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We'll check in with the Cowboys coming up in a little bit. Brent Musburger just elected to the Pro Football hall of fame, the 2025 Pete Roselle Award. And Sterling Sharp, also a member of the Pro Football hall of fame, class of 2025. The former Packer great will join us coming up. All right, a few things now. It got serious on Friday with Micah Parsons because up until this point, I just thought it was a chess game and Jerry's done this before. But always remember this if you're a Cowboy fan, Jerry doesn't lose anybody that he wants to keep. If he wants to keep Micah Parsons, he'll keep Micah Parsons. What happened is Micah Parsons agent got involved in this. Jerry likes to talk to the player and let's work this out. And normally the player does pretty well with Jerry Jones, but in this situation, Micah Parsons has requested a trade. Here is Jerry Jones on the message that he's sending to Cowboy fans. As always, in any relationships or different moods at different times of your relationship, that's what it is. Don't lose any sleepover. That's the one thing I would say to our fans. Don't lose any sleepover. Just to be Clear. You don't feel the relationship has changed at all from the Super Bowl Big 12. Again, I know my attitude, and my attitude is the same one I've had. I think the world of Micah. He's an outstanding player. He can really help us, but he's got to fit in with what's in the best interest of the team. And that's what the negotiation is all about. And it's not just about money. It's about trust. And the trust is wearing thin. You have Jerry and his son. They walked the tightrope before. But this feels a little bit different than CD Lamb or Dak Prescott. Parsons isn't just another disgruntled player. He's a foundational piece when you think of the defense. He's one of the top two, three, four players on defense in the NFL. And not every trade request ends in departure, but, you know, the tension is there. And I always wonder about the relationship that, yes, you can kind of tamp that down a little bit, you can bury it a little bit, but it's still there. Now, if Jerry really wanted to play and toy with Micah Parsons, you know, you can franchise tag him for a couple of years if you wanted to. It feels like Jerry has gotten what he wanted. You know, keep this in mind of when he bought the team. He got the three Super Bowls. Now it just feels like he loves being in the spotlight. The Cowboys are going to lead every show. Micah Parsons, they're going to talk about the Cowboys. He does subscribe to any publicity, is good publicity. I don't. But he's a brilliant businessman, and the cowboys are worth $10 billion. The number of analysts who have in the last year or maybe year and a half said this is about publicity. If Jerry didn't have those three Super Bowls, I wonder what his approach would be as an owner, because he's got three, and he's a Hall of Famer and he's a billionaire. I think he craves the attention. I think he loves the attention. They haven't won anything now. They flirted with some good seasons that end up, you know, in. You know, it's a crash, a thud. But I just wonder about Jerry when it comes to having a microphone in his face, cameras in his face, everybody waiting to talk to you, waiting to see what you say. And sometimes the. I don't. Maybe lack of urgency has always concerned me here. You're probably the third best team in your own division. I just don't think you can play games like this. I think get. Get a contract Done and move on. Get a contract. If you truly want to keep Micah Parsons and CD Lamb and Dak Prescott, then get the job done. Get it done. Because if you're going to wait, every time you've waited, it's cost you more money, and you need to have a full roster. You're top heavy with Micah and Dak and CD Lamb, but this is your goal. When you draft them, your goal is, I hope he's one of the greatest defensive players, and he's here for a long time. Well, he's one of the greatest defensive players, but now you're making him rethink if he wants to be here. CD Lamb, I hope he becomes one of the best receivers in the game. He has now. Dak Prescott, you can say, well, you know what? If he proves to be a starter and he's consistent, man, that'll be great. We found a diamond in the rough. Okay, you got him. You signed him. You paid him more than you needed to. But that's your guy. He can be loyal. But then you're not quite sure why he gets some deals done and then doesn't get Micah Parsons done when you could have. And I go back to April, when before the draft. Now, all of a sudden, you got everybody who can be involved in this. I don't want to wait till August. I'm going to play a game and say, all right, you know, maybe we'll. We'll trade him if we have to. He doesn't want to be here. We'll trade him in April. Everybody can be involved in this. If you truly aren't all in