The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Best of The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Charles Barkley
Release Date: July 11, 2025

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Introduction

In this special episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick welcomes former NBA star Charles Barkley for an engaging and candid discussion. The episode delves into various topics ranging from sports insights to personal anecdotes, all infused with Barkley's signature humor and straightforwardness.

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Arrival and Initial Banter ([02:46] - [05:04])

Charles Barkley joins Dan Patrick live from the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship at Lake Tahoe. The conversation kicks off with light-hearted banter about the tournament and Barkley's absence from playing.

• Barkley: “Dan, why don't you play in this tournament? Oh, you. I guess you injured this year. Dan, this is the best week of the year.” ([04:15])

Dan responds with confidence, suggesting he'd outperform Barkley on the golf course, leading to a playful exchange about betting on their performances.

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Betting on the Tournament ([05:03] - [07:58])

The discussion shifts to the topic of betting on oneself in sports tournaments.

• Barkley: “I want to bet $500,000 on it. They say it's illegal for me to bet on myself. If I bet myself to lose, that would be illegal.” ([05:26])

Dan humorously offers to place the bet for Barkley, highlighting the humor in the conversation about self-betting.

The conversation then transitions to basketball, with Barkley sharing his thoughts on upcoming questions he might receive about team standings and player performances.

• Barkley: “The Rockets got bigger, but their best second-best player is going to be 41, 42 years old. Can he stay healthy?” ([07:35])

He emphasizes the unpredictability of basketball, noting that on-paper assessments often differ from actual game outcomes.

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Comparison Between Football and Basketball ([08:14] - [09:42])

Barkley expresses his admiration for football over basketball, citing the courage and integrity required in the game.

• Barkley: “I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to play football.” ([08:18])

He reflects on his brief experience playing football, humorously admitting he wasn't suited for the sport.

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Life Beyond Sports ([09:42] - [11:39])

Dan shifts the conversation to a more personal level, asking Barkley about his life outside of basketball.

• Barkley: “I believe my work ethic would make me successful. But I've never done anything but basketball.” ([10:05])

He speculates on potential careers outside of sports, maintaining his characteristic honesty and self-awareness.

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Happiness and Wealth in the NBA ([11:39] - [13:23])

Barkley offers a provocative take on the happiness of NBA players, despite their substantial earnings.

• Barkley: “Anyways who, how happy can he be? He should go around shaking people's hands.” ([13:23])

He argues that the financial success of players like Devin Booker should naturally correlate with their happiness, challenging common perceptions.

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Navigating Fame and Personal Challenges ([16:13] - [19:55])

In the second part of the interview, Barkley delves into the challenges athletes face off the court, including substance abuse and personal troubles.

• Barkley: “You got to surround yourself with a few people who, number one, will tell you no. Tell you how to invest your money, how to save your money.” ([16:26])

He emphasizes the importance of a supportive network in maintaining personal integrity and avoiding common pitfalls in the NBA.

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Competitive Nature and Respect for Legends ([20:20] - [27:01])

Barkley reflects on his competitive nature, particularly in comparison to basketball legends like Michael Jordan and Larry Bird.

• Barkley: “I thought Michael Jordan was a better player than me. That's the only player I ever played against I thought was better than me.” ([21:18])

He shares personal anecdotes about facing Jordan and Bird, offering insights into his own growth and respect for his peers.

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Reflections on Career and Legacy ([27:08] - [29:46])

The conversation shifts to Barkley's experiences with teammates and coaches, highlighting his admiration for influential figures in the NBA.

• Barkley: “We owe all our success in the NBA to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.” ([22:46])

He discusses the impact of coaching on player development and the overall culture within teams.

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Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts ([29:46] - [50:30])

As the interview wraps up, Dan introduces a humorous segment featuring Greg Rosenthal, adding levity to the conversation. They discuss various topics, including name changes and playful banter, maintaining the show's engaging and entertaining tone.

• Charles Barkley: “I love Jim. Like, every time I see him, he says, good luck.” ([28:27])

The episode concludes with mutual appreciation between Dan and Charles, underscoring the camaraderie and respect between them.

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Notable Quotes

• Charles Barkley: “Anyways who, how happy can he be? He should go around shaking people's hands.” ([13:23])
• Charles Barkley: “I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to play football.” ([08:18])
• Charles Barkley: “I thought Michael Jordan was a better player than me. That's the only player I ever played against I thought was better than me.” ([21:18])

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show featuring Charles Barkley offers a blend of sports analysis, personal insights, and humorous exchanges. Barkley's candid reflections on his career, the nature of sportsmanship, and personal challenges provide listeners with a comprehensive look into the life of one of basketball's most outspoken figures.

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Transcript

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[Charles Barkley]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

Show on Fox Sports Radio. We are live at Lake Tahoe. American Century Celebrity Golf Championship getting underway today. Peacock, NBC Golf Channel. You can go to danpatrick.com, click on the toy box link to follow along. Got tons of content there. Games, interviews, poll questions, etc. A couple of phone calls, then we'll get to Charles Barkley Hunter in West Virginia. Hi, Hunter. What's on your mind? Good morning, Dan. Been a hot minute. I decided to take a little bit of time away after that terrible stat of the day. I will. I'll let the pros do that from here on. But I wanted to call in. And I wanted to congratulate you guys on the win last night. I know the Boys and Girls Club of Milford. Are going to put that $25,000 to good use. Congratulations. And if Fritz, he doesn't get the MVD As a result of his performance in gas money. Oh, boy. But anyway, no, he's won fat. He won that before with Most Valuable and Least Valuable. But thanks for the phone call. And I'm sure Fritzi will probably win both awards this year. Charles Barkley joined us yesterday. We were waiting. You know, usually what happens is once the show is over, we kind of stay here on our set. And then we wait till the golfers get done with their round. Or they're done with, you know, being on the practice range. And all of a sudden we looked over and here was Charles Barkley coming up. And he greeted me by saying, dan, you're a coward.

