The Best of The Week on The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: "The Best of the Week"

Date: August 30, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
Featured Guests: Ben DiNucci (NFL Quarterback/Broadcaster), Mike McDaniel (Miami Dolphins Head Coach)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Best of The Week on The Dan Patrick Show" brings together insightful conversations with recently cut NFL quarterback Ben DiNucci and Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel, culminating with Dan Patrick’s signature wit and candor on the blockbuster Cowboys–Packers trade involving Micah Parsons. Bridging personal journeys, league dynamics, and major news, Dan provides listeners with insider perspectives and behind-the-scenes stories from the upper echelons of sports.

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Key Segments & Highlights

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1. Ben DiNucci: A Quarterback’s Journeyman Story

Segment Start: [02:10]

Life of a Perpetual NFL Underdog

• Coping with Getting Cut
  • DiNucci has now been released seven times in his career. When asked if he ever gets used to it, DiNucci replies:
    • “At this point, I’m used to it. I’m kind of numb to it… You just kind of get used to it.” – Ben DiNucci [05:11]
• Experience on Cut Down Day
  • Describes the stress and finality of the preseason for fringed roster players:
    • “The preseason is your Super Bowl… You get maybe a couple quarters a game to put on tape what you're going to do—not just for the team you’re on, but the 31 other teams. It's very stressful. It's guys' lives, livelihoods…” – Ben DiNucci [05:42]

Handling Releases and Looking Ahead

• How He’s Informed About Being Cut
  • “My phone rang from a New York number… ‘Coach wants to see you. Bring your iPad, bring your charger, bring your playbook.’ That’s kind of how it rolls.” – Ben DiNucci [06:26]
• What's Next: Between Football and Broadcast Booth
  • Currently not officially retired, but open to what’s next:
    • “The NFL is an interesting kind of animal… You get a phone call at any second. Could be today, tomorrow, could be in six months—could never be again.” – Ben DiNucci [07:07]
    • Prepping to call Air Force vs. Bucknell for CBS Sports Network.

NFL Memories & Reflections

• Drafted by the Cowboys from Jerry Jones’ Yacht
  • “I might be one of the only people in Cowboys history to say I got drafted from Jerry Jones’s yacht… It was that Covid year.” – Ben DiNucci [08:14]
• Differences: Practice Squad vs. Active Roster
  • “Honestly, nothing’s different except your weekly checks… Those guys on the practice squad, they’re a vital part of the team—getting the starters ready to play out there on Sundays.” – Ben DiNucci [09:17]
• His Defining NFL Moment
  • “It’d be hard not to say…my rookie year, when I got to start that game on Sunday Night Football for the Cowboys…It’s an iconic brand…That was my ‘welcome to the NFL’ moment.” – Ben DiNucci [10:14]

Personal Touches: Jerseys and Emotions

• Keeps jerseys from each stop—except the Bills.
  • “You steal, but they still deduct it from your paycheck… That might have been my last parting gift from the Falcons.”
  • “400 bucks… It was worth it. It’s game used.” – Ben DiNucci [12:08][12:17]
• Gratitude & Emotional Honesty
  • “I’ve cried a couple of times. I’m filled with a lot of gratitude at this point… To be able to be cut that many times, teams gotta like you enough to sign you in the first place.” – Ben DiNucci [12:44]
• On Not Swapping Jerseys with Dak, Russ, or Allen
  • “Honestly, no. That thought never even crossed my mind. But looking back now, I sure would like to have a couple of those jerseys…” – Ben DiNucci [13:33]

Memorable Moment:

• Dan gently teases Ben about being introduced as an NFL quarterback despite being freshly cut:
  • “I’m still going to introduce you as NFL quarterback.” – Dan Patrick [08:46]

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2. Mike McDaniel: The Art of Coaching & Adaptation

Segment Start: [19:57]

Playing Days and Coaching Philosophy

• Inside Receiver at Yale
  • “I was limited to inside receiver route tree because of lack of linear speed… I was quicker than fast, as they’d say.” – Mike McDaniel [20:41]
• Julian Edelman Comparison
  • “Were you Julian Edelman before Julian Edelman?” – Dan Patrick [20:30]
  • “Yes. In statement.” (jokingly) – Mike McDaniel [20:34]

Harnessing Player Talent

• Tyreek Hill and Offensive Adaptation

  • On what makes Tyreek Hill’s speed unique:
    • “He gets to top speed very quick… almost on the third step. The quickness and speed is hard to match.” – Mike McDaniel [21:12]
  • Offensive philosophy changes to fit skillsets, not force players into a mold. McDaniel traces the "adapt the offense to the player" trend back to the 2012 RGIII season with Shanahan in Washington, noting how that changed the whole Shanahan/McVay/LaFleur tree.
    • “You just hit on something super interesting because the whole tree… learned that in 2012 with RG3. We completely adapted… retooled it in Washington. For me and Kyle, we kept doing that everywhere we went.” – Mike McDaniel [23:30]

