Lexi Brown (2:02)

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Dan Patrick (2:32)

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. A lot of has been made of the Chiefs, their villains. And I keep thinking, are they villains? You know, when you talk about a villain, I think about the bad boys, the Pistons, like. Like, they were villains, but they embraced it here. You know, there's certain wrestlers who like being the villain. But, you know, what is a villain? I have the definition. But I want you to hear from Travis. Kelsey was on his podcast with his brother and talking about embracing being a villain in the Super Bowl.

Jim Gaffigan (3:08)

I love it. At one point, at one point in time, you know, it wasn't that.

Dan Patrick (3:14)

Yeah, you were the center.

Bobby Bones (3:15)

You.

Jim Gaffigan (3:16)

You guys were the darling of the NFL.

Marvin (3:17)

Yeah, I was the.

Jim Gaffigan (3:18)

Do you feel bad for him, guys? And you're not the heel. I'm. I'm just. I'm.

Marvin (3:22)

I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying doing this with the guys.

Jim Gaffigan (3:25)

Together, the guys that we have in there, because it's.

Marvin (3:28)

It's like, it just makes us even more of a family.

Dan Patrick (3:30)

Okay, that's the new Heights podcast with the brothers. A villain is a character person who is intentionally evil or harmful to others. Villains can be fictional or based on real people. So the intentional part of that. Are they intentionally evil? Are they intentionally good or great? I think they came along at a time we were like, yes, somebody other than the Patriots. And then all of a sudden, it's like, now we're waiting for somebody other than the Kansas City Chiefs. But, I mean, Patrick Mahomes, not a villain. Kelsey, Andy Reid, Chris Jones. I don't get it. I think we're tired of the story, and that's natural for sports fans. It's like, okay, somebody else. Boy, we're really rooting for Buffalo. Or we're. We're rooting against Kansas City because we want somebody else in there. Buffalo would be great. You know, Baltimore would be great. We want somebody else in there. This happens with dynasties. We get tired. Same stories, same people. Everybody's doing commercials. It's a big deal. Every game is the nationally televised game. It's. It's the big one on Sunday night or Sunday afternoon on Fox or cbs. So we're, we're so familiar with this story that that's why we wanted something else. Even the Eagles, you know, we had them in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, were very familiar with the Eagles. Now you got Saquon Barkley, okay, you can root for them. And it, I never thought I would hear, you know, the national audience saying, yeah, I guess I'll root for the Eagles. You know, it's like Notre Dame or Duke basketball, somebody other than them. Then Notre Dame became likable this year. It's like, oh, you know, there's a national audience that's going, hey, I kind of like Notre Dame this year. So the, this I'm not buying. But Kansas City should embrace it because it's there, it's real. And, you know, fans want to see Kansas City. I don't know if they want to see the Eagles win as much as they want to see Kansas City lose. They want to see what happens with Travis Kelsey when he's walking off the field. Taylor Swift, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid. But I look at this as extremely skilled football. All three phases, they, they just do it right. And I can't argue about, I can't complain about that. Do they get calls? Is the perception they're getting calls? Yes, but it's not their fault, you know, if they take advantage of the rules, then change the rules. You know, the Patriots, you could say, were villains because they cheated and they were involved in a couple of nefarious situations there. Their head coach wasn't likable. Brady we embraced because it was an underdog story. Julian Edelman, Underdogs, like, they had so many underdog stories. But then we got tired of them and then they're cheating and then all of a sudden you hated to see Brady's face because the, you know, the good looking quarterback got the cheerleader and won the championship. Bill Belichick, always grumpy even if he won. You know, we got tired of all of that. But I, I view them as villains, not the Kansas City chief. So if it, if it helps the Chiefs and Travis Kelsey and you embrace that, then great. But I don't look at them as villains. I look at them as one of the great teams of all time with what they've done, this run. Mahomes and what he's done, historical Andy Reid, what he's done to maybe be. He's the guy who couldn't win the big game, remember, couldn't win the big game and then he goes to Kansas City. No. Great. Yeah. Maybe he'll get to a conference title game. He was good at doing that in Philadelphia. Now we're looking at him, man. Guy's an offensive genius. He should be up there with Shula, Belichick, Lombardi. I mean, all the greats, and rightfully so. And Mahomes, he's going to be the greatest quarterback of all time, probably when it's all said and done. What did he do wrong? Exactly. I don't know what he did wrong. I mean, is he cocky? Does he get calls? Okay, that doesn't make him a villain. Now, that can make you root against them because they get the calls. You know, Brady got called, the greats get calls. Or the perception is they got a call and they're always on national TV. So you're seeing all this. They don't play 1 o'clock games. Not very often. Every game is magnified. Every game Monday is a referendum on that game and that team. Yes, Marvin.

