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Rich Eisen
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Dan Patrick
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Rich Eisen
Albert Brer is the Monday Morning Quarterback, senior NFL reporter, and he joins us now. Albert, I was curious about when the NFL is building its schedule. How Long is this process? And how do you start? How do you finish?
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Albert Breer
Well, first of all, happy 40th birthday, Dan.
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Rich Eisen
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah,
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Albert Breer
it actually starts like the minute the regular season ends, because at that point, of course, we know who's playing who. And, and, you know, this has changed over the years. I remember when I first started doing this story, and, you know, Peter King did it at such a high level for so many years and covering all of this, but it almost seemed like at first it was like, you know, when I first started doing this, it was sort of like a tournament almost the way that they would narrow it and narrow it and narrow it, and it's not really that way anymore. They run like a hard to calculate number of combinations through their computers and through, you know, what they do with AWS and, you know, I, I, what they wind up with, they spit out about 6,000 what they would call playable schedules, right? Like, based on all the filters they have it and everything else. And then, you know, from those 6,000, they narrow that down and they find what they call the leader. And then over the last couple of weeks, you know, the leader is pitted against other schedules where they actually go through it, like by hand and compare one to the next and can you beat the leader? And the leader usually gets. The leader might get knocked off and then some. Another schedule becomes the leader. Now you try to beat that one until you come up with what you, what you end up with, which was, you know, Tuesday afternoon, I believe it was. They had the final, final edition that they had.
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Rich Eisen
But how do you keep score of. You got a leader in the clubhouse and then a. How does another schedule get better than the one that you think is going to be the leader?
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Albert Breer
Well, I think it's like, you know, you go through it and then you troublesh like, okay, like, here are five issues because none of us can be perfect, right? So here are five issues that we have with this schedule. And is there one that could solve those issues? And then, you know, it's like, all right, well, those five issues are solved, but now there are seven issues over here, you know, So I think they try to get it to the point where there are enough. Where there are. There, there, there. It's perfect enough, I guess, is the way to put it and look like. I think the huge part of this, as you know, is like, how they've, you know, like how many demands they have from their partners now from the networks, from the streaming partners. Like, I try to explain this to people, you know, I think if you go back 15 or 20 years, there were tiers to how much these were. These cost the networks. Right. So in other words, like, ESPN was paying X amount less for Monday Night Football than what, you know, NBC was playing paying for Sunday Night Football. So it's very easy for the NFL to go to ESPN and say, well, you know, NBC is paying this much more than you are. So, you know, tough, you know, like you're going to get a worse schedule now. I'd say, you know, especially at the latest, you know, rounds of negotiations, those numbers are closer and everybody's paying an astronomical amount to broadcast these games and you want them to keep paying that amount. So, like, they're trying to keep everybody happy and there's more equity, I think, across the board, which is why they've turned every game into a free agent, which is why they're more, you know, like, they put like a higher level of demands on teams. Like, I don't know if you saw the RAM schedule, but it is a gauntlet when it comes to travel and short weeks and all that different stuff. You know, it's why, like, if you look at it now, and this is, I mean, you remember there was a time, Dan, when everybody played at least one primetime game. Well, now there are more prime time games, but there are more teams maxing out, too. There are eight teams, and I can name them, I could pull them up here. There are eight teams that, Matt, that are playing either six or seven primetime games. I guess these would be the marquee teams. Right. And those eight are the Cowboys, Eagles, Bears, Packers, Seahawks, Bills, Chiefs and Rams. Meanwhile, there are five teams, the Jets, Titans, Raiders, Cardinals and Dolphins that aren't playing any primetime games as well. So, like, the rules of engagement here have changed. And, you know, I think as.
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Rich Eisen
But if Arch Manning is with the Raiders. Yeah. This year the Raiders have a primetime game.
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Albert Breer
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Rich Eisen
But Fernando Mendoza is not going to get it. We don't know when he's going to
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Albert Breer
play, you know, what he's going to play. Yeah, right. Like, so if you're going to put them in a primetime window, you might do it later in the year and you can always flex and that sort of thing. But yeah, I mean, it's, it's, you know, 100%. That's a huge part of it, you know. You know, like, I think it's just, it's the curb appeal of each of these teams and it's, it's not like necessarily getting you or I, because we're probably going to Be sitting there on the couch anyway, watching the games. You know, it's. It's. How do you get, like, the casual fit, the more casual fan engaged, and, you know, a lot of times the teams that are further down the line, that are worse teams, you know, like, you have to have something that you can kind of wrap your arms around from a storyline perspective. And, you know, those five teams, like, I, you know, you can see where the storylines are sort of lacking with those.
