The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: The Best of The Dan Patrick Show
Release Date: March 28, 2025
Hosted by iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Introduction and Sports Betting Updates

The episode kicks off with Dan Patrick and Todd Fritz diving into the latest sports action and betting insights. They discuss recent game outcomes and highlight key matchups heading into the Elite Eight of March Madness.

Key Highlights:

• Recent Game Outcomes:
  • Florida overcame Maryland.
  • Duke dominated Arizona.
  • Alabama showcased a strong performance against BYU and triumphed over Texas Tech in overtime against Arkansas.
• Upcoming Matchups:
  • Ole Miss versus Michigan State
  • Kentucky facing Tennessee
  • Michigan taking on Auburn
  • Purdue battling Houston

Betting Insights: According to DraftKings, the favored teams for the Elite Eight matchups include:

• Florida favored by 6.5 points over Texas Tech ([00:26]).
• Duke favored by 6.5 points over Alabama ([01:14]).

Dan Patrick [00:26]: "Then Duke against Alabama. Duke is favored by six and a half. That will be a rematch they played earlier this year at Cameron."

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Interactive Poll: Corn Dogs

Engaging the audience, Dan introduces a fun poll question about the timeless debate: Are corn dogs awesome or terrible? The conversation reflects on how perceptions of corn dogs change with age, highlighting nostalgia and evolving tastes.

Notable Quotes:

Todd Fritz [01:11]: "Corn dog is a staple."

Dan Patrick [01:24]: "And then your tastes change."

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Game Analysis: Arkansas vs. Lakers and Bulls Performance

The hosts delve into the dramatic collapse of the Lakers, who lost a significant lead against the Bulls. The discussion highlights strategic missteps and the impact of key plays in the final moments of the game.

Key Points:

• The Lakers lost a 16-point lead with 11 minutes left.
• In the final seconds, a misplayed inbounds pass led to a crucial three-pointer by Josh Giddy.
• Analysis of defensive lapses and player performance under pressure.

Notable Quotes:

Dan Patrick [02:56]: "3.3 left, 117, 116 Lakers Williams to Getty over the midcourt line. You know, he goes midcourt. Oh, it's gone, it's gone, it's gone."

Todd Fritz [03:09]: "What letter of the Bulls logo. What a ball game. Unbelievable."

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March Madness Predictions and Tournament Insights

As the tournament progresses, Dan and Todd discuss potential outcomes and standout teams. They emphasize the depth of competition and the unpredictability that March Madness brings each year.

Key Highlights:

• Discussion on the impact of higher seed spreads and the strength of top teams like Duke and Florida.
• Predictions on unexpected upsets and the performance of mid-major teams.
• Analysis of teams' defensive and offensive strategies that could influence their path to the Final Four.

Notable Quotes:

Dan Patrick [06:15]: "Alabama made 25 three pointers, that's the most... they're a basket away from still being alive in the tournament."

Todd Fritz [09:10]: "It's not just the soil that keeps secrets."

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Guest Segment: Clark Kellogg on College Basketball and March Madness

In a featured segment, CBS Sports' Clark Kellogg joins the show to provide expert analysis on the college basketball landscape and the ongoing March Madness tournament.

Discussion Points:

• Team Performances:

  • Arkansas’s remarkable tournament run and their adaptability in high-pressure situations.
  • Duke’s consistent performance and the addition of standout player Cooper Flagg.

• Player Spotlight:

  • Cooper Flagg: An 18-year-old phenom compared to Kevin Durant in playing style, noted for his mid-range shooting and playmaking abilities.

  Todd Fritz [19:30]: "What about style though? The style of play?"

  Dan Patrick [21:02]: "Similar builds, similar explosiveness. KD was such a remarkable shot maker even at an early age."

• NCAA Evolution:

  • Impact of the NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) policies and the transfer portal on team continuity and player development.
  • Insights into how experienced players are becoming the backbone of successful programs, shifting away from reliance on freshmen.

  Dan Patrick [24:32]: "You can get flash in the pan success doing it the other way, but you've got to have a blend of continuity."

• Tournament Predictions:

  • Duke and Florida as favorites, with Houston and Auburn also having strong chances.
  • Potential surprises from teams like Michigan, noted for their disciplined play and low turnover rates.

Notable Quotes:

Clark Kellogg [23:23]: "They put up 162 points. That's the most scored by one team in a non-overtime game since the Nuggets scored 168 back in 2008."

Dan Patrick [25:58]: "The quality of teams across the country has been elevated because of what you just said in terms of teams being older, the extra Covid year, the freedom of the transfer portal."

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Player Comparisons and NCAA Challenges

The conversation shifts to comparing college players to NBA stars, focusing on Cooper Flagg and other emerging talents. The hosts debate the fairness and impact of such comparisons on young athletes.

Key Points:

• Comparative Analysis:

  • Cooper Flagg likened to Kevin Durant for his versatile scoring and athleticism, though cautioning against premature comparisons to legends like Larry Bird.

  Dan Patrick [37:16]: "I thought he dominated the game last night with his passing. It was beautiful to watch."

• NCAA Constraints:

  • Criticism of the NCAA’s handling of the transfer portal and NIL, expressing concerns over the sustainability of smaller programs and the future landscape of college sports.

  Dan Patrick [39:25]: "The NCAA has screwed this thing up so much. I don't know how you put the toothpaste back in the tube."

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Controversial Moments: LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith Incident

A heated discussion emerges around an incident involving LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith. The hosts analyze the fallout from LeBron's comments and Stephen A.'s reactions, debating the implications for both figures and their public personas.

Discussion Points:

• Incident Breakdown:

  • LeBron James publicly criticized Stephen A. Smith, leading to tension between the two.
  • Examination of the media’s role in escalating conflicts and the personal impact on the individuals involved.

  Dan Patrick [44:16]: "They both had an awful week. LeBron, he's too big to be that type of bully."

• Host Perspectives:

  • Dan expresses frustration with the negative attention both figures received, emphasizing the importance of maintaining professionalism and avoiding personal attacks.

  Dan Patrick [46:37]: "There are only losers in this scenario, us as the sports media... they have no life, Dan."

