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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jon Stewart
Catch Jon Stewart back in action on the Daily show and in your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondents and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners, like in depth interviews and a roundup of the week's top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Virk here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Virkin Demers, Jason Demers here.
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Jason Demers
And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.
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Adnan Virk
Hey, I got a lot to say here, too, okay? Each week we'll get together to chat about the sport that we love.
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Jason Demers
Tons of guests are gonna join in too. But we're not just gonna be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies, we're talking TV, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on Le Table.
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Adnan Virk
Listen to NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justin Pennick
What's up, everyone? It's Justin Pennik from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week. On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. We're join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And you will be GLAD you did.
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AJ Stephens
$1.4 billion in NFL quarterback contracts. The untold stories behind the biggest deals in football history. I'm AJ Stephens, Vice president of Client strategy at Athletes first, introducing the Athletes first family Podcast the Quarterback Series. My co host, Brian Murphy, Athletes First CEO and I are sitting down with the agents who have negotiated contracts for Justin Herbert, Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott, Tuathungavailoa and Jordan Love. Listen to Athletes First Family Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. All quiet on the coaching carousel. And that's gonna be for a little while. This is the game that some of these teams are going to get into or maybe already in. You're waiting for Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator of the Lions, and you're waiting for Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator for the Lions. They're probably both getting jobs this upcoming season, but you have to wait. They're still in the playoffs and probably going to be in the playoffs for a few more weeks. Maybe they're going to a Super Bowl. Therefore, if you're bringing in people to interview and you're holding out hope that you may get one of these two and that may hold up maybe hiring somebody else, or maybe you do go and hire somebody else. You don't wait. You know, the Raiders, I think, have the inside track with Ben Johnson, certainly, all indications point towards that. And Aaron Glenn with the Jets. So if you're the Saints, the Bears like some of these, the Cowboys like, what are you waiting for? Who are you waiting for? And are you holding out false hope that these guys might be there? I'm going to imagine that Jerry Jones is looking at Ben Johnson because he probably wants that offense, that excitement. You know, maybe this will help Dak Prescott. You know, if he helped Jared Goff, he should be able to help Dak Prescott. But what if you don't get him? Did you fire or let Mike McCarthy walk? And really not having a plan B. And I know the betting favorite is Deion Sanders. I just don't know if that's a real story. And. And look, maybe it is. Maybe Jerry is going to get Dion. He does like those shiny objects. Look at who I brought in. But I just don't get that feeling. And I don't get that feeling from Dion either. I could see Jerry doing it. I don't know if Deon feels like that's the right place or maybe the right time for him to go and coach in the NFL. But that's why it's kind of quiet now. You haven't heard too much. Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears. The Bears have interviewed. I would feel bad if I was a candidate and I didn't get it. Interviewed by the Bears. Hey, hon, did the Bears call today? No. All right, well, let me know if they do. Ready for my zoom call here. But that's kind of the reason why it's a little bit quiet. You know what else is quiet? The Chiefs are going for a three peat. And I don't know if there's Chiefs fatigue, but it certainly feels that that way. And I know every commercial you see or every other commercial you see, it's Mahomes, it's Andy Reid, it's Travis Kelsey, Kelsey's podcast, Taylor Swift, I get it. But let's not lose sight of what they're doing or trying to do. Has never been done before. It's an oh, by the way, they're going for a 3p. And it feels after a while and it is fatigue. Like we have voter fatigue. Like there's no way Joker is going to win another MVP because there'll be voter fatigue. You know, we had this same feeling with Golden State years ago. It's like, oh, God, can somebody knock off Golden State? We get, you know, fan fatigue, voter fatigue. And I think we have Chiefs fatigue right now. Where you go, do we really care? They have the Saturday afternoon game against the Texans. If this was New England with Brady and Belichick, I can't imagine they would open up the divisional round of the playoffs at home in a 4:30 afternoon start against the Texans. Now this says a lot about the Texans, apparently. It's like they're in. All right. We got to put them on tv. You know, maybe true tv we could put him on. Yes, Paulie.
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AJ Stephens
If you look at the NFL schedule this weekend, Texans, Chiefs feel like an opening band at a big concert festival. They're on the secondary stage at 4pm and Ravens, Bills feels like the headliner.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's like Coachella. And then you're going to open up and. But here's the Chiefs. Oh, by the way. And you know, we're ready to anoint Patrick Mahomes pretty soon. As you know, the best quarterback of all time, Travis Kelsey, hall of Famer Andy Reid, hall of Famer and going for a three peat. And it's sort of like, shh. And maybe the Chiefs like this, that maybe they're not being focused. You know, we're focused on what we're focused on Lamar Jackson, maybe another mvp. Can. Can he get to the Super Bowl? How about the Lions? Maybe this is the year for the Lions. Hey, you don't want to play the Rams? Yeah, the Eagles might Be the most balanced team. And we keep talking about everybody except for the defending champs. The two time defending champs. And, and look, maybe you'll tell me if you call in 8773-DP-SHOP, if you do have that Chiefs fatigue. Why? Because even when they, they lost one game and then you know, they lost to Denver at the end of the season, but even when they're 15 and 1, what did we, we talked about they're lucky you're not going to be able to play this way in the postseason. Like we're, we're almost waiting, hoping or at least you get that feeling from people that no, not the Chiefs again. But if you have Buffalo and you have Baltimore and they make it to the Super Bowl, I think people would be thrilled, NFL fans would be thrilled if one of those two teams was there. And maybe not because you're rooting for them as much as you don't want the Chiefs. Oh gosh, here we go again. Yeah.
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AJ Stephens
Paul and I did some see some people on social media this weekend when it was Texans at Chiefs. Even though the Texans had a great week last week, it feels like the Chiefs path got easier. Either the Ravens or Bills will be gone. They don't have to face one of those two teams.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. All right, we'll come up with a poll question.
