very, very cool. All right, my worst of the weekend.

Seton O'Connor (34:56)

As I was wrapping up the weekend.

Paul Pabst (34:57)

Last night, I caught some of the air guitar championship air jam off. And these guys are dressed up in costume.

Seton O'Connor (35:07)

Some like the ultimate warrior. There was a Freddie Mercury in red. There was them and they're air guitaring and it's a train wreck. I couldn't take my eyes off of it, of course, but I just, I got the chills, you know those embarrassment.

Paul Pabst (35:22)

Chills that you get when somebody does.

Seton O'Connor (35:24)

Something just so stupid.

Paul Pabst (35:25)

All right, well, thank you, John. I would say you probably need to get a life. John. Just saying maybe you need to maybe stream. Maybe stream something. Yeah, a lot of things to stream. Thank you, Joe. Yes, Paul.

Fritzy (35:41)

I didn't see those events, but I did Watch some of the National Darts Championship this weekend. And the coverage, whatever you think of darts, the coverage is fantastic. They know how to produce that show. It's like the place is going crazy.

Paul Pabst (35:53)

Backroom guys went, yeah, Dylan Ray, bad. Larry, I think, came up. They went. It was Madison Square Garden. They went to the dart championship. Let's see. Steve in LA. Hi, Steve. What's on your mind? Hey, now, D.P. hey. Hey. I just want to give you a compliment, complimentary comp. You guys are the Howard Stern of sports talk radio. That's one thing. That's a great comp, by the way. Another nickname. I got a nickname for you. Black Jesus. Michael and I also wanted to ask you when. Yeah, Friday. You guys were. You were talking about kind of being broke. Not poor, but broke. Not having enough money. When you were young, what was the nicest thing or the first nice thing you bought when you started making money? I'll hang up and listen. Thank you, Steve. Yeah, we weren't poor growing up. We. We just didn't. There were certain things we didn't have. We were limited. How's that? Six kids, and we had one and a half bathrooms, so. And having two sisters. And you just did. You just dealt with it. But I. I feel bad if I embarrassed my brothers and sisters by comments that I was making. We just. We didn't have things, that's all. But, you know, we. It made us better workers. That's why we're all pretty successful in what we do, you know, our different walks of life. But no, we. We just didn't have that stocked refrigerator. And, you know, you go to your friend's house and all of a sudden there's like Twinkies there and Ding Dongs and you get chocolate milk and Wonder Bread. Like, there's things that stand out when you go to somebody else's house and that, you know, that happened. But I just remember one Christmas went down the street, and this family. You couldn't walk. You couldn't walk on the floor because the entire floor was full of gifts. And we got three gifts at Christmas, and even then, it. It didn't. You weren't necessarily getting what you wanted. And, like, it always sucks. Always. You know, your stocking stuffer was full of socks and underwear, and you're like, okay. Or gloves. And you're like, all right, you know, but, hey, no, boohoo. Made us stronger. At the time, I was pissed, but. But, you know, I learned to. I learned to deal with it. Yes, Mara, it's like, did you go to Your friend's house and see name brand cereal. Oh, yes. Like, whoa, you have Froot Loops. We've been eating Fruity O's. Yeah. You know that when there's soda in the refrigerator and you're like, wait, can you just take that? Yeah. Do you want. You take a Coke if you want one. Damn. What is this? This ex. And then you go home, and then you say to your mom, I was over at Scott McKevitt's place, and he. His refrigerator is packed. Well, why don't you spend more time over at Scott McKevitt's place? I'd be like, okay, yes, Todd, you were more reasonable asking for something like a can of soda. We would see, like, the new Atari video cartridge at someone's house or something that was far more expensive. And we throw a temper tantrum until we got that. Oh, no, we. I remember the greatest Christmas I ever had. I was playing with a gift, and then my mom came down and she said, oh, that's your brother Bill's. So I had to give up the best gift I ever had, and it was my brother.

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Paul Pabst (44:11)

I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.

Seton O'Connor (44:20)

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.

