Ryan Fitzpatrick (2:54)

We make way for Andy Staples, our good buddy from on three sports covers. The sport always makes us smarter in the joints just now. Andy, good morning. Got any problem with the latest rankings?

Dan Patrick (3:08)

The one that I thought was a little interesting is where they have Clemson at number 12. So what they're saying here is if Clemson beats South Carolina, which South Carolina is their number 15 team, that, you know, Clemson could jump into an at large spot depending on what happens above them. And I think that's a little interesting because of the teams that they have them clustered around because they got Clemson just ahead of Alabama and Ole Miss. Now Alabama and Ole Miss each have one more loss. But let's look at the schedules. Clemson, toughest game they played. Georgia got destroyed by Georgia. Alabama and Ole Miss both beat Georgia. Clemson did not play the kind of schedule they did. Now what you can say is, well, Alabama shouldn't have lost to Oklahoma by three touchdowns. Ole Miss shouldn't have lost to Florida. I mean those are five lost teams and that makes perfect sense. But Clemson's other losses to Louisville, which is potentially going to look just like that if Louisville loses to Kentucky this weekend. So I think that's a weird spot and I heard Ward Manuel talking about it last night. I think what's going to happen and the Clemson fans are not going to like this if they beat South Carolina, they're going to get jobbed out of this thing anyway because the committee is going to look at it again and go, oh, we screwed that up and put Alabama, Ole Miss ahead of them.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (4:21)

Okay, why is Alabama ranked ahead of Ole Miss?

Dan Patrick (4:25)

It's a great question. Because there's no real head to head to figure out. You know, you've got some common opponents, but that's pretty much it. Ole Miss lost to lsu. Alabama crushed lsu. Alabama narrowly beat Georgia. Ole Miss crushed Georgia. So I, it's, it's very hard to parse those two. South Carolina beneath those two is easier because South Carolina lost head to head to both of those two. What will get interesting about that Dan though is if South Carolina beats Clemson this weekend, can you put him above Alabama Ole Miss because they lost to him.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (5:01)

Give me the team that is in the playoffs now that won't be in the playoffs once they start.

Dan Patrick (5:07)

Ooh, that's a great question. Because it could be somebody who just loses this weekend. That's, that's the thing. There were a couple holy crap games this past weekend and it was Alabama, Oklahoma and Florida Ole Miss. There's potential for something like that. So I think if Notre Dame lost to usc, I think they'd be out because I think, I think we all need to agree to count Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois as two losses because it's that bad. But if it's your only loss, okay. But if you go lose to a five loss USC in addition to losing to Northern Illinois, you probably should be out another one like Tennessee's playing Vanderbilt this weekend. Most years you're like, oh, Tennessee's going to roll over Vanderbilt. This not this Vanderbilt team. This could be a really good game. And this is, this is a scary spot for Tennessee because if Vandy wins, Tennessee's out.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (6:01)

We also have Maryland against Penn State. That's kind of sneaky good. There's.

Dan Patrick (6:06)

Yeah, I'm not as worried about that because Penn State got their scare against Minnesota last week. I think, I think they're, they match up really well with Maryland. I also, I was very impressed with the way James Franklin handled the end of that game. I kind of like that because I want to see that version of Penn State in the playoff where he's faking a pun, he's going forward on fourth down to salt away the game. And kind of he, the way he termed it was winning it on their terms. That's how you have to win in the playoff. And that's not something that Penn State has done really a lot in the last few years. So I'm kind of interested to see what they do. I think they're going to be fine. Against Maryland, the other one. That's weird that I'd worry about Dan. Now this, this team could be out with this. If Miami were to lose to Syracuse, the total in that game is like 67 and a half. Seems completely reasonable. This feels like a complete shootout. Miami's defense has been somewhat suspect, but so is Syracuse. So I think this could be a very high scoring last team with the ball wins kind of game. If Miami were to lose that game, then they would be out of the ACC championship. Clemson would then get into the ACC championship again against smu. That would be very interesting.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (7:17)

We're talking Andy Staples. He covers college football for on three Sports. Give me the school that is out of the playoffs. Who will be in the playoffs when they start?

Dan Patrick (7:28)

Well, right now, if you look at the rankings, all of the Big 12 teams are out. One of them is going to get in. There's four teams, all of which have a chance to make the conference title game, depending on what happens this weekend, and the winner of that conference title game is getting in. So I would say Arizona State and Iowa State I kind of feel the best about. And then those two play. And Arizona State's the hottest team in the league right now, so I think. I think Sparky would be the one that makes it in there.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (7:56)

What's going to happen to these conference championship games in the future?