on Micah Parsons. And that's when we should have been discussing this, not now. Because it still feels like Jerry, he's going to get this done at some point. It might be in three weeks. It might be on, you know, the Sunday, you know, when they open up. What is it, a month? A month from today, the Cowboys open up. Right. So is that what his. I mean, we headed towards that kind of deadline finish line with Jerry. It just. It feels like he loves, craves, needs that attention, and he's gotten it. But if he didn't have those three Super Bowls, I wonder if his approach would be a whole lot different. All right, Seaton, let's pull. Question today. Is Dallas a good place to play? Yes or no? You don't want to lose that address like you're a Cowboy. It's different. If Dak played for Jacksonville, no one would care. CD Lamb, if he was in Cleveland, we'd be like that. Guy's pretty good. Micah Parsons, he would be different because Michael Parsons would still be a force no matter where he is. But being a cowboy, it means something more than any other franchise. As loyal as Green Bay is, as Pittsburgh is, you know, the old Raiders, there's something about being a Dallas Cowboy. Everything that goes with that, you get clicks, you get headlines, you get publicity, you get endorsements. You're a cowboy. If you can put up with that from the standpoint of everything you do is under a magnifying glass. You know, I saw Dak Prescott's building a mansion, and I saw the early stages of. Of that. Or a gender reveal with his wife or girlfriend. Like, it's all there. You know, you got Troy Aikman, who. Something said, you know, Troy that, you know, he talks about the Cowboys. It's going to be put there on the front page. Tony Romo, I mean, they got jobs. They're Cowboys. Jason Garrett got a job. Jason Whitten got a job. So you. You do have. I mean, it means something. It's like being a Laker, kind of like being a Dodger or a Yankee, but to a lesser degree. But, you know, you have that address, and if you can. If you can put up with everything that goes along with it, it's a great place to play. Yes. Right. But there's the address, and then there's everything that comes with the address. And one of those things is not rings. Yes. What you get is you're overrated because you're a cowboy. You get constant abuse from Cowboy fans. We could just look at Shay for that. There's these unbelievable expectations of greatness, despite no real recent track history of being able to accomplish that. It feels like that address is maybe a little delusional right now about what that address means. I think it's absolutely delusional because it's been 30 years. Correct. No team in any sport in the United States has gotten more publicity for doing less than Dallas. But Dallas gets more publicity than anybody. And you're living off those fumes of a different generation with the triplets there. And Jerry is built up. Build up this house. Credit that, hey, he's. He still means something, what the Cowboys mean, but they don't mean anything. If you think about it, like, they're just a curiosity, that's all. Like, I don't. What. What's the over? Under Seven and a half, Maybe eight and a half at the most. Maybe they make the playoffs this year, if all goes well. Here's another thing that's kind of lost in this, in my opinion. You have Brian Schottenheimer, who was a first time head coach. It's already tough enough to coach the Cowboys. Now we're going to, you know, give you degree of difficulty here and he's trying to establish a culture here. Well, it's hard to do that when your best player is right over there and he's not practicing. You got a quarterback who's injury prone and you paid him all that money. You got Pickens, who's going to eventually want a contract too. Like, like there's a lot of things involved in this. You know, they do some things really, really well. And then there are other things where you go, and this is where the attention to detail, I think has cost them greatly. And as somebody with the players association said to me last weekend, if you wait how many, how many months with Micah Parsons, if you know that you, you love Micah Parsons, then it's like when you say, you know, I, I don't want to get married, but I'm going to stay engaged. And then the next year we're still engaged, but I don't know if I want to get married. Well, then you're probably not going to get married or you shouldn't get married. But when you meet somebody and you say, hey, you're the person, hey, I've been with you for four years and you have performed at the highest level, then you marry him, you sign him up. But Jerry's like, I don't know, he could get hit by a car. What? What? He could. And so could you. Yes. Marvin, don't you, don't you try to draft well and get a great edge rusher so you can sign him so he can be on that team for the rest of his career? Yes. Crazy thought. That's the goal. That's the goal