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Marvin
Yes, Marvin, this might be a Texans thing. So I just looked up divisional playoffs, Patriots versus Texans. It was on a Saturday, January 14, 2017. They played on a Saturday afternoon.
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Dan Patrick
Wow.
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Marvin
So it might be the Texans.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, maybe Texans. Okay, that's a good, good research there. Thank you. Seaton, what's poll question for the first hour? Well, let's see.
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Bobby Bones
We could start with game you are.
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Paulie
Most looking forward to watching this weekend.
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Bobby Bones
That's not Ravens.
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Dan Patrick
Bills. Oh, okay. We're taking them off the board.
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Bobby Bones
Dad, you gotta take that right off the.
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Dan Patrick
I mean that's the best game of the weekend for sure. Okay.
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Bobby Bones
But you have Texas Chiefs, commanders, Lions, Rams, Eagles.
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Justin Pennick
Those are, those are all pretty good.
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Bobby Bones
I would say. I would put Rams Eagles towards the top of that. But Commander's Lions is a damn game.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. That to me seems like that's the, the marquee matchup and that's a, that's a Saturday night game. But it feels like, you know, it's still Ravens in the Bills because of those two quarterbacks. And we keep waiting for one of these guys to win a big game. Now Josh Allen has won a few more big games in the playoffs than Lamar has, but it feels like that one we're all tied up with who's going to win. And, you know, is that going to be the MVP game that you. We're. Whoever wins, you're going to go, yep, they should be the mvp. Even though it's a regular season award, feels like we're attaching a whole lot to that matchup with these two. Yeah, Paulie.
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AJ Stephens
It does feel like Commander's Lions is great because it's two great stories. The Lions, everyone kind of roots for them, even if you don't love them or grow up on them. And Jaden Daniels and the Commanders, like you said a couple weeks ago, he made them likable. You know, Notre Dame's now likable because of Marcus Freeman and whatever. But the Commanders being likable, that's been a long time coming.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's a great story. I don't think you root against either one of these teams unless you're in the NFC east and you don't like Washington. But this is not. This is not your typical Washington team that you wouldn't like. I think the fact that they got out of. Out from underneath Dan Snyder's stink. The Lions are still likable. But that could change, though, you know, if they win the super bowl. And then Dan Campbell's doing all these commercials. You know, Jake from State Farm is there with Dan Campbell, and they're biting kneecaps or whatever. But Jared Goff. Jared Goff does an insurance commercial, and this is the only thing I've ever seen him in. And it's a. It's a woman whose last name is the same as his. Is that that Golf Insurance company? Marvin.
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Marvin
The law firm.
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Dan Patrick
Law firm, yeah. Okay. Okay. Now, is that. Is he related to this woman? Because I. I see the signs where he's standing next to her, and he's got kind of a generic football jersey. I mean, it's not one of those. Hey, you're on State Farm. It's. Yeah, I'm with a law firm. And it just so happens it's the woman who I think runs the law firm, has the same last name. I don't know if he's related to her. Yes, Todd.
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Marvin
Yeah, it's Brooke Goff. The billboard's all over the place. She did stuff with Mike Tyson and other celebrity types. She's got quite a racket going.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, thank you, Todd. This first hour brought to you by. It seems to be a legitimate business.
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AJ Stephens
Yeah, it does skew negative when you say racket.
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Marvin
He's very successful, this guy. Commercials all over tv.
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Dan Patrick
She is a Lawyer.
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Bobby Bones
I'd rather not get sued for calling her a crook.
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Dan Patrick
What kind of racket you run into here? This first hour, brought to you by Rapid Radios, official walkie talkie of the Dan Patrick show, offering national LTE coverage. No subscriptions ever. A great alternative for kids or parents. Go to rapidradios.com for 60% off and free shipping. Big game coming up tonight. It's a rematch. You want new blood? You got it. It's the Cavs and Thunder. So we're in the middle of January. At what point do you go, all right, I guess they're legitimate. You know, I said that the Rockets were going to be the surprise team in the west starting this season, and they're second in the west right now. But you might be going, well, all right, they're 27 and 12. Well, considering that they lost at least 60 games the previous three seasons, this seems like a pretty good turnaround for The Houston Rockets. 27 and 12. But the Cavs in the east, you probably still say, I take the Celtics. Or if you say, oh, the Thunder. Now, I don't know who else you would go. Now you might say, can the Rockets be the best team? Who else in the west, where you go, they're going to be formidable. You know, Golden State. I thought maybe they make a trade here at some point, but you start to look at some of these teams and you go, how many teams can win the championship this year? You know, Miami, with their mess with Jimmy Butler, the Bucks. It feels like we're either in or out, you know, depending on the week. I did watch Wembanyama again last night. Oh, my goodness. He's spectacular. How he didn't win defensive player of the year last year. I am. I am stunned. Stunned. John Morant had a dunk over Wembanyama. Now, it didn't count, but it was. It's going to count for something. I mean, that is a poster if you see it. And John Moran is going up against Wembanyama and he dunks. But it. It didn't count. It did count for me when I watched it, because I can't erase it from my memory bank. Yes, Marvin.
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Marvin
So I was going to ask that question last night when I saw the dunk. All right, so play the day. I'm thinking it's that I know it didn't count, but we don't do play of the day that counted. It's just play the day, period.
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Paulie
Right?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but wembanyama, he had 13 points, 12 rebounds, and he had eight block shots. This is the stat of the day. Chief Span Melissa Etheridge. Their stat of the day brought to you by Panini America Womenyama is. He's just figuring this thing out and it is remarkable. I know, I know. I keep throwing verbal bouquets at him. You know, he's just, he's young and is still figuring out the game. And that's what's scary. You see him do things and you go, that's not normal. That's not normal. Both ends of the floor. He's probably the best two way player in the NBA in my opinion. Now, you might have somebody else, Marvin, you might suggest somebody else. But if I look at what he does on the defensive end, I don't think there's anybody who can guard the top of the key and in the paint at the same time. And he does that. I mean, he's averaging 27 a game. Yes, Marv.
