The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Best of The Dan Patrick Show Episode: The Best of The Dan Patrick Show
Release Date: July 31, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Overview

The Best of The Dan Patrick Show offers listeners an engaging compilation of memorable moments, in-depth interviews, and insightful discussions from Dan Patrick's highly acclaimed radio show. This episode features prominent guests from the sports and entertainment worlds, providing a blend of expert analysis, personal anecdotes, and humor. Key highlights include conversations with NFL quarterback Justin Herbert and Baseball Hall of Famer CC Sabathia, alongside guest appearances by soccer icon Megan Rapinoe.

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In-Depth Interview with Justin Herbert

Timestamp: 03:12 – 16:23

Dan Patrick kicks off the main content with an extensive interview with Justin Herbert, the dynamic quarterback for the Los Angeles Chargers. The discussion delves into Herbert’s collegiate career, his transition to the NFL, and his relationship with coach Jim Harbaugh.

• Career Decisions and Development

  Herbert reflects on his decision to stay for his senior year at Oregon:

  “I wanted to come back and make sure that we ended on the right foot. I still felt like I had so much to improve and get better at.” ([03:39])

• Relationship with Coach Jim Harbaugh

  Highlighting Harbaugh's influence:

  “He's an incredible coach. Everyone loves to play for him. We just want to make him proud.” ([04:17])

• Offensive Strategy and Play Style

  Discussing the Chargers' offensive philosophy:

  “For us to be successful, we have to be able to do everything. It starts with our run game...” ([06:40])

• Comparisons with Other Quarterbacks

  Comparing his play style to Josh Allen:

  “He's running between the tackles and able to take those hits... we expect that.” ([07:28])

• Advice to Rookie Quarterbacks

  Offering mentorship to newcomers:

  “Sacrifice now so you can enjoy everything later. Go through everything and watch an extra hour of film...” ([12:24])

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Conversation on Quarterback Evolution and Challenges

Timestamp: 16:23 – 23:06

The dialogue shifts to a broader discussion on the evolving role of quarterbacks in the NFL, featuring insights from Megan Rapinoe.

• Changing Nature of the Quarterback Position

  Dan highlights historical shifts:

  “It's the ability of offensive coordinators to have an imagination to not be locked in on this is how you play football.” ([17:36])

• Reference to Charlie Ward and Modern Quarterbacks

  Reflecting on past and present:

  “Now we want the quarterback who will get out on the edge, the guy who can be a runner, not just a thrower.” ([19:07])

• Impact of Innovative Players

  Discussing players like Lamar Jackson:

  “It's not the prototypical Dan Marino, Matthew Stafford, standing in the pocket... something different.” ([19:47])

• Generational Changes and Accessibility

  Megan adds perspective on community impact:

  “A lot of them didn't know how to swim because their parents weren't allowed to go in pools...” ([50:11])

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Feature Interview with CC Sabathia and Megan Rapinoe

Timestamp: 36:09 – 43:09

In a special segment, Dan engages with CC Sabathia, a freshly inducted Baseball Hall of Famer, and Megan Rapinoe, a renowned soccer player. The conversation explores their careers, pivotal moments, and personal experiences.

• CC Sabathia’s Hall of Fame Journey

  Sabathia shares his feelings on induction:

  “It feels good. I gave the speech and had a chance to get up there and see all the guys.” ([30:20])

• Megan Rapinoe’s Athletic Achievements

  Megan recounts her Hall of Fame induction and anecdotes from her baseball career:

  “I threw that way because I think I had a big ball when I was little... he hit it out of the ballpark.” ([34:37])

• Personal Stories and Humorous Moments

  Sabathia reminisces about a memorable play:

  “A third down, and I kind of got out of there and got a big first down...” ([61:27])

• Sportsmanship and Legacy

  Megan discusses her lifelong passion for sports and commitment to her teams:

  “I'm just a fan of everything. I'm a huge Raiders fan and I don't think that'll ever leave me.” ([40:42])

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Final Conversations and Closing Remarks

Timestamp: 43:09 – 65:13

Dan Patrick wraps up the episode with light-hearted banter, additional guest interactions, and teasers for upcoming shows.

• Farewells and Congratulations

  Dan congratulates CC Sabathia and Megan Rapinoe on their accomplishments:

  “Congrats on the great career and thanks for joining us.” ([42:24])

• Philip Rivers’ Retirement Announcement

  Highlighting Philip Rivers' decision to retire and reflect on his career:

  “Philip Rivers, NFL quarterback for 17 seasons...” ([50:30])

• Humorous Trash Talk Segment

  Engaging in playful trash talk with guests, showcasing camaraderie and sportsmanship:

  “Hey, Dan, really? You’re going to start off the interview by saying, I retired twice?” ([58:12])

• Upcoming Guests and Topics

  Teasing future interviews with Philip Rivers and CC Sabathia:

  “We'll take a break then Philip Rivers will join us.” ([43:09])

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Notable Quotes

• Justin Herbert on Improving Performance

  “I still feel like I had so much to improve and get better at.” ([03:39])

• Megan Rapinoe on Hall of Fame Speech Anxiety

  “I broke out in a full sweat. Like, oh my God. Like, this is game one of the World Series.” ([32:14])

• CC Sabathia on Playing Through Challenges

  “I felt like a real athlete... doing it as a 40-year-old all the way through my 30s.” ([56:04])

• Justin Herbert on Offensive Success

  “When we're running the ball well, I think we're going to pass the ball well too.” ([06:40])

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Conclusion

The Best of The Dan Patrick Show masterfully captures the essence of Dan Patrick's dynamic interviewing style and his ability to draw out compelling stories from high-profile athletes. By focusing on personal growth, professional challenges, and the evolving landscape of sports, this episode provides listeners with valuable insights and memorable moments. Whether you're a sports enthusiast or new to the show, this episode offers a comprehensive and entertaining experience.

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Freddy]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

Show on Fox Sports Radio hour from now. Philip Rivers, former Chargers quarterback. The current Chargers quarterback, Justin Herbert, in his sixth seat. You're in your sixth year.

[Freddy]

Wow.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Going by fast.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Take me back to your junior year. You had really good numbers at Oregon. How close were you to coming out after your junior year?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, really not that close. You know, just the way the season ended, I wanted to come back and, and make sure that we ended on the right foot. And I, I still feel like I had so much to improve and get better at. And, you know, I think that was something that we accomplished my senior year.

[Dan Patrick]

And then you played, what, 13 or 14 more games. And scouts like to have around 25 to 30 starts to be able to assess. So I think you had close to 40, 45 starts in your career. Does that sound about right?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, that sounds about right. I missed six games my sophomore year with a broken clavicle, so I feel like that was, you know, good film to put back on on tape.