that you found your guy and then all of a sudden you're not quite sure. And, and I'm, I'm sure a deal will get done. You do not want to lose Micah Parsons because if you did, then lose him in April when you can take advantage of the draft and teams who would then, you know, pony up. You're not going to get equal value here from Micah Parsons. I don't think he'll be traded. It's. Jerry doesn't want to deal with Micah's agent. That's all. Jerry likes to talk to the player one on one. We'll get a deal done. And, and hey, hey, I reached, you know, but he, he's the one because he brought in his agent. Now, I don't know why, I don't know what the numbers are, but it feels like Jerry was bothered that I thought we were going to talk about this. We were going to go back and forth. We'd get a deal done. Yeah. See, that's why people have agents, so that they can do that on someone's behalf. I do like the idea, though, that Jerry's like, you know, he needs to do what's best for the team. Because you say, well, isn't what's best for the team having me on it? Yes, Dylan, I think the team's better with me playing, so maybe you should do what's best for the team. Yes. Jerry also seems like the first guy who, if you didn't have an agent in those discussions, he'd be like, oh, I'm going to capitalize on this one. Yeah. Also, Dan, for the record, eight and a half. Eight and a half wins for the Cowboys. Sounding higher and higher. Yeah, I'm. I'm going higher. Yes. Marvin, I can't wait until the opening of Thursday Night Football. Opening night Eagles celebrating their super bowl trophy. We're talking about Micah Parsons. Oh, yeah, you have to. He got signed the Tuesday before the Thursday night game. You think that's when it happens, but he's not in camp. This happened with CD Lamb. They dragged Dak Prescotts out until the first Sunday of the NFL season. And look, Jerry Jones will never come on this show, but, you know, anybody who talks to him locally, I would just want to know, tell me the business philosophy for waiting for somebody you're going to sign. I just want to know that, because if, as the Source of the NFL Players association said, you know, 8 million, you know, the difference between 34 million and 42 million, and then the following season, that's another 8 million. 8 million. So you could be paying $32 million more than you needed to over four years for Micah Parsons. I don't understand the logic unless you say we. Well, we got $32 million in publicity. Now, he probably got 100 million in publicity, thanks to ESPN. Yes, Marvin. And don't forget, Jerry almost screwed up the first dynasty when he didn't sign Emmett smith and they went.02 to start that season. Yes. Yes, Bill. I mean, that's sort of like getting like a parking ticket and just being like, I don't want to pay it right now. And then in two weeks, it's like triple the price. They're like, well, that was stupid. And, you know, I don't like leading with the Cowboys because I just, I. I won't do that to you. But in this situation, now that you have the trade request and do I still think it's going to get done? I do. I'm just kind of fascinated with the approach. These brilliant businessmen who are smart enough to make billions and then when it comes to dealing, you know, with individuals and you make moves and you go, how's this guy a billionaire again? Yes, Marvin, But Jerry doesn't think he's like the other guys. He thinks he's a football guy because he played football at Arkansas. So he's like, no, no, I'm not like the rest of them. I'm a football guy that became a billionaire. Yeah. All right, so we'll come up with a poll question today. I. It frustrates me because the Cowboys dominate the headlines when there's really no news. And so now you have them front and center and it just gets to the point where you go, I'm going to bang my head against the wall. It'll get done. Now there's part of me hoping it doesn't get done like I want. Give me some chaos here. Send him to the Chicago Bears. All right, now we got something to talk about. But go back. Jerry and Micah hold a joint press conference. And Jerry talk about, you know, Micah and I love him like a son. And, you know, hey, you know, Jerry's tough. He's tough negotiator. Yes, he is happy to be accountant. Like, I been doing this 40 years. Oh, not much longer, though. All right, good. Take a break. We're just getting started on this Monday and morale is high. Yes, Marvin, only a couple more off seasons. If you talking Cowboys. I know. 