The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show – "Best Of" | August 22, 2025

Host: Dan Patrick (DP)
Special Guests: Ed Werder (Cowboys Insider), Steve Young (Hall of Fame QB), John Fogerty (Rock & Roll Hall of Famer)

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Episode Overview

On this lively "Best Of" Friday episode, Dan Patrick welcomes prominent sports journalist Ed Werder to dissect the state and legacy of the Dallas Cowboys, Hall of Famer Steve Young for insight on quarterback paths and NFL trends, and music legend John Fogerty to discuss the baseball classic "Center Field" and his creative process. The show also features authentic locker-room banter among Dan and the crew, with memorable stories, listener calls, and a diverse mix of sports and culture.

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Key Segments & Highlights

1. Dallas Cowboys Legacy & Drama with Ed Werder

Timestamps: [02:36] – [14:43]

Main Topics:

• Jerry Jones’ impact and lasting drama since 1989.
• The forthcoming Cowboys documentary: motivation, timing, and what sets the Cowboys apart.
• Fan and media sentiment toward Jerry Jones as owner.
• The continued pattern of contract disputes with Cowboys’ stars (Micah Parsons, CeeDee Lamb, Dak Prescott).
• The team's competitive outlook in the NFC East.

Insights & Notable Quotes:

• On Jerry Jones as an owner:
  "He was somebody who could not embrace criticism, but he could withstand it... he was going to be a very prominent personality in the league for as long as he owned the franchise."
  — Ed Werder [03:08]
• Why a documentary now?
  "I think Jerry wanted something that documented his place in the NFL... and wanted to take credit for certain things for which he has not yet been given credit."
  — Ed Werder [03:56]
• On Cowboys fans voting Jerry out:
  "Jerry would win the three votes of his family members... might lose all of the remaining votes."
  — Ed Werder [05:09]
• Cowboys on-field prospects:
  "When Dak Prescott has been healthy... the Cowboys have been in the playoffs. But entering the season, they're probably the third-best team in their own division."
  — Ed Werder [08:12]
• Dak Prescott’s contract dynamic:
  "It's really just leverage... they forced the Cowboys to franchise-tag Dak twice and ultimately Jerry feared losing him."
  — Ed Werder [10:08]
• Eagles vs. Cowboys:
  "Their front office takes a completely different approach to being proactive and signing their best players. You’d think maybe Jerry Jones would study that… he’s chosen to do just the opposite."
  — Ed Werder [11:52]
• Most “Cowboys” story ever:
  Describes Michael Irvin’s drug, trial, and murder-for-hire saga:
  "It's all played out very publicly... I don't know that there's something that we have that we're not aware of that I could share with you."
  — Ed Werder [12:15]

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2. Behind the Scenes: Proposals, Baggage Claims & Office Banter

Timestamps: [14:43] – [20:31]

Recurring Cast: Todd, Devin, Ed Werder, Dan Patrick

• Listener advice segment for a proposal—Ellen from Wisconsin’s "old lady advice":
  "...reach out to her best friend or her sister. This buys him goodwill... and absolves him of all guilt if her mother doesn’t like the way it went down."
  — Ellen [15:16]
• The crew shares their own proposal stories; Todd’s airport/secret Miami getaway highlights the classic DP Show camaraderie and humor.
• Dan teases about Hollywood-style proposal ideas:
  "You get a piece of luggage, her luggage, and then you have it come off the chute and it says, 'Will you marry me?' Oh, I’m writing scripts here."
  — Dan Patrick [17:05]

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3. Steve Young: Nontraditional Paths to Sports Greatness, Quarterback Insight, and the NFL Today

Timestamps: [31:23] – [46:45]

Main Topics:

• Steve Young on the unique journey to NFL stardom (starting USFL, Tampa Bay, backup to Joe Montana).
• Rivalry perspectives—49ers vs. Cowboys in the ‘90s.
• The "wonkiest NFL QB career" poll: Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Nick Foles.
• Cowherd and Niners talent evolution, the modern QB's learning curve.
• NFL rule changes and how they’ve altered the game, rookie QBs, and the preseason’s new role.
• Veteran QB longevity (Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady) in today's less-punishing, sophisticated NFL.

Insights & Notable Quotes:

• On the Cowboys’ mystique:
  "It feels like there’s something that’s special about you. But it’s not. You have to go earn it."
  — Steve Young [32:22]
• On what made the ‘90s Cowboys dominant:
  "They were amazing. Beating them was monumental... hall of Famers everywhere... that’s just the fact."
  — Steve Young [32:50]
• Why Dallas has a perennial ceiling:
  "The owner has not empowered anybody else to go in the locker room and threaten to fire anyone ... Without real authority, you lose something, and every coach would tell you it’s a big piece of getting a great team together."
  — Steve Young [34:34]
• On his Tampa Bay years:
  "We had good players, we just didn’t have the superstructure to get it done... Who says when they’re first year, when they’re losing, 'No, I'm a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I’m killing it, man.'"
  — Steve Young [36:05]
• Rule changes and rookie QBs today:
  "...the difference between college and pro has really narrowed... the game has gotten more similar, so rookie QBs have a shot."
  — Steve Young [37:28]
• On Brock Purdy and new challenges:
  "That dynamic does change... You get paid, and you have to deal with that. There are people who have failed at that transition ... Brock’s done an amazing job, but this season, you’re going to need new faces to step up big."
  — Steve Young [39:46]
• Preseason and training camps then vs now:
  "Preseason is really just to get in shape. No one wants to hit... September is the real preseason now. The game’s sophistication has really been reduced."
  — Steve Young [41:53]
• Longevity for QBs in today’s NFL:
  "If your arm is still in pretty good shape, you can play for a while."
  — Steve Young [46:13]

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4. John Fogerty: 'Center Field,' Rock Legacy & Baseball Immortality

Timestamps: [52:15] – [60:33]

Main Topics:

• John Fogerty's "Center Field" inducted—song & iconic bat-shaped guitar—into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
• Inspiration behind the song and making the bat guitar.
• Ownership of his music and motivations for re-recording classics with his sons (new album: Legacy).
• Woodstock memories and reflections on aging as a singer.