Marvin (8:17)

I think for Mahomes, I think it's the people around Patrick Mahomes that makes people root against him. It's not even Patrick Mahomes himself. It's the people around him. I just leave it at that.

Dan Patrick (8:28)

Maybe referencing family members there, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. But that doesn't make him a villain. That doesn't make the Chiefs a villain. But I would say most people, if you. You're not an Eagles fan or a Chiefs fan, you're rooting against the Chiefs in the super bowl, it probably, if you did a football map, I would guess that most of the states would be rooting, maybe not for the Eagles, but against the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (8:54)

Paulie, I think your point was right when you explained what villain means. Intentional, the word intentional. If you go back to Belichick, especially the last six or seven years of that run, he was difficult with the media on purpose, and it seemed like he got more difficult. And it's us against the world. And I'm going to give you a hard time because I've got a handful of rings and he could get away with it. So the with and also the cheating accusations. Some real, some not with the Patriots. That's true.

Dan Patrick (9:19)

Villain, a character in a story who opposes the hero. A person who is guilty of or likely to commit a crime. A person who is cruel or evil. A person who is blamed for a particular evil. Certain villains, Hannibal Lecter, Norman Bates, Darth Vader, the Wicked Witch of the west. The Wicked Witch of the AFC West, Bill Lame. Beer. But hey, I don't blame you. Embrace it. You might as well. Hey. All right, now, they can't say nobody thought we would be here. You know, it's not one of those, like, their Villains are favorites as far as you're not an underdog story because it's hard to hate a villain who's an underdog. Yes, yes.

Jim Gaffigan (10:14)

Dill, I think they've also been preseason.

Dan Patrick (10:16)

Betting favorites for like six years in a row now. Yes, yes. This isn't one. One of those, oh, my gosh, heartwarming stories. It's not. But when you think about it, Mahomes was nobody in college. Kelsey was a former quarterback. He played at Cincinnati. I mean, came out of nowhere. Nobody knows where Chris Jones went to college. I think that's why when you, you start to look at Isaiah Pacheco went to Rutgers. Tyree Kill. Now, you know, you could maybe not like Tyree Kill, but they traded him away and they did a great job finding Tyree Kill. So I look at that front office. Unbelievable plug and play. Unbelievable. And the constant is your gm, your coach and your quarterback, and not in that order. It should be a story that we embrace or at least we respect. But it, it's almost like, oh, God, I. This is going to happen on Super Bowl Sunday. There'll be that moment where, oh, God, they get all the calls. It's going to happen. And I hate when it happens because then we lose sight. Even leading up to the super bowl. This is going to be a big storyline next week. Oh, the Villains. People hate us. That's okay. Or people saying, oh, they get all the calls. Are they going to change the rules in the off season? Adam Schefter joins us now. Shefty, Are they going to change the rules? Yes. Help is on the way. Like, that's what it's going to be. Instead of, these are two great teams. Really, really well run. When you look at the GMs, the talent, both sides of the ball, Yellow Chiefs are a one and a half point favorite. I mean, this is what you want. You want a Super I, you know, I used to cover the Super Bowls when it would be, how badly is the AFC going to lose? How badly are the Broncos going to lose? Oh, it's 55 to 10. You want. All right, sorry. You want competition. You want a great game. And there's so many things at stake. What would a Super bowl do for Jalen? Hurts Nick Sirianni, Saquon Barkley. We'll talk about that next hour. Add another super bowl to Andy Reid's resume or Patrick Mahomes resume. Does Kelsey retire after a Super bowl win? Like, there's a lot of great storylines here. And, you know, there are times when I can be a cynic, but, you know, I still love covering sports. I don't. I hate being the. Oh, God. They get all the calls. That's not fair. They cheat, whatever it might be. They spend more money than anybody. Like, then you. You lose sight of what we grew up wanting and we took for granted. There weren't controversies when we were growing up. I don't know if anybody said, God, I hate the packers in the late 60s. You're like, damn, they're good. Kansas City, man. They got a weird huddle with Lenny Dawson and Hank Strahan. But I like them. Joe Namath, like, that's what you grow up with. I'm okay with a, you know, a guy or a team that you want to beat, that they're the team to beat. I'm okay. You know, I grew up a UCLA fan and everybody wanted to beat ucla, but I like the fact that there was that one team you wanted to beat. The Cowboys for a while, the packers for a while. The Steelers for a while, the Niners for a while. Man, we're so lucky to have those years where you saw greatness, true greatness. Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (13:48)

