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All right, there's a couple of things going on. The Tiger woods story is not just a sports story. It's a whole lot bigger than that. But next week, is the Masters? Is Tiger going to go? Is Tiger going to go to the Champions Dinner on Tuesday night? Tiger's also involved in a public golf course project there close to Augusta National. Will he go there for that? Is he going to play, try to play in the Masters? If you've won the Masters, you get an invite. But now not all players who have won the Masters decide to play in the Masters. They become too old. They don't want to put up, you know, 95 as their score. Tiger has not let Augusta national know if he's going to be there or not to participate. Now 15 former winners have told the Masters they will not be participating in the actual tournament. As of this morning, Tiger has not let anybody know anything. There is a report that Tiger is still practicing. And that would give you maybe some credence to Tiger will still try to play at Augusta. Will he even go? You know, if he's not going to play, will he go to the Champions Dinner on Tuesday night? He's got a press conference now. At least he was scheduled for a press conference to talk about this public golf course that they're launching in Augusta. And he's part of it. He's part of the design team. Is he going to show up? They want Tiger there. They want him At a press conference. This is prior to his arrest. Is he going to go? And if he goes, is he going to talk to the media? Will he say, hey, I can't talk about that? Which I don't know who is, who his advisors are and what their game plan would be for something like this. But this was supposed to be a really big deal. I didn't think Tiger was going to play. But as I said yesterday, I've said a couple of times, there is a photograph of his private jet there in Augusta recently. And you usually go a couple of weeks prior if you're going to be playing in the tournament. We'll talk to Jim Bones Makai, who now works for NBC, get his thoughts on the Tiger situation. He'll join us coming up next hour. Reggie, in the final hour of the program, we've talked about it. I know I talk about it maybe too much. But keep this in mind. On March 24th, Victor Wembanyama's MVP odds were plus 2200. As of this morning, they're listed at plus 225. Here he comes. He put up 41 last night. SGA put up 47. They won their 60th game. Reggie Miller text me late last night and he said, I want to revisit the MVP conversation. I don't know. Feels like reg I was Reggie doing the. I think he was doing the Thunder and the Knicks last night. Is that the Sunday night game?
Theodore
He did Thunder.
Dan Patrick
Okay. That's probably why he wants to talk about SGA. But you know, you get to your 60 wins if you have the most wins. I still think that SGA is going to be your mvp, but the fact that you had JJ Redick, the Lakers head coach Doncic was suspended for a 16th technical. So he didn't play. LeBron had a triple double last night. But JJ said, hey, the way Lucas playing, he would be my mvp. Well, I expect him to say that. It would be news if he said, are you kidding? SGA is, or Victor is going to be, but you're going to give your guys support there. Luca, to me, is still the best player in the game. He's not going to win. And it, you know, it can come down to subtle things like if Denver had the best record in the west, then Joker would win the mvp. They're on a run. If the spurs have the best record, then Wemby would probably be your mvp. Should it come down to who has the best record, is that the most valuable? You know, I've said before with Jalen Brown you carry the Celtics for half the season, maybe three quarters of the season, Tatum comes back, and now you're the team with the second best odds to win the championship behind okc, Jalen Brown. To me, I would put him ahead of Luca. I wouldn't put him ahead of sga. I wouldn't put him ahead of Wemby. You could put him ahead of Joker and have a legitimate case. You know, his numbers aren't the same, but he's been great. He's been great for the Celtics, quietly. This was supposed to be one of those, well, this will be an off year. Maybe the Pistons are the team that plays for a championship out of the east, or maybe the Knicks or maybe the Cavs. Now it's Boston with the second best odds of anybody to win the championship. The other story is Dan Hurley and his. I. I don't even know how to describe this, because it's not a headbutt, but it's almost a meeting of the minds where they touch foreheads after the shot, and you're thinking, what is he thinking? To put yourself in a position like that where you're. You're touching foreheads with the official with 4/10 of a second left for you to go to the final Four. Now, a lot of people, yeah, this became more than just a basketball situation. Everybody has an opinion. Because if I look at this and I listen to social media, you know, Danny Hurley is. Is polarizing, but it doesn't look good. But I have to put it in context here, and I think that's the hard part for people, because you've already made up your mind that Dan Hurley. Why would he be taunting the official when you just hit a shot 4/10 of a second, your team is leading. And Seth Davis from CBS said, for context, the referee is Roger A. He's worked multiple final fours, known