• Most Talented Quarterbacks He’s Worked With

  • “I would say Matt Ryan was up there, but I think Tua is probably the most talented quarterback… The most talented speed threat was probably Robert Griffin III.” – Mike McDaniel [25:09]

Pressure and Work-Life Boundaries

• On Feeling Pressure as a Head Coach
  • “You take a job like this… you’re very much aware of the reality of wins and losses… I know it exists, but I don’t feel it because it’s ingrained in what I understand this job to be.” – Mike McDaniel [26:27]
• Family Life and Emotional Balance
  • “My one and only daughter has really helped create some boundaries… I carry stuff through the car ride home, but when I get home… I try to leave it at work. Earlier in my career, I struggled to do that, but my daughter’s really helped me out with that one.” – Mike McDaniel [27:30]

Childhood Connections and Pop Culture

• His Autograph Collection and NFL Origin Story

  • Favorite autographs: "John Elway… Robert Del Pino one that led to me meeting my stepdad. That was probably the two best ones…” – Mike McDaniel [28:41]
  • The heartwarming story of becoming a Broncos ball boy because his stepdad, whom his mom met through a chance autograph incident at camp, worked for the team.

• On Not Knowing About Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift’s Engagement

  • “Oh, you just told me! I didn’t know. That’s my reaction.” – Mike McDaniel [31:26]
  • On being invited to player weddings:
    • “My expectation is that nobody wants to hang out with me ever. That, that I’m the boss of.” – Mike McDaniel [32:29]

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3. Dan Patrick on the Shocking Cowboys–Packers Trade: Micah Parsons

Segment Start: [37:06]

Critique of Dallas Cowboys’ Front Office Decisions

• The Parsons Trade: Questioning the Logic
  • Dan is openly critical of Dallas moving Micah Parsons to Green Bay “a week before the start of the season,” rather than in the spring for more value.
  • “If you know you’re open to dealing a 26-year-old pass rusher, maybe the best defensive player in the game, why wait until a week before the start of the season?” – Dan Patrick [38:23]
  • Draws a hard contrast to the Herschel Walker trade, emphasizing that legendary deals must yield franchise-changing value, which he argues Dallas failed to secure.

Front Office Dynamics, Legacy, and Future

• Wonders if Stephen Jones, not Jerry, architected the deal—with possible tensions about the elder Jones eventually "giving this team to his son."
• On the Cowboys’ Declining Odds After the Trade:
  • After moving Parsons, Dallas’ Super Bowl odds plummet, while Green Bay’s jump significantly:
    • “You can’t tell me the Cowboys are better today than they were yesterday.” – Dan Patrick [49:16]
• On Contract Negotiation Blunders:
  • Quotes Jerry discussing offering Parsons a new contract in April, then criticizes the lack of GM-like structure in Dallas for enabling poor decisions.
    • “If you have a GM, a true GM… you don’t get to this point. Indecisive in sports is death, and they were indecisive.” – Dan Patrick [49:16 and 41:48-49:16]

Broader Insights

• Stresses the importance of acting decisively with generational players (“If you truly believe that’s the guy, then act on it…”).
• Continues to hammer the point that the defense is worse, and all Dallas got is “a glimmer of God, what could have been.”

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Ben DiNucci, on being cut:
  “At this point, I’m used to it. I’m kind of numb to it… You just kind of get used to it.” [05:11]

• Mike McDaniel, on adapting offenses:
  “The whole tree… learned [to adapt to player skillsets] in 2012 with RG3. We completely adapted… everywhere we went.” [23:30]

• Dan Patrick, on the Cowboys trading Micah Parsons:
  “You can’t tell me the Cowboys are better today than they were yesterday.” [49:16]

• Ben DiNucci, on his defining NFL moment:
  “To be able to do that and say, I started a game for the Dallas Cowboys is something… that was my, ‘hey, welcome to the NFL’ moment.” [10:14]

• Mike McDaniel, on being invited to weddings:
  “My expectation is that nobody wants to hang out with me ever. That, that I’m the boss of.” [32:29]

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Listener Takeaways

• Resilience & Realism: DiNucci’s frank, resigned acceptance of NFL life at the margins—including the grind of practice squads and the gratitude for simply having the opportunity—offers insight for fans rarely exposed to the lower-rung player experience.
• Adaptation Is Survival: McDaniel’s entire coaching philosophy revolves around flexibility: adapting systems to players, not vice versa—a now-mainstream but once-radical concept.
• Front Office Follies: Dan Patrick’s breakdown of the Parsons trade is a primer on the risks of egotism, indecision, and lack of defined management in pro sports decision-making.
• Human Touch: From keeping game-worn jerseys to sharing stories of childhood and fatherhood, even big-league guests present refreshing humility and vulnerability.

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If you missed the episode:
This “best of” pulls together frank player reflections, creative coaching wisdom, and candid, sometimes scathing, national sports commentary. Whether you crave personal stories, tactical X’s and O’s, or hot-seat front office drama, it’s all here—served in Dan Patrick’s signature conversational, humor-laced style.