Paulie, I want to ask you a back of the day question before we break. When Joe Namath was going to win the super bowl or getting ready to win the super bowl, was he beloved, embraced by the national sports fans or was he like, oh, this cocky guy from this upstart league?

Dan Patrick (14:04)

I think that since they were 18 point underdogs, that there was a, like a snickering curiosity of, damn, can't believe he guaranteed they were going to beat the Colts. And you know, he had long hair, so he looked like he was, you know, the fifth beetle. But when you watched him play, he had white shoes. And then if he was not able to play, had this big fur, white fur coat on. And so there was a curiosity. But I don't know if he was warmly embraced, I think because I grew up as an afc AFL fan, I should say an AFL fan. So I loved that they were wide open. Football, the NFL was boring. It was like three yards here and here's his sweep for four yards and there's a seven yard touchdown. Like, it was boring. The afl, it was awesome. It was like the aba. It was fun. And then, you know, same thing happened in the NBA. The NBA looked at the aba and go, man, they're doing some fun things. The NFL did that with the afl. Bring those teams in. They're having fun. The Chargers, Kansas City Chiefs, the Jets. So, you know, this just goes along. You know, this is history. Every few years, it's that guy or that team or both. And that's what's, to me, great about this. It's why I still love coming to work every day. You have these stories. They're fun. Embrace them. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Bobby Bones (17:38)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

Dan Patrick (18:21)

There was something sentimental when you, like when, when you send it, you was like, do I send the heart now?

Bobby Bones (18:27)

I don't like the color edition.

Jim Gaffigan (18:28)

It's extremely pink.

Bobby Bones (18:30)

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

Dan Patrick (18:37)

Everyone's forgotten who runs this valley. Time to remind them. Yellowstone fans, step into the Yellowstone universe. Our family legacy is this ranch and our protector of my life. Hosted by Bobby Bones, the official Yellowstone Podcast takes you deeper into the franchise that's captivated millions worldwide. Action. Explore untold behind the scenes stories, stories, exclusive cast interviews and in depth discussions about the themes and legacy of Yellowstone. You know, the first studs to settle this valley fighting was all they knew. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the ranch, welcome to the Yellowstone. Bobby Bones has everything you need to stay connected to the Yellowstone phenomenon.

Bobby Bones (19:24)

I look forward to it.

Dan Patrick (19:26)

Listen to the Official Yellowstone Podcast now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Marvin (19:34)

Let's go to work.

Dan Patrick (19:37)

Welcome to my legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with My wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilberger. We explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

Marvin (19:49)

Each week we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Billy Porter and their plus one, their ride or die as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey.

Ryan Seacrest (20:06)

Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jim Gaffigan (20:11)

This is my legacy.

Dan Patrick (20:15)

We make way for Vincent Goodwill, one of our favorites, covering the NBA Yahoo Sports, senior NBA writer, host of the Good Word Play podcast. Great to have you on. Again, not sure how you reacted to Commissioner Silver saying an idea that he liked. Not that he's pushing for it, not that it's going to happen next season. 10 minute quarters, 40 minute games. Your thoughts, Dan.