for his toughness and his sense of humor. This struck me as Danny Hurley messing with a buddy more than intimidating. A reference. This is after the Mullen shot. So Hurley was obviously not mad at the officials. Social media wasn't as kind and didn't offer that context here. Why no technical. Well, I kept saying, okay, what is the context of this? Has Danny Hurley been interviewed since this to ask about this moment? I haven't seen anything, but I'm surprised. I would figure local media availability, somebody would ask him about that. But I don't think Danny Hurley would pick that moment to try to intimidate the referee because you're already leading. That would cost you the game. It Felt like, hey, that was a moment almost, you know, like, how do you like them apples? That's the feeling I got, you know, Matt Damon and Good Will Hunting. How do you like them apples? Maybe he's saying, hey, what do you think of that? But I. I haven't heard anything from him. But the context of it, I think is important with this official, veteran official and their relationship. I don't know, but I would love to find that out if somebody is. I mean, we weren't going to ask for Dan Hurley again. He joined us last week and gave us a lot of time. But I. I haven't even seen a statement that. If I'm Yukon, the sports information director. Can you put out a statement there? When is there media availability for Dan Hurley and Connecticut? Because it is a big deal and he's polarizing to start with. And look, I've watched that video 50 times, it feels like. And I. I just. I come away with these same. What the hell is going on here? Like, I'm. I've seen a lot in 40 years doing this. That's wild. You're gonna. You're gonna touch foreheads. I can't say it's a headbutt. It's not. But I'd love to hear from the official. Hey, I've known Hurley, you know, we went back and forth. You know, whatever you're. You're reasoning is on this or description is on this. Yes, Marvin, I've seen the meaning of
Theodore
the minds between players. Maybe the coach and Mullins, if they would have done that, that would have been fine. But the ref, that's almost like doing that to John Shire.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's just wild. Yes.
Theodore
Todd, you don't want to know or believe that a coach and a ref are buddies. At the very least, it's a bad look.
Dan Patrick
So that's.
Theodore
That's the only little problem I have there. If it's being described as. That's just something between two buddies, that's just not.
Dan Patrick
Well, I don't think that's correct. I don't think they're buddies, but I think there's familiarity there that they're both competitors. I don't know if. Unless Danny Hurley comes out and says, oh, yeah, man, we socialize, or we're buddies, you know, on and off the court. I mean, if he says that, then, yeah, that. You can read into that however you want to, that, well, he's got his buddy out there. They travel in the same circles. And, you know, this official has done some final Fours. I'm Assuming they cross paths quite a bit. If they're playing in big games. Yes.
Cris
That's actually a bigger problem. If they're like, well, we're buddies on and off the court, like, okay, that's not supposed to be happening.
Paulie
Yeah.
Cris
I do find, though, that the more like you. I've watched it a gajillion times and it gets kind of more bizarre, slash, more amusing each time that I watch it. The thing though, that I. I keep coming back to is you, obviously, you watch Dan Hurley in that moment, you're like, dude, what is this guy doing? But when you watch the ref, he has no reaction. Yeah, he doesn't even. It's not even odd to him at all. In the moment, if some dude came up to you and put his forehead on your forehead, 99.9 of people would
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be like, yo, what are you doing, dude?
Dan Patrick
Yes.
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What the heck?
Cris
Because it's just an odd motion to make. This guy is like just going through to the scores table, almost like, oh,
Dan Patrick
I gotta see how much time is left.
Cris
You know, like, he's just doing business, get out of my face kind of thing. He didn't even. He didn't even react at all to it.
Dan Patrick
And usually you would get the. Almost overreaction. If somebody was trying to headbutt you. You would bounce back. Yeah, flop. But there was no emotion. There was. I mean, there was pause, but then that was it. He just kept moving to the scores table because he wanted to get the exact time. Then, you know, all of a sudden it's 3/10 of a second instead of 4/10 of a second. Or maybe it's 4/10 of a second. But Hurley is a mess. You know, is jacket is kind of on and off and he's walking down, can't believe what just happened. And then all of a sudden he sees him coming. And it might have been something as, hey, what do you think of that? And then they move on. Yeah, Paulie.
Paulie
Like, you guys, I've watched this 20 times, and if you had to describe this to someone, it's almost hard to find the words. It's like Danny Hurley was speaking in tongues or having an out of body moment because he turns and they kind of run into each other. And then if you keep watching the video, there's a longer video. The ref goes to the scores table, doesn't say anything back, and is working on the rest of the game.