Notable Quotes:

Todd Fritz [50:11]: "J.J. Redick, put him in the game. Do you think LeBron goes, hey, put him in on Ty Tyrese, Maxi torches just about everybody who guards him."

Dan Patrick [51:45]: "LeBron's a nice guy. That's why I don't like the fact because he really came off as a bully in this entire thing."

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Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Dan and Todd reflect on the dynamic nature of college basketball, the influence of experienced players, and the evolving strategies teams employ to navigate the competitive landscape of March Madness. They emphasize the excitement and unpredictability that make the tournament a beloved spectacle each year.

Closing Remarks:

Dan Patrick [55:32]: "Nothing's ever as simple as you think. The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that."

Todd Fritz [55:30]: "Have fun tonight."

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Notable Quotes Overview

• Dan Patrick [00:26]: "Then Duke against Alabama. Duke is favored by six and a half. That will be a rematch they played earlier this year at Cameron."

• Dan Patrick [01:24]: "And then your tastes change."

• Dan Patrick [02:56]: "3.3 left, 117, 116 Lakers Williams to Getty over the midcourt line. You know, he goes midcourt. Oh, it's gone, it's gone, it's gone."

• Todd Fritz [19:30]: "What about style though? The style of play?"

• Clark Kellogg [23:23]: "They put up 162 points. That's the most scored by one team in a non-overtime game since the Nuggets scored 168 back in 2008."

• Dan Patrick [25:58]: "The quality of teams across the country has been elevated because of what you just said in terms of teams being older, the extra Covid year, the freedom of the transfer portal."

• Dan Patrick [37:16]: "I thought he dominated the game last night with his passing. It was beautiful to watch."

• Todd Fritz [50:11]: "J.J. Redick, put him in the game. Do you think LeBron goes, hey, put him in on Ty Tyrese, Maxi torches just about everybody who guards him."

• Dan Patrick [51:45]: "LeBron's a nice guy. That's why I don't like the fact because he really came off as a bully in this entire thing."

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Final Notes

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive look into the current state of college basketball, March Madness dynamics, and the evolving challenges within the NCAA framework. Through insightful discussions and expert guest contributions, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the strategies, player performances, and administrative shifts shaping the tournament.

For more engaging discussions and in-depth sports analysis, tune into future episodes of The Dan Patrick Show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick.

[Todd Fritz]

Show on Fox Sports Radio. Florida handles Maryland. Duke dominates Arizona. Alabama look great against byu and Texas Tech in overtime over Arkansas. Games coming up later on tonight, Ole Miss or Ole Miss is getting three and a half against Michigan State. Kentucky getting four and a half against Tennessee. Michigan is getting eight and a half against Auburn and Purdue getting eight and a half against Houston. We already have the point spreads. According to draftkings for the Elite Eight matchups, Florida will be favored by six and a half over Texas Tech. And Duke against Alabama. Duke is favored by six and a half. That will be a rematch they played earlier this year at Cameron. All right, Seaton, what's poll question today? Well, well, we might as well get right into it. Corn dogs good? Terrible. I, I would put awesome. Okay, we go with awesome and terrible. If you want is the option. But isn't it like you go to a fair and then you have a corn dog? I don't know any other places where you go. You know, I'm going to have a corn dog. Yes, Todd, I think the venue, you're right.

[Dan Patrick]

Matters a lot if you're at some carnival or you're going around going on.

[Todd Fritz]

Rides in an amusement park.

[Dan Patrick]

But if you, hey, what's for dinner tonight?

[Todd Fritz]

And there's a corn dog on your.

[Dan Patrick]

Plate, you're probably a little disappointed.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, Paulie.

[Dan Patrick]

I would say age 12 and younger.

[Todd Fritz]

Corn dog is a staple.

[Dan Patrick]

And then your tastes change.

[Todd Fritz]

Like once you get to like your 20s, corn dog is not a one, seat. I don't know. Really? Yeah, yeah. Give me a little mustard on a corn dog. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. Maybe it's the inner child in me that comes out forever young.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan.

[Todd Fritz]

Thank you, Todd. Thank you, Seaton. Thank you, Paulie. Thank you, Marvin. You make me younger on this program. We got another one here from Marvin. Oh, what's worse to lose a 16 point lead with 11 minutes left or a 5 point lead with 12 seconds left? Both happened last night. Arkansas. Yikes. The Lakers, you could see the Arkansas lead start to diminish right before you're very like, you're watching this and you're going, oh my God, they could lose this game drip by drip. Yes. Yes. That was a guillotine for the Lakers. Like the Lakers. You just don't want to get caught where you're going to face Oklahoma City in the second round. You don't, you don't want any part of that. And you know you got nine games to go and you lose a game like that Chicago's been trying to lose games and then they end up winning. And LeBron did not have a good 13 seconds at the end of the game. You know, the previous night you had a great, you know, final quarter and the tip in to win the game. This one, his guy hits a three lazy inbounds pass. And then I think they forgot that Josh Giddy was going to take a shot at half court. Here's how it sounded.

[Dan Patrick]

3.3 left, 117, 116Lakers Williams to Getty over the midcourt line. You know, he goes midcourt. Oh, it's gone, it's gone, it's gone.

[Todd Fritz]

Bulls, Red Bulls.

[Dan Patrick]

W Josh. The big part from the Bulls logo. What a ball game. Unbelievable.

[Todd Fritz]

Crazy, crazy. You get Austin Reaves getting the go ahead basket and then all of a sudden they forgot how much time was on the clock or that somebody might actually get a decent look at half court. And they didn't really challenge Josh Giddy for that three pointer. Yes, he is Josh Giddy and forgive me for not knowing this. Is Josh Giddy the kind of fellow you have to worry about in that situation? Somebody get on Josh Giddy? Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

From.