[Charles Barkley]

Dan, why don't you play in this tournament? Oh, you. I guess you injured this year. Dan, this is the best week of the year.

[Dan Patrick]

I would play if I could play with you. Because I know that I would beat you then.

[Charles Barkley]

You can't beat me now.

[Dan Patrick]

You had the worst odds to win this thing.

[Charles Barkley]

I don't even understand that.

[Dan Patrick]

I do.

[Charles Barkley]

No, I don't even understand that. Because last year I came in 58th. So how do they have. That's 30 more people. How can they have me dead last if I beat 30 some people last year? Am I right?

[Dan Patrick]

I'm betting on you to better your score from last year.

[Charles Barkley]

Well, they got me top 65, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Charles Barkley]

I'm gonna beat that.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going under.

[Charles Barkley]

Me, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. How much you gonna bet on yourself?

[Charles Barkley]

Well, last year I've had. I want to bet $500,000 on it.

[Dan Patrick]

And did you?

[Charles Barkley]

So, no, this. True story. I placed a bet, and then they tell me I can't do it. They say it's illegal for me to better myself. I said, which is total bs. I might Add I guess they knew I was going to win, but they told me it's illegal for you to bet on yourself. I'm like, if I bet myself to lose, that would be illegal.

[Dan Patrick]

But boxers get to bet on themselves.

[Charles Barkley]

I don't know. I think they were just full of crap. To be honest with you, Dan, I.

[Dan Patrick]

Would have placed the bet for you.

[Charles Barkley]

I would like you to do that. But yeah, they told me it was illegal, which I didn't understand.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so you can give me 500,000.

[Charles Barkley]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

And I can bet on you?

[Charles Barkley]

Yes. Let's see if they'll take that this year.

[Dan Patrick]

And do I get a finder's fee or do I get.

[Charles Barkley]

Did you put any money in? No, you didn't put any money in. So if I lose. So you got a unfound fee?

[Dan Patrick]

No. What's the number one question, basketball wise, that you'll get out here?

[Charles Barkley]

I have not. I just got in last night. I have not been asked any basketball question yet, to be honest with you. I have not been asked one basketball question. I've only did probably two quick interviews. Nothing, just the most formal one I've done. But I have not been asked one basketball question. But to answer your question was the number one question I'm probably going to be asked is how close are the Rockets to the Thunder and who's going to be favored in the East? Which are two very good questions because I don't know, because basketball is not played on paper, it's played in the gym and I have no idea who the favorite in the East. Did the Rockets get better? Probably. Are they as good as Oklahoma City? I don't know. But the question with the East, I'd have to do some serious thinking because I like the Miles Turner going with Giannis. The Knicks are going to be solid. I like what Orlando did. Atlanta had a great offseason.

[Dan Patrick]

They did pretty well.

[Charles Barkley]

But all that stuff is just window dressing. When that, when the basketball starts in October, that's when it starts. Everything looks great on paper.

[Dan Patrick]

Deandre Ayton going to the Lakers does that. What's. What's that solve?

[Charles Barkley]

They got bigger. They got bigger. But their best second best player is going to be 41, 42 years old. Can he stay healthy? Is Luka gonna be in shape? Are they better than the Rockets? Are they better than Oklahoma City? Are they better than Denver? Those are great questions.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I don't.

[Charles Barkley]

Just because. Because Aiden, his track. I gotta go by his track record and it's not a good track record. They needed a big Guy. But are they better in Oklahoma City, Houston or Denver? I would not say so, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you think you know more about football than you do basketball?

[Charles Barkley]

I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to play football. I played for one day and I realized I was a puss. I was like, damn, they really are hidden out here.

[Dan Patrick]

But you, you were a big guy in, in high school.

[Charles Barkley]

I wasn't that big. I grew from 510 to 6 5, but I was like 510 when I played football that one day. But even now, to go out on a football field, you can cheat in basketball. You don't have to play defense. You can be a one way offensive player. You can, you know, you can cheat. You cannot cheat in football if you step on that football field. It's kind of the same thing with boxing. The reason football and boxing are my two favorite sports, it takes tremendous courage. You cannot step on a football field. If you're not all in, you're gonna have to quit. I mean, it's just dangerous. Same thing with boxing. You can't cheat football in boxing, you can cheat in some other sports. But in football and boxing you have to be all in.

[Dan Patrick]

I think best athletes are hockey players. To do it on the ice. Well, with the sticks, they get to hit you with the sticks.

[Charles Barkley]

Well, I would love to beat the hell out of some people and only get, and only get punished for two minutes. Can you imagine that? You get to knock the hell out of somebody and to get punished for two minutes. That would be a, that'd be like a dream come true.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, how many players would you, looking back, like to have that I, I get to beat you up And I am only out two minutes for roughing.

[Charles Barkley]

Bill Lambert, ML Carr, Popeye Jones. Because Popeye Jones, the one player who dominated me every time I played against him, I would love to just knock the hell out of him for two minutes.

[Dan Patrick]

But when you see Lambert, you're good, we're good.