[Dan Patrick]

How's the relationship with Coach Harbaugh?

[Justin Herbert]

It's awesome. You know, he's, he's an incredible coach. Everyone loves to play for him. We just want to make him proud. And, you know, he's a competitor, and I think that's the best thing about him is he just wants to win. However, you know, we go about it, that's his main focus.

[Dan Patrick]

He's a little goofy, though, at times, right? Yeah.

[Justin Herbert]

And I think that's a good thing. You know, I, I, I think, you know, to have a personality as a coach is, is, is great. He walks into team meeting rooms and, you know, it's, it's not always just football. It's, you know, it's, it's more than that. And I think the guys respect that. They appreciate that, and it makes it easier to, you know, relate to him.

[Dan Patrick]

How would you assess his throwing motion, his arm?

[Justin Herbert]

I actually haven't seen him throw a lot recently. I think he's been catching more passes and, you know, I think his arms have kind of taken a toll and. But he can still throw if he needs to.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, you're being polite here. You're, you're choosing your words carefully there.

[Justin Herbert]

I respect that, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Does he go into the weight room with you guys?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, he's in there all the time. He's lifting, he's. He's getting in the cold tubs. He does everything a player does. It's awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, he gets in the cold tub with you?

[Justin Herbert]

He does. Well, not, not like with me specifically, but.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, there's only room for one in the cold tub.

[Justin Herbert]

No, it can fit, you know, 15, 15 guys. So after practice he's in there recovering and doing everything he can to, you know, maximizes his recovery.

[Dan Patrick]

But his brother said that Jim gets in the, the ice tub in his khakis. Is that right?

[Justin Herbert]

He has before?

[Freddy]

Yes.

[Justin Herbert]

I think it's maybe a, you know, a time constraint if, if he's low.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Justin Herbert]

You know, just maximize the recovery.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. So you're not playing tonight. Are you going to have an earpiece in, headset on?

[Justin Herbert]

I think so. I think that'd be the plan. Just to be able to hear the play and, you know, talk about whatever I need to.

[Dan Patrick]

Any input?

[Justin Herbert]

No, probably not. I think more so, you know, when we're playing a game, Greg Roman and I will meet and we'll talk about, you know, the plays that I do like, what I, what I don't like. And I think that's a meeting that happens with the quarterbacks the day before, a couple of days before, just to.

[Dan Patrick]

Talk through it, help me understand the offensive philosophy. Because statistically they weren't great numbers, big numbers, but your quarterback rating was, I think, your highest. And Jim loves to run the football. So what. How would you describe the offense the. That the Chargers will have this year?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, I think for us to be successful, we have to be able to do everything. You know, I think it starts with our run game, you know, the offensive line that we've put together and being able to run the ball behind those guys. But then at the same time, you know, that's what's going to open up our play action game. And I think we had a really good play action game last year, but something continue we can continue to improve on. And then when we're running the ball well, I think we're going to pass the ball well too. And, you know, being able to scramble, extend plays on my Feet, you know, I think that's something I wasn't really able to do much of last year, but it's still a huge part of my game and something that we need to do this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday that I go back to. I think the Rose bowl where you had your legs were on display. You had, you know, great performance there that you're around the same size as Josh Allen, aren't you?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, I think. I think I might be a little lighter. He's probably a little bit stronger.

[Dan Patrick]

But can you run like he runs? Would. Would Coach Harbaugh let you have that kind of weapon?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, I think one of the things that I really respect about his game is, is how many times they run quarterback power. And, you know, he's running between the tackles and he's able to take those hits and, you know, deliver a few of them and you see how many touc touchdowns he scores in the red zone. And just the way he affects the game, too, I think that's something that we really expect. And if we can emulate that and kind of work that into my game, I think that'd be really helpful for us.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Justin Herbert, Chargers quarterback, sixth season, sixth overall pick in the 2020 draft by the Chargers. He was the offensive rookie of the year, made the Pro bowl in 2021. Give me the quarterback or quarterbacks. Like, do you sample from quarterbacks and say, maybe I could use that. I could put that into, you know, my repertoire?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, for sure. You know, especially coming out of college, that was one of those things where you watch a lot of film on the. On the NFL guys. And at the time we were watching Tom Brady, just how, you know, he did everything footwork wise was, you know, the best. We watched a lot of Matt Ryan with his, you know, play action fakes. You know, I think that was something that we always talked about, how quickly he snapped his head around, was able to get his eyes downfield, and then Drew Brees, his footwork, too, and just the way he went through progressions and played the quarterback position, I think those three guys were, you know, really important for me watching.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, explain footwork with Tom Brady. What exactly is that, and is it teachable?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, I think, you know, the easiest way to describe it would be just to time everything up with the route. You know, a short route is going to have quicker footwork and, you know, a longer route play action is. Is going to time it up. And one of the things that I always try to avoid is. Is standing still in the pocket and just, you know, balancing around because you have a tough time seeing when you're, you know, you're going up and down and, you know, as long as you're in rhythm and the.

[Freddy]

Your.

[Justin Herbert]

Your feet are aligned with how deep the receiver is going to get, you know, I think it makes it easier on the throw and definitely easier, you know, stepping up in the pocket as well.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but what's that clock like in your head when you go back to pass? At what point do you go, oh, like, I. Now I got to start. I gotta have my head on a swivel.

[Justin Herbert]

Yep. As soon as you get to the top of your drop where you're. Where you're dropping back and, you know, it's either a quick setup where you're hoping the. The ends go around you and the tackles push them up field, or you're finding a lane to run through, but it's. It's quick and, you know, that's just how. How fast those guys are on defense. And you gotta protect the ball, you gotta avoid sacks, and, you know, that's something that, you know, Coach Harbaugh talks about all the time. So we're gonna get better at that this year.

[Dan Patrick]

What was your welcome to the NFL hit?

[Justin Herbert]

I would say I was rolling out one year, tried to make this. This play where I could spin in the pocket and just kind of run around. And then I got hit by Max Froggy, and I didn't even see him. And that was when I was like, yeah, these. These guys are much faster than I am. I gotta be able to step up, throw it away. Taking a sag is not the worst thing, but, you know, running into that thing, that was.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, and, you know, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, two of the greatest ever had no problem just kind of going into the fetal position instead of, you know, you left to live to. To call another play. And that's hard for you because in college and high school, you could get away with this stuff. In the NFL, you can't. How tough is that to go just take a sack or just throw it away?