Dan Patrick (8:00)

That's a great question. They've already talked about expanding the playoff to 14 starting in 2026. And I think the reason for that is they want to make sure that the SEC and Big Ten championships have some stakes because those would be the only two buys, and you would assume that those are probably going to the Big Ten and SEC champs. So the worry was that both of those games, both those teams are in the playoff. Nobody cares. I mean, you can make a case this year that it's probably better to lose the Big Ten championship and be the five seed than be the one seed. So they don't want that. They. They don't want to have that happen. So I think that's what you're going to see with those games. Now, this format is great for the Big 12 championship game. It's great for the ACC championship game because those are win and in situations, probably now maybe the ACC, they both get it. We'll see. But the Big 12 is absolutely going to be the winners in, the losers out, and that's all. And I think they'd like to keep it that way because I think that actually makes it the best product. But then the Big Ten and the sec, it's a different story.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (9:07)

Good to talk to you. Happy Thanksgiving. Safe travels this weekend, Andy.

Dan Patrick (9:11)

Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving to all you guys.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (9:13)

Andy Staples, you are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.

Dan Patrick (9:21)

Hey, order up. Small Business Saturday is right around the corner, and so is that shop you've been meaning to check out on November 30th. Support your local community by shopping small on small Business Saturday. Founded by American Express. Hey, everyone. I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packers Stan. Anya and I met through hockey, and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers.

Kenny Maine (9:50)

And on our new podcast, Moms who.

Dan Patrick (9:52)

Puck, we're opening up about the chaos of our daily lives. Between the juggle of being athletes, raising children, and all the messiness in between, we're also turning to fellow athletes and beyond to learn about their parenthood journeys and collect valuable advice like FIFA World cup winner Ashlyn Harris. I wish my village would have prepared me for how hard motherhood was going to be. And peloton instructor and ratchet mom club founder Kirsten Ferguson. And I remember going in there a hot mess. So listen to Moms who Puck, a production of iHeart Women's Sports and Deep blue sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. What's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverb and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're gonna be at a bar, elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? Incredible. Very good. It's very kind of like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free@wasabi.com hey, this is Kyle Brandtz. You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL Life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brandt driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoked break, you still smoke. You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free@wasabi.com hey, I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien. We're the hosts of the Daily Zeitgeist, and we want to tell you about Miles Jack, Jack Got Mad Boosties, an MBA podcast from I Heart Radio. We nailed that. This is a weekly podcast about all the amazing moments that keep all of us NBA fans coming back for more. Basically, if you love basketball and you like to laugh, listen to Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast brought to.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (12:22)

You by hypnotic Ryan Fitzpatrick. You can see him Amazon Prime Video. Thursday night analyst. The Raiders take on the Chiefs. That'll be Black Friday, and coverage starts at 3 Eastern only on Prime Videos. We welcome back Ryan Fitzpatrick, former quarterback, Harvard quarterback. Wait, do people mention that? Doesn't seem like they go, oh, Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know he went to Harvard.

Dan Patrick (12:51)

Oh, no, it's disappointing. Although Harvard just lost to Yale, so I don't really like to talk about Harvard. We did win the IBM title, but we lost the most important game.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (13:03)

How long does that stay with you when you lose to Yale?

Dan Patrick (13:10)

Oh, okay. I say the Harvard thing. You know What? You get 10 games in the Ivy League and there's no chance of playoffs or anything like that, so it's a big deal. I wouldn't know. I was 4 0.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (13:28)

Is there Ivy League smack talk that I'm not aware of?

Dan Patrick (13:34)

There is, but it's more, you know, the safety school chants are a big one. Yeah, there's. There's a couple bad ones, but they're. They're all pretty. Pretty lame. Pretty lame Ivy League humor.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (13:47)

What was your safe, safe school?

Dan Patrick (13:54)

Interesting question. I. It probably would have been. It wouldn't have been another Ivy League school. It would have been walking on to a place like Stanford or Notre Dame or Northwestern or one of those schools.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (14:08)

Okay. All right. How would you sum up the AFC so far?

Dan Patrick (14:18)

Well, we'll have Kansas City this week and I can't wait to get a closer look. You know, I was very vocal last year and saying, you know, they needed to lose some games and there's no chance they're going to win the Super Bowl. They lost some games and of course they won the super bowl because as we know, Patrick Mahomes in close games is always going to win it. But I love what Buffalo is doing right now. I think the Texans, they have the team to get hot at the right time, but obviously they're really struggling right now. Pittsburgh, we got to see them up close and personal against Cleveland this last week, and they're just they're not going to have the offense to do it this year. I'm still really intrigued by the Ravens. I think this week will tell us a lot when they're playing against the Eagles and then the Chargers. It's just a very specific way that they have to win football games, which is good for playoff football. But I just don't think they're going to be able to put the pieces together this year on offense.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (15:16)

All right. State of the nfc.

