The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Best of The Dan Patrick Show Release Date: April 24, 2025

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Introduction

In this special episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosted by iHeartPodcasts and the Dan Patrick Podcast Network, listeners are treated to a comprehensive recap of some of the most riveting discussions and debates from previous shows. The episode primarily focuses on the highly anticipated 2025 NFL Draft, featuring insights from renowned sports personalities including Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Daniel Jeremiah, Ryan Seacrest, and Freddie Prinze Jr.

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NFL Draft Analysis

Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, and Daniel Jeremiah dive deep into the strategies and potential outcomes of the upcoming NFL Draft. The conversation centers around the critical decision-making process teams face, especially concerning the selection of quarterbacks versus versatile multi-position players.

• Quarterback Focus vs. Versatility:
  Daniel Jeremiah emphasizes the importance of securing a quarterback:

  “If you don't have a quarterback, you don't have a chance.” (03:45)

  The debate intensifies as they discuss whether teams should prioritize drafting a quarterback or opt for unique talents like Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders who offer flexibility across multiple positions.

• Top Prospects Evaluation:
  Ryan Seacrest and Freddie Prinze Jr. analyze top draft prospects, highlighting players such as Ashton Genti, Tyler Warren, and Travis Hunter. They debate the potential impact these players could have on their respective teams, with particular attention to Travis Hunter's dual-role capabilities.

  “Shador Sanders needs one person to back him up, and that's all he needs.” (10:07)
  “I would take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, but when they didn't jump in the quarterback market…” (38:34)

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Player Evaluations

The panel provides in-depth evaluations of key players:

• Travis Hunter:
  Described as the "Otani of the NFL," Travis Hunter is lauded for his exceptional versatility.

  “He gives you that Ohtani effect. The unicorn with this.” (23:31)

  Kurt Warner adds:

  “He’s more impactful on offense. I can get the ball in his hands a lot.” (77:03)

• Shador Sanders:
  Despite his hype, concerns about team fit and defensive responsibilities are raised.

  “He doesn't have a huge arm. So I think you start to talk yourself into it more when you don't like a player.” (09:06)

• Ashton Genti:
  Seen as a reliable running back who can make an immediate impact, Ashton Genti is considered a safe pick for teams needing a starter.

  “No one in this draft is going to make a bigger year one impact than Ashton Genti.” (28:24)

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Personal Stories and Anecdotes

Daniel Jeremiah shares memorable moments from his playing career, including pivotal games against the Indianapolis Colts and Baltimore Ravens. These anecdotes underscore the unpredictability and strategic depth of NFL games.

“One of the elite corners went out like early fourth quarter... Touchdown. Ties the game.” (15:18)

Kurt Warner recounts his scouting experiences and the challenges of evaluating quarterbacks, drawing parallels between the legendary quarterbacks like Brett Favre and emerging talents.

“He had huge hands. He was obviously ultra athletic and creative.” (51:30)

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Hot Takes and Predictions

The panel engages in spirited debates, presenting bold predictions about the draft outcomes:

• Ryan Seacrest's Hot Takes:

  “Shador doesn't go tonight.” (39:30)
  “Tua Tuga Violo will be traded tonight to either The Saints, Giants, 49ers or Steelers.” (48:19)

• Freddie Prinze Jr.'s Bold Claims:

  “Jackson Dart will go to the LA Rams at the end of the first half.” (47:31)
  “The Broncos will move up from 20 to take Ashton Genti.” (81:46)

• Kurt Warner's Strategic Insights:

  “If someone is throwing interceptions, look at the hand size and say, okay, maybe it matters.” (30:31)
  “There's been so much chatter about the Bears trying to be aggressive.” (84:19)

These predictions stir debate among listeners, showcasing the diverse perspectives within the panel.

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Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes

As the episode winds down, hosts encourage listeners to stay tuned for live draft coverage and future episodes featuring expert analyses and interviews. The recurring themes emphasize the blend of strategic insight, personal experience, and passionate debate that defines The Dan Patrick Show.

“Listen to this episode of Wrestling with Freddy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.” (44:12)
“Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.” (85:35)

Listeners are invited to engage with the show through various platforms, ensuring they remain connected to all the latest sports discussions and analyses.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Daniel Jeremiah:

  “If you don't have a quarterback, you don't have a chance.” (03:45)
  “Being under center really helps with play action.” (07:35)

• Kurt Warner:

  “He had huge hands. He was obviously ultra athletic and creative.” (51:30)
  “Travis Hunter is best when you kind of play him off on offense.” (77:03)

• Ryan Seacrest:

  “Shador doesn't go tonight.” (39:30)
  “We are never gonna like it, but you just get comfortable with it.” (27:55)

• Freddie Prinze Jr.:

  “He gives you that Ohtani effect. The unicorn with this.” (23:31)
  “Listen to this episode of Wrestling with Freddy on the iHeartRadio app.” (44:12)

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This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers an engaging and thorough exploration of the 2025 NFL Draft, enriched by the expertise and spirited discussions of its hosts and guests. Whether you're a seasoned sports enthusiast or a casual fan, the show provides valuable insights and entertaining debates that capture the essence of American sports culture.

Transcript

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Drew Brees]

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[Kurt Warner]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Kurt Warner]

The 40s and free agents Podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason.

[Kurt Warner]

And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all two 157 picks have been made.

[Kurt Warner]

Listen to the 40s and free agents podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

What's up Federation? It's Freddie Prinze Jr. And wrestling with Freddy is back and we're going all in on WrestleMania 41.

[Ryan Seacrest]

From the unpredictable to jaw dropping finishes.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

This year's mania might have just Changed everything. By the way, almost all the matches that we saw looked like real fights. I thought, like, they were like, yo, we're going hard today.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Tomorrow we're going to hurt, but we're.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Going hard today because it was like beast mode times 10 out there. Listen to this episode of Wrestling with Freddy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Show on Fox Sports Radio.

[Drew Brees]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, sweet. What's up, guys? How we doing? Good to see you. Good to see you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

All right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I brought some for you for later.

[Drew Brees]

All right. There you go. Oh, wow. Got an autograph here. You know, ready to go.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Coffee for the morning and coffee liqueur for the draft.

[Drew Brees]

All right. Two dp. Don't get hammered.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Drew Brees]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

There you go.

[Drew Brees]

When I say NFL draft, first thing that comes to mind is what?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, probably, probably my own draft experience. You know, it's a, it's a, it's become an even crazier time, I think, for these guys. Just because there's so much, there's so much hype leading into it, you know, with the way that the, the media encircles it and also the fact that we've dedicated now the first round to kind of a prime time slot, you know, and so everybody descends on a town like Green Bay, which I love the fact that we have a chance to come and highlight some of the great, you know, venues and meccas of football.

[Drew Brees]

Were you invited to the draft?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You know, I was. It was in New York. So this is 2001. I chose not to go. Just wanted to stay in West Lafayette, at Purdue. Had my wife, my brother, our dog, and we just fried up some fish and watched the draft. But. And it wasn't, it wasn't because, look, there was a lot of speculation. I think for me, I hoped I would go in the first round. I think it was about 10 or 12 teams that I thought were strong possibilities with the Miami Dolphins sitting at pick number 26, where I basically had gotten a guarantee from my head coach, Joe Tiller. He said, hey, one of my best friends is a scout for the Dolphins. If you're there at 26, they're taking you. Right? So I kind of had that as like my, my stop My stop gap, like, hey, I'm. No matter what happens. I got Jacksonville here, I got Kansas City at this, I got that 26 comes, you know, I just walked over to the phone, you know, Dolphins are going to call and they didn't call. They drafted Jamar Fletcher, Wisconsin, who picked me off about three times in college. So I was like as probably a good pick and then obviously fell to the second round and was drafted by the San Diego Chargers, which was the greatest thing that could have happened to me because I had a chance to go play with Doug Flutie, Ladanian Tomlinson, Lorenzo Neal Jr. Sal Rodney Harrison, some of the greatest, in my opinion, ever play the game at their positions and also get coached by Marty Schottenheimer.

[Drew Brees]

But okay, you probably played with the chip on your shoulder at Purdue, I'm guessing.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh yeah.

[Drew Brees]

Played with a chip on your shoulder in the NFL.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's been a lifetime thing.

[Drew Brees]

Do you still have a chip on your shoulder?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, I mean, look, it's, I'm more about proving the people who believe in your right as opposed to proving the others wrong. At the end of the day, I, I, I've always felt like playing the quarterback position at 6ft tall. You know, look, I don't know what it's like to play it at 6, 5. Right. You know, so, so to hear all of that, I mean, look, I heard that coming out of high school. You know, 6 foot, 170 pounds. You're, you're not the prototype guy, you know, we're not going to recruit you. But that's why Doug Flutie was such an inspiration to me and such a mentor for me. You know, he was the starting quarterback when I got to the San Diego Chargers and it was, he's probably one of the biggest influences on my career.

[Drew Brees]

And he made you feel tall.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Look, Fluty was Mahomes before Mahomes. Exactly. I was the tallest guy in the quarterback room in 2001. It was Doug Flutie at five, nine. He'll tell you five, ten and a half. He's full of it. It's five, nine. All right. And then Dave Dickinson, who was a CFL legend, came down, played a couple years in the NFL and now he's, he's a head coach in the CFL still. So those are the two other guys in the room. Double D was five, ten and a half. And then, so I was six foot. So we were the six Foot and under club. We were not, not real imposing, walking out, winning any pre game competitions, walking around the field. But man, I'll Tell you what, Fluti, Fluti could sling it.