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, that's. That's the tough part, because like you said, high school and college, you'd be able to make some of those plays and, you know, you'd get reward for. For making a crazy play like that. And then you come to the N. NFL and, you know, everyone on defense is. Is faster than you. And, you know, sometimes it's okay to, you know, wave the white flag, go down and live for another play where you Know, a sack is. Is not as bad as a fumble, and a throwaway is not as bad. So it's just kind of living through that list and making sure that you're. You're protecting the ball and putting the team in a good position to win.

[Dan Patrick]

Who's your rival?

[Freddy]

Shoot.

[Justin Herbert]

I would say we've. We've got a lot of rivals. I. I definitely would say the Chiefs, Raiders, and the Broncos. I think the AFC west is. Is. You know, we've. We've definitely, you know, had our fair share of competitions with those guys. Chiefs have gotten us the past few years.

[Dan Patrick]

But do you hate the Chiefs? Like, do you hate one of them a little more than the other ones?

[Justin Herbert]

I would just say that the. It's been a little lopsided the past couple years, and that's just something that we, you know, we've got a great opportunity to play them twice this year, and, you know, we know how good they are and how much success they've had in the league over the past several years. So it's always a good opportunity for us to go play and be the team that we want to be.

[Dan Patrick]

What advice would you give a rookie quarterback? Let's say Cam Ward calls you up and said, give me some advice on what it's like.

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, I would say to sacrifice now so you can enjoy everything later. Just to go through everything and watch an extra hour of film, do an extra hour of recovery, make sure you're taking care of your body. And there's always going to be times to go hang out with your friends and do all these extracurricular activities. But right now, you're a quarterback. You know, a team, has a franchise, has put their trust in you to lead this entire organization and to make sure that you're doing everything you can for your teammates, the coaching staff, the community, because it's really important. And at the end of the day, if you're doing that, you're. You're in good steps.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, did you give me an organ organization? Did you give me a Canadian organization?

[Justin Herbert]

Organization?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it sounded like, you know, maybe. Maybe that's Canadian. You. You know, proximity there. But your organization. You gave me an organization, which is what they do in Canada. So don't want you to think too long and hard about that. Maybe if you know any Canadian roots in your family.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I don't.

[Justin Herbert]

I don't think so, now that I'm aware.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I just want to make sure it gave me a little organization. Hey, it's great to see you again, and we'll Be well, you're not going to be doing anything tonight. So I was going to say we'll be watching, but you're going to be watching too.

[Justin Herbert]

I'm going to be supporting the team. I'm going to be out there, you know, offering how, whatever I can.

[Dan Patrick]

So thanks for joining us.

[Justin Herbert]

Yeah, you bet. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Justin Herbert. Last year, regular season stats 23 and 3. 23 touchdowns, three interceptions, 3,800 yards. Like those are all really good numbers. But then you know that coach Harbaugh loves run the football. But that can make, as you know, Justin says, hey, play action. Now all of a sudden they buy into play action. I always thought it was funny when you'd see these teams that couldn't run the football but they'd run play action. And I'd be like, if I'm a defensive player, I'm going to expect you to pass all the time. Because if you want to run the ball, give it to your running back. We'll be fine with that. We can adjust. But I always thought Boomer size and might have been the best play action quarterback that I ever saw. With his ability to look like he was handing the ball off. I thought sleight of hand siason was magical. He was great. And what they'll do, you know, you want to have people watch. It's like pitchers will do this. They'll be like, watch me watch film. Tell me what you see. What am I doing? What can you tell that it's going to be that pitch. You want somebody to look at you and give you honest opinions on that. And it's the same thing with the quarterback. Look at this from a defensive backs perspective. Are you buying this with my play action? And then he's talking about footwork that I'm looking at Drew Brees footwork, I'm looking at Tom Brady's footwork. And what he's talking about is you get in the rhythm, you know, because everything's timed, you know, fractional seconds here. It's, it's, it's so, so quick and to be able to have rhythm. It's going to be a seven yard out. It's going to be something 15 over the middle. It's going to be a deeper path. So everything's got to be in rhythm. And I think that's what Tom did so well because it looked like Tom, all he did is just stand back there. But while he did all the other little things that he did. And quarterbacking is, is about stuff that you do that's on the periphery, like the subtleties of what you do and being able to do it and do it in a way that's convincing, knowing where somebody is. The eyes, you know, these defensive back talk about quarterback's eyes all the time and, you know, sort of that game within the game of. All right, I'm going to lead you over here. Lead you over here. No, I'm throwing over here. Well, the defensive back is doing the same thing. He's. Oh, I'm going to act like I'm going over here. I know you're going over here. I'm fascinated with the game within the game. Yeah.

[Freddy]

Paulie, I saw a piece just the other day about this with Joe Burrow, and they said, Joe Burrow's not a scrambler nor a runner. He's just a motion pocket guy. That's the phrase they use. Like, he moves in the pocket without leaving the pocket, but he always has his eyes downfield. He never turns his head to look at what's around him, and that keeps the play alive. But they were focused on how his head stays downfield while his feet are just shuffling.

[Dan Patrick]

Couple of phone calls in here. Chris in Vegas. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today? How's it going, DP? Hey, man.

[Freddy]

170.

[Dan Patrick]

I just wanted to go back to.

[Megan Rapinoe]

The whole quarterback situation as far as.

[Dan Patrick]

Like, not having enough starts and being younger guys. I think a lot of these guys.

[Megan Rapinoe]

That are coming in should. It's almost like it's mandatory.

[Dan Patrick]

They should sit. You know, you got guys that go.

[Megan Rapinoe]

To bad situations and then they get labeled Bus. You know, I eat Johnny Manziel or.

[Dan Patrick]

Even Baker Mayfield, and then Baker goes.

[Megan Rapinoe]

To Tampa Bay and he's super successful now.

[Dan Patrick]

So, like, I just feel like these guys need a more. A little bit more time, you know.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Let them sit, let them get there.

[Dan Patrick]

And Rogers treatment or some of these other guys that have sat and have.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Learned and didn't become successful.

[Dan Patrick]

I think that it just goes back to that.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Like, they're not getting enough knowledge of the game before they get thrown into the fire.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, let's take Johnny Manziel out of that because Johnny wasn't mature. You know, Johnny wanted to play by the seat of his pants like he did in college, and you can't do that in the pros. Baker, I thought, and he played well a couple seasons in Cleveland. I just think it started to go south when they got Odell Beckham and he wanted to placate OBJ and went out of his way to try to find him. And Jarvis Landry, to me, was a better wide receiver with the Cleveland Browns. But, you know, it happens. If you're a young quarterback and you got a guy who's six or seven year veteran wide receiver, tight end or running back, and we're like, hey, I'm open, man. And I think that's hard too, because you're in, you're in the huddle and these guys will talk to you, they'll come back and say something to you. How would you act, react to that? But they've played so much. Cam ward probably has 50 starts is college career. Jaden Daniels had over 50, like 60. Dylan Gabriel 60. I mean, that's an incredible amount of football that you've played. And, and so I have a better sense of who you are, what kind of player you are. You know, you're playing 12 or 14, you know, that's just tough. And even Justin Herbert, I thought Justin Herbert was going to be more like Josh Allen. I thought that. Because if you go back to that Rose Bowl, I think he had a couple of long touchdown runs or at least one long touchdown run. And I thought, you know, get him out, let him use his legs now, don't invite contact like Josh Allen does. But I would, I would have him out there and just give you something else to think about. Bud in South Carolina. Hi, Bud. What's on your mind today?