Insights & Notable Quotes:

• On songwriting & 'Center Field':
  "I'd sit down and watch that [Saturday] game and be yelling at the screen... sometimes it'd be a phenom... not going well with the team you’re rooting for. I'd be yelling: 'Put me in, coach!'"
  — John Fogerty [54:29]
• Recognizing Jackie Robinson:
  "It's not about DiMaggio... it's about Jackie Robinson. If I'm writing a baseball song, he better be in there."
  — John Fogerty [55:57]
• Why re-record classics now?
  "I decided to give myself a gift and record a lot of the old Credence songs I had written... It would be a gift to my fans."
  — John Fogerty [56:51]
• Woodstock scheduling, and Jimi Hendrix:
  "The man on the phone had promised me the headlining spot Saturday... I believe Credence went on Sunday morning early."
  — John Fogerty [58:36], [59:24]
• Voice at 80:
  "My falsetto’s not quite as pure as it used to be... but I’m certainly as loud as I ever was."
  — John Fogerty [59:53]

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5. Listener Calls & Life Advice

Timestamps: [29:18] – [30:56]

• Advice for a new college journalism student and her dad:
  "Be confident, be proud of her... Volunteer for everything. Outwork everybody else."
  — Dan Patrick [29:30]
• Lighthearted banter about emotional goodbyes—Dan’s attempts to stay strong for his daughters.

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Notable Moments & Quotes

• On Jerry Jones' staying power:
  "The media would like to have Jerry around. He’s always been good for our business."
  — Ed Werder [05:13]
• Dan’s poll question on the “wonkiest QB career":
  "(Steve Young's) route to get there was abnormal... he didn’t become a Pro Bowler until 31."
  — Dan Patrick [28:53]
• Dan Patrick on NFL salary dynamics:
  "I've been vocal... I like Dak as a person, but I just wouldn't sign him up for that kind of money."
  — Dan Patrick [09:20]
• On Tom Brady's enduring talent:
  "Brady could still play, couldn't he?"
  — Dan Patrick [46:00]
  "If his arm is still there, you can play for a while."
  — Steve Young [46:13]

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Tone and Flow

• Conversational & irreverent: The hosts mix deep-dive sports discussion with laughter and casual storytelling.
• Candid & insightful: Both Ed Werder and Steve Young provide honest behind-the-scenes perspectives seldom heard elsewhere.
• Nostalgic & personal: Fogerty’s music segment and the proposal advice segment blend nostalgia and personal reflection, giving the show extra warmth and color.

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Episode Timeline

• [02:36] Cowboys deep dive w/ Ed Werder (On Jerry Jones, team culture, fan sentiment, and division rivalries)
• [14:43] Listener proposal advice & marriage stories (humorous crew stories)
• [29:18] Listener calls for college advice
• [31:23] Steve Young interview (NFL evolution, QBs, Cowboys rivalries, and rule-change impact)
• [52:15] John Fogerty interview (baseball anthem, musical legacy, and life reflections)

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For New Listeners

If you missed this episode, you missed smart sports journalism, unique access (with Hall of Fame voices from both sports and music), and a quintessential sampling of Dan Patrick Show camaraderie. Whether you’re a Cowboys fan, a classic rock buff, or just want to hear how Hall of Famers view their own careers and life’s changes, this one is packed with insightful and entertaining content.

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Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Ed Werder worked 26 years at ESPN. Recognized by the Pro Football hall of Fame. He's been covering the Cowboys since 1989, and this season he's covering the boys for WFAA TV. Ed Werder, Cowboy Insider, joining us on the program, what was your first impression of Jerry Jones?

[Ed Werder]

My first impression of Jerry Jones was formed in 1989 when I first moved to the Dallas Metroplex to cover the Cowboys for the Fort Worth Star Telegram. He was definitely a huge personality. I didn't have a lot to compare it to at the time. I've been covering the Denver Broncos, and Pat Boland was obviously maintained a different profile, but yeah, it was, it was clear that, you know, Jerry was somebody who could not embrace criticism, but he could withstand it and that he was going to be a very prominent personality in the league for as long as he owned the franchise.

[Dan Patrick]

Why do we have a cowboy documentary like why now is and, and did you learn anything new? And I know you're, you're interviewed in this, but why now for a cow cowboy documentary?

[Ed Werder]

I think it's kind of a, a legacy, you know, piece for Jerry. He's 82 years old. They've been irrelevant in terms of competing for championships for 30 years. I think Jerry wanted, you know, something that sort of documented his place in the NFL and how it all began and what he accomplished during his career. And he wanted to take credit for certain things for which he has not yet been given credit. And I mean, there's just always, there's always the soap opera. I mean, there's always drama around the team. I mean, you know, Dan, most, most coaches, most general managers, the first thing that they want to do other than have a healthy football team is eliminate distractions. And Jerry's different in that he has said as recently as this training camp, when it gets quiet, I like to stir it up. And so for all of those reasons, the Cowboys are very good theater. And he had an offer of, you know, $50 million to cooperate and do this piece.

[Dan Patrick]

If fans in Dallas could vote whether they wanted Jerry to continue as the owner, how would that go?

[Ed Werder]

I think Jerry would win the three votes of his family members who were involved in the organization and might lose all of the remaining votes. I think the media would like to have keep Jerry around. He's, he's obviously good for what we do, always has been Good for our business. But, yeah, I mean, I thought that was one of the interesting things about this documentary and the timing. And one of the things that struck me while watching it was when Jerry came here in 1989, he was vilified. He was hated. Very, you know, strong dislike for him for, you know, firing Tom Landry, franchise icon, even though he had been losing. And many people, including his bosses within the organization, tech scram. Thought the end was. Had come or was near for Tom Landry. Jerry's the one who actually did it. And, you know, and here we are 35 years later, and a lot of that animosity still remains toward Jerry. And I didn't know if Cowboys fans, if football fans in general, would watch this documentary just out of curiosity or to have a sense of nostalgia or they would refuse to do so in protest over the way Jerry runs his business.

[Dan Patrick]

Any chance that Micah Parsons agent is the issue here in these negotiations?

[Ed Werder]

Look, I think that, first of all, it's not uncommon for the Cowboys to be this close to their opener and have a very prominent player unsigned.

[Dan Patrick]

They.