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Rich Eisen
Would you have opened up with Seattle facing New England in a Super bowl rematch?
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Albert Breer
I. This is an interesting question because I think you do. Like, I, I've gotten a lot of questions over the last 24 hours on, like, how much the variable storyline has to do with this. I, I actually think it. It might. Now, I asked Han Schroeder, who's, you know, the head of broadcasting in the NFL about this yesterday, and he said it didn't. But if you want to be a cynic about this.
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Rich Eisen
Yeah, I don't think they would be honest with you on that, Albert.
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I mean, I don't either. And if you want to be a cynic about it, like, like, it's like the same thing with the Super Bowl. You know, you got everybody bitching and moaning out who the halftime show is every year. Again, that's not about, like, the football fan. That's about pulling in the casual viewer. And I think, you know, if you put Mike Frable in the. The.
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Dan Patrick
The.
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Albert Breer
The. In that Wednesday night slot, there might be some curiosity from people like that don't really follow the league like you or I do, that are like, oh, yeah, like, I remember that story back in May and June. Maybe I won't go out for that hike, you know, this afternoon. Maybe I will sit down and watch football this afternoon because I want to see. I want, like, an update on where. Where things are with that guy that I was paying so much attention to and my social media was plastered with through, you know, April and May. If you want to be a cynic, you could look at it that way where you could say, okay, if it was the Patriots or the Bears, like, the Patriots might have more appeal to the casual fan because of the tabloid nature of the story that we've all been, you know, like, it seems like America's been locked in on over the last month or so. You know, I personally think from a football perspective, the Bears might have been the more interesting team. It's a bigger market, you know, and I agree. Caleb. There's, like, more curiosity with Caleb Williams that The super bowl wasn't very competitive. So do you want to see that again? You know, I think from a pure football perspective, Chicago might have actually made more sense, but as we all know, it's, it's bigger than just that.
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Rich Eisen
I am curious about Football night in America. Somebody is going to do a sit down with Mike Vrabel, I'm going to guess, getting ready to show you that game. I'm curious how much of this off the field, the Diana Rossini portion of this Mike Brable story can come up in an interview that is maybe not football related. It's almost football adjacent. So can you, if you send Jason Garrett to do a sit down, you know, one on one.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Rich Eisen
What can you ask that would be pertinent to the actual game itself, while also acknowledging that this has to have been a distraction. This.
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Albert Breer
Right.
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Rich Eisen
You know, he, he left the last day of the draft to go to counseling. So I, I, how do you make it a sports story?
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Albert Breer
So if I was on the other end, if I was sitting across from him in that setting, and I'm Jason Garrett or I'm Rodney Harrison or whoever else, first of all, I think part of it is relative to whether or not he's done the, whatever you want to call it, the Today show interview between now and then. Right. Because if he has actually sat down and addressed it in full, it'd be easier for you, if you're NBC, to just say, well, we've all moved on from that. He's addressed it. If he hasn't addressed it by then, then I think it becomes the elephant in the room if you don't address it right. Like, because if it's still sitting out there as something that hasn't been, you know, fully vetted or gone through in that sort of setting, and you're the first one to get them one on one since this has happened, then I think it becomes the elephant in the room if you don't address it, you know, So I think, like, just from, you know, having been in those sorts of seats before and, you know, interviewing people in these sorts of settings, it does, part of it does ride on how much of the, the, the, the subject matter has already been covered, you know, and then I think the other piece of it is just kind of like, you know, you, you, if you want to keep it in a football context, like, the football context of it is relatively easy. Like, how does this affect, you know, the way that you did your job in April and May and June, and how did it affect your relationship with your Players. And you've preached about, you know, about family and welcomed so many people's, you know, spouses and children into the building and you've made it like, has this in any way affected your ability to do that? Like, I, I think that there are, there are fair questions and look, like Mike's a logical guy. Mike's a really smart guy. I think Mike deep down is a really good, really good guy. You know, I really believe that. I've known him since he was a player. Like, I, I think, I think it's, he's a really good human being, you know, like, at his core, I think he understands that this sort of question is going to come, you know, and I think he's smart enough to navigate it and, you know, if we could all be grown ups about it, like, I think he would answer questions on it. Now that's just me talking, but like, you know, I think as long as it wouldn't adversely affect the other people in his life, which is the wild card in all this. How does this affect his wife? How does this affect his sons? I think, you know, he would be, I like, I like, I'd imagine, like, you know, he would, he would, he would take the questions and I don't like. And I think he understands the way all this works. He's again, like, he's been in the public eye for so long, for more than half of his life. I think he, he, he kind of, he kind of gets the rules of engagement here.