[Todd Fritz]

From half court? Well, whoever has the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't care. I mean, you're not going to have a big man get the ball there. You got a guard and he, they, I mean, he got a chance to get his feet set. Yeah, I mean, they did. They didn't pick him up at all. No, there wasn't anybody within 20ft of him. Yeah, I, I mean anybody is a weapon in that situation because they're going to get the ball. They passed it to him, so they had something at least scripted there. I kind of felt like watching that they were like not worried about him taking the shot. It's somebody else that we need to worry about. Well, Kobe White, I would have been concerned if he was taking it, but they sort of said, oh, yeah. How much time is left? Three, two. Oh, okay. Josh going to take. Oh, my God. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin isn't the most dangerous guy. The guy who inbounds the ball.

[Todd Fritz]

Usually you run a lot of plays for that.

[Dan Patrick]

There you go.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, that. You know, Leitner hit a shot in the NCAA tournament where against Connecticut, where he inbounds the ball and then they go right back to him and then he hits the jump shot to win the game. Chris Jenkins at Villanova, I believe he took it out and then came up as the trailer and ended up winning the NCAA tournament championship with that. All right, so that's one poll question. Is corn dog terrible or awesome? Right. We got that. We've got. What's worse to lose the a 16 point lead with 11 minutes left or a 5 point lead with 12 seconds left. We could also throw out there, too. Should basketball games be played in football stadiums? Sure, why not? Or heck no. Well, that ship has sailed because that's all about money. And Devin Booker just tweeted earlier that shouldn't be doing that. That's the basis of that question. Yeah, well, it's going to be in San Antonio and the Alamo Dome. I mean, this, this is what we've been doing. Go Back to what, 1968 when UCLA played Houston in a regular season game and they played in the Astrodome and the fans were so far from the court like it was. It was just weird to see it. Players complained about the backdrop there, you know, when you're shooting and what's behind the backboard. But yeah, we've kind of graduated to this because this is big business. They're not, they're not looking for intimacy when it comes to showcasing the Final Four. Yes, Marvin.

[Dan Patrick]

So they're not going back to the pit in Albuquerque?

[Todd Fritz]

Probably not. Okay, probably not. Yeah. Paulie.

[Dan Patrick]

The attendance for the national title game.

[Todd Fritz]

Last year was 74, 000 people. Not going back. Yeah, yeah. You know, the Alabama game against byu, I kept waiting for BYU to step up its perimeter defense and they kept letting Alabama shoot. And Mark Sears is wonderful. Alabama made 25 three pointers, that's the most. And the previous mark was one of my favorite teams loyal to Marymount, 1990. But Mark Sears made 10 of 16 three pointers. And you attempt 51, but you're hitting 25, chances are you're going to win the game. And they scored in triple digits for the ninth time this season. But that was one of those shooting performances where they started early. And then I kept waiting for BYU to get out on the perimeter and, and force them to, you know, dribble, to maybe go inside. And they never did. But Alabama, fun to watch, certainly looked great last night. Now they got Duke coming up next. So we'll talk to Clark Kellogg of cbs. He'll join us next hour. Charles Barkley will join us in the final hour of the program. We'll settle on a poll question. Any other poll questions for the first hour, aside from corn dogs? Well, there's a little bit of scuttlebutt if LeBron James should have been the one inbounding the ball. Or do you inbound the ball to LeBron James. The end of that sort of Lakers mini collapse. He didn't have a good 5 seconds. 5 to 7 seconds at the end of the game there. It was just lazy. It was just sort of a. And then Josh Giddy got the steal. Kobe White hits the three. And then all of a sudden Reeves scores. And then somebody forgets to pick up Josh Giddy or at least contest the shot. And then they end up losing. But these are those g. I mean, you can't lose to the Bulls.

[Dan Patrick]

That's the thing.

[Todd Fritz]

Some losses feel worse because who you lost to, like the Bulls got rid of some of their good players. They were trying to be bad, you're trying to be good and you end up losing that game. And that's where you kind of just hang around. The Bulls were just hanging around. You kept waiting for the Lakers to go, okay, let's go, let's move on, let's dust these guys off. I watched a little bit of the Indiana Pacers. Now granted it's against the Wizards. Well, they put up 162 points. No overtime needed. 162. That's the most scored by one team in a non overtime game since the Nuggets scored 168 back in 2008. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day.

[Dan Patrick]

Here comes that. What?

[Todd Fritz]

Stat of the day brought to you by Panini the America. The official trading cards of the program. Don't look now, but the Clippers are creeping up on the Lakers. The Rockets have won nine of 10. Oklahoma City has won nine in a row. So we've got about nine games for each team closing out the regular season. And you start to jockey for position and this is where you start to look at the matchups and you say, you know what, we're okay in the eight seed or we're okay with the seven seed. Like we like our matchups there. It's just you don't want to get into a situation where you go, oh, and you don't want Oklahoma City. They're the best team in basketball. You do not want them. And the Lakers could be falling, falling right into that position where they got OKC second round. Yeah, Paulie, the Thunder are winning their.

[Dan Patrick]

Games this season by an average of 13 points.

[Todd Fritz]

That's the best in the league by three points. Yeah, they've been the best team. Wire to wire, consistent. And yes, we're going to look at them the same way we're going to look at the Cavaliers. How Are you going to perform when the spotlight's on you? Okc, Are they ready like Houston? This almost seems like this is a fact finding mission for Houston, that I don't know how good they're going to be in the playoffs. I told you that was a team that I was looking out for during the regular season. I thought that they could make that jump. I didn't know they'd be the two seed here. But this might be a fact finding mission of, you know, what we're going to lose, but we're going to learn from this. And then the following season, that's when you start to see something unique. Maybe the Pistons are like that. There's certain teams where you go, this isn't the year, but next year might be the year like okc. You know, you got to lose. The Pistons went through this when they had to go through the Celtics. You know, the Bulls had to go through this. You know, a lot of great teams have to go through that where you almost, you know, lose. You learn by losing of what you need to do to win. And I think that's the important part with some of these. You know, OKC's got a young team. I mean, they're. They're a bunch of guys. Average age is like 23. And I don't know, are you ready to be the team in the NBA? You know, the Celtics, if you look at them, how many big games they've played, and they're not the favorites OKC is. But if you said they played against each other, you'd probably lean towards Boston because of that experience. Yes, Marv, in today's NBA, I'm not.