[Drew Brees]

He, he, he was ahead of his time. Could you imagine him playing now where they would have encouraged him to be Doug Flutie at Boston College?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He would, he'd be one of the most celebrated quarterbacks ever. Yeah, I mean he was, he was throwing back shoulders before everybody was throwing back shoulders. The guy would back the pedal a seven step, drop front under center. When's the last time you saw that? Well, they don't, they don't, they don't take, we don't take snaps under center anymore. What am I talking about? But no, he was, he was, he was well ahead of his time and in my opinion, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time that will never get the credit he deserves.

[Drew Brees]

But do you think we should go back to under center? Because it does give more deception with, and play action and you know, when you're in the gun, it just seems like we're taking away a little mystery that maybe you could incorporate or reincorporate you do.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think if you, I think if you talked, if you talk to running backs, you know the, the only way, first off, being under center gives you really a two way threat in the run game.

[Drew Brees]

Right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Because the back, the back is in what we call the home position. He's right behind the quarterback. So he can go right, he can go left, he can go inside and go outside. The minute you go in shotgun. What does the back do? Well, he has to offset one direction. A lot of times defense is set their front set their defense based on where the back is aligned because typically he's going to come across the quarterback in order to take the handoff and then the QB will have some sort of RPO read. Hey, I'm reading the defensive end. If he crashes, I'm pulling it or I'm dishing it out here. So it tells the defense a lot about where the ball is going to be run. The only way to combat that is to put the back and pistol, which is directly behind you. Well, the back has a hard time seeing when he's directly behind the quarterback. Right. So there's some, there's some problems there. And your passing game isn't as good because the back involved in protection has a hard time getting around you to pick up a blitzing linebacker that might be his responsibility. So that's why like being under center. Yes. It stresses the defense. Yes. It really helps with play action. Watch the reaction of linebackers when you go under center and all of a sudden you give some sort of a play fake, man, they have to react to it, and you open up a lot of, kind of the deeper, intermediate stuff. So, like, I watch, you know, last year, the Pittsburgh Steelers, with Russell Wilson, I think that's one of his great strengths. Go under center, and they want to run the ball. Run the ball, play great defense, play action, then let Russ chuck it, and, and they were really successful doing that. Sean Payton likes doing that. You watch the evolution of the Broncos offense throughout the year with Bo Nicks. I think Bo got more and more comfortable going under center. It helped the run game, it helped the play action, and therefore, it helped their team.

[Drew Brees]

Do you want to be a quarterback's coach?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I mean, I, I am anyway. I, I mean, I, I, I, I coach kids throughout the year. I mentor kids throughout the year.

[Drew Brees]

Like in the NFL?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No. No.

[Drew Brees]

How come?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, it's, it more so all the, all the other things I, I could do. Look, because I can still get the same thing accomplished, but without, you know, dedicated to one team. I mean, I, I have the chance to, to mentor and coach a lot of guys.

[Drew Brees]

We're talking to Drew Brees, the Hall of Famer. You know, when you start to look at the draft, and then we tend to build you up, and then we tear you down. So Shador Sanders, he's going to be taken in top five pick, and then all of a sudden, then he has a bad interview or holds on to the ball too long. Like, it's just kind of nitpicking, you know, that, that. Do you understand the whole philosophy of that? We can't just say somebody is really good. It's really good. But because that's not good tv to just say, man, that guy's great. Can't miss.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All you need is one guy to love you, or one team or one coach or one scout. You know, it just. In the history of sports, you know, how often have we heard that, you know, with, with certain guys, for whatever reason, all these other teams just didn't see it or didn't believe it. And yet there's that one person on that one team, that one coach on that one team, or that one scout who just stands up on the table for the guy, and it's like, I'm telling you, he's got something. We got it. We got to take him, and then the rest is history. And that's, that's all Shador Sanders needs.

[Drew Brees]

But if Shador wasn't Deion's son, like, does it help him or does it hurt him?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, look, I, I'VE never seen more hype, never seen more hype in an off season than the, than what kind of has encircled Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter. You know, and so I think obviously a lot of that has come from, you know, what, what prime has brought to Colorado and kind of this process through the off season for those guys. But also it's, look, it's, it's the way that they kind of build the lead up to, to the draft now. I mean, there's more coverage on this and there's more talk on this. There's more analysis on this than there ever has been. And look, these guys, these guys are great players. Now it's just a matter of where they go.

[Drew Brees]

Well, they're looking for a headline. I mean, we're in the entertainment business. What can we sell? What's controversial? Shador Sanders, Travis Hunter. The only controversy is is he going to be a wide receiver? Is he going to be a defensive back? Can he be both? Well, do you think that he can beat both in the NFL at the same time?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I mean, that's, that's really, that's really difficult. Just the sheer number of snaps, snaps, the physicality of the game.

[Drew Brees]

But would you want your wide receiver playing defensive back in the same game?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No.

[Drew Brees]

Would you want, would you want your defensive back playing wide receiver?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Defensive coaches would say no. But I, I mean, I think the, probably the greater reality is, you know, if obviously having an elite corner. I know just from my perspective, like a lot of the times the, the, the thing that you would find is a weakness in a defense is, hey, there's that one db, right, that I'm trying to attack. And in a lot of cases, man, you could be so sound at the other 10 positions, but the minute you've got the one guy that you found a pick on that that can make a huge difference in your success in the game. So if, if he, him playing defense helps fill one of those gaps or voids or weaknesses on a defense, man, that's where he's going to play. And then you supplement him on offense for specialty type stuff. Yeah, but look, I, I mean, I was amazed at what the guy did in college playing 140, 50, 60 snaps a game. I mean, that's crazy. You know, and as a, as a 20, 20 year old kid, it's doable. As a 25, 28. Yeah, I mean, at some point, you know, hey, he's going to be relegated to one side of the ball with contributions potentially on the other side. I think the most realistic thing Is, man, he's a. He either comes out and says, man, I'm just playing receiver, or he's going to play DB and then he's going to supplement a little bit on offense.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, but we're in the Shohei Ohtani world now. So now I get a two way guy. Marketing people are going to come out and see him. He's going. He's the guy who can't miss in this draft. The unicorn with this. I never understand that there's. There are going to be a couple of hall of Famers in this draft, it feels like, but we'll take our chances on quarterbacks. So if you're Tennessee, would you take Travis Hunter because he can't miss and he gives you that two way. He gives you that Ohtani effect. Or do you take a chance on Cam Ward?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Ask me, ask me. Ten years from now, you know when.

[Drew Brees]

You get, when you would go in the film session, would you guys go, that's the guy we're picking on on Sunday?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Absolutely.

[Drew Brees]

Like collectively. Okay, so absolutely.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

And, and what was his name?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, it's like, we want to attack. I, like, I'll give an example, man. We, we were playing the, we were playing the Chargers 2020 on Monday night Football, and man, we had been struggling throughout the game. Ironically. I literally, I tore my planar fascia in my foot in pregame. This is the dumbest thing ever, right? So like all of a sudden I went from being able to move really well to not being able to move at all. I was just totally relegated to the pocket. So is Monday Night Football 2020 at Our Place. We get down 17 points, we're kind of chipping our way back, but it's just one of these, like, we're slugging it out and we're not doing much on offense. And they just had a great defensive plan for us. Well, one of their elite corners went out like early fourth quarter and they brought in their backup guy and I'm like, dude, that's all we needed. I'm just gonna sit here and throw it at this dude every single time. And sure enough, we did. We end up going on two scoring drives. We win the game in overtime, but literally, if that doesn't happen, we probably don't win the game. But it's just like there's a lot of these, you know, you're just kind of in real time what's happening in the game. And all of a sudden they lose a guy or all of a sudden something happens that just changes the scheme or Gives you a matchup that you like and you exploit it.

[Drew Brees]

You were watching, I think, during the commercial break, my guys were playing pickleball. Do you want to break down what you saw with first of all, pickleball?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's possibly the worst example of middle aged athleticism that I've. I've ever seen.

[Drew Brees]

But you're saying possibly. You're not saying definitively.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, not definitively, no. I'm sure there's worse. But. But it was. No, it was.

[Drew Brees]

Were they cheating? Was there cheating?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There was a lack of knowledge of rules.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

On a few occasions.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So the kitchen. Were you guys informed about the kitchen?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Heard of it?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay. Okay. Loosely. All right. Barbecue in the kitchen.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Good.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Feet in the kitchen. Taking a ball of the air. Bad. Right.

[Drew Brees]

And Todd is suffering from plantar fasciitis right now. He played through that. I mean, just saying. You played in an NFL game. He played pickleball.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

In the middle of the pickleball match. It stepped really hard on my left foot. Chasing a ball while I was in the kitchen or the dining room doesn't.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Necessarily require a to of mobility. I mean, let's just. Let's just look at the. The demographic that plays a lot of pickleball. Like I've. I've gotten my butt kicked by plenty of 75 year olds out there that aren't moving real good.

[Drew Brees]

But they got some twi, Quick twitch, the state line. How'd you get involved with this?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So they're a Madison, Wisconsin based distillery. Great friends of mine, they make in incredible spirits. That's one of the absolute best. The coffee liqueur double gold winner at the San Francisco World spirits competition two years in a row.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Double gold means blind taste test. 32 out of 32 judges said that was the best coffee liqueur in the world. So it's fantastic product.