Marvin (20:42)

People come on your show and all of a sudden you ask crazy questions, you get crazy answers and all of a sudden you get aggregated because the commissioner comes on your show and behaves like he's not the commissioner, but like he's a fan that's watching the game and saying, ah, these damn games are too long. I can't stay awake all for two and a half hours. How about this? Here's a radical idea. Commissioner Silver and Commissioner Dan Patrick. How about we eliminate these reviews when I'm at an arena and These reviews take 15 minutes. I'm exaggerating slightly for something that we can only all see. I know we want to get calls, right? I know we want to. We have all these different angles and, you know, if it touched the fingertip of someone's finger when it went off of the other guy's hand, like that type of thing, there's ways you can expedite the process of the game without messing with the structural integrity and history of the game. Dan, you know me, I live in the crates. We don't have to, we don't have to shorten this. And, and how about we stop telling people that something is wrong with the game? If you're telling people something is wrong with the game, then people will start believing that something is wrong with the game.

Dan Patrick (21:56)

But his goal is international global domination, where you play this in the Olympics and you play this in the Euroleague. You know, probably seven of your top 10 players are from Europe or outside the United States. So maybe looking at uniformity there. And look, I'm not for it or against it, but I'm open to it, Dan. That's the difference. I'm open to it.

Marvin (22:20)

Dan. Vincent, why do Those foreign players play in the NBA and not in the.

Dan Patrick (22:25)

Euroleagues because they make more money over here.

Marvin (22:28)

Okay, so if this is the standard, then you set the standard here. You don't follow the standard. I believe it was the wise philosopher J.J. redick who said that last night. And I've never said those words in concert. Wise philosopher J.J. redick.

Dan Patrick (22:42)

Hey Steve, Steve Kerse said, you gotta open your mind, you gotta be open minded to this.

Marvin (22:48)

Why is it always the NBA that has to make these radical changes? Like baseball is nine innings. The NFL is.

Dan Patrick (22:55)

No, but baseball did a pitch count o'clock. Oh my God. People went crazy. They made the businesses larger. People went crazy. The kickoffs in the NFL, people went crazy.

Marvin (23:06)

Is it still 27 outs?

Dan Patrick (23:07)

Dan?

Marvin (23:08)

Yeah, okay, just.

Dan Patrick (23:10)

Paulie, would you check, is it still 27? Checking it is, yeah, 27.

Marvin (23:13)

I'm, I was, I'm just curious, is it still 27? And my thing is with the NBA as a whole, there's always this appearance that something is wrong and it has to be fixed. There's tweaks that you make, there's ways to get ahead. They're behind on this three point stuff, right? Dan? They are severely behind on all this three point stuff. But when you talk about the history, the integrity of the game. I know I'm an old young person, but I don't have a problem with the game being 48 minutes. How about this, Dan, Here's a novel concept. If the game starts at 7:30, how about the game actually starts at 7:30 and not 7:45? That'll cut off some time for TV. Wait, this is not that hard.

Dan Patrick (23:57)

Was that your Chris Rock impersonation? It will be. It kind of sounded like that. Why don't you start it at 7:30? Okay. Do you have a tweak for the three point line?

Marvin (24:09)

Two things that I would entertain. One a little more serious than others.

Dan Patrick (24:13)

Okay.

Marvin (24:14)

The corner three is such a shot that everybody aims towards, right? Because it's so much shorter than the other three point line. Can we make the line across the way? Can we widen the floor? Which we know we won't do because you got to sell those expensive tickets. So if you're not going to widen the floor, eliminate the corner three or. Dan, the best idea for me, how about we allow the hand check on the perimeter. That way you don't give up the easy switches where you have bigs running out at guards. That compromises the integrity of your defense and you give defenses a chance. It's not so much that the three point shot is taken in abundance, it's that it's the easier shot to take because defenses don't get a chance to run at you. When they do run at you, you wind up getting flagrant fouls or something like that. Because you contest the jump shot, you're not giving defenses a chance. So if you give someone a little arm, maybe they'll be more likely to explore the other real estate. There's some good real estate in the middle of the floor. No matter what the nerds tell you, a 16 foot shot is far easier than a 20 foot shot. But if you notice too, Dan, dudes are not taught to shoot that. So when they get in the 16 foot range, they throw up these crappy floaters as opposed to shooting an actual jump shot. If the game is broken, the game is broken in the way that it's being taught, not the way that it's being played at this level.