[Charles Barkley]

Yo, dude, that's all that stuff should be good. Dude, we 60 year old. If you're 60 years old and still fighting, you're a punk. Anybody who's still fighting is 60. Anybody who's fighting past 25 is a punk. Like, if you're a grown person, you know, you, you young and dumb and stupid, you get in a fight every now and then. But once you're a grown person, you shouldn't be fighting anybody. Fighting once you pass 30 is just a loser. You see these videos where people out here fighting, you say to yourself. What a damn fool. What an idiot.

[Dan Patrick]

Where would you be if you didn't play basketball?

[Charles Barkley]

Wow, that's a great question. I believe my work ethic would make me successful. But I don't know because I've never did anything but basketball. But I believe my work ethic in basketball helped me be successful. You got to have more than talent to be successful. But I probably would be like a regular worker, like in a factory somewhere. Because nobody's going to ever say I didn't work hard, but I wasn't going to be overly smart. I'm not going to tell that lie. But I think I would have been successful at something. Probably better been factory related.

[Dan Patrick]

But okay. When do you get that personality? When you realize you have personality? When, when, when can you entertain? When can you make people laugh?

[Charles Barkley]

Well, that should be easy.

[Dan Patrick]

But you were in high school, you in college.

[Charles Barkley]

No, not. It didn't happen till I got to the mba. Once I realized I'd made it. See your life, happiness should be dictated by how good your life is. Like Dan, anybody who plays sports should be the happiest person in the world. You think about it, we get paid a gazillion dollars to do something that's stupid. Think about it. And I'm not saying that to be humble. Like I was sitting there when I first started making my. Like these people paying me millions of dollars to dribble a stupid ass basketball. They're paying me millions of dollars to wear shoes. I should always be in a good mood and I really live my life. People said, man, you always in a good mood. I said why wouldn't I be in a good mood like every NBA player to be like man, these people are paying me millions of dollars to dribble a stupid ball. Like my first contract was four years, $2 million. I was number five pick in the draft. That guy today is probably going to get a four year deal for 30, 40 million. He should be happy from day one. Yeah, I was happy from day one.

[Dan Patrick]

So I saw where Devin Booker got two year extension. He's going to get over $70 million a year.

[Charles Barkley]

He should be the happiest person. He should go around. He should just go around shaking people hands.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he plays for the Suns. How happy can he be?

[Charles Barkley]

Well, he going to be happy twice a day, twice a month. The 1st and the 15th. Hey, the 1st and the 15th. He going to be real damn happy, you know, God bless these guys for how much money they make. I made more money than Dr. J and Bill Russell. Those guys. But these guys should all be in a good mood.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan.

[Charles Barkley]

I mean think about Devin Booker, who's a hell of a player going to make $70 million to dribble a stupid basketball. Why shouldn't he be in a good mood? He's the luckiest dude in the world. I mean all these dudes I saw. Chad Holman got 200 some million. Shay just got 300 million. Why wouldn't you be in a good mood? You work six, seven months a year, you get two $300 a day per diem. You stay at the risk cost in the four seasons. You work a couple hours a day, four days a week. What you not happy about?

[Dan Patrick]

Keep in that good mood. We'll continue with Charles Barkley right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Charles Barkley]

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[Dan Patrick]

You ask?

[Charles Barkley]

Along with my fellow Pro Bowler TJ Hush Manzada and Super Bowl Champion.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris.

[Charles Barkley]

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[Dan Patrick]

We spent some time yesterday with Charles Barkley. We gave you part one. Then we went to commercial break, and we promised part two. And I started out by asking Charles Barkley how easy it was to get in trouble on the road when he was playing.

[Charles Barkley]

It's very easy to get in trouble. You got drugs, you got alcohol, you got women troubles. Troubles always there. Trouble you have to go on the road to get in trouble is at home, too.

[Dan Patrick]

But who helps you navigate that when you get to the NBA? Because you.

[Charles Barkley]

Nobody helps you navigate. You got to surround yourself. First thing you got to do is get rid of your family and friends because they're the biggest freeloaders and they'll never tell you no. They'll use up all your money, too, and they won't tell you no. You got to surround yourself with a few people who, number one, will tell you no. Tell you how to invest your money, how to save your money, tell you, hey, you had too much to drink. I don't think we should be doing this. Pot, cocaine, all these drugs. That's the hardest thing, surrounding yourself with people, because these kids got the same stuff. They just got more of it, and they got more money. But there's women, there's alcohol, there's drugs. That's everywhere, whether you're at home or on the road. And sometimes they can all get you in trouble if you don't control them. And they're readily available, depending on how much money you got.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, how did you not get in trouble?

[Charles Barkley]

Well, I've done stupid things. I never got into the drug thing.

[Dan Patrick]

You'd smoke pot before?

[Charles Barkley]

Yeah, five times. I don't understand. You know, my friends keep trying to get me to smoke pot. I smoke pot, like, five times. It just make me want potato chips. It doesn't do anything for me, Dan and my friends love it. And I say, oh, y' all can do it. I'm just not gonna do it. But pot does nothing for me. I just don't understand it. I've only. Like I said, I think I've done it maybe four, five times at the most. And they're like, you got to try this, this whatever. And I'm like, yeah, what are lay's potato chips and Pringles at? But I've never gotten involved with drugs. I probably did some stupid stuff with women for sure. But, man, it's there if you want it.

[Dan Patrick]

But also, when you. When you think about It. If you go to a team, a bad team or a team, that. That's the culture.