[Freddy]

How you doing, guys?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Good.

[Freddy]

People talking about the quarterback situations, everything like that, about Shador Sanders and everything.

[Megan Rapinoe]

But no one realized that Charlie Ward.

[Dan Patrick]

Went to Florida State, won the Heisman.

[Freddy]

Trophy and didn't even get selected in the NFL.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they thought that he was going to play basketball. And we've had Charlie on the show and I think Charlie could have been a good NFL quarterback. But it's, it's a different era now. Now we want the quarterback who will get out on the edge, the guy who can be a runner, not just a thrower. You know, let's go back to Lamar Jackson. I kept, I watched him. I go, that guy's great. The guy's great. And then it'd be, yeah, but his throwing motion. And I always look at this and go, you still have to deal with him. You know, he may not be the prototypical Dan Marino, Matthew Stafford, stand in the pocket, you're six. He's not. But he's something different. It's the ability of offensive coordinators to have an imagination to, to, to not be locked in on this is how you play football. And that's what's changed Dramatically. You know, football used to be boring. It was run, run, third down, five yards, first down, run, run, throw the ball, punt. Then it started to, you know, get a little. The AFL opened the eyes of the NFL because it was wide open. Then you bring along Dan Marino with what he did. It was just different. 5 wide, don't need a running back. And that changed football as well. You know what, what the Greatest show on Turf did, you know. So there have been some innovators, but then you still have kind of the old school that says, no, this is how my quarterback is supposed to play. It's changing. Charlie Ward was a great athlete and he was 6 3, but he did have a good NBA career. He probably, you know, had a better career in the NBA than he would had the NFL. Probably made some pretty good money. I think he's now a high school coach. Yeah, Paulie, I went back to that.

[Freddy]

93 NFL draft when Charlie Ward did not get picked. And it's all tall guys. Trent Green, Elvis Gerbach, Alex Van Pelt, Mark Brunel, Rick Meyer, Drew bledsoe, all classic 64 drop back quarterbacks. You can maybe make the case that Michael Vick broke the mold. Was that 2001 where he was so electric that he pushed his way to the number one pick where he's run first past second.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But then you had people say, well, he's not a great passer, a great pocket passer. And I always go, but look at what he, what else he does. He's putting so much pressure on a defense. I mean, when he was at Virginia Tech, it was amazing. He was amazing. Yeah.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Marvin, that was freshman Michael Vick also.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, good point, good point. But I, I, I, unless I'm wrong on that with Charlie, I think that he was going to play in the NBA. Did he get, was he a third round pick or so in the NBA? I'm trying to remember.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Feels like he was a late first round pick.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, he was a late first round pick in the NBA.

[Freddy]

Correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Right. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I, he was wonderful college quarterback. All right, let me take a break. Got more phone calls. Philip Rivers and CC Sabathia coming up in the final hour of the program. We're back after this.

[Freddy]

Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, FOX Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern.

[Dan Patrick]

But here's the thing.

[Freddy]

We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.

[Dan Patrick]

And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.

[Freddy]

Yeah, you blubberlips.

[Dan Patrick]

Blaming me.

[Freddy]

Well you know what? It's called Over Promise.

[Dan Patrick]

You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino.

[Freddy]

And Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise.

[Dan Patrick]

And also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder.

[Freddy]

It's going to be the best after.

[Dan Patrick]

Show podcast of all time. There you go, Overpromising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely join us Listen Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Dani Shapiro]

Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness the way it is echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you. Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Freddy]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players.

[Dan Patrick]

Like you're building a team from scratch.

[Freddy]

And so the succession plan of long.

[Dan Patrick]

Term success needs to be defined.

[Freddy]

We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Noah de Barrasso]

I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know, with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything, Sheesh. Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[Megan Rapinoe]

You kidding me?

[Noah de Barrasso]

Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Sarah Spain]

Get fired up, y'.

[Dan Patrick]

All.

[Sarah Spain]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe, to the show and we had a Blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance, sue, bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final and the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Foote. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dani Shapiro]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Dan Patrick]

Final hour in this Thursday, we'll talk to the former Charger. Philip Rivers finally got around to announcing his retirement. Cece Sabathia, freshly minted hall of Famer, will join us momentarily. The last women's major of the season, and it's the world's best. Testing their metal, the AIG Women's Open. That'll be coming up July 31st through August 3rd on NBC USA and streaming on Peacock, which is where you'll find this show. Good morning. If you've downloaded the app, Our phone number 877. 3DP, show. We'll get to more phone calls coming up. Update the poll results as well. He is CC Sabathia, hall of Famer now. How does that feel to be called a Hall of Famer?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Feels good. It feels good. I mean, it's, it's real now. You know what I mean? I gave the speech and had a chance to get up there and see all the guys. So it feels, it feels, feels good.

[Dan Patrick]

Your wife doesn't call you hall of Famer, does she?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Nobody in this household.

[Dan Patrick]

How nervous, how nervous were you? Compare that to pitching in a World Series when you give your hall of Fame speech.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I was pretty nervous. I mean, you know, knowing, you know, from the time that you get elected that, you know, you have six months to kind of give this speech and talk about, you know, your life and his life, achievement and who you want to thank and, you know, all these different people. So that, that gave me a lot, a lot of anxiety. But I feel like the way I delivered my speech and not trying to thank a bunch of people and Just tell stories about, you know, who, you know, helped me get to this point. I think that, you know, helped me out a lot. But I'll tell you a quick story about the World Series. You know, I would get nervous when I walked out before games or whatever. And, you know, that postseason in 09, I wasn't getting the butterflies. I was just feeling good. You know, I was feeling confident. I was feeling like I was going to pitch well. And, you know, I went out for the same thing in Philly. I went out for game one. It was in Yankee Stadium, and everything is fine. Like, I feel great. Great October night. And, you know, my routine was after we threw the ball down to second base, I would go walk the A Rod and get the ball from him, my bare hand. And I walked. Walked over to him. He tossed me the ball, and he was like, let's go. I looked at him. I was like, let's go. And I looked down at the ball, and it said 09 Fall Classic on it. And I immediately broke off. I hadn't been nervous the whole time until I looked down and realized what I was doing.