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Marvin
Actually, DP, I completely agree with you. I don't even really think it's close as far as the best two way player in the game. But my question is, when do people start hating him? Year four, Year five, if he doesn't start winning championships. Because we've done this with other people too.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think we're there yet. And he's in San Antonio, so he's not featured. He's not on Commerce. Like he, he hasn't gotten to the point of being an irritant. It's, I mean, the reason why people had a problem with the spurs, usually because Greg Popovich, you know, he was gruff, but that was it. Like Tim Duncan. What did you dislike him for? Being? Boring. Boringly great. And people did, they're like, oh God, the Spurs again. It's weird how we don't embrace. I grew up when you had dynasties, but I don't think we like dynasties anymore. You know, you don't want that one team where you go, that's the team to beat. It's like you want new blood in there constantly. You know, we, we had patriot fatigue, but it was patriot greatness that was right in front of us. Or if you're watching and you're watching tennis, not him again, not her again. But like, we shouldn't lose sight of greatness that's there. You may not like it because they beat your team, but if you don't have a dog in the fight, just to appreciate what the Chiefs have been doing and replaceable parts, that's what's amazing. It's really, really difficult for a variety of reasons to stay this Good for this amount of time. Yeah.
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AJ Stephens
Paulie, I saw an article a few years ago. I think it was Sports Business Journal or one of those Forbes leagues do best when there's dynasties, they get the best ratings when there's dynasties, the Bulls, the Warriors, NFL baseball. Because it makes it easy for the average fan or casual fan to consume the sport. They don't to relearn the stars or relearn the teams. They said it's actually worse when there's a new title winner every year when whatever major sport there is.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Because you, you're now aware, you're familiar with these players, with this team, with this coach, and therefore you can watch a game and either be fascinated by watching them or be rooting against them. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino.
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Justin Pennick
And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're.
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Dan Patrick
Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.
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Justin Pennick
You can catch us weekdays from 5.
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Dan Patrick
To 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.
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Justin Pennick
On Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app.
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Dan Patrick
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?
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Justin Pennick
We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.
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Dan Patrick
We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss.
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Justin Pennick
And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too.
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Dan Patrick
Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.
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Justin Pennick
I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive.
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Dan Patrick
Show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.
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Justin Pennick
And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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Dan Patrick
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Marvin
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Paulie
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Dan Patrick
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We're we talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.
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Dan Patrick
There was something sentimental when you, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?
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Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
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Paulie
It's extremely leaping.
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Bobby Bones
Listen to Lots to say With Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondence and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Virk here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast and the National Hockey League. It's NHL unscripted with Verk and Demers.
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Jason Demers
Hey, I'm Jason Imers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
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Adnan Virk
I love you, by the way. On NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?
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Jason Demers
Yeah, I just met you today, but we're gonna have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what, Tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
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Adnan Virk
Yeah, you're soon gonna find out we're not just hockey talk. We're into all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear in NHL.
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Jason Demers
Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Ferkie.
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Adnan Virk
That's short of cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justin Pennick
What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennik from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.
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Dan Patrick
He is Chris Collinsworth, who used to be quick. He used to be fast. Collinsworth used to be fast. That was a long, long time ago. How fast do you think you could run a 40 yard dash?
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Paulie
Last time I ran a 40 yard dash, my kids got me in the backyard. So we were talking about it. So they were claiming they could beat me, right? And I said, no way. They were like, they're teenagers. So this is probably 15 years ago. And so we lined it up. We had time trials, we had the whole thing. And I just, I literally Warmed up for a half an hour because I had sprinted forever. I warmed up for a half an hour, came out there. I made it 38 and a half yards before I pulled my hamstring. So I have no idea. I fell across the line. It was the worst moment of all time. But I was only one and a half yards away from having an official time for you, so I have no idea.
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Dan Patrick
Is speed more important than quickness as far as being a wide receiver?
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Paulie
I think there's both. You know, I think there's, there's people that Randy Moss obviously could just run by you. Some of these big guys. Terrell Owens, I always thought I didn't know what his 40 yard dash time was, but it didn't matter. You know, the 40 yard dash really comes down to the first 10 yards. Whoever is the quickest getting off. So a lot of times the smaller receivers can get off the line of scrimmage in that first 10 yards and you get a great time. But what I see out of the league is that a lot of these long legged 6, 4, 65 guys that can build up speed, what really matters is when you hit the jets around 25 yards, you know, when you make your move and you're close and now you got to run by those guys. And that's when some of the real stars of the league really emerge because then it's just like. So that's my support for the tall receivers in the league.
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Dan Patrick
But how do you explain Cooper cup and Puka nukua who aren't 44 guys but they're extremely successful.
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Paulie
Well, I think Cooper is and I love watching him run and I can't believe I was so stupid. I never thought of any of this stuff when I was playing. But he does a little triple move that is just awesome. So it's like dun, dun, dun. And then the DBs just get frozen. So it's not like he's. They're fearing him running past him as much as they, they have no idea which one of these, Isaac Curtis could do that a little bit. Dan, you remember him, my old teammate and he had this thing that he got from Paul Warfield and it's interesting that I couldn't, I didn't do it well. But. And seeing Cooper and now he's teaching at the Puka. But Puka for the most part I think is a fullback playing wide receiver. You know, when you watch the Rams play, how many early downs start would they just get him the ball in the flat and he runs over somebody in the Second and three and so. But he's, he's a. He's a tremendous, tremendous player. And both those guys, the magic of that team has always been the play action, the run game, the bootlegs off of it, but the ability of those two guys to make key blocks. I'm just going back and watching the first Rams Eagles game and a lot of the big plays that they had in the running game came from those two guys blocking.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, how do the Rams win this game?
