The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Best Of – August 27, 2025

Overview

This episode of "The Best of The Dan Patrick Show" blends classic DP banter, humorous takes on sports headlines, and interviews with Nick Wright (Host of “First Things First,” Fox Sports 1) and Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel. The main threads throughout the show include high-profile sports relationships (Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift’s engagement), NFL coaching hot seats, playoff pressures, quarterback evaluations, and what makes a team or coach thrive—or struggle—under the spotlight.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift Engagement + The Wedding Cake Bet

Time: 02:37–16:59

• Dan's Love for Love, and the Bet

  • Dan Patrick celebrates the official engagement of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift and revisits his famous wager with show regular Todd Fritz (“Fritzi”): if they became engaged, Dan would hit Fritzi with a wedding cake.
  • The crew struggles to remember the exact terms of the original bet: was it “engaged” or “married,” and when exactly did Dan utter it? Listeners are recruited to help find the audio proof.
  • Lighthearted debate ensues about semantics in bets and whether Fritzi should have to take the cake.

  Notable Quotes:

  • Dan: “Nobody loves love quite like I do. ...I made a bet with Fritzi that when they got engaged, I would hit him with a wedding cake in the face. But we can't find the day that I said that.” [02:37]
  • Nick Wright: “I remember you and Fritzi having a bet, just like you said, but I don't remember the language of the bet. Was it engaged or married? Those are two different things.” [04:20]

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2. NFL Coaching Hot Seat: Who Must Win to Survive?

Time: 06:49–16:14, 23:27–26:49

• Poll Questions:

  • Is Travis Kelce more likely to retire now that he's engaged?
  • Which NFL coach needs to win a playoff game or risk losing their job?

• Candidates Discussed:

  • Mike McDaniel (Dolphins): Seen as having to make the playoffs or win a game.
  • Brian Daboll (Giants): Needs improvement to retain his position.
  • Mike Tomlin (Steelers): A rare case of organizational loyalty, but playoff wins expected.
  • Zach Taylor (Bengals): “Can only live off the fumes of going to a Super Bowl for so long.”
  • Kevin Stefanski (Browns), Shane Steichen (Colts), Sean McDermott (Bills), Dan Campbell (Lions): Each coach's unique pressures and what could buy them more time or get them fired.

  Notable Quotes:

  • Dan: “I would probably say Brian Dable because I don't think they're going to be that good soon enough for him to hold on to that job.” [07:36]
  • Nick Wright: “There are guys who are trying to build something is one category, and then other coaches who are wasting an opportunity.” [09:50]

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3. NFL Playoff Pressure Rankings

Time: 12:22–13:59, 23:27–25:41

• “Super Bowl or Bust” Coaches:

  • Sean McDermott – Bills’ regular season success isn’t enough; fans want a Super Bowl.
  • Dan Campbell – Lions need to finally break through after high expectations.

• Fan Expectations & Organizational Patience:

  • Dan Patrick and Nick Wright analyze which teams/coaches require deep playoff runs to assuage fan bases and owners.

  Notable Quotes:

  • Dan: “Buffalo Bills need to go to the title game for sure. For at least. At least. I think. Okay, more pressure. Dan Campbell or Sean McDermott?” [12:33]
  • Nick Wright: “Tomlin's better off missing the playoffs and breaking a streak than making the playoffs and losing in round one, which is maybe not fair, but I think that's reality.” [25:03]

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4. Chiefs, NFL Contenders, and Ranking Quarterbacks

Time: 30:45–35:53

• Are the Chiefs Overlooked?

  • Nick Wright adamantly argues that the Kansas City Chiefs remain the team to beat despite off-season media narratives suggesting otherwise.
  • Discusses sports media hypocrisy about which teams need to make blockbuster trades.
  • “How do the Chiefs not make the Super Bowl?” Only a catastrophic event or “act of God,” says Nick.

• Quarterback Talk

  • Dan and Nick debate quarterback rankings, valuing postseason performance over regular season stats.
  • Jalen Hurts vs. Lamar Jackson vs. Josh Allen — who do you want in the clutch?

  Notable Quotes:

  • Nick Wright: “Everyone is saying simultaneously...Ravens and Bills are the class of the AFC. The Ravens and Bills need to trade for Micah Parsons to get over the hump. What's the hump, America? Who are we talking about here?” [32:21]
  • Dan: “I think if you ranked playoff quarterbacks, that to me has more value now. We won't do that. But, but I would put the guys who have actually done this, the guys who have produced, when your team needs you...” [34:09]

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5. Surprise Pick: Bucs for the NFC?

Time: 35:53–37:19

• Nick Wright’s Bold Prediction:

  • Exclusive for the Dan Patrick Show: Nick is leaning toward the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as his pick for the NFC’s representative in the Super Bowl, citing schedule, offensive strengths, and historical trends in the NFC East.

  Notable Quotes:

  • Nick Wright: “The Tampa Bay Buccaneers...lot of stuff to like...If you don’t have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes [in the last 25 years], you win the Super Bowl, half the teams—more than half—don’t win a playoff game the next year." [36:31]

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6. Sports Documentaries, Life as a Fan, and Banter

Time: 37:26–40:40

• Nick admits not having seen either the new Cowboys or the Chiefs documentaries, joking about watching sports instead of vacationing.

• Playful ribbing between Dan and Nick over who dresses better for TV, and which of them has handed out more Super Bowl trophies.

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7. Interview: Dolphins Head Coach Mike McDaniel

Time: 45:56–59:16

• On Coaching Journey & Perspective

  • McDaniel recalls his winding path from Yale receiver to NFL head coach, stressing adaptability in coaching systems to suit player strengths, referencing the RG3 era in Washington and influence of the Shanahan coaching tree.

• Player Evaluation

  • Ranks Tua Tagovailoa as “probably the most talented quarterback” he’s worked with, crediting also Matt Ryan, RG3, and Matt Schaub for unique QB skills.

• Handling Pressure

  • Acknowledges external pressure but explains how he keeps it in perspective and maintains work-life balance, especially after becoming a father.

• Fun Background:

  • Shares the story of how seeking Bronco autographs as a child led to his mother meeting his future stepfather, an assistant video guy with the Broncos—thus setting McDaniel on an NFL path.

• On Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift

  • Learns of the engagement live on air and playfully claims ignorance, reflecting on “love-based relationships.”