[Dan Patrick]

Like, damn, I'm in the World Series.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I kind of, like, got back into it. But, yeah, I mean, I broke out in a full sweat. Like, oh, my God. Like, this is game one of the World Series.

[Dan Patrick]

When you're at the hall of Fame, do you meet anybody who brings back bad memories?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Oh, no, not bad memories. You know, just like, I'm a. I'm a huge baseball fan. So just, you know, they had a garden party on Friday night that Jane Forbes Clark hosted. And everywhere I looked around the room, I'm seeing my favorite player. Like, I grew up playing, you know, Nintendo RBI baseball. And it's Rod Carew in there. It's. You know what I mean?

[Dan Patrick]

It's your.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Eddie Murray is. Ken Griffey Jr. Is Sandy Koufax, Randy Johnson. I mean, it's. It's everybody's favorite player in the room. And on Friday night, I'm not gonna lie, I got, like, a little imposter syndrome. I'm like, should I. I'll be in this room. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is like the. The elite of the elite. And to be part of that. That. That crew now feels good.

[Dan Patrick]

But. But there's nothing like, I gave up a home run to that guy. I hope he doesn't bring it up.

[Megan Rapinoe]

No, I mean.

[Dan Patrick]

And that's.

[Megan Rapinoe]

That's the perfect time to bring it up, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. As a Hall of Famer.

[Freddy]

Yeah.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I Gave up a couple of homers at Ichiro. You know, we always tell the story is, you know, it's fun now to be able to tell those stories in that room because, you know, you're all on the same team.

[Dan Patrick]

Couple of home runs to each hero.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Yeah, yeah, Couple of home runs.

[Freddy]

First time.

[Megan Rapinoe]

So I started throwing 2006. Me and Carl Willis were trying to figure out an out pitch, and, you know, I was throwing like, this big, loopy kind of slurp curveball thing. And we went down to the bullpen in. In Oakland, and he was like, I'm gonna teach you how to throw a cutter. So we came out of that bullpen session with, like this 82 mile an hour, 83 mile an hour slider. And me, in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, this thing is disgusting. Like, I'm taking this right into the game. So I take it into the game, get O2 on Ichiro, hit it off the window. It's first at bat. Like, you know, it's Ichi. You know what I mean? Like this. I've seen this thing move like it's nasty. So he comes up again. First pitch, I throw it to him. First pitch of that bat, he hits it out again. But they end up becoming like my out pitch. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the pitch that, you know, kind of took my career to the next level. And, you know, Ichi loved it the first time he saw it.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, it was his out pitch. He hit it out of the ballpark. Who picked out the Jordans that you wore during your speech?

[Megan Rapinoe]

It was. They were actually specially made from Jordan. They were kind of. I made a bunch of shoes my. My last year in 2019, during players weekend, and they were combined of, like a high school shoe that has some Milwaukee stuff in there, some Cleveland stuff in there. The cool part about it is I played for three teams that have navy in it. So, like, you know, the left shoe was. Was navy and gold, and that represented my Yankee, you know, Milwaukee and Cleveland. Cleveland days. And then the right one was red, which represented my high school. So, you know, I'm just forever thankful for the Jordan family. The way they treat us after retirement is special. And, you know, I wouldn't want it in any other way than going in the hall of Fame wearing a pair of Jordans and a pair of threes up on. Up on that stage.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but what was it like the first time you. I think you were the first baseball player part of the Jordan brand, or does that sound About.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Right. I was the third, so it was. Derek was the first, and then it was Andrew Jones and then me.

[Dan Patrick]

And what was it like, first time you met Michael?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Oh, it was incredible. You know, he, he's. You got to be confident when you around mj, right? Because he's, he's the, he's, like I said, talked about earlier, is everybody's favorite player. He's, he's the alpha of all alphas. So you gotta, you know, you gotta be confident when you're around him. But I, but I enjoy spending time with him.

[Dan Patrick]

CC Sabathia, the newly inducted member of the Baseball hall of Fame. You know, you did all these things with the Yankees, but it feels like people still bring up what happened, like the last two months when you're with Milwaukee, where they were like three days rest. Cece, go out there and get them. And you had an incredible. You knew that you were, you were leaving Milwaukee. They knew you were leaving, but they worked your ass off. And, you know, I, I still look back on that. I mean, that's an amazing run. What, what were your thoughts when they kept sending you out? And it felt like on three days rest.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Well, it wasn't, it wasn't so much them. They were, you know, they were kind of freaking out just along with everybody else. My agent, you know, everybody except for kind of me and my wife. Like, I, I told her, you know, how I felt. And the biggest thing was, you know, I had got traded from, from Cleveland, and I, you know, I have been in organizations from time. I was 17 and that summer I was, you know, 28 years old. I've been there for, you know, ten and a half years. And, you know, when I walk into the clubhouse in Milwaukee, you know, I was scared to death. I didn't know what was going to happen. I had never been in another organization. And I walk in and my best friend Dave Risky is there. I play with him in Cleveland. And then Mike Cameron is there and Billy hall is there and Prince Fielder is there. And, you know, these are still some of my closest friends to this day. All those guys I just named were in Cooperstown, you know what I'm saying? So it, I just didn't want that season to end. And I felt great. And I felt like I was going to go out and win those games. And it was more so about me going in there and telling them I'll pitch on three days rest than it was them, you know, asking me or, okay, even wanting me to do was more me. So one thing is, is you know, during that time, I never in my career felt like I was going to, you know, knew that I was going to win games. And during that time, I felt like, you know, if you give me the ball, I can go out and complete a game to win the game. So I wanted to get that. That franchise in that. In that city, into the playoffs. And I think it was more about me, you know, telling them that what I was doing more so than. Than them, you know, kind of. Kind of asking or demanding.

[Dan Patrick]

The car breaking down en route to Cooperstown. That's what, a three and a half hour drive that took eight hours or so to get there?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Yeah, three and a half hour drive normally. And for some reason, you know, normally when we go on a road trip, me and my wife, we drive all over Martha's Vineyard, Hamptons, whatever. If we're on a road trip, she drives so slow that I'm usually like, I'll meet her at the house and I'm there by, you know, an hour before, for some reason on that day, I was riding behind her. And, you know, we were just, you know, kind of making our way up there, and we had the kids with us. And we pull up on the side of the road on 17 to get on the on ramp. And she stopped. She's got. Let a bunch of cars go by. And I saw, I called her, I'm like, what's going on? And she was like, my car just stopped. And I'm like, what? And I could tell in her voice that she was really irritated and, you know, on the verge of kind of, you know, not breaking down, but kind of crashing out. And my kids and I can't take anything seriously. So we all get out of the car. Kids start making tick tocks. I'm taking pictures on the side of the road. She's very serious in the back, calling, calling the tow truck. But, like, people started noticing, noticing us on the side of the road. They're honking, we're laughing.