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Rich Eisen
Talking to Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback. How close are we to. Every team will have an international game?
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Albert Breer
You mean every year? Yeah, as soon as we get 18 games, I think it happens.
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Rich Eisen
Okay, and when is 18 games happening?
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Albert Breer
Well, I mean, like there's still that thing hanging out there that there's no date for the super bowl after the 2027 season in Atlanta, you know, like, so I like that to me, has been sort of the, the smoking gun on what their plans are for a long time now. You know, the NFLPA has new leadership, JC Treaders in as the executive director. What's his stance on 18 games? They haven't been that public about it yet. They let their, let their feelings have been known on other subjects like the grass versus turf debate and all that. So you got to figure all of that out. You know, I, I did, I did ask Peter O'Reilly, who's the, you know, head of events for the NFL a month or two ago, like, when you actually have to set the date for that Atlanta Super bowl and he said you would have to set it like before the start of the season, before that super bowl year. So that would be the start of this season. So you can, you, can you, can you move fast enough now to get something in place, an agreement in place for the 27 season? I think we're that close of where the owners want to do it. Whether or not they can pull it off that fast, they can't make that decision unilaterally. So it's gonna, a lot of it's gonna come down to the players of cooperation. But I will say this, like, I think when they go to 18 games, I think we're talking about a 16 game schedule of international. And I think then the rhythm becomes for teams that you play internationally once a year and one year that means nine home games, eight road games and a neutral site. And then the following year, eight home games, nine road games and a neutral site.
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Rich Eisen
Are there any more live windows for the NFL to go after?
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Albert Breer
That's a good question.
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Rich Eisen
I mean, I mean, Friday nights off limits because of high school football, as
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Albert Breer
a high school football. Right. And then Saturday is off limits because of college football and the rules there. And I think they should respect those, by the way. You know, I mean, like, Netflix has kind of like created this, like, events package almost, I think is what they would refer to it as, where they have a week one game, a week 18 game, two on Christmas and one on Thanksgiving Eve. I just don't know what the holiday would be outside of what they've already covered, you know what I mean? And I think you see like, the breaking point where they need more inventory. I had to look at the master schedule yesterday morning. And so I'm going through it, trying to digest as much as I can. And what was really jarring to me, Dan, was looking at week 16. And in week 16, which is the Christmas week, they have a Christmas Eve game, three Christmas day games, two Saturday games, a Monday game, a Sunday night game. And so that Sunday afternoon window, CBS had two games in the early window, Fox had two games in the early windowSew, and then they had one apiece in the late window, and that was it. And two games are going to fall out from the Saturday cluster, so it'll be a little more than that. But this, I think it shows why they won 18 games because they want more inventory. But it also shows there may be a little bit of a breaking point as far as, like, do we still respect Sunday as like, what you and I grew up watching was like, this is like massive buffet of football, you know, on Sunday at 1 o' clock and 4 o'.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Clock.
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Albert Breer
I love that, you know what I mean? So I'd hate to see that go away. So it's just gonna be interesting to see the way that that's handled. I just don't know where the extra windows would be. Maybe it's Labor Day and they, they, they, they, they go in on Labor Day and try to turn that into a big kickoff weekend. If they don't want to move the super bowl even further back and they do want to end the day, they do want to have the second bye week. That would be one, one, one area I could see them going in. I'm not sure where the next broadcast window is, but if it's out there, I guarantee you that they're going to find it.
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Rich Eisen
Thank you, Albert. Have a great weekend.
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Albert Breer
Awesome. Thanks, D.P.