  Notable Quotes:

  • Mike McDaniel: “The whole tree underneath Kyle Shanahan learned that in 2012 when we had a rookie RG3...We completely adapted...All these people firsthand where we had our offense...and then retooled it in Washington.” [49:36]
  • On Tua: “I think Tua is probably the, the most talented quarterback...[but] The most talented speed threat was probably Robert Griffin III.” [51:15]
  • On pop culture: “You keep yourself from anything that’s multimedia, and then you make yourself a terrible conversation when people bring up pop culture.” [57:41]

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Notable Quotes, One-Liners, and Moments

• “Nobody loves love quite like I do.” – Dan Patrick [02:37]
• “You can't spell Todd without odd.” – Dan Patrick [17:14]
• On Travis & Taylor: “Now they're getting married...what is America’s greatest love story.” – Nick Wright [25:48]
• Nick Wright’s high school theory: “If you’re Taylor Swift...the only thing...you didn’t get to have that type of high school experience. ...What initially drew her to Travis was, I get to have it now—I’m dating the star football player.” [28:37]
• On the Bucs pick: “That is gonna...that is viral bonanza. This guy. Nobody’s had that.” – Nick Wright [36:37]
• “My expectation is that nobody wants to hang out with me ever...that I’m the boss of.” – Mike McDaniel, on whether players invite their head coach to weddings [58:35]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening & Kelsey/Swift Wedding Cake Bet: 02:37–16:59
• NFL Coaching Hot Seat & Playoff Pressures: 06:49–16:14, 23:27–26:49
• Interview: Nick Wright (coaching, Chiefs, Bucs, Taylor & Travis): 23:27–40:40
• Interview: Mike McDaniel (coaching journey, Tua, RG3, personal anecdotes): 45:56–59:16

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Tone & Style

The episode is classic Dan Patrick Show: witty, self-aware, a touch irreverent, and deeply conversational. There’s a blend of sports knowledge, cultural references, running gags, and nerdy “inside sports” banter. The humor comes from camaraderie as much as snark, with affectionate jabs exchanged between hosts, producers, and guests.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This “Best Of” is a breezy, ping-ponging trip through the week’s major NFL stories, pop culture crossovers, and the realities behind coaching in the NFL. Whether you’re here for the inside scoop, bold predictions, or just a laugh about wedding cake and head coaches’ party invitations—there’s something for every fan.

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Transcript

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[John Lithgow]

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[Nick Wright]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox sports radio. It's our one on this Wednesday. Dan and the Dan It's Dan Patrick show. And nobody loves love quite like I do. But I do need the audience's help because it was a while ago where I think there were some skeptics in this room about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Was it true love? Was it a marketing ploy? Was it a hoax? Was, you know, were they in on the joke? Were they truly in love? And nobody that loves love the way I do. And I said, no, they're in love. And I made a bet with Fritzi that when they got engaged that I would hit him with a wedding cake in the face. But we can't find the day that I said that. If an audience member either on social media or you call in and you can help us locate that, Because I can't go through with the bet until we find the audio that says that I was going to hit Todd in the face with the cake if they got engaged, which they did yesterday. Actually, they got engaged two weeks ago, according to Travis's dad. Yes, Todd, I do want to say for the record, that I, too, love love, But I thought it was going.

[Mike McDaniel]

To be one of those celebrity Oprah.

[John Lithgow]

Steadman kind of things where a lot of celebrity couples, they don't actually go down the aisle. They get engaged, and they just kind of stay as partners. Not that this wasn't a real thing. I didn't. I don't think I ever said it was a publicity stunt that they were together, but it was more of a. I just didn't see them getting married anytime in the coming years.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you have to know what you're looking for when you see love. And that's the problem. You don't see that.

[John Lithgow]

To me, I look past it.

[Dan Patrick]

It was obvious to me. It was obvious.

[Nick Wright]

You were right on it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I was. Yes. Paul.

[Nick Wright]

Dan. I'm Mr. Semantics. You know, with any type of bet. I'm curious. I remember you and Fritzi having a.

[Mike McDaniel]

Bet, just like you said.

[Nick Wright]

But I don't remember the language of the bet. Was it engaged or married? Those are two different things. And if Fritz, he wants to get out of the bet, that would be a wiggle room. But we are looking for it actively.

[Dan Patrick]

But you have to get engaged, though. Yeah. Before you get there.

[Mike McDaniel]

But like a catch.

[Nick Wright]

You have to complete the process.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, fair enough. Well, they're officially engaged. The biggest power couple in America made it official yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. My round of applause. I love it. I love it. So the thing I thought, well, a couple of things I thought of. First of all, I, I get to hit Todd with a wedding cake. But, but also, is this the last year for Travis Kelsey? It sounds like he's got a, you know, very popular podcast with his brother. He can do a lot of different things. He's going to have a variety of NFL shows to work on if he wants to, but it'll be more than that. He'll be involved in more than just that. He's 35 and coming off his least productive season since 2014. You got three Super bowl rings, 10 Pro Bowls, and you're one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. And no matter what comes next, Kelsey, maybe you chase one more title and that would be this year. And then he probably steps away. But on and off the field, Travis Kelsey has already won. Good morning those watching on Peacock. Thank you downloading the app, those listening on radio around the country, around the world, we say good morning as well. Fritzy Seaton, Marv Polygyr is truly the backroom guys as well. On this Wednesday full question play of the day, stat of the day, all that forthcoming college football come on down, take center stage starting Thursday night and goes all the way to Monday night. And then we get ready for the NFL. We'll run down some of the interesting point spreads for these games coming up this weekend as well. 877-3DP Show Email Address DP danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. First hour brought to you by the Pros Express employment professionals. You can quit online job searches. You can enlist. The Pros Express never charges you a fee. To find a job, go to expresspros.com all right, Seaton, what's the poll question for the first hour of this award nominated program?

[Nick Wright]

Well, I think we're going to start with two. Is Travis Kelsey more likely to retire.

[Dan Patrick]

Now that he's engaged?

[Nick Wright]

You just brought that to our attention.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going to start with that. All right.

[Nick Wright]

We were also kicking this around just a little earlier.

[Dan Patrick]

The NFL coach that needs to win.