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Paulie
I think. I think they can. Matthew Stafford has to be great. He just has to be great. I mean, he is. He can handle anything. He's not going to get hit. He's not going to let these guys just beat on him. Now they did get him a couple of times, but Haven Stein wasn't playing right tackle. It was McLendon last time, but he's tremendous. Getting the ball out of his hands and not having Nicoby Dean is. Will hurt Philadelphia. He really flashed in that first game. A couple of big tackles for losses and, and big hits on the quarterback. He ran over Kyron Williams one time on a pass rush, so they'll miss him. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see this thing come down to a lot of man coverage on the back end. I mean, there's just no way that they can let the Eagles just overpower them again with Saquon Barkley. Right. So that means you got to get up, you got to try and stuff the run. You just got to be able to get after their run game. And whatever happens in the passing game, happens in the passing game.
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Dan Patrick
It feels like every year there's a surprise in the divisional round. So if that's the case, give me the surprise this weekend.
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Paulie
Honestly, I probably would have said our game. And I think that people, and rightfully so, look at the Eagles as a team that very prominent and could easily win the Super Bowl. And it's the kind of team that I like too. If I build a football team, I would build the Philadelphia Eagles. I would build power on the offensive line, I would build power on the defensive line. Some these big guys. Jalen Carter is unbelievable. I don't know that people give him enough credit for what he does. He just. He draws double teams from every team every single time and if you single block him, he blows you away. That all being said, I think what we saw out of the Rams last week gives them a chance because they really were able to play man coverage against a very good Vikings passing game, which, which surprised me a little bit. They've really grown in the secondary on the back end with what they've been able to do. And Matthew Stafford has the ability to offset a pass rush. He has the ability with his brain, with his experience, to not give up those big plays. Now, having said that, the last two series that I watched of this first game between these two, they took sacks and they couldn't block those guys inside. So it's, you know. But I do think when you have a veteran quarterback that has the ability to dictate a game, not get hit, not give up big sacks and not throw interceptions, that it does give you a chance.
- [30:35]
Dan Patrick
Is it mandatory that when the Texans make the playoffs, they must play the first game in the playoffs as early on Saturday afternoon as possible?
- [30:45]
Paulie
Apparently so. The ESPN game, as we used to call it back in the day. But, you know, the Texans were impressive last week. I mean, there's just, you just have to say what it is when they, when they get it going, especially on the defensive side, you know, they have the ability to go get your quarterback. And the problem is that it means short of Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs just not liking all this time off. And I can't imagine a veteran team wouldn't, but maybe they're just not razor sharp. But I've been to so many Andy Reid practices over the years. These guys practice hard. I mean, it's not like when, when you, when they get time off, it's not like they're in flip flops walking around like the 49ers used to do when they were whooping our butts all the time. But they, they come out there and, and they are practicing and they're getting after it. So generally there's a reason why Andy's teams do fine after buys.
- [31:50]
Dan Patrick
It feels like here's a team that could go for a 3P, but I think it's being undersold. I think there is Chiefs fatigue with the media that, you know, if you look at the storylines, Chris, we're talking about anything but the Chief. Now, granted, it's the divisional round against the Texans, but we're focusing on the lines. Jaden Daniels, Josh Allen, you know, versus Lamar Jackson. Like, we're, we're going out of our way to make sure that we're talking about anything but the Kansas City Chiefs. Why? Why is that?
- [32:25]
Paulie
Because they've converted into a defensive team. Not that they aren't capable, but when we all, like, were overwhelmed watching the Kansas City Chiefs, it was because Tyree Kill and company and they were Taking the top off and they're throwing bombs. And Mahomes was, you know, it was just insane. They were scoring points all over the place, and it's really not what they are right now. They are still fully capable of doing that, but they got the 15 and 1 this year because of the way they played defense. And honestly, it was the same thing yesterday or last year that they really just played great defense. Chris Jones and company in there, those guys, they win the game on the defensive side. And then we remember Mahomes making a play or Kelsey making a play at the end of the game and scoring a touchdown. And. But you go back to that Ravens championship game last year, I mean, it was a fist fight. It was a violent, violent football game. And I think that's what's missed out of this. When you watch Kansas City, where people talk about them is, you know, Philadelphia, I consider a violent football team. I think Kansas City is, too. They've got that interior wall inside with those great center, and two guards physically can come off the ball. And defensively, I think they're as good as anybody in the league.
- [33:53]
Dan Patrick
We're talking to Chris Collinsworth, NBC Sunday Night Football analyst, and he'll be on the Call with Mike Tirico. Melissa Stark. That will be Sunday at 3. It's the Rams and the Eagles. Who has more to gain in Buffalo between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
- [34:11]
Paulie
Who. I think that Josh has at least played well in really big playoff games. I mean, the fact that they lost that game to Kansas City that year, when he makes that brilliant comeback and with 20 seconds left or whatever was Mahomes comes back, that really wasn't on him. Right. Lamar is coming off a year in which probably wins the MVP again. I don't know how that votes. Just trying to read the tea leaves of some of that stuff, but it could be his third mvp, and the only thing he has not done is tear it up in the postseason. And so you're sitting there and as a coach, what do you tell them? It's like, do you tell them, all right, Lamar, let's put the ball in your hands. Let's go. You just be the man? Or do you just say, hey, Lamar, just do what you've done? Right. We've got King Henry. Let's be patient, let's do this? Don't feel like you've got to take it in your own hands, you know? So it's. It's kind of a quandary. So I'm. I'm going to say Lamar, I think as great as he has been in the regular season, he kind of needs to stamp it a little bit with a, with a Super bowl championship. And this team, they're fully capable, more.