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Rich Eisen
happy birthday, Albert Brear. They like to call him Bert.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
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Rich Eisen
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Dan Patrick
Well, please, if I may, from my heart, Happy birthday to you. My only gift is my presence. I don't know that that's much of a present, but thank you and happy birthday from Philly. It's, it's, it is carnage out here, man. I am shocked. It is so much more difficult than we thought it would be. It's much windier than I think anyone projected. The whole locations are tough. Guys are backing up. Great scene. It's the sports fans in the Philadelphia area are phenomenal. They're coming out and I think throughout the weekend it'll only get, you know, more crowded and more voluminous. But right now it is a struggle for the best in the world.
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Rich Eisen
Give me your dream matchup on Sunday. What would you hope to see?
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Dan Patrick
I mean when Scotty's in the mix, I think he's, he's the, he's the, the yardstick at the moment. And anyone from that, from that zip code, I mean it's hard to say Rory now just because he's so far out of it after yesterday. Although if he shoots a couple under, he's still in the mix. But I mean look, Scotty, Rory, it'd be fun just because we've really never seen it Dan, at this point. And that's the thing about golf. You know, for years we tried to manufacture man, how cool would it be if Tiger and Phil, well, there's 156 guys out here and there's four days of your life and it's all got a funnel correctly. But Scotty against any world class player would be fun. Just because Scotty's been so consistently brilliant,
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Rich Eisen
do you think, or what has to happen for us to root for Scotty to see his greatness the way we did? Tiger.
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Dan Patrick
Totally different people, right? I mean it's, it's not, it's not LeBron and Jordan because those are different eras. And I guess, look, Tiger and Scotty are different eras as well. But Tiger, Tiger made people feel and there was an electricity to him. There is a completely different feeling with Scotty. He's not emotionless, but he doesn't outwardly show it a lot. And so I think that the respect for Scotty's greatness, I don't know how you could withhold it at this point, but I don't know that he plays in a way that moves people to feel passionately about. Man, I can't wait to watch it. I thought Paul McGinley of the Golf Channel did an awesome job last night of describing Scotty's first round about the technical brilliance of it. Well, he shot 67 and he just thought his way around the golf course. You know, Tiger felt like he forever had that one shot, right, Dan, that would just make you jump up out of your seat. And I guess Scheffler doesn't do that quite as much. But I would just say that really comparing anyone to Tiger is kind of a fool's errand because he's, he's singular. You know, he's. He's the only one of him that we're likely to ever see in our life.
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Rich Eisen
Scheffler is like Pete Sampras in tennis.
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Dan Patrick
Perfectly said. Yeah, perfectly said. And, and, and, and, you know, Pete was an all time great, but I mean, did he move people in the same way that maybe a Federer did? Probably not.
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Rich Eisen
I think DeChambeau, if he had Scheffler's success and was playing on tour, Scheffler moves The needle or DeChambeau moves the needle. From the standpoint of you're like, oh, wow. And he's got personality attached to that as well. I just don't know if we're going to see that anytime soon. Certainly not seeing it this weekend there. But like his Future on the PGA Tour is what, in your opinion for DeChambeau?
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Dan Patrick
I don't know. I mean, the suggestion that he could go be a YouTube player and then just show up and play in the majors, I mean, I don't. That's just not a realistic thought. You have to, you have to be competitive, competitively sharp to come out here and play the hardest courses in the world against the best players in the world. And you know, you referenced DeChambeau. We saw, I think, the height of his popularity when he won at Pinehurst. And that was an immensely popular victory. And he hit a shot of a lifetime to beat Rory there. And you know, that, that to me was sort of his peak moment of power. And you could do that, be an influencer, be a YouTube player, and I'm sure you could monetize that and make a pile. But ultimately you you, you make your bones in this game and your legend in this game being a major championship player. And, you know, he got off to a horrific start, didn't play well at the Masters and missed the cut there with a, with a triple on the last, on Friday. So, you know, I think for your popularity to continue to ascend or at least maintain its place, you get, you need to be part of the weekend story in the biggest tournaments of the year.