[Nick Wright]

A playoff game this season.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Or else. All right. Dolphin said coach Mike McDaniel would be on the program.

[Nick Wright]

Oh, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he'll be on the program. Final hour.

[Nick Wright]

Little pause between those two topics.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my bad, my bad. Should have let it breathe a little bit there. He's the odds on favorite right now according to Vegas to lose his job or the first to lose his job. Yes. Seaton.

[Nick Wright]

See, I would. I would put it between him and Brian Dable.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I would too. That he.

[Nick Wright]

That's a fella right there that needs to win a game.

[Dan Patrick]

I would probably say Brian Dable because I don't think they're going to be that good soon enough for him to hold on to that job. Unless he's already been told you're coaching next year. Mike McDaniel feels like you're on the clock. You have to make the playoffs. You might have to win a playoff game. Yeah. Paulie.

[Nick Wright]

Two years ago, under Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins had the second ranked scoring offense in the league. They were 11 and 6 and they were cruising. Last year, a Little banged up, 8 and 9. Their offense went down to 22nd in the league. You definitely get a hall pass, but.

[Dan Patrick]

It'S got to improve.

[Nick Wright]

It's got to go back to 20, 23.

[Dan Patrick]

I think you got to make the playoffs. Got to make the playoffs. Yes.

[John Lithgow]

Todd, where should Mike Tomlin be on that list? Or is it all up to Aaron.

[Dan Patrick]

Rodgers and how he performs?

[John Lithgow]

Does he get another pass? I know the Steeles aren't quick to fire coaches in their history, but at.

[Dan Patrick]

Some point I don't know what the odds are with Tomlin because that they don't fire coaches in Pittsburgh. But the fan base is fired up of let's get into the playoffs and actually win a playoff game. And it. But for me, this, and I don't have any information, for me, it feels like this could be Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers last year. Now, Rogers hasn't ruled out playing again and running it back, but you know, after a while, you know, your voice gets a little stale and as great as Mike Tomlin is and he's going to be a Hall of Fame coach, maybe there's something else out there, maybe TV that he would be an analyst there. Yeah. See, I think when we're looking at a conversation like this or a topic.

[Nick Wright]

Like this, I think that there's different categories of. Of coaches, that there are coaches who winning a playoff game would save their job. Say like Shane Steichen.

[Dan Patrick]

Right.

[Nick Wright]

If the Colts won a playoff game. All right, dude, you're good for another year.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we'll get you there. Yeah. But then there's other people that like winning playoff games probably isn't enough. Like made like Zach Taylor needs to win. Yes, he does. That's a fellow right there that needs to not only win a playoff game, but go have a run because you can only live off the fumes of going to a Super bowl for so long. Yeah. Now, now, if he won a Super bowl, then maybe it's a little bit different, a little bit more of an extended time. Yeah. See, it's like there are guys who.

[Nick Wright]

Are trying to build something is one category, and then other coaches who are wasting an opportunity. And he might fall into that. Zach Taylor might fall into that, you know, these wasted years category.

[Dan Patrick]

And I don't know about Kevin Stefanski with the Cleveland Browns because I don't know what the expectation level is there. I've been told, expect a little bit more. And to which I said to my source, well, I'm not expecting much. He goes, expect a little bit more. They will be. They're going to surprise you. I said, okay, like if Flaco stays healthy. Okay. But if he doesn't, then it gets really interesting there and then it gets kind of choppy because you're not quite sure who's your quarterback, what it means for the future, and you always have that in the back of your mind. They have two first round picks next year. There's a chance that all of these quarterbacks on the Browns may not be there next year. Or two of the three won't be there next year. You got rookie contracts and you got Joe Flacco. Yes.

[Nick Wright]

Where do you put like a Brian Schottenheimer on that list?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I have to give him at least two years. And Jerry likes to keep the guys in there that really don't fight back. Yeah. That they kind of allow him to be the owner and the coach and the GM and it's his first year. It is, but he also hasn't. He does. I don't think he has a guarantee after this year either. Is it just. Is it one year? I think that his contract structure. I think I. I feel like Florio.

[Nick Wright]

Posted something about his contract structure is not built for longevity.

[Dan Patrick]

It's built for a very quick out. If I might be wrong, though. Okay. Paulie, do you have Schottenheimer's contract?

[Nick Wright]

Seaton's partially right because it's a four year contract, approximately 4.5 million per year, which is very low in the NFL.

[Mike McDaniel]

But there are some outs, easy outs, after two years.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah. You give him two years. See what he can do with that roster. Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

Paulie, going back to the Bengals, I was looking at their history. They're disturbingly, they're very loyal to head coaches. They've had two head coaches in 24 years. Marvin Lewis, they allowed him a number of losing seasons. But he never had two in a row. And, you know, Zach Taylor, hot start, but, you know, nine and eight. Nine and eight the past two years.

[John Lithgow]

No losing season.

[Dan Patrick]

Got to make the playoffs. Got to make the playoffs. All the money that you spent in the off season. Got to make the playoffs. Yeah. Paul. Or. Yes.

[Nick Wright]

What about if we put on that list? This isn't just a playoff game. There's a guy that needs to have a significant run. I think Sean McDermott.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Mo. He's a great. You know, their regular seasons are great, but Buffalo Bills need to go to the title game for sure. For at least. At least. I think. Okay, more pressure. Dan Campbell or Sean McDermott. Because it feels like it's super bowl or bust. Yeah, Marvin, I'm gonna go with Dan Campbell.

[John Lithgow]

And I think going off of the 247 lead that you had in the NFC title game, it's time to get back.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

Because it's not like the bills were.

[John Lithgow]

Up 247 on the Chiefs. Like, oh, we could have went to the Super Bowl. The Lions could have went already.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know, though.

[Nick Wright]

I mean, I. I feel like there's gotta be a lot of pressure on Sean McDermott. You have Josh Allen, you have.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, you've been able to get.

[Nick Wright]

There, but you just can't get over the hump necessarily.

[Dan Patrick]

I. Yeah. I think that if you're a Bills fan, you're looking. You're not looking at the players and.

[Nick Wright]

Saying, why aren't you doing this?

[Dan Patrick]

It feels like there's been more attention on Sean McDermott in recent years than Dan Campbell. Because we still. I think we're still trying to figure out the Lions, that. That we're told they're good, they should be good, and they had opportunities. They lose Aiden Hutchinson last year, now maybe we get that we're. You're expected to be a Super bowl contender. Yeah, Morph.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, I keep going with Dan Campbell.