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Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13 my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Spend a lot of time, maybe too much time in the first hour talking about the Cowboys, but can you ever really talk too much about the Cowboys? Todd Archer does that for a living. He gets to cover the Cowboys. He's been doing that since 2003. NFL reporter since 1997. Good to have you back on the show, Todd. Why is this different with Micah Parsons than maybe other holdouts contract situations? In the time I've been covering this team, I don't remember a player ever making a trade request in and I asked people who've been around longer than me if they remember one even early in Jerry's time or even going back to Landry, and no one could really think of one. So that's what makes this different. Not in Jerry's mind obviously, because he says to the Cowboys fans, don't lose any sleep over it and is this is all part of the negotiation? I don't know if Mike is losing any sleep over it, but you could see on his face as he was watching practice really not engaged at all for the first time that he's pretty frustrated and discouraged by this thing. But Jerry is going to sign him, right? I mean, tell me, tell me the last time a Cowboy star player has not signed that Jerry is not kept. It took Emmett missing two games and the Cowboys going 02 and 93 for for that deal to get done. We know the DAC deals have taken time here. The last couple negotiations that Dak has had, we saw CD Lamb's negotiation take through the almost the end of August last year. But again, none of those guys said I don't want to be here anymore. None of those guys claimed talked about the repeated shots that they feel the organization is taking against them. That's what makes this different and that's what makes it different in my mind from even Miles Garrett's trade request from Cleveland back in February. It was, it never said anything about the organization itself other than I want to win a Super bowl. Thirty something. Days later he resigned with the Browns. But I'm just trying to understand the logic of this, the business side of this and I'm sure you guys have had the opportunity to ask Jerry, tell us how it makes sense waiting longer than signing. He could have signed Micah Parsons up in February when Miles Garrett signed his deal or prior to tg. I mean, he could have saved a lot of money here. He could have done that with Dak. I don't. Maybe CD as well. But, you know, here we are again with Micah. But I just don't understand the business philosophy with that. So there's a couple of elements to that. One, and I think one that we often forget in the media is that the player waits, too. Dak knew by waiting on both of his recent contract negotiations that he would make more. He didn't. You go back to the first contract that he signed. They offered him what Jared Goff. And gosh, I forget the other quarterback in Philadelphia that Carson Wentz. And he passed on it knowing that something better down the road was going to come. And it did. And he. And he waited on this one. And CD Lam was not going to sign a contract until Justin Jefferson's deal got done. Now, did it take that late the lag time to get that deal done with CD No. And should it be this hard to get something done with Mike? And no, but Jerry does not view this as a way of, oh, I just took away $2 million in cap space on this year. So no, I can't get this player. He just doesn't. We, we can throw the numbers and the math at him and. But he can, oh, he always believes that if I want to get a guy, however good he is, I can create the cap space on any of these deals and go get a guy. But again, the Cowboys don't view free agency the way some teams do where they go sign big name guys. So he just does not think it's that big of a deal. Talking to Todd Archer, ESPN NFL Nation reporter, he's been covering the Cowboys since 2003. The bigger picture question is how good is this team in a division where you're the third best team right now in your own division? I think they'll be better than people think. You have a rookie head coach, so there'll be some growing pains there with Brian Schottenheimer. But when Dak has been healthy and played a full season, the Cowboys have been a playoff team and or a playoff contender. Granted, they've not gone to an NFC title game, not going to super bowl, all that stuff. But when Dak has been healthy, they've played well. Now Micah, if he misses games, all that stuff, everything changes a little bit. But there's also an element. If is Micah not going to play? Is he not going to earn $21 million this year? Like so? Eventually he will have to get on the field. And I would also point out that in the Cowboys mind, they've gone through this. They had a franchise. Dak Prescott, he played out his contract. They had a franchise to Marcus Lawrence, he played out his contract. And that's what Jerry was essentially saying to us on Saturday was he has under contract. We've seen guys play their last years before, and he believes if they don't get a deal, that's what will happen again. And the Cowboys can use the franchise tag on. On Micah in 2026, 2027, and even 2028 if they don't get a deal, if they want to go that route. Does Jerry can talk about this again? Dan, it'd be