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[Ben Denucci]

About 3pm So I thought, I thought it was about. I thought it was good enough time to crack one open, so figured figured it was fine.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you ever get used to getting cut?

[Ben Denucci]

Honestly? Yeah. I mean, I was very fortunate the first couple years of my career to be. To be in Dallas and then the last Couple years, yeah. The last 12 or 12 or 18 months, I've been on three or four teams and it seems like every, every couple months you're, you're packing up, finding, finding a new place to play and, you know, going about your business. So yeah, I'd say at this point I'm, I'm used to it. I'm kind of numb to it. Not necessarily that it's a bad thing, it's. You just kind of get used to it.

[Dan Patrick]

How tense is cut down day for.

[Ben Denucci]

Me, the last, I mean, the last couple years it hasn't been very tense. I, I didn't see myself having any chance to, to make the roster, to make the practice squad. But it's, it's tough, right? I mean, you people don't realize for the guys that are trying to make this roster, the, any roster, the preseason is your, is your super bowl, right? Your playoffs. You get two or three games, you get maybe a coup, couple quarters a game to go put on tape what you're, what you're going to do, not only for the team you're on, but the 31 other teams. So it's, it's very stressed. I've got a few buddies who are still sitting around waiting this morning to see if, see if their phone rings or not and they'll go from there. But yeah, it's stressful. It's guys lives, livelihoods, it's their way of making money and it's, you know, what, what they do. So it's, it's very stressful.

[Dan Patrick]

How are you told?

[Ben Denucci]

My phone rang from a New York number that I didn't have in my phone and that's normally, you know, that's normally a number you don't ever want to see pop up on your phone. I answ. Hey, Ben, you know, coach wants to see you. Bring your iPad, bring your charger, bring your playbook. And that's kind of, kind of how it rolls. When you get into the facility, there's somebody waiting for you. They take you around, drop your iPad off, go see your coaches, go see, you know, whoever else you need to see. And then, you know, they buy you a flight and then you're at, next thing you know, you're drinking an airport beer.

[Dan Patrick]

So, okay, what do you do now? Like, at what point do you say now I, I know you're, you're going to do a football game. Coming up, Air Force and Bucknell and CBS Sports Network, but are you done trying out for NFL teams?

[Ben Denucci]

So, no, I don't think I'm officially done yet. Right? I mean, the NFL is an interesting kind of animal. You get a phone call at any second. Could be today, tomorrow, could be in six months.

[Dan Patrick]

Could.

[Ben Denucci]

Could never be again. So, yeah, the tough part guy for guys is, is staying in it. Right. Waking up every morning still doing what you've been doing the last couple years to make sure that, you know, if the phone rings, you know, you're. You're doing what you're supposed to do and ready to roll it if a team needs you. But at the same time, I've been in this situation a couple times the last couple years, and I don't necessarily want to be waiting around again all fall, just stressing myself out, watching NFL games on Sunday. So I'm excited to, to move on a little bit, progress the next chapter of my career outside of football, and looking forward to calling Bucknell versus Air Force this Saturday.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but if you get a call on Friday night by an NFL team, what happens to Saturday afternoon, Bucknell and Air Force?

[Ben Denucci]

I'll, I'll tell them, hey, I can't. I can't be anywhere until Sunday. And hopefully the response is what I expect.

[Dan Patrick]

7Th round Dr. By the Cowboys.

[Ben Denucci]

Correct.

[Dan Patrick]

What was that like when Jerry Jones called you to tell you he was drafting you?

[Ben Denucci]

Very cool. I think I might be one of the only people in Cowboys history to say that I got drafted from, from Jerry Jones's yacht. It was that Covid year, so they weren't, they weren't in their draft room in Dallas. I think Jerry was calling everybody from, from. From his yacht in the middle of the ocean somewhere and saw the phone ring. It was his assistant. He said, hey, you know, Ben, you know, Mr. Mr. Jones wants to talk to you. We've got the next pick. We're drafting you. And, you know, at that point, it was kind of like, all this is really cool. Everything that we worked for growing up, high school, college, it's kind of all come, all come first full circle and worth it. And this is kind of the moment that, that we've been waiting for.

[Dan Patrick]

Ben Denucci, NFL quarter. I'm still going to introduce you as NFL quarterback.

[Ben Denucci]

That's, that's fair. I'll take it. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Released for the seventh time in his pro career, and he'll be in the broadcasting booth. It'll be Bucknell and Air Force. That'll be at 3:30 Eastern this weekend for CBS Sports Network. Being on the practice squad as opposed to the active squad, what's the difference in how you're treated? Your Pay lifestyle.

[Ben Denucci]

Yeah. Honestly, nothing's different except the. Except your weekly checks that you're getting in every week. You know, everybody treats you the same way, right? I mean, there's 53 guys on the active roster, and there's 16 on the practice squad. And the reality of the NFL is that guys are going to get hurt over the course of the year. Right. Whether it's, you know, whatever position it is. And so those guys that are on the practice squad, they're. They're a vital part of the team. They're the guys that are getting the starters ready to go, to go, you know, play out there on Sundays. They have a vital, vital role in making these teams go. And so there's a reason that these teams put a lot of effort into. Into the practice squad just. Just like they do the active roster. So, yeah, it's really all the same. You're still traveling with the team, you're still. Still practicing, still part of meetings, the pay cuts a little bit, a little bit less, but at the end of the day, it's. It's. It's still great.