[John Lithgow]

Also because of the home playoff loss against the Commanders.

[Dan Patrick]

They got smoked last year at home. But you lost both coordinators in the off season. Still good offense. You get Aiden Hutchinson back then that division, top to bottom. You know, I think people are sleeping on the Vikings that. I mean, all of a sudden, Sam Darnold became, you know, Joe Montana. I mean, they won 13 games, but, you know, all accounts, J.J. mcCarthy is playing well, whatever that means to you. But that's, you know, what I've read. Hey, he's playing well. Okay. Is he playing well like he did at Michigan, or is he going to play well? Like an NFL quarterback. Because you got to play a little more welish if you're going to be an NFL quarterback. Not quarterback at Michigan. Quarterback.

[Nick Wright]

Playing more wellish. Who's most wellish?

[Dan Patrick]

Most wellish. By the way of the week. I have a Dodger fan, and he text all the time. He said Taylor Swift got a ring before the Padres did. I love the rivalries. I love it. Ryan in Pennsylvania. Hi, Rye. What's on your mind today?

[Nick Wright]

Solved your great mystery of the wedding cake bet. Oh, 5:10, 1:40. I found a video, and there's definitely some discrepancy. It sounds like Dan said engagement.

[Dan Patrick]

Fritz, he said wedding.

[Nick Wright]

So you might have to find an attorney now to settle it all.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Ryan, stay on hold. The backroom guys want to talk to you about, you know, the exact date on that. So there's a. There's a damn discrepancy.

[Mike McDaniel]

I knew it'd be semantics.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, we can vote on it. And if you guys want to let Fritzi off the hook on that, you know, let me find it first and then we can listen to it. But I thought that the. The bet was an engagement before I retired. For some reason, I thought that there was a timeframe to this. Yes. Yes.

[John Lithgow]

Todd, I'm interested to see what was.

[Dan Patrick]

I can't. Honestly can't remember.

[John Lithgow]

And if I'm do a cake, then so be it. It's fun, content, but I. Hopefully we can find it and get to the bottom.

[Dan Patrick]

That doesn't help at all.

[John Lithgow]

It does not.

[Dan Patrick]

That does not help. You had nothing to say there. I didn't.

[John Lithgow]

I guess I leaned into the mic.

[Nick Wright]

And you thought I had something to say.

[Dan Patrick]

Everybody has body language. I didn't raise my hand, but I leaned. All the danets have body language that I'm. You know, I'm trying to call them out. Because if you're listening on radio, I want you to know the name and the voice. And Todd leaned in. Seaton has a little bit of a hand up. Paulie puts one finger up. Marv leans in, or he'll have his hand up five or six times in a row. And just trying to read body language there. How about we take a break? We're just getting started. I love love.

[John Lithgow]

I didn't mean to confuse you there.

[Dan Patrick]

It's okay to get away from the.

[John Lithgow]

Mic a little bit more. So you don't think I'm trying to say something.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, it's almost like you're leaning into the microphone as if you' going to be able to hear in the microphone. Like you're leaning in to hear what I'm saying.

[John Lithgow]

It's odd. It's one of my many quirks that I need to work on.

[Dan Patrick]

And once again, you can't spell Todd without odd. Odd. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich.

[Nick Wright]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Nick Wright]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Nick Wright]

We talk about everything.

[Dan Patrick]

Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in.

[Mike McDaniel]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Nick Wright]

We like to get you involved too.

[Dan Patrick]

Take your phone calls, chop it up as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino Enrich Live on Fox Sports radio and the.

[Nick Wright]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Nick Wright]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Nick Wright]

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[Dan Patrick]

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Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of.

[Nick Wright]

The Taking a Walk podcast. And join me for an upcoming episode with Seth MacFarlane, the creator of Family.

[Dan Patrick]

Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.

[John Lithgow]

Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? There were a few unplayed gems that we had been alerted to by Charlie Pinion of Sinatra Enterprises. So we knew that certain songs like Shadow of youf Smile, which actually is not on this record, it'll be on the next one.

[Nick Wright]

Seth MacFarlane.

[John Lithgow]

Don Rickles went up to Frank Sinatra. He said, listen, I'm gonna be having dinner with this lovely woman, and I, you know, would you come over and say hi? And just so you know. Cause I feel like if she sees that I know you, it's gonna make me look really cool. And, you know, I might have a good night. During the middle of dinner, Frank walks over and says, don, hi. How are you? And Don goes, frank, please, I'm in the middle of dinner.

[Dan Patrick]

Seth MacFarlane on the taking a Walk podcast.

[John Lithgow]

Listen to Taking a walk on the.

[Nick Wright]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mike McDaniel]

Imagine that you're on an airplane, and.

[Nick Wright]

All of a sudden you hear this.

[Dan Patrick]

Attention, passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.

[Nick Wright]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this.

[Mike McDaniel]

Until this. Pull that. Turn this. It's just.

[Nick Wright]

I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Mike McDaniel]

I'm Noah.

[Nick Wright]

This is Devin. And on our new show, no Such.

[Mike McDaniel]

Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these.

[Nick Wright]

Join us as we talk to the.

[Mike McDaniel]

Leading expert on overconfidence.

[Dan Patrick]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Nick Wright]

And then as we try the whole.

[Mike McDaniel]

Thing out for real.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, what?

[Mike McDaniel]

Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See, listen to now.

[Nick Wright]

No Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

Podcasts, sometimes it's hard to remember, but.

[Dan Patrick]

Going through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of your life.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have Big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week, I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast, that's One Small Step for Man. It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space. You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Mike McDaniel]

As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Mike McDaniel]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Nick Wright]

Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquered space, but because he conquers himself. Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission starring me, John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

Can you put it through Translate on.

[John Lithgow]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's bring in Nick Wright, host of First Things first on Fox Sports 1, and what's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube. Wherever you get your podcast. Which coach do you think has to have a playoff win this year?