[Drew Brees]

Okay. Well, it's good to see you. Last time, I think it was Miami when you kind of just walked on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I just popped.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I just popped in.

[Drew Brees]

Oh, it was great.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That was all right.

[Drew Brees]

No, it's always great.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We always had some awesome barbecue backstage. We were reminiscing about that.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, Traeger. Traeger barbecue there.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Where's the tr.

[Drew Brees]

Where's Friday? We bring our Traegers Friday.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, okay.

[Drew Brees]

Meet Friday.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Sorry, you might have to stick around.

[Drew Brees]

For that or just walk by.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I picked the wrong day.

[Drew Brees]

Or do you have any good memories of Lambeau Field?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I do. Shoot. We played. We played here in 06, the second game of the year. So this is you Know, the beginning of the Sean Payton era, you know, not knowing what kind of a team we were going to have. Obviously the, the coming back to, you know, after post Katrina year. So a magical season. We end up going down 13 points to these guys in the first quarter. Three turnovers, two of them were mine. Ended up coming back and beating them, you know, in the fourth quarter. And so that was kind of a huge, I think, moral victory for us. Just feeling like we, you know, gaining momentum and then we. That the next game was the Monday Night Football game. Returning to the dome. Yeah, Gleason blockpoint. So that was a big win for us. 2011. We came and played them here and that was the Thursday Night Football game after they had won the Super Bowl. And that was a bit of a juggernaut contest. It was a shootout. We, I think Aaron and I Both threw for 400 yards and we beat, they beat us. But we had a goal line stand right at the end where we're gonna. Oh yes, we're gonna jump in and tie it. We hand it to Mark Ingram and then they just stop us right, right at the goal line. So we get beat. And then they finished 15 and one that year. We were 13 and three. But I thought we were the two best teams in the league that year.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, I was here for that game. That was, that was a. Not a controversial ending, was it? It was just.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, not at all.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Just.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Just a hard fought game. We drove down with about 52 seconds left to try to tie it and send it to ot. But Aaron played lights out. You know, I felt like we played, we played pretty well. And it was just one of those heavyweight matches.

[Drew Brees]

Best quarterback performance you ever witnessed.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Man. The first one that came to mind was I played against Peyton Manning and the Colts in 2004 in the game where Peyton broke Dan Marino's single season touchdown mark. So he threw touchdown number 49 back when Dan had the record at 48. And we were, we played first. First off, we were heavy underdogs in this game. I was with the Chargers. We come play the Colts and we just play. We play. So lights out. So lights out. And we're be, we're. We're winning by seven going into the final drive. And Peyton. This is the, this is the game where it gets to fourth down and Peyton sends the punt team off the field. The first time that happened.

[Drew Brees]

Is this an overtime?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, this isn't an overtime yet. Okay, but they beat us in overtime. 34, 31. But I think we're, we're winning 31, 24. Two minutes. Two minutes and something left. It's one of those questionable, like, ah, do we punt it?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Do we.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But they're deep in their territory. You know, Dungey sends the punt team out, he sends them back, you know, and then, and then rips a back shoulder to Reggie Wayne on our sideline. It was one of those like, I saw it coming, you know, and yet there's still, there's nothing you can do about it. Mainly because I'm a quarterback and I'm on the sideline. I'm not playing tv, but I knew it was coming. I was like, that's where I would have gone. Rips him back shoulder, Reggie Wayne.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Boom, boom.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Methodical down the field. And then Brandon Stokely is in the slot over here. And we're, we're, we're in cover two. So two high safeties. And he looks over here and he gives this signal to this left side. And this is like the universal single for Smash. And a Smash combination is hitch with a corner. But he was doing it so emphatically that I'm like, ah, something's up here. He wants the safety to see Smash Smash. So the safety overplays the corner and Stokely runs up and gives it a nod, crosses the safety's face. Peyton hits him right in the chest. Touchdown. Ties the game. Touchdown number 49. And then they get the ball in overtime, go right down the field, kick a field goal and beat us. So just, just the whole send. Send them off the field. I got this, coach. Back shoulder, Reggie Wayne.

[Drew Brees]

Smash.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Smash.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Psych, right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And then gets us to OT and beats us. I was like Peyton Manning.

[Drew Brees]

Checkmate. Great to see you. Good luck with State Line. It's a grain to glass distillery right here in Wisconsin. And back to back San Francisco World spirit competition double gold winner with the State Line coffee liqueur.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

I cannot wait to be in Green Bay.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

All right, so obviously we've talked a lot about the quarterbacks and the edge rushers, but we forgot about the other skill position players, your running backs, your tight ends, your wide receivers. Now I'm going to start with obviously the unicorn, Travis Hunter. Maybe, maybe he plays both sides of the ball. But I'm just looking at him. But I'm just looking at him. As far as a wide receiver, where do you see him making the biggest impact going into the pros? I see that as well. I think he'd be make more of an impact as a wide receiver. I'm very curious. With whatever team picks him, I gotta believe they're gonna at least early on try him out in both spots. I know you increase the risk of injury and all that, but as you said, being a unicorn, how do you have someone that has that kind of special talent and not let him try both sides of the ball? I definitely think he's more of a wide receiver as far as for the NFL. I think he obviously could be great in the secondary, but I'm excited to see and I hope whoever picks him will let him play both offense and defense. And another guy, we talked about him a lot during the college football season. Tyler Warren, the tight end.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Ooh, good call. I love him.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I think he's going to make a Brock Bowers like impact going into whatever team he goes to.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I like that analogy a lot.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

He's a football player in every sense of the word. You want him to run the ball, you want him to catch the ball. Look, he'll even throw the ball. So I love him going into the pros. I wish Denver would get him. Whoever gets that guy is going to have a stud. And I think he's going to make an immediate impact. Oh, absolutely. And then there's Genti, Boise State. How can we not talk about him? And are you convinced that right out of the get go he's going to be able to live up to expectations and become one of the all time great running backs? Is there too much hype? Is that going to hurt him that the expectations are kind of through the roof? The only reason why I'm really not worried about genty is because running backs, that's the one position where you can make an impact on a team right away and become an all pro as a rookie. In the pros, Miller Lite is the perfect pick for draft season. It's the taste you can depend on. A great beer trusted by beer lovers for 50 years. Pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer.

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[Kurt Warner]

The 40s and free agents Podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepar you for the 2025 NFL Draft.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason.

[Kurt Warner]

And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made.

[Kurt Warner]

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[Drew Brees]

Matt Miller, friend of the show and we make way for him. Come on in, man. Closest to me, man looks like a. Like a Christmas sweater that you got on or something.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's cold out here. You know it's cold. I'm used. I don't leave home. So being outside, it's a little cold.

[Drew Brees]

This isn't cold.

[Ryan Seacrest]

This is cold for me.

[Drew Brees]

Where do you live?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I live in Southern Missouri. It's like 80 degrees.

[Drew Brees]

Okay. But this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thank you.

[Drew Brees]

This is football weather Here it's football weather.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I've never been to Green Bay before, so as a football nerd, this is. I always said I wouldn't come here until I came for a game when it was cold out. I wanted the experience. Yeah, this is pretty close.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. Well, this is Christmas for you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It is, yeah. It's like tax season plus Christmas all together.

[Drew Brees]

But how much pressure do you feel when you put out a mock draft? This is your job. You're at the mothership and trying to live up to, you know, Mel Kuiper and everybody else that you. I don't know if you compete with, but, you know, you complement each other.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So I never thought of it like that. So now there's a lot more pressure. Now. I've never been like, oh, if I put this out and it's not good, Kuiper's gonna be like, never mind. Get that kid off my desk. But there is pressure, I think. Obviously. You know, I spent 10 years at Bleacher Report. That's even different than ESPN, because ESPN and you. You guys have been there. You know, it's like everything you say is under a different microscope. So there is a lot of pressure with mock drafts. You basically get to a point where you're never gonna like it, but you just get comfortable with it. So my last one came out yesterday afternoon, and it. I finally sent it to the editors and was like, I don't want to mess with this anymore. Let's just get it out there. Because I could make picks. I could change picks until tonight at 6:55 if I wanted to. So at some point, you just wash your hands of it and hand it in.

[Drew Brees]

What's the pick that could change the first round?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, I think Ashton Gently going five to Jacksonville, but I'll back up a little bit. I still think there's a 5% chance. Shador Sanders goes three to the Giants. I don't feel great about it, and I wouldn't put it in a mock draft because I think it's a minute possibility. But you have to account for the fact that an owner could hop in and say, hey, you know what? Take the quarterback here. So I think Shador at 3 would shake up the draft. Not that I am expecting it, but Gentee to Jacksonville 5 would. Would be a pretty big wild card.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, it feels like somebody's trading up, and my source said that somebody's trading up. And he goes, who are you trading up for? And he thought Genti's the only guy who's sort of a wild card. With this of he's an impactful guy and we'd now I guess reassess the running back position and he's back. You know, when somebody says he's Emmett Smith with speed. Okay, you got my attention with that.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And I do think in this class there's very few blue chip players to where you could say, okay, we have Travis Hunter, we have Abdul Carter. The next best player on my board is Ashton Genti. So thank you, Saquon Barkley. Now these running backs are being valued again. And so I think there is that element of, especially if you think about Jacksonville, you have first time general manager, first time head coach, you really want your first pick to be a hit. I remember talking to Scott McLuhan about that when he took the Washington job. The first pick needs to be a hit. They took Brandon Scherf who was a guard from Iowa. He played in the NFL for 13 years. He was a really good player for them. So instead of swinging for the fences, sometimes you just need that first pick to be a starter that you can point to your owner and say, no, the guy we picked, look, he's out there every Sunday. He's making an impact for us. No one in this draft is going to make a bigger year one impact than Ashton Genti.