Dan Patrick (15:20)

The nfc. I mean, there's some heavyweights, you know, obviously starting with Detroit, and they look, they look pretty unbeatable right now. They've got a great formula, you know, and the teams I like to look at, you know, teams that can run the ball, which they can, but teams that play great defense and can turn the ball over, they can take it away and give it to their offense. And three of the best four in the NFL right now are Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay. I think the Eagles, we got a close look at them against the commanders, and they can win games in a lot of different ways, just like Detroit can. They can score with anybody. They can play great defense. But I still Green Bay, to me, is the sleeper team that I absolutely love. I love the way they play. And it's all contingent on Jordan Love, and if he can get hot at the right time, I think they're going to be really tough in the playoffs.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (16:15)

He's Ryan Fitzpatrick, Amazon Prime Video Thursday night analyst and you can see the Raiders taking on the Chiefs on Black Friday. Their coverage starts at 3 Eastern only on Prime Video. We hear a lot about organizations and it's dysfunctional, whether it's the jets or it could be. You know, fill in the blank here. Did you ever feel like you were part of a dysfunctional organization? And if so, how did you know it was dysfunctional?

Dan Patrick (16:44)

Well, I would say that was pretty much my career. I don't know, just the places I decided to go. But yeah, I think when you have great organizations, then you really start to notice and feel how bad the other ones were. When I was, when I was in Tennessee, it wasn't great. You know, when I was with the jets, it actually wasn't bad. And we've seen the way that's played out these last two years. But Houston, for me, was a good one. Houston, when I got there, saw the way that it was run, the way that they cared for their players. That was one that made me realize maybe some of the ones I'd had in the past weren't great. You Know, coming up, my first two teams were St. Louis and Cincinnati, and so you don't know any better until you get somewhere else. But I also had a really bad stretch everywhere I went. The owner died shortly thereafter. I had. I mean, it was not a good Georgia frontier, unfortunately. And we had Ralph Winston, then we had Bud Adams, then we had McNair, and it was just a long list. I started looking at myself like it must be me. But thankfully, the last few survived.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (18:04)

Wow, that's some black humor there. That's dark humor there.

Dan Patrick (18:09)

Yeah.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (18:09)

Damn. Do you imagine, you know, a coach says, hey, you know what? We could always bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick. And the owner goes, no, no, no, no, we can't bring him in. No, no.

Dan Patrick (18:20)

Usually that's a different reason.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (18:22)

Yeah. If you had an MVP vote, who would get it?

Dan Patrick (18:29)

I feel like we struggle every week with recency bias because it was definitely Lamar and then it was definitely Josh, and now after watching Saquon. Holy smokes. I. I still. It's just hard to not give it to a quarterback because of how difficult the position is. So right now, my vote is Josh Allen, but he's going to have to beat Detroit. If he doesn't beat Detroit, then he's not going to have a chance at the mvp.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (18:54)

What's it like now? You go through your career trying not to say something. Now you're employed to say something, and now your words have meaning, and now people hear it, players hear it. How, you know, tell me about that transition from I don't want to say anything to, you know, upset anybody, to I might say something that's going to upset somebody.

Dan Patrick (19:16)

Yeah, I think as long as it's rooted in the truth, I've kind of come to terms with. It's not. It's not a bad thing to speak your mind if it's rooted in the truth. Now if you've got a personal vendetta and you're going after somebody, which, you know, I. I think Belichick has been awesome to listen to.

Kenny Maine (19:36)

He.

Dan Patrick (19:36)

He has been so refreshing and his knowledge and everything he says. But I feel like sometimes there's a different angle that he's playing with some of the comments that he makes about certain people. I think as long as it's rooted in truth, then it's okay that. That I haven't had a problem with it at all. Then there's other situations. I have a very unique perspective. So Daniel Jones, for example, that's something that I live. And I wasn't a franchise quarterback for six seasons, but I had those, those little spurts where I was franchise quarterback. I did get benched. I did have to go into work the next day. So stuff like that becomes easy for me to talk about because of the perspective that I had and some of that experience that I can share with everybody.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (20:18)

Okay, go back to Belichick. What's the angle that he's playing?

Dan Patrick (20:23)

Well, you know, I think that some of his, some of his comments on Mayo were heavy handed, little heavy handed, maybe because of the way it ended there and how their relationship was at the end. But there's, there's some stuff you can, you can read through the lines a little bit.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (20:42)

He says so many things, but he doesn't say them in a loud way. We're so used to broadcasters now. Hot take. And I'm going to say it loudly. There's nothing loud about Belichick. So you kind of miss what he's saying or, you know, because of how he's saying it.

Dan Patrick (21:00)

And there. But there's the thing I love about him is there's purpose behind everything that he says. Like you said, it's not, it's not for the hot take, it's not for the views. There's a purpose behind every little thing that he says, you know, and most of it rooted in truth, some of it rooted in vengeance. But I really have enjoyed, he's been everywhere, but I've enjoyed listening to him a lot.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (21:23)

Did you ask him what was the game plan when you faced me, when he, when he was facing you? Like, I'd be curious. Tell me what the book was on me from Belichick's eyes?