[Nick Wright]

A playoff win is such an interesting way to frame it because I, I just, I was thinking about it in terms of making the playoffs. If Zach Taylor doesn't make the playoffs, he's fired. Like, I don't think Mike McDaniel has to win a playoff game. I disagree with that. And it's not just because he's on in an hour. And by the way, have you ever had in a show, two more physically imposing guests back to back than me? Than Mike McDaniel? My God. I mean, the testosterone throne in this room, off the charts. Like, if the Dolphins make the playoffs, he's as Safe as can be because the expectations have been lowered. You know what I mean? So I would go, I, this is going to sound insane, but I would go like John Harbaugh. They better win a playoff game. Like the. And I know that's the. He's a great coach, Sean McDermott. They need to win a playoff game. Like, it's the. Make the playoffs is the threshold to me for the coach who could be on the hot seat win a playoff game is the coach who, oh, he's totally safe. Unless, of course, this year ends in tragedy because we think we can win the Super Bowl. We don't even make it out around one. So those are the, those are the people I would have put on there if. I know that's a little counterintuitive, but that's how, that's how I view it.

[Dan Patrick]

What about more pressure to win a playoff game? Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh?

[Nick Wright]

Tomlin. Tom Tomlin is. Yeah, that. That's another good one because he's in his own unique category where he, in a weird way, Steeler fans likely would be more okay with four and 13 bottom falls out than the seven seed, make the playoffs and get clocked by Josh Allen again. You know what I mean? Like, seriously like that. And so, yeah, I think Tomlin. Tomlin's better off missing the playoffs and breaking a streak than making the playoffs and losing in round one, which is maybe not fair, but I think that's reality.

[Dan Patrick]

I buried the lead. How emotional was yesterday when you found out that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, I'm very, very happy for him. I also, you know, this is, it's moments like that where I just wish we had a take czar that held people accountable. And I'm not gonna name names here, and I know you're gonna ask me to, but I won't do it. I would just like for the people who two years ago were very adamant that the relationship was a work, was publicity, stun, all of those things. Did they. Do they. Is there a moment of public shame? Is there a moment of apology? Is there a moment of, you know what I shouldn't have doubted? What is America's greatest love story for my own Twitter gain? I don't know. Like, they seem to be really into each other and it seems to be a healthy, delightful relationship. And now they're getting married. Now I know what your follow up question is going to be, which is, am I going to be invited to the wedding? To which I would say that's a very rude question.

[Mike McDaniel]

To ask.

[Dan Patrick]

Ask. Well, because I was going to ask you who will be the maid of honor?

[Nick Wright]

The maid of honor.

[Dan Patrick]

And I'm going. Selena Gomez.

[Nick Wright]

I. I gotta admit, in our years of knowing each other, I think this is the first time I've ever said this on this show. I'm not equipped to answer that question. I like Taylor Swift. I respect Taylor Swift. I know very little about Taylor Swift, so I can't. I'm not. Now, who will we know who the best man's going to be? That'll be Jason.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

100% of the time. And there is something just delightful to the fact that Jason Kelsey and Taylor Swift, God willing, are going to be spending dozens of holidays together moving forward. Like, there is something charming about the idea that there will be a Christmas night sometime in the future where Jason Kelsey, likely wearing overalls with nothing underneath it and eggnog dripping from his beard, tries to give Taylor Swift a giant bear hug. I just like that. That feels very American and awesome to me.

[Dan Patrick]

They'll be crushing beers together.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, absolutely right. Absolutely right. Can I get. Can I ask you your take on someone else's theory? Because I think you'll like it. Since you brought this up. Kevin Wild's national treasure, co host of First Things first. When they first got together, he said, this just confirms my long held belief that all of life is high school. I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, if you're Taylor Swift in high school, the only thing you.

[Dan Patrick]

You.

[Nick Wright]

You were the band girl.

[Dan Patrick]

You.

[Nick Wright]

The only. Like, you didn't get the prom queen, football player boyfriend. Like, that's the one. You've accomplished everything imaginable in life, but there is this one void. Like, you didn't get to have that type of high school experience. And what initially drew her to Travis was, I get to have it now. I'm dating the star football player. I'm going to the games. And that was their initial connection. And I thought it was a brilliant take. And I want your opinion on that take. That's not mine, but now that I've said it on this platform, people will be like, you know what I heard Nick Wright say, even though it was.

[Dan Patrick]

Kevin, you'll get credit.

[Nick Wright]

Exactly right. I gave him credit. Nobody could say I stole it, but the people will forget. I think it's the right take.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

That's why I'm glad I came up with it.

[Dan Patrick]

I love love. I said from the beginning, and have a bet with Fritzi. I thought that they were going to get engaged I thought that they were going to married when people said why do the. Why do they keep showing her on camera? I go blame the networks. But if you have the like it doesn't make any sense that you have the biggest pop star in the world and you wouldn't show her on camera. Of course, we Show Robert Kraft 10 times every Sunday or Jerry Jones is there so right.

[Nick Wright]

Or Jack Nicholson for our entire lives growing up. Like, this is the. The there are the threshold to get cutaways during sporting events of what celebrity you need to be is certainly below world's most famous woman. Like, they're like, I don't know what it is, but it is the kid ump cracks it. So I think Taylor Swift does.

[Dan Patrick]

But remember when Fox would invite like party of five is here at Yankee Stadium down the right field line. And I go, oh. They. How did that happen?

[Nick Wright]

All right. This feels, you know, this feels like a shot because I don't know if you watched last year's World Series, but in the party of five seats was Nick Wright in First Things First. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now some will say, wow, how times have changed. I would say we're right on track, boys.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I do remember that we're talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things first on Fox Sports 1. How did the Chiefs not make the Super Bowl?