great. Just how important is winning to Jerry? That's a great question. And he'll always say it's at the top of the mind. It's been, if this is the 30th year without a Super bowl, we'll see what happens this year. But I think there are people that will say the Cowboys enjoy the limelight, enjoy the cash, enjoy being the most notorious team in the league, maybe more than winning. And that plays into Jerry's mindset sometimes. I think he wants to win. I don't think there's a question of that. I think he wants to win his way. They should do a 30 for 30 this year as the 30th anniversary of the Cowboys and look back on these 30 years or the previous 29 years of what went right, what went wrong, all the different movements and coaches, and I don't even know if Brian Schottenheimer can be a head coach. I mean, you're also putting a rookie coach in this situation. And there's a lot of things that just feels like we're not even looking at the bigger picture of the Cowboys when they get on the football field. It's all this ancillary stuff, right? And that's the issue, right, that the focus is away from the field, away from football, that football isn't always the most important thing when it should be. I asked Brian Schottenheimer if he ever feels caught in the middle during these situations, and he said, no. I'm a guy who can see both sides, see all the angles, and I'll communicate to Jerry and Steven and I'll communicate to Micah and the players. And so far, he's. He's handled it well. He's Obviously, the son of a longtime head coach has seen a lot of things in his time as an assistant coach. Seeing a lot of things when he was growing up. There's nothing like the Cowboys though. Have fun, Todd. I'll try. Thanks. Todd Archer ESPN NFL Nation reporter Govern the Cowboys since 2003 yeah, the bigger picture is, are they any good? Dylan, who's in for Paul today? I told you to check DraftKings odds of what are the odds of the Cowboys winning a playoff game. So they don't have that specifically, but they have some similar ones. So to miss the playoffs, their mind's 220. Okay. Not a lot of hope there. To lose in the wild card round plus 400. That's a pretty good bet if they do make the playoffs. Okay. Historically speaking, to losing the divisional round plus 800 to lose in the conference championship game plus 2000. And then if you really want to waste some money to losing the Super bowl plus 4,500 and to win the Super bowl plus plus 5,000. All right, Tom in North Carolina. Hi, Tom. What's on your mind today? Hey, D.P. i was listening to that sound bite from Jerry Jones's comments about Micah Parsons and he did say, you know, when you're guaranteeing around 200 million, so I mean, if you're doing the math, it's, you know, that's a little bit less. It's a five year extension, but it's a little bit less than TJ Watt. So I'm wondering, do you think Micah's deal is going to be all guaranteed money, around 200 million? I don't know, but it feels like if I'm Micah Parsons agent, that's what I want. Miles Garrett got four years, 160. Max Crosby three years, 106.5. T.J. watt three years, 123. Parsons set to make 21.3 million on the fifth year option here. I mean, you could always, you know, continue to push this a little bit and see if Dak is willing to give up $21 million. Everybody who thinks about, hey, he should sit out. They should all go back to Leon Bell, hey, you sit out from the Steelers. How did that go? Yes, the jets were dumb enough to give you some money, but you don't make up that money. And it was, I don't know, might have been $15 million. But Micah Parsons isn't going to lose $21 million. And Jerry knows if they're going to make the playoffs if, if they're going to have any hope this year. You got to have Micah Parsons in there. Yeah. Dylan demanding a trade seems like a much better strategy than holding out for the like, same end result ultimately, but without any real downside. Well, he's holding in and he doesn't. He doesn't want to leave the Cowboys now. I don't believe that for a second. Once again, this is part of negotiations. It feels like now Terry McLaurin. I don't know how that plays out. And that's a really big deal as well. It's just not going to get the attention because he plays for the Commanders. Dylan in Maine. Hi, Dylan. What's on your mind today? Hey, D.P. i'm just want to tell you about a great golf course in Maine. I know you have a home here. It's the Tanis Golf Course in bassett boro. It's 36 holes. It's a great course. But I wanted to talk about like, Steven Jones. Seems like he doesn't get any of the blame at all. And he's not really a young guy and he needs to step up to his dad and be like, you need to like, stop Jerry. I don't know if that's gonna happen. Steven doesn't get any credit or any blame because it doesn't feel like he's really involved in the decision making. I'm assuming he is, but. But Jerry takes the air out of the room. This is about Jerry Jones. He didn't want to share anything. Poppy in Rochester. Hi, Poppy. What's on your mind? I did. First time, long time. I disagree with everything. You guys criticized Tom Brady not as Tom Brady, but his involvement in soccer. Okay. The European champions PHG from France are owned by oil people. Liverpool, one of the greatest things in the world, is owned by the Red Sox people. The Manchester United is owned by the Tampa Bay people. It isn't how much you know, Chelsea is owned by the LA Dodgers people. I was at the club World cup final at Giants Stadium. 