Dan Patrick (21:36)

Yeah, I mean, I think I know the book. I played him 14 times. You know, it was essentially, let's, let's make this guy make mistakes. We're going to make him beat us. Play tight coverage, take away your best receiver. Whether, you know, it was Brandon Marshall when I was there, devonte Parker, but I had some, some really bad memories versus them. I mean, playing, playing against New England when they were rolling. And then I've had some good ones to three different places. You know, in the AFC East, I was able to beat them and beat Tom, but yeah, 3 and 11 record. I don't, I don't think he.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (22:18)

Happy Thanksgiving to you. And we'll be watching on Black Friday. It'll be the Kansas City Chiefs and the Raiders. Thanks for joining us again, Ryan.

Dan Patrick (22:27)

All right, thank you. Looking forward to it.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (22:29)

Ryan Fitzpatrick, be sure to catch the.

Dan Patrick (22:31)

Live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, order up. Small Business Saturday is right around the corner, and so is that shop you've been meaning to check out on November 30th. Support your local community by shopping small on smart Small Business Saturday, founded by American Express. Hey everyone. I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer. Stan, Anya and I met through hockey and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers.

Kenny Maine (23:11)

And on our new podcast, Moms who.

Dan Patrick (23:12)

Puck, we're opening up about the chaos of our daily lives. Between the juggle of being athletes, raising children, and all the messiness in between, we're also turning to fellow athletes and beyond to learn about their parenthood journeys and collect valuable advice. Like FIFA World cup winner Ashlyn Harris. I wish my village would have prepared me for how hard motherhood was going to be. And peloton instructor and ratchet mom club founder Kirsten Ferguson. And I remember going in there.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (23:41)

A hot mess.

Dan Patrick (23:42)

So listen to Moms who Puck, a production of I Heart Women's and deep blue sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. What's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of NFL Team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? Incredible. Very good. It's very kind, like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free@wasabi.com hey, this is Kyle Brandtz. You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes, NFL life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes. With Kyle Brandt driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break. You still smoke. You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work. You got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free@wasabi.com. hey, I'm Miles Gray. And I'm Jack O'Brien. We're the hosts of the Daily Zeitgeist. And we want to tell you about Miles Jack, Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast from I Heart Radio. We nailed that. This is a weekly podcast about all the amazing moments that keep all of us NBA fans coming back for more. Basically, if you love basketball and you like to laugh, listen to Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (25:43)

Brought to you by hypnotic Kenny Mainsky, former ESPN Sports center anchor, now a current sports center anchor, I believe. And he has a documentary on FUBU sports. It's called Wiffle Ball. And Kenny joins us now. First of all, let's, let's clear up. What is your job description now with espn?

Kenny Maine (26:03)

I'm unemployed, but next time somebody hires me, I'm employed. That's where I'm at right now. No, I. They let me on last Friday.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (26:12)

Okay.

Kenny Maine (26:12)

To promote, just like you are. And thank you for. I know you were probably desperate for guests the day before Thanksgiving. I was happy to fill that role. I made a silly little movie. Really? It's a long video, but it sounds cooler to call it a film. And I've been asking old friends and you guys were kind enough to let me come out here and promote what I'm doing. But they put me on SportsCenter last Friday as a favor to promote my movie. That's all. It was a one off.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (26:37)

Oh, okay. I thought you came back and then you were going to be a sports center. Would you come back right now if.

Kenny Maine (26:43)

Offered how much and how many?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (26:48)

Let's say they said you had to do 50 sports centers.

Kenny Maine (26:54)

Are you, are you negotiating for me?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (26:56)

I will.

Kenny Maine (26:57)

I mean, you have way more power. I mean, I'm. Like I said, I'm unemployed. I'm selling a movie. I have a podcast deal. We're waiting on paperwork. I'm selling greeting cards. I might sell my car. I don't want to sell my house. We're. We're doing okay. We're not doing a GoFundMe at all.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (27:15)

Okay. I just want to make sure you're doing.

Kenny Maine (27:17)

It was. I will say, it really was fun going back for the one day. Like, I know you've come back once or twice. I think you and Keith. In fact, I worked that night and it was cool. It was great having you guys around and doing your thing and. But it's also feels a little weird because you've left, now you're back. They didn't know me at the front gate. The guy said, have you ever been here before? Do you know your way?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (27:38)

I still figured out the same thing happened to me. Made me show ID and I said, I helped build this place. And then he laughed. I go, I'm not joking. So he gave me a visitor's pass that I wore on the air with Van Pelt one night. I'm like, all right, I'll just be a visitor here.

Kenny Maine (27:55)

Visitor.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (27:55)

Yeah.

Kenny Maine (27:56)

I have the same thing when it comes to trying to get credentials for different events. So, like Seahawks were at the Giants last year and my credentials said my name and it said other. They didn't know what the hell to call me.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (28:10)

So in between jobs. All right, so tell us how you decided that you were going to do a document. I call it a documentary.