[Drew Brees]

How do I know when you don't like a player, when you put him in your mock draft?

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's a good question. I think when you don't like a player, you probably talk about, it's more about the projection of how they could be good instead of, here's how I know. Like when I talk about Abdul Carter, you get excited, you know, you get energetic about what he brings to the field. When you talk about somebody, you know, second round or I would even say, I'm not the biggest Shador Sanders fan. And there's a difference when I talk about him because it's, well, he could work if this happens, if he gets in the right scheme, if he gets somewhere where they have a run game and he can live off play action. But he's not a, you know, he's not a big guy, he's not a traits guy. He doesn't have a huge arm. So I think you, you start to talk yourself into it more when you don't like a player.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, I'm just, it's weird how we can look at one positive but also make it a negative when people go, man, he's tough in the pocket, he takes hits. And then you'll go, well, maybe if he got rid of the ball sooner then he wouldn't take all of those hits.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You would love him to be that tough and not be sacked 95 times. If he could be that tough and get sacked 20 times. And it's interesting because from an analytics standpoint, quarterbacks who are sacked a lot in college get sacked a lot in the NFL and that's what we don't want. It's, it is one of the, the stats along with fumbles that actually translates really well from Saturdays to Sunday. So you're right. It's like we love his toughness and that he's willing to stand in the pocket, but at the same time, at 6 1, 200 pounds, I would much rather him get rid of the ball on time.

[Drew Brees]

More likely to be a Pro Bowler or a bust. Short or Sanders.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh gosh, that's tough. This is gonna get clipped. I will say more likely to be a bust. But can you be a bust if you're picked at 21 or 33?

[Drew Brees]

Well, okay, what's the line of demarcation of you're a bust if you're taken in this area?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Do we call, I guess Kenny Pickett? We would call bust because you were a quarterback in the first round and you're not the starter. So in that sense you would be a bus. But not in the sense of, you know, Jamarcus Russell or, or Trey Lance in terms of, you know, a bust. So I think there's levels to it. You know, if you're drafted in the top 10 and you don't become a long term starter, that's obviously a bad pick if he's drafted it. If someone trades up and takes him at 26 and he doesn't work out, it's not as. I wouldn't, I don't know that I want to call that a bust.

[Drew Brees]

Okay, but why don't we call scouts? Bust.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We should.

[Drew Brees]

Or GMs bus.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Or draft guys.

[Drew Brees]

Yes, or draft guys.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We should all take the heat. No, we absolutely should.

[Drew Brees]

I think the players don't draft themselves.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's it. I've made that point before too. It's not the players fault. They were overdrafted. You know, if a player gets drafted, Trey Lance is a good example. It's not his fault he was drafted at number three after playing one game the year before.

[Drew Brees]

How do you miss on you trade. Okay, so this is Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

I mean how do you miss this? Badly. You trade and you, you find Brock.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Purdy and everyone forgets.

[Drew Brees]

Yes, that's.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's how it works.

[Drew Brees]

If they didn't get Brock Purdy, they would be fired. You think so?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Probably. I mean, it's tough because Kyle is Kyle and he's NFL royalty to some degree, but probably because what would be your answer at quarterback? They might still be playing Trey Lance at this point.

[Drew Brees]

If Brock purdy was taken 15th instead of the last pick in the draft, would we have any issues with paying him $55 million?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't think so. I think they would. It would be praised as, oh, look, they got it. You know, they hit on this quarterback.

[Drew Brees]

If he was Matt Jones.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, the narrative be completely different, especially the fact that he's been to a Super bowl, which that's not. That's something a lot of quarterbacks can't say in this era that's been dominated by Brady and Mahomes. So, yeah, I don't think anyone would be. And they probably would have paid him already had he been drafted 15. Because you always carry that first round tag with you if you're drafted in the first round forever. You are a first round pick.

[Drew Brees]

He's Matt Miller. He's ESPN NFL Draft Analyst. He'll be working rounds four through seven with Mel Kuiper, Reese Davis Field Yates and Lewis Riddick. Give me the mock draft that you're the proudest of. Like, you know, where you had somebody and you, you could take a victory lap.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't know if I have one. I honestly like mock drafts. You get eight picks, right. And you feel great about yourself. I think two, two years ago, I think I hit like nine of the nine picks in a row to start the draft. But that just means it was an un. Like it was a predictable draft. It's very chalky.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, I.

[Ryan Seacrest]

One year I want to do it, I want to go with the betting odds and do the mock draft and see how right it would be. But I also know that those lines change based off mock drafts. So it might be, you know, an exercise in futility. But with mock drafts, I mean, it is truly. If you get. If you get 10 or 11, that's a great year.

[Drew Brees]

Have you had agents try to massage you a little bit there with. I mean, no, be nice to my.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Client, I think, because, you know, I broke into this industry when I was really young. And so I think more so I have agents who feel like they can call me and tell me how wrong I am and how dumb I am instead of, you know, I think with some of the guys who were in the league and then came to the media Side, I'm sure Kuyper doesn't get called by agents who say, you're an idiot. This guy's going to go first round and you have him in the second. Agents are funny though, because they will do that until this week and then they'll call and say, so where do you think my guy's going to go? You said, you know, they want to know the draft range this week. Last week you were an idiot for having their player in the second or third round this week. Hey, what are you hearing about my player?

[Drew Brees]

So it's why is Jalen Milroe invited to the draft?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't. That is a great question. I don't think it's because he's going to be picked tonight. As fascinating as he is as a player. I reminded people when that happened that Matt Corral and Malik Willis were also invited to the draft. They were third round picks. So at some point, the NFL, the NFL is an entertainment business. They want a good story. And if Jalen Melrose comfortable hanging out in Green Bay for an extra day, he'll be the face of the draft tomorrow night.

[Drew Brees]

Teams that historically are not good drafters, who would you put at the top?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I thought you were going to name them. So I was. Browns, jets. Those are the two that come to mind for me. And I tried to make a joke this morning on radio about the jets being bad at the draft and people thought I was predicting something. It's like, no, actually they're just traditionally they're not good at it. And that's why I think you can point to Cleveland's been better as of late, but they're. Those are teams that are consistently picking in the top five, top ten. They're there every year for a reason.

[Drew Brees]

Seattle's great. Baltimore is great. Green Bay is great.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Green Bay, I think Buffalo is, is great. They're.

[Drew Brees]

But what's the strategy there?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think they know their system well enough to know what type of player works there and they've had some consistency in their coaching position. So you know exactly. You know, with like, with Matt LaFleur, you know what he's looking for and you know where you can find that value. You can draft Zach Tom in the fifth round. You don't have to spend a first round pick on an offensive tackle or we know they're not going to draft a receiver in the first round, although I really hope they do tonight. If you have the draft in your hometown, you should draft. It should be fun. You should take a receiver. But I think it does boil down to like Baltimore. They've drafted the same player on defense for 20 years. They know exactly what works there and they just keep plugging those players and highly productive players from big colleges. And look at the Rams turnaround. They're doing that too. They're going highly productive players from Power4 conferences and they've completely flipped that defense around after losing Aaron Donald Fritz, he's.

[Drew Brees]

A die hard Bronco fan. He found out this morning the Broncos have a first round draft pick.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, congrats.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

It's kind of sad. It's kind of sad. I thought that they didn't have a first round pick for a couple years after that bad Russell Wilson deal.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. No, you're back. You're back. And they might be trading up. Is what everyone's saying today is they might be moving up.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Can I ask you a quick question? You'll humor me?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Can we see Ashton? Can they trade up and go from Boise State Bronco to Denver Bronco or is that expecting to happen?

[Ryan Seacrest]

It'd be expensive. Do you want to spend two or three first round picks on a running back? Would be the question. You know, so. Especially in a deep running back draft.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

But it would be fun.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It would be fun. Yeah. They'd have put some blue turf down in Denver for him. It'd be great.

[Drew Brees]

Haven't they already done stupid things when they brought in Russell Wilson?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

That didn't work out very well. I bought two Russell Wilson related Bronco shirts, cobwebs.

[Drew Brees]

How does Cam Ward not work out?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think if he continues to be reckless. You know what? I think the biggest drawback for him is at times he believes in his own talent so much that he'll wait to do things or he'll make throws that he shouldn't. When I look at Tennessee, they have to add playmakers around him. He is, he is a very good point guard. But it's notable that his career got better when he went to Miami where he had players. He had Elijah Arroyo, Xavier Restrepo, Sam Brown, Damian Martinez. All those guys are going to be drafted this weekend. He didn't do that at Washington State despite the fact that he had Kyle Williams, who's going to be a top 100 draft picket receiver. So I think for Cam, if Tennessee doesn't surround him with playmakers and they expect him to go be Jaden Daniels or Patrick Mahomes, it's not who he is. He's much more of a distributor than he is, you know, this electric playmaker. He's not. That's not really the type of player that he needs to be.

[Drew Brees]

But if you look at the, you know, scouts and draft analysts, they say, well, Cam Ward probably would have been the seventh quarterback taken last year. Yeah, right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Fifth to seventh.