[Charles Barkley]

Yeah, but every guy's not involved in the culture. Like, there's guys. What guys? On teams I've been on, they like to do drugs. You don't have to hang out with those guys. But in the bottom line, you got to make your own decisions. I chose not to do drugs. I didn't judge other guys who did drugs. That's them. There's guys. I probably drank too much because I like to drink. But I think the biggest thing you need to be a great player is have a good coaching staff. That's probably the most important thing, the coaching staff. I think more players get ruined by bad coaching staffs because the coaches are cowards. They're scared to coach. Like, I wanted a Pat Riley. I had a great coach, Billy Cunningham, a Greg Popovich, like. But most of these coaches today, they're cowards because the players make so much money. They don't have money control. The players run the team, and the coach need to realize that player gonna get him fired. But we have taken the power from the coaches away because the players make so much money. But I say bad coaches have ruined more players than anything in the NBA.

[Dan Patrick]

I was wondering this question, if this would be asked on LeBron's podcast, and tell me how you would interpret this. Let's say Steve Nash says to Kevin Durant and LeBron is there, and he says, do you think you're better than LeBron? Do you think it's a fair question to ask KD and what do you think Katie would say?

[Charles Barkley]

Well, I think all questions are fair. You have a right to answer them. I think, Katie, his answer should be yes. You got to always think you. You can't be a great player if you think other players haven't you. They're gonna have to prove they're better than you. Do I think Katie is as good as Braun? I do not, because I don't think you have his leadership qualities. But that's a fair question. But I can't answer. Should be yes.

[Dan Patrick]

But did you think you were better than Bird?

[Charles Barkley]

Yes. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you think you were better than Jordan?

[Charles Barkley]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Was there anybody you didn't think you were better than?

[Charles Barkley]

Dan, let me tell you this, and I've talked about this publicly before. I did not think Michael Jordan's better than me until he beat me in the Finals. Because when I got. When I was in Philly, we actually had success against them. And then they got good, and then they Beat us in the playoffs one year. But I thought it was just because he had some better players around him. When I got traded to Phoenix, I says, chuck Daly had told me, he says, you're the second best player in the world. I said, I'm the best player in the world? He says, no, that guy right over there's the best player in the world. I said, well, I'm gonna prove it to your ass this year when we play them in the finals. He says, chuck says, I didn't realize how great you were except getting to watch you play every day, how easy the game is for you. You can play with anybody. This is during the Dream Team practice. And I said, chuck, I'm the best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it to you. I said, we're going to play the Bulls in the finals. And I remember telling the guys that going in training camp, I said, we're going to play the Bulls in the finals. How you know that? I said, because I'm the best damn player in the world and I'm going to prove it. I said, we're going to play the Bulls and I'm going to prove I'm the best player in the world. And I remember going home after game two. My daughter was upset, crying because we lost the first two games. I says, hey, just relax. We're gonna be fine. I said, but I gotta tell you something. I never said this in my life. I think that guy might be better at basketball than I am. And I said, but I think I'm better. And we'll be fine. Then we win game three, lose game four, win game five, come back home for game six. And my daughter. I says, I. I told you, I think I'm the best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it. And then they beat us. I remember telling her, I says, I never said to see you before. That guy's better at basketball than me. And that's the first time I'd ever. Cause it's a team game. But once I got Dan, Marlon, Kevin Johnson, I said, we can beat anybody. We can beat anybody. But, yeah, I thought Michael Jordan was a better player than me. That's the only player I ever played against I thought was better than me.

[Dan Patrick]

Magic.

[Charles Barkley]

Magic had James Worthy and Kareem. And Magic is great. You know, we owe all our success in the NBA to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. They're the two most important people in NBA history. They're the reason the NBA makes some money today. Obviously, Michael took it to a whole nother level. But it wasn't for Matty Johnson. Larry Bird, the NBA wouldn't be what it was today, plain and simple.

[Dan Patrick]

What if Bird doesn't injure his back?

[Charles Barkley]

Well, he's still one of the greatest players ever. I mean, you know, because it's a.

[Dan Patrick]

What was it, a 10 year career?

[Charles Barkley]

I think it was more than that. But you have to factor in though, then the physicality of the game. We all had to go to college for three and four years. You know, you, these guys, number one. Bless these guys. They make a deal how long they play. Number one, they never went to college. And also there's no physicality. You have to factor in. These guys played. I played three years of college. I think Bird played four years of college. Michael played three years of college. Tim Duncan played four years of college. David Robinson played four years of college. So the guys talk about what these guys like. I say and listen, it's a different game now because no physicality. But you have to factor in all the years some of these guys lost going to college. I think Bird went to college. I mean, he went to two or three schools. I remember. Correct. Before he went to Indiana State, because. But so, but Bird, man, he was amazing.

[Dan Patrick]

Feels like there's all. There's probably more stories about Bird that are told than any other player because.

[Charles Barkley]

He was the best trash talker ever, you know, so. So Leon Wood was one of my teammates. And we're sitting in a locker room getting ready for the three point shooting contest. And I was kind of just talking to Leon, trying to calm him down and good. All these three point shooters in there. Bird comes in and says, which one of you gonna come in second place? Like, which one of you gonna come in second place?

[Dan Patrick]

So first words through the door, which.

[Charles Barkley]

One of you gonna come in second place? Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

It was over.

[Charles Barkley]

I'm sitting around, nobody said nothing. It was one of the best scenes I've ever like. I'm looking around, I'm not in the contest, so I can't say anything. Nobody said a word. And I says, man, I wish we had casinos we could bet on Khalil Bird gonna win this three point shooting contest. Cause nobody said a thing. I mean, I was like, this thing is over. This is a wrap.

