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The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

The Dan Patrick Show

Wed Apr 02 2025

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show - Episode: The Best of The Dan Patrick Show
Release Date: April 2, 2025
Host: Mark Sanchez
Guest: Nate Thompson (Former NHL Player)

1. NBA Highlights and Player Performances

Mark Sanchez and Nate Thompson delve into recent standout performances in the NBA, particularly focusing on Nikola Jokić's remarkable triple-double and Steph Curry's exceptional shooting display.

Nikola Jokić's Triple-Double:
- Mark Sanchez (03:07): "Joker is so methodical, you could say plotting. He's a really good outside shooter, but he would get inside, and it's just old man moves."
- Nate Thompson (09:48): "Nicola Jokić might be the best basketball player I've ever seen. Like close-up. Besides myself."
Jokić achieved his third 60-point triple-double in NBA history, scoring 61 points, grabbing 10 rebounds, and dishing out 10 assists in a double-overtime loss to the Timberwolves. This performance places him alongside legends like James Harden and Luka Dončić.
Steph Curry's Shooting Prowess:
- Mark Sanchez (08:32): "Steph made 12 three-pointers. He finished with 52 points. He has 15 career games of 50 or more points, tied for sixth most all-time."
Curry continues to demonstrate his elite shooting capabilities, making it look effortless despite the high demands of the game. His ability to find space and execute under pressure remains unmatched, positioning him as a perennial contender among active players.

2. NFL Owners Meetings and Rule Changes

The discussion shifts to recent NFL owners meetings, focusing on the contentious Tush Push play and its implications for the game.

Tush Push Controversy:
- Mark Sanchez (07:48): "They tabled other things to be fair to this rule, but that feels like we want to get rid of the Tush Push. Let's table this."
- Nate Thompson (23:59): "Nick Sirianni said we have four teams that should be voting to keep this play in because it got three other coaches jobs."
The Tush Push, a play heavily utilized by the Philadelphia Eagles, has sparked debate over its safety and impact on the game. While some teams advocate for its continuation due to strategic advantages, others question its necessity and potential safety risks. The owners have decided to postpone the vote to May, indicating ongoing negotiations and divisions among the teams.

3. Players Association Negotiations and Season Expansion

The conversation transitions to the potential expansion of the NFL season to 18 games and what the Players Association might seek in return.

18-Game Season Proposal:
- Mark Sanchez (44:45): "This feels like the last call for the Players Association to be able to go, we'll give you that 18th game."
- Tomer Cohen (45:16): "What can the players get? More roster spots, maybe a larger piece of the pie."
The NFL is contemplating extending the regular season, which has significant implications for players' health, team strategies, and league revenues. The Players Association, led by Lloyd Howell, may leverage this proposal to negotiate better terms, such as increased roster sizes, enhanced benefits, and improved safety measures.

4. Ongoing Rule Changes in the NFL

Further analysis covers additional rule changes discussed during the owners meetings, including onside kick modifications and overtime adjustments.

Onside Kick Adjustments:
- Tomer Cohen (43:18): "The onside kick continues to be a dead play and they've tabled until May the question of whether they'll allow the team that's trailing to try an onside kick at any point before the fourth quarter."
The effectiveness and excitement of the onside kick remain under scrutiny. Recent changes, such as moving the touchback point from the 30 to the 35-yard line, aim to increase returns but have yet to significantly impact game dynamics.
Overtime Rules:
- Tomer Cohen (47:11): "I don't like the idea of a 15-minute overtime in the regular season because what if you're playing a Thursday after you play a Sunday."
Adjustments to overtime duration and rules are being considered to balance game fairness and player safety, especially in back-to-back scheduling scenarios.

5. Team Management: Cowboys and Jerry Jones

The hosts critique Jerry Jones's management style of the Dallas Cowboys, highlighting negotiation strategies and team performance implications.

Jerry Jones's Negotiation Tactics:
- Tomer Cohen (51:37): "Jerry Jones is a prime example of how certain skills that allowed you to make the money, that enabled you to purchase an NFL team are not transferable to how to be as successful as you can be when you own the NFL team."
Jones's approach to contract negotiations, particularly with key players like Micah Parsons, is under scrutiny. His tactics are perceived as reactive and embattled, often leading to prolonged negotiations that may harm team cohesion and player relations.

6. Personal Stories and Anecdotes

Towards the end of the episode, Nate Thompson shares personal updates, including family milestones and friendly banter with Mark Sanchez.

Family Updates:
- Nate Thompson (29:26): "My wife is an absolute superstar. Twin girls, Francesca and Samantha. She's on a Peacock show, 'Long Bright River' with Amanda Seyfried."
- Mark Sanchez (30:33): "Congrats on the babies, though."
These personal stories provide a lighthearted contrast to the intense sports discussions, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and personal lives.