Dan Patrick
And Hurley just goes back to the bench and resumes coaching. But yes, it was a. If you look at the headlines, there you know, it's headbutts official. Why not a technical call? I mean, social media. And I get it, I get it. Any other coach, we probably would have been a little more lenient. And if John Shire did that and they, you know, had a shot, big shot now, he could have done it to the official after Mullins hits the shot. Like, what the hell? What just happened here? Yeah, Paul.
Paulie
The headlines are fascinating all over the country, even international headlines. Dan Hurley headbutts ref. Dan Hurley physically confronts ref. And there's real people that were bothered this. Terry McCauley is the NBC rules official. He said he was disappointed that the official didn't do his job and. And tee up Danny Hurley in the moment.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but that's why I think we need context here and we need it from Dan Hurley and the official. I think this is really important and I would hope that somebody can get, you know, some kind of statement or if Dan Hurley wants to join us and talk about that. Great. Or the official. Do the officials do any interviews? Todd, can we get Roger A's?
Theodore
We'll certainly ask.
Dan Patrick
Is he. I don't think he's working this weekend, so he's got some time sometimes.
Theodore
And refs, there's all kinds of rules about that.
Dan Patrick
But if they say no, they say no.
Paulie
Yeah, Paul, he might be recovering from the attack. We should be give a little.
Dan Patrick
Patient ptsd been discharged from the hospital. We do know that Post traumatic stress, Danny. Yeah, ptsd.
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Jim 'Bones' MacKay
I'm doing great, Dan. How are you?
Dan Patrick
I'm good. How many miles do you think you've walked in your career as an on course reporter and a caddy?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
It's a good question. A guy came up to me once to determine I think I was at the the Open championship and he had done some math around some what caddies had done. He told me I'd walked around the globe twice with a golf bag on my back so my, my knees still hurt. So if that's any indication, I've worked walked a lot.
Dan Patrick
Have you had a game time decision whether you were going to be able to caddy for Phil or Justin?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
You know, certainly traveling around the globe and doing certain things you've run into, you know, food poisoning and things like that. I missed a couple of days over the course of 30 years of caddying, but I've never had a, like a major injury or anything like that that kept me from working.
Dan Patrick
Before I get to Tiger, I want to ask you about Phil Mickelson, because we haven't heard much from Phil either. And I don't know, is he, do you expect him to be at the Masters? Is he still wanting to compete on a high level?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Yeah, I think Phil's a guy that's, that would think he could win the masters into his 60s. So it's just the way he's built. He's, you know, back playing competitive golf again now on his tour. So I would expect he'll, he'll show up at the Masters and he'll be intent on winning.
Dan Patrick
What's it like, though, for a caddie and a player, let's say this time, you know, leading up to the Masters? What are you doing? What's your player doing to get ready?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
I think watching, you know, again, it gets back to what some of what we're talking about today with what the incredible Masters app and what's available out there in terms of watching previous Masters and picking up, you know, breaks on greens and wins on 12 and things like that. So there's, there's so much you can delve into now, especially again, once you get into the Masters app, which is award winning and the greatest app in sports, if you ask me, that you can learn to help you out there on the golf course.
Dan Patrick
But are you playing, Are you going to Augusta a week before?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
There's real rules in terms of what the caddies can and can't do. You can't, you know, just go out there as a caddy a week before and walk the golf course a number of times and roll balls on the greens. You can only do it once your players showed up to town, so to speak. The players can play as much as they want to, but the caddies really don't get a chance to get a crack at the golf course until tournament week.
Dan Patrick
When's the last time you played Augusta?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Last November.
Dan Patrick
How'd you do?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
It's getting away from me a little bit. I'm at that age now where golf and I aren't getting along that well. But I did all right. Thank you.
Dan Patrick
IBM and the Masters are unveiling a new AI powered feature. This is what Jim was talking about. So this is an immersive way for fans to experience the masters. You go masters.com and tell me more about the app of what fans can experience with this.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Well, it, you know, you, you can get out there through the Masters app and you can see every hole, every shot, every player in real time. It's an amazing thing. It's, it's an award Winning app. And it's, it's a, it's a must have in terms of keeping up with what's going on in the tournament if you're not on property. And it's got a couple of additional features this year. It's got the Masters vault search, which enables you to go back over 50 years and just, you know, type in, you know, Tiger's chip shot on 16 and it'll bring it up and show you, you know, great moments in past Masters history or Jack Nicklaus's amazing Putt on 16 in 1975 on his way to another win. It's just an incredible way to immerse yourself in the tournament and, and get ready, fired up for this year's Masters.