[Nick Wright]

Oh, God. Act of God. I, you know, there's obviously one thing that could wreck their season entirely, but I'm not going to say that out loud. Not going to even speak that into the universe. But they're the best team in the league. They're certainly the best team in the afc. And Dan, I realized the tell a sports media tell. You're going to love this. I know you're going to love this because it's been very trendy this offseason. This is not a straw, man. This isn't Nick looking, you know, scouring the Internet for Chiefs. Doubt it's been there in large supply and that the Ravens got better. They're clearly the best roster. The Bills, you know, have ascended and the Chiefs, you know, is the window not closed, but closing? And oh, my God, has anyone seen how Bo Nicks plays against backups? Holy moly. The AFC west is in jeopardy. That has been that take has been everywhere all offseason. And then Micah Parsons maybe comes available and all those same people with that, the Chiefs are vulnerable. The Chiefs aren't the best. You know what their take on Micah is? Man, Buffalo or Baltimore needs to make the phone call. It's like, hold on A second. No. You know what? No one has said if the Chiefs want a chance to get back to the super bowl, they need to trade for Micah Parsons. Everyone is saying simultaneously, b block of the show, Ravens and Bills are the class of the afc. A block of the next day show, the Ravens and Bills need to trade for Micah Parsons to get over the hump. What's the hump, America? Who are we talking about here? Finish the thought. So the Chiefs will be fine. Jeff Simmons, Josh Simmons, pardon me, hopefully has fixed the left tackle position. I don't know if you saw it yesterday, but every single receiver from the 2022 Kansas City Chiefs when Mahomes 1 MVP set the all time record for total yards in the season, one Super Bowl MVP is no longer in the NFL. And the Chiefs won with that team. They'll be able to win with this team.

[Dan Patrick]

I hate rankings. And I know it's good. I know it's good conversation. Good, Phil. But you know, I go back to when ESPN said Michael Jordan's the greatest college basketball player of all time.

[Nick Wright]

Well, that was, that was the worst. That's the worst ranking. That's. And I'm not, I'm not trying to take a shot at Jordan there. I know people. Yeah, that's just, that is, that is an untenable opinion. That's like. But go ahead.

[Dan Patrick]

Sorry. But the point is that we keep ranking these quarterbacks and you know, is Jalen Hurts a top five? Is he a top ten? Oh, Mahomes doesn't have the stats. He shouldn't be in the top. And I think if you ranked playoff quarterbacks, that to me has more value now. We won't do that. But, but I would put the guys who have actually done this, the guys who have produced, when your team needs you and you're going to a championship or a Super bowl here it feels like we have two different rankings regular season and then we would have post season. Because I don't care where Jalen Hurts is ranked. I just know on that team he's tremendous and he wins.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah. So, yes, that is true. I also do think I am interested in the impossible but always fun attempt to separate player from team in a team sport concept. And I know some people find it annoying if you're like, if you put Jalen Hurts on another team and it's like, well, he's not on another team. But I do find it somewhat instructive and at least a fun mental exercise. So I, I, in that context, I understand that. Barkley, are you the tractor Are you the trailer piece of this? Which is really what a lot of this is. It goes back to a lot of my Brock Pie skepticism, you know, from a couple years ago, which has been proven correct in every single step of the way. I think Jalen, I like you, value playing your best in the biggest spots. And he has played tremendously in both Super Bowls. He is clearly very tough and he does not blink in the big moment. With that said, I. I am not. That is enough to me to elevate him with would I rather have in a playoff game Jalen hurt hurts or Lamar. I'd rather have Jalen hurts in a playoff game. It would I rather have Jalen hurts or Josh Allen? I'd rather have Josh Allen. Now I know Josh hasn't been to a Super bowl, but he has, he has played so well in the postseason that you can't be like, ah, the moment gets to him. And so that to me though now, ideally, in a perfect world, you would have a quarterback with the greatest stats in the regular season and the postseason. But unfortunately everyone can't be Chiefs fans.

[Dan Patrick]

If not the Eagles in the nfc, then who?

[Nick Wright]

All right, I this now I'm not picking the Eagles in the nfc. I will answer this question. Will you ask your social media people not to put it out because you are. You're front running. First things first. Prediction week. Is that a deal? We make our big picks on Friday.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Paul, would you tell the backroom guys that we can't put this out.

[Nick Wright]

You can't put this out and on. I'm not going to ask you on YouTube to bleep it, but this could be a live audience exclusive.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, done.

[Nick Wright]

The the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh my goodness.

[Nick Wright]

Oh my.

[Dan Patrick]

That's.

[Nick Wright]

I know it's going to be hard now. Your guys in the back room are going to be like that is gonna. That is viral but viral bonanza. This guy. Nobody's had that. But I'm telling you, listen, we can talk the schedule, the offense, bake show a lot of stuff, lot of stuff to like the fact that if you don't have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes last 25 years, you win the super bowl. Half the teams, more than half the teams don't even win a playoff game the next year. Only one team, Russell Wilson Seahawks have gotten back to the Super Bowl. No team has gone Back to back NFC east in 20 years since Andy Reid did it four straight times with the Eagles. A lot of things there. A lot, lot to like about the box.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. You Watched the cowboys documentary.

[Nick Wright]

I've been gambling in Monaco. Dan. Sorry, I have not watched it.

[Dan Patrick]

I just got still get Netflix in Monaco.

[Nick Wright]

Hey, honey, I'm about to retire to six straight months of football at all times. We're in the south of France. You go have fun. I'm gonna watch Jerry Jones and Emmett.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Wait a minute. Have you watched the Chiefs documentary?

[Nick Wright]

Kevin Wilde's wife produced that. And the answer to that is also no. Okay, I have not watched the chief stock.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay?

[Nick Wright]

Because I'm not equal opportunity.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, fair enough.

[Nick Wright]

It's fair. And also too painful. Too painful. I know how the story ends. You know, one of the worst moments of my life.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you cry?

[Nick Wright]

No, I didn't cry, but I. It didn't too much. I was gonna too far. I, I have to self censor. Did I hurt myself? Did I cry?

[Dan Patrick]

You self harmed yourself again.

[Nick Wright]

That's why I said self edit. I see you grabbing the paper, which means our interview is almost over, but so I have to do something real quick because you and I are. I, I, I owe you a dinner.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, we have.

[Nick Wright]

We've been missing each other. You know where we should do it? Hold on. Let me hold this up to the camera. It's a bit of a trip for you. You see the, See what that says?

[Dan Patrick]

1587 prime. Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

Did you get your invite to the opening? Who's number 15? Patrick, Travis. Kelsey, Come on. New steakhouse in Kansas City, buddy. We could go to the opening together. You can be my plus one. How about that? What if I get to say how's. Why is Dan Patrick here? He's Nick Wright's plus one.

[Dan Patrick]

What a dream. And that's what it'll be. Just a dream.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, you know what?

[Dan Patrick]

But nice. Thank you for the invitation.

[Nick Wright]

You want to go with me to U.S. open? I'm going tonight.

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, fine. Is it bad form? I'm wearing my Wimbledon shirt to the US Open. I know you're trying to go.