[Dan Patrick]

So. But can you. Can you leave it now? Like, if I say, what is your moment? You're going to tell your kids or grandkids where you. That's my NFL moment. What is it?

[Ben Denucci]

Yeah, I mean, it'd be. It'd be hard not to say. You know, my rookie year, when I got to start that game on Sunday Night Football against the Cowboys, I think that's a moment that everybody kind of grows up thinking, hey, I'd love to. I'd love to play in the NFL, let alone let it be for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Dan Patrick]

Right?

[Ben Denucci]

I mean, the stars just kind of this iconic brand, not only, you know, in the U.S. but, you know, overseas as well. So, yeah, it's. It's crazy that it just happened my first year. Some guys, it happens. Year 10, some it happens. Year 5, mine just happened to be. To be rookie year. And so to be able to do that and say, I started a game for the Dallas Cowboys is something that a lot of people can't. Can't say and stick their name to. So that was kind of my, hey, welcome to the NFL moment. And I think when. When it's all said and done, that'll be what I look back on and say, man, that was. That was pretty cool. I'm glad that. Glad that happened.

[Dan Patrick]

How nervous were you?

[Ben Denucci]

Well, honestly, I think I would have been a lot more nervous had there been 75,000 people in the stands like a normal year opposed to only 5 or 6,000 for Covid. So I honestly wasn't that nervous. Right. I think you're more nervous just kind of the week leading up the practice, the game plan, making sure, you know, the checks, everything is kind of. You're good mentally. And then when you get out there on the. On the day of the game, shoot, it's the same game I've been playing for the last 15 years. So when you step in inside the white lines, it's. It's go time. You got to shut everything else out and go play ball.

[Dan Patrick]

You get to keep your jerseys from all these stops. You do?

[Ben Denucci]

Yeah. You can see my Cowboys one up here. I grabbed. I grabbed my Falcons one last weekend, and I think I've got. The only. The only one I don't have is the Bills from last year during camp. So trying to. Trying to find a way to. To get that one. That's the last one I need.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you have to ask or do you steal?

[Ben Denucci]

Well, you steal, but they still. They still deduct it from your paycheck. You've got to kind of sign off on everything. The day after the games, when they're checking all the jerseys back in, they're like, all of a sudden, hey, Denucci's jersey's not here. Let's make he pays for this thing on his way out. So that might have been my last parting gift from the Falcons.

[Dan Patrick]

How much was it?

[Ben Denucci]

400 bucks? Yeah. So, I mean, I guess it depends who you ask. That's a lot of money.

[Dan Patrick]

Or not. So is it game used?

[Ben Denucci]

It's worth it. It was worth it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Ben Denucci]

It's game used. Yeah, it's the one I wore. The game took it right off. Took it right off my tags after the game and threw my. Through my bags.

[Dan Patrick]

Good luck with the broadcasting career and maybe the phone rings. But you got the opportunity, though, Ben. That's the key. And a lot of us never had it. You got it, and maybe you get that opportunity again, but it seemed like you're in good spirits. I don't know if you're masking something. Did you cry?

[Ben Denucci]

I've cried a couple of times. I'm at this point in my career where it's just. I'm filled with a lot of gratitude at this point. Right. To be able to be cut that many times, you've got to. You know, teams got to like you enough to sign you in the first place. Right. So it's been an unbelievable career. Got five good years, played on a bunch of different teams. Played for some, you know, head coaches that I grew up idolizing. You know, Coach McCarthy, Coach Payton, Coach McDermott in Buffalo. Played with a lot of guys, right? Dak, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, guys that, you know, I've had on my fantasy team for years growing up. And then all of a sudden you're sitting next to them in the, in the media room saying, how the hell. How the heck did I get here? So it's been really cool for me. Yeah. There's no reason to hang my head. I'm excited about the next chapter. And it's been. It's been a heck of a ride.

[Dan Patrick]

It might be awkward, and it might be awkward me even saying this, but did you ever try to swap jerseys with Dak or Russell Wilson or Josh Allen?

[Ben Denucci]

Honestly, no. That thought never even even crossed my mind. But looking back now, I sure would like to have a couple of. A couple of those jerseys to throw up next to mine in my, in my man cave, just to say, hey, my kids one day. Yeah, your dad was decent. He. He actually did play with these guys. He doesn't just have a bunch of random, random jerseys of himself hanging up on the wall.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for joining us. We appreciate being a good sport here, and good luck against with Bucknell and Air Force this weekend.

[Ben Denucci]

Thank you, Dan. Appreciate it. All the best.