[Dan Patrick]

As excited as I would have been, say, if this was 20 years ago, because a lot of these guys are going to command top dollar. When you have a bunch of good draft picks, they're kind of doing what the Cowboys are. Hey, they drafted great. Now we got to pay all these guys.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

So they have maybe one or two years until people start kind of going off into free agency and getting paid.

[Todd Fritz]

All right. 8 7, 7, 3 DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle @DP show odds to win March Madness it is Duke and then Florida. So those are the two big favorites, followed by Houston, Auburn, then Alabama. So really it's Auburn, Houston, Florida and Duke. They have the best odds. Alabama, Texas Tech, Tennessee, Michigan State, they're well down the list. Ole Miss is at the bottom of the odds to win March Madness.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

To 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.

[Dan Patrick]

On Fox Sports and of course, the iHeartRadio app.

[Todd Fritz]

Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out.

[Dan Patrick]

We like to get you involved, too.

[Todd Fritz]

Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe Noanrich wherever.

[Dan Patrick]

You get your podcast.

[Todd Fritz]

And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

[Dan Patrick]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation. It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Todd Fritz]

Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that.

[Dan Patrick]

Get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Todd Fritz]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all former patients of the old state asylum.

[Dan Patrick]

And nobody knew they were there. It was my family's mystery. But in this corner of the south.

[Todd Fritz]

It'S not just the soil that keep secrets. Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Dan Patrick]

When you peel back the layers of.

[Todd Fritz]

Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Dan Patrick]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm Larison Campbell.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

Why is my cat not here and.

[Dan Patrick]

I go in and she's eating my lunch? Or if hypnotism. You will use the suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new I Heart original podcast Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This may never work for you. What's a quantum computer?

[Todd Fritz]

It's not just a faster computer, it performs in a fundamentally different way.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

In fact, you might even say it backfired spectacularly. I'm Ed Helms, and on season three of my podcast, SNAFU, we're taking you back to the 1920s and the tale of Formula Six. Because what you probably don't know about Prohibition is that American citizens were dying in massive numbers due to poisoned liquor. And all along, an unlikely duo was trying desperately to stop the corruption behind it. They were like superhero crusaders turning the page on a system that didn't work, wasn't fair, and was corrupt. So how did prohibition's war on alcohol go so off the rails that the government wound up poisoning its own people? To find out, listen and subscribe to snafu on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare. Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone.

[Todd Fritz]

Else'S body parts on my body parts.

[Dan Patrick]

That looked exactly like my own. I wanted to throw up.

[Todd Fritz]

I wanted to scream.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

You got the games coming up tonight. Clark Kellogg is there to observe and then tell us what he observed. He's CBS Sports college basketball analyst and the former first round pick by the Pacers, Special K. Good to talk to you again. Where do you want to start? What's, what's the game that we should be talking about? The result today was be hard to.

[Dan Patrick]

Not to talk about the the Alabama game if you're looking at what they did last night as far as a record setting performance from behind the three point line. That was remarkable. And Duke again, Cooper Flagg has been added as advertised all season long. He's a remarkable two way player and what he does at both ends of the floor with a moxie and a maturity and a joy that is hard to compare to for a first year guy in recent memory.

[Todd Fritz]

But we love these player comps. So I don't know if you delve into this, but if you were going to do a player comp For Cooper flag, 18 year old Cooper Flag, who would your player comp be?

[Dan Patrick]

Man, I don't know if I have one, Dan. I try to avoid that just because it's pressurizing and not always fair to either party. So I'll reserve judgment on that one because I really don't have anybody in mind.

[Todd Fritz]

What about style though? The style of play?

[Dan Patrick]

That's a great question. I would need to give it some more thought. I love his athleticism, his tenacity and I mentioned this joy and exuberance that he plays with that's special. I mean you can tell that he loves to play, he loves being on the floor, he loves being part of a team and he's growing into allowing his talent to give him the permission to stand up and stand out and that's a process.

[Todd Fritz]

I just worry because we like to go from 0 to 60. So Cooper Flagg is the next Larry Bird. Yeah, well, he's not. That's not fair. I said if he has the career that Kevin Love has had, that would be a good career. But he reminds me a little bit of Kevin Durant. I think that he can get that mid range like he likes contact, variety of shots, inside, outside. And so I see a little bit of Kevin Durant style wise.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

In his game.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that. I mean, similar builds, similar explosiveness. KD was such a remarkable shot maker even at an early age, and he only refined it as he became a Hall of Fame pro. I don't see Cooper shooting it quite as well right now at this stage, but I could see where that comparison would come to mind. Again, similar builds, the same kind of exuberance. KD plays with that same type of reckless, abandoned kind of joy. I'm lost in the game. Nothing else matters. And you love seeing that in players that have the skill set that the Cooper flag has. I mean, he made some play passes last that were absolutely. I mean, that's another level. When you see a guy see a frame ahead, a frame and a half ahead and make plays on the move at his size, that's another degree of specialness in my mind.

[Todd Fritz]

Is the tournament better when we hate Duke? Because this is a team that people don't hate this team. I mean, this is just a good, a great team. But there's no villain on there.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan, you know, I love whatever the tournament gives us every year. And that's the beautiful thing about this three weeks. Whatever your particular flavor of choice is, if you need a villain, if you need a dominant team, if you want Cinderellas, you're going to find what you want. And even if you don't in a given year, it still is going to deliver and captivate. It's just the magic and nature of a three week, one and done run to a championship. From 68 teams to one shining moment. And on that journey, there's going to be something that surprises you, and a lot of it is going to move you and captivate you, even if you're not a Rabbit fan.

[Todd Fritz]

Wait, did CBS write that for you? That sounds like a promotional, like a commercial.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I do my. I do my own writing.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay. Clark Kellogg, CBS Sports college basketball analyst Did Arkansas have a great year this year?

[Dan Patrick]

I think they had a really good second half of the season and a remarkable tournament run. I think you can separate. Regular season was turbulent and bumpy and disjointed, but Cal thrives in that type of environment. I thought he did it when he was the first to really embrace the one and done era. And he may have been the only coach who could have successfully embraced that 8, 9, 10 year period where he was resetting his roster every year and still competing at a high level. And he had a team this year that went through some difficulty from a personnel standpoint. Injury guys establishing roles and then had them playing at a high level. They're a basket away from still being alive in the tournament. So I think a remarkable tournament run and a really good second half of the year where the Hawks found themselves and played some really good basketball.