- [35:29]
Dan Patrick
Valuable off season addition Derek Henry or Saquon Barkley?
- [35:36]
Paulie
I think Saquon, Derek Henry has been really good and he's got the compliment of Lamar, but Saquon has the complement of this offensive line and it's one of the things that, that I really, I mean, it's so I played receiver, I've played every position in the NFL basically at one time or another, but started as an offensive lineman. But this really highlights the, the what this offensive line has been over the years, right? I mean, this has been a dominant force for the Philadelphia Eagles. It was when they won the championship. It is now. If they win another championship, it'll be for that same reason, offensive and defensive lines. And I, I, I think that Saquon, behind this group has really just shown what they have been able to do over the years. And, and if they win, it'll be Saquon running the ball. I, I think they're a very good passing team, but if they win, it'll be because they overpower teams the rest of the way.
- [36:45]
Dan Patrick
Why is Mike McCarthy out of the job in Dallas?
- [36:52]
Paulie
I gotta say, that one surprised me a little bit. You know, if, if he had won so three out of four years, he won 12 games, right? Maybe he didn't, he couldn't beat the 49ers in the playoffs. And, and that's what it was. Unfortunately, the decision year was the year that he didn't win 12 games in, in Dallas. So, and, and Jerry Jones. I, I don't know. I, I just keep watching this Deion Sanders thing, you know, and you go, okay. I mean, you know, Dion's done great in Colorado. He's, you know, this is, we've got a new age of football. We're seeing much more of a college kind of football game happening. Quarterbacks that run, all this stuff. Maybe Dion's the perfect new age head coach too, but that whole thing is, that whole dynamic now is getting really, really, really interesting. So what do you think?
- [37:52]
Dan Patrick
It's real, Chris. You think that Dion possibly to the Cowboys is real?
- [37:59]
Paulie
I think anything with the Cowboys is possible. I mean, come on, how many times do we watch this show? And it is a show. I mean, it is when you're, you walk in that facility, you walk in that stadium and the cheerleaders and, I mean, from the moment you arrive in Dallas, you understand it's not a football team. It is a show. And the ringmaster is Jerry Jones and whatever, whatever he really believes sells more tickets to the show and, and creates more wins. So you sell more tickets to the show. He's going to do it. Do I think Dion can do it? I do, but I'm not sure. Like, but I got to be honest, you know, there's a reason Lamar Jackson was the last player picked in the first round. There were 31 other teams that weren't sure that he was going to be able to do what he's doing. So I'm not saying that Deion can't. We just haven't seen a former player go coach a couple of years in college football and go be head coach of the Cowboys and find a way to make it work with Jerry as the. Is the ringleader. So it's everybody that I know that's ever been head coach of the Cowboys, they'll tell you it's different. You know, it's not. It's not like being in Green Bay is not like being, you know, it's different. There's more to being the head coach in Dallas and just being the head coach.
- [39:33]
Dan Patrick
Fill in the blank. Justin Herbert is blank.
- [39:38]
Paulie
Extremely talented. I, I didn't think that they had enough this year. I was actually impressed that. I mean, they went out in a terrible way for him. You know, that was the, that was not a good performance by him at all in the playoffs. But I, I think they've set the table a little bit. You know, they've established what Horrible wants them to be. They need help at receiver. They just don't have enough right now to be able to do really what they want. They're not going to. They can't go compete with the Philadelphia Eagles of the world, you know, and just go bang heads in there. So year one, take them to the playoffs. Yeah, I think it's successful and I do think he'll come back. I think it was a bad performance.
- [40:29]
Dan Patrick
Before I let you go, Al Michaels joining us. Al, would you give Chris a little taste of maybe what they used to share? Jackson drops back there and there he goes. We, Chris, we, we did that to Al Seton did his Al Michaels in person impersonation. And Al goes, do I sound like he didn't like it? But now whenever you hear him, and there he goes.
- [41:00]
Paulie
He has a great way of changing gears and, and at the end of it, and he's just about out of.
- [41:08]
J
Breath.
- [41:12]
Paulie
And there he goes. We all steal from each other, right? I mean, I. I take the best of you and whoever al you incorporated in a little bit and everything you do.
- [41:26]
Dan Patrick
Have fun this weekend. Thank you, Chris. Good to talk to you.
- [41:29]
Paulie
You too, D.P. see you, man.
- [41:31]
Dan Patrick
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
- [41:42]
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.
- [42:25]
Paulie
There was something sentimental when you, when you send it.
- [42:28]
Dan Patrick
It was like, do I send the heart? Now?
- [42:31]
Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
- [42:32]
Paulie
It's extremely pink.
- [42:34]
Bobby Bones
Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [42:41]
Jon Stewart
Catch Jon Stewart back in action on the Daily show and in your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondents and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners, like in depth interviews and a roundup of the week's top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [43:15]
Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Virgin Demers.
- [43:23]
Jason Demers
Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy, oh boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
- [43:32]
Adnan Virk
Say I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right.
- [43:40]
Jason Demers
Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what, Tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
- [43:51]
Adnan Virk
Yeah, you're soon going to find out we're not just hockey talk. We had all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, football, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear in NHL.
- [44:00]
Jason Demers
Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Ferkie.
- [44:03]
Adnan Virk
That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [44:15]
Justin Pennick
What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Penic from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything, we break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.
- [45:05]
AJ Stephens
Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm A.J. stephens, Vice President of Client strategy at Athletes Verse, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contracts. Tracks introducing the Athletes First Family podcast, the Quarterback Series. Along with my co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO, we're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension and Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract that sent shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tungavailoa, and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [46:10]
Dan Patrick
I saw a tweet from Ed Werder and I of course, always reading Ed Werder's tweets and had something to do with the Cowboys. Ed is a Cowboy insider for WFAA TV in Dallas. Had to do with Dion, had to do with Jerry Jones and maybe, maybe this is actually in the on deck circle and could happen. And Edward are kind enough to join us. So you piqued my interest with this. So explain what your tweet was all about.