[Dan Patrick]

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Learn [e-mail] might be a long weekend. Maybe it's full on vacation. It's prime time to get together with your buddies. Since 1975, Miller Lite is the perfect way to stock up your cooler when you're getting ready to get together with family and friends. Been doing that for decades now. Can't go wrong. So gather your crew and gather some Miller Light. It's Miller Time right now. It's a taste you can depend on. But right now has been happening for 50 years. Still iconic. The original light beer. 96 calories, just 3.2 grams of carbs for 12 ounces. Miller Time is always a great time. You get that great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick. You'll find delivery options near you. Or pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. In fact, I'd be shocked if they didn't sell Miller lite. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's time to gather your crew. It's Miller time. Mike McDaniel, fourth season as the Dolphins head coach and of course a star wide receiver with the Yale Bulldogs.

[Mike McDaniel]

Official height and weight coach, five nine and undisclosed.

[Dan Patrick]

Because at Yale you were five nine one seven five. But that feels like that might have been inflated a little bit.

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, it was actually closer to my true weight at that time. I was inflated. My body wasn't really built for that weight, but I was taking a lot of supplements at the time.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Legal supplements. Of course.

[Mike McDaniel]

Of course. Above brow. Of course.

[Dan Patrick]

Were you Julian Edelman before Julian Edelman?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yes. In statement.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Mike McDaniel]

No, I was limited to inside receiver route tree because of lack of linear speed.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Mike McDaniel]

And I was quicker than fast as they'd say. And I did a lot of coaching while playing, if you know what I mean.

[Dan Patrick]

How about 40 yard dash if you raised Tyreek Hill?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, he would get me. I just think about it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Is there anybody closer to him speed wise?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, there's. I think there's a lot of guys that are, that are, that are fast, particularly on our team. But I think what makes his speed unique is the acceleration. You know, he gets top speed very quick. He's almost top speed on the third step of a route when he's motioning. So the quickness and speed is hard to. Is hard to match. But there's several guys on the team that will with absolute certainty say that they're faster than him even though they don't have a time as fast as his.

[Dan Patrick]

But if you're calling plays knowing that he's so quick at like does it change if you're calling something? Let's say it's. It's third and seven. You just want to get him the ball because of that acceleration. Not he has to go out seven or eight yards.

[Mike McDaniel]

No, you know, quite literally one of the, the positives of being in the same offensive system for my entire career, you know, I came in 2005 learning Mike Shanahan's and have stayed with it is realistically the. What the offense is is a product of people's skill sets. So we do a lot of timing motion because we can utilize Tyreek and Waddle and etc at that. That their unique skill set. So pretty much, you know all, all players skill sets for us now in the system are you've kind of adapted to them and try to use their. Their best skills most frequently.

[Dan Patrick]

When did that change? It felt like when quarterbacks were drafted certainly in my era that you had to adapt to that coach and his philosophy where it feels like a cam Newton when he came in, it felt like Carolina says, hey, we're going to cater to your needs. I don't know if you remember since you were there with Shanahan in 05. Did you see something, a seismic shift where you're kind of adapting your audience or your, your offense to that quarterback you're taking?

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah, I think you just hit on something super interesting because the whole, the whole tree underneath. Kyle Shanahan Learned that in 2012 when we had a rookie RG3 at quarterback and we're going to jump into the, the game of zone Reed and realistically we completely adapted. You know, I was an offensive assistant, you know, Matt LaFleur was the quarterback coach. Sean McVeigh was the Titans coach. Kyle Shanahan was the offense coordinator. You know, Raheem Morris was the defense or secondary coach, Bobby Sloc was outside linebackers coach. All these people firsthand where we had our offense from what we ran in Houston and extension Denver and then retooled it in Washington and then for, for me personally and, and Kyle, we went, we got fired and then went to Cleveland and had a job and didn't want to get fired. So we tried to adapt to those players and then we did the same thing when we went to Atlanta. So it's really in the course of the journey early on we, we had the opportunity to you know, directly, you know, evolve the offense to cater to players needs and you know, I've kind of seen everything through that lens since.

[Dan Patrick]

Most talented quarterback you've ever been around.

[Mike McDaniel]

Talented at what?

[Dan Patrick]

The quarterback.

[Mike McDaniel]

Quarterbacking. You know, I would, I would say, you know, Matt Ryan was up there, but I think two is probably the, the most talented quarterback. The most talented speed threat was probably Robert Griffin iii. You know, so he, he was fast and before the defense schematically caught up to us, you know, he did his rookie of the year for a reason. Matt Ryan played the game in a unique way that really changed a lot of stuff that we do in the dropout game based upon how, how good he was. And then there was one of the best quarterbacks at play action pass that's super underrated was Matt Schaub. He was a, he was really good at utilizing Andre Johnson's speed and being able to avoid sacks while getting explosives.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Mike McDaniel, fourth season is the Dolphins head coach. You start out, you got Indy at Indy, then host New England at Buffalo and then host New York. How much pressure do you feel?