Dan Patrick (25:40)

Vincent Goodwill Yahoo Sports Senior NBA writer host of the Good Word podcast I've said for years, we need to widen the floor a little bit because the corner three, you know, what you talked about? How about we limit the number, we cap the number of threes. Your team can take at 25. Therefore, the people you want to take the three, well, the better shooters will take the threes. And now it becomes a little bit more of a economical game of when do you take those threes and when do you not?

Marvin (26:14)

My problem with that, Dan, is if a player gets on a heater, right? If Stephen Curry is on a heater.

Dan Patrick (26:20)

Then he can top 25.

Marvin (26:23)

Theoretically. Theoretically, right. But I don't want the str that was. That'd be like the NFL saying you can only throw 40 passes a game because you got to run the ball 30 times. Like, there has to be good decision making in this. Not saying you can only do this a certain amount of time. You want to be stupid and take 53 as a game, go ahead and be stupid. I'm not going to prevent you from your stupidity. It's just the league. What the league's problem is on this front, Dan, is the league's job. They assume that structurally and from an entertainment standpoint, that the executives and the coaches and the analytics people are looking out for the best interest of the game and how it looks aesthetically, that's the league's job. Those other people, they're looking for ways to cheat the system. Like Dan, when I was in college and I was, you know, broke college student, I was looking for ways to sneak inside the cafeteria when nobody was watching. That's not on. That's on me to try to beat the system. It's on you to fix the system.

Dan Patrick (27:24)

Okay, let's get to the. Those players. Give me the biggest snub. And if you give me a name, who are you taking off the roster? Because that's the way it works. Although most people just say, somebody got snubbed. Who are you taking off? Vincent?

Marvin (27:39)

I'm with you. I hate the people who say, oh, such and such got snubbed. And then we get an all star team with 20 guys.

Dan Patrick (27:44)

Right.

Marvin (27:45)

I will say that if I won't say the Mata Sabonis and Sacramento get snubbed. But to me, that's the guy that I'm looking at and I'm like, yeah, I can see. While he has a strong case leading the league in rebounding, The Kings are above.500. They've been a winning team as of late since the firing of Mike Brown. But I'm not taking off Alperin Shingon. I'm not putting Trey Young on the All Star team. Like, I'm not putting LaMelo Ball on the All Star team. If this were. I will say this, Dan. If this were an actual All Star game with great defense and you're going to need some creativity, somebody that's going to do something wild and crazy to shake it up. Give me LaMelo Ball. Give me Trae Young. But as far as how they've played, their effect on winning, what the numbers say beyond the raw statistics, I think by and large, the coaches got it right.

Dan Patrick (28:33)

Yeah, I would take James Harden off.

Marvin (28:36)

I'm not going to necessarily argue with Sabona. I think he's had a good. I think he's had a really good year in LA14 that we didn't expect much from.

Dan Patrick (28:45)

Yeah, Sacramento with Sabona, I mean, it's hard to argue those numbers. I mean, he gets. He gets overshadowed by Jokic when it comes to, oh, points and rebounds and assists. Well, nobody compares to him but James Harden.

Marvin (28:59)

I mean, I don't think this is a great James Harden year. By James Harden standards, we're talking about arguably maybe one of the top five or six shooting guards in league history. You know what I mean? Like, when you zoom out and you look at what he's done, the effect on the game, not necessarily aesthetically and what he's accomplished from a team standpoint, but when he's done, you're going to look and say, man, James Harden was really good. It's just, I think this clippers team has been much better than people expected. There was a case for Norm Powell on that very team, who's leading the team and scoring. So I'm not going to argue with you on that one, Dan. I know we come and spar a little bit. I don't really have an argument. If you say James Harden off and the Mata Sabon is on, that might be the only one, but I'm not going to the wall for it.

Dan Patrick (29:40)

Okay. Give me. Give me somebody who's moved at the trade deadline that we care about.

Jim Gaffigan (29:47)

Man.