- [46:39]
J
That was my one and only interest in tweeting, Dan, was to get your attention.
- [46:44]
Dan Patrick
Thank you.
- [46:44]
J
And to have an opportunity to make a long awaited guest appearance on the show. You want to play golf again, let me know.
- [46:51]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
- [46:53]
J
I've been, I've been obviously following the Cowboys, you know, for a long time, but, you know, certainly throughout this season and extending that coverage through the dismissal of Mike McCarthy, which I think surprised a lot of people, even those of us who cover the team on a regular basis. And, you know, when you start configuring a list of potential candidates to be the next head coach, only in Dallas do you have to make sure to include Deion Sanders and Jason Whitten, former, you know, Cowboys tight end great, who Jerry is enamored with, who has only coached at the high school level. Regarding Deion, obviously we know that he has not yet formally interviewed for the job. The Cowboys have extended invitations to Leslie Frazier and Robert Sala to be the first two to interview formally for the job. But Dion told Adam Schefter the other day that Jerry Jones reached out to him and they discussed the job and everything. I continue to be told, Dan, is that Jerry is interested. It was described to me as he's enamored with the idea. Obviously, it's hard to imagine any coaching candidate who could create more interest, someone that Jerry could more sell to the fan base here, which needs to happen and make Jerry more money than Deion Sanders. I mean, he won a Super bowl here as a player. So there are also people around Deion who tell me that he's being urged by his supporters in Colorado to take the job and that they believe if Jerry ever does offer him the job that he will take, that he has an extension to remain at Colorado on his desk that he hasn't even looked at as he considers these other possibilities. But, you know, I mean, there are also people close to Dion who tell me they don't see it happening, but they've seen things happen with Jerry Jones that they didn't expect to happen before. And he did hire Barry Switzer, so you can't rule anything out. He's the most unpredictable owner in the NFL on any subject, especially this one.
- [49:10]
Dan Patrick
But do you think that Jerry Jones had somebody in mind when he was willing to let Mike McCarthy leave?
- [49:16]
J
I assume that Jerry's done this enough times. This is his eighth time that he knows before you let somebody who has some value and has proven himself to the degree, you know, Mike McCarthy has as a head coach in this league with two different franchises, that you're sure you're going to get somebody who you think is going to do a better job.
- [49:39]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I mean, for some reason. And I was talking to Tim Callishaw, of course, he covers the Cowboys, and he said Dion was treating this as if he was offered the job. Like, his response was, hey, I'm honored or humbled or whatever, but I got work to do, a college, as if he was getting the job offer. And. And then I thought, well, maybe is Jerry doing Dion a favor by, hey, we maybe have.
- [50:04]
Paulie
We.
- [50:04]
Dan Patrick
We have some interest here, and that helps him even more with that extension at Colorado. But you think this is real? This is. This is something that could happen?
- [50:13]
J
I think it has merit. And I think when we're talking about Jerry and Dion, you always have to be wary of how this conversation could benefit each of them, and it certainly does. But I think there is a possibility of it happening. I mean, Dion apparently told Adam Schefter that he doesn't need to use the Cowboys as leverage to get what he wants at Colorado, that he's him, and that there's probably a lot of truth in that, given the effect he's had on that program and the attention he's brought to it and the money that's been dedicated to the program since then. But, yeah, and I think a key figure, if this were to go very far, would be Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike Zimmer was a defensive coordinator here this most recent season under Mike McCarthy, coached under five head coaches in Dallas, and he has not decided what he's going to do in terms of whether he wants to continue coaching or not. I think a lot of that is dependent upon what direction Jerry decides to go in hiring the next head coach. And he would certainly, almost certainly, Dan, be a part of it if Deion Sanders is the coach, because Mike is very close to Deon. He coached him when he was here. He was close, so close to his program at Jackson State and then at Colorado. That There were people speculating that Zimmer was going to be the defensive coordinator of Colorado. That never happened. But Zimmer made it clear during the season when we spoke to him that he does frequently still speak to Deion Sanders. So I'm sure he would be heavily involved in that. And it's interesting that he has made no mention or. Or offered no decision on his future.
- [51:50]
Dan Patrick
Okay. But we've talked about Jerry, and he hires coaches that are submissive and malleable, and that's not Dion. So is. Is Jerry finally maybe coming around to that? I need to have somebody be a head coach, act like a head coach, and not be looking over their shoulder constantly.
- [52:10]
J
Well, do you think that Jerry would think that there's not room for him to influence Deion Sanders, who's never coached at the NFL level, on how he views his best route to being successful? I think Jerry would see this as a very. A very positive opportunity for him to influence the way Deion Sanders coaches Jerry's football team. Now, it was interesting that during the season when Jerry was first asked about Deion, you know, he praised him as one of his favorite players of all time and his, you know, his competitiveness that he brought to the team. But he also sort of dismissed his value as a head coach in the NFL because he said what Deion offers now, that's most attractive and most influences his success at CU in the college level is his ability to recruit, and that's not going to be a significant part of his success in the NFL should he opt to coach in the NFL. And. And that's true. I mean, you. He could influence free agents, but the Cowboys are. Have not been heavily involved in free agency in recent years to their own detriment, quite honestly. You know, they were the last team to sign a player four out of the last five years. So it was interesting to me that Jerry thought that was the most unique ability Dion possessed and that it would not be a significant factor in whether he succeeded at the NFL level.
- [53:36]
Dan Patrick
Did Mike McCarthy won out?