[Dan Patrick]

I like it. That's fine. You wear what you want to wear.

[Nick Wright]

Okay. Thanks, buddy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, you're always dressed up on, on your show.

[Nick Wright]

Well, yeah, we wear suits.

[Dan Patrick]

No, it's not.

[Nick Wright]

You guys wear quarter zips.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, this is a radio show that's on tv.

[Mike McDaniel]

Oh, really?

[Dan Patrick]

You're a TV show on tv?

[Nick Wright]

You guys aren't on TV anymore.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but we are a radio show.

[Nick Wright]

Oh, you know, dress for the job you want.

[Dan Patrick]

That's what it is. Well, when you get dressed up and you hand out the super bowl trophy, then you let me know. I knew you were gonna say that. 100 million people watching what I wore.

[Nick Wright]

Million people watch?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. 100 million people. Four times.

[Nick Wright]

Four times.

[Dan Patrick]

Four times. Handing out the Super Bowl.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah. And then you did the Olympics.

[Dan Patrick]

That's 400 million. And then the Olympic stone in there. I don't need to be dressing up.

[Nick Wright]

What do you wear to the Emmys? To not go on stage.

[Dan Patrick]

To not win. Yeah. Same thing you wear.

[Nick Wright]

Okay. What?

[Dan Patrick]

Nothing. Thank you, Nick. Thank you. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor Day.

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[Dan Patrick]

Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast.

[Nick Wright]

And join me for an upcoming episode with Sack McFarlane, the creator of Family.

[Dan Patrick]

Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.

[John Lithgow]

Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? There were a few unplayed gems that we had been alerted to by Charlie Pinion of Sinatra Enterprises. So we knew that certain songs like Shadow of youf Smile, which actually is not on this record, it'll be on the next one.

[Nick Wright]

Seth MacFarlane.

[John Lithgow]

Don Rickles went up to Frank Sinatra and he said, listen, I'm gonna be having dinner with this lovely woman and I, you know, would you come over and say hi? And just so you know, because I feel like if she sees that, I know you. It's gonna make me look really cool, and, you know, I might have a good night. During the middle of dinner, Frank walks over and says, don, hi. How are you? And Don goes, frank, please, I'm in the middle of dinner.

[Dan Patrick]

Seth MacFarlane on the taking a Walk podcast. Listen to Taking a walk on the.

[Nick Wright]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mike McDaniel]

Imagine that you're on an airplane, and.

[Nick Wright]

All of a sudden you hear this.

[Dan Patrick]

Attention, passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.

[Nick Wright]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this.

[Mike McDaniel]

Until this. Pull that. Turn this.

[Nick Wright]

It's. It's just I do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Mike McDaniel]

I'm Noah.

[Nick Wright]

This is Devin. And on our new show, no Such.

[Mike McDaniel]

Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these.

[Nick Wright]

Join us as we talk to the.

[Mike McDaniel]

Leading expert on o Overconfidence.

[Dan Patrick]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Nick Wright]

And then as we try the whole.

[Mike McDaniel]

Thing out for real.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, what?

[Mike McDaniel]

Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.

[Dan Patrick]

See?

[Mike McDaniel]

Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast, that's One Small Step for Man. It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space. You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Mike McDaniel]

As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

To depression, alcohol abuse, and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Mike McDaniel]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Nick Wright]

Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over any addiction.

[Nick Wright]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself. Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission starring me, John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Dan Patrick]

Columbia.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going.

[Dan Patrick]

Through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of your life.

[Dr. Lea Tritate]

That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that Our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like, like, and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance, and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Mike McDaniel, fourth season as the Dolphins head coach and of course a star wide receiver with the Yale Bulldogs.

[Mike McDaniel]

Official height and weight coach, five nine and undisclosed.

[Dan Patrick]

Because at Yale you were five nine, one. 75. But that feels like that might have been inflated a little bit.

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, it was actually closer to my true weight at that time. I was inflated. My body wasn't really built for that weight, but I, I was taking a lot of supplements at the time.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Legal supplements, of course.

[Mike McDaniel]

Of course. Above brow, of course.

[Dan Patrick]

Were you Julian Edelman before Julian Edelman?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yes. In statement? Yeah. No, I was limited to inside receiver route tree because of lack of linear speed.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Mike McDaniel]

And I was quicker than fast, as they'd say. And I did a lot of coaching while playing, if you know what I mean.

[Dan Patrick]

How about 40 yard dash? If you raised Tyreek Hill?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, he would get me. I just think about it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Is there anybody closer to him speed wise?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, there's. I think there's a lot of guys that are, that are, that are fast, particularly on our team. But I think what makes his speed unique is the acceleration. You know, he gets top speed very quick. He's almost top speed on the third step of a route when he's motioning. So the quickness and speed is hard to, Is hard to match. But there's several guys on the team that will with absolute certainty say that they're faster than him, even though they don't have a time as fast as his.

[Dan Patrick]

But if you're calling plays knowing that he's so quick at like, does it change if you're calling something? Let's say it's, it's third and seven. You just want to get him the ball because of that acceleration. Not he has to go out seven or eight yards.

[Mike McDaniel]

No, you know, quite literally one of the, the positives of being in the same offensive system for my entire career, you know, I came in 2005 learning Mike Shanahan's and have stayed with it is realistically the. What the offense is is a product of people's skill sets. So we do a lot of timing motion because we can utilize Tyreek and Waddle and etc at that that their unique skill set. So pretty much, you know all, all players skill sets for us now in the system are you've kind of adapted to them and try to use their, their best skills most frequently.

[Dan Patrick]

When did that change? It felt like when quarterbacks were drafted certainly in my era that you had to adapt to that coach and his philosophy where it feels like I Cam Newton when he came in it felt like Carolina says hey, we're going to cater to your needs. I don't know if you remember since you were there with Shanahan in OH5, did you see something a seismic shift where you're kind of adapting your audience or your, your offense to that quarterback you're taking.