Dan Patrick
I was surprised how hilly when I first went to Augusta back in the early 90s. It doesn't, people don't assume that it's going to be hilly in Georgia. Augusta, that's really surprised me. And the elevation, the changing in elevation. That's why, you know, when we talk about these guys have to walk this course, you don't get, you don't get carts. You got to walk it. And that's what, you know, when you're looking at Tiger trying to be able to play in previous years, maybe this year, that elevation takes its toll on these guys.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Yeah, it's, you're exactly right. It's what, you know, first timers say without, you know, question the shocks. And the most about being on the property is, you know, walking up eight or, you know, walking up the, even the first fairway, if you will, to, to your tee shot. It's, it's, it's rigorous and it takes a toll on your body. And not only does your golf game have to be in good shape, but you have to be as physically as well.
Dan Patrick
What do you expect from Tiger next week? Where is he going to be, in your opinion?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Oh, man, it's such a tough question. I hope he's there. I certainly hope he's at the Champions Dinner. You know, it would be great to have people rally around him there. Whether or not he plays, I don't know. I'm sure the events of last week may, you know, affect whether or not he ultimately does tee it up in the tournament. But where, wherever he is, I hope he's got, you know, his friends close by and there's a lot of people out there that are, that are there for him, so to speak.
Dan Patrick
What was it like, though? You're there with Phil and Phil's going toe to toe with Tiger. And you're the caddy. Is there part of you that's competitive with Stevie Williams, you know, Tigers, cat like you? You have to. This is my guy. That's your guy. You know, how did the caddies kind of approach that rivalry?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Yeah, there's a little of that. Certainly, you know, with Steve and I. You're competitive. I was actually pretty good friends with Tiger and still am. And, and, and certainly you don't want that to become a factor when you're out there trying to win the Masters on a Sunday. I'm out there doing my thing with Phil, but, you know, those guys, you know, were obviously on a different page for most of their careers in terms of, you know, how they went about things and their relationship itself. So I usually, you know, kept to what I was doing with Phil. And, you know, if you had a moment, you might have a conversation with Tiger about this or that. But, you know, usually you, you know, those guys got paired together late on a Sunday. You're trying to win the Masters or some other huge event. You're, you're, you're just, you know, clawing and trying to pick up every shot you can.
Dan Patrick
What is it like? Now you're an on course analyst, but when you see the live players and the regular PGA Tour players interacting, like, is it. Well, you tell me if, if it feels like forced a little, you know, they can't. Are they buddy buddies still, even though they're playing on rival tours?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
I think it depends on the player. I mean, you know, you look at a guy like Dustin Johnson, I mean, he's still, you know, a lot of people love Dustin, and for good reason. He's, he's a wonderful guy. And, and I think when he left to do his thing, he, he did it in, in the appropriate way. I just think it depends player to player. Whereas some other guys might have left in a different fashion.
Dan Patrick
Tiger at his peak, Scotty Scheffler right now in the embryonic stages of his career. Can you make any comparisons between those two?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
I can say that I never thought in my lifetime, I'm 60 years old, that there would be another player that I would say, hey, my gosh, he's entering that conversation. Is he as good as Tiger? No, he's not. Tiger is by far the best player I've ever seen, but I didn't think I'd see another player this good. In terms of what Scotty Scheffler is
Dan Patrick
accomplishing on the PGA Tour, what's your signature moment?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
I guess that conversation with Phil and The trees at number 13 at Augusta in 2010, when we had a little back and forth as to what the best, the best, you know, strategy was out of those trees. And of course, Phil wanted to go for it, you know, from the moment he set foot behind the ball and saw that there was a gap in the pines. And, you know, it's not that I try to talk him out of it because he was insistent on going, but we had to get that club selection right. It worked out nicely and, and on his way to his third Master's victory.
Dan Patrick
But how does that work where you have to have an opinion, he gives you the opportunity to have opinion. What happens when your opinion doesn't coincide with his?