[Drew Brees]

Okay. But if that's the case, Travis Hunter is the most unique football player maybe we'll ever see.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

Why don't. Why don't you take that guy instead of taking the best quarterback in this draft?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I've been saying that as well. I would. That I would take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, but when they didn't jump in the quarterback market and free agency, we knew where they were going. Because you can't roll another year of Will Levis out there. That's. That's not working. And so it. We see this every year, though. Teams talk themselves into their quarterbacks. I mean, Fritz, these Broncos, it worked. But they talked themselves into Bo Nicks, and they were really backed into that corner of, there's no other quarterback on the board. We're going to have to take him. It worked out. Mac Jones is an example of when that doesn't work out. So Cam Ward is a good player. He's my number 14 overall player in this draft. So him going one is not relative. No one has him ranked as the top player in the draft, at least of the boards that I've seen from my colleagues. None of us have him as the top player. I know that anyone has him in the top five, even.

[Drew Brees]

Give me your scolding hot take for tonight.

[Ryan Seacrest]

For tonight. Oh, that man. I should have been prepared for that. My scolding hot take. The defensive linemen are going to fly off the board tonight. That's not hot. Okay.

[Drew Brees]

No, no, no.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hotter.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Shador doesn't go tonight. Is that hot?

[Drew Brees]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay. Yeah, we'll go with that. I think we see one quarterback tonight. Unless there's a trade.

[Drew Brees]

Jackson dart doesn't go.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No.

[Ryan Seacrest]

As much as I would love it unless the Giants come back up, I could see that. I could see the Giants getting back in for him, but I don't. It's very hard to find a team that loves Shador Sanders, that loves enough to make him the guy. And maybe it's Pittsburgh, but I. There's got to be some Kenny Pickett PTSD there, you know, from like, oh, we tried this two years ago, three years ago. It didn't work. So that would be my. My hot take.

[Drew Brees]

Do small hands matter with your quarterback assessment?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I mean, a little bit. If you have fumbles, then I. I think you look at that and say is there causation there? You know, if you have a guy with smaller hands, but Patrick Mahomes has nine inch hands, it hasn't held him back at all. So I think you want to look at it. If it's a player who has fumble issues, then you look at the hand size and say, okay, maybe it matters.

[Drew Brees]

Marvin, hold up your hands. If you had a quarterback.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yes, there we go. You're also not a big hand guy. You know, a sub six footer has got to stick together. So it's also, you know, I, I don't know that. What was John Elway's hand size? I don't know. It's probably right decent. He's a big guy, but like Joe Montana.

[Drew Brees]

That's what I brought that up. I think it's so silly, but I don't remember somebody saying, you know, United is, I don't know if you'll succeed. Hands are smaller. Joe Namath or any of these.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I understand the irony of a person in my field saying this, but Dan, a lot of the things we talk about from January to now really don't matter. You know, they just really, they don't matter, you know, and I get that.

[Drew Brees]

But hey, you got to feel it's. You're in the machine at the mothership. You gotta, you gotta like, you know.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We got to talk about something.

[Drew Brees]

Yes. Have fun this weekend, Matt. Great to see you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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The 40s and free agents Podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft.

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We've told you what last year's playoff.

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Teams need to return to the postseason.

[Kurt Warner]

And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down. Once all 257 picks have been made.

[Kurt Warner]

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Always felt like to me, after the.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Attitude era, once a wrestler gets cut and you see real blood coming out of their mouth or real blood coming out of their head, the crowd kind of goes, hey, respect.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And they kind of give you that nod Right. You go, wow, every one of these guys is bleeding for that, bro.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

That's literally like blood, sweat and tears.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's all they got is blood.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

We're talking Cody, we're talking Rhea, Roman, Seth, Tiffany. The future of the business is bright. And if you watched Mania and you're still buzzing or if you missed it and want to know what went down, we gotcha. Listen to this episode of Wrestling with Freddy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Show on Fox Sports Radio.

[Drew Brees]

What an audience. I think they than yesterday. Wow. Yeah, I think so. And that's saying a lot. But packed house once again here at the bar. We'll be back here tomorrow morning as well. And people say what time should we show up? I would say a couple hours before we get started. Some people showed up at 3:34 in the morning to get in here. But thank you for taking time off to join us here in our mobile man cave of sorts. 8773-DP-SHoVE Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle At DP show we'll talk to Kurt Warner. He'll stop by. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst. He'll be working the draft tonight with NFL Network with Rich Eisen and company and he's the one who came out with the comment. And I want to ask him about this, where he said that Cleveland Browns are taking Travis Hunter and that he would major in offense, minor in defense, which is opposite or counter to what I think we've been told. All right, poll question for the final hour of the program. We do have our NFL hot takes that these are the bold proclamations. Matt Miller was just here, the ESPN draft analyst. He said his hot take is Shador Sanders, not taken in the first round. So we'll have that. So poll question here. Seaton.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's crazy to me that Shadurkin is either going like second or second round. There's no real consensus. Yeah, we have up there right now better NFL draft day trade Jerry Rice or Patrick Mahomes.

[Drew Brees]

I don't think people remember that Jerry Rice was traded for by the Niners, but everybody remembers with Patrick Mahomes right now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The results of that are 53.47. Want to guess?

[Drew Brees]

I'm going to say because Rice is the greatest receiver of all time. They would say him, he would have 47%.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But I'm going recess.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Patrick Mahomes right now it's been going.

[Drew Brees]

A little closer to 50 50, but.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right now, he's ticking up at 53.

[Drew Brees]

All right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner and our radio affiliates around the country, Marvin, I'll start with you. The scalding hot take for the draft is going to be what?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Tyler Warren will be drafted by the New England Patriots at number four.

[Drew Brees]

Okay. Penn State tight end. Okay. Correct. All right.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Jackson Dart will go in the first round of the draft tonight.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

To the LA Rams.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Interesting.

[Drew Brees]

All right, Todd.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

The Broncos, who, unbeknownst to me, have a first round pick in this draft.

[Drew Brees]

You're the hot take, is that the Broncos have a first round draft pick and you didn't know it.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

They will move up from the 20 spot tonight to select Ashton Genti. So a Boise State Bronco comes to Denver. Bronco. The Cowboys move up from 12 to grab Penn State tight end Tyler Warren, hoping for the next Jason Whitten or Jay Novich to join Dallas.

[Drew Brees]

We'll name. Drop it. Seaton, how about you?

[Kurt Warner]

Let's see.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Tua Tuga Violo will be traded tonight to either The Saints, Giants, 49ers or Steelers.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Wow.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And dang. NFL sack leader Trey Hendrickson will be traded tonight.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

To either the Packers, Lions or Commanders. Hey, let's go, Packers.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. Go pack. Go. Go, pack. Go. All right, Paulie.

[Kurt Warner]

I. I think Seaton's got this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Those are pretty, pretty scalding.

[Kurt Warner]

I'm gonna go. The Patriots trade the fourth pick. They trade out at the fourth pick with the Bears. The Bears have 10. The Bears will trade up to four to get Abdul Carter, who slips to the fourth pick.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Kurt Warner]

My second one. Less warm. Jackson Dart will go ninth to the Saints.

[Drew Brees]

Dang. Marvins are pretty good. I mean, Seaton throwing in the tuatanga violoa. I mean, that's scalding. And then Trey Hendrickson of the Bengals gets traded as well.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Two big trades right there.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, they are.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Tonight.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. Why don't we bring in an expert here, Kurt Warner. Joining us, the hall of Famer, NFL Network's coverage. First round of the draft coming up tonight at 8 Eastern as we make way for Kurt Warner on the program.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What's going on?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

How we doing, people? Let's go. What's up, my friend?

[Drew Brees]

Hi, bud.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

How you doing?

[Drew Brees]

You weren't drafted, but I'm wondering, if you had had been the last pick, if you had been Mr. Irrelevant, would that have worked against you more than just being a free agent? Where you would have that label that you would be Mr. Irrelevant? The rest of your career?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

That's a great question. I think the difference always becomes when you're picked that late, you have to go to the particular team that drafted you, where, if you become a free agent, there's usually four or five different teams where you get the opportunity to, at least in your mind, think, oh, I can pick and choose what the best situation is for me. But I think as a player, you always think, well, if I'm drafted, that gives me a better chance to make the team because they invested a pick in me. But I don't know, it didn't work out for me the way that it, you know, as a free agent. So I'm not sure it would have been much better either way.

[Drew Brees]

Okay, but how do you pick your team that you want to actually try to make?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Well, I mean, for instance, I picked the Packers. I picked the Green Bay team. And the reason that I picked them was because they only had three quarterbacks on the roster. Now, they were good quarterbacks in Favre, Brunel, and Dettmer, a Heisman Trophy winner. But my mindset was, if they're only going to invite four guys to camp, I only have to beat out one of them. Or if something happens or one of these guys is traded, there's a better chance for me to make the team there than to go to a team. I think San Diego at the time had six guys coming to camp and, you know, being a free agent guy, like, okay, how many reps am I going to get? What kind of chance am I going to get to make the team? So that was my mindset at the time. Even though they were good players, hey, I feel like I have a better chance to get some reps and maybe showcase what I can do if I went to the Packers.