Kenny Maine (28:20)

It is.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (28:20)

Yeah. Documentary on Wiffle ball.

Kenny Maine (28:24)

Years and years ago, when I was in Seattle one day when Ken Griffey was a rookie, he, Harold Reynolds and I went and did a little feature story at the Seattle Center. Ended up throwing wiffle balls for speed on a really chintzy little radar gun. And all these years I bragged that I beat Griffey by 1 mph. In my head, I still think I did. I think my cameraman double clicked. And Griffey was at the Seattle Sports Awards show two years ago and he brought it up. So it's in his head from 30 odd years ago. I was like, I'm going to make a dumb movie about a. It's really my love letter to Wiffle ball, my childhood. And then it morphs into, can you believe I got to throw wiffle balls against, you know, the Willie Mays of our era? And. And we tried to prove my point that I beat him, but.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (29:09)

Was Griffey cooperative with your documentary?

Kenny Maine (29:14)

He declined to be physically involved.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (29:16)

Still in his head then.

Kenny Maine (29:18)

I think he knows I beat him. That's what I think. But I don't care because he's legend in baseball in Seattle. Getting to look at him at age 19, throwing a wiffle ball is just funny all by itself. We have Ken Burns, fellow documentarian. He's in the he's in the documentary. We have a science professor analyzing the tape. We have the president of Wiffle Ball in Connecticut. You know, it's right down there off Route 8 by you. And so we have all these components. I really try to tell a real story. Like, I really wanted to take that part seriously, but yet do it in somewhat of a silly way.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (29:52)

And it's also an homage, a love letter to the city of Seattle as well.

Kenny Maine (29:57)

Oh, for sure. I mean, it starts with my Dick Williams joke. I'm my second year of broadcast in Seattle. I'm local sports reporter for this little station in Tacoma. And I said, dick, is it just me, or have you had trouble purchasing wiffle ball equipment this spring? I'm thinking, that's really funny. Better than the Thanksgiving jokes. You guys just. And Dick looks at me like he wanted to kill me. And I'm like, you know, the plastic bat thing? And he's. I know what Wiffle Ball is. Your joke's not funny. Okay, Dick, let's talk about your middle relief. How did. How they stacking up? Yeah, so. But no Mark Sands for my best friend broke babe Bruce Homer record in one summer of Wiffle Ball. Those are dogs barking in the back outdoors. You also got some construction noise. Now there's a dog fight. I just don't want to be inside where our dogs might bark or Gretchen would yell, go get crescent rolls or something. So I'm out here on the porch.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (30:50)

That's quite a. Quite a spread you've got there. Is that your Connecticut mansion or your Seattle mansion?

Kenny Maine (30:57)

Well, because you built espn and others of us got to follow you and gain from that windfall. Yeah, no, we're in Connecticut, so I got remarried, and our last of the four daughters just went to college. So it's just me and Gretchen here in West Hartford. But all the girls came back for Thanksgiving, so we're very joyous about that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (31:17)

Okay. You can find the documentary Wiffle Ball on Fubu Sports.

Kenny Maine (31:21)

Fubo. Fubo.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (31:22)

Oh, what did I say?

Kenny Maine (31:24)

Fubu. You talked about the clothing line in 1983.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (31:27)

Fubo.

Kenny Maine (31:28)

Fuboi. It's available now on demand on F.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (31:32)

U B O. Kenny Mainsky joining us live to the nation on the program.

Kenny Maine (31:39)

You know the. I thought of that coming in.

Dan Patrick (31:42)

You.

Kenny Maine (31:42)

You and Stuart Scott both had a funny way of making me giggle. Right before a show would start. You would always say, live to the nation right before we're on the air. And you'd make you. And Stuart always said, let's get stupid. And each one had its own value for loosening an audience. And your co host, do you remember.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (32:01)

Your first Sports Center?

Kenny Maine (32:02)

Yeah, it was with Larry Beal. He was very gentle and guided me through. You're nervous as hell when the first one, you know, I'm over there on ESPN2 doing the sports smash. And then now and then, you know, people needed to date. Brett Haber is off today. Here I come on. And Larry's a sweetheart. I mean, he guided me through a little different than Kilbourne, who's like, thanks for joining us from espn, too, Ken. And what are you? Julie paradise now you're in charge of scheduling. Like, you were good.

Dan Patrick (32:32)

You.

Kenny Maine (32:33)

You're a little bit Letterman. Like, though you don't. Like just now. You went away for six minutes. No hello before. Just come live to the nation when it's time. You don't want to get too close to the person you're interviewing.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (32:45)

No, no. I think it's easier that way. Sometimes you leave your best stuff, you know, before you do the interview. And although people might debate if we've left our best stuff before the interview, during this interview, but even doing highlights that, you know, there were no guardrails, we basically got to the point where when Oberman and I were doing them, we mocked ourselves during the highlights because we had kind of run out of ways to be creative with highlights. Let's. And I think you even mocked our mocking of our highlights.