Marvin (29:48)

Look, we all know that Jimmy Butler and this Miami Heat thing is going to, you know, look that look, Pat. All that's left for Pat Ryan to do is to kiss Jimmy and say you broke my heart and put him on a plane to Havana or something like that. Like that's all that's left.

Dan Patrick (30:04)

Little Godfather. Okay.

Marvin (30:07)

Right, right. I think that's all that's left essentially, for. He has to be. Dan, this. If you're. If there's a question asked Adam Silver, it is. Are you comfortable with these standoffs between players and teams, legacy players and legacy franchises that gum up the attention of the season? So, yeah, Jimmy Butler should be gone and Pat Riley in the Miami Heat. I wrote about it. I know people don't like hearing about it and saying about it. They are just as culpable as Jimmy Butler's activity is for this situation. They should have moved him the second they told him, we're not going to give you an extension. That's the way it goes in the NBA. If your star player does not feel appreciated, he wants an extension, you're not going to give it to him, no matter how much you're paying him. You trade him to prevent something like this because if nothing else, we know Jimmy Butler's movies. He's going. You know that. You know that, Jeff. You're probably online, Dan. There's like someone on a swing and there's a building burning behind them.

Dan Patrick (31:09)

We're going to have to wait for that movie scenario. I'm running out of time. Vincent. Vincent. Goodwill. Yahoo. Sports. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio.

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Bobby Bones (32:29)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you, text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

Dan Patrick (33:13)

There was something sentimental when you like when, when you send it, you was like, do I send the heart now?

Bobby Bones (33:19)

I don't like the color edition.

Dan Patrick (33:20)

It's extremely pink.

Bobby Bones (33:22)

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Lexi Brown (33:28)

I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. If only there were a professional WNBA player with her own podcast I could listen to. Hey, this is Lexi Brown, WNBA player and professional yapper. And this is Mariah Rose. You may know me from spilling the tea on Hoops for Hotties on Tick Tock. And we've got a new podcast, Full Circle. Every Wednesday. We're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball, and not just in the wnba, but with Athletes Unlimited unrivaled and college basketball, we've got you with analysis, inside stories, and a little bit of tea. I know you guys have seen a lot of former and current basketball players telling their stories from their point of view, and I just think it's time for the girlies to tap in. We want to share all of the women's basketball stories that you won't see anywhere else. Tune in to Full Circle, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Dan Patrick (34:33)

Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King iii, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

Marvin (34:45)

Each week, we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter and their plus one, their ride or Die, as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey.

Ryan Seacrest (35:01)

Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jim Gaffigan (35:06)

This is my legacy.

Dan Patrick (35:10)

Jim Gaffigan, currently on his Everything Is Wonderful tour. You can check out the new special the Skinny, now streaming on Hulu as we make way for that former college football great Jim Gaffigan back on the program. Oh, the memories. The older you get, the better you were in college, Jim.

Jim Gaffigan (35:30)

You know, it's, it's one of those things where I, I, you know, I literally didn't barely played, so. But it is a nice little fact that is like an asterisk next to my name and, and there's a picture of me when I walked on at Purdue, but I was literally there for two weeks, and now people are like, yeah, he's a Big Ten football player.

Dan Patrick (35:55)

I remember that game he played against Ohio State. He was incredible. Jimmy Gaffigan was all over the field.

Jim Gaffigan (36:01)

Yeah. It's just sad that I didn't play in the NFL, you know, even though I didn't really even pay play Division 1.

Dan Patrick (36:08)

A lot of hair back then, too.

Jim Gaffigan (36:10)

I had some hair back there. Those were the good old days of hair and, you know, energy, stuff like that.

Dan Patrick (36:16)

Yeah. When people see you out, let's say you're walking in New York and, you know, Sally and Tommy from Tulsa come up and go, jim Gaffigan, how much pressure do you have to be funny in the moment? Like did you have a go to joke or line that you say?