[Drew Brees]

How would you compare yourself when you got to the packers with what Brett Favre was doing at the time?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Well, I will say this is that lining up next to Brett and Mark and Ty every day in training camp or, you know, during that period, I was more confident when I left that I could play in the NFL because I felt my physical skills matched up to those guys that I knew were NFL players. But Brett was, you know, it was early in his stage, you know, of being a starter and becoming that guy in the NFL. But I remember calling my family after seeing him for about two days, and I'm like, this dude's different. Like, this dude is special. Even though I don't think everybody knew it at the time, because it was kind of the Brett Favre you know, spin around, throw it up in the air. You have these interceptions, kind of these crazy plays. When you saw him get between the lines and play football, he was. He was different at that time.

[Drew Brees]

What was he like in practice?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Well, I could take you into the meeting rooms, and so, you know, Steve Mariucci, who I work with now, was our quarterback coach. You know, those three guys are in the room and, you know, oftentimes he would pull up tape and he's like, okay, Brett, tell me what the play is. And, you know, formation motion. Call this play for me. And Brett's like, throwing around all. He's like, I don't. I don't know much, you know, and then. And then Ty's there, and Ty just cleans it all up, and he knows it all. He's just like a coach. But when you put Brett between the lines, everything seemed to just click. Like, you know, I listened to him in the meeting room and I'm like, oh, my gosh, what are we going to get on the practice field? And then he goes on the practice field, and it was just bang, bang, bang. Like, everything just seemed to make sense to him between the lines. But, you know, he couldn't look at it, you know, the tape and. And recall everything there. But you give him a play call and let him go play football. And he was just. It was just really, really good.

[Drew Brees]

When did you know you had arrived? Like, you. You could be a great player.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

A great player. Yeah. When I say arrive, for me, it was. It was different with my journey. So in 99, when I became a starter, we actually had to buy the second week of the season, which they don't do anymore, but we had to buy the second week. So. Played the first week against the Ravens. Me and my wife actually went back to. To her hometown to see her family. And I got a call when we were driving down the street that I was the player of the week in the NFL after week one. And that was my moment where, like, okay, I don't know if I'm ever going to play another game. I don't know where it goes from here, but for one week, I was the best player in the national football. And that was kind of like my moment of after the entire journey, like, all the things that I believed. See, I told you. I told you at least for one week I could be that guy. So that was kind of. Do you get any moment.

[Drew Brees]

Do you get a certificate?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think maybe they gave you a paper certificate. I don't. I don't have any idea. The phone call was enough for me to just kind of. Okay, all right, we made it.

[Drew Brees]

We're talking to Kurt Warner. He'll be on the draft coming up tonight at 8 Eastern on NFL Network. We spend so much time talking about quarterbacks, and I was just talking to Matt Miller, who's draft analyst for espn. If I'm Tennessee, why am I trying to get a quarterback when I can get the. A guy who is the Otani of the NFL and Travis Hunter. So now I like. The sure thing is right there. Correct.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Right. Okay.

[Drew Brees]

I'm going to take a chance on Cam Ward, who at best would have been the fifth quarterback drafted last year.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

So why am I doing that? Why do. Why, why am I not patient to go. We can, we'll find our quarterback because.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

It'S as simple as if you don't have one, you don't have a chance. I mean, that, that's, that's the way it is in the NFL outside of, you know, barring one of those unique situations where you have an incredible defense and an unbelievable run game and, and your quarterback can be a complimentary piece. It just doesn't happen very often. And so it's why we reach. It's why we talk about quarterbacks, because if you don't have one, you don't have a chance. And especially if you look in the AFC right now with way, you know, the, the way that's going and all the players that you have there. And so that's why, you know, at this pick, I agree with you, like, okay, we've got guys that we know are going to be good NFL players. Cam Ward, really good college player. We don't know. But that's exactly why you have to take the chance, is because you just know you don't have an opportunity to win without it. And then I think that the second factor is we have no patience anymore. We have no patience not just for quarterback. We have no patience for coaches. And so these coaches know, okay, I can go build a roster for somebody else, because if I don't have a quarterback for three or four years, I'm gone. And somebody else is going to come in and be able to use all these pieces I have. So you go and you try to get that guy that you think has a chance to be a special player for you, knowing if I find that guy, he gives us a chance every time we play, and then we go and build around him.

[Drew Brees]

I had one of my greatest moments in my career, and it happened during your super bowl with Pittsburgh because I'm going to hand out the trophy. I'm on the sidelines and I'm with Steve Young.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Okay.

[Drew Brees]

So Steve Young is with me as Ben comes onto the field and Steve Young is doing play by play in color, like, so he's telling me from a Hall of Fame perspective, right. What Ben is doing, what they should do. So he's doing this all the way down the sidelines now. I'm still thinking, I'm handing out the trophy to you guys.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

And then all of a sudden, you know, so Steve is going, this is, this is crazy. I mean, Ben is, this is unbelievable. And then he throws the touchdown pass and he, he said, you, you can't. I mean, we don't make those throw. I mean, that's not normal to make that throw.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

So when you're watching all of this as a quarterback, you're probably saying, well, what would I do? Or you know, put yourself in that position, I'm guessing. At what point did you realize you were in trouble?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I mean, I realized I was in trouble when he threw the curl route to the right hand side and Antonio took it for about 70. You know, like just all we're thinking on, you know, on our sideline is, you know, we've got the lead at that point, hold them to a field goal at worst. So we're going into overtime because we had kind of taken the momentum at that point. And so our whole mindset is just, you don't give up the big play, like keep everything in front of you. And then it was right off the bat when you throw a curl and he spins and, and you know, sets them up inside the red zone. And that's when I thought, too many opportunities. Like we're giving them too many chances. Like if we gave him one shot in the red zone to go for the touchdown, I feel confident. You get down there and we give them first and goal and they've got chance for at least four plays down there. That's when I was worried. And you know, he had thrown a pass, a better, I wouldn't say a better pass, but they had an opportunity to score a touchdown. You know, the play before and they missed that play. And so after that happens, you're like, okay, they missed one. Maybe we got a shot here. And then when he went in through the the past to San Antonio, from my vantage point, I'm like, what's he doing? Like, there's three guys there. There's no chance. Like, I'm feeling pretty good. That we're going to knock this down. And of course, perfect pass, unbelievable catch in between three guys. But that's what you, you know, that's what Super Bowls are all about, is great players making great plays. But it was after that first quick curl route that spun out and turned into, you know, first down into the red zone, where I knew, like, we were in trouble here.

[Drew Brees]

What still keeps you up at night, football wise?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Football wise, it would be the Patriot super bowl in. Oh, one. Just that, that we didn't play our best game. Like, you want to go to the super bowl and you want to play your best game, you want to say, hey, leave it like that game against the Steelers. Nobody expected us to be there with two and a half minutes to go. We're leading in that game. We played a good football game and very easily could have been champs in that game. So I can live with that one. Even with the long interception and all the stuff that happened, I can live with that one. It was 2001 where we were a better team than we played on that day. And when you get to those moments and you know, what that could have meant for a lot of different things, to have two super bowl championships in three years, all of that stuff, that's the game to me that I wish we could have back and we could play that over again because I really believe, you know, and nothing against the Patriots, we were the better football team. You know, we didn't play better in those three hours, but we were the better football team. We played 10 times. We win, I think at least eight of those. But that day they outplayed us. We didn't put our best foot forward. And that's the game that just continually comes back through my mind more than. More than all the others.

[Drew Brees]

But what was the chatter beforehand? You're facing Brady, and he didn't have much experience.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

And. But what was the defensive philosophy there?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Well, I mean, I think that our defensive philosophy was basically what happened. I mean, Tom Brady threw for like 150 yards in the game. And they had, you know, I threw a pick six. They had one touchdown pass. There was another one where Tory kind of tripped, led to another, you know, interception.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That was.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Was points for them. And so I think the game plan was what we wanted it to be. And it's like their offense isn't going to beat us. We've just got to play better than their defense, which obviously we had great confidence that we could do that with the team that we had. But that was more of the mindset going in. Tom Brady wasn't Tom Brady yet at that point. So it wasn't like a fear, like, oh, gosh, we got to worry about 12 at this time. It was more worried about their defense. Bill Belichick, we played him earlier in the year. Going in. Okay, what are they going to. We know they're not going to do the same thing they did last time. What do we have to prepare for it? So that was more of the matchup that I think we were thinking about going in.

[Drew Brees]

I have a football here, and, you know, we get caught up in. If you'll hold that and. And show us the proper way to throw a football.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Proper way to throw a football?

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, because it.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I mean, like, some. Like my grip. Yeah, yeah. So my grip is one. I don't know where the camera is, but they'll find where I'm almost on the point of the football.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

And for me, I actually changed to that grip when I was in high school when I watched a guy that was older than me threw it. He threw a really good ball, and so I'm like, okay, how's he hold the football? And he had his finger more towards the point. And when I first started doing that, I threw a lot of ducks anyways. But when I first started doing that, the ball never came off clean. But I always felt like I had more control with that point, you know, that finger on. On the point of the ball, because it's kind of the last thing that you release as you're throwing the football. So I felt like it gave me more accuracy when I was doing that. But, I mean, I don't know if there's a. There's a perfect way to do it. I think to me, it's like, grab it. What feels comfortable to you? Do it. But that was the thing for me, is I wanted to have as wide a grip as possible on the ball, and I wanted to have my finger close to the point. So I just felt like it made me more accurate.

[Drew Brees]

Do you care how inflated it is?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I mean, I would like it legally inflated. Like, I mean, whatever the standard is. Is. Is what I.