[Todd Fritz]

Aside from Duke, most of these teams aren't relying on freshmen. That there. There's been a. And I don't know if it's temporary, but there has been a shift in bringing in the players who have experience.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

Feels like that's the model and I've been saying that Calipari needed to do that. At Kentucky, you're getting all these guys, but they're there for six months. The guys you're losing to are players who have been there for two and three years getting, getting like some kind of happy medium there. And I don't know if that's the new philosophy in college basketball.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think when you're going, when you're talking about sustainable success, I think continuity is important. Dan, whatever business you're in, leadership continuity, roster continuity, personnel continuity, it's significantly important to sustainable success. You can get flash in the pan success doing it the other way, but you've got to have a blend of continuity. And you're right. Because of the landscape. Nil, the transfer portal, there are far more older teams in the country. And I thought there was a chance we might not see any one seeds in the final Four about six, seven, eight weeks ago. Because the quality of teams across the country, I thought it really been elevated because of what you just said in terms of teams being older, the extra Covid year, the freedom of the transfer portal, and a number of rosters were being constituted through a little bit of recruiting and retention and a lot of adding more experienced, talented older players.

[Todd Fritz]

You played against Larry and Magic?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

And Michael.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he came in two years. He came in with Barkley. So they were two years after I got drafted.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay. Tougher to guard.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, my goodness, I didn't have to guard any of those guys. I did guard Bird a little bit. And he was a handful because he was so much stronger. Then he appeared and he was such a great competitor and player. Michael obviously was another Level at his position and in the game. Guys that gave me the greatest challenge. The guy who I didn't like to see at all was Bernard King. He was with the Knicks at the time, and he was salivating the whole game for opportunities to give you the business. I'm not, not just going through the motions, salivating to give you the business. So he was a hard, hard cover. His intensity, his quickness, his shot making ability, and the fact that they ran an awful lot of the offense. Hubie Brown was coaching at the time, and Bernard got touches probably 60% of the time they had the ball.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, you know, if not for that knee injury, I mean, Bernard was. He was buckets man, oh man.

[Dan Patrick]

Big time, big time.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. And he was 6, 6. But he'd take you down on the blocks and he was gonna, he was gonna come. He rise up on you.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he's cooking. Yeah, he had the quick release and he had an array of moves, but the quickness of his jump and release is really what allowed him to do such damage against bigger guys with his back to the goal.

[Todd Fritz]

Your favorite Charles Barkley story is what?

[Dan Patrick]

I actually got the better of Charles, and he'll probably tell you this. There were three guys he kind of looked at as he was thinking about being a pro and kind of pattern his game after, and it was Adrian Dantley, John Drew and me. And my first meeting with Charles, I got the best of him. And he told me afterwards that he was maybe just a tad in awe because I was kind of a guy he had looked up to. But we unfortunately had to play them within a matter of a week or two of me getting the best of him. The prior meeting and the second meeting, he came at me like he wanted to kill me. I mean, he was coming hard into my body, reckless, and actually got the better of me in that second meeting. I don't know if he'll recall it quite the way I do, but when you're on the receiving end of his force and physicality, it has a tendency to stay on your hard drive for a long time.

[Todd Fritz]

Give me, give me the surprise tonight of the games.

[Dan Patrick]

The surprise.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Man, we got Houston, Purdue, Kentucky, Tennessee. I tell you, Michigan's an interesting team to me in that Auburn matchup. Auburn's been really good. Six guys have averaged double digits in the tournament. They've been the best and most consistent team all season. But I sense there might be a little bit out of kilter there. The two big guys. That would be the surprise of the games that I'M looking at if Michigan takes care of the ball, if they can squeeze that orange. And they've done it pretty well. Only 23 turnovers in the first two tournament games. They had averaged 13 or 14 a game during the regular season. They take care of the ball and get good guard play. I think they might be able to pull a surprise. And part of that is to jab Charles, too. You know, he'll be on pins and needles. He'll be on pins and needles watching this one tonight with his beloved alma mater. So, yeah, I'm taking a jab at him. But also, even though I'm a Buckeye, I do like to see the Big Ten succeed in these postseason tournaments. So I'm leaning at that one as a potential surprise.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, I'm with you on that because you got two seven footers for Michigan. Yeah. Not something we normally see in college basketball, but, yeah, Michigan kind of sneaky good this year. But hey, it's great to catch up with you, as always, and thanks for joining. Great job. It's like you're cleaning up after the elephant in the circus.

[Dan Patrick]

That's a little strong, dad.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, when you're there with Charles and you're not quite sure if he's watching the game or watching the game he's supposed to be watching, and then all of a sudden, Ernie has to go to you, and it's like, Clark. And then you'll break down what you saw in the first half.

[Dan Patrick]

Good stuff, man. Great to be with you. Always a pleasure. Enjoy your time with Charles, too. It'll be fun.

[Todd Fritz]

Thank you, Clark.

[Dan Patrick]

Be sure to catch the live edition.

[Todd Fritz]

Of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at.

[Dan Patrick]

9Am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports.

[Todd Fritz]

Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Dan Patrick]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.

[Todd Fritz]

It's terrible, terrible dirt. Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that.

[Dan Patrick]

Get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Todd Fritz]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all former patients of the old state asylum.

[Dan Patrick]

And nobody knew they were there. It was my family's mystery. But in this corner of the south.

[Todd Fritz]

It'S not just the soil that keeps secrets. Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Dan Patrick]

When you peel back the layers of.

[Todd Fritz]

Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Dan Patrick]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that. I'm Larison Campbell, listen to Under Yazoo Clay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast.

[Todd Fritz]

Or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you?

[Todd Fritz]

Why is my cat not here and.

[Dan Patrick]

I go in and she's eating my lunch? Or if hypnotism is real, you will use the suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new I Heart original podcast Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This may never work for you. What's a quantum computer?