[Ed Werder]

It happened last year with CD Lamb. It happened with Ezekiel Elliott, who signed the week of Jason Garrett's first game of his final season. Happened last. Dak Prescott was about to get on the bus to go to the stadium. If Jerry would have waited any longer to sign Dak Prescott, he would have had to have Mike McCarthy call a timeout in the first quarter. But I think there, I. I don't know that David Mulagued is to blame specifically for this. He's had clients, certainly, you know, who have forced the issue to get the terms that they think are fair to them. And, I mean, Jalen Ramsey claimed the back injury, missed three game checks, and ultimately got traded, which was his desire. Micah Parsons might want to follow that routine to a point. I don't think Michael Parsons wants to be traded. And I think ultimately, Dan, like both sides, are complicit in where they are today. Micah Parsons was naive to engage Jerry Jones in contract negotiations without Mulaguetta, his representation being present. And Jerry was wrong after 35 years of being a general manager to think that he could reach a binding agreement with a superstar player while his agent was not involved.

[Dan Patrick]

We're talking to Ed Werder. He's been covering the Cowboys since 1989, working for WFAA TV in Dallas. Let's talk about the team on the field, though, because it feels like we talk about everything else on the periphery with the Cowboys. Comes down to how threatening is this team. If everybody's on the field, how good are the Cowboys?

[Ed Werder]

Generally speaking, when Dak Prescott has been healthy and played most or all of the season as a starting quarterback, the Cowboys have been in the playoffs. I think this is the first time in Dak's 10 year career as a Cowboy starting quarterback that they go into the season as probably the third best team in their own division. I mean, Philadelphia and Washington played the NFC championship game last year. The Cowboys went 1 in 3 against those two teams, although they didn't have Dak Prescott. I mean, Prescott's been the most dominant player in the division in the regular season. He's 33 and 8 against division opponents, but the division is certainly stronger now than it was early in his career. And so division championships are harder to win than when the defending super bowl champion is in your division and you're opening against them in less than two weeks and they have a first time, you know, head coach and Brian Schottenheimer, who. Danny has two jobs this year that he didn't have a year ago. One, he's a head coach. He wasn't the head coach last year. He was the offensive coordinator, but he wasn't the play caller. Now he's a play caller and the head coach. So he's got a lot to deal with that he hasn't had to do in, in his previous career.

[Dan Patrick]

And also more pressure on the Cowboys after what the commanders have done. And they've got their quarterback. It's a young team there. You know, if they get Terry McLaurin in there, we think they're going to be formidable. The Giants, it feels like it's maybe wait till next year, Dak and his age and what he gets paid and like that surprised me. I've been very vocal that I like Dak as a person. He's been very good to the show. I just wouldn't sign him up for that kind of money. I just, I didn't understand that, you know, bringing back Zeke Kelly, like there's certain things that Jerry has done really well or his, his team has done really well. But the Dak part of it, 32 coming off an injury and you're paying him $60 million, it's amazing that a.

[Ed Werder]

Year later he still has by $5 million, the highest average salary in the NFL among players at any position. That just speaks, I think, not only to his value to the Cowboys and Jerry's fear of not having a franchise type quarterback going into a season without somebody he thinks can win games on a consistent basis. I Mean, how fortunate are the Cowboys? Dak Prescott was a fourth round pick. Tony Romo was an undrafted player. They've had 20 years of high level quarterbacking without investing a first round pick. And in the case of Dak and his salary, I mean, it's really just leverage. It's what Micah Parsons is going through now. You know, Dak and his agent mastered that. I mean, they forced the Cowboys to franchise tag. They'd never franchise tagged a quarterback in their history. They franchise tagged Dak twice and ultimately Jerry feared losing him. And so he did what it took.

[Dan Patrick]

How did the Eagles not end up back in this Super Bowl?

[Ed Werder]

I think it all comes down to injuries. If, you know, Jalen Hurts stays healthy. If their, you know, defense with Vic Fangio, which could be the youngest in the NFL this year, holds up, I do expect the Eagles to be the first team to repeat as division champions since Philadelphia did that in 2004 with Andy Reid. This is a division, as you know. Interestingly, F has had a new champion for 20 plus consecutive years. That being said, I still think there's a big difference between Washington and Philadelphia, all things being equal. We saw that in the NFC Championship game when Philadelphia dominated that game and dominated the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. They're a really good team. Their front office takes a completely different approach to being proactive and signing their best players. You would think maybe Jerry Jones would study that and apply that to his franchise. He's chosen to do just the opposite.

[Dan Patrick]

What's the craziest story you've ever been involved in or heard about the Cowboys? You can leave out names if you need to.

[Ed Werder]

I mean, I think we, we saw them in the documentary. You know, the Michael Irvin situation, being arrested with drug charges, there being a murder for hire plot involved in the trial, him ultimately missing six games to start a season, and Deion Sanders becoming, you know, Troy Aikman's number one receiver. So it's hard to, it's hard to say that. There's just been so much Dan over time and it's all played out very publicly. So I don't know that there's something that we have that we're not aware of that I could share with you. Even if I eliminated the names, that would be more curious than all of the things we've seen happen openly.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I felt the same way when I watched the documentary. But, you know, I've been around, you know, doing this professionally for 40 years. But somebody who was younger, let's say you're 30 years of age, and your entire lifetime, Dallas hasn't won anything. And then all of a sudden, you take a trip down memory lane. You're like, damn, we used to be good. We used to have stars who wore that star on their helmet.

[Ed Werder]

Well, I think the thing that, you know, comes through when you watch the documentary is what a great coach Jimmie Johnson was, not only in terms of identifying and developing talent and making, you know, the Herschel Walker trade, which was a unique move in the whole history of the league by a relatively novice NFL coach at the time, but he also was a master psychologist. And the players on that team, the principal leaders of that team, unlike those today, like, they met the challenge in the postseason, they were up for it. We haven't seen that from a Cowboys team in over 30 years, where the Cowboys play their best in the biggest moments against the best opponents.

[Dan Patrick]

Always great to talk to you. You always got something to cover, though, with the Cowboys. You imagine if you were covering Jacksonville Arizona.