Notable Quotes

Nikola Jokić on His Triple-Double:
- Mark Sanchez (03:07): "Joker is so methodical, you could say plotting. He's a really good outside shooter, but he would get inside, and it's just old man moves."
Steph Curry on His Shooting:
- Mark Sanchez (08:32): "He makes it look simple, he makes it look easy. But that's not easy, what he does."
Tush Push Debate:
- Nate Thompson (23:59): "Nick Sirianni said we have four teams that should be voting to keep this play in because it got three other coaches jobs."
Jerry Jones's Management Style:
- Tomer Cohen (51:37): "Jerry Jones is a prime example of how certain skills that allowed you to make the money... are not transferable to how to be as successful as you can be when you own the NFL team."
Personal Anecdote on Family:
- Nate Thompson (29:26): "My wife is an absolute superstar. Twin girls, Francesca and Samantha."

Conclusions and Insights

Strategic Dominance in NBA: The discussion underscores the strategic brilliance of players like Nikola Jokić and Steph Curry, who continue to redefine their roles and influence game outcomes significantly.
Complexity of NFL Rule Changes: The NFL's deliberations on rules like the Tush Push and onside kicks highlight the league's ongoing struggle to balance game integrity, safety, and entertainment value. The postponement of votes indicates internal disagreements and the intricate dynamics among team owners.
Implications of Season Expansion: Expanding the NFL season to 18 games presents both opportunities and challenges. While it promises increased revenue and more playtime for fans, it raises concerns about player health, burnout, and the overall structure of the season.
Management and Negotiation Practices: Effective team management extends beyond financial prowess. Jerry Jones's example illustrates the necessity of adaptive negotiation strategies and the importance of fostering positive relationships with players to ensure long-term team success.
Human Element in Sports: Personal stories shared by hosts like Nate Thompson emphasize the human side of sports figures, reminding listeners of the lives and relationships that exist beyond the field and court.

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show provides a comprehensive analysis of recent developments in both the NBA and NFL, offering listeners deep insights into player performances, league rule changes, and team management strategies, all while maintaining engaging and personable interactions between the hosts.

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Transcript

Julie Swerbinks (0:00)

What's up, everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

Nate Thompson (0:04)

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

Julie Swerbinks (0:07)

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

Nate Thompson (0:10)

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

Julie Swerbinks (0:16)

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

Nate Thompson (0:19)

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

Julie Swerbinks (0:24)

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Dan Roth (0:31)

Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast, this Is Working can help with that. Here's some advice from Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, on standing out from the leadership crowd.

Jamie Dimon (0:44)

Develop your eq. A lot of people have plenty of brains, but EQ is do you trust me? Do I communicate well? Develop the team, develop the people, Create a system of trust. And it works over time.

Dan Roth (0:55)

I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this Is Working Leaders Share strategies for success. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Tomer Cohen (1:07)

I'm Tomer Cohen, LinkedIn's chief product officer. If you're just as curious as I am about the way things are built, then tune in to my podcast, Building One. I speak with some of the best product builders out there.

Dan Roth (1:18)

I've always been inspired by frustration.

Tomer Cohen (1:21)

It came back to my own personal pinpoint. So we had to go out to farmers and convince them. Following that, curiosity is a superpower.

Nate Thompson (1:29)

You have to be obsessed with the human condition.

Tomer Cohen (1:32)

Listen to Building One on the iHeartRadio app, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Mark Sanchez (5:47)

Everyone on earth blame it on Lorraine. Okay, so I think we might have a poll question, play of the day coming up as well. Joker went for 61, 10 and 10. And if he went 61, 9 and 9, it would still be as impressive. But we get caught up. If it was a triple double and he had 61 points, that is true. He played over 52 minutes, scoring the 61 points in a double overtime loss to the Timberwolves. So 10 and 10. So that's the third 60 point triple double in NBA history. James Harden did it and then Luka Doncic. You go back to Luca in 2022. He went 60, 21 and 10. This is the start of the day brought to you by Panini America. Steph Curry made 12 three pointers. He finished with 52 points. So he has 15 career games of 50 or more points. Tied for sixth most all time and tied with Dame Lillard for second among active players. You're watching him and it. He makes it look simple, he makes it look easy. But so does Joker. Joker is so methodical, you could say plotting. He's a really good outside shooter, but he would get inside and it's just old man moves. That's a little shake over here, a little, you know, fake over here, move over here, a little jump hook here. And he's going against the stifled tower, Rudy Gobert. And he just does what he wants to do. And same with Steph, but Steph trying to do it on the perimeter. And at one point, Zach Edie is out There trying to guard him. So you had seven four against six three. And Steph got just enough room and then he shoots a three. It's remarkable. You know, I've watched the NBA for probably 55 years and you just watch somebody shoot like that and nobody has ever shot like that. No one. And he just makes it look effortless and it's not, it's. That is not easy what he does. But he finds enough space. He's really good at doing that. And Joker does too. Because you look at Joker and you go, why can't somebody stop him? He is so good with his footwork, he's so smart with the ball and he just moves at his own pace. He brings the game to his speed. Kawhi Leonard used to do that on a regular basis. Luca does that. You slow the game down to your pace instead of you have to speed up to what you would think an NBA games pace would be. And it's remarkable. But to watch Steph, I don't know if he'll ever be reduced to a role player like his father was. You know, his dad was a great shooter, but he wasn't a guy who was going to beat you off the dribble. He'd usually be in the corner, you know, shooting. But I don't know if his Steph isn't going to play any place else. I don't think this is. He's going to retire as a Golden State warrior. But can he be the third option? Let you know. Let's say three years down the road. Is he still able to be Steph Curry two years down the road? Can they bring in somebody who would be the number one option on that team? Because Jimmy Butler is not going to be there. Long haul, long term. They do have some younger players, but I haven't seen anybody take that next step up. And then Denver did this without Jamal Murray. It was Joker. That was it. Here is Anthony Edwards, who was dynamic as well last night. The Timberwolves guard talking about Jokic's performance.