- [53:40]
J
That's not the sense I got. I mean, when the season ended, he was unequivocal and very public about the fact that his goal in the next few days was to remain in Dallas. He said he had made an investment in Dallas, the Cowboys had made an investment in him. I think his family wanted to be here. I Sincerely think Mike McCarthy wanted and expected it to work out, and I don't know that we fully understand the real reasons it did.
- [54:08]
Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you, as always, Ed. Thank you.
- [54:11]
J
Thanks, Dan.
- [54:13]
Dan Patrick
Ed Werder covers the Cowboys for WFAA TV in Dallas.
- [54:19]
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.
- [55:02]
AJ Stephens
There was something sentimental when you.
- [55:04]
Paulie
When you send it.
- [55:05]
Dan Patrick
It was like, do I send the heart?
- [55:08]
Paulie
Now?
- [55:08]
Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
- [55:09]
Paulie
It's extremely pink.
- [55:11]
Bobby Bones
Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [55:18]
Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondence and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed, listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [55:57]
Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Virkin Demers.
- [56:05]
Jason Demers
Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman two turned NHL Network analyst, and boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
- [56:13]
Adnan Virk
I love you, by the way. On NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?
- [56:22]
Jason Demers
Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what, tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
- [56:32]
Adnan Virk
Yeah, you're soon going to find out. We're not just hockey talk. We into all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear on NHL.
- [56:41]
Jason Demers
Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Ferkie, that shirt of Kazarakis.
- [56:46]
Adnan Virk
Listen to NHL unscripted with Vir and demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [56:57]
Justin Pennick
What's going on everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.
- [57:46]
AJ Stephens
Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm A.J. stephens, Vice President of Client strategy at Athletes Verse, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contracts. Tracks introducing the Athletes First Family podcast, the Quarterback Series, along with my co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO, we're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension and Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract that sent shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold story stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tungavailoa and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [58:51]
Dan Patrick
He's Drone bet Jerome Bettis, the Hall of Fame running back won a Super bowl and a former running back out of Notre Dame 1993 draft, I believe. Do you see your jersey behind Me, I see it.
- [59:04]
Marvin
I love it. I love. That's old school right there.
- [59:07]
Dan Patrick
That's Rams Jerome Bettis.
- [59:09]
Marvin
Yeah, that's where.
- [59:12]
Dan Patrick
You want that back? Do you want that back?
- [59:16]
Marvin
No. Hey, I appreciate you displaying it proudly. I appreciate that.
- [59:23]
Dan Patrick
How many jerseys do you have? Do you collect jerseys?
- [59:27]
Marvin
I do have. I do have some. Yeah. I've got a. I've got a few. But. But what I did was I collected them as I was playing from different players. You know, we would trade jerseys and stuff like that. So I didn't do much like buying jerseys or anything like that. It were all given to me at one time or another.
- [59:47]
Dan Patrick
All right, give me an idea who you have. What jerseys?
- [59:51]
Marvin
I mean, my. I guess my pride and joy would be Jim Brown. I mean, I didn't play with him, but he, you know, he signed it and everything for me. Marshall Falk. I'm trying to think. Barry Sanders. It was a lot of running backs, as I think about it, but the problem is I don't have them displayed. My wife didn't let me put any of my jerseys up in the house, so I. So wait, wait, wait.
- [60:24]
Dan Patrick
You bought the house? Bus it. You bought that.
- [60:27]
Marvin
I know. Here, here's what you got to understand. It's some battles that's not worth fighting. And you, you gotta know, and I, I'm smart enough to know that was not a fight that I was willing to put out a lot of capital on.
- [60:47]
Dan Patrick
Okay, but do you have defensive players that you swap jerseys with?
- [60:53]
Marvin
No, I've got. I swap. I swapped with Erlacher. His shoes, our shoes. Like in the last. One, last playoff games, we. We traded shoes. So that was pretty unique. But it was one of those one time things. I didn't do that very often.
- [61:14]
Dan Patrick
Alrighty. Let's start with your alma mater. What do you expect to happen on Monday night?
- [61:21]
Marvin
I expect to be a very close game. I think a lot of people are thinking it's going to be a blowout. It's. I don't, I don't see that being the case. I think when you look at the teams that Ohio State struggled with, the team that had a lot of physicality, and I think that's what Notre Dame brings to the table. Physicality. At the point of attack, they're going to run the football. They're going to be physical on defense. Now, I will say we're at a bit of a disadvantage because, you know, our best defensive lineman, he's. He got hurt, you know, in the first playoff game. And so we don't we're not as strong as we were up front. That's a little bit of an issue. But, you know, we, we played them a couple years ago and you know, back to back years or one after the other, and they were competitive football games. Right. We lost there at the end of both games. And so it tells you that we can play with them. That's not the issue. The key is we can't give up big plays on, on defense, and we have to create some big plays on offense. I don't see us going 80 yards down the field every single drive. So we've got to open that offense up a little bit and throw it down to be successful.
- [62:39]
Dan Patrick
You're going to the game?
- [62:41]
Marvin
Yes, definitely. It's in Atlanta and I live in Atlanta, so there's no way I would not be at that one.
- [62:48]
Dan Patrick
And is your son going to Notre Dame?
- [62:50]
Marvin
My son is enrolled, yes. So he's a, he's a, a mid year freshman. So he. We literally just dropped him off last weekend at Notre Dame, so we're real excited for him.
- [63:03]
Dan Patrick
Did you cry when you dropped him off?
- [63:06]
Marvin
No, I didn't cry when I dropped him off. Fortunately for us, his big sister, she goes to Notre Dame as well. So it gave us a sense of. Well, gave me a sense of comfort knowing that his big sister was there on campus in Kenneth. My wife, on the other hand, she left a day or so after me, so I. There was some crying. I do understand in that department.
- [63:36]
Dan Patrick
He's Jerome Bettis, hall of Fame running back. The running back is back, boss. What happened in the NFL?