[Ed Werder]

I'm very fortunate that I took an offer from the Fort Worth Star Telegram when I was a young reporter, even though it wasn't really a job I wanted at the time. I wanted to stay in Denver and work at the Denver Post and had the opportunity to do that, but wound up coming to Fort Worth covering the Cowboys ever since. And, yeah, I. I've always said I wouldn't have had the career I've had if not for the fact I was so close to covering, you know, I was involved in covering the Cowboys and all the curious situations that happened with them.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm glad you are. Good to talk to you. Thanks again. Thanks. Dan Edward, Cowboys insider for WFAA TV in Dallas. It's. It's not something where you show up at work and you go, man, maybe something today. You know, when you show up at work, something is going to happen. That's just the way it's been. A couple of phone calls in here. Ellen in Wisconsin. Hi, Ellen. What's on your mind today? I want to give the young man who's gonna be proposing this weekend some old lady advice. Okay, that's Aiden. And Aiden in Utah is getting engaged this weekend. Okay, Ellen, quickly. Flowers, flowers and more flowers. And now the important one is he needs to reach out to her best friend or her sister. This buys him two things. Number one, it buys him goodwill that he wants. He keeps saying the word perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect. Number two, what it really does is it absolves him of all guilt if, you know, all blame. If she are even worse, her mother doesn't like the way it went down. All right. You got to keep the mother in law quiet as well long as humanly possible. So that's all I've got. You guys have a great weekend. Thank you. Thank you. Ellen, I think you're making it a little more complicated than it needs to be. Now I get her best friend and maybe her mom involved and then people can't keep a secret. The less the better. Make it quick. The less people know, the better.

[Ed Werder]

Yes, Marvin, question for everybody in the room.

[Devin]

Did you guys ask your wives, dads for permission?

[Dan Patrick]

No. No, Satan. I did. Yeah. Todd.

[Todd]

Yeah. I made both parents aware of what the game plan was going to be.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ask or you just made them aware?

[Todd]

I didn't formally say about asking their hand in marriage. I, I think I basically said I'm going to be knowing that they wanted me to, that I'm going to be proposing on this day and time and just to make them aware that.

[Dan Patrick]

Baggage claim at jfk.

[Todd]

Yeah, I actually needed them to be following behind because I was getting picked up by Jen at the airport and I needed the in laws to bring a bag so they would have clothes from Miami to not ruin the surprise that we were heading to Miami right after proposing.

[Dan Patrick]

Nothing more romantic than baggage claim at jfk.

[Todd]

Got that right.

[Dan Patrick]

I, I see that in movies all the time. You know, Tom Hanks or Julia Roberts. It's probably a baggage claim. Yes, it is something right out of a movie actually. It really is. Yeah. See that's where you get with the baggage claim guy and then you get a piece of luggage, her luggage, and then you have it come off the chute and it says, will you marry me? Oh, I'm writing scripts here. I am writing scripts.

[Todd]

Is there really a baggage claim guy these days? Like there's like someone that's assigned to the carousel five.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. Todd, you're a producer. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan used to pay the guy at the airport extra money, like 20 bucks to make sure his bags came off first because they would always bet whose bags would come off first.

[Todd]

Well, that's just it. That's 20 bucks. I'd be giving him like two or three singles and he's like, get out of here. And then they would never happen.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Paul. I don't think I heard before that.

[Ed Werder]

Todd, after the proposal, whisked his wife away to Miami on a surprise trip.

[Devin]

Is that correct?

[Todd]

Yeah, I had a red eye flight from LA to New York. I landed like 6 in the morning and I had a 9am scheduled flight for the both of us. To assuming she was gonna say yes to celebrate for three nights at the Eden Rock Hotel on South beach on Collins Avenue.

[Ed Werder]

That's a strong move.

[Devin]

I'm gonna give him bonus points for that.

[Todd]

That would've been a lot of things to cancel for flights and hotels and shit. You know what?

[John Fogerty]

Nah.

[Todd]

I met somebody.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you do have a girlfriend in Miami, an ex girlfriend.

[Todd]

I do. I don't know if she still lives there. It's been. I haven't communicated with her in a while, but that. Yeah, that would be the lovely Lana. Little Russian girl from the hood, from the neighborhood.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I know. And. And remember, we were at the Clevelander, I think, and all of a sudden I see. I see Fritzi with this woman, and you.

[Todd]

You like I did very quickly said, you know, I got a lot of yentas, a lot of gossiping staff members. Let's just get out of here before they start asking questions.

[Dan Patrick]

And then I see him later. I go, what was that? He goes, ah, just a old girlfriend. I said, well, you made it worse by kind of sneaking away.

[Todd]

It didn't make it worse. I just said, this is a girl. I used to go out. She wanted to come see the show. As opposed to let's get out of here before they know, find out what's happening.

[John Fogerty]

Stop, Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

She was. She was good looking.

[Todd]

She introduced me. She introduced me to her friend back at the apartment, and that's pretty much where it ended.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, now get that started.

[Ed Werder]

Get that on record.

[Todd]

There's a big difference between thought bubbles and things that actually happen in the world.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you lead the league in I'm.

[Todd]

Guilty of a major.

[Dan Patrick]

Absolutely. I thought you go to jail with your thought bubbles. All right, when we come back, best week in sports.

[Ed Werder]

You got.

[Todd]

Like, how can you talk sports for three hours? Yankees 5. Guardians 3. Get over it.

[Dan Patrick]

That was at Big Dean's in Santa Monica when we did the meet and greet. And of course, Todd ran into somebody who had his face on her shirt. And next thing you know, Todd is chatting her up.

[Todd]

Did I know you? Why is your face on a shirt? That's so weird. What do you guys do for a living? 99, 93 pistons. Get on with it.

[Dan Patrick]

I do think that's your best impersonation because you do capture that girl who's sitting next to her sister, and her sister has your face on her T shirt. And. And she can't understand it because she has no idea who you are.

[Todd]

No idea at all.

[Dan Patrick]

Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Devin]

He's Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer and we have a fantasy football podcast called I want your Flexed.

[Ed Werder]

That's right Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Every week we're going to scour the.

[Ed Werder]

Waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup. Sits starts fantasy football players rankings to.

[Todd]

Get you ready to to dominate the competition.

[Ed Werder]

Listen to I Want yout Flex with.

[Devin]

Mike Carmen and me, Dan Beyer on.

[Ed Werder]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and wherever.

[Devin]

You get your podcasts this Labor Day.

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Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Dan Patrick]

Attention passengers.

[Ed Werder]

The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like okay, pull this. Until this. Pull that. Turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Noah. This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show no such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Ed Werder]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See, listen to no such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Devin]

That's One Small Step for Man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Todd]

You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

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[John Lithgow]

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[John Fogerty]

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[John Lithgow]

Another beer and triumph over addiction.

[Devin]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself. Buzz. We intercepted a Soviet radio transmission starring me, John Lithgow.

[Todd]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Colombian.

[Noah de Barrasso]

I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything.