[Drew Brees]

But why can't you have a football that you want and I have a football that I want?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I mean, I. I don't know. I mean, why do we have rules?

[Drew Brees]

It's a dumb rule.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Why can't you do something that. I mean.

[Drew Brees]

No, no, but nobody benefit. Nobody benefits from this. Kickers get their own ball.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Hold on a second. Like, why would somebody do it if they don't benefit? From it, like whatever that that thing is. I mean, if you deflated a football or you pumped it up, like you would only do that if you felt it gave you some sort of an advantage. Right? And so.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, but we like kickers have their own ball.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I mean, okay, but that's not the rule. Like, if the rule is everybody can have their own ball and we actually do allow quarterbacks to break the ball in and do what they want to do.

[Drew Brees]

So you realize that Aaron Rodgers told me that he overinflated footballs and nobody said anything about that because he didn't have a guy known as the inflator and Brady had a guy known as the deflator.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I.

[Drew Brees]

It's silly.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I. I don't know.

[Drew Brees]

It's silly.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I.

[Drew Brees]

Are you saying it might all be.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Silly, but to me, I mean, are.

[Drew Brees]

You calling into question, you're calling into question Tom Brady's Super Bowl?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

No.

[Drew Brees]

Are we putting. Oh, gosh, is that what we're doing?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I knew somehow this was going to go there. You were, you were somehow gonna get me there. But I mean, the funny thing to me is, and you know, maybe it's to the credit of those guys over inflating or under inflated. Like, I never once thought about how much air. Like, give me the ball. Like, give me the ball. What ball is? Oh, it's this ball. Let's go play football. Like, that was nothing, you know, that I even thought about a detail that I, I considered. I mean, maybe I should have, but it was nothing. Like, hey, this is legal. Somebody figured it out. Let's go play ball. Yeah, it's just kind of what you do.

[Drew Brees]

You're probably not having this conversation on the draft tonight.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I'm probably.

[Drew Brees]

Probably not. Okay.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Actually, I guarantee you I will not let it go there. Yes.

[Drew Brees]

Okay. Great to see you.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Good to see you. As always.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Kurt Warner]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made.

[Kurt Warner]

Listen to the 40s and free agents podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

That's literally like blood, sweat and Tears.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Kurt Warner]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Drew Brees]

A lot of fun seeing Kurt Warner. The argument kept going when we went to commercial break about inflating your football or deflating your football. If you can do it and I can do it, then it shouldn't be an issue for me. But as Kurt says, well, there is a rule in place. So therefore, why have a rule if you're not going to enforce it? I understand that, but kickers get their own football. And the fact that Aaron Rodgers said he over inflated the football, he wanted an over inflated football, but you know that that's. There's no drama attached to that because it doesn't have anything to do with the Patriots or Tom Brady. Okay, Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network draft analyst. And he'll be on the call tonight at 8 Eastern on NFL Network. He also has Move the Sticks podcast and former NFL scout as we make way for Daniel Jeremiah on the program.

[Kurt Warner]

Hey, Dan. See, man.

[Drew Brees]

All right, let's.

[Kurt Warner]

So I'm glad you finally got to the bottom of Kurt Hating Tom Brady.

[Drew Brees]

So that was fun.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That was good.

[Drew Brees]

As asterisk by Super Bowls for Tom Brady.

[Kurt Warner]

And he's been saying that behind the scenes for years. It was nice to see him finally come out here.

[Drew Brees]

That's great. He's going to love you for this. Did you ever see a Brady college tape?

[Kurt Warner]

I did, actually, but I was, you know, he was. Came into the league before I got into scouting. But we had. I started in 2003 and we do a thing when I was with the Ravens called scout school. So in the evenings at training camp, everybody had to do a presentation. And the idea was to let the whole group learn something and grow and. And somebody did the how we all screwed up on Tom Brady presentation and went through and kind of showed his tape, read all the reports and kind of went through the background.

[Drew Brees]

Okay, but wait a minute. He lost his job to Drew Henson. So everybody can look back and have revisionist history and say, man, I knew. Who knew?

[Kurt Warner]

Well, the interesting thing was it was more so in the background than it was in the. In the description of the play. Like it was. And I don't remember the exact words, but it was like, this guy's a maniacal competitor. You know, all the wiring stuff, all that stuff was just off the charts. And so, so the, the point of the process was sometimes if this. The skill levels meets the threshold, it's adequate and you have the elite, off, off the charts character, work ethic, all that stuff that those guys can be better now. No, there's no way anybody could ever know that he was going to do what he did. But there were some little nuggets and little morsels in there.

[Drew Brees]

What was a red flag when you were scouting?

[Kurt Warner]

Red flag. Gosh, I always thought it was a red flag. When you go back in the day when I was scouting, you had the video guys, because everybody didn't just have everything on their iPad. And if the video guys did not know the quarterback had no relationship with the quarterback, that always made me nervous because the guy has not been in there watching extra tape. That should be one of his best friends. How do I get access? I need to. I want to come in here and watch this. So that was just one kind of random.

[Drew Brees]

And I always thought if you were going to talk to somebody and get it, and I was told this. Talk to the equipment manager. Yeah, talk to people who are around. How does he treat people who aren't important per se? How is he in the locker, you know, those kind of things. And I remember running into a guy who worked at Washington State with Ryan Leaf.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

And he gave me a heads up without telling me. I mean, he was saying, boy, wait till you get a load of this. And I go, what do you mean? He goes, just saying. And, you know, so then I eventually found out what he was saying is the reputation with Ryan at the time was not a great teammate. Yeah. And, you know, there's other things in play with Ryan there, and maybe he shouldn't have been up as high as, you know, Pete, you know, now it was Peyton versus him, and nobody wins that competition battle.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah, no question.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I.

[Kurt Warner]

We always would do it at the combine. And when you're interviewing guys at all star games, one of the questions we would always ask is, if you can take one teammate with you, who would you want to play with at the next level? And it was kind of interesting because some guys will come up over and over and over again through that process.

[Drew Brees]

And we, you know, it's like character assassination. But it certainly felt like we needed a story. Now we got a unnamed scout or some, you know, executive who's talking bad about Shador Sanders. Has anybody said anything negative about somebody else in this draft as far as their personality or their ability to interview the.

[Kurt Warner]

I would say it this way. There's obviously going to be in almost every single player in every draft, there's going to be somebody in the draft room who's a fan and someone who's not. But with Shador this year, Dan, it is so. And I'm not comparing this players or people, but it is. It's so reminiscent to Johnny Manziel where the spotlight is so bright and there's never been more information coming out on a player than there has been on Chador. Again, totally different players and people, but I don't recall this much attention on one player since we had the Johnny Manziel draft.

[Drew Brees]

And I remember an executive saying, johnny was unbelievable as an interview.

[Kurt Warner]

Well, he was charismatic. Coming and fill the room.

[Drew Brees]

Yes.

[Kurt Warner]

I mean, his pro day is going to go down as one of the old timers. The guy put on pads, there was blaring music, and the former president of the United States was on the sideline watching.

[Drew Brees]

How did everybody miss on him?

[Kurt Warner]

I just think it was so fun. It was so tantalizing. I went and saw him play several times live, including in bowl games, and it was just so magical at the college level. And you had, you know, the. The Alabama program and where that group was, and you're like, this guy. Nobody can do this against them. And this Kid can. And then I always remembered is one of his first preseason games, it was on TV and I happened to tune in. It might have been against the Lions, if I'm not mistaken. And I remember texting my buddy Bucky Brooks because we had both been at a bowl game and sat next to each other and we kind of got taken in by this whole thing. And the first preseason game, I text him, I go, bucky, dang.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He looks little all of a sudden.

[Kurt Warner]

On a field with NFL guys that didn't look great, but all you had.

[Drew Brees]

To do is ask a couple of.

[Kurt Warner]

Questions about, oh, yeah, there was all the stuff that was.

[Drew Brees]

But could he have played in the NFL at a high level? Let's say he's focused. Let's say he's clean and committed. Did he have the traits to be able to be a successful quarterback?

[Kurt Warner]

I think he did.

[Drew Brees]

Given that style.

[Kurt Warner]

I. I think he did. And I know he would had to play a little bit more on time, a little bit more on schedule. But the guy, he. He had huge hands. He had a huge arm. He was obviously ultra athletic and creative. He just needed. You needed to kind of reel that stuff in. But we never got a chance because of the stuff off the field. We never got a chance to see what that could have looked like.

[Drew Brees]

It's like he wanted to be farve, but there's only one farve. Yeah.

[Kurt Warner]

And he was pocket farve because he was, you know, a much smaller guy.

[Drew Brees]

All right, we're talking to Daniel Jeremiah. He'll be the lead analyst on the draft coming up tonight. And that's NFL Network starting at 8 Eastern. The draft starts where? Now, let me get to your quote. Let me make sure I got it right. You got. Browns are taking Travis Hunter feels 100 like that.

[Kurt Warner]

There's been a lot of talk in the last 24 hours, which someone needs to write a book on the night before the draft. Rumors that never come true. They're fantastic. They really are fantastic. But there's been a lot. Oh, they could move out and maybe we'll all be shocked. And they do. But it all feels like that's going to be Travis.

[Drew Brees]

Okay. And then you. Your quote was he will major in offense, minor in defense, which has never been done. Do you agree with that approach, that he should be more offense than defense?

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I do.