[Dan Patrick]

Did Larry and Dr. J ever talk about that fight that they had?

[Charles Barkley]

So I'm still mad that the NBA found me.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you were holding.

[Charles Barkley]

I wasn't. See, see, I grabbed him to break it up. I didn't know Doc was punching him. I just remember Burke, Chuck y' all better get this old man off me.

[Dan Patrick]

What are you saying about Dr. J?

[Charles Barkley]

Yeah. Oh, Chuck killing him, too. Yo, man, y' all better get this old man off me. He says this five, six, seven times. Doc is grinding now, trying to stop him. He and Bird rolling. I'm gonna kill this old man if y' all don't get him off me. And next thing I know, Doc just snaps, and I just grab Bird. And I'm still mad. I'm telling you, NBA fined me for holding. I said, first of all, I would never hold somebody unless somebody I didn't know. I just tried to break it up. I didn't know Doc was punching him. But, man, after he said about the fifth or sixth time about get this old man off me, Doc just snapped.

[Dan Patrick]

So Larry's taking it to Dr. Jack.

[Charles Barkley]

This. This might be Doc's last year. It was one of his last couple. It may have been his last year. And Bird just killing him and talking trash the whole time. And, boy, Doc just snapped.

[Dan Patrick]

Did they ever talk about this?

[Charles Barkley]

No, not. No. That was nothing to talk about.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if Larry would ever say, you know what? No, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have, man.

[Charles Barkley]

I know.

[Dan Patrick]

But there's Dr. J. He's royalty.

[Charles Barkley]

Let me tell you something. Treat him. No, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about the Sickers and the Celtics. My first experience. So, you know, these old vets, Doc Bobby Jones, Reese Cheeks, Moses, they don't care about the preseason. It's just like, basically a glorified scrimmage. So we play, like, the first four or five games we go to play the Celtics. Guys is goofing around the first four or five exhibition games. There's not a sound going on. I pull Andrew Tony aside. I says, is somebody sick or hurt or something? He says, it's the Celtics. And I said, what? He says, it's the Celtics.

[Dan Patrick]

The preseason.

[Charles Barkley]

Preseason. Every time we played the Celtics, it was a different vibe. Anytime we played the Lakers, it was different because Moses was gonna try to kill Kareem, because Kareem was the. Moses did thought Moses thought. He never got his. Just do it. I don't believe he got it either, but when we played the Celtics, man, regular season, playoffs, it was a different vibe in the building. It was. It was.

[Dan Patrick]

It's great to see you.

[Charles Barkley]

Hey, man, good luck. Hey. I'm proud of you, Dan. You know, your career, to have a career, as long as you've had it, you have to be talented. Number one, you have to have a great work ethic and people have to like you. How many years you been doing this now?

[Dan Patrick]

Probably 40. Almost 40 years, man.

[Charles Barkley]

You like me, man? You're gonna go your whole life without working? I'm on a six.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, no. Oh, no. I work. Listen to the guys I'm with. No, I work.

[Charles Barkley]

It's like stealing, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

This is work.

[Charles Barkley]

It's like stealing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. This isn't exactly your Phoenix Suns team that I've got.

[Charles Barkley]

No, this is my Philadelphia 7 Central team. The team you wanted out of this, right? Yeah. Oh, you know, it's so funny. Jimmy Loud and one of my favorite people. One of my. Billy Co is my best coach I ever had. Two of my favorites are Rudy, Tom Jonovich and Jim Lonham. We're playing the Celtics in the playoffs. I says, jim, look out there right before tip off. That's Bird McHale and Parish. I got Shelton, Jones and Manuk. He says, good luck. I love Jim. Like, every time I see him, he says, good luck.

[Dan Patrick]

Good luck. And I'll leave you with that.

[Charles Barkley]

I'll leave you with that. Hey, God, thanks for having me, brother.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, man.

[Charles Barkley]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Charles. He's great. He gave us, you know, half hour of his time. Busy day, pulled in a lot of different directions. But I do love that, you know, when people say he forced his way out of Philadelphia to Phoenix, well, look at who he had. He had his front line didn't exactly match up with the Boston Celtics there with Bird, mchale and Parrish. And even when Charles finished the conversation, the interview, he's still telling us that story as he's walking off our stage here, and he's like, damn, if they had Bird, McHale and Parrish. I had minute and Shelton. Shelton Jones. I went, wait, Shelton Jones. He went to St. John's he's like, yeah, that's Shelton Jones. Yeah.

[Charles Barkley]

Marvin Shelton Jones played one year in the NBA in the. In the 1988 season for the Philadelphia 76ers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But he was there with Charles against Bird, McHale and Parrish. Even that conversation where he's talking about bird trash talking Dr. J. And this is late in doc's career, and Larry's, you know, tearing him up. And that's when he kept saying to Charles he was talking about Dr. J. And then Dr. J had had enough, grabs Bird by the throat, and Charles grabs Larry. Not realizing that Dr. J is pounding Larry, I was like, oh, my God. Alex Caruso of the Oklahoma City Thunder will stop by. And the great comedian Nate Borgetzi will join us as well. Yes, I got a big problem with.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The way Larry Bird treated Dr. J. I do too.

[Dan Patrick]

I got a big problem with that. But that's what I was saying to Charles. I mean, calling him an old man. I mean, I understand Larry, that, you know, with trash talking. That's Dr. J. I feel like the the entire Sex Sixers team should have punched Larry Bird in the face.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Not just Dr. J.