Jim Gaffigan (36:33)

You know, sometimes people will say, you look like Jim Gaffigan. And I'll go, I hope I do. That guy's good looking. You know. But otherwise, you know, usually I find that I get a lot of. If it's a really beautiful woman that comes up to me and has like a certain excitement, they usually always say, my grandfather is a big fan. So there's, it's, you know, there's going to be something to take the air out of me. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (37:07)

Is there part of you? Some comedians like to go up there and kind of in the moment make up something or degree of difficulty where they don't want to go as scripted. Are you one of those method comedians?

Jim Gaffigan (37:20)

You know, at different times, I mean, that's where I think a really good audience. When it's really flowing, that's when kind of magic hits. You know, I don't want to sound like Bono, you know, it's not like the Holy Spirit is coming down and giving me words. But there is something of when you're in front of an audience that understands your sensibility and you can kind of play and it's like joking around with friends. It's. Yeah, it really can be great.

Dan Patrick (37:54)

Give me the joke you wish you had written.

Jim Gaffigan (37:58)

Oh, I. I mean, I love. You know, Larry Miller had the five stages of drinking, which I think is really brilliant. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but he also has. Larry Miller has a very matter of fact delivery. He's kind of one of the best from that 80s era. I love George Carlin's chunk on suicide, which is just so dark and just so, so perfectly. George Carlin, he goes right now, somewhere someone's getting ready to kill themselves. You know, I mean, and just he goes through someone trying to plan their own suicide and just, you know, I can't do it that day. I got a meeting with Mavis and stuff like this. Mom's coming over. Maybe I should do it when mom's coming over. So it's just really dark and cynical and he does it with such glee. It's so amazing.

Dan Patrick (39:02)

Do you. Can you give us the five stages of, of drinking?

Jim Gaffigan (39:06)

Well, the five stages, Larry Miller's five stages, which people should Google, it's because I'm going to not do it justice is the. It's. It's a, it's. It's familiar. It's like you go, you know, you're like, you're going to go out with friends during the week you're going to have a drink and then you'll be home by blank, you know, by 8, you'll be in bed by 10. And then before you know it, then it's the second stage. You know, it's, it's midnight and you're like, all right, that's fine. If I go home right now, I can get five hours of sleep. And then the next stage is like, you're drinking some blue liquid that you. All, you know is they clean combs with it in the barbershop. And besides, you don't even need to sleep. You're going to tough it through. Then the next stage is you're driving to Florida. And then the next stage is you've met a woman who has a tattoo that says something ridiculous and she's the most beautiful woman you've ever met. And then, then he talks about like, the last stage is when you're, you leave the bar and the, the sun's out and it's just, you know, you feel like you're walking on the surface of the sun. It's, it's simply brilliant and neat and tidy and encompasses everyone who's had that regret, you know.

Dan Patrick (40:38)

Did you get into bad situations, habits when you were on the road before you got married?

Jim Gaffigan (40:44)

Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, the, for me, I actually never really. I went through a period where for about 10 years, I didn't, I didn't drink or do anything because I, you know, when I had a day job and I was taking acting classes and I was doing stand up at night, I would get sick once a month. So I was like, I'm just going to get rid of drinking. And so I, you know, really. I almost kind of started drinking when I got married, but I go through different phases, you know, now I'm, now I, I'm, I'm a bourbon drinker. And, you know, that would, you know, 10 years ago, that would never be the case.

Dan Patrick (41:32)

So have you gone on stage having been drinking?

Jim Gaffigan (41:38)

No, no, I can't really. I'm such a low energy guy that I can't really even eat that much before I go on stage because I'm so slow talking.

Dan Patrick (41:53)

He's Jim Gaffigan, the comedian, actor, writer, producer, author. Damn, that's a lot of things there. Are you truly all of those?

Jim Gaffigan (42:02)

I, I mean, you know, it's, you know, you write a book, you know, it's like, am I an author or did I, you know, complain about my kids for 100.

Dan Patrick (42:14)

He is currently on his Everything is wonderful Tour. And you can also check out his new special, the Skinny, now streaming on Hulu. How often do your kids or wife say, hey, don't make this part of your act because things happen naturally at home where you go, that's funny.