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Well, he's the boss, certainly. And Phil was a, you know, was in a, a very opinionated, you know, strongly. He, he had, he was. There was no self doubt there with Phil and that was great. It made it easy to work for him. And so, you know, usually when his mind, he had his mind set on something, you know, he was going to go ahead and go and do it, you know, and I would, I would say my piece and kind of back out of there. But he. The thing that's interesting about that shot out of the trees was I worked for the guy for 25 years. It was one of only two occasions where we got ourselves into a bit of a pickle, where he told me what he was going to do before I even gave him the yardage. So he, on that particular shot, he had his mind made up and he was ready to roll.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And it turned out great for both of you guys. Tell us one more time how people can access all this data AI from Masters.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Yeah, it's just available through the Masters app. You can get, get it there on your phone or on your, on your, on your device. And it's, it's just an incredible thing to have and to, to be able to keep up with this year's tournament. And it's the most amazing app in sports that I've ever come across.
Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you, Jim. Thanks for joining us.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Thank you, Dan. Take care.
Dan Patrick
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Miller was on the call. Nick's Thunder on Sunday night coast to Coast Tuesday presents a double header on NBC and Peacock tonight Kevin Durant the Rockets play host to Jalen Brunson and the Knicks from Houston at 8 Eastern on NBC. Reggie there with Mike Tirico. I'm getting these text messages from you late last night. All these like you're you're telling me what you want to talk about. You're producing your segment. All right, I'll let you go.
Theodore
Like not at all. We work in conjunction. Theodore.
Dan Patrick
I thought maybe all of a sudden you fell in love with SGA for the mvp.
Theodore
Not all of us.
Dan Patrick
Or you made your decision that SGA is the MVP on Sunday night. Is that what happened?
Theodore
Not only Sunday night, but just watching the game last night in that overtime thriller versus the number one seed in the Eastern Conference, Detroit again. I know they were without Cade. I know they're without Durham. I know they were without Isaiah Stewart. But the Thunder were missing some pieces as well. J Dub didn't play Isaiah Hartenstein. But who shows up to me he SGA should be again and I said this on air on Sunday. There's level to the there's levels to this and I am never going to take anything away from Wimby, because Wimby deserves. And he will be winning these awards for a long time. But if we are going to give out the highest award in our game, which is the MVP of the regular season, I get it. Regular season. I'm going with SGA just for the simple fact minutes played. I mean, I look at Wimby's minutes, and they both missed around the same amount of time. I Believe FGA missed 12 games. Wimby has missed 15 games. 8 and 4 without SGA, 10 and 5 without Wimby. But for a while there, Wimby was on a minutes restriction. Yeah. And if you look at minutes, and this was a wild stat, LeBron has played less games than Wimby, but it has more minutes than when be right now. That's the point I'm making. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Wemby's coming off a blood clot. And look at the numbers that he put up and look at the season that they've had. And. And if. And if we do this, because this is what, you know, some of you analysts like to do.
Theodore
Yes.
Dan Patrick
Certain guys don't play defense. And, you know, did any of those analysts say anything about James Harden when he was winning mvp that he didn't play? Right. Nobody said that. Right now, all of a sudden, Luca can't play defense. Joker doesn't play defense. Jalen Brunson doesn't play defense. If we're going to use that, then Wemby defensively is an A plus, correct? Yeah. Okay. As an offensive player.
Theodore
B plus.
Dan Patrick
Okay. B plus, SGA plus.
Theodore
A minus. B plus. He's an eight A plus scorer. A minus to B plus defender.
Dan Patrick
That's being really friendly.
Theodore
Oh, no, no. He was second in steals a year ago on his way to the mvp.
Dan Patrick
There are a lot of guys who were up there in steals who aren't great defenders, Reg.
Theodore
Okay, so are you saying that SGA does not play defense?
Dan Patrick
No, I'm. I'm saying he's nowhere near what Wemby is.
Theodore
He's not an A plus for Wim. Defense. B plus in offense, maybe even. I'll give him a minus. Okay. All right.
Dan Patrick
I'm just saying Nobody talks about SGA's defense. Nobody. Now, he might be highly rated. Nobody talks about that. But I want to know where the analysts were when James Harden was considered the best player in the game.
Theodore
Yes.
Dan Patrick
And, Reg, James Harden doesn't play defense now. He probably was up there in steals. I'll bet you Larry Bird used to be up there in steals. And Larry wasn't a good defender.
Theodore
He was a great team.
Dan Patrick
Okay, okay. But I've been saying SGA is the mvp. I think he's going to win the mvp. I think Luca is the best player in the game, and I think the
Theodore
best scorer in our game. I will say that.
Dan Patrick
But he's the best rebounder scorer in a. He's leading an assistant.
Theodore
I would. No, I think that he's up there. Jokic.