[Devin]

Sheesh.

[Noah de Barrasso]

Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[John Fogerty]

You kidding me?

[Noah de Barrasso]

Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it. But I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Maria Hinojosa]

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[Noah de Barrasso]

They're creating this narrative that immigrants are criminals.

[Ed Werder]

This is about everyone's freedom of speech.

[Dan Patrick]

Nobody expected two copes from the American.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Continent to stories about our cultures and our identities.

[Devin]

When you do get a trans character.

[Ed Werder]

Like Emilia Perez, the trans community is going to push back on that colorism.

[Noah de Barrasso]

All of these things like exist in Mexican culture and Latino culture.

[Maria Hinojosa]

You'll hear from people like Congresswoman Aoc.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't want to give them my fear.

[Noah de Barrasso]

I'm not going to give them my fear.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Listen to Latino USA as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Final hour on this Friday. It's a meat Friday. And in case you're wondering, and I know you are, what's on the menu? We have beef, strip loin roast. We have roast beef, sliders, corn on the cob, asparagus and mashed potatoes. Who has it better than we do? Steve Young, hall of famer will join us. Hall of Famer John Fogarty, who gave us so many great songs when he was lead singer of Creedence Clearwater Revival, his bat shaped guitar that he performed center field. That song is going into the Baseball hall of Fame and they're inducting the song as well. He'll join us coming up here in a little bit. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates. We're in over 400 cities around America. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show, NASCAR on NBC and Peacock. The playoffs NASCAR cup series closes out the regular season in primetime on the high banks of Daytona. Saturday 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, Seaton, what's the poll question for the final hour of this program? We got up there right now, which quarterback had the wonkiest career? Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Nick Foles. I feel like this is a little unfair. I don't know. People are like, why is Steve Young on this list? Because he, I don't know that they're properly understanding exactly what the poll question about. Nick Foles is running away with this one at 59%. Then Kurt Warner. Steve Young only has, you know, about 5% of that vote. But he did have a wonky career. Yes, in terms of it was very successful. Obvious hall of Famer, he's one of the greats of all time. But his route to get there was abnormal. Yeah, you start out in the usfl, he comes out of byu and then he goes to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is terrible. And then the Niners trade for him and he sits for four years. He doesn't become a Pro Bowler until 31. And he has a six year window where he put up hall of Fame numbers. I mean, that's not the traditional path to get into the Pro Football hall of Fame. Kurt Warner, kind of the same way. Greatest. You go from a nobody to. Then you're somebody. Trent Green gets hurt, he comes in, greatest show on turf. Mvp, win a Super bowl, go to another Super Bowl. Then all of a sudden you end up with the Giants and you're backing up Eli Manning. And then you go to Arizona and you take them to the Super Bowl. Those aren't direct routes to get into the Pro Football hall of Fame. But Kurt Warner and Steve Young took those indirect routes. Nick Foles is not a Hall of Famer, and that's why he's winning this. All right, a couple of phone calls. John in Cincinnati. Hi, John. What's on your mind today? Adp, longtime listener, called a few times.

[Ed Werder]

I need your adv.

[Dan Patrick]

Today we are in the car on the way to Athens, Ohio, to drop.

[Ed Werder]

My daughter off her freshman year.

[Dan Patrick]

She's going to be a broadcast journalism major.

[Ed Werder]

So we need your advice for me as a dad dropping off and for.

[Dan Patrick]

Her as an aspiring journalism student. Can you help us out? All right, John, you're proud of your daughter and you show her the great respect by not being emotional, that you're confident. She's going to be great. Let her, let her. See, now she's in the car probably hearing this. So it's going to take away from that moment. But I always wanted to show my kids, especially my three daughters, that I trusted, I believed in them and we gave them kind of a great background or a head start and getting to college and being able to handle everything that goes along with that. So be confident, be proud of her, and let her know that as far as your daughter getting to Ohio University, volunteer for everything. Campus radio, campus newspaper. If there's a local TV station that you can work on weekends, you can work nights, whatever it is, you must outwork everybody else, and that'll give you a chance to be able to do this for a living. But good luck, John, with the trip and to your daughter. Thank you so much. All right. Yeah. My voice would quiver when I would say goodbye to my daughters. My wife said, be strong. You said you were going to Be strong and like I am. I think I'm being strong. Mike in Wisconsin. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today, Dan? Hey, Mike.

[Ed Werder]

I just thought I would.

[Dan Patrick]

Hello, Dan. Hey, Mike. Hey, Dan. Hey, Mike. Hey, Dan. See you, Mike. Oh, have a good one. Anywho, one of my favorite guests of all time, Steve Young, joining us on the program. How you feeling, Dan? Great.

[Devin]

How are you, buddy?

[Dan Patrick]

I'm good. I'm good. I saw you in the documentary on the Cowboys.

[Devin]

Yeah, I haven't. I gotta watch that. I haven't seen it. Was it good? Was I.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you're always good, but I. I didn't learn anything from it, and I've been around it too long, so that's probably on me, that I've heard all the stories. Therefore, you knew everything. Yes. Yes. But if you're young, if you're 30 or younger, then you're probably saying, oh, that's when we used to be really good.

[Devin]

But, yeah, it is weird. It's weird that the Cowboys have struggled for so long, yet they're still America's team. And Jerry's done a great job of that. Right. He's created this image. And I was talking to Jason Garrett the other day, ironically, about it, like the. You. You know, you. You. You go out, you try out for the Cowboys, you make the team, and now you're. Now you're special, but you're. You're actually not. You got to go earn it. And I. I've always had to. I always said that the Cowboys should start with no stars on their helmet, and then when they get the 10 wins, put a star on, and then when you get to the playoffs, you know, or you get in the champion, you get another star. And then, like. Because otherwise, it feels like there's something that's special about you. But it's. But there's. But it's not. You have to go earn it. So it's a weird dynamic with the Cowboys because of what they've done with America's team.

[Dan Patrick]

But that was your rival. When you were with the Niners, would you consider the Cowboys your main rival?

[Devin]

Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? They were amazing. They were. They. They were. They were amazing. They were. They were. They were a fantastic team, and beating them was monumental. I mean, I was just. And they were as good as anyone you've ever seen, so that's just a fact.

[Dan Patrick]

But who was the. The person like that? That's. The. The most important person on the Cowboys was who?