[Todd Fritz]

It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue. It's more of a comfort issue. We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Prohibition it's no secret that banning alcohol didn't stop people from living it up in the 1920s.

[Todd Fritz]

When we're five years into prohibition, the government is starting to go, okay, this isn't working.

[Dan Patrick]

In fact, you might even say it backfired spectacularly. I'm Ed Helms, and on season three of my podcast, SNAFU, we're taking you back to the 1920s and the tale of Formula Six. Because what you probably don't know about Prohibition is that American citizens were dying in massive numbers due to poisoned liquor. And all along, an unlikely duo was trying desperately to stop the corruption behind it. They were like superhero crusaders turning the page on a system that didn't work, wasn't, and was corrupt. So how did prohibition's war on alcohol go so off the rails that the government wound up poisoning its own people? To find out, listen and subscribe to snafu on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare. Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone.

[Todd Fritz]

Else'S body parts on my body.

[Dan Patrick]

Parts that looked exactly like my own. I wanted to Throw up.

[Todd Fritz]

I wanted to scream.

[Dan Patrick]

It happened in Levittown, New York. But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deep fake pornography. This should be illegal, but what is this? This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carville. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the.

[Todd Fritz]

Podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told.

[Dan Patrick]

Join me every week as I tell.

[Todd Fritz]

Some of the most enthralling true crime.

[Dan Patrick]

Stories about women who are not just.

[Todd Fritz]

Victims, but heroes or villains or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories.

[Dan Patrick]

Ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

He's one of the faces of CBS's March to Madness. San Antonio. The road to San Antonio. Hall of famer Charles Barkley back on the show. What do you see? Who do you see when you look at Cooper Flag?

[Dan Patrick]

I see Cooper Flag. I see he's a terrific young player. He looks amazing on television. Can't wait to see him in the NBA. I hate doing that. I hate when guys on television try to compare. First of all, to say he's already somebody in the NBA is being unfair to that person in the NBA. What's scary, Dan, that kid should be a senior in high school. Now, that would be unfair. That would be if he played in high school. That would be unfair. Some of the passes he was making last night was incredible. But I think we do a disservice to a lot of these guys. Like, I think Michael Jordan is killed more people than the plague. You know, this guy's the next Michael Jordan. You don't turn out to be Michael Jordan. This kid is really talented. He's really smart. I can't wait to meet him. Seems like a really nice kid because he. Because he could have had. In my day, we call the big head. He was the best high school player in the country. He came in with all the pressure on him, and he's lived up to the hype. He hasn't had any missteps. You know, people out to get you when you're famous, especially when you 17, 18 year old kid, but I'm not going to compare. I'm not. First of all, it'd be a disservice to me to compare him to a great NBA player, but man, he's, he's a pleasure to watch.

[Todd Fritz]

What about skills? I like not necessarily saying that he is that player but like I see a little bit of Kevin Durant with mid range jumper. Like he can shoot the three, so he's not Kevin Durant, but I do see, you know everybody's going to jump right to Larry Bird. Well, that's not fair to Bird, it's not fair to Cooper. Flag. Yeah, but tendencies or their game.

[Dan Patrick]

Tell you this, I thought he dominated the game last night with his passing. You know, he scored a good amount of points, but his passing was the difference in the game. And every time they needed something he made to play. His ability to off the dribble is incredible. It was incredible to watch because you know, I've been studying a lot of tape. But now when you see these guys in big moments, like that was probably, that was probably their first big moment. I think that was the first team they played. They're like, oh, they got a chance to lose in this game. And he stepped up, man, it was, it was beautiful to watch.

[Todd Fritz]

Who else has stood out in this tournament if you look at them at the next level playing in the NBA?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the kid from Florida, Layton. I don't, I just need to know what his size is, you know, because you know all these guys, if he's big enough, he going to be a hell of a pro player because he's a terrific college player. The kid Nelson at Alabama, I think he's. Now I'm really looking forward to that matchup with him and Cooper because let me tell you something, that Nelson kid at Alabama is terrific. And Cooper, that's going to be a great matchup. I cannot wait to watch that matchup. Jennifer Broom at Auburn has been fantastic all year. I can't wait to watch that game. Michigan State is the most interesting team. They probably got about three or four guys who are going to play in the NBA who don't look like great college players. They're really, really good players. They don't, they, they just, they don't jump off the screen like Cooper and those guys do. But Michigan State, their team is like, man, they're gonna have three or four guys who I think gonna play in the pros.

[Todd Fritz]

You start to look at the model now in college basketball. I don't know if it's just this year but you're seeing less freshmen aside from Duke have an impact in March Madness. It's a lot of guys who were older. Transfer portal. Do you think that that is the next wave? That that's where a lot of teams are going to say that's the blueprint?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, it's already out of hand with the transfer portal. Dan. First of all, let me just say this. I the ncaa, they are the most stupid, idiotic people, jackasses in the world. Like, they've already ruined college sports with this nil thing. And I'm not against players making money just out of the wild, wild west right now. But to have a transfer portal in the middle of March Madness got to be one of the stupidest things that I've ever seen in my life. Just when you think they can't get any more stupid, they trump themselves and had a transfer portal in the middle of March Madness. And I think what you're seeing now is it's just free agency. Every year the smaller schools are going to get less and less important because if you're a smaller player, they're just going to cherry pick you every year. Like, if you went to a lower a mid major, if you have a good year, they're coming to get you because they going to be able to pay more. So I don't know how this thing gonna turn out. I just think the NCAA has screwed this thing up so much. I don't know how you put the toothpaste back in the tube. I've said this before. I think in two to three or four years, we're gonna have 25 programs and that's it. And I hear guys talking about a salary cap. The big schools ain't gonna go for no salary cap. They have the most money. Why would the Dodgers want a salary cap? The Dodgers don't want a salary cap. You see all those other teams whining in baseball and I'm like, is it unfair what the Dodgers doing? I think it's 100% unfair what they're doing, but they don't. If I'm a football school like Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, I don't want a cap. I can pay the most money and get the best players.

[Todd Fritz]

The difference between the college game and the NBA game, watching it, which one is better to watch, in your opinion?