Kenny Maine (33:20)

What I remember most about you is how quickly you were out of the. Like, you're saying goodbye to the camera guy and the audio. Where's Dan? He's got. He's on the fire starter on his car. He's gone. He's done on the way to Stanford. He's halfway down Route 8. But no, you. You were great to work with. Somebody asked me just on one of my recent interviews because, remember, Keith left, and then they had this tryout thing for three months. It was all weird. And somehow they picked me out of a hat. And those were a couple good years.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (33:49)

Well, it was one of those that they put so much pressure on me because Oberman left. And they're like, all right. And everybody in the building thought I was picking who my co host was. And I said, I'm. I'm gonna do the show. You watch the show. Who do you want to see on the show? And I remember I didn't lose friendship, but I. I did lose. Some people were upset that maybe I didn't go to bat for them or they should have been in there. But I just said, hey, I didn't have anything to do with it, which I didn't. And I remember when I got a call, I was on a camping trip with my son, and Norby Williamson said, hey, we're going to go with Kenny Maine. I said, okay, I got to go back to helping my son get his swimming badge, so, you know, I'll see you in a week. And that was it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want to get involved in it because I just thought, let management decide who they want in there instead of me trying to bigfoot and say, you know who I want. Because it didn't matter because you were following Keith and whoever that was was going to have a lot of pressure on them. And I don't know if you felt it, but, you know, that was certainly. Certainly what I was trying to factor in here.

Kenny Maine (34:57)

Thanks for picking me. So, yeah, I mean, Norby must have got outvoted, right? It must have been Walsh and Vince and I don't know what the committee. Steve Anderson was still there.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (35:09)

So Norby didn't like you.

Kenny Maine (35:12)

I don't think he got me. I don't think he disliked me so much as. He just thought I wasn't serious enough to convey the Giants rushing statistics that week or whatever. Like, I thought I didn't copy anybody. But I definitely modeled after what you guys did because you guys made it fun. You know, that's. Bill Patrick was good. All sorts of people. Bob Lee's sharp sense of humor, Charlie Steiner on and on and on. And it was supposed to be fun. We always took the serious things seriously. If somebody, you know, some serious matter, whatever it was. And the rest of it was just fun. You're supposed to have fun. The guys made a nice catch. Say a silly line, say a home run call, you know, whatever. Have fun. Still trying to have fun.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (35:52)

Well, the. The Dr. Football on Fubo Sports. It's. It's On Demand. It's. Kenny's Wiffle ball documentary. Can be found on. That's F U B O Sports. And yeah, you see what I did?

Kenny Maine (36:07)

I finally got.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:09)

For the second time. You finally got it. F U BO Highlights his journey to find out if he threw a wiffle ball faster than Ken Griffey Jr. Take.

Kenny Maine (36:19)

The Seahawks on the money line. Gambling problems.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:24)

Thanks. Thanks.

Kenny Maine (36:26)

I like the Seahawks this week.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:28)

Oh, you do? Seahawks money line, straight up. All right.

Kenny Maine (36:33)

I ain't right back.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:34)

Thank you, Kenny.

Kenny Maine (36:35)

Buboes. Wait, I'm done. I had like a half. I still got time.

Dan Patrick (36:38)

Plenty.

Kenny Maine (36:39)

We're done.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:40)

Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to make sure that we, you know, I don't want to ruin everything, and then everybody's gonna go, I've heard the story. Get like, I want them. This a tease is what it is. Yeah, yeah.

Kenny Maine (36:51)

It's a trailer on demand, guys. Save my career. Let's go.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:53)

F you, Kenny. Maybe. Thanks, Kenny. Happy Thanksgiving to you and the girls. Okay, that's it. We've done it. It's Kenny. May be sure to catch the live.

Dan Patrick (37:07)

Edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (37:12)

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Dan Patrick (37:17)

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Kenny Maine (39:01)

And on our new podcast, Moms who.

Dan Patrick (39:03)

Puck, we're opening up about the chaos of our daily lives. Between the juggle of being athletes, raising children, and all the messiness in between. We're also turning to fellow athletes and beyond to learn about their parenthood journeys and collect valuable advice like FIFA World cup winner Ashlyn Harris. I wish my village would have prepared me for how hard motherhood was going to be. And peloton instructor and ratchet mom club founder Kirsten Ferguson. And I remember going in there a hot mess. So listen to Moms who Puck, a production of I Heart Women's Sports and Deep Blue sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Myles Gray. And I'm Jack O'Brien. We're the hosts of the Daily Zeitgeist. And we want to tell you about Miles Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast from I Heart Radio. We nailed that. This is a weekly podcast about all the amazing moments that keep all of us NBA fans coming back for more. Basically, if you love basketball and you like to laugh, listen to Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Brought to you by Hypnotic.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (40:20)

We're thankful for you. Let's go around the room. Say something nice about the audience. Todd, I'll start with you.