Dan Patrick
I mean, Jokic. That's what I'm saying. Jokic is the best. Best player in the game, in my opinion.
Theodore
I agree, too.
Dan Patrick
Okay, but if. If you don't. If. If Wemby's not getting it this year, he's getting it next year.
Theodore
If he plays enough games.
Dan Patrick
Yes, yes. But he'll.
Theodore
I think from this point forward, SGA will win it. But starting next year, Wimby's on the clock.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Theodore
Defensive Player of the year. He's on the clock to win mvp, but also, too. Can we please see the spurs in a playoff series?
Dan Patrick
I agree. I agree.
Theodore
Okay. We're going to get.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Theodore
Mvp. And he hasn't even played one playoff game. Again, regular season. I get it, but I want to see the spurs in a playoff series.
Dan Patrick
But I don't think that MVP regular season should be predicated on how well you've done in the postseason. I. We did that to Giannis. We did that to Joker, and I don't think it's fair. It's the regular season. It's almost as if. What if. What if the spurs knock out okc, SGA wins MVP and the spurs beat
Theodore
okc, Then we can come back on here and reevaluate.
Dan Patrick
Well, then they've given the MVP to the wrong guy. Correct.
Theodore
Well, guess what? They're on a collision course. So let's find out. All I know is a dude started the season 24 1, and right now they're 18 and two since the all Star break. Again. I know The spurs are 18 and 2 or 19 and 2 as well, but I'm leaning towards. I'm not leaning. I am going with SGA as the MVP right now.
Dan Patrick
All right. You sent me some notes last night. You want to talk mvp, Braylon Mullen shot and Dan Hurley. And then you want to talk about what Duke did wrong. Okay, let's. Let's start with what duke did wrong. 10 seconds to go. Then we can get to the shot, and then we could get to Dan Hurley.
Theodore
And this is why you, in practice, whether you're at the grade school level, high School and obviously in college you work on situational basketball. Okay. And knowing time score, foul situation, there was no reason for Boozer to attempt to throw the ball over. I know all of the Yukon Huskies players were going for the steal and all that, but all Kaden had to do was hold on to the basketball escape. Dribble, dribble, left, right. They were going to foul him.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Theodore
He did not have to give up that basketball. So knowing time score, because they were up to at the time, even if he makes one or two with no timeouts left, it was going to be virtually impossible for Yukon. But when you give up the basketball, when you attempt, all it took was a deflection, which happened. Still bucket. No, in time play situational basketball. And I'm not saying they, they don't practice that at Duke. Obviously they, they coach shire that system. They do. But when you get caught up in the moment, people don't understand how big some of these moments are. In the heat of the moment, stuff happens. And I, I feel for the Boozer Boys, I feel for Carlos. It's tough. But I was telling people this too, this too shall pass.
Dan Patrick
He's only 18. You know, I felt bad that I feel bad, but I have to give UConn credit because it was a great defensive play, a pass, and Caravan had just made a tough shot. His was going to be contested. You see the trailer? Always worry about the trailer. And he finds Mullins, who has, you know, wide open from 37ft out and he was able to take a jumper.
Theodore
And if there's one player on that team that you didn't want to leave open. Yeah, was Braylon. I mean, arguably the best shooter on that team as, even as a freshman. And what a moment for him. His dad, Josh, a kid from Indiana, it's, it's a Hoosier type ending for them because that's all we do in Indiana. I'm an adopted Hoosier, so when I say we, I consider myself a Hoosier. That's all those kids do in Indiana is, is think of moments like that.
Dan Patrick
How did they lose him to ucon Red?
Theodore
It doesn't matter how they lost him. We still claim him. Okay? He gets a chance for a shot like that to come home to Indiana for the Final Four. His dad, Josh, his family, Greenfield Central where he played high school. He was Mr. Indiana Basketball. All these things were set up for that moment. And by the way, that's a logo shot, people. Yeah, I mean, that's the 35, 40 foot shot to advance your Team to the final four. Kudos to you, Mr. Mullins.
Dan Patrick
Reggie Miller on the program. It'll be the Knicks and rockets at 8 Eastern on NBC and on Peacock. Okay, then you have the Dan Hurley moment with Roger Ayers, the official. How would you describe it? And if you're the official, what would you have done?