[Devin]

I mean, they were loaded. And you always see the quarterback with Troy. But I mean, it was. In many ways, you know, they had a. We gave him Charles Haley. I mean, that was a great move, right?

[Todd]

1981.

[Devin]

Right. Let's. Let's hand you a Hall of Fame defensive end just in time. Just speak. To make our lives miserable. That's awesome. That was just. That was the best we've ever made. That was great. But I mean, Emmett was the guy that rent. Like, you know, Emmett just, you know, that was. That was what they did. Right? They. They played off of Emmett and then throwing the ball. Play action and Michael. I mean, there's just. There's just hall of Famers everywhere. Right? That's just the fact.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And then Jimmy Johnson, you know, the architect there with. And back then, it felt like he had more control or more say than Jerry did. But does Jerry. Does Jerry know? Because it was what, I don't know how many. Six months ago, eight months ago, when you were on our show and you talked about that. The problem is Jerry Jones. That didn't come up in the documentary, did it?

[Devin]

No, of course not. We did talk about it, and it's pretty obvious. So it's not like it's a hot take or anything because the owner has not empowered anybody else to go in. In the locker room and threaten to fire anyone. Because if, as a coach, you have to be able to lock. Walk in the locker room and people have to have. Not fear, but at least the respect that I am going to make this team and if, you know, I'm going to form it in my image and if I. If you don't, you know, do what I ask or, like, do it well or do, you know, this is a. This is a place for elite performers. I'm gonna have. You're gonna go. And when you walk in the locker room and nobody really believes that you have that power. You can't. It's imp. The foot, you know. You know, NFL. It's just. It's so intense and so competitive. They lose something there. And. And I think Jerry. Jimmy Johnson had it. We all get that. We all recognize that Jerry didn't like it. You know, we've kind of. That was. You know, I don't think that's a hot take either. And has never really, in my mind, empowered anybody to come in and really take control of the team and be able to run it. Not run it, but able to coach it with authority. And I think that's a. That's a. That's a big piece. And any coach would tell you that it's a big piece of being able to get a great team together.

[Dan Patrick]

Steve Young, the Hall of Fame quarterback, if I would have told you in Tampa you're going to go to the hall of Fame when you were with the Buccaneers, what would you have said?

[Devin]

I said, well, James Wilder and Jimmy Giles are going to be amazing because we had, we had good play like we were, we didn't win. But I always said we weren't losers. Like, like James Wilder. I don't even know that name at all. But these guys that I played with were not losers. We just didn't have the superstructure to go get it done. So I don't, I would have said, how exactly is this going to happen? But I will tell you that in the middle of it, I had, I think I had a coach, Jimmy Ray, who, you know, turned to me a couple of times, just said, look, you're going to be good, so just hang in there. Like, you know, we've got to get some help, but you're going to be good. And I think I took that as a flare or a signal that like, things are going to be okay. But hall of Fame, you know, I mean, who, who says when their first year, when they're losing? No, I'm a Hall of Famer. Yeah, that's going to be great. You know, I'm, I'm killing it, man. It's, it's so good. I can't wait to lose another 12 games.

[Dan Patrick]

I think, I think you were three and 16 as a starter.

[Devin]

Oh, thanks, Dan. I appreciate it. You're always on top of that. Hey, that was, those, those three were hard fought, man.

[Dan Patrick]

I'll bet they were. I'll bet they were. Where do you rookie quarterbacks starting games?

[Devin]

It's more, it's more likely today because the difference between college and pro has really narrowed because of world changes. You and I have talked about this at length and it's really limited defense's ability to launch their bodies and patrol the field. And so it slowed the game down. And so it's allowed for college type offenses to start to infiltrate the NFL maybe. And the innovators would, you know, Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid and Sean Payton. Eight years ago, when the, when the world changes, they were, they thrived, right, because they were innovative in, in, into this new, this new rule, this new game that's got more space. And so you get to one of those guys as a rookie, I think there's a chance that things could go really well and I think because they now can run offenses, you can show up with Caleb Williams and say, look, we're going to run stuff that you're comfortable with. Because they can. Wasn't the case in the old days. They couldn't run college stuff. They get smashed. But today you can run college offenses. And really if you watch the pros in the college game, they're very, very similar. And in that way it helps rookie quarterbacks transition, especially guys that are going to make it. And it's a, it's a, it's a sign that now you'll go back to Tampa Bay. You might question about Tampa Bay. You still need lots of help. And there are a dozen teams in the league that I would not want my son to go play quarterback for. But there's more. There were only seven or six or five back in the day that I want my son to go play quarterback for. So it's gotten a lot better. Two thirds of the league, I think pretty good imaginative. And they've all come from that, that tree. Vandy Reid, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan and Sean, I mean those are those all the coaches that have infiltrated the NFL with all this innovation is pretty much every, you know, ubiquitous in the league today. So but yeah, rookies have a shot.

[Dan Patrick]

And because of that, Brock Purdy went from a feel good story, Mr. Irrelevant, you know, competing in big games and now you get that big paycheck and now the expectations come with that. Can you speak to that of what that feels like or where the pressure now you got to produce and you got a lot of your weapons either traded away or injured.

[Devin]

It's a new hurdle. Every quarterback that is going to be good or great is going to face those kinds of hurdles, right? You're going to get paid and in the NFL it's going to be a thing. And now you have to deal that, we deal with that with your teammates because it's just so uneven in, in pay scale and how attention and, and Brock has done an amazing job being very humble, very team oriented, very I'm, you know, one all for one and one for all. And it's been really easy to, you know, make that true because he was getting paid less than everybody. So that does. That dynamic does change, Dan. And so you have to kind of jump over that hurdle or walk through that filter and play through it. And so that's going to start this season and that's a piece of it. There are people that have failed at, at that transition and never really got a hand you know, kind of handle on it. I think Brock's going to handle it really well. Now you get to the part where you said, well, who's going to help me? Do I have the guys? And it's certainly different than two years ago. This team was completely loaded last two years ago, and today it's had to transition and. And some of it because they paid him. So we get that. I've said this many times, but this year is one of those years where if you're a fan of the 49ers, the jerseys that you're wearing right now on opening day, yeah, we get that, you know, Kittle and Purdy and Warner and, you know, and that kind of thing, but in McCaffrey. But if we're going to actually give him enough help and he's going to be able to get to the, you know, go the distance or get close to the, you know, you know, the, the super bowl, you're going to have to be wearing by Thanksgiving jerseys that you don't know right now. Guys that showed up, either drafted like, you know, or come onto the team, and now all of a sudden they're. They've made such big, you know, addition to the team. You're now wearing their jersey by Thanksgiving, and that's the kind of season we have to have to actually be able to do it. So there's young players, rookies everywhere that have to be big time to make it all work.