Dan Patrick (40:27)

We appreciate their sense of humor and their creativity and their loyalty to the program.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (40:32)

All right, Seaton, say something nice.

Dan Patrick (40:35)

They're always there to play along.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (40:37)

Thank you so much, Marvin.

Dan Patrick (40:39)

I love their family like, atmosphere with us. Paul, I love when a caller or a person on Twitter, a listener has an unbelievable joke and we get to use it on the show.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (40:49)

Yeah, because it's usually better than the jokes that we have on our end, but we're thankful every day. We get to do this Monday through Friday. One day it ends, one day it ends.

Dan Patrick (41:00)

Well, we have to talk about that right now.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:01)

No, but it's living the moment. It's like three years, almost three years. We got three more years.

Dan Patrick (41:08)

That's like over a thousand days if you think about it. A lot of time.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:11)

Yes, it is.

Dan Patrick (41:12)

But for the first time ever, it's about to go from a four digit thing.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:15)

I know three digits. I know.

Dan Patrick (41:18)

Once you drop into the nine hundreds all then it just goes down to two digits after that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:23)

How many shows do we have? So December 24, 2027, last day.

Dan Patrick (41:29)

2027.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:31)

Yeah, 2027. How many shows will we do before then? Maybe we could.

Dan Patrick (41:41)

Well, you guys take every other week.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:42)

Off anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

Dan Patrick (41:44)

If you're going to do that show.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:46)

And you got a number.

Dan Patrick (41:48)

Paul, I would bet we have under 800 shows remaining.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:52)

Okay. All right, let's make the best of it. About. Let's get one great show.

Dan Patrick (41:59)

Yeah. One for 800.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:00)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (42:01)

How many more times do we have Ryan Fitzpatrick on in those 800 shows? Oh, two. You think two?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:08)

Yeah. You think he's good for two? Yeah, I think two more under one.

Dan Patrick (42:10)

And a half on that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:11)

What about Andy staples? Andy Staples, 84. Yeah, I'm gonna give him 15.

Dan Patrick (42:17)

Yeah, that's gonna go in the dozen ballpark.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:19)

Chris Mannix, how many times is Manix?

Dan Patrick (42:23)

6. 5. Maybe he didn't really come on anymore.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:26)

Yeah, he big timed us.

Dan Patrick (42:28)

Just like Chrissy Teigen. All of a sudden, everybody's too big.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:32)

Yeah.

Kenny Maine (42:33)

Yeah.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:34)

They leave us, though.

Dan Patrick (42:35)

Yeah, they do.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:36)

It's like this is the sports nest and, you know, I would bring back food and feed everybody, and then they just eventually get their wings and then they fly away. That's it. Yes.

Dan Patrick (42:47)

Marvin, what about one of our new favorites, Vinnie Goodwill?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:52)

Vinnie Goodwill. Mike could carve out, you know, five, six appearances. He's entertaining when he comes on.

Kenny Maine (42:59)

Yeah.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:59)

How about Ross Tucker? Over? Under 40 appearances.

Dan Patrick (43:06)

I'll take the over in three years.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:09)

40 appearances. Ross Tucker.

Dan Patrick (43:12)

That's almost once a month.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:13)

The next three years. Next three years. You could see that. Over, over. Which guest will be on more than any other guest in the net in the next three years?

Dan Patrick (43:25)

It may be Ross Florio's up there, Albert Breer's up there, but those three will be in the mix. Fair.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:34)

All right, let me see. Oh, Todd's got his Thanksgiving Day names.

Dan Patrick (43:39)

Oh, now you get up to me when they're four minutes.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:43)

How many? How many do you have?

Dan Patrick (43:44)

I'll go through them pretty quick. I'm not going to read all them. I'm going to go through the ones that I think are the best.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:48)

Okay.

Dan Patrick (43:49)

Which may be only.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:49)

Here we go.

Dan Patrick (43:51)

All right. In honor of our previous guest, Kenny Main course. Figured we'd get him in there.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:56)

Don't explain. Keep going. Lamar Autumn.

Dan Patrick (43:59)

Lamar Autumn.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (44:00)

No, that's bad cranberry sauce.

Dan Patrick (44:02)

Gardener.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (44:02)

That's good OB Toppings. That's good plate.

Dan Patrick (44:06)

Thurmond.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (44:07)

No, we're not William the Refrigerator Perry, okay?

Dan Patrick (44:11)

Fat Mahomes. Oh, he's not fat.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (44:15)

But yeah, we've got a dad bod.

Dan Patrick (44:17)

Nick Chubby. What does Lamar Autumn mean? Like instead of Lamar Autumn at the Thanksgivings and Odom?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (44:24)

It's not good. Continue.