[Freddy]

It.

[Megan Rapinoe]

It made for a good time. And, you know, I feel like we. We know every time that we're all together, my wife and I and the four kids, and we're traveling, we're gonna. Something's gonna happen. So, you know, we're used to it.

[Freddy]

And.

[Megan Rapinoe]

And we always make the best out of it, but makes for a good story.

[Dan Patrick]

Who gave you the Oakland Raider helmet behind you?

[Megan Rapinoe]

This is a. This is actually a phone. My cousin, Demetrius Davis was Mr. Irrelevant, I think it was in 1990. And he got all these different gifts from, you Know from every team you get a gift. And this was the, the phone from the, from the Raiders.

[Dan Patrick]

So that was on the draft. That was on their table.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Must have been on the draft. Yeah, this must have been on, on the draft table. So you know, you get, he was Mr.

[Dan Patrick]

Relevant.

[Megan Rapinoe]

You get a bunch of different trophies and stuff. And this is the one thing that I kept. And I got this Marcus Allen Super Bowl, super bowl helmet right here that I always keep up. And you see my Raiders clock that just went down. But I always have to have something Raiders around.

[Dan Patrick]

It seems like you're a football guy more than a baseball guy.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I'm just a fan of everything. I'm a huge, huge, huge sports fan. But the Raiders are, I'm die hard Raiders. Like I don't waver at all. If you, you watch me with my basketball, I'm usually picking the best team just because I'm always in a bad mood after football season. So I got to pick basketball season. The warriors aren't in it. I'm always going for a winner. But yeah, I mean, I'm just a, a huge Raiders fan and I don't think that'll ever, ever leave me.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, what do you think's going to happen this year?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Hopefully if, if, if, if we can stay healthy. I mean, the defense is really good. You know, I love Brock Bowers. I would love to see what Geno Smith is going to do for us, but I think if we can stay healthy, we'll be okay. I mean, obviously we're in, in that division with, with Mahomes and, you know, the Chiefs and I think Justin Herbert is great. I even think Bo Nixon and the Broncos are going to be good. So it's going to be a tough division, but we'll see what happens.

[Dan Patrick]

If you could have Geno Smith as your quarterback or Tom Brady comes out of retirement.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Oh, I would want Tom Brady to come out of retirement to like run the organization. I need, I need somebody young, young with fresh legs. I mean, I'm fine with Gino being quarterback as long as he can stay healthy, but I want Tom to like really be hands on and be running like the football ops.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's probably going to happen sooner than later.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I would love that. I would love that.

[Dan Patrick]

Congrats. You're always a great guest. We appreciate it. Congrats on the great career and thanks for joining us.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Dan Patrick]

That's CC Sabathia, just got inducted into the Baseball hall of Fame. There's nothing better that I want to hear than when somebody says, got a quick story to tell you. When he tells me about the World Series, when he looks at the baseball and it says the 2009 World Series and it's printed on the baseball and the fact that it hit him that he's now pitching in the World Series, that's what you want. I love when I get stories from these guys. Philip Rivers, he better be telling stories. Fritzi, he's ready. Oh, he is. Okay. All right. We'll take a break then Philip Rivers will join us. And I know we're backed up with phone calls. We'll try to sneak those in as well. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

[Freddy]

Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Life's messy.

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[Dani Shapiro]

Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you. Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Freddy]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players.

[Dan Patrick]

Like you're building a team from scratch.

[Freddy]

And so the succession plan of long.

[Dan Patrick]

Term success needs to be defined.

[Freddy]

We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Spain]

Get fired up, y'.

[Dan Patrick]

All.

[Sarah Spain]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance, Sue, Bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Foote. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dani Shapiro]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Noah de Barrasso]

I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know, with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you, it's not the news, it's what the News should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything.

[Dan Patrick]

Sheesh.

[Noah de Barrasso]

Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[Megan Rapinoe]

You kidding me?

[Noah de Barrasso]

Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Waiting for Philip Rivers to join us. Just announced his retirement. Then he stopped playing, like five years ago. Maybe this is his second time announcing that he's retiring, but he'll join us coming up. I saw this story that Michael Phelps, the great Olympian, is going to give the Ravens players swim lessons. And I wasn't sure exactly what this was, but. But if it truly is Michael Phelps, who is a Ravens fan, is going to give the players swim lessons, I think it's great. Because here's something that, at least this is how I looked into it. I read into it. There's a lot of African American players who probably didn't get swim lessons, didn't have a pool that was accessible to them. And here you have Michael Phelps. So now you can get swim lessons. You're in your 20s or 30s, and, you know, you're probably embarrassed to say that, you know, hey, maybe I could get swim lesson. Now you can do it, and Michael Phelps is going to help you. So I think it's a wonderful gesture. And I don't know, Marvin, if you read into it that same way, but, but I did that. In the African American community, you, you didn't have or don't have accessibility to pools and to learn how to swim.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Yeah, for me, I didn't, I didn't think about that until you said it. And it makes perfect sense because the previous generation that's, you know, they're 40, 50 years old, they didn't know how to swim because their parents weren't allowed to go in pools and things like that. Not to go to a deeper topic, but that's, it's pretty much generational because you learn how to swim from your parents, and a lot of them, their parents didn't know how to swim. And so I think that goes a long way from what you said.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, the team has a new pool, and I guess there's a lot of players that are going to take Michael Phelps up on the opportunity to learn how to swim. He's Philip Rivers. He played in the NFL for 17 seasons and now a high school coach. Look at there. You look good. You look like you're ready to play.

[Freddy]

What do you say, Dan?

[Dan Patrick]

Could you play right now?

[Freddy]

Oh yeah. I'm a little heavier than I was, but I could get through a game now. I may need a wheelchair the next morning, but. Oh yeah, I could still. I could still. I can still play a little bit.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Did you need to announce like did you retire twice?

[Freddy]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Here.