81,000, you know, but what I disagree. What your comments made you guys said was that how much Tom Brady knows about soccer, it's not how much you know, it's the money that talks. He has the money, puts advice at the club, he'll put the best people that know the business and they're going to have a successful operation. Well, he doesn't have the money anywhere near the money of these other people you're talking about. And I don't know if, you know, the Glazer family allowed people to follow them. And they go, we don't know anything about soccer. But once that, once we build up this team, we're going to sell, like, his PR approach to this is what we're commenting on. So thank you for the phone call. Yeah, I think Poppy said it in there because I think everything that he says is right. He said, you put the best people in place to make the decisions. Well, the way that this is being presented is that we're making the decisions. We're the guys that know how to win. Tom is the guy who's gonna. We need a new coach because this coach isn't the right one. How the hell does he know that? They're trying to run over tactics with him at one point. And, like, you know, it's very clear. It's like, also, this guy needs to stand over here. Okay, got it. Like, it just doesn't. It's really not translating. He's really not connecting with the material at all. I think that it's. The more about. It has nothing to do with money. It's more about the way it's being presented as this hands on approach to their ownership. That seems wrong. Yeah. And if you look at Wrexham, you know, Rob and Ryan, they never said they knew soccer. There's actually a moment in the. In one of the episodes when it's the Wrexham Birmingham game where they're all talking about their experiences. Like, yeah, so we own Wrexham. Yeah, we own Birmingham. And they're like, oh, yeah, we're down in the locker room all the time. And like, Rob is like, really? Oh, no, no, we don't do that. No, like, well, we'll be in there and be like, hey, guys, all right, what's up? Like, do what you do. We're going to go watch. But we're very hands off because we don't know anything about the. And that should be the approach of Tom is. Is be one of the silent owners in there. But you can be there for your team and your community. But if you don't know soccer, then you hire people who do know soccer. Yes, Marvin, that's the funny thing. You say the same thing about NFL owners. Yeah. It's the guy who gets too involved where we go, will you just be an owner? Just. Just be an owner. It's when they go, you know, I'm going to make this draft pick. Wait, what? No, no, we don't want Johnny Manziel. Yes, we do. No, no, we don't. No. Okay. All right. We won't take it. Yes. Dylan, there's an episode, you know that show, the studio. Yeah. 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Yes, that would be no. Oh, they're only getting. They're getting 14 of the vote right now saying that yes, it is a good place to play. Wow. What other. That's a big number. Yes, that's a big. I thought it would be way closer than that. Yeah. Especially, like, I don't know, given our audience, I thought there would be a little more respect for the team that way. But do you think that that's just recency bias, or do you think that's how far the Cowboys have fallen in terms of reputation? Well, the number of people who hate the Cowboys probably voted as well, and they're not a very good team. So I guess if you factor all that in, I still think that address means something. And I look at it differently. You're. You're just, you're more famous. I mean, Micah Parsons has a podcast because he's on the Cowboys. You know, it's like Draymond Green. Nobody would care if he played in Atlanta, but he's with Golden State and he has a pod. You know, it just feels like there's certain addresses that mean a little bit more. Yes, Dylan? Well, I also, I mean, based on our caller earlier, too, a lot of those votes against playing there might be from Cowboys fans themselves, too. They don't exactly seem like thrilled on that joint at the moment. Over under is eight and a half wins for the Cowboys this year. Let's bring in the freshly minted hall of Famer, winner of Pro Football hall of Fame Pete Roselle, Radio, TV award. He's Brent Musburger. Do you feel any different after this weekend? You