Paul Pabst (44:32)

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Marvin (44:41)

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Paul Pabst (45:49)

David Perdam covers gambling for ESPN and the story is Malik Beasley of the Pistons. There's an FBI probe with him. Well, David joins us now. What exactly is Beasley accused of doing?

David Purdom (46:06)

So federal authorities are investigating him on allegations of gambling on the NBA related to games and prop bets. That's according to his attorney. So exactly the details of which games and what went down with him are still unknown at this time. But he is the third NBA player in just the last 18 months to be reportedly under investigation by the feds for betting allegations. And joins John Tay Porter and Terry Rocheare.

Paul Pabst (46:34)

Okay, this is different than the NBA investigating what. What happens when there's a federal probe? How do they investigate as opposed to what the NBA would do?

David Purdom (46:43)

Well, this all started back again with the John Tay Porter thing. And they subpoenaed some of the sports books for betting records for individuals that they suspected may have been involved. And so my working premise is that they probably had those subpoena records, the betting records went through, and see what some of the unusual betting activity on some of these other games. So they're working through everything right now, communicating with the sports books, the attorneys, and so forth, to see where it goes.

Paul Pabst (47:12)

Okay, but give us a red flag. Give us what happens when all of a sudden somebody goes, wait a minute, something suspicious?

David Purdom (47:21)

That's a great question. And when bookmakers really are convinced that something is untoward is going on is when they move the odds. Right. So a prop bet may be over under two and a half for rebounds or whatever. And instead of moving, you know, up to four and a half, they'll adjust the big on. If you want to bet the over, it may be minus 200 when they adjust the odds. And the betters don't stop betting it and just keep betting it. Even though these odds have moved against them, it is a major red flag. In fact, some bookmakers will tell me they will do it intentionally moving, overly aggressive move. These odds so crazy that nobody that was really trying to bet it seriously would keep betting. And yet people do keep betting it, and then they know, oh, something's going on.

Paul Pabst (48:08)

How dangerous are prop bets since an individual can control a lot of what his numbers are.

David Purdom (48:15)

Yeah. Certainly they are more easily to be manipulated than a full game. If you just have a player that's over under on rebounds or three pointers made or points. That's what happened with the John Tay Porter situation. There was all these bets on unders on his statistics, then he took himself out of the game within minutes. And so all the unders hit. So parlay. Excuse me. Prop bets definitely are a concern. There's a debate to be had whether we should be offering in the regulated market prop bets on all these individual players.

Paul Pabst (48:49)

Well, I know that college took away the prop bets or the, you know, Vegas took away prop bets on college athletes. Correct.

David Purdom (48:57)

Some of the. Some of the states have. Vegas has not about. I think there's about 18 states that now prohibit individual player props on college athletes.

Paul Pabst (49:06)

Yeah. Because you know, that's tricky when you're a college kid. And you know what happens here, David, I mentioned this, that these guys probably thinking, nobody's going to notice this. Hey, I'm going to do this. Nobody will notice. Well, Vegas has to notice this. Like, they have. Like, it's imperative that they notice these things. And anybody out there who thinks nobody is going to notice if I do just this or this, and I play for this team, nobody follows, you know, University of Alabama, Birmingham, they do. They have to.

David Purdom (49:41)

You're right. 100 and you'll hear people go, oh, the sports books are. No, the sports books are the ones that lose when these bets are. Are not on the up and up. They are the ones that detect it. So you're absolutely right there. The things, there's. What's the saying, you know, two people can keep a secret. If it gets past there, it's over. Greed starts to get involved. Hey, I made a little money here. I'm keeping it quiet. Let me tell my buddy, he makes a little bit money. All of a sudden there's this flood of money coming in on these random games that people like, where is this coming from? So it does to get detected.

Paul Pabst (50:14)

NBA hasn't responded yet to Malik Beasley. That's correct.

David Purdom (50:18)

They said they are cooperating with the federal investigation.

Paul Pabst (50:22)

Good to talk to you again, David. It won't be the last time I talked to you, David Purdom.

Seton O'Connor (50:29)

Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.

Paul Pabst (50:51)

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Marvin (50:59)

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Marvin (51:19)

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