[Freddy]

Well, yeah, I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. The reason there was a little bit of a wait is I honestly wasn't. I. There were a couple November decembers there in 2021, 2022 where I was getting. I was staying ready. I was, I was. I threw on shoulder pads a few times and a helmet and was throwing in the yard and, and working just in case and there were a few things that kind of got close. But then the last two years is pretty much. I've known I've been done it really just timed. I wanted to retire a charger and do it, do it right with the Chargers over 16 years. Gates coming up with the hall of Fame, one of my favorite all time teammates and locker mate side by side for 16 years. I was doing some stuff, some video stuff for him and I was like, hey guys, when are we going to do this? I want to retire a charger. Should we do something on video? And it's.

[Dan Patrick]

It.

[Freddy]

It just all worked out.

[Dan Patrick]

What team or teams called you.

[Freddy]

I knew you were going there. I guess I teed you up for that one. Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

You can say it now.

[Freddy]

No, I know it doesn't matter. Yeah, well, I think, you know, it was the year that the 49ers had the injuries at quarterback, you know, and before, early on, before Purdy really got going, you know, it was. There's still probably six weeks left in the year and it was. So there's a little interaction I've had there with, with John Lynch. Certainly kept in contact with the Colts that first year, year or so out when the Saints had the injuries, you know, I think they called Drew and I both. I remember being on a phone call with Drew and it was over Christmas and it was like the first Christmas I'd been on, you know, been off and not playing and, and I was like, I can't believe I'm even considering this. But Drew and I ended up talking about hey, were you serious? And he was asking me if I was serious. And I was like, it sounds good. You know, it Sounds good in theory, but then it's like, man, I felt like the later the season went, I was going to become a guest quarterback. And to me that just was what ultimately, ultimately the teams didn't want me. It didn't get that far to where it was in my control, but I didn't want to be a guest quarterback. You know, you wanted to at least have some camaraderie and, and some sense of, man, I've been in this, on this journey with you guys at least for half a season. But when he got to the playoffs, it's like, man, you're going to go and play one game and you're either the hero to help them win or you came in and cost him a playoff game. So it just didn't make a whole lot of sense.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you could have been a Joe Flacco.

[Freddy]

Yeah, yeah. Which, shoot, I thought it was awesome. I was, I loved watching Joe and pulling for Joe when he was in that situation.

[Dan Patrick]

But take me back to when you came out of college. I remember the knock on you was your arm, your arm angle or how you like how you threw. Like it felt like that was one of those, you, you just didn't throw it the way quarterbacks, the other quarterbacks threw the ball. Is that correct?

[Freddy]

Yeah, yeah, no, it is. I think it gradually got less and less awkward, you know, as, even as my career went, there is a uniqueness to it. And I shoot, I appreciate that now, you know, I hear you hear people say, oh man, that's how Philip Rivers threw the ball. So I guess uniqueness to it, that's end up being kind of one of my trademarks. But growing up as the son of a coach, I was the ball bo water boy when my dad was coaching high school ball, five, six, seven years old and I was throwing a regulation size football. So that's the only way I could throw it. You know, you kind of laid it in your hand and, and, and, and pushed it. And so then as I grew up, you know, as I got bigger and stronger and my hand could reach, there was still an element of that, you know, muscle memory motion that just became my own. And, and so that's where it was. I remember Norm Chow, you know, we had, we had one of the great offensive coaches of all time in college football at NC State my freshman year. And the first day he watched me practice, he, he asked me if I was hurt. Is your shoulder, is your shoulder, is your shoulder bothering you? And I said, no, my shoulder's fine. And he sent the tape off to Mike Holmgren and said, hey, you need to take a look at this. And, and, and, and Coach Chow ended up telling me, Holmgren said if he's not getting balls batted down and he's accurate, he said, heck with it, leave it alone. And so we did.

[Megan Rapinoe]

We did.

[Dan Patrick]

How is the position changed? Like, what's the most important part of playing the position?

[Freddy]

I still think, and I am biased, I guess a little bit. I bet if you asked most pocket pastors like myself, they may say this, may not. I still think you got to be able to stand in the pocket and make quick decisions and be accurate with the football and throw it from the pocket on third and eight in crucial situations on a two minute drive. All those things that, that is still going to be a necessity of playing the position. Position. To me, I think it's a bonus. It's a bonus if you can do the other stuff like many of these guys nowadays can. You know, the, the Josh Allens and Lamar Jackson's and Bo Nix has the ability to run. You know, as you know, had an unbelievable rookie year. Obviously Mahomes and I'm leaving guys out unintentionally, but if you can do those things, it helps you. But you still got to be able to stand in there and make a throw and take a hit right under the chin. Because if you can't do that, if all you can do is just kind of run around and you're a 50% passer, I don't think you can last.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Philip Rivers, NFL quarterback for 17 seasons. Fan base that probably disliked you the most was which fan base?

[Freddy]

Probably Denver.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, let me. Can I bring in. Fritzi is a Denver Bronco fan and he all my guests. So Fritzi would always complain that you complained too much, that you wind too much when you play. This coming from a Bronco fan, would you say that's fair assessment of you? You were critical. Philip Rivers whining. Yes, and I hope Philip agrees.

[Freddy]

And I got nothing against the guy, but being a huge Bronco fan Since I'm like 7 years old, I did.

[Dan Patrick]

See like there was a lot of complaining to the officials, a lot of trash talking. Even though he didn't curse, he, he.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Was always kind, I guess with his trash talk.

[Dan Patrick]

But there seemed like a lot of whining was going on. Okay, Phil.

[Freddy]

Yeah, I can see it. I can see it coming across as whiny. It was more a fire and passion and drive to want to win the stinking game. The call to be right and for the, you know, all those things to go. So, yes. Would it be classified as whining in some cases? I'm sure, I'm sure it would. I'm not proud of every, every moment. Believe me. There's some, many that I look at and I go, man, I lost my mind. What was I doing? But there's a lot of it that I laugh at and then there's a lot of it that I go, man, I hope people realize how much I love playing. I love playing just like I was as a kid in the backyard. And I got to do it as a, you know, 40 year old all the way through my 30s, 250 times. And that was, it was truly just how you would be in the backyard, you know, playing with your buddies or brothers and arguing and carrying on and talking smack and all those things.

[Dan Patrick]

But you did it in a polite way. Like, how do you talk trash in a polite way?

[Freddy]

Yeah, I don't know if it's necessarily polite. I think sometimes maybe that's what made it sting a little worse. It wasn't the four letter words.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, wait, how would you talk trash to me if I'm a defensive player? I just sacked you and I got something to say to you.

[Freddy]

Oh, I don't. I mean, I was going to say, Dan, I, I could better do it with you and your role there. I'd be like, dan, really? You're going to start off the interview at saying, I retired twice? I mean, come on, I haven't talked to you in five years.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, hey, will you stop whining?

[Freddy]

I didn't retire twice, Dan. Ask me something else. How long are you going to do this, Dan?