[Mike McDaniel]

I always think that's funny because I think I would have to be delusional to not, you know, expect. Yeah, I think you take a job like this and you. You're working in the NFL, and for me, I'm preparing to have this job, and then I take the job. And I'm very much aware of the black and white reality of, you know, wins and losses and, and how things. How you're able to, you know, sustain the job and keep the job and evolve. The program is all based on, you know, the nuts and bolts of winning and losing games. So I think everything that I do to prepare has always been to kind of be my best self in moments of pressure. And, yeah, I mean, I know it exists, but I don't feel it because it's kind of, you know, ingrained or attached to what I understand this job to be.

[Dan Patrick]

How much do you take home with you?

[Mike McDaniel]

You know, the. The gift of, you know, my one and only daughter has. Has really helped, you know, create some boundaries for myself. You know, I carry stuff through the. Through the car ride home, but when I get home, especially when you have a short, compressed time to be something that's a pillar of importance in who you are as a person, which is being a father. For me, I get the gift of being able to get home, see her face, engage her, and try to leave it at work, because you have to be balanced in life to have your edge at your performance, really, for whatever you're doing. So, you know, I think earlier in my career I struggled to do that, but my daughter's really helped me out with that one.

[Dan Patrick]

When you were growing up and you were getting those autographs when you go to the Broncos camp, do you still have those autographs?

[Mike McDaniel]

I do. In a trunk somewhere.

[Dan Patrick]

What are some of your favorite autographs that you got when you were a kid?

[Mike McDaniel]

I had a. I had a one sleeve of cards, like in the plastic, but it was a sleeve and a binder that kept all the autographs. And it was probably the John La page. I had about seven of them because I was a relentless, obsessed, daily visitor at Denver Bronfus training camp. So those are probably my favorite or, you know, the Robert Del Pino one that led to. To me meeting my. My stepdad. That was probably the two best ones that, that got me connected with Mike Shanahan in the first place.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so explain that, because wasn't it an assistant coach? Like, explain how your mom met her, your stepdad.

[Mike McDaniel]

Well, I mean, it's the. The normal nuclear family. A trajectory of a child introducing mother and stepfather, of course.

[Dan Patrick]

Happens all the time.

[Mike McDaniel]

Yeah. So I was getting autograph. Well, I would go to Denver Bronco training camp and, and get autographs daily. I had a Charlotte Hornets fitted, loud purple and teal hat. And it was noticeable. So I got Robert Del Pino's autograph. Earlier in the day, I wanted to get another one. As an only child, I guess I just wanted more. So I put the hat down, got the autograph, came back, the hat was gone. I was about 9 at the time, so I was crying. And a member of the Broncos was interested in why I was freaking out. I told him about the hat. He took down the measurements. A couple days later, he saw me again at training camp because I was automatic at Lawrence hall at the time. And he, he gave me a hat with a price tag on it. He went out to the Greeley Mall and bought me a hat. And so then I thought he was worthy of meeting my mother. So I introduced them and they, they got married and moved to Denver and was. As a result, he was a assistant video guy for, for the Broncos. And I got to. At age 14. I was a ball boy through high school and, you know, really got in the NFL door, you know, being able to be around the guys and stuff from, you know, before I could drive.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, speaking of love, your reaction to Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift getting engaged was what?

[Mike McDaniel]

Oh, you just told me. I didn't know. That's my reaction.

[Dan Patrick]

How. How do you not know?

[Mike McDaniel]

Well, you, you keep yourself from anything that's multimedia and then you make yourself a terrible conversation when people bring up pop culture and you do that over time and then you don't know anything that you, you know, I'm pumped to hear about it now, I guess. I'm sure, you know, I think there's layers to, to my reaction, you know, you know, I, I'm hoping it's a loved, love based relationship and, you know, and good for them, you know, finally, finally they're not. I mean, finally they're doing it the old fashioned way, you know, where people shouldn't really enter into any escapades unless they're married, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

So now if one of your guys gets engaged, do you expect to be invited to the wedding?

[Mike McDaniel]

No, I'm the boss, like, so I appreciate if I am, but my expectation is that nobody wants to hang out with me ever. That, that I'm the boss of.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you a buzzkill?

[Mike McDaniel]

No, it's just the nature of boss, you know, the nature of boss is like, all right, this isn't work. Why do I feel like it's work. Oh, because there's the guy that may or may not be judging me, you know, so I don't get my feelings hurt. I don't have high expectations for for that. Just understanding the role and responsibility.

[Dan Patrick]

Always great to catch up with you. Thanks for joining us. Good luck starting the season.

[Mike McDaniel]

Thank you very much.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Mike McDaniel four season is the Dolphins head coach. They were 89 last year and they open up at Indy, host New England at Buffalo and host New York. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor.