Mark Sanchez (10:12)

That is funny. He's the best basketball player except for me. But Anthony Edwards was wonderful again last night. But these are games, you know, they're meaningful. With Golden State jockeying for position. Denver jockeying for position. This is when you watch a game and you truly get to watch a game and enjoy a game. You're seeing great players play games that really mean something. And Joker's playing almost 53 minutes last night, and he's the focal point every time down the floor. That wears you out. Same with Steph. It's like, all right, go out there and get him. Gonna load up. Steph, you're on your own tonight. All right. 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show the NFL owners meetings. I got a confession to make because I know what's going to happen. I'm going to go to like a Christmas party and I'll be the sports expert and somebody will say, hey, games going into overtime, what are the overtime rules in the NFL? And I'm going to go, I think, yeah. Oh, I think both teams get the ball. But I think that, well, this is regular season. Is regular season overtime the same as post? I might pull a Jim Boeheim. Oh, hold on. My wife's calling me. Yeah, I like, I can't keep track of it. They just keep tweaking and tweaking and tweaking and then you're going, I don't know, but looks like tweaking over time. How they spot the ball. The chain gang. Are they keeping the chain gang? What's their role in the game? They're going to be able to review if you get hit, somebody out of bounds. Going to be able to review roughing the quarterback. There's a lot that was being unpacked at the owner's meetings. Then you had the tush push and then they're going to table that. And all that means to me is, see, this isn't like the movie, what is it, 12 Angry Men, where they have to stay in and come up with a verdict. And I think I was back in the 60s or something, but why don't they just say, we're going to stay in here until we get come up with the vote. But if I'm the Eagles and Jeffrey Laurie the owner and I go, wait a minute, we're all here. Why are we tabling this? Because tabling means we don't have enough support yet. But let's wait till May and then I'm going to work behind the scenes. If I'm the commissioner or are reading the commissioner, it'd be, hey, I don't have all the votes. Let's just table this.

Nate Thompson (24:43)

I see an X factor. I see that potential. And there's always a guy, you know, every couple of years in the draft where you, where you see this extended playmaking ability, you see something that just wows you and it's there. He has it now. It's about, can you manage this thing? Can you, you know, can. Can we teach this guy and mold this guy and trust our coaches that we have to get him to go 15 play drives, multiple third down conversions, taking easy checkdowns, and then when it's time to go in the phone booth, Throw on the Superman cape and come back out and go be Cam Ward and make the crazy falling away, you know, sidearm, whatever into traffic between two defenders, throw on fourth down to win the game. Great, then go ahead and do it. But it can't be every single play. And that's not how the NFL is. You know, guys get away with more and more. Guys like Jaden Daniels have a little more wiggle room than, you know, maybe certain other players and the game is shifting towards that. You know, I think Mahomes really exploded that and expedited that process, I guess and was a catalyst for those kind of off schedule plays. But you also have to remember he got a ton of pub for that. After watching one of the most consistent quarterbacks in Alex Smith go through a west coast system the right way and, and play it by the book. Operate the offense, put the ball in play, protect the football, get completion, stack your completions and you know, never go broke taking a profit. However you want to say it, whatever hits the kid's brain to make them operate the right way, if somebody can get them to do that. You got to have a lot of trust in your quarterback coach and your offensive coordinator and somebody who's going to be there forever. He's not going to be able to do this with five different coordinators in five years. Yeah, that, that's not, it's got to be a long term plan, hopefully somewhere that has a great veteran for him to watch. But I mean, the kid has some electrifying plays and you know, those are the kind of players that just, and I've said it on the show before, that, God, I wish I could roll out of bed and do something like that, man. And it's not like I was a bad player. I was pretty damn good. But you're just like, dude, I could have never done that. And so it's, you envy guys like that. They're, they're, they're special talent.