[Dan Patrick]

Everybody should have punched him in the face. You don't talk to him like that. The hell's wrong with you?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Be sure to catch the live edition.

[Dan Patrick]

Of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Dan Patrick]

Final hour on this Friday. It's a meat Friday at that. We got chopped brisket, we got barbecue chicken, we got potato salad, baked beans. Who has it better? We do.

[Charles Barkley]

Nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, so we're a Danette down. Fritzi flew back from London and I think he got back in time to watch the celebrity Family Feud. He's going to join us coming up at, I don't know, 20 after or so and he can take a victory lap with how he performed. All of the Danets, everybody performed well and we're able to talk about it now because we dominated the Rich Eisen Show. I did ask if somebody could go see if Rich Eisen, who was here playing could come up here as a journalist. I, I am a journalist.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You got to cover the story.

[Dan Patrick]

I said, could somebody go over and ask Rich Eisen if he would like to join us on the program that's all.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Survey says no.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But I want he can give his side to this. I want to let him have his opportunity to talk about this. Yes. Paulie, before you bring in Rob, I.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Just want to say some people on the Internet are asking about the possibility of a celebrity family feud rematch.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm a one and doner.

[Charles Barkley]

What?

[Greg Rosenthal]

We have nothing else to prove.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know. We dominated and we move on. I. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he might want to. To save face. I don't know if he'll ever recover from this, but, you know, let's see if he wants to join us here on the program. All right. 877-3-DP-SHOP Email address dpdanpatrick.com He's Rob Mack, the actor, comedian, part owner of Wrexham, Always sunny in Philadelphia. Always sunny disposition, and a celebrity who doesn't lie. Because yesterday I said, rob, do you want to join us on the show? And he goes, I can't today, but I'll join you tomorrow. You look like a celebrity, though.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Thank you. I think it's the sunglasses.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, it is. Yes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'll take off now.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, it is. Okay, explain the rebrand here. Of you go from Rob McElhenney.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

To Rob Mack. And how much thought went behind this. If you want to pull that microphone up a little bit, too. So how much thought goes into a. What I guess is a rebrand.

[Greg Rosenthal]

A tremendous amount of thought over the last 20 years. But I think the thing that really put it over the edge was, you know, I'm very proud of my name. I'm proud of my heritage. I'm proud of my family. And I never wanted to. To change my name. And I was asked many times coming into the entertainment business just because there's so many syllables and it's not quite as sticky and. And I always said no for that reason. And then I did a full family tree earlier this year and found out that our name has changed seven or eight times over the last hundred years, including when we first came over. My great, great grandfather, they just changed his name.

[Dan Patrick]

Was it O McElhenney?

[Greg Rosenthal]

It was in the vein. There was a lot. There was an O at one point. It was McCullough. It was McCullough Goodney at some point. And I thought, it's kind of amazing that someone put a stamp on M, C, E, L, H, E, N and E y and said, yeah, that's the easy one.

[Charles Barkley]

Go with that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Go with that.

[Dan Patrick]

What did your wife say?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, she goes by Caitlin Olson, so she's okay with it. I called my. My. My father, of course, had a very long conversation with him. His first question was. He said, son, I love you. I will support you in whatever. What you want to do. Are you having a midlife crisis? I said, well, yes. He said, just buy a car. But no, he said, you know, it was really important to me for. Because of my grandfather. My grandfather and my grandmother were very close, the patriarch and matriarch of our family. And I said, what do you think grand and Pop would think? And he said, well, Pop would have loved that if some government official decided to change your name, that you changed it back to something that you wanted.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But you know what's going to happen? This is like X with Twitter, that they have to say X formerly known as Twitter. It's Rob Mack, formerly known as Rob McElhenney.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. It's easier than Prince, right? Because what was that?

[Charles Barkley]

He was symbol.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

At the end of the day, I actually, I already. It's only been a couple of weeks and it's already easier. You walk into a room just right here, the Edwin Hotel. They said, name, sir? I said, rob Mack. They didn't say, excuse me. They said, oh, okay. I said, rlbmac. And that was it.

[Dan Patrick]

So you have all this free time of Rob Mack, and then you don't have the ohany.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's right.

[Dan Patrick]

So once again. And you're signing things. So it's easier to sign Rob Mack here at the.

[Greg Rosenthal]

My signature was just sort of RM and then a bunch of squiggly lines. So I don't know if it'll make that much of a difference. But I can say that it's also an opportunity to. To shed one's skin and try something new. I've always liked change, and I've always been a terrible golfer, so I feel like Rob McElhenny is a terrible golfer. But Rob Mac is going to make a statement this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Is Ryan Reynolds going to change his last name?

[Greg Rosenthal]

I don't know. I mean, that's the thing. It's. If you're. If your last name is Reynolds or Patrick, you don't know. You don't really understand what it's like. And again, it's not that big of a deal. There's so much going on in the world, who really cares? But the amount of time one has to spend negotiating and navigating the spelling or pronunciation of one's name, when, especially as our business expands into Latin America and in other parts of the world, I just figured it'd be Easier for everybody else just to say, Mac Rexham.

[Dan Patrick]

You and Ryan done a great job there. Congratulations on promotion.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

How close was this to not happening?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Never not. You mean the promotion or the whole project?