- [63:43]
Marvin
See, let me tell you what happened right back. Never left. The problem was you couldn't find those franchise running backs, and let me tell you why. So in college, they changed the game in the sense of they went to these four wide receivers and they went to this smaller bag so they can go laterally down. You know, all the running in college is lateral. There's nothing downhill. So they went to little bitty small running backs. The problem is the NFL doesn't want little bitty small running backs. They still want power football downhill. And at some point you couldn't find the running backs. Right. If they're not coming from five or six schools, you know, the, the Georgias, Alabamas, the SEC schools, maybe a Wisconsin or Notre Dame every now and then, maybe Ohio State or Michigan running back. But outside of that, you're not getting running backs from all over the country like you used to. And so as a result, the NFL had to go to say you know what, we'll figure it out. We'll go with these guys who can. We'll get four guys who can do what one guy could do. And that's what kind of happened. That and you start having to pay your tight end and the second receiver. And that money has to come from somewhere. So they say, you know what, since we can't find the franchise running back, let's pay these other guys. And if we find one, great. If we don't, we don't.
- [65:13]
Dan Patrick
Which running back is more prominent in his team's success, Derek Henry or Saquon Barkley?
- [65:19]
Marvin
Oh, that's a great question. That's a great question. I would have to say Saquon Barkley because we have seen what the Baltimore offense can do without Henry. Yeah, it's not as explosive, but they are darn good without them. Right. So. And they've, they've gotten to the lane, same level of success now when you look at Philly, they're not as good as they've been in the past. If you take Saquon Barkley off of that football team, I don't know if they make the playoffs because they're just not clicking from a passing game perspective. And so with that being said, if you don't have Saquon Barkley there, they don't have, I don't think a chance.
- [66:13]
Dan Patrick
Is Derrick Henry a hall of famer?
- [66:16]
Marvin
100%. Not a question about it. He's what he's been able to do over the years that he's been able been in the NFL 100%. I believe he's hall of Fame worthy. So I don't know what that looks like, but I do believe he has all of the characteristics. If his, if his career ended tomorrow, I think he definitely would be in.
- [66:40]
J
The hall of Fame.
- [66:42]
Dan Patrick
What's wrong with your Steelers?
- [66:46]
Marvin
I think they haven't been able to offensively get it figured out. They need a second receiver, a big time receiver. They don't have one on the other side of George Pickens. They've got to figure out about George Pickens in terms of can he be the player that they need him to be right on the field, off the field, all those things. And so I think they have to sit down with him and get that figured out. I think also you got to figure out the quarterback position. I think Russell is a good quarterback for the time, but I think the problem is he's not a long term solution to the issue. They have got to figure out a long term solution at the quarterback Position. And a lot of you hear a lot of talking heads speaking about the coach and this and that. You in the NFL, we've seen this now, this, this record is not, you know, new. If you do not have a quarterback in the NFL, you are not going to win in the playoffs. That is a, that's what we know for sure. And right now the Steelers have gone through this, this, you know, window of time where they've been trying to figure out the quarterback situation and they have failed. They have not gotten it right. So I think that's what they got to figure out. I think if you put Russell in the position where he's got two really good receivers, a really good offensive line, a good running back, he can be successful. But to ask Russell Wilson to carry this football team on his back at the quarterback position, I think is unfair to him at this stage in his career.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but Bussy, I got to put some of this on Mike Tomlin. That, yeah, you get to the playoffs, he's helping try to get a quarterback. I don't think it like he's powerful in that organization. So Mike's involved in this. So if you're involved, like you can say we got to get a quarterback. Well, I got to blame, put some of the blame on Tomlin that you haven't found a quarterback.
- [69:10]
Marvin
Well, here's, here's what you have to do. If, if Tomlin was picking all the players, I would say, okay, another piece of this puzzle is you have to commit resources, right? And so that means you've got to give up a couple first round picks. Right? Well, the Steelers, the draft is very instrumental in how they build their football team. So it's, it's a, this is not a head coach decision in terms of what they will have to do in terms of draft capital to go up and get a quarterback. Now maybe they haven't seen a quarterback that is worth, you know, packaging and, and mortgage in the future on. And I get that that may be the case, but I believe because of, I mean they're prisoner of Coach Tomlin's success because they don't have a losing season. They're picking anywhere from 18 to 25 to 26. You're not going to get a quarterback there.
- [70:12]
Dan Patrick
Right.
- [70:13]
Marvin
And so because in the last 17 years or whatever it is, they have been there. That's where they're drafting. So they've got to make a fundamental decision on how do we get the, the quarterback in there. The one year when I was there that, that everything fell apart and I think it was probably the only year that we were, you know, under 500 with Coach Cower. It was 6 and 10. We got, we got Ben that year. Right. And so you don't get, that's the situation. You're not able to get that quarterback. So I think at the end of the day, there has to be some high level discussions on are we willing to commit multiple first round picks to go get the quarterback that we need. Now they're trying to get players that have gone from team to team, and for the most part, some of these guys, their careers are more behind them than ahead of them. Right. And you're not going to solve the problem with that type of scenario. You can, you can get from year to year, but it's not sustainable at the quarterback position. And that's the, the difficult, difficult part of the scenario that the Steelers are in.
- [71:31]
Dan Patrick
Is Ben Roethlisberger still the best quarterback in Pittsburgh?
- [71:39]
Marvin
That's a good one. No, I definitely don't believe so. I know he's still throwing it, he's still throwing it to his kids in the backyard, but I don't know. I don't know if we can put him out of retirement. Go for it.
- [71:54]
Dan Patrick
Have fun on Monday night there and good to, good to catch up with you again, Bussy.
- [71:59]
Marvin
Hey, thank you, man. Hey, and you could have had any jersey you wanted at that spot. You put mine. I'm honored. Thank you so much.
- [72:07]
Paulie
I appreciate you.
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