[Kurt Warner]

I mean, that's how I see him. I think he's more impactful on offense. I don't think, you know, to me, as a corner, he's best when you kind of play him. Off when he's in zone, when he's an off man, he can see the picture, he can set traps, he can then go make plays on the ball. But this is not like Pat Surtan. You got this guy. And we will not worry about that side of the field. Like, that's not the style of corner he is. Whereas on offense, every time he touches the ball, he's impactful and I can get the ball in his hands a lot and he can help us win games and I can find ways for him to get on defense. But historically when you've had players and they had. Nobody's done it to the level he did in terms of the volume of snaps, but if it was a major minor, it was always okay, you have to learn this defense, be in the defensive meeting room and we'll sprinkle in a package of plays where it's a bubble screen, a reverse, you know, a go. And you don't necessarily have to meet, you know, with the offense. This one is the first time I can ever remember where I've thought, this kid, I want him full time on offense.

[Drew Brees]

I still get the feeling somebody's going up to get Ashton Genting and I, you know, I don't know what your intel is on that, but he feels like, I could tell by that reaction.

[Kurt Warner]

You went, he's my, he's my third player. I think there's three elite players in this draft and I think Cam Ward is a really good quarterback and I have no problem with Tennessee taking him. But to me, the three, like blue chip players in any draft are those three guys. Abdul, Carter, it's Hunter and it's Genti. So I, I love Genti. To me it's just around the league. You can get comfortable taking a running back there. But I just, I'd be curious to see if somebody's going to really move a lot of resources for a running back.

[Drew Brees]

But don't you think Saquon opened people's eyes here that if you. Now granted he was the missing piece. Yeah. On a Super bowl winning team. Whereas with the Giants he was good, but they weren't any good. So if Ashton Genti goes to Jacksonville, they're not very good. Or would the Patriots be squirrely enough to go, you know what, let's take this guy if he's going to be great there. Or do the Raiders wait and go, let him fall into our lap?

[Kurt Warner]

I brought this up with a general manager the other day and he goes, you realize like the four best running backs in the NFL last Year were all had in free agency. Like they were all out there for you. Like another example of everybody talks about you can draft them in any round and he's like, there's also going to be guys available in free agency every year. So his whole point was great player. We have him highly rated. If he's there, we'll pick him. But I just. In terms of taking a bunch of resources and going to get them, they were, you know, not so much into that.

[Drew Brees]

What is it like when you know that your organization is maybe starting to panic a little bit? Have you been in a situation where all of a sudden you're on the clock and the guy you thought you were getting is not there?

[Kurt Warner]

The, the. One of the stories I've told in the past is I was in Baltimore and we were a holodinata team. That was our guy. That's who we wanted. We had, we wanted to put a big guy in front of Ray Lewis and he was just the perfect pick. Well, Phil Savage at the time was the general manager of the Cleveland Browns and Phil had been with us in Baltimore and so Phil knew that we were going to like that type of player. So they're on the clock just in front of us and he calls Ozzy and they have the conversation and Phil's like, we're going to take hello Dinata. And Ozzy goes, okay, well, yeah, go ahead. He goes, well, you want to trade. And Ozzy, you know, we had. He ends up kind of putting him on hold and he's kind of looking around the room, he's like, they're not taking hello de nada. But he knows we want hello di nada. So he's trying to hold us up for a draft pick. And so I think it ended up being a sixth round pick. And Ozzy's, you know, obviously get so much wisdom and was like, look, we can call their bluff, but it's a six round pick and that guarantees that we get him. Just give him the six round pick and we'll go up and get him.

[Drew Brees]

We did some hot takes here. I want you to judge these. Marvin, give Daniel Jeremiah your hot take.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Jackson dart. He will go to the Los Angeles Rams at the end of the first half. And then my second one was. Oh my gosh, I think I forgot was too hot. Oh, I think Tyler Warren.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Going to the Patriots.

[Drew Brees]

Oh, with four overall.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah. I think that would put you in round three of hot ones. You know, I don't think that gets you to the. Yeah, to the playoffs. The hot Ones spicy. But look, the Rams, that's an option.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I.

[Kurt Warner]

When I talk to the guys in that building, I didn't get the sense. It kind of feels like they want to make a push right now. You bring, you know, you bring back your quarterback and you feel like you've got. You're this close to getting.

[Drew Brees]

So they're not going to.

[Kurt Warner]

So they want to help Matthew, not try and, you know, eventually replace him. So I would be surprised on that one.

[Drew Brees]

Warren.

[Kurt Warner]

It just. The. The Patriots seem pretty locked in that they have to get better at tackle. They were just so bad there last year, so that would surprise me as well.

[Drew Brees]

Todd, your hot takes.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

I had the Broncos Moving up from 20 to take Boise State Bronco. Ashton Gentry to become a Denver Bronco.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah, I think that's. There's a lot of talk about the two teams that could move up are the Broncos and the Eagles. Two teams that could be aggressive and with the Broncos.

[Drew Brees]

So that's not a hot take.

[Kurt Warner]

That's a legitimate take. It's not a hot take. That's a. That's very much mild. Like dipped in ranch.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, that's not.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. Legitimate takes, you know, we can't sell that.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

What about this one? The Cowboys move up from 12 to grab Tyler Warren, hoping for the next Jason Whitney nor Jay Novacek to join them.

[Kurt Warner]

What was the name of the guy that they took from LSU tight end. You remember that from way back in the day? Sternberger. No. I just opened up Pandora's box. There was Tony Gonzalez and this kid, and I remember Trachman was going to work out both of them, and then Tony Gonzalez goes on to the hall of Fame. The other. Did not. But we can get research on that. That one. I'll give you hot on that one. Your first one. Not hot.

[Drew Brees]

Seaton.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I have Tua Tungavailoa traded tonight to the. Either The Saints, Giants, 49ers or Steelers.

[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

Wow.

[Drew Brees]

Wow.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

You just. You just. You almost literally floored him. Yes.

[Kurt Warner]

I mean, it's. I could use some milk.

[Drew Brees]

Wow. That's a.

[Kurt Warner]

Trying to tame a tongue.

[Drew Brees]

Okay.

[Kurt Warner]

Tame a tongue here.

[Drew Brees]

Tame a tongue of violoa.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Drew Brees]

Vamos.

[Ryan Seacrest]

My other one is Trey Hendrickson, traded.

[Drew Brees]

Tonight to either the Packers, Lions, or Commanders.

[Kurt Warner]

I like that one. I think that's. I think that's spicy. I think that's. I think that's a fun one. That's a. That's a fun one.

[Drew Brees]

All right. The 2A Tonga Bailoa. You're not.

[Kurt Warner]

I would be. I mean, that would be incredible for Us, we'll have an unbelievable night. We'll fall out of our chairs.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, that's the thing. Like, you're trying to balance. Is it better to be something that's, like, more close to reality or something like. Yeah, that'd be crazy if that happened, because that's a hot take, right?

[Kurt Warner]

That's. That qualifies.

[Drew Brees]

You need a Laramie Tunsil night tonight because there's not enough great names in this draft.

[Kurt Warner]

Look, Dan, I grew up in the home with a father as a pastor, and I'm live on air. And I'll be honest with you, I don't know what's in that mask. I don't know what. I've never seen one of those things before.

[Drew Brees]

You've never smoked pot before?

[Kurt Warner]

No, but I. But I'd never seen that contraption.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah.

[Kurt Warner]

And they're like. I'm like. I don't even know how to respond to this. But I was like, he's a heck of a tackle. I can tell you.

[Drew Brees]

I'd take him high. Oh, no, no, no. I don't mean that way. All right, Paulie, your hot take for.

[Kurt Warner]

Daniel was that tight end of LSU, David LaFleur.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Kurt Warner]

Yes. Good poll. I looked it up. All right, the Patriots will trade down.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Out of four with the Bears.

[Kurt Warner]

The Bears will trade up to four.

[Ryan Seacrest]

To get Carter out of Penn State.

[Kurt Warner]

So I've heard. There's again, the last 24 hours, a lot of chatter about the Bears trying to be aggressive, to move up whether that was to three or to four. And Carter. Was the name lightly hot? Yeah, I think it's. I think it's hot, but I think it's. It's shared. I think that's. That's floating around. Jackson Dart will be drafted by the Saints at 9. I don't think so. I think the Saints go quarterback in round two. So that's a hot. I'll give you a hot take on that one. By the way, Dan, you asked Kurt what game keeps him up at night, and I just feel a little bit slighted that you didn't ask me that same question.

[Drew Brees]

I'm not done yet.

[Kurt Warner]

Okay. Okay.

[Drew Brees]

Appalachian state.

[Kurt Warner]

It was 1998, Western Carolina. It was a cold day in Colorway, and I just had tough time holding on to the ball. Dan, we lost the old mountain jug that day.

[Drew Brees]

Fumbles, interceptions.

[Kurt Warner]

Yes.

[Drew Brees]

And your draft stock.

[Kurt Warner]

Yeah, it's tough. That's a tough one for us.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. Who plays quarterback the way you played quarterback?

[Kurt Warner]

Who plays quarterback the way I played quarterback, man. Nobody in the NFL unfortunately, Dan Orlovsky. Oh yeah, Dan. Dan was a little better than I was.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, unfortunately he's Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network Lead analyst.

[Kurt Warner]

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[Kurt Warner]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Kurt Warner]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Kurt Warner]

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[Freddie Prinze Jr.]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Drew Brees]

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