know, it's, it was such an honor, Dan, and I owe you so much appreciation because I wasn't even thinking about it until you and Jim Nance brought it up and then Dick Vermeil kind of carried the ball from there. And so I owe so much to everybody. It was a. It was a wonderful weekend. And I, I have to say that I was shocked when Jane Kennedy was brought in to introduce me. Okay. At the banquet that night. Completely unexpected. And of course, he, along with Phyllis George, worked on the NFL today at erCross and Jimmy the Greek. Jane's got a. Got a book out called Plain Jane, and she's a great story. I, I recommend that for. But then I want to compliment the city of Canton, Ohio. You know, this is their biggest weekend. People were so nice and the committee and, oh, by the way, I had at least two people mention Dan Patrick needs to bring his show into Canton for the hall of Fame. Okay. They came, they came right to me and I said, listen, I'll mention it, Dan, because there are. We had over 100 hall of Famers show up. So, yes, I so appreciate the honor and so does the family. But I was a kid in a candy store when they started introducing all these guys that I had covered. Dan Fouts did a fantastic job. They bring him out to a stage and then they set a couple of rows on either side and they bring out the new hall of Famers. And, you know, the four guys who were inducted this year had such great stories when they came out. I'll start with Sterling Sharp. He was the only one of the four, by the way. It was a first round draft choice. Okay. By the Green Bay Packers. And then it was so heartwarming when. When he and Shannon hugged each other up on the stage. Shannon presented him with the gold jacket first, first brothers to make the Pro Football hall of Fame. And I couldn't resist. I got over to Sterling, I whispered in his ear, eli Manning will never forgive you. They beat Eli to the punch there going into the whole thing. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know why it took so long. And maybe you're not the right person to ask this, but you're in. You're a Hall of Famer, and I'm very happy. And a lot of this, just like with John Fasenda, he was the voice of the NFL. And I just said, don't forget about who helped us get here to a multi, multi, billion dollar organization company. And I'm glad you got to experience that. You know, I wish that Irv Cross had been around, you know, Jimmy the Great, you know, people that you were with when you did the first pregame show. Did any idea if that was how successful that was going to be when you started Well, I like the idea that we were going live. Remember now, the pregame show on CBS prior to the NFL Today had been called Countdown to Kickoff. Pat Summerall and Jack Whitaker, they taped it on Friday night. Friday night. Okay. And it was Bob Wessler's idea. Let's do this live. And then the halftimes and the, and the post game, there was, I felt, sort of an immediate impact, especially when Mike Wallace strolled in about week number four. And you guys are doing great. Yeah. Because I always said, coming up next is 60min. You know what I'm saying? What is your favorite moment though, or story that if you know all the years. Well, you know, let me go to the night that Jimmy the Greek and I had our little fisticuffs in a New York saloon. Okay, Let me tell everybody. Jimmy objected to the fact that he thought I cut him short. Everybody's got to remember we only had about 28 minutes of airtime. So I had to dish it out to everybody. Okay? So I was living in Los Angeles at the time, actually, I was working with Connie Chung on the news in la. And then I'd fly in for the NFL today. So I got a call the morning after I returned to la. We're gonna fire the Greek. We're gonna get rid of it. I said, hey, hold on, let me get back to you a little bit. And I went back, I talked to my wife, Arlene. I said, you know, Arlene, I don't want the Greeks blood on my hands because we had an incident. I mean, we're very close, like brothers. So I thought about calling back and I said, please don't fire the Greek. We'll find a way. Okay? So we knew Bob Arum, the boxing guy, really well, and he got us a bell and a couple pair of boxing gloves. And we opened up the next week and made light of it. And life went on from there. So, you know, it's the people, Dan. I just loved working with the people that we had. Phyllis left us for a while because she thought she was going to become an Oscar winning movie star. And Jane Kennedy was brought in after that. And it was such a delight. Jane was loved by the players when she would go out for the interviews. And then Phyllis came back a little bit later. Things didn't quite work out in Hollywood, but it was the people that I dealt with that I loved who got the better of the fight. Well, the Greek hit me in the side, you know, it wasn't a very tough blow. My brother might have got the best of it, but