Jim Gaffigan (42:32)

Yeah, it's, there's no, I mean, first of all, I never ask. Hopefully my kids would care more about if I posted a photo that they appeared in than me referencing. And I also have five kids, so when I reference a son, it can be one of the three sons and, or if I reference a kid, it can be one of five. So there is plausible deniability for each of them. But, you know, when it comes to the wife, that's, that's a different thing. And, you know, there is, you know, you know, the days of Henny Youngman, like, take my wife. You know, that you have to craft it in a way because, you know, an audience is savvy and, you know, a guy complaining about his wife is considered hack and, and people are suspicious of it. So. But you can craft it in a way where you just kind of pile on yourself a little bit and then you can throw a, you know, something at your wife here and there.

Dan Patrick (43:41)

First comedian you saw and you said, that's what I want to do.

Jim Gaffigan (43:46)

I think I, I remember seeing Jonathan Winters on, I think Merv Griffin or something like that. But yeah, there was something really funny about him. You know, it was all self contained and it wasn't. The jokes were kind of hidden. That I thought was really interesting. But I don't know, sometimes it's, it's a blur, you know. And also being from Indiana, seeing Letterman on tv, it just, he would hit him and John Mellencamp were the only people that, like, were from Indiana that seemed to do anything. Obviously it's not true, but like, to the teenage me, it was like, wow, those are the two guys that got out.

Dan Patrick (44:36)

What was it like the first time you were on Letterman?

Jim Gaffigan (44:39)

Oh, it's, you know, it was, you know, the business has changed so much, but it was the, the threshold of status among particularly New York comedians. But I would say comedians at that time, it was, you know, the credit that everyone wanted. Because if you, you know, the first 10 years I was doing standup, obviously it's different today. But if you said you were a stand up, they would say, have you been on Letterman or the Tonight Show? And if you said no, they'd kind of look at you like, oh, you're crazy, you know what I mean? Or you're just saying that you're a comedian, so it gave you legitimacy.

Dan Patrick (45:24)

Yeah. And then to hear Dave laugh if you're a stand up comedian or if Johnny Carson brought the comedian over and you got to sit down next to Johnny, then, then you had made it like now. Yeah. He had separated you.

Jim Gaffigan (45:38)

Absolutely. And I, I feel like I was the last one of my comedy peer group that really got a late night show and it was Letterman and I was invited over to sit on the couch afterwards and I got a development deal. Dave and Worldwide Pants and Robert gave me a development deal. And, and that really shifted a lot of things because if Letterman thought you were funny, then people in the entertainment industry were much more open to viewing you as talented because it's, the entertainment industry is so risk averse. Like we have this notion that people are discovered in soda shops, but like, really that, you know, people try and eliminate any risk, obviously.

Dan Patrick (46:30)

Well, have fun on the road. Jim Gaffigan, a man of many hats. Well, he's got one hat on, but he's a comedian, actor, writer, producer, author and football legend. The new special, the Skinny, now streaming on Hulu. Thanks, Jim.

Jim Gaffigan (46:46)

Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Dan Patrick (46:47)

That's Jim Gaffica.

Ryan Seacrest (46:48)

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest. For Albertsons and Safeway. February is the month of love. And while you're spending time showing love to your family and friends, make sure you show yourself some love, too. Now through February 25, shop in store and online and save on self love items from Dove like Dove Cucumber and Green Tea Body Wash, Dove Deep Moisture Nourishing body wash, dove antiperspirants, dove shampoos and dove conditioners. Offer ends Feb. 25. Offers may vary. Restrictions apply. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

Bobby Bones (47:19)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Cassell every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Lexi Brown (47:50)

I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. This is Lexi Brown and Mariah Rose, and we've got a new podcast, Full Circle every Wednesday. We're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball. We've got you with analysis, inside stories and a little bit of tea. Full circle is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Full circle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

Dan Patrick (48:20)

Calling all Yellowstone fans, let's go to work. Join Bobby Bones on the Official Yellowstone Podcast for exclusive cast interviews, behind the scenes insights and a deep dive into the themes that have made Yellowstone a cultural phenomenon. Our family legacy is this ranch. My protector of my life. Listen to the official Yellowstone Podcast now on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

Marvin (49:02)

Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Billy Porter.

Ryan Seacrest (49:12)

Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jim Gaffigan (49:17)

This is my leg.