Theodore
Wow, what a level of discretion here by the official because you could easily make a case. And I am. I'm gonna say. And sit here and say I am surprised a technical file was not called because you could have. You could have lost it on that. I understand celebrating, even jumping on the floor because there was still time left in the game and some of the Huskies were on the floor. I've seen technicals, fouls called in the college game for that. None was given. But the mean mug and the slight. Is it a headbutt? No, no, it's not head to head. Oh, they were. Were they touching one another there?
Dan Patrick
But that's not a headbutt. You and John.
Theodore
Smirked. Mean mug.
Dan Patrick
I think they rubbed foreheads.
Theodore
Okay, so they headbutted.
Dan Patrick
They didn't. Head butt. They had rubbed. They met together.
Theodore
Very surprised I was not caught. I give the. The official and officiating crew a lot of credit for swallowing their whistles because as unbelievable moment that was for Braylon Mullins for UConn basketball. It could have been mirrored in controversy if that official would have blew the whistle and gave Coach Hurley a technical for them. So that would have been two shots from anyone, I assume.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Theodore
And you could have easily lost that game. Well, by the official, Theodore, I think
Dan Patrick
that's two people in a moment, a public moment who understood each other.
Theodore
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
And that's why nothing was called.
Theodore
I think there was history there between that particular official.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Theodore
And Dan Hurley. Because again, you could easily made a case and far be it for me to support anything that Duke does. Sorry, Grant, but if you're a Duke fan, you could easily make a case. That should have been a technical foul.
Dan Patrick
Do you hate Duke?
Theodore
No.
Dan Patrick
Did you.
Theodore
Duke is. They're a lot like the Knicks. They just think they're better than everyone else. That's all. They think their brand of basketball, their style of basketball, their players are better than it. I had this conversation with Billy King all the time. One of my best friends in life, assistant coach with the Pacers. And we just go back and forth all the time about Duke basketball, the brotherhood. And I get it. I love them. I love Coach K. I love. A lot of the players, have played with a few Duke players. In my lifetime. But they just think they're better than everyone else. And that's what. That's why it kind of rubs people the wrong way.
Dan Patrick
How can the Knicks feel this way? They don't win anything.
Theodore
They've won. They've been successful.
Dan Patrick
1973, they had a good run in the 90s.
Theodore
They had a great run in the 90s.
Dan Patrick
They didn't win.
Theodore
They went to the finals twice. They knocked on the door. And not everyone could be a champion like you, Theodore. All right. We're all on your coattails.
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What.
Dan Patrick
What. What changes will the Knicks make? Are they gonna make a change?
Theodore
Well, can we see how this.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Okay.
Dan Patrick
All right. Okay.
Theodore
Plays out.
Dan Patrick
You got. You got two guys who were bad defenders in Brunson and Carl Anthony Towns. And in the playoffs, they're just going to single those guys out and go,
Theodore
adam, look, I will say this about Brunson. He leads the league and he leads his team. In charge is taken. To me, that's a form of playing defense. I'm sorry. And you just say what you want about him. I want Jalen Brunson on my team in close moments in playoff basketball, because the dude just has it. So you. You can hate on Cat all you want. I'm never gonna hate on Jalen Brunson
Dan Patrick
because I. I love Jalen Brunson. I'm. I don't want Carl Anthony Towns. Do you want Carl Anthony Towns if. If you're Jalen Brunson? You just answered my question. You just answered my question. No, the pause. You don't want Carl Anthony Towns.
Theodore
Yes, I.
Dan Patrick
That's your second option.
Theodore
He's a good. He's a good player.
Dan Patrick
Okay. He's a really good shooter. He's a great shooter, and that's it.
Theodore
But at times, he does get lost. In a lot of times, good teams and great players will find a way to put him in picking roles. And in certain situations, he's gotten a little bit better. A little bit better.
Dan Patrick
I know you got to choose your words carefully because you're running. Yeah. All the Knicks fans out there don't like you anyway. So it doesn't matter what you say about Carl Anthony Town.
Theodore
They're seeing the same thing you and I are. Yes, yes, they see the same thing.
Dan Patrick
Oh, by the way, you got a name for Vegas that the NBA might like? Seattle still gets the Supersonic.
Theodore
Oh, yes, they were. I gotta think about that one, because there's a lot of ways we can go with this. What are some of the. What are some of the Names that are being floated, you know, they're not Las Vegas.
Dan Patrick
That. Somebody said the mobsters.
Theodore
Oh, no, no.
Dan Patrick
Okay, here was a suggestion. The Las Vegas Strip.
Theodore
No, because people are going to think about strippers. No, no.