[Dan Patrick]

Didn't preseason used to matter to the. To the starters?

[Devin]

Well, yeah, I mean, preseason with. Look again, rule changes, right. OTAs are really cut down. Time with coaches is cut down. Preseason is really just to kind of get in shape. No one wants to hit, you know, because they don't want to get hurt. They don't want to play because they don't want to get hurt. And the game is really today. Let's gather a bunch of guys through free, you know, whatever it is, put our 50, 50 guys together and let's, you know, throw it out there in September, you know, first week of September. And that's why I say the preseason today is the first month of September. That's. You just want to get out of the preseason, which is September, like 4,0 would be awesome. 3, 1. Great. 2 and 2. Fine. You know, but, you know, anything less because you just don't know who you are, what it's going to be. And it's a. It's a. It's a Wild west kind of a thing in September. You just want to try to manage through it, because preseason is really a thing of the past and I think you're even seeing it now because they've reduced the game. Guys don't play and. Yeah, so it's, you know, used to be four games, you played three of them. You know, you started full pads the first day. 2A days like it's. There was a lot more hitting and they just, they want to make the game, I think theoretically more safe and I think in some ways because you're not hitting each other and putting yourself at risk in practice in all summer. It's probably true. Less, less risk. But I think that's the rule changes have been tried to do that and it's really affected. That's why I said the play today. Guys that played before the rule changes would say the sophistication of the game has really been reduced. Is it super competitive still? Absolutely. And I think the fans are like, this is an amazing game because it's so competitive. But the guys that played before the rule changes would say it's really, I don't, I'm not going to say dumbed down, but it's, it's had to be reduced in sophistication just because I don't have the time to actually do everything. That's why the innovators, the guys I mentioned before, are so amazing because they're able to, to innovate into the game when there's such a reduced amount of time to spend with the players.

[Dan Patrick]

When will Aaron Rodgers look 40, look his age? Like, what part of his game will we see age?

[Devin]

We, we actually saw it coming off of the Achilles because that's when he was trying to recover and you know, he didn't have his. He's always been able to threaten the line of scrimmage and I think that's part of his, his game as he ages. You're not going to threaten the line of scrimmage nearly as much with your legs. But I think he's back to a place where he can now have confidence that that is, you know, his body is, is healed and well. And so I think he's going to look, you know, late 30s, right. I don't think he's going to look that old. But, but the real, the key to the game, Dan, and that's the problem is that there's so many yards, there's so many touchdowns out there for free for quarterbacks who threaten the line of scrimmage and especially in the big games. And so that's where he's going to have to Decide do I actually still do that? Because I don't think it's possible to go the distance without that ability in today's game. Because you look at the super bowl and championship games are all won by guys threatening the line of scrimmage and making those big plays and creating that space. And, and so that's the challenge for Aaron. But he'll have a. I think he'll have a very good season. I think the Steelers will be classically. Steelers will play great defense and, and win. Win games and, you know, close ones. And he'll. He'll. He'll have a better season than he's had and, and then he'll get into January and see if they can make. Make some noise. And I think that'll be, That'll be in a dynamic, you know, you know, focused on, you know, Aaron Rodgers is going to be in the mix just because, again, I go back, I don't mean to belabor this, but he was, he was born and bred in a more sophisticated era, so he can take advantage. That's why he's still playing. That's why Tom wanted to play. That's why Peyton wanted to. Peyton was so pissed because his arm fell off. Like, he's, like, I could still do this for another 10 years because I'm playing in an era where they can't hit me. The middle of the field's unpatrolled and the flats are open, so let's go. And I think that Aaron knows that.

[Dan Patrick]

And Brady could still play, couldn't he?

[Devin]

He could still start, I think, to me, learning in a more sophisticated area now, playing today, as long as your arm is, you know, that's Drew Brees lost his arm, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Devin]

Ayton's arm. I mean, Tom, if his arm is still there, you can. I think you can still play. I don't know how. You know, at some point, you know, you slow down enough where you can't make the throw that you need to make, and it just shows up and defenses start to creep and, and then you start taking the air out of the room, and pretty soon you just can't. You know, first downs become really hard. I mean, that's inevitable. But as far as just, you know, if your arm is still in pretty good shape, you can play for a while.

[Dan Patrick]

Great to talk to you, as always. Thanks for joining us.

[Devin]

Yeah, you're the man.

[Dan Patrick]

Steve Young, hall of Famer. We'll take a break. Another hall of Famer, John Fogerty, will join us. The Rock and Roll hall of Famer right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor Day.

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[Manny]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Ed Werder]

Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this, pull that, turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Noah. This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions that like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Ed Werder]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See, listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Devin]

It's One Small Step for Man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Todd]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Devin]

As far as I'm concerned.

[Todd]

The best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

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[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[John Fogerty]

What do you say, Buzz? Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Devin]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Ed Werder]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Ed Werder]

Can you put it through Translate on.

[John Lithgow]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Noah de Barrasso]

Columbia, I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you know with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything, Sheesh. Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[John Fogerty]

You kidding me?

[Noah de Barrasso]

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[Dan Patrick]

He's still out there on the road, rocking. John Fogerty, singer, songwriter, hall of Famer, just turned 80 in May and today a new album, Legacy, is being released as he re recorded some of his most beloved songs with the help of his sons Shane and Tyler. Have you seen the rain, Fortunate Sun, Proud Mary, Bad Moon Rising, but a big baseball fan. His song Center Field, the only song to be officially inducted into the Baseball hall of Fame as we make way for John Fogarty, former lead singer of Creedence Clearwater Revival. John, great to talk to you again. What was your reaction when you realized that the bat, guitar and the song Center Field were becoming part of the Baseball hall of Fame?

[John Fogerty]

Oh, that was right around maybe a couple months before it actually happened, is right around the time that it occurred. I didn't get a lot of time to think about all the implications. You know, I, I was certainly very proud. Still proud.

[Dan Patrick]

And then who. Whose idea was it to make a guitar out of a baseball bat or resemble a baseball bat?