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Rich Eisen
I also wonder and watching the coverage yesterday with these greens that there are fast greens and then there are greens that are punishing, and these are, you know, I, we've played Augusta, and yes, those are challenging greens. They're nothing like some of these other courses around the world. If they really want to dress it up and say, you're going to be three under and win, Augusta doesn't want the Masters, doesn't want three under. They want birdies and eagles and roars this the US Open. Like they, they want to humble you a little bit here.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, but I, I'm, I'm shocked, I mean, legitimately shocked, because for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I wander around out here with these, you know, the best in the world, which is, it's so much fun, right? You get to see them and how they're going to play this golf course. And they had driver wedge into these greens, and I thought, yeah, the greens are really, really challenging, and they could put the whole locations in spots that would make it very difficult. But I thought low was, was. So did everybody else. All the players, all the folks you talk to on the range are like, yeah, this is mid teens or, you know, literally like 15 under is going to win. Well, they, the wind has blown and they have put the whole location through two days in some spots that are incredibly difficult. So it feels more like, look, the weather feels like the Open Championship. The, the, the, the leaderboard looks like a US Open. And normally in the pga, you see them go lower. Now the weather could change, it could get warmer, and they could give them some more accessible hole locations. And I would think the PGA of America would, because I don't think they want to see, you know, the best in the world that are really not able to hit shots that are rewarded.
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Rich Eisen
That's.
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Dan Patrick
I don't know who wants to see that.
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Rich Eisen
Yeah, I always get that when somebody says, boy, I like to see them struggle like we do. And I go, I don't like watching you play. So why would I want to see the great golfers play like that?
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Dan Patrick
Right? And the thing about that, Dan, you know the 6 or the 10 or the 18 handicapper that wants to sit down, down, pop a beer on the couch and I want to see Scotty Scheffler shoot 78. Buddy, if you played out here, you'd shoot 150, I promise you.
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Rich Eisen
Thanks for making some time. I know that you guys are going to start at noon eastern. Thank you again, Scotty. Have a good weekend.
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Dan Patrick
Sincerely, man. Happy birthday can continue success and everything. You're an inspiration. I mean this. You've been an inspiration for years. If you'll let me say something kind to you. I just appreciate your friendship and your kindness all these years. Dan, you're the best.
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Rich Eisen
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Rich Eisen
All right, buddy, That's Scott Van Pelt. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
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Rich Eisen
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Later today.
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Rich Eisen
What exactly is the platform here? What do we. What are we. We're just reminiscing.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
That's it. You and I have done this before.
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Rich Eisen
Yes, we have. Yes.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
And it's just gonna. It's a fun series that it. It's mostly in the can, but you're the missing piece.
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Rich Eisen
Wait, how many of these interviews have you done?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I've done five already.
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Rich Eisen
Okay.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
And you are the. You're the lead guest. You're the one who's. Where we're coming out of the shoot on June 5th on Disney plus and the ESPN app and my YouTube channel and wherever you get your podcasts, because you could watch it and listen to it.
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Rich Eisen
Okay.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
And you know, I mean, the nostalgia of when we did what we did, you know, or you were doing before I even arrived, you know, with KO and Berman and, you know, Bob Lee And Robin and Charlie. I mean, I can go down the whole lane here.
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Rich Eisen
Who are the other anchors that you've.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I interviewed Chris Berman at the super bowl and Chris Fowler then stopped off in my L A show studio after coming back from the Australian Open.
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Rich Eisen
Okay.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
So I interviewed him there. Mike Greenberg in New York. And then just this past week, I interviewed Linda Cohn and Kilby Lord.
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Dan Patrick
Kilby.
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Rich Eisen
Oh, kill Craig Kilbourne.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Rich Eisen
Greg. Killer. Yeah, Killer.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
He. He. He told some. He told some. He spun some yards, Dan. Including. I just. But it's just fun. Like, I provide the memories that I have. Obviously, you know, you and I go way back and, you know, and how I first arrived there and. And some fun stories about that. And Craig, he. He and I overlapped by about three months. And I'll never forget, he took me to dinner. Yes. Because we were doing a 2am sports center. He said, spark, do you want to go to dinner? And I'm like, sure. We hopped in his car and he took me through the Kenny Rogers, Roland Roaster drive through.
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Rich Eisen
Yeah, yeah.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
In Southington.
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Rich Eisen
Yeah.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Beautiful downtown Southington, Connecticut.
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Rich Eisen
That was in Plainville. That was Southern.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
It was Southington.