[Dan Patrick]

I think the college game is better to watch because, you know, they're not just out there. They don't even look for twos anymore. In the NBA, they don't even look for twos. It's a, hey, we're going to come to the gym, we're going to jack up the most threes. If we hit them, we're going to win. We miss them. We're going to say, we didn't make enough shots tonight, we didn't make enough threes. But when they make them, it looks great. I'm like, yeah, it does look great if you make them. But that's the problem if you're not making them. Everybody says, man, y'all just shoot a lot of threes and they don't go in. But we got a lot of great players in the NBA. You know, I've been very critical of some people. Not like what Shay Gilgames Alexander is doing this year is incredible. I mean, you know, last year people thought it was a fluke when they, when the Thunder had the best record in the NBA. Now they doubled down like, nah, we are the best team in the NBA. They went out and plugged a couple holes they had with Caruso and Hardenstein. What the Cleveland Cavaliers are doing this year is flat out incredible. I mean, the Cleveland Cavaliers, like, I, I think they can beat the Boston Celtics. There's three teams that win the championship. The Thunder, the Celtics, and the Cavs. That's it. Everybody else just playing, they get, just getting participation trophies.

[Todd Fritz]

The Lakers, chances, you're.

[Dan Patrick]

They got zero chance. I told you that a month ago. People went crazy. People went crazy when they had like two good weeks, you know, Dan, anytime you make a trade, you get a bump. They got a Luca bump now. They got there where they are, you know. But I was like, no, the Lakers are not contenders. It drives me crazy. They won some games and they were going to get a bump. You get Luke, you're going to get a bump. Same thing when Jimmy Butler got a bump when he went to the Warriors. But it's OKC world and probably Denver is probably the second best team in the West. But listen, they're all playing for second place. Nobody can beat the Thunder. I don't see anybody beating the Thunder.

[Todd Fritz]

Is Charles Barkley, the Hall of Famer? Who had a better week, LeBron James or Stephen A. Smith?

[Dan Patrick]

They both had an awful week. They both had an awful week. LeBron, he's too big to be that type of bully. To bully Stephen A. And to bully Brian Windhorse. Brian Woodhorse is a sweet person, man. He's just trying to do his thing. And I've always liked LeBron, but him being a bully, it turned me off, Dan. But I will say that Stephen A. The way he reacted was so lame and weak. And Stephen A. Is a good dude, man, for him to react. LeBron, like I say, I blame him for starting the bullying going on Pat's show, just bullying people. Because you know LeBron, he's a control freak. He knows everything he's doing. Yeah, he knows everything he's doing. He knew when he walked up to Stephen A. What he was doing. But the way Stephen A. Reacted, going on Gilbert's podcast, talking tough. And I said, come on, man, you're better than that. So there's only. There's only losers, Dan, in this scenario, us as the. The sports media, you got the biggest star in the game. You probably got the biggest star on television. And they both look bad, in my opinion. And what. What bothers me the most, they both good dudes. Like, I don't mind people who are an asshole looking bad. I don't mind that at all. They deserve it. But Stephen A. Is a good dude, and LeBron is good dude. But they both look really bad this week. They both had a bad week. To answer your question, LeBron started it, and Stephen A. I'm not sure what he was trying to do. He just made it worse and worse and worse. And then I saw the thing last night. We had to come out and apologize for saying LeBron didn't go to Kobe's memorial. I'm like, dude, what the hell are you doing?

[Todd Fritz]

Well, they both know what they're doing. They both get attention. They like attention.

[Dan Patrick]

Then the one thing you can always say about me, I never had personal attacks on people. I've criticized people. That's part of our job, telling the truth. It can never be personal.

[Todd Fritz]

But are you searching for attention? No, they are.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but it's not good attention. That, Dan, It. That. That. See the problem? Okay. That's a great thing you made. In my day, any publicity was good publicity. Remember that old saying? Yeah, but the problem now is when you put BS out there. Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry and Louise got an opinion, and they're gonna make it worse. That's the problem with today. Like I say, and I hate to talk about my day, in my old day. Yeah, you got publicity, good or bad. It was actually probably a good thing. But the problem is every food idiot and jackass got an opinion now because they got a computer. And that's what made this whole thing so bad. Because a lot of LeBron haters are on fire right now. The Stephen A. Haters are on fire right now. You can never give BS to the world. Because those people, they got no life, Dan. They. I told you, these people who live with their parents, they live in the basement. They don't have a job. All they do is sit around and click and talk about people on their computer. That's all they do. And the problem is, Stephen A. Is a good dude, and LeBron's a good dude. And you're gonna have fools and idiots talking bad about them. And that's the thing that sucks. But LeBron pissed me off. He went to Brian Windhorse. Cause Brian Winhorse is a good person, man. I don't know him really, really well, but I think he got a pure heart. He's just trying to do his job. He's out here catching strays. You know what LeBron reminded me of? Remember the Godfather? After Al Pacino left the funeral, he says, we killed everybody today. We settled all the family business. That's what LeBron did. When he went on Pat McAfee's show, he's like. When he sit my man down, he says, I settled all the family business today. I killed everybody. That's what. When I was watching it, when I saw the replay, I was laughing at it. I said, oh, this is right out of the Godfather. He says, I settled all the family business today. And I'm like, come on, man. Stop taking shots at Stephen A. And Brian Windhorse.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, how would you. Do you think everybody on the Lakers is fine? What LeBron did for his son.

[Dan Patrick]

That'S a great question. I don't think that matters. He did it, that kid. I wish him nothing but the best. He should be in the G League, getting better as a player. He should have been in the G League all year. I think it was a great story for them to go on the court together, but he should be in the G League, Dan. You don't get better sitting on the bench.

[Todd Fritz]

I agree. I wanted him to stay another year in college if he was going to. He needed to play after the health season scares freshman year. But, you know, this is where the problem started with LeBron and Stephen A. Or the most recent one is that you had Tyrese Maxey torching Bronnie during a game, and Stephen A. Came on the next day, and it was like it was LeBron's fault. He was telling LeBron how to be a dad, a father.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think you can interpret it like that. I think what Steven. Like I say, I don't know. I'm not going to speak for Stephen A. I'm only going to speak for myself. I think what he was really trying to say, hey, don't put that kid out there with them NBA grown men. Send him to the G League. We can get better. As a player, you can interpret it any way you want to.