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Learn [e-mail] might be a long weekend. Maybe it's full on vacation. It's prime time to get together with your buddies. Since 1975, Miller Lite is the perfect way to stock up your cooler when you're getting ready to get together with family and friends. Been doing that for decades now. Can't go wrong. So gather your crew and gather some Miller Light. It's Miller Time right now. It's a taste you can depend on, but right now has been happening for 50 years. Still iconic. The original light beer. 96 calories, just 3.2 grams of carbs for 12 ounces. Miller Time is always a great time. You get that great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick. You'll find delivery options near you. Or pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. In fact, I'd be shocked if they didn't sell Miller lite. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's time to gather your crew. It's Miller Time. Stop me if you've heard this one before. Files brings us the Dallas Cowboys, who committed, in my opinion, organizational malpractice yesterday. And it's not just because they traded away Micah Parsons, it's how they traded him away. You get two first round picks. You get a former Pro bowl defensive lineman Kenny Clark from Green Bay. And Jerry Jones admitted that the team had been considering moving Parsons as early as the beginning of the off season. And I think that's where the misstep occurred. If you know you're open to dealing a 26 year old pass rusher, maybe the best defensive player in the game, why wait until a week before the start of the season if you're in March leading up to the draft? You know, everybody's got these draft picks. Maybe we could do something here. Cap room teams can maybe explore a trade with Micah Parsons. It just doesn't make any sense. If you're going to trade him, okay, then trade him back in March or April. If the, you know, the sticker shock was there and you didn't want to pay him, that you thought you had a handshake agreement, which is illegal in the NFL. Illegal. And Jerry thought, okay, we've agreed on a deal that's just over 40, $40 million, 40.5. Well, if you know these other defensive players who are of similar stature to Micah Parsons, TJ Watt and Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, maybe you know what the price is going to be and you know what's going on. You draft a guy, you want him to be great, you want him to be into that second contract. They were going to do that. He has been great. He's, he's, you know, his trajectory is hall of Fame. And I kept thinking, okay, I didn't think that Jerry would trade him. And then all of a sudden I did a little deeper dive and, you know, I had conversations that were off the record and I have to be true to those two conversations. But as soon as I got off the, you know, a phone call with one Source. And I called Paulie, and I go, I got information. I can't really do anything with this. I gotta be fair. But it gave me a little bit more of a backdrop. What had been going on, and was Micah Parsons truly liked in the building? Could Stephen Jones have been? Maybe his fingerprints are on this. Like, there was a lot of things that were swirling. I just want to kind of find out. Exactly. It doesn't help me advance the story, but at least I was trying to find out. But I was sworn, you know, this is off the record. This, you know, like. Like, everybody, four sentences. This is off the record. I go, it's off the record. But I wanted to understand how. How did we get to this point? Because Jerry, I thought would say, I got a quarterback that is a marquee quarterback. Whether you think he's great or not, you're paying him. You got a marquee wide receiver, and you got Micah Parsons. Now you got Diggs, too, who's been banged up the last two years. But you. You got guys at key positions, and that's what you want. And I thought, okay, this is gonna. It's gonna hurt. You overpaid for Dak. You needed to overpay for Micah Parsons, in my opinion. But somehow, through all of this, Jerry Jones yesterday, with a straight face, said that the team is actually better now.

[Sports Analyst]