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Rich Eisen
Okay.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
And I'll never forget him. After we ordered our chicken, he turns to me and he proceeds to tell me that he's got another job offer and should he take it. And I'm like, again, I'm 26. I just showed up from Reading, California. This might have been like my 10th sports center I ever did. I'm like, why is he even asking me this? And he described the Daily show to me, and I'm like, sounds great, man. Like, that's. Go do it if that's what make you happy. Honestly, I didn't know him from Adam, so to recount that story with him now, you know, about 30 years later. Not about. It is 30 years later. That's what this show's all about, you know.
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Rich Eisen
Have you reached out to Keith Olbermann?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I have indeed. And I try to interview him when I was in New York recently, but schedules just didn't align. But he'll. He's up for doing it. Who else? But that's. This is just for the first season. I'm just doing six just to get this ball rolling. But I told you this, and. And this is, you know, no surprise. I mean, you're. You're the only person I'd want to be the first guest of this series because of what you've meant to me and what you did mean to me back then. What you Mean to so many people. And, you know, and I appreciate you doing it.
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Rich Eisen
The older I get, the better I was though, Rich.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Is that what it is?
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Rich Eisen
Yes, I think so. Because, you know, when you're doing it, when we did SportsCenter.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Yeah.
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Rich Eisen
You're just trying to survive because it's really, really competitive. And I told people that. I tell people that it was cutthroat.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Oh, yeah.
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Rich Eisen
Like, it wasn't. Hey, we're. We're rooting for you. You had people who were circling, you know, the sports center set, waiting for somebody to keel over so they could sit in the chair.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Well, and this is something that I plan on talking with you later. I mean, when. When KO left and your seat was open, it was on. I mean, it was way on for everybody wanted that seat next to you in the worst way. At least I know I did.
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Rich Eisen
That was a bad time. It was a bad time for me because I didn't want to pick Keith successor. I wanted management to do it right. Because I wanted them to be on the hook for that person to sit in Keith chair, which that's, you know, almost irreplaceable, you know, trying to get somebody to sit in there. And so I turned it around to management. I said, tell me who you want to watch at night.
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Rich Eisen
And I mean, I had my thoughts, but I was worried, were we going to try to recreate Keith and Dan? And I didn't want to do that because it wasn't fair, whoever sat there. And. And then I thought, well, Linda Cohn could sit in, and then there won't be any comparison. And then they came back to me. I'm on a. I'm on a scouting trip with my son. I have no contact with anybody. They say they're going to make the decision over the next two days. And all of a sudden, I go to a convenience store to get a six pack of beer because I couldn't survive the scouting trip without having beer, even though they frowned upon that. You could lose a merit badge or something like that. And I see my phone, it's got a message, and it says, we're gonna go with Kenny Maine. And I called my boss and I said, I got your message. Okay. And that was it.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Well, because we all assume that you would be giving 2 cents. I did not. And that had to be, you know, how to be tough for you. But I mean, again, this is the sort of stuff that this. This show, this was SportsCenter is all about, like, diving into this behind the scenes.
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Rich Eisen
Sure.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
No, I can Enter the airport. Can we just clip and save? But yeah, like, and I think fans can't get enough of it, you know, and when you came back and did your show with, with, with Keith, you know, a few years ago when you did your show with Kilbourne, because we, he and I talked about that. That was the last time he did SportsCenter. Fans can't get enough of it, Dan. They really can't. I mean, I did it twice in the last year and the reaction that I got was overwhelming and obviously humbling and awesome. It's just a different time. And, and, and that's why I'm just diving straight into the nostalgia.
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Rich Eisen
He's Rich Eisen joining us here in the man cave in the podcast. This was SportsCenter taking off the this is Sports center campaign June 5th on Disney+ ESPN, the Rich Eisen show as well. The schedule release.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Yes, sir.
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Rich Eisen
When did it become when we were
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
starting NFL Network and we're like, what are we going to do in between games being played? And, you know, and how are we going to follow through on the branding that we put out there? The very first NFL Network super bowl commercial was in 2004, after we launched in OH3 in the middle of the Patriots and Panthers Super Bowl Jake DeLone versus Tom Brady. And it was right.