[Todd Fritz]

J.J. redick, put him in the game. Do you think LeBron goes, hey, put him in on Ty Tyrese, Maxi torches just about everybody who guards him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but. But like I say, they shouldn't have put him in that situation. He should have been in the G League all season.

[Todd Fritz]

I agree. I. But that's where. That's the trigger. If you start talking about LeBron as a father, that's different. You know, that's not. I can be critical of Bronnie in his game. Yeah, but I can't.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen, man, LeBron's a. Oh, I shouldn't say. I don't know what kind of father LeBron seemed like. First of all, I've always said this. The difference between Michael Jordan, Kobe, the three best basketball players I've ever seen are Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James. Those are the three best basketball players I've ever seen. I said, the difference between those first two guys. Nobody ever said they were nice guys. They gonna kill your ass. Ain't nothing you can do about it. They gonna kill you and stomp on your grave. LeBron might stomp on you, but he gonna apologize for it. He's a nice man. That's the difference. LeBron is a nice guy. That's why I don't like. I didn't like the fact because he really came off as a bully in this entire thing, and that's not who he is.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, but Stephen A, he should have said, J.J. redick, don't put Ronnie James out.

[Dan Patrick]

What Stephen A. Should have did is say, hey, LeBron came to me and said, this, this, this. I'm gonna respect that. He would claim to me as a father that it should have been the end of it. When Stephen A. Went on the other podcast as a tough guy, that's, I think, what triggered LeBron again.

[Todd Fritz]

Do you think he would have gotten into a fight if LeBron put his hands on Stephen A. Stephen A. Said he was going to be throwing punches.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, then I think sometimes. Okay, let me give you an example. I don't think I can beat Shaq in a fight, but when he touched me in front of 20,000 people, I'm gonna swing. If a grown man touch you in front of a crowd, you 100%. Even if you gonna get your ass kicked like when Shaq did that, I had to make a split second decision. Man, is 20,000 people saw him put hands on me. I got the swing. There's. There's times. First of all, I'm not condoning fighting. Anybody fighting past 25 is a loser anyway. Okay, let's get that out the way. Any grown person who fights, you just a loser. But in certain scenarios, like if somebody. If LeBron touches that dude in front of a crowd, even if. Like, even if he gonna kick his ass, you gotta defend yourself to let those 20,000 people know you ain't no punk.

[Todd Fritz]

No. You can't throw punches at a game.

[Dan Patrick]

So you gonna let another man hit you.

[Todd Fritz]

I. I've said he.

[Dan Patrick]

You gonna let another man hit you in front of 20,000.

[Todd Fritz]

LeBron. LeBron's not hitting Stephen A. Smith.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So Stephen A. Shouldn't have said it.

[Todd Fritz]

I know, but he says if he puts his hands on me, that's what.

[Dan Patrick]

See, that's why this is where Stephen A.

[Todd Fritz]

Sort of screwing up.

[Dan Patrick]

All Stephen ain't. All Stephen A. Had to say was LeBron came to me and said, don't talk about my son. Don't talk about my son. That would have been the end of it. But like I say, he goes on Gilbert's podcast talking tough and everything. Then he goes on his podcast talking tough. And I think that triggered LeBron.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, all he had to do was say, hey, you know what? LeBron came to me. He didn't swing on me. He came to me, man to man, and said, stop, stop, stop. If Stephen A. Had a left it right there, we wouldn't even be having. Now we're going on week three.

[Todd Fritz]

How long would the fight last between Stephen A. And LeBron?

[Dan Patrick]

I hope somebody gets to Stephen A. And say, yo, man, stop it. Dan, you do know the number one rule of sports business is don't become the story. That's rule number one.

[Todd Fritz]

We're well past that.

[Dan Patrick]

That. That.

[Todd Fritz]

That's the old days. That.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Todd Fritz]

That's not the way it is anymore.

[Dan Patrick]

I understand that. You. You never. As a reporter.

[Todd Fritz]

I know. I know.

[Dan Patrick]

You never. Yeah, you know. Come on.

[Todd Fritz]

I know, I know. I'm old school. Don't put your hands on me. I'll swing at you.

[Dan Patrick]

You got to. Especially in a crowd. In a crowd, Dan, you automatically have to fight.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay. All right. Have fun tonight. All right?

[Dan Patrick]

All right, brother. War. Damn Eagle.

[Todd Fritz]

Y'all all right.

[Dan Patrick]

In Mississippi Yazoo, clay keeps secrets. 7,000 bodies out there.

[Todd Fritz]

Or more.

[Dan Patrick]

A forgotten asylum cemetery. It was my family's mystery shame.

[Todd Fritz]

Guilt, propriety. Something keeps it all buried deep until it's not.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Larison Campbell and this is under Yazoo Clay. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Todd Fritz]

Someone was posting photos of it was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.

[Dan Patrick]

This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope about the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wondered, if your pet is lying to you, why is my cat not here and I go in and she's eating my lunch? Or if hypnotism is real, you will use the suggestion in order to enhance your cogn controls. But what's inside? A black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Ham, as we answer questions about animals, space, our brains and our bodies. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Prohibition is synonymous with speakeasies, jazz flappers, and, of course, failure. I'm Ed Helms, and on season three of my podcast, Snafu, there's a story I couldn't wait to tell you. It's about an unlikely duo in the 1920s who tried to warn the public that prohibition was going to backfire so badly it just might leave thousands dead from poison. Listen and subscribe to snafu on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all? I'm A.J. andrews, pro softball player, sports analyst, and the first woman to win a Rawlings Gold Glove on my new podcast, Dropping Diamonds. We dive headfirst into the world of softball by sharing powerful stories, insights and conversations that inspire and empower. It's time to drop bombs and diamonds. Dropping diamonds with AJ Andrews is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Athletes Unlimited Softball League and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to dropping diamonds with AJ Andrews on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Todd Fritz]

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