Dan Patrick (44:26)

Stool Leonards. I don't even know what that means. That's not even. That's not even an accurate. Oh, no, you eat a lot. You know, you gotta have a Stool Leonard. Ricky Fowler. There's some Oldies but Goodies. Jack Ham, Matt Turkey, Matt Turk, Metric.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (44:38)

Kevin Grievy.

Dan Patrick (44:39)

I know you remember Kevin Grievy. This is Kevin Gravy from the Washington Bullets days. Okay. Mark Eaton. Bud Black Friday. Nick Foliage, Goose Gossage and CD Lamb. Houston Nutmeg. Charlie Green Bean Casserly Pie Trainer. Cocoa Crisp. In case you get a little Apple crisp. Native Archibald. I know you like Native Archibald from your Cincinnati days. Ernest Givens. Tim McCarver. Mitchell True Biscuits Entre Roll. Yam Darnold.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (45:09)

Oh, I like Yam Darnold.

Dan Patrick (45:10)

Eric Butterbean. Esh Saying Mark Grace after meals. Bud Black Friday.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (45:16)

You say it before you say grace.

Dan Patrick (45:18)

Oh, you say it before. You can say something after Nice. Bud Black Friday. Colony Kaepernick. Hank Gathers. Rest in peace. Randall Tex Cobbler. Plymouth Rock Reigns, Raleigh Feastwick. Taste Em Hill. Is that a taste of. No. Taste Em Hill. You'll let me have that one. Romeo Robinson.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (45:36)

Four more.

Dan Patrick (45:37)

Jack Kent Cook, Bake, McBride Cornbread. Maxwell and Carl Feathers. And our sponsor, Steve Traeger from the Dodgers. Steve Traeger.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (45:48)

Steve.

Dan Patrick (45:51)

That's what we got. Stu Leonards.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (45:54)

Stu Leonards. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (45:56)

But, Stuart.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (45:57)

No, I know. I have to explain. What?

Dan Patrick (46:00)

All right.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:02)

I have to say that people don't know what Stu Leonard's is all over the country. I don't think.

Dan Patrick (46:07)

Yeah, it's not everywhere. Okay, you know, Paul just brought up a good point. Do we have two Thanksgiving names lists left or is it three? Two.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:20)

No, it'd be three. No, I got. Yeah, yeah.

Dan Patrick (46:23)

25, 26, 27. So we only have to do that three more times.

Kenny Maine (46:26)

That's hopeful math.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:27)

But then we also have three Christmas ones.

Dan Patrick (46:30)

Okay. Over, under number. Will Todd add three new names to that list by the end of year three?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:36)

Yes. You think he will? Yes.

Dan Patrick (46:37)

Just barely.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:38)

Barely. Barely.

Dan Patrick (46:40)

I'd say something in the four or five range.

Kenny Maine (46:43)

All right.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:44)

Anything you'd like to add, Todd? You did a great job. Your contributions today.

Dan Patrick (46:49)

We had a lot of fun. This was a great Thanksgiving eve. We're all together and we'll go our separate ways for a few days with family and then we'll get back at it next Monday.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:56)

All right, Say something nice about us. Everybody in the room.

Dan Patrick (46:59)

You guys are kind and considerate for the most part. Sometimes I. Oh, my gosh. Sometimes. For the most part. Sometimes I take the snarkiness or the meanness the wrong way because I'm very sensitive. But I think, I think it's all done in love. And ultimately we're all team players and here to bring up the best in one another and wish good, happy things for each other.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (47:19)

All right, let's go around the room. That is the clip, by the way.

Dan Patrick (47:22)

That if we needed to play a clip of audio from the show for a therapist, that's the one that I would like.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (47:27)

Thanks for all the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. We have a lot of things to be grateful for and certainly you being our audience. Top of the list for Todd Seton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly. Have a great weekend.

Dan Patrick (47:43)

Hey, this is Kyle Brandt. You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL Life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brandt driving home from work. You got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break. You still smoke. You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work. You got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free@wasabi.com what's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm gonna empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar, elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? Incredible. Very good. It's very kind, like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcast. Or where, wherever you get your podcast, Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free@wasabi.com. hey, I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien. We're the hosts of the Daily Zeitgeist and we want to tell you about Miles, an NBA podcast from I Heart Radio. We nailed that. This is a weekly podcast about all the amazing moments that keep all of us NBA fans coming back for more. Basically, if you love basketball and you like to laugh, listen to Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Brought to you by Hypnotic hey, this is Justin Richmond, host of the Broken Record Podcast. Every week, I or my co host Leah Rose, sit down with the artists you love to get unparalleled creative insight. Our new series is looking at one of the most influential jazz labels ever, Blue Note Records. You'll hear from artists like legendary bassist Ron Carter, singer songwriter Nora Jones, and guitarist Julian Losch. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, I'm Jack Please Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of black literature. Black lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Blacklit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. ATT Connecting changes everything.