Dan Patrick
Well, don't you think about that Anyway,
Theodore
with Vegas, you don't have to be in Las Vegas. No, the Las Vegas. I can't say high rollers. No, the Las Vegas. I gotta think about this, because you could be. You can be very creative with this franchise.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you got to be careful with the whole gambling thing.
Theodore
I know.
Dan Patrick
Even though there's so much Las Vegas.
Theodore
Mobsters. Really? Come on.
Dan Patrick
You're not a gambler, are you?
Theodore
Not anymore. I mean, I used to play.
Dan Patrick
What'd you play?
Theodore
It's a waste.
Dan Patrick
I know it's a waste.
Theodore
I mean, I don't mind going there and playing roulette. You know, that's like 50, 50. Throw a few numbers out there, see if your number hits. Big deal.
Dan Patrick
Did you ever put your Jersey number out there?
Theodore
Always. I go with Jersey numbers. I go with kids, ages. I go with. I go with mj. I go with Michael. I go with Larry. Yeah.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Wait, you.
Theodore
There's a block. I go with 31, 32, 33. Charles, 34. Like when you're playing roulette, you know how you. You could do a block of numbers? I can't. See, this is how bad I am as a gambler. What's it called when you do a block or something? Poly. You could do a block of numbers.
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Theodore
So I would do 31, 32, 33, and 34. And if one of them hit, then
Dan Patrick
we're gonna make it. Right. Would you put money on 23?
Theodore
Yes, I do.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Theodore
I have.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Theodore
Yes, I do. It never hit for me.
Dan Patrick
Mike never hit. But it was you. And it was Magic. Larry and Kareem.
Theodore
Yes.
Dan Patrick
And then Charles, 34.
Theodore
Yes. Okay, that. That's my go to
Dan Patrick
Michael. Never bet on 31.
Theodore
He would never. No, he would never.
Dan Patrick
Or 11, I said, look at you.
Theodore
Look at you starting things. Oh, I would go 10 for my Olympic number. So I would do 10. 11. I did do Isaiah. 12. Was someone famous, too. I'm trying to think. 13 I did for Mark Jackson and Dan Marino. So there was blocks I would do.
Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you.
Theodore
Love you, too.
Dan Patrick
Love you, Dan. Text me again whenever you need to.
Theodore
I'll text you in the middle of the night. By the way, you responding to me at midnight sleep. Are you again? I know You're a vampire and all.
Dan Patrick
Sleep it never. No, I. I can't. My mind's racing. You know, it's always racing. All right.
Theodore
That's why we're a team.
Dan Patrick
We're a good team. Say nice things about Carl Anthony Towns today.
Theodore
I will, but he's got to rotate.
Jim 'Bones' MacKay
Rotate.
Dan Patrick
Durant's gonna get 30.
Theodore
I have the Knicks tonight winning.
Dan Patrick
Oh, you do? Okay. All right. In Houston.
Theodore
In Houston.
Dan Patrick
Jalen Brunson will take two charges tonight.
Theodore
Form of defense.
Dan Patrick
Tune in to watch Jalen Brunson take a charge tonight. Carl Anthony Towns to try in the pick and roll. That's how you send your hate mail
Theodore
to Theodore, not to me. He's the one that's killing your team, not me, guys. Not me.
Dan Patrick
Reggie will be on the call with Mike Tirico and Zora Stevenson. That'll be coming up tonight. Thank you, Reg.
Theodore
Let's love y'.
Dan Patrick
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Host: Dan Patrick
Guests/Contributors: Jim 'Bones' MacKay (NBC Sports), Reggie Miller (NBA analyst), Show team: Paulie, Cris, Theodore, Todd
This “Best Of” episode centers on high-stakes moments and personalities currently dominating the sports landscape: ongoing Tiger Woods speculation ahead of the Masters, Dan Hurley’s controversial courtside interaction with a referee, evolving narratives in the NBA MVP race, and key moments from recent college basketball and NBA games. Along the way, Dan is joined by notable guests Jim 'Bones' MacKay and Reggie Miller, contributing insight and signature banter.
This episode is a vibrant microcosm of the Dan Patrick Show—combining investigative curiosity (the evolving Tiger Woods story, Hurley’s viral confrontation), analytical debate (NBA MVP, college basketball crunch time), and convivial, inside-baseball banter. For those who missed it, expect in-depth discussion, seasoned perspective, and the delightful unpredictability that comes when sports’ biggest moments intersect with its biggest personalities.