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Rich Eisen
Was that Janet Jackson, which means.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
And, and this commercial was amazing because they we got the rights to Tomorrow from Annie and we had Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells and Warren Sapp and Terrell Owens and all the stars of the day singing Tomorrow. Because the day after the super bowl is when NFL Network you should still tune in because everybody's O and O. All 32 teams are active and we're going to be all over it. That was the branding of the commercial. And I'll never forget it. I found a TV in the, in the stadium in a, in a suite. I snuck in so I could see the commercial. It was very big for me and everybody that worked there. And then it was in the commercial pod right after halftime. Nobody saw it. Not a soul saw the commercial. As a matter of fact, it was the most rewound TiVo moment in the history of that DVR.
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Rich Eisen
Yeah.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
So nobody saw the commercial, but we had to come. We had to follow through on it, though, Dan. We had to start coming up with things that we had to cover. And one of the first things we came up with was what if we eventize the schedule being released? Like what, what if we're celebrating paperwork, you know what I mean? Which is Basically what it is.
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Rich Eisen
Same thing with the draft. It's just calling out names.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
That is it. I mean, like, you could do the NFL draft, like your fantasy league and do it in two, two hours and be done with it. But it's a show. And now it's something massive where it's like the super bowl for every team's social media group, and they've been better out of there, great at it. These are. These are fun videos to watch. And now it's a big thing. And now, you know, the NFL times it with their 10 different partners and all the upfronts, and everybody announces a game here and a game there. And I think it just, it just gives the NFL a big splash. In the middle of May right now.
- [42:18]
Rich Eisen
Is there such a thing as too much football?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I don't think so. Do you?
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Rich Eisen
I think we. I think we want. I think we're. We're inching closer to. Are you going to watch all the games?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Well, I, I think you're. You're asking a lot of people when, you know, Thanksgiving is one thing. Hey, we're all sitting around. We don't want to talk to each other. Let's watch a game. Or you've spoken to each other enough. Let's watch a game. And there's three of them now. It's a Wednesday and a Friday with the three in the middle. If I'm the NBA, I'm like, you're looking at that Christmas Day triple header.
- [42:57]
Rich Eisen
Oh, they crushed.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
And the NFL, you could see the NFL is deciding to just keep on raising the ante on those holiday specials. Yeah, I mean, the Thanksgiving games used to be, you know, two games, and it didn't matter who the Lions or the Cowboys were playing. Now, you know, last year, they put the chiefs in Dallas, 57 million viewers for that one. And the NFL's like, all right, let's. Let's see if they, you know, this year, last year, can hold this year's beer. And they decide to put the Eagles in. In Dallas after the Bears and the Lions, before the Chiefs and the Bills, and that's after the Rams and the packers kick it off on a Wednesday and the Steelers and the Broncos have at it on a Friday. So that's asking a lot of people to watch all five.
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Rich Eisen
Well, I think we're doing a disservice to Sunday afternoon schedules. Like, I worry about that, where we're kind of kicking games to the curb, you know, like Sunday at 1 and Sunday at 4:30. Sunday night is still going to be special. With NBC.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Okay, so you're lighting a candle for Scott Hansen, Is that what you're saying?
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Rich Eisen
Right. Scott Hansen has one game.
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Albert Breer
Red game. It's a red game.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
It's not even a zone anymore. All right, well, they're on the 23 yard line, and it's. Oh, you're sure?
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Rich Eisen
What happens to the NFL Network?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Oh, what do you mean now? Well, the games are now. They're still on NFL Network. There's seven of them, five international, two others.
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Rich Eisen
Nothing changes, though, with the marriage?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
No. I have been told Sunday, game day, morning, that I'm hosting is the same. And so is the combine in the draft. We're going to. We're still going to have the combine. We're still have the draft, the rest of it. I mean, we didn't have a scheduled release show for the first time in years. I don't. I don't know if that's an indication other than just, you know, but do
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Rich Eisen
you want to be introduced as ESPN's Rich Eisen or the NFL Network's Rich Eisenhower?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
How about, you know, your. Your good friend here on your birthday?
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Rich Eisen
Oh, I know, but I have to say. Oh, okay. You know Rich Eisenhower.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
No, no.
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Rich Eisen
NFL Networks. Rich Eisen, who also works for the Mothership.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
The Rich Eisen shows. Rich Eisen. Just so. Because you could say my name twice in the same sentence.