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, I think you just hit on something super interesting because the whole, the whole tree underneath. Kyle Shanahan Learned that in 2012 when we had a rookie RG3 at quarterback and we're going to jump into the. The game of zone Reed and realistically we completely adapted. You know, I was an offensive assistant, you know, Matt LaFleur was the quarterback coach. Sean McVeigh was the Titans coach, Kyle Shanahan was the offense coordinator. You know, Raheem Morris was the defense or secondary coach. Bobby Sloc was outside linebackers coach. All these people firsthand where we had our offense from what we ran in Houston and extension Denver and then retooled it in Washington and then for, for me personally and, and Kyle we went, we got fired and then went to Cleveland and had a job and didn't want to get fired. So we tried to adapt to those players and then we did the same thing when we went to Atlanta. So it's really in the course of the journey. Early on we, we had the opportunity to you know, directly, you know, evolve the offense to cater to players needs. And you know, I've kind of seen.

[Dan Patrick]

Everything through that lens since most talented quarterback you've ever been around.

[Mike McDaniel]

Talented at what? The quarterback, quarterbacking. You know, I would, I would say, you know, Matt Ryan was up there, but I think two is probably the, the most talented quarterback. The, the Most talented speed threat was probably Robert Griffin iii. You know, so he, he was fast. And before the defense schematically caught up to us, you know, he was rookie of the year for a reason. Matt Ryan played the game in a unique way that really changed a lot of stuff that we do in the dropout game based upon how, how good he was. And then there was one of the best quarterbacks at play action pass that's super underrated was Matt Schaub. He was a, he was really good at utilizing Andre Johnson's speed and being able to avoid sacks while getting explosives.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Mike McDaniel, fourth season as the Dolphins head coach. You start out, you got Indy at Indy, then host New England at Buffalo and then host New York. How much pressure do you feel?

[Mike McDaniel]

I always think that's funny because I think I would have to be delusional to not, you know, expect. Yeah, I think you take a job like this and you, you're working in the NFL and for me, I'm preparing to have this job and I take the job and I'm very much aware of the black and white reality of, you know, wins and losses and, and how things, how you're able to, you know, sustain the job and keep the job and evolve. The program is all based on, you know, the nuts and bolts of winning and losing games. So I think everything that I do to prepare has always been to kind of be my best self in moments of pressure. And yeah, I mean, I know it exists, but I don't feel it because it's kind of, you know, ingrained or attached to what I understand this job to be.

[Dan Patrick]

How much do you take home with you?

[Mike McDaniel]

You know, the, the gift of, you know, my one and only daughter has, has really helped, you know, create some boundaries for myself. You know, I carry stuff through the, through the car ride home, but when I get home, especially when you have a short, compressed time to, to be something that's, you know, a pillar of importance in who you are as a person, which is being a father. For me, I get to, I get the gift of being able to get home, see her face, engage her, and try to leave it at work. Because you have to be balanced in life to have your edge at your, at performance, really, for whatever you're doing. So it, you know, I think earlier in my career I struggled to do that, but my daughters really helped me.

[Nick Wright]

Out with that one.

[Dan Patrick]

When you were growing up and you were getting those autographs, when you go to the Broncos camp, do you still have those autographs?

[Mike McDaniel]

I do in a trunk somewhere.

[Dan Patrick]

What are some of your favorite autographs that you got when you were a kid?

[Mike McDaniel]

I had a. I had a one sleeve of cards, like in the plastic, but it was a sleeve and a binder that kept all the autographs. And it was probably the John La page. I had about seven of them because I was a relentless, obsessed, daily visitor at Denver Broncos training camp. So those are probably my favorite or, you know, the Robert Del Pino one that led to. To. To me meeting my. My stepdad. That was probably the two best ones that. That got me connected with Mike Shanahan in the first place.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so explain that, because wasn't it an assistant coach? Right. Explain how your mom met her, your stepdad.

[Mike McDaniel]

Well, I mean, it's the. The normal nuclear family. A trajectory of a child introducing mother and stepfather, of course.

[Dan Patrick]

Happens all the time.

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah. So I was getting autograph. Well, I would go to Denver Bronco training camp and. And get autographs daily. I had a Charlotte Hornets fitted, loud purple and teal hat. And it was noticeable. So I got Robert Del Pino's autograph. Earlier in the day, I wanted to get another one. As an only child, I guess I just wanted more. So I put the hat down, got the autograph, came back, the hat was gone. I was about 9 at the time, so I was crying. And a member of the Broncos was interested in why I was freaking out. I told him about the hat. He took down the measurements. A couple days later, he saw me again at training camp because I was automatic at Lawrence hall at the time. And he. He gave me a hat with a price tag on it. He went out to the Greeley Mall and bought me a hat. And so then I thought he was worthy of meeting my mother. So I introduced them and they. They got married. I moved to Denver and was. As a result, he was a assistant video guy for. For the Broncos. And I got to. At age 14. I was a ball boy through high school and, you know, really got in the NFL door, you know, being able to be around the guys and stuff from, you know, before I could drive.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, speaking of love, your reaction to Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift getting engaged was what?

[Mike McDaniel]

Oh, you just told me. I didn't know.

[Nick Wright]

Wait, wait, that's my reaction.

[Dan Patrick]

How. How do you not know?

[Mike McDaniel]

Well, you. You keep yourself from anything that's multimedia, and then you make yourself a terrible conversation when people bring up pop culture. And you do that over time, and then you don't know anything that you, you know, I'm Pumped to hear about it now, I guess.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm sure.

[Mike McDaniel]

You know, I think there's layers to, to my reaction, you know, you know, I. I'm hoping it's a loved, love based relationship and, you know, and good for them, you know, finally, finally they're not. I mean, finally they're doing it the old fashioned way, you know, where people shouldn't really enter into any escapades unless they're married, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

So now if one of your guys gets engaged, do you expect to be invited to the wedding?

[Mike McDaniel]

No, I'm the boss, like, so. I appreciate if I am, but my expectation is that nobody wants to hang out with me ever. That, that I'm the boss of.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you a buzzkill?

[Mike McDaniel]

No, it's just the nature of boss, you know, the nature of boss is like, all right, this isn't work. Why do I feel like it's work? Oh, because there's the guy that may or may not be judging me, you know, so I don't get my feelings hurt. I don't have high expectations for that. Just understanding the role and responsibility.

[Dan Patrick]

Always great to catch up with you. Thanks for joining us. Good luck starting the season.

[Mike McDaniel]

Thank you very much.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Mike McDaniel, fourth season, is the Dolphins head coach. They were 8, 9 last year. And they open up at Indy, host New England at Buffalo, and host New York. Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of.

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