[John Fogerty]

Oh, that was my idea. I'd written center field, you know, more or less deciding that that's kind of where my mind had been over the. All the years of my life, you know, and just felt comfortable about, you know, center field as an album was kind of a comeback for me, you might say, career wise. And the place to me that was sort of ground zero was center field. It seemed like especially on a lot of teams, the. The alpha male on the team seemed to be the center fielder, you know, like Willie Mays with the Giants or back in the day, Babe Ruth before they moved him to right field, I think Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, you know, you can go on, but anyway, and so I wrote the song and then eventually decided to name the album Center Field. Actually, it's the reverse. I named the album Center Field and didn't have a song. And then I came up with that guitar lick, you know, and realized that I started, I started just saying the things I said in life. I'd watch the Saturday game of the week, baseball. You know, there was one game on TV on Saturday and I'd sit down and watch that and I'd be yelling at the screen screen, you know, like we do when something good happened or bad. And sometimes it'd be A phenom, you know, and something going not going well with the team you're rooting for. And I'd be yelling, put me in, coach. Put me. You know, you know how you enjoy and interact with the game. And all of that stuff started coming out when I was playing that guitar lick and I realized I had a song that could be center field. So that came first. The album came out in 85, and it was a big success and all that. And I decided, well, you know, I'm going to be touring pretty soon. Wow, it'd be cool to be able to play center field on a baseball bat. So that's how it started for me.

[Dan Patrick]

Now, clear up something, because I think I asked you about this a while ago that you say brown eyed handsome man, and I thought you were talking about Joe DiMaggio because he played center field. And you said it's not about Joe DiMaggio, it's about Jackie Robinson.

[John Fogerty]

Absolutely. I realize he's not the center fielder, and I guess I took a little tributary in the musical world there, but it just seemed important to me that that's a line that's in a Chuck Berry song, brown eyed handsome man, and he talks about rounding third, headed and for home. And so that I just sort of borrowed that in my homage to Jackie Robinson. After all, if I'm writing a baseball song, he better be in there.

[Dan Patrick]

We're talking to John Fogarty, formerly of Creedence Clearwater Revival, Rock and Roll hall of Famer, has a new album called Legacy that comes out today. Some re recordings with his sons, Shane and Tyler. You got fortunate, son. Have you seen the rain? Proud Mary. So tell me, what went into this project?

[John Fogerty]

Well, you know, I recently got my songs back, the ownership a couple years ago, and that's a great big deal to any songwriter, of course, or any writer of any kind of material. And so finally, after more than 50 years of trying, I finally got the ownership of those songs back. It was actually facilitated by my dear wife, Julie. She's the one that really manifested this and made it happen. You know, she's a force of nature and God bless her. So with that in mind, finally accomplishing that, it just seemed kind of a natural progression to here in the present. You know, I just turned 80 this year. And the idea basically was, well, what do you do? What kind of a gift would I like? So I decided to give myself a gift and record a lot of the old Credence songs I had written so many years ago again. And hopefully it would be seen as a Gift also to my fans. And that was the motivation this time involving my family, meaning my wife and certainly my sons, Shane and Tyler, who are in my band, and they helped produce the record as well. So it was a family endeavor and, you know, a lot of love in that respect, making this record.

[Dan Patrick]

Take me back to Woodstock. What day were you on with Credence Clearwater Revival?

[John Fogerty]

Well, it was supposed to be on Saturday night. The man on the phone had promised me that a prime spot, you know, the headlining spot on Saturday night. It's going to be nine o', clock, man. That's prime time. But things got later and later and later. This was, of course, during the era of hippies. I'm not sure anybody actually had a watch, but the whole. The whole program got later and later. And somewhere around midnight of Saturday, the Grateful Dead went on, and then they sort of stalled around on stage for a while. Nobody quite knew what was going on. I believe Credence went on Sunday morning early around.

[Dan Patrick]

Were you there when Hendrix set his guitar on fire?

[John Fogerty]

No, that was actually Monday morning. That was after the whole night of Sunday, you know, the whole festivities of the Sunday evening going into 12am and 1 and 2 and 3. Then the sun came up, and that's Monday morning when Jimmy went on.

[Dan Patrick]

The difference in your voice now at 80 as opposed to 30.

[John Fogerty]

Ah, well, my. I know my falsetto is not quite as strong and pure as it used to be. You know, it's a little different around the edges, I think, but it's certainly as strong. I'm certainly as loud as I ever was, and that's probably as much to. I. I've been a runner all my life, and so I think all those miles of running kind of helped my stamina.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, congrats on a great run, and it's not over. He's a Rock and Roll hall of Famer as a songwriter and, of course, as a singer. My best to the family, certainly. Julie and John, thank you for joining us.

[John Fogerty]

Thank you. Dance. Always great to see you.

[Dan Patrick]

John Fogarty. The album is Legacy, being released today. I met him. I'm trying to think how many years ago this. Almost 10 years ago at Howard Stern's 60th birthday party. And Gary Delavate, Howard's longtime producer, invited me to come on and introduce Dave Grohl. And I said, okay. But I get there, and immediately I'm told by somebody, hey, John Fogarty wants to meet you. I'm thinking, all right, this is. I mean, it's the Howard Stern Show. So I'm you know, somebody's punking me here. You know, Baba Bowie is going to jump out or, you know, stuttering John or somebody. And I. I go back, you know, through these hallways, and all of a sudden, I just walked up to a door and knock on the door, and John's wife answers. I said, I'm supposed to say hello to John. And she goes, he's been waiting for you. I walk in, and there he is. He's got his plaid shirt, his signature plaid shirt on, and he listens every morning in Los Angeles. And I said, okay, this has already proven to be a great night. Then I go back into this kind of a green room, and I got Slash from Guns N Roses, and I got Dave Grohl. You know, you got all these people, and they're kind of getting ready to go on and have their performances. And I walk up to Dave Grohl, and I said, hey, I'm introducing you. He goes, I don't know anything about sports. My daughters play lacrosse. I said, well, I'm. Yeah, that has nothing to do with the introduction. He goes, yeah, this is what I want you to say that I. I grew up listening to Howard on a ham radio. And I. I said, okay. And then I just wanted to get it over with because, I mean, I had already had my highlight. I met John Fogarty, go out, say hello to Robin, say hello to Howard, introduce Dave Grohl, and then I'm out the door. But, you know, one of those surreal moments, because there's John Fogerty, Rock and Roll hall of Famer, and gave us so many great songs with Credence.

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