[Dan Patrick]

How long? How are the kids? What are there 10 kids now?

[Freddy]

Yeah, there's, there's 10. And I got a little grandson. I got a little grandson. My oldest two daughters are married and my oldest daughter and her husband have a little, little boy that's almost a year old. So that's a blast. And then, shoot. The other children are growing up fast, so I'll have three that are out of the house or high school or beyond this year and then still seven at home. Three boys, seven girls and three boys, but they're growing up fast, man. My oldest son will be the quarterback again this year at the high school. He's a junior and he's gonna have a chance. He's going to have a chance to play at the next level, which is exciting. I was going to say too. Back to the throwing motion thing. It. I threw that way Because I think I had a ball, you know, a big ball when I was little. He throws that way a little bit. I don't know if it's just from watching me or if it's just in our DNA, but he's a little more over the top. But when people watch him throw, they go, man, he throws it like you. And I go, well, he did watch me play for his whole life growing up.

[Dan Patrick]

Why didn't you teach him how to throw like Brady?

[Freddy]

Brady's a little too over the top, you know. What's over the top?

[Dan Patrick]

What about Aaron Rodgers?

[Freddy]

I like Aaron Rodgers. Motion. He flicks it. He can throw it every different way. Mahomes kind of can throw at every different arm angle. I was kidding about Brady being too over the top. But, but, but I think the different arm angles is huge, Is key, you know, it's key to be able to do that because you're throwing it. People think, you know, to me, the height thing is not as big of a deal. You know, Drew Brees, one of the best ever. Six, you know, six foot or so. But is, is. It's not as much a height deal as ability to throw arm angles. None of us are throwing over six, six linemen, you know, none of us are. So you got to be able to throw around and change different arm angles as the pocket, you know, collapses on your changes.

[Dan Patrick]

Philip is the head coach at St. Michael Catholic High School in Fairhope, Alabama. How would you assess the Chargers this upcoming season with Jim Harbaugh?

[Freddy]

I'm interested to see them. You know, they made some, made some additions in the off season. You know, they, they got a lot of good young offensive linemen, obviously. Derwin James still kind of the captain over there on that defensive side. And Justin Herbert is, you know, a heck of a player. A heck of a player. They, they, they, they, they nailed, they nailed that pick. It was the timing of me to move on and then to get one. They got a good one. They got a good one. So excited to see, to see them this year. Certainly. I still pull for the Chargers. I pull for the Colts one year there. But then also one of my closest coach friends, Shane Steichen is the head coach there. And then I pull for the Eagles, Sirianni being there. Coach Sirianni was. I was with him a long time with the Chargers as well. So you find yourself pulling for either coaches you were with or teammates, you know, that are either at the, at the, at the team you were on, or either they're somewhere else. You pull for them on Sundays. And we still watch. We still watch, watch all day. We go to mass on Sunday morning and we have games on every TV we can find.

[Dan Patrick]

Your longest career run, long career run.

[Freddy]

I probably. I don't know. I know y' all got the stats in there. Fritzi, what is it, 11 yards?

[Dan Patrick]

You know, it's 18.

[Freddy]

18. 18 yard run. My favorite run was against the Ravens in the playoff. Divisional round playoff game. A third down, and I kind of got out of there and got a big first down and was able to kind of do the first down sign, you know, that you see all the wide outs and backs get to do. I felt. I felt like a real. I felt like a real athlete. Felt like a real athlete, my teammates. Keenan Allen, he was miked up on that play and you can hear him saying, do it, do it, do it. You know, he was like. He was like, proud of me. Like I was actually gonna, like, do.

[Dan Patrick]

A little something like a parent watching their kid take their first step. Yep. Yeah. But was there somebody slower than you in the NFL at quarterback?

[Freddy]

I believe I could outrun Peyton and Brady.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah, but that still makes you slow.

[Freddy]

Oh, it does. I definitely, definitely wasn't fast. Roethlisberger, Ben could run a little better than me, maybe, as we got, you know, as he got later in his career, maybe. But no, Ben could run. See, Ben. Ben was one of those, you know, throwback quarterbacks that could run, you know, and he wasn't going to run for 70, but he had a. He had an ability. Capability in the pocket that was. That was unique. I think that certainly helped his. His game and why he had a lot of success.

[Dan Patrick]

If Michael Vick and you ran a 40 yard dash.

[Freddy]

That may be one of the fastest men I've ever seen on a football field. We were at The Falcons in 2005. I believe it was four or five. I wasn't playing. Drew was the starter. I was backing up and he scrambled left down our sideline and scored and scored with it and ran through the tunnel. And I just remember going, that's. That's just not fair. That's not fair that he can run like that and throw.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Let me know if you retire again. We'll have you back on, but if not, good luck with the upcoming high school season.

[Freddy]

I appreciate it, Dan. And hey, Fritz, you said I. I probably did complain and whine, but what made you so mad is we were beating their tail a lot of times. That's fair.

[Megan Rapinoe]

That's part of the reason why I was Upset with. You beat the Broncos too much.

[Freddy]

There's smack talk right there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Take that, Todd. Yeah, that's smack talk. Very impressive. Thank you. Thank you, Philip.

[Freddy]

Appreciate you guys. Thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Philip Rivers that's talking trash.

[Megan Rapinoe]

That's so good.

[Dan Patrick]

Take that. Oh, Todd, your face when I brought you in.

[Megan Rapinoe]

What are you doing?

[Dan Patrick]

I know you said you weren't going to do it. You're like, I never said that I loved. You bring up Philip Rivers whining all the time.

[Megan Rapinoe]

True.

[Dan Patrick]

And he has a good point because a lot of times he would kick the Broncos butts and that makes you frustrated and angry. Yes. Paulie.

[Freddy]

This just into the I team. Philip Rivers career versus the Broncos 13 16.

[Dan Patrick]

That was your. You could have returned. I didn't.

[Megan Rapinoe]

I should have done a little research.

[Dan Patrick]

While he was doing his kind trash talk today.

[Freddy]

Under 500 against Denver.

[Dan Patrick]

But imagine if somebody is going to trash talk you. But they don't curse, you know, like it would. It would sound weird. Like, dad gummet. You. You're gonna get it. I. We're gonna score on you. G Willikers rap. You grabbed my face mask. How'd you miss that?

[Megan Rapinoe]

Kicking your tails?

[Freddy]

Oh, golly gee. How did you not call it?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, crying out loud. It's. It's kind of like that scene in Back to the Future when Michael J. Fox's dad is yelling at Biff. Hey, you, Biff. You get your hands off her, you know?

[Freddy]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Freddy]

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[Freddy]

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[Dan Patrick]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Dan Patrick]

All.

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