the smartest guy in the bar was the bartender, and he turned the lights off, okay. And so nobody could see anybody. Okay. So it kind of calmed down. Okay now. But what happened was I was at a table when the Greek came in, but sitting at the bar was a guy who worked on the city desk of the New York Post. And he ran back and of course, bada bang, you know, there's the picture of the great confederacy, you know, off, off, off we go. If he hadn't been in there having a cold one, okay, between shifts, I don't think anybody would have known about it, to tell you the truth. But, yeah, it was. It was on in an instant and over in an instant. Well, I'm happy for you. I'm proud of you. You helped put it in my head that I could do this, or they had jobs like this when I was growing up, but happy in any role that we possibly played. But that was more of just to remind people the greatness of Brent Musburger. So thank you. I hope it was everything that you hoped for this weekend. It was. And, Dan, thanks to you. Thank you so much. That's the hall of Famer, Brent Musburger, 2025 Pro Football hall of Fame inductee. And I was thinking about this weekend and. And once again, Brent did all the work. Sometimes you have to remind people of those who came before us. Kurt Flood is not in the Baseball hall of Fame. Kurt Flood is the reason why you have the salaries that we have. He challenged Major League Baseball. It cost him, but he was willing to sit out because he didn't think that he should be treated like a piece of property. And Kurt Flood was one of the great defensive outfielders, played for a World Series champion. He was a very good player. But I started to think about the contributions to the game, and I love that aspect. With hall of Fames just like John Fasenda and Brent Musburger and so many different people in certain halls of fame that they contributed to the growth of the game. Curt Flood is one of the most. Oh, boy, I'm. I. I don't even know if there's word or words courageous to. To take on Major League Baseball and say, no, you don't own my rights after I'm done with your team or done playing like, it just felt like he said, I'm not a piece of meat here. But when you think about the importance, why isn't he in the Baseball hall of Fame as a contributor? Like Buck o' Neill played in the Negro Leagues, and Buck lived Long enough to be able to tell everybody about these great players who played in the Negro Leagues so they could get into the hall of Fame. And I said to somebody with the Baseball hall of Fame, I said, buck o' Neill is a Hall of Famer. He was a very good player, but contributions to the game. Buck o' Neill was the one who was there with eulogies, your career eulogy. He was telling everybody about these players so they could get into the hall of Fame. Those who didn't get to see those in the Negro Leagues, I said, that's contributions to the game. Kurt Flood deserves to be in the Baseball hall of Fame. It's in the Cardinals hall of Fame, I believe. But he. Kurt Flood, he wasn't afraid. He took on the system. Yeah, Marvin. So is Kurt Flood on the same level as Sonny Vaccaro to you? No different. Sonny Vaccaro should be in the Basketball hall of Fame. But Kurt Flood, what he did that was for all of the players to be treated differently. Sonny just found a loophole and said, hey, I can sell shoes and make money for the coaches, make money, you know, for the players. You know, that was business. But he contributed to the game. And signing Michael Jordan and signing Kobe Bryant and almost signed LeBron James. You know, he. He was involved in the. The movers and shakers, but different. But contributions to the. Kurt Flood truly contributed to the game. I mean, you would not. Sh. Otani may not have any idea who Kurt Flood is, but he should, and I would hope maybe baseball can rectify that and put him into the Baseball hall of Fame. And I. And I've gotten on this kick as I get older, and. And really, my time of doing this job is diminishing. But Barry Melrose in the Hockey hall of Fame, Don Cherry in the. In the. In the Hockey hall of Fame. Sonny Vaccaro in the Basketball hall of Fame, Mel Kuiper in the Pro Football hall of Fame, Kurt Flood in the Baseball hall of Fame. To me, these are no brainers. And I. I don't envy those who vote on the hall of Fame. I just want to remind you and any of you voters that ever want to talk about why I think this way or if I can add any kind of backdrop, I'll be more than happy to do it. And I don't have any other interest in it than telling the correct story and doing the right things for these people. But Kurt Flood should be in the Baseball hall of Fame as a contributor. Maybe you don't, you know, put him in there as a player I understand that, but contributions to the game. And if you're not familiar with Curt Flood, please google him and understand what he did. 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