[Dan Patrick]

The whole project.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, no. It was gonna happen. In fact, I went back and. And I found the original email that I sent to him where I laid out the idea and what. What I. What I wanted to do. And originally I was gonna do it on my own and. And. And ask Ryan if he wanted to be a sponsor. Aviation Gin is the front of Kit sponsor. The more I thought about it, the more I realized, wow, he's such an entrepreneur. He's globally famous. Whatever he touches seems to turn to gold. If I could potentially include him as a partner, that this could take this thing to the stratosphere. And I remember asking my wife about it, and I said, caitlin, what do you think about me asking Ryan to be a full partner on this? And she said, I don't know. I guess it depends on whether your ego can take sharing the screen with Ryan Reynolds.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. And I said, that's a good point. It's a good point.

[Dan Patrick]

But I would. You know, they don't want posers over there. And we've seen so many US Billionaires, they want to invest in the Premier League. And, you know, there's that pushback reaction. How much of that did you get from Wrexham? That. Wait a minute. What do you guys know about soccer? And what are you going to do?

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's right. And that's why we were honest from the very beginning, and we went in with our hearts on our sleeves and said, we don't know anything about football. And I didn't say soccer. I said football. Now, for the sake of this conversation, it will be easier to call it soccer. And so I'll just. I'll do so. But I just want to put an asterisk on that. We just went in and said we don't know anything about soccer.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, have you become a soccer snob?

[Greg Rosenthal]

No, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Honestly, I become a soccer fan. I was not even a fan of the beautiful game up until five years ago, and now I'm. I'm horrifically addicted. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

But if you. If you could say success for Wrexham or success for Always Sunny.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What, you mean if I had a time machine? Cause it's hard to. I mean, I would need a DeLorean to go back, but. You mean from this point forward?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Sonny's had a great run. We're in season 17. We just debuted season 17 over 2020 years. Yeah. That's why.

[Dan Patrick]

A round of applause for that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, you know, I remember meeting you probably about a decade ago, and I said something to you, a phrase. And I remember you saying, wow, that is both inspiring and crushing. And that phrase was, I grew up watching you.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And now I hear a lot of people say that to me. Oh, I. Guys in their 30s and women in their mid-30s saying, I grew up watching you. And there's nothing. You described it perfectly. It is really inspiring and sweet to hear. And it's crushing because it means you're so old.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You do feel that. Like, you get to a certain point where somebody said, and the legendary. You know, you. You can't be legendary when you're in your 20s. Yes. You gotta be in your 60s to become legendary.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But, Danny, I'll give you a great example. Danny DeVito turns down lifetime achievement awards all the time. And I asked him, you know, this was like, maybe five years ago. Why do you keep turning these things down? They seem like great honors. And he said, because it's basically a ticket to the. To the funeral home. They're saying, hey, great. That was. That was a great career. Bye. And I feel the same way. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I truly. If they gave me a lifetime sports Emmy, like, I wouldn't want to do it because there's still part of me that's, like, very competitive. I mean, I expect a lifetime sports Emmy. I'm just saying, yes, maybe it could be a, you know, posthumous. Like, I'm fine with that. But how do you sell Danny DeVito on this concept?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, we had the. The luxury of already having shot one season of the show without him. Now, nobody watched it, but we had seven episodes of that series. And I remember going to his house because we needed to bring on somebody that had a little weight, somebody that was famous, so that we could use it for marketing. And Danny's name came up, and he just seemed like a perfect fit. So I remember I went over to his house and rang the doorbell, and his daughter, who at the time was probably 19 or 20 years old, she answers the door and she says, oh, hi, my name's Lucy. I just want to tell you I'm such a massive fan of your show. And I knew from that point forward, I walked through the threshold and was like, we got this guy. We got this guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Was there an episode that maybe you shouldn't have aired?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, yeah, there's episodes that got pulled from the air that are no longer in circulation.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, yeah. Can you casually discuss those?

[Charles Barkley]

Sure.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'M happy to discuss them. I mean it's, it's satire. So one of the benefits of satire is that you get to sort of wield a very sharp look at culture. And that's what we do. Very specifically Western culture, very specifically the hypocrisy of western culture across the socio political and economic divides. And in doing so, you're going to push the boundaries of what is considered good taste at any given moment. And so at the time when something, you're making something and something airs, it speaks to the, to its time. But when something then goes years and years and years, the time the times change and it doesn't necessarily age. And I always feel like, well, look, that's where I was at the time. That's where the show was at the time. I feel like erasing that as if it didn't exist suggests that it never happened. And I feel like that's a scary way to can. To. To look at the present and the future.

[Dan Patrick]

How good a golfer are you?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, terrible.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, like, like how are you? Barkley? Bad.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, I'm worse than Barkley. Well, I, well, I was. I can tell you, I can tell you how I feel versus what the reality is. I feel like I'm a great golfer and that's part of the problem. So there's no reality.

[Dan Patrick]

You look like you can play.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Thank you. Yeah, I'm not an, I am not an athlete. Not in any way. I have. No, no. That's why I went to the arts. All my friends were playing sports. That was when all boys Catholic school and the girls schools needed boys for their plays. And I was like, I'm getting cut from every team. I might as well go and meet a bunch of girls and get into the place, right?

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? Given looking back, I should have been in choir and maybe band and done, you know, plays.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, it, it worked out.

[Dan Patrick]

Theater, it worked out pretty well.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But, but as far as these events go, it's really fun to test your metal against professional athletes because it's really golf. The sport itself is so humbling and it is a game that takes practice and it's so. Look, ultimately it's so stupid. You're just trying to get a little ball into a hole 400 yards away. So why do people love it? Why do people come become so addicted to it, especially high achieving people. And I think it's just the meditative practice of recognizing how silly something is. But the more work you put into it, the hopefully the better you get. And I think there's Just something very.