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Rich Eisen
Oh, okay. Product placement.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
There you go. Yeah, it's all about the branding. But, no, it doesn't matter to me. But it's pretty wild to me. It's. I'll tell this story to you. When I went back and I did SportsCenter in Bristol, or did I tell you this when I called you there today? Whatever. I'll tell it here because, you know, 23 years ago, I got handed a cardboard box
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Rich Eisen
and I was with your remains, your sports.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I was escorted. Yes, sir. I was escorted, man. I went in and then I was escorted. And then Pete McConville and Gus Ramsey, you know, you're.
- [45:44]
Rich Eisen
Was I there when you got escorted?
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I don't think so.
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Rich Eisen
23 years ago.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
23 years ago.
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Rich Eisen
But I was there, and they.
- [45:51]
Podcast Host / Interviewer
They helped me clear out my apartment after I got escorted. So I had a cardboard box. And when I went back this time, I wore my show gear. I wore a Rich Eisen show like, pullover. And I did that on purpose because I'm like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm going to wear my show gear because I'm a partner of espn. I'm not just an employee. I'm a partner. Damn straight. Okay, I'm a partner. I'm going to walk through that same door with my show gear that I walked out of with my cardboard box. I was escorted out. And not only could I not find that place when I first got there, because it's a totally different spot. I finally found it and it's now a brick wall. So I'm like, okay, I'm so glad I spent all that energy on that. But it's just totally changed. It's totally changed. But it's wild that, you know, I have an ESPN ID now and I am a, an ESPN employee again, working for the spot that I left to go start. It's. You can't make it up. You know, it's wild.
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Rich Eisen
When I went back after 10 years and I was on with Van Pelt and I, I showed up at the security desk with Paulie.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Yeah.
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Rich Eisen
And I didn't want to go back. I still had bad feelings there and some things that happened behind the scenes. But Scott said, hey, look, I'm launching this show. Will you please come on? I said, yes, I'll do it for you. I get there at the security desk and the guy goes, ID please. I said, I, I helped build this place.
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Empower Advertisement Voice
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Rich Eisen
And then he goes, I still need an id. So he gave me a, hello, my name is Dan. So he gave me a name tag, which I wore on the show with Van Pelt. I'm like, all right. And then I remember the producer, Mike McQuaid goes, hey, can you take that off? I go, no, no, Q, I'm gonna wear this. Yeah, I, I, you know, they don't. This guy didn't care, didn't know, didn't matter. Yes.
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Albert Breer
Paulie and Rich, on the way out, Dan lit up the tires and did a patch. Parking lot.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Are you serious?
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Rich Eisen
Yeah. I had my truck.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
Attaboy.
- [47:54]
Rich Eisen
And then I'm like, all right for you. And I burned my, I burned rubber.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
You burn rubber in Bristol?
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Rich Eisen
Yeah.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
It's so funny because when I did the Sports Center a few weeks ago, I showed up early and they had, they have this terrific team there for special pieces and features involving SportsCenter. And we shot a, you know, of, this was SportsCenter kind of mock up, old school commercial based on my return. And one of the segments or piece, parts of the piece was I walk up and my card doesn't work. And so the guy, we had this guy in New York accent who was really working behind the security desk scream, can I see some id? And I held up a picture of me and stuart from like 30 years ago. And the guy goes, really? That's the sort of thing you're talking about? Like, you know, I've been here, you know, like you did with Keith and all of the colleagues you had in the day created something incredibly special, man, that still, it still resonates today. It's part of your fan base as you sit in that chair. And it's also part of the reason why, you know, Van Pelt says you, I want you to please come and why I'm physically here and appreciate you doing this on your birthday because, you know you deserve it. I know you don't like people talking about you, but it's the truth, man.
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Empower Advertisement Voice
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
You're the man.
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Rich Eisen
We'll take a break. It's a meat Friday if you want to join us.
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Podcast Host / Interviewer
I have already seen what's going down out there, and I would be offended if you ask me to leave.
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Rich Eisen
All right, to be honest, you'll be able to see this episode June 5th on Disney Plus ESPN the Rich Eisen Show YouTube channel, wherever you get your podcast. Rich Eisen of NFL Network ESPN, ESPN NFL/Nnetwork say you've always wanted to see
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Rich Eisen
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Rich Eisen
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