This gives us a better chance to be a better team than we have been the last few several years since. Mike has not any negative on Micah. But we're trying to get better. We're trying to stop the run and stay in the hunt.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay? You're not better now, not today. And you have flexibility. Kenny Clark is a good defensive tackle, but his best years are behind him. He went to two Pro Bowls. Okay, yeah, we got to stop the run. You know, you got to stop the pass as well. You had one of the worst defenses. It's not just, hey, we're stopping the run, but, boy, they're putting up a lot of yards on us through the air. Micah Parsons is a game changer. He wrecks games. The only way you would be better is if Micah Parsons doesn't play for Green Bay. He's banged up or doesn't play well. What are the odds of a guy who's 26 with a big chip on his shoulder now? And you got to live up to that contract going to under produce. This reminds me of the Khalil Mack deal when the Bears acquired him. The Raiders got more from the Bears than the Cowboys got, you know, for Micah Parsons from Green Bay, you got two first, and then you got a couple other draft picks for, you know, Colomack and very similar, similar age, similar production. And I just, I, I kept thinking, you got to get more. I thought it was three first round picks. Juno, Jamal Adams was traded for three first round picks. That's a safety Seattle gave up. And you know, Seattle's got a great front office. They gave up three first round picks for Jamal Adams. You gotta get more. You gotta shop him. And you didn't do that. But is, is Jerry's ego in the way here? You know, everybody wants to make the Herschel Walker analogy. It's not. I mean, Jimmy Johnson was running the show. Jimmy Johnson orchestrated the value they were going to get for Herschel Walker. And it changed the franchise. This isn't changing the franchise because if I look at the average pick, draft pick, first round pick of the packers the last five drafts, so where they're going to finish, that's where the Cowboys are getting that draft pick. 23, 25, 28, 29. Now they did add the 15th pick. That was the Aaron Rodgers pick, swap with the Jets. But now you just added Micah Parsons to a team that could be an nfc, you know, title contender. And now they are. They're certainly. They're a Super bowl contender. And the odds. Packers were plus 2000 to win the Super Bowl. They're now plus 1200. They were plus 1100 to win the NFC. Now plus 600. Dallas plus 5000 to win the Super Bowl. They'm now plus 7000. They were plus 2200 to win the NFC. They're now plus 3000. You're not better. Now let's see what you do with the draft picks. But, you know, with the clock ticking, Jerry wanting to win another Super Bowl, Dax not getting any younger. 32, been banged up. You're paying him $60 million. I just didn't understand it. Now we'll talk to both sides. You know, we'll talk to reporters with the packers and the Cowboys and get their thoughts on, you know, tell me how that doesn't work out for the Packers. Tell me how this does work out for the Cowboys, because that's what this is all about. And I just didn't understand how Jerry put himself in this position. I didn't think he would trade him away. And I was wondering, was I more surprised that Luca got traded to the Lakers or Micah Parsons got traded to the Packers? And neither of these teams shopped their, their stars. Dallas talked to the Lakers, Dallas talked to the Packers. I'M sure other teams got in. Maybe. I haven't heard anybody said, hey, this team is offering this. But you, you keep him in the nfc, a team you're going to play in a month, a really good team. This is where you trade him to Carolina at Green Bay. This is why I'll never be a billionaire. You know, there's another reason why I won't be a billionaire. I can't think like Jerry does. Hey, great businessman. Okay, all right. Great businessman. You're the one who extended dak. You brought Zeke back again. You didn't get the true value for Michael. I mean, that's just recent. Here waited on cd, Lamb. It goes back to what we've said for months now. Act on it. If you truly believe that's the guy, then act on it. Because you knew if we get in at 40 and a half instead of 47, which is what Green Bay paid now, it's, you know, we save 7 million this year and then 7 million the following year, and 7 million. So this is a big, big whiff. And we said it from the beginning, right now, signing. Being indecisive in sports is death. And they were indecisive. If you. If you thought you were going to keep him, then sign him up. I don't know how well liked he was. I think he. He certainly had a lot to say. I'm going to choose my words carefully once again, but. And I wonder Steven Jones's role in this. You know, Jerry's going to be giving this team to his son at some point. And I wonder if Stephen Jones was maybe the architect. It's easy to, you know, blame Jerry. I can blame Jerry for the previous months, but you had to get to a point where. And there's no board of directors. Everybody, you know who's on the masthead, his name is Jones. Like, you just have a family outing and then you have to discuss. All right, what are we doing? They changed tradition here. And Jerry with his hand. Handshake nonsense, you know, about the team. And it was a handshake agreement. Okay, but you can't have handshake agreements that are binding with a player, and you don't allow to have an agent in there. Mind boggling. What else did Jerry have to say? Yeah, let's see. Oh, here. Here he is. There's Jerry talking about his offer to Micah Parsons back in April.

[Sports Analyst]

When I offered Micah the contract that I offered him back in April, he flew in from out of the country, wanted to come right in. I said, no, get you a Night's sleep and come on in the next day, get your next day. He wanted to come right in. We offered him a contract to come play for the Dallas Cowboys. And it was a good one. Okay? Now, it was more guaranteed than what I've been reported that was here now. But my point is, without getting into detail, that was a very genuine negotiation.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, get into detail, Jerry, Feel free. Now, you can let us behind the curtain here. I think if you have a gm, a true gm, who has power, you don't get to this point. I think that GM goes, you know what? This isn't about a handshake agreement. This is about an agreement. And, and there is a process to this. That's what's surprising. And I. You're not better today. And I just think if you had some kind of fiscal sanity attached to this, you could have kept him. If you wanted to, you could have kept him and I don't think it would have crushed you salary wise. And the cap keeps going up every year. He might turn out to be a bargain. Go back to when, you know, the, the Chiefs were signing Mahomes and I, it's a 10 year, 500 million dollar deal. I came in the next day and I said, they got a bargain. When Bryce Harper went to the Phillies, I said, the Phillies got a bargain there. There are certain contracts where you go do it, oh, man, it's going to hurt, but it's not going to hurt later. If you're buying what buy value, buy quality. And you've got two draft picks who don't help you this year. Kenny Clark better stop every running back. But it's a bad defense. I thought they could have competed. I thought that they could have competed and been a playoff team. I really did. Dak. Healthy CD Lamb. Micah is going to get paid now all of a sudden, you know Dallas is going to be formidable. Now, they would lose tragically in the postseason, of course, like they always do, but still, you had a chance to compete this year and you don't. Now you're going to get some wins and you know what it'll be? It'll be a glimmer of God, what could have been. But the only way, in my opinion, it doesn't work out is if Micah doesn't work out, because now you're going to get the 28th pick in the draft. Good luck. Kenny Clark better be great, Dak better be great. CD Lamb better have an unbelievable season. But you can't tell me the Cowboys are better today than they were yesterday. When the job site gets loud and deadlines get tighter. Your team needs a line of communication that won't quit. Rapid Radios keep crews connected on construction zones, in warehouses, or across campus grounds. No delays, just crisp, reliable talk with the push of a button, group chats, private calls, and a battery life that goes for five days even in the toughest conditions. From foreman to security to field staff, Rapid Radios get the job done. Clear communication built for work rapidradios.com when.

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