[Dan Patrick]

Profound about that Eagles fan playing with Aaron Rodgers today, correct?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. How's that gonna go?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, I don't. We won the super bowl, and when I say we, I mean the Philadelphia Eagles, not me. I think it's gonna go grade. I'm. I've never. I've never met Aaron, aside from shaking hands with him, so we'll see how his game is. I hear he's pretty good.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, my score last year was negative 36. Now, anybody who watches golf sees negative 36 and says, wow, that's a great score.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But they're not realizing that it's a different.

[Dan Patrick]

It's a stable scoring system.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Scoring system's a little bit different.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Negative 36 means there was a lot of double bogeys out there. So the way I'm looking at it is I don't need to beat Aaron Rodgers, I don't need to beat Charles Barkley. I just need to beat Rob McElhenny, who was negative 36. So if I can beat Rob Mac, if Rob Mack can beat Rob McElhenney, then I'll feel good.

[Dan Patrick]

Is that the first third person use of your name?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. I mean, it's going to be insufferable.

[Dan Patrick]

Trust me.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm going to be in sub. No, I. I recognize how silly and ridiculous it is. And so even this morning, I saw on the X account, not the Twitter account, that you guys announced me as Rob McElhenny. And I laughed and thought, well, of course. Of course they did like it. It's going to be a process. And still, at the end of the day, there are bigger things going on in the world. Who really cares? And I just laughed and. And figured, this will be about the next.

[Dan Patrick]

I say Rob Mack, then people won't know that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, that's right.

[Dan Patrick]

But then you got to go Rob Mack, Robbie always Sonny Wrexham, you know, and then they get that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Luckily, my character's name on the thing I'm most known for is Mac, so that's very, very helpful. My grandfather's nickname was Mack. Everybody called him Mac. Up until all through high school, I was known as Mac. And then I stopped going by that because my character is such a horrific human on our show that I didn't want to go by that a. As a nickname. But now I'm taking it.

[Dan Patrick]

But. But how much fun is it to play a bad guy?

[Greg Rosenthal]

The best. It's the best I could.

[Dan Patrick]

You envision being like, you know, Jim Parsons with Big Bang Theory? Where everything is just, you know. You know, just kind of floating along.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. I. I don't know. I gravitate.

[Dan Patrick]

A good person.

[Greg Rosenthal]

A good person. Yeah. That's so boring. In fact, I'm. I'm making. I'm developing two separate shows right now, both completely different from. From Sunny. Not very much. Not different from. Tonally, from welcome to Wrexham, Just insofar as they're more dramatic ones. Both are crime dramas. One I play the good guy, and one I play the bad guy. So it's really fun to sit down and think of myself in. In. In. And sort of bifurcate the way I. I process the world.

[Dan Patrick]

Throwing out some big words today. I'm gonna.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I mean, I'm not doing it on purpose. They just sort of. They just sort of come to me. I told you, Dan. I'm inside. This is insufferable.

[Dan Patrick]

What is.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Can I curse on this?

[Dan Patrick]

What do you. Why do you need to curse?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, because I.

[Dan Patrick]

You can't. I F word. You can't F word.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But I sound like a you. Can I say that? Oh, yeah.

[Charles Barkley]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I can say it once. Okay.

[Charles Barkley]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm not trying, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

But it. Like, Ryan Reynolds can get away with this.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. He's such a nice.

[Dan Patrick]

Because he didn't change his name.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's right. He's such. Ryan can get away with pretty much anything because he's such a genuinely kind, nice person. But also, he's just so.

[Dan Patrick]

I think he could be a good actor too. He's a pretty good actor.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He's a pretty good actor.

[Dan Patrick]

Does your wife say he's hot?

[Greg Rosenthal]

She would say he is very attractive.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hot. The word hot. I would say she. She saved that.

[Dan Patrick]

But you don't.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts.

[Dan Patrick]

Hot.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hot.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Tom Hardy, the actor, I believe. Oh, look at this little guy.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. We got a camera and we got a little chip. Did somebody just say bifurcate? Came running out. So. Okay, we've established that Ryan is hot.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. But I. Well, Ryan's also 48 years old. I think it's the young professional athletes that the ladies are going for these days. Some of the actors.

[Dan Patrick]

Sure. Okay. All right. I think we've accomplished. Did we accomplish anything here?

[Greg Rosenthal]

I feel like we've exhausted the audience's desire to see me or hear me on the show. What do you think?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. Do you think that he's exhausted his.

[Greg Rosenthal]

My welcome? No, he.

[Dan Patrick]

He always questions it. Yeah. I think Rob Mack is welcome back anytime. Rob McElhenny. That's.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He's the guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. He's gone. Nobody likes him.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, see, right there, we. We bifurcated.

[Dan Patrick]

There it is. Thank you for stopping.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Thank you. I really. I'm a big fan. And you know what? I grew up watching you from the time I was a little kid, up, all the way up.

[Dan Patrick]

That's inspiring and crushing.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I. I said it to you, and I. And I meant it at the time, and I still mean it. And it's been. You have been a massive inspiration for me and, and for the way that we approach everything.

[Dan Patrick]

And I truly remember, well, when I went and met with you and I was pitching an idea and you were very enthusiastic. I mean, it obviously didn't work out.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Because you took it somewhere else. He had the choice. He took it somewhere else. That's that. We'll do that in a different episode.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I don't hold it against you. I know. I don't hold a Rob McElhenny.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, buddy.

[Greg Rosenthal]

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Summer's here and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